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President Vladimir Putin's appeal to the Russians: on support measures and a new tax scale

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Vladimir Putin once again addressed the nation. The treatment in one way or another is almost entirely devoted to the fight against coronavirus. The president said that the situation with COVID-19 has stabilized and thanked the medical staff and volunteers.


During the speech, Vladimir Putin touched on the topic of helping seriously ill children. According to him, many families are forced to raise funds for the treatment of children via the Internet.

Putin:

I thank everyone who responded to calls for help. But for such work, special funds are needed. And here it is impossible to do without regulation by the state.

Vladimir Putin proposed starting January 1 next year to increase personal income tax from 13 to 15 percent for those citizens whose annual income exceeds 5 million rubles. At the same time, a rate of 15% will apply precisely to the amount that exceeds the mentioned 5 million.

Putin:

I propose, as experts say, to “color” these funds. They will go to medical care for seriously ill children. For the purchase of expensive drugs.

According to the president, such a measure will allow receiving at least 60 billion rubles to the budget. Such money cannot be used for anything other than medical care for seriously ill children.

The President noted the difficulties in the economy and social spheres in connection with the pandemic. He said that in April, GDP fell by 12%.

Head of State:

It was a global recession. New reality.

Putin noted rising unemployment, problems in families with children.

But we, unlike many, managed to avoid a dramatic jump in unemployment.

Vladimir Putin noted that for families with children from birth to 16 years, 10 thousand rubles per child will be transferred again (plus the same amounts for which applications have already been submitted). The head of state noted that the Russians, who have already received 10 thousand rubles per child, do not need to submit a second application - the money will come automatically.

Putin instructed the government and the Central Bank to work out tools to restore the labor market by 2021.

The President proposed to extend and expand the program of preferential mortgages and preferential lending to businesses.

According to the head of state, these are unprecedented support measures that became possible due to the availability of reserves and the stability of the foundation of the Russian economy.

Putin also proposed reducing the tax rate for IT companies to 3%, which, according to him, is even lower than, for example, in Indian jurisdiction.

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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 23 June 2020 17: 40
    -1
    He took care of what he attached the pens to! I got a flicker on the box.
    1. Vrungeli
      Vrungeli 23 June 2020 17: 48
      24
      All these are trifles .. In Russia, something needs to be radically changed! We’re treading water or, as they say, a step forward, two backward .. I hope the authorities understand this, that the patience of the people is at the limit .. Russia needs to be cleaned, that’s what the people are waiting for!
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 23 June 2020 17: 53
        37
        Quote: Vrungeli
        You need to clean Russia, that's what the people are waiting for!

        Mikhan, you are a golden man, do not take care of yourself, you think all about Russia.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 23 June 2020 18: 23
          -2
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Mikhan, you are a golden man, do not take care of yourself, you think all about Russia.

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            1. mdsr
              mdsr 23 June 2020 21: 45
              30
              Nothing, after the vote, he will present to us SUCH an account for these miserable filings that we will all start with you, as after a pension robbery. It would be better if he choked on his handouts and dumped already from the Kremlin, along with all his homies and with his slop from the bucket.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 23 June 2020 23: 54
                -15 qualifying.
                He will knock over and other sidekicks will come in his place - so you can not rejoice at his departure.
              2. businessv
                businessv 24 June 2020 14: 58
                +2
                Quote: mdsr
                he had already fallen from the Kremlin, along with all his homies and with his slop from the bucket.
                Here are the homies, I think, we all will have to pick out for a long time, before putting the country in order!
              3. Odessa Greek
                Odessa Greek 25 June 2020 10: 19
                -3
                You registered on June 17, 2020 already 10 posts and all about Putin the villain))), are you at the bot-work or just from Lehi’s big top?)))) What did you get the task to stoke against the referendum?)))
            2. Revival
              Revival 24 June 2020 00: 12
              +5
              Today, more precisely, I still took part in the VCIOM survey yesterday, spent 15 minutes, bypass the sharp language, I understand the methodology, we are waiting for publication
            3. Far B
              Far B 24 June 2020 00: 25
              22
              About gigantic progressive taxes for the rich (as much as two percent more than any other, as if they didn't die of hunger, poor fellows), rumors have been crawling for a couple of weeks. But "sources close to the president" confidently denied these rumors. And then once - and just before the vote, the sun-faced himself proposed. Pure coincidence, not otherwise. Well, you don’t think, in fact, that they specially kept this information. How can you think about them like that ?! People of crystal honesty.
              1. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 24 June 2020 17: 15
                +3
                We have 40 percent of the rich pay, the workers 15, the poor -0.
            4. sleeve
              sleeve 24 June 2020 04: 50
              +1
              Come on, burn with a verb! That's quirky, right? I found someone to help!
            5. Rubi0
              Rubi0 24 June 2020 10: 34
              -7
              I suggest you refuse all the goodies and pensions in protest, transfer money to children in boarding schools and put checks here on the forum.
        2. Vrungeli
          Vrungeli 23 June 2020 18: 32
          +1
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Quote: Vrungeli
          You need to clean Russia, that's what the people are waiting for!

          Mikhan, you are a golden man, do not take care of yourself, you think all about Russia.

          Well, how are you here without me .. Absolutely unbelted))) It seems that you are in the enemy rear .. bully
          It’s difficult to squeeze me out .. While the heart is beating, I’ll drive all linguistic trash here ..
          Tomorrow Victory Parade! Strength needs to be protected, such a howl will start jackals .. soldier
          1. private person
            private person 23 June 2020 19: 19
            +5
            Tomorrow Victory Parade! Strength needs to be protected, such a howl will start jackals ..

            And where is the crown XE-XE?
            1. Vrungeli
              Vrungeli 23 June 2020 20: 02
              +3
              Quote: private person
              Tomorrow Victory Parade! Strength needs to be protected, such a howl will start jackals ..

              And where is the crown XE-XE?

              Remember .. hi ? heh heh is no longer necessary .. Then it's time oh ho ho ho scream and wave his sword right and left .... That's how the USSR collapsed, but then there was no Internet ..

              Again, the spiral must begin historical ..?
              1. snake
                snake 23 June 2020 21: 16
                +2
                Quote: Vrungeli
                Again, the spiral must begin historical ..?

                What does it mean to start again? Remember Mikhan Vitalich:
                The revolution has a beginning
                There is no end to the revolution!
            2. Van 16
              Van 16 23 June 2020 23: 43
              +2
              "HEH"
              Sorry, I understand that you are Meehan's trademark, but now it's not about that, I just remembered - "Hee-hee-ha-ha-ho-ho, where it smells of gold, it also smells of lead."
              It’s without politics, it’s from Joaquin Murieta of the old, Soviet rock opera Rybnikov, I just remembered.
          2. Revival
            Revival 24 June 2020 00: 15
            15
            THAT Victory Parade was once! June 24, 1945! It was those who got them who passed and threw banners in it!
            He is unique!
            Great people!
            Great day!
            Now there are no, sorry, time ...
          3. sleeve
            sleeve 24 June 2020 04: 52
            0
            Russia is cleared. There is experience. Just about this and all thoughts. Especially after these 60 billion. Directly specifically drawn to cleanliness. Why?
      2. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 23 June 2020 18: 00
        +3
        that the patience of the people is at the limit ..

        With what ... is it at the limit? Live ... Make plans and implement. All that you are at the limit ... Fedor's chest is burning because the president is speaking on television. Already can not eat. You are on the limit.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 25
          -33 qualifying.
          That is why there are so many starving people in Russia - Putin gets up throat, especially speaking on TV.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 23 June 2020 19: 39
            45
            Quote: Vadim237
            That is why there are so many starving people in Russia - Putin gets up throat, especially speaking on TV.

            so he is responsible for everything request
            1. The comment was deleted.
              1. 76rtbr
                76rtbr 24 June 2020 01: 24
                11
                and you are probably one of those admirers that they look into his mouth as if they had arranged meetings, at factories, at fishing trips, at hospitals, and so on.
            2. cradle
              cradle 24 June 2020 05: 32
              -4
              Cho, I just told you so? Wow! Here you are cool!
          2. mark2
            mark2 23 June 2020 23: 13
            0
            good class. Respect and respect.
          3. Revival
            Revival 24 June 2020 00: 19
            0
            Oh, Vadim, Vadim, well, why was that
          4. sleeve
            sleeve 24 June 2020 04: 53
            +1
            Well, what no diet yet ...
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 23 June 2020 18: 26
          -18 qualifying.
          There are a lot of people who don’t do everything badly, because personally the state didn’t put him on a full board and didn’t give everything for free.
          Already 5 years they have been whining that everything was khan, they all died of starvation, there was no industry, the agricultural sector was bent and all the money was stolen from everyone.
          This is either paranoia, or insanity, well, or paid.
          1. for
            for 23 June 2020 20: 09
            +5
            Quote: K-612-O
            For 5 years they have been whining that everything was Khan, everyone died of hunger, there is no industry, agricultural bent and all the money was stolen from everyone

            The other day I bought dirty 200l barrels I thought what kind of chemistry was there, it turned out to be a food soy supplement.
            1. Yarik
              Yarik 23 June 2020 21: 35
              20
              20 years ago, in the Krasnodar Territory, the number of cattle exceeded 600 thousand heads, and now 60 thousand are not. Therefore, soya appeared in barrels from China.
              1. Tatyana Pershina
                Tatyana Pershina 24 June 2020 19: 32
                -2
                Why lie? You think that you can’t check?
                Here are the data for 2017 "At the end of July, the number of cattle in the farms of the Krasnodar Territory, according to the calculations of experts, amounted to 538 thousand heads, according to the materials of Krasnodarstat."
                Read more at © DairyNews.ru https://www.dairynews.ru/news/pogolove-krupnogo-rogatogo-skota-v-krasnodarskom-k.html
                1. Yarik
                  Yarik 2 July 2020 13: 07
                  0
                  You are lying, dear. 538 thousand goals is the figure of the whole country and not the Red Kr.
                  1. Tatyana Pershina
                    Tatyana Pershina 2 July 2020 21: 24
                    0
                    The source of information in the studio. I told you the source.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 23 June 2020 20: 16
            0
            Or maybe compare? Well, at least privately?
          3. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 23 June 2020 20: 21
            26
            Well, you, everything is not so bad with the industry, there is still something to close.
            Right now they are closing the oldest trolleybus manufacturing plant in the Saratov Region, the first to start producing trolleybuses in our country.
            And now it's closed. What is not the success of liberal Putin?
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 23 June 2020 20: 37
              -15 qualifying.
              Quote: Beringovsky
              Right now they are closing the oldest trolleybus manufacturing plant in the Saratov Region, the first to start producing trolleybuses in our country.
              And now it's closed.

              And what else to do with it if in 2019 the plant manufactured 3 trolley buses? No need for steel in the world of trolleybuses of the oldest plant. But they didn’t want to do pans, obviously ....
              1. Beringovsky
                Beringovsky 23 June 2020 21: 36
                29
                Why should a trolleybus manufacturing company make pans?
                Apparently they did not find such a talented manager as Putin, with unconventional thinking. After all, he can easily put a journalist to rule the space industry. He would have thought of the pans, the genius, figs there ...
                By the way, in recent years, the company produced modern trolleybuses with dynamic recharging and with autonomous running, as well as electric buses.
                But why do we need electric buses in cities, right? They wanted to breathe clean air? What else, but what to do with oil? What then will Sechin grumble?
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 23 June 2020 21: 46
                  -7
                  Quote: Beringovsky
                  He would have thought of the pans, the genius, figs there ...

                  Actually, Trolza CJSC. And what about Putin? The company has founders and shareholders. There is a business policy. Well, the plant could not receive orders for its products. Other manufacturers appeared on the electric transport market and scooped up Trolles. What is so surprising?
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 23: 08
                    15
                    Quote: Hagen
                    And what about Putin?

                    And he always has nothing to do with it. Do you need him like that?
                    1. Hagen
                      Hagen 26 June 2020 11: 42
                      -1
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      And he always has nothing to do with it. Do you need him like that?

                      Obviously, you need a president who would take out the night pot from under you, otherwise you are not able .....
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 26 June 2020 18: 44
                        -2
                        Quote: Hagen
                        Obviously, you need a president who would take out the night pot from under you, otherwise you are not able .....

                        Have you thought for a long time?
                  2. Snarkxnumx
                    Snarkxnumx 24 June 2020 09: 18
                    +5
                    "Well, the plant could not receive orders for its products. On the market."
                    Do not make people laugh on the site
                    Our market is the environment of Soncelikogo. There they build roads and bridges, pipe factories make pipes in three shifts for all flows. Yes, they have a "correct" business model, while others do not.
                2. your1970
                  your1970 25 June 2020 09: 18
                  -1
                  The cost of 1 (!!!!) trolleybus is 60 million ....... Many cities can buy at least 20-30 pieces ?????
              2. Grits
                Grits 23 June 2020 23: 20
                12
                Quote: Hagen
                And what else to do with it if in 2019 the plant manufactured 3 trolley buses? No need for steel in the world of trolleybuses of the oldest plant.

                It seems that no trolleybuses have become needed at all. And the trams. Take, for example, the hometown of Vladivostok. Second-hand Korean buses turned out to be simpler and cheaper than city electric vehicles. Therefore, almost all the rails of tram lines built during the Soviet era uprooted about Vladivostok. They began to interfere with the passage of a huge amount of Japanese car trash, rushing to the Far East in the 90s. Then came the turn of trolleybuses. And no talk about the cost-effectiveness and environmental friendliness of electric vehicles will not save the situation - the flywheel has already started and everything has collapsed.
                And if the situation is similar in all cities, then to whom will the company sell trolleybuses? Perhaps, over time, the benefits of trolleybuses will again be appreciated. But then we will buy them already. Somewhere with neighboring China. Which will very quickly respond to market demands and build such a plant in half a year.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 02
                  -17 qualifying.
                  Nobody needs trolley buses, now the same KAMAZ Euro 6 buses and trams are releasing electric buses, and no office in Moscow already has trolley buses and they will be removed in all other cities.
                  1. CT-55_11-9009
                    CT-55_11-9009 24 June 2020 14: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    trolleybuses are no longer in Moscow, and they will be removed in all other cities.

                    Why ?! But for the lack of trolleybuses in Moscow, do you want to answer? And in other cities with which horseradish (such a plant) will be canceled? They will try in Cheboksary - they will get a collapse. Here, about a quarter of the people transport trolleybuses.
                2. Tomich3
                  Tomich3 24 June 2020 09: 54
                  +6
                  If you do not demand anything from the local authorities, then this will continue. Tomsk residents constantly keep the authorities in good shape with massive complaints, pickets, etc. In June, 83 new domestic buses were purchased, before that several dozen trams. For the second year in a row since the collapse of the USSR, tram tracks are being repaired, local businessmen are taking on the restoration of architectural objects under the program "rent for a ruble. Local officials are forced to sit on local news sites, even in the local auto public, where the news about another pit on the road to It takes a maximum of a day to eliminate it. ”Recently there was a scandal with the felling of trees during the landscaping, after which the mayor's office bought 5 times more trees than planned.If you keep silently observing, it will continue.
                3. Alf
                  Alf 24 June 2020 13: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: Gritsa
                  It seems that no trolleybuses have become needed at all.

            2. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 20: 36
              0
              It is not closed, it goes under the wing of the State Enterprise "Transport Systems" Will fulfill the order of St. Petersburg Electrotrans for 80 trolleybuses.
          4. Vrungeli
            Vrungeli 23 June 2020 21: 05
            -13 qualifying.
            Quote: K-612-O
            Already 5 years they have been whining that everything was khan, they all died of starvation, there was no industry, the agricultural sector was bent and all the money was stolen from everyone.
            This is either paranoia, or insanity, well, or paid.

            In terms of time, it’s just clear who is aching according to the manuals .. Andrey, well, they noticed)))
            Well, tomorrow will be going on here .. mom do not cry! Now they will begin to clean ..
            And then here’s the ancient technique, and so forth, so forth, so forth, and as a result, again down with Russia, etc. We’ll hear enough and read tomorrow ..
          5. Svarog
            Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 28
            11
            Quote: K-612-O
            Already 5 years they have been whining that everything was khan, they all died of starvation, there was no industry, the agricultural sector was bent and all the money was stolen from everyone.

            What's getting better? Give examples, where we have a "breakthrough", from year to year it only gets worse.
            1. notingem
              notingem 24 June 2020 09: 49
              +4
              Pipe breaks regularly. And according to statistics, a lot of breakthroughs
          6. mark2
            mark2 23 June 2020 23: 14
            +2
            This is either paranoia, or insanity, well, or paid.

            This is Russian liberalism. Which is basically the same diagnosis.
          7. sleeve
            sleeve 24 June 2020 04: 53
            +3
            5 years? Something is not enough.
          8. cradle
            cradle 24 June 2020 05: 34
            -3
            the last ... and even if not paid, then just scum. wassat
            1. Snarkxnumx
              Snarkxnumx 24 June 2020 13: 18
              +1
              "just bastards- Said the demon. Don't hang labels. It doesn't paint you.
        3. Vrungeli
          Vrungeli 23 June 2020 18: 35
          -15 qualifying.
          Quote: Interlocutor
          With what ... is it at the limit? Live ... Make plans and implement

          Yes, here's how you read and the hand immediately looks for a checker with a Mauser ... wassat
          Well, the talkers here gathered in gangs and so painfully spit in the soul .. Eh
          1. snake
            snake 23 June 2020 21: 21
            11
            Quote: Vrungeli
            Yes, here's how you read and the hand immediately looks for a checker with a Mauser ...

            ... And stumbles upon a bottle of vodka ... And-ehhh ... life-tin ...
            1. cradle
              cradle 24 June 2020 05: 34
              +1
              mind- warm
        4. Malyuta
          Malyuta 23 June 2020 18: 40
          +1
          Quote: Interlocutor
          Make plans and implement. All that you are at the limit ... Fedor won’t burn his chest from the fact that the president is speaking on television. Already can not eat.

          And why did you decide that a "handout" of $ 300 per child for 4 months of quarantine is cool? Taking into account the fact that under Putinism, child allowances were 50-70 rubles a month.
          Wofka wants to buy our votes, no, he won’t!
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 23 June 2020 20: 58
            -9
            So vote against, who gets in the way? And in order not to give birth, I need to give birth more, I finally get 80 thousand. 2/3 of my salary, my wife’s taxes were also canceled.
            That's right they said plans to build and work were needed, and not whine.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 23: 20
              16
              Quote: K-612-O
              So vote against, who gets in the way? And in order not to give birth, I need to give birth more, I finally get 80 thousand. 2/3 of my salary, my wife’s taxes were also canceled.
              That's right they said plans to build and work were needed, and not whine.

              And in what region do you live, I hesitate to ask? I, in the Krasnodar Territory, with 5 children, the state does not shower with such a "golden rain", and asks for taxes and payment for housing and communal services, very persistently.
            2. sleeve
              sleeve 24 June 2020 04: 55
              -4
              Golden words!
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 23: 14
            +7
            Quote: Malyuta
            Given the fact that under Putinism, children's allowances were 50-70 rubles a month.

            A little more, from 7 to 16 years, about 180 p. But the essence of this does not change.
        5. sg7s
          sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 33
          +6
          Are you definitely from Russia? (a mask does not need to be dragged into court ...) One historical fact - When Khrushchev was brought up with plans for the development of the Muskva, they voiced the complaints of the Muscovites that the rooms for the SERVANT were not thought out ... (I was living with my family as a kid in a shed with earthen floors , in Volgograd) AT THE LIMIT, not the right word ..... Listen to the obscene stream of my friends, a year since 2007 with foam at the mouth praising Putin ...
          1. Grits
            Grits 23 June 2020 23: 25
            +2
            Quote: sg7s
            Are you definitely from Russia? (a mask does not need to be dragged into court ...) One historical fact - When Khrushchev was brought up with plans for the development of the Muskva, they voiced the complaints of the Muscovites that the rooms for the SERVANT were not thought out ... (I was living with my family as a kid in a shed with earthen floors , in Volgograd) AT THE LIMIT, not the right word ..... Listen to the obscene stream of my friends, a year since 2007 with foam at the mouth praising Putin ...

            And where is the obscene stream against Khrushchev?
            1. sg7s
              sg7s 24 June 2020 17: 00
              +1
              "obscene stream" - why? Yes, as a member of the Military Council - no one, as a farmer - is rather weak, but everything can be forgiven for him (although our brother aviator is against) for the sake of promoting rocket technology (even to the detriment of aviation) .... We live on those developments (how long? ..)
      3. Klingon
        Klingon 23 June 2020 20: 05
        10
        Nichrome power does not understand, the government is only worried about its fifth point, and it's just handouts from the gentleman’s shoulder
        1. sleeve
          sleeve 24 June 2020 04: 56
          -3
          Wow how sharp! Wow, right ...
      4. helmi8
        helmi8 23 June 2020 21: 34
        +9
        Quote: Vrungeli
        In Russia, you need to radically change something!

        First you need the Law to be the Law FOR ALL, regardless of the position. And if you give orders - there must be total control over the execution. The slightest flaw, and managers to remove without the right to recovery. Hard. But, oddly enough, efficiently. Maybe then something will begin to change for the better.
        1. Grits
          Grits 23 June 2020 23: 28
          -7
          Quote: helmi8
          First you need the Law to be the Law FOR ALL, regardless of the position. And if you give orders - there must be total control over the execution. The slightest flaw, and managers to remove without the right to recovery. Hard. But, oddly enough, efficiently. Maybe then something will start to change for the better.

          Will not be. In the place of the old leader another will come. So dumb. And you can change them at least every day, until all the leaders of the country are over. The economy will not work from this.
          1. Alf
            Alf 24 June 2020 13: 31
            0
            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote: helmi8
            First you need the Law to be the Law FOR ALL, regardless of the position. And if you give orders - there must be total control over the execution. The slightest flaw, and managers to remove without the right to recovery. Hard. But, oddly enough, efficiently. Maybe then something will start to change for the better.

            Will not be. In the place of the old leader another will come. So dumb. And you can change them at least every day, until all the leaders of the country are over. The economy will not work from this.

            But how then to raise the economy?
            1. Grits
              Grits 24 June 2020 15: 00
              0
              Quote: Alf
              But how then to raise the economy?

              First, turn to the experience of the Chinese
              1. Alf
                Alf 24 June 2020 17: 29
                +2
                Quote: Gritsa
                Quote: Alf
                But how then to raise the economy?

                First, turn to the experience of the Chinese

                Which one? Toward the nationalization of all strategic industries? Or to universal ideology? Or do you think that the leaders of the PRC are holding unmanaged posts? And where in the PRC do bribe takers and embezzlers?
      5. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 23 June 2020 21: 50
        -2
        In order not to stomp one place, it’s time to speak out about the IMF, and tell them arivederi ...
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 23 June 2020 18: 00
      28
      “We didn’t have a jump in unemployment growth!” Is he talking about the Kremlin? For the country's economy just fell! And the rise in prices only testifies to the fact that the authorities simply ignore this rise in prices!
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 18
        -7
        List with examples of a sharp jump in prices, for what, where?
        1. ximkim
          ximkim 23 June 2020 18: 30
          13
          It rises in price from July XNUMX.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 June 2020 19: 06
            -10 qualifying.
            Quote: ximkim
            It rises in price from July XNUMX.

            Housing and communal services every year since July 1 rises in price. 20 cents is a sharp increase? Now even these coins can not be found.
            1. private person
              private person 23 June 2020 19: 24
              15
              Housing and communal services every year since July 1 rises in price. 20 cents is a sharp increase?

              If this is growth in general, then it is miserable, and if the price for 1 kW is already significant, after all, a rise in price of one kind affects the whole machine. Is not it so?
            2. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 23 June 2020 20: 26
              +7
              Quote: Piramidon
              Housing and communal services every year since July 1 rises in price. 20 cents is a sharp increase? Now even these coins can not be found.

              In my hands I spin the Soviet 3 kopecks, 1961. It was the fare on a tram or a glass of soda pop with syrup. How many hundred times has the passage increased now since 1991? I will not say anything about the cost of housing and communal services regarding salaries. wink
            3. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 23 June 2020 20: 34
              +4
              Quote: Piramidon
              20 cents is a sharp increase?

              Hrenatsak kopecks. With us, only garbage collection has risen in price by 600 rubles
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 24 June 2020 08: 37
                -4
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                With us, only garbage collection has risen in price by 600 rubles

                Nonsense! Some garbage. fool Where are the prices? Do you have garbage in Lexus cars taken out or do you have a lot of people living in your apartment? How much then turned out in the total amount, if only the price increased by 600? I am now paying 344 rubles with kopecks (tariff 114 rubles per person).
                1. Tatyana Pershina
                  Tatyana Pershina 24 June 2020 20: 11
                  0
                  Our garbage collection was 88,62 per person, and since 2020 it has become 59, 88. Novosibirsk.
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 24 June 2020 21: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Tatyana Pershina
                    Our garbage collection was 88,62 per person, and since 2020 it has become 59, 88. Novosibirsk.

                    In Vologda, too, since January 2020, the fee has decreased from 123 to 114 rubles. per person. So at the expense of an increase of 600 rubles. Comrade "Mordvin" clearly exaggerated.
                  2. zhora
                    zhora 25 June 2020 09: 56
                    0
                    would be ashamed to deceive, here, after all, there are people from Novosibirsk too, or can you call an operator, an agreement with such a tariff?
                    1. Tatyana Pershina
                      Tatyana Pershina 25 June 2020 11: 16
                      -1
                      operator of LLC "Ecology-Novosibirsk". I have a private house in Berdsk.
            4. cradle
              cradle 24 June 2020 05: 38
              0
              the same fso disappeared!
            5. ximkim
              ximkim 24 June 2020 13: 57
              +2
              Quote: Piramidon
              Quote: ximkim
              It rises in price from July XNUMX.

              Housing and communal services every year since July 1 rises in price. 20 cents is a sharp increase? Now even these coins can not be found.

              A penny saves the ruble. Most consumers go beyond the social norms, and above the social norms this is the difference in rubles. The key word is growth, the rise in price of electricity leads to an automatic increase in prices in: rubles, euros, and the dollar.
          2. cradle
            cradle 24 June 2020 05: 38
            +3
            how much? And did housing and communal services rise in price annually in the summer by a percentage of inflation? Huh?
        2. Thrifty
          Thrifty 23 June 2020 18: 31
          18
          Andrey VOV -All prices have risen! First of all, of course, on food! Or, you do not live in Russia? Not from officials, an hour, since you ask such questions?
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 34
            +4
            I live in Russia, a respected one, and I worked the whole pandemic, because there was preparation for the sowing, then sowing .... but it has risen in price, yes, but not sharply, let's be objective,
            1. Nehist
              Nehist 23 June 2020 19: 35
              17
              I also respected, I work and work in a group of companies that the region provides meat with products, so I can say that the selling price has already risen three times in the last 4 months, the average price increase was 10%. Now add the percentage that retail sales will add up to the consumer growth will be all 30%
              1. mark2
                mark2 23 June 2020 23: 28
                0
                You are cunning something young man, last year I bought beef at 450 and this year I buy 450 at the market. And the value of your meat products is growing because either the soybean is getting more expensive from which you make meat products, or your owners are greedy.
                By the way, I don’t eat meat products, I’m already feeling sorry for my health, so the sausage is not well informed.
                1. Nehist
                  Nehist 24 June 2020 07: 05
                  +1
                  not a word about sausage! I wrote about meat, the pork neck 386r per kg in retail chains, it already costs 530r
                  1. Andrey VOV
                    Andrey VOV 24 June 2020 07: 22
                    +1
                    And you forgive what region you live and work in? Yesterday in the store beef tenderloin 560, pork neck 239 per kg
                    1. Nehist
                      Nehist 24 June 2020 07: 23
                      +2
                      Sakhalin island. Sakhalin Region Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk
                      1. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 24 June 2020 07: 39
                        +2
                        And, well then, yes, you would immediately clarify that, among other things, you have, of course, freakish logistics, eats a lot
                  2. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 24 June 2020 08: 48
                    0
                    Quote: Nehist
                    not a word about sausage! I wrote about meat, the pork neck 386r per kg in retail chains, it already costs 530r

                    Yesterday I bought pork. Ham - 240 rub, neck - 260 rub, tenderloin - 290 rub.
                    1. Nehist
                      Nehist 24 June 2020 09: 44
                      +2
                      Not really bought in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk? Tell me where I will buy too
                      1. Piramidon
                        Piramidon 24 June 2020 11: 41
                        -3
                        Quote: Nehist
                        Not really bought in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk? Tell me where I will buy too

                        Come to Vologda and buy. hi Well, our country is big. Somewhere on Earth Franz Joseph will be even more expensive.
          2. codetalker
            codetalker 23 June 2020 18: 48
            0
            I also didn’t notice a sharp jump in food prices ... I visit the store almost every day
          3. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 19: 20
            -7
            Strongly grown?
          4. cradle
            cradle 24 June 2020 05: 40
            -1
            answer specifically: what and how much? It is desirable in percentage and the question will be settled.
        3. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 18: 42
          23
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          List with examples of a sharp jump in prices, for what, where?

          buckwheat from 45 to 70 for 700g
          pasta with 35 rubles. up to 48 rubles for 1 kg. (Peter's fields by weight)
          tea for 10-30 rubles per pack
          sugar from 17 rubles to 30 rubles per kg
          canned goods from 5 to 10 rubles per piece
          rice with 45 rubles. up to 75 rub. per kg
          millet with 25 rubles. up to 45 rubles per kg
          Enough or go through the entire assortment of the store? Who goes to the store for you? Or is there a question in the Zaputin training manual?
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 44
            -3
            I myself go to the store, at five, we have no other people where I live, but you shouldn’t be rude, have you agreed?
          2. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 46
            -2
            Again, the price increase depends on the greed of the merchant, producer, and only then on other factors, our trade is not state-owned, it’s always geared up for growth in any situation ...... ginger when some kind of space cost that the Kremlin is to blame too ? or Trump or Pinochet?
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 23 June 2020 18: 52
              -2
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              Ginger when some kind of cosmos was worth, is it also the Kremlin to blame?

              Nah, he’s not to blame for anything, it just happened am
            2. AA17
              AA17 23 June 2020 22: 04
              +7
              Dear Andrey VOV. "... that the Kremlin is also to blame? ..." - Your phrase.
              "The responsibility for everything that happens in the country always rests with the head of state, and further down the rankings," the president said during the annual press conference.
              PS
              "It's not Putin who burns the pots,
              Putin is not imprisoned
              Why do people scold him?
              I personally do not understand.
              He doesn’t hold the salary
              Nurses and teachers.
              He’s not knocking down pedestrians,
              Having drunk up to this in the trash.
              And he doesn’t extort money
              At the hospital under the guise of a doctor.
              He’s not even throwing a ridge
              On Ilyich square.
              And help everyone who suffers
              He even wanted to, could not.
              He just watches everything
              An ordinary living demigod. "
          3. Malyuta
            Malyuta 23 June 2020 18: 51
            -1
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            buckwheat from 45 to 70 for 700g
            pasta with 35 rubles. up to 48 rubles for 1 kg. (Peter's fields by weight)

            Wow, you live in some kind of oasis of "cheapness", we still have cucumbers 150 rubles, young potatoes 70, and took strawberries for children for 370 !!!
            Essentially, everything has risen in price by 1,5 times, I will not pay for utilities until the mutin dies.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 19: 01
              18
              Quote: Malyuta
              Wow, you live in some kind of oasis of "cheapness", we still have cucumbers 150 rubles, young potatoes 70, and took strawberries for children for 370 !!!

              Krasnodar Territory, thank God not a resort, but a small provincial town, where everyone grows potatoes, cucumbers and strawberries, otherwise you will die of hunger, because the average salary in the city 15tr.
              Quote: Malyuta
              I won’t pay for utilities until the mutin dies.

              Comrade, everyone will be evicted or disconnected from the apartment, we already hang up lists of debtors at the porches
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 39
                +9
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Comrade, everyone will be evicted or disconnected from the apartment, we already hang up lists of debtors at the porches

                They've been hanging with us for a long time .. the lists are huge, the minimum debt is 20 tons, the maximum is about three hundred thousand wooden .. Yesterday I went to the housing and communal services that serves my village ... Two news, firstly, all the staff at the hospital, except the cashier, says her carried ... I ask, the crown? No, they say .. everyone has pneumonia .. They don’t put a crown on it .. This is the first thing that struck me, there is a specific epidemic in the villages .. In general, I’m sitting on, the cashier works for everyone .. lies on the table with a list of debtors for housing and communal services in the area they serve, on the first page there are 50 debtors, there are 15 such pages .. there are no less than 20 rubles .. In short, kapets .. and here you want the 000th. 90th already have come, just not everyone understood it yet.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 22: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: Svarog
                  They hang with us for a long time .. the lists are huge, the minimum debt is 20 tons, the maximum is about three hundred thousand wooden.

                  What region are you from, that everything is so sad for you? We have a little easier in the Kuban.
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 23 June 2020 22: 38
                    +5
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Quote: Svarog
                    They hang with us for a long time .. the lists are huge, the minimum debt is 20 tons, the maximum is about three hundred thousand wooden.

                    What region are you from, that everything is so sad for you? We have a little easier in the Kuban.

                    Tatarstan I think so everywhere ..
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 22: 42
                      +1
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Tatarstan I think so everywhere ..

                      We just have a softer climate, heating seems to pull you a lot.
              2. Malyuta
                Malyuta 24 June 2020 00: 00
                +2
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Krasnodar Territory, thank God not a resort, but a small provincial town, where everyone grows potatoes, cucumbers and strawberries, otherwise you will die of hunger, because the average salary in the city 15tr.

                That's for sure, but we have another month before the first cucumbers, we are north of km. at 900.
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Comrade, everyone will be evicted or disconnected from the apartment, we already hang up lists of debtors at the porches

                Now the question is of a fundamental nature, either we or they.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 00: 16
                  +1
                  Quote: Malyuta
                  Now the question is of a fundamental nature, either we or they.

                  Yes, the confrontation is growing. I can’t understand alone where the number of Kremlin boats comes from. There are not many Zaputinsky comments, but a lot of minutes. Multiaki?
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 24 June 2020 09: 11
                    -3
                    Quote: aleksejkabanets
                    Zaputinsky comments a little

                    But there are plenty of "all-European" ones.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 10: 04
                      +1
                      Quote: Piramidon
                      But there are plenty of "all-European" ones.

                      Worse are only the "capers" and "guardians".
          4. purple
            purple 23 June 2020 19: 05
            -6
            40 buckwheat
            pasta and 25 eat
            sugar 28
            I can’t understand about canned food

            Do you visit the store at all? or so?
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 19: 14
              +5
              Quote: purple
              40 buckwheat
              pasta and 25 eat
              sugar 28
              I can’t understand about canned food

              Do you visit the store at all? or so?

              My wife works there, I specifically asked her to write prices. I visit the store, just to carry bags))). In fact, the word "finally" does not exist in Russian.
            2. ancient
              ancient 23 June 2020 20: 01
              +8
              Quote: purple
              40 buckwheat

              I even have a dog that is not a Chinese surrogate ... or you take an example from the husband of the "Iron Lady" ... everything comes down to buckwheat ... the poor little one eats it ... wassat ursavels regularly.
              Quote: purple
              pasta and 25 eat

              What ... do you eat in the "trash heap"? belay
              Quote: purple
              I can’t understand about canned food

              Almost all fish (in the segment for "people") is ... cuff (including sprats and red caviar).
              50% meat from soy.
              Quote: purple
              Do you visit the store at all? or so?

              But what stores do you visit that you have everything so "cheap", but so .. "natural"? wassat
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 41
                +6
                Quote: ancient
                What ... do you eat in the "trash heap"?

                No mess offers the population there to eat ..
              2. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 00: 28
                +2
                Quote: ancient
                I don’t even have a dog. It’s a Chinese surrogate.

                For several years now, fish has not been biting bread, even though it’s cracking ... crying
            3. Alf
              Alf 24 June 2020 13: 33
              0
              Quote: purple
              40 buckwheat

              For what weight? Per kg? Or for a pack?
          5. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 19: 21
            +3
            Where did you see sugar in 17. In St. Petersburg, he was 30, and remained
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 19: 37
              10
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Where did you see sugar in 17. In St. Petersburg, he was 30, and remained

              January 2020, hypermarket "Magnet" sugar 5kg. - 85 rubles. It follows from this (85: 5 = 17) that 1 kg cost 17 rubles. I already wrote to you below, you completely in vain did not study mathematics at school.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 19: 41
                -4
                In the Five and in the Tape, he was 30 per kg and now 30. I do not immediately buy 5 kilograms.
            2. Nehist
              Nehist 23 June 2020 19: 41
              +7
              And in our region the cheapest is 43 rubles and on average 47-50 rubles per kg
          6. 210ox
            210ox 23 June 2020 19: 31
            11
            Where did you see canned food for 10 rubles? The price tag for fish starts at 50 rubles. Sprat is only cheaper.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 19: 40
              +8
              Quote: 210ox
              Where did you see canned food for 10 rubles? The price tag for fish starts at 50 rubles. Sprat is only cheaper.

              Meant, rose in price from 10 to 30 per can. Those. those canned foods that cost 50 rubles. Now they cost from 60 to 80 rubles. per pc
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 43
              +2
              Quote: 210ox
              Where did you see canned food for 10 rubles?

              There, only the cost of the tin can is 10 rubles .. maybe inside is empty? Canned food for 10 rubles ... have not seen for a long time ..
          7. cradle
            cradle 24 June 2020 05: 44
            -1
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            List with examples of a sharp jump in prices, for what, where?

            buckwheat from 45 to 70 for 700g
            pasta with 35 rubles. up to 48 rubles for 1 kg. (Peter's fields by weight)
            tea for 10-30 rubles per pack
            sugar from 17 rubles to 30 rubles per kg
            canned goods from 5 to 10 rubles per piece
            rice with 45 rubles. up to 75 rub. per kg
            millet with 25 rubles. up to 45 rubles per kg
            Enough or go through the entire assortment of the store? Who goes to the store for you? Or is there a question in the Zaputin training manual?

            Falsehood: In Ramenskoye, I saw buckwheat in May for 42 with my own eyes. When there was a stir in stores in April, jumped to 70, but then rolled back. There are 17 pastas. I don’t remember sugar and rice, but somehow I didn’t notice the jump. I am not interested in millet from the word at all. Tea has even fallen in price.
            1. Alf
              Alf 24 June 2020 13: 35
              0
              Quote: besik
              When there was a stir in stores in April, jumped to 70, but then rolled back. There are 17 pasta.

              Per kilogram or per pack?
        4. demo
          demo 23 June 2020 18: 54
          24
          Do you go to the store / market yourself, or is someone doing this for you?
          If you yourself, then you are disingenuous (I said this softly).
          If for you, then ask what and how much it costs.
          Wife, the last three months almost every week declares - prices are rising.
          Those. she goes to the same shops, buys the same products, and the price of a check increases.
          Just do not require a scan of the check.
          And do not go in such a dishonest way that you are trying to go.

          A month ago, I stand in line.
          Ahead is the neighbor from my porch.
          A very old woman.
          She didn’t make the purchase and she doesn’t have enough money to pay.
          He took out and handed the cashier 100 rubles. The woman behind me is another 100 rubles.
          And it was so disappointing that a pensioner (a doctor with 50 years of experience, a cardiologist) cannot buy ordinary sausages.
          What's this? This is normal?
          Like people like you, your hand rises to write.
          1. purple
            purple 23 June 2020 19: 06
            -23 qualifying.
            Quote: demo
            A month ago, I stand in line.
            Ahead is the neighbor from my porch.
            A very old woman.
            She didn’t make the purchase and she doesn’t have enough money to pay.
            He took out and handed the cashier 100 rubles. The woman behind me is another 100 rubles.
            And it was so disappointing that a pensioner (a doctor with 50 years of experience, a cardiologist) cannot buy ordinary sausages.
            What's this? This is normal?
            Like people like you, your hand rises


            Well, yes, well, yes ... and even in Crimea, not everything is so simple ... I do not believe it, fake it
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 23 June 2020 20: 22
              +9
              Quote: purple
              don't believe fake

              And didn’t you try to open the little eyes on the sides?
            2. demo
              demo 23 June 2020 21: 41
              0
              If I send on foot an erotic journey, then you will find the address yourself.

              Why should I fake it?
              I am not an actor. Play is not accustomed.
              White is white. Black is black.
              Vile - respectively.
              Read my previous comments and understand.
          2. The Little Humpbacked Horse
            The Little Humpbacked Horse 23 June 2020 19: 11
            +2
            Quote: demo
            And it became so insulting


            I stand in line at the station now. In front of me, my grandfather bought a train ticket for just one stop! I almost burst into tears and bought him a ticket to Vladivostok. Grandfather rested, shouting something about the cottage and one stop, but I still put him on the train. Already almost sobbing. Well, what kind of power do we have ?!
            1. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 23 June 2020 20: 15
              12
              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              I almost burst into tears and bought him a ticket to Vladivostok. Grandfather rested, shouted something about the cottage and one stop, but I still put him on the train.

              Did you buy from Kaliningrad? wink
              Seriously, sometimes in a pharmacy you have to do this. By the way, I saw that pharmacists also helped the unfortunate from their own pockets.
              Good for you!
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 23 June 2020 20: 25
              0
              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              I almost burst into tears and bought him a ticket to Vladivostok. Grandfather rested, shouting something about the cottage and one stop, but I still put him on the train. Already almost sobbing. Well, what kind of power do we have ?!

              Come to me, and buy a ticket. I'll put you on the train.
            3. snake
              snake 23 June 2020 21: 28
              0
              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              In front of me, my grandfather bought a train ticket for just one stop! I almost burst into tears and bought him a ticket to Vladivostok. Grandfather rested, shouting something about the cottage and one stop, but I still put him on the train.

              Maybe grandfather really needed to go to the cottage through one stop, and you deported him to Vladik?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 46
                +3
                Quote: serpent
                Quote: Humpbacked Horse
                In front of me, my grandfather bought a train ticket for just one stop! I almost burst into tears and bought him a ticket to Vladivostok. Grandfather rested, shouting something about the cottage and one stop, but I still put him on the train.

                Maybe grandfather really needed to go to the cottage through one stop, and you deported him to Vladik?

                It’s cruel ... practically exiled to Kolyma .. it’s no wonder that my grandfather resisted ...
            4. demo
              demo 23 June 2020 21: 50
              +1
              Joker?
              Well, well.
              When in life like this everything goes smoothly, with jokes, jokes, they think that their road is a pillar, the problems are solved, the tasks are set, the goals are set.
              But sometimes the program crashes.
              And everything goes as we would not like to wish the enemy.
              That's when the "client" starts screaming - and what for me?
              But all this time I was yours, and soul, and body!
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuQ0aF2j8YA&feature=youtu.be
              This video explains what simply cannot fit in a normal head.
              It’s impossible to imagine this.

              Look and think about where we have come with this power.
              I hope, though not very, that you can add 2 + 2 and draw conclusions.
              Further we (Russians) expect such that the Nazi camps do not seem so terrible.
              For there were invaders-invaders-beasts, and here their own, homegrown, liberated, reveling in such permissiveness that there are not enough words to just give an unemotional assessment.
              This video is specially (as if) prepared for people like you.
              One pleases.
              Your ticket will not be in Vladik, but in Dudinka.
              No refund. One way.
          3. 210ox
            210ox 23 June 2020 20: 57
            11
            Colleagues. We have lost the topic of the article a bit. I agree with Putin about the tax and the direction of funds for the treatment of children. But! Why can't this be done earlier? Did you finally find out that they are collecting funds via SMS? What needs to be done to raise the authority, for they probably reported about "boiling among the masses"?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 49
              +3
              Quote: 210ox
              Colleagues. We slightly lost the topic of the article. I agree with Putin about the tax and the allocation of funds for the treatment of children. But! Why can't this be done before?

              I also support the fact that they increase the tax for the rich .. but there are doubts that they will increase it, it is clear that he voiced it before the vote .. and when it will pass we'll see .. there were a lot of promises from him ..
              What needs to be done to raise the authority, for they probably reported about "boiling among the masses"?

              I think it is .. There they constantly monitor the mood of citizens .. you can see the mood will soon pour over the edge ...
            2. dauria
              dauria 23 June 2020 22: 41
              +4
              But! Why can't this be done before?


              So he just said so - "zeroing is at stake, here's a handout, my dear ones." Or didn't he? Well, I forgot to say, I guess. Old age is not a joy. recourse
          4. cradle
            cradle 24 June 2020 05: 45
            +1
            Well, it started about senior citizens ...
          5. Tatyana Pershina
            Tatyana Pershina 24 June 2020 20: 24
            0
            Ohhh! This is from an old training manual. This has already been written. Repeat yourself.
        5. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 23 June 2020 19: 10
          28
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          List with examples of a sharp jump in prices, for what, where?

          You stop the driver to send food, lift your ass from the couch, go to the store - you'll see everything! See the sharp rise in prices for flour, sugar, cereals and dairy products. Oil of 400 g was worth 169, now 199 ... You got already, kremleboty ... And everyone is offended that they do not love you ...
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 19: 23
            -19 qualifying.
            Sharp growth is how much? A colossal one and a half to two percent?
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 19: 28
              13
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Sharp growth is how much? A colossal one and a half to two percent?

              Did you finish school for money? Someone wrote math tests for you?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 49
                +3
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                Sharp growth is how much? A colossal one and a half to two percent?

                Did you finish school for money? Someone wrote math tests for you?

                There, with history as well as with mathematics ..
            2. Alf
              Alf 24 June 2020 13: 39
              0
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Sharp growth is how much? A colossal one and a half to two percent?

              In spring, Auchan buckwheat in Auchan cost 40 rubles, now 70. One and a half to two percent ...
          2. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 19: 23
            -13 qualifying.
            Read above and carefully, you need to keep the answer for the bazaar, if I'm a Kremlin boat, then you are probably a Chinese pilot!? Just to grunt without reading everything
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 23 June 2020 20: 29
              11
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              for the bazaar you need to keep the answer

              I am also responsible for the bazaar, and I will say that bread (if you can call it that) has risen in price.
              1. cradle
                cradle 24 June 2020 05: 47
                0
                without a bazaar, bread did not rise. angry
              2. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 24 June 2020 07: 46
                0
                Why don’t you like bread? If you’re baked by crooked half-educated people, then it won’t be bread
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 07: 48
                  +3
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  And what do you dislike about bread?

                  And not just me. If during the USSR, fish bite on bread with might and main, now something is squeamish.
                  1. Andrey VOV
                    Andrey VOV 24 June 2020 07: 53
                    +2
                    I don’t know, we bite both bread and pearl barley and the good old worm and corn and dough with lean aromatic butter
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 07: 56
                      +3
                      It’s biting everything, it’s stopped baking bread.
                  2. Gaubvaxta
                    Gaubvaxta 24 June 2020 08: 00
                    +2
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    And what do you dislike about bread?

                    And not just me. If during the USSR, fish bite on bread with might and main, now something is squeamish.

                    Eh Vladimir, they touched on such a sore subject .. Did someone bring a loaf of bread to the house so as not to bite the crust (knowing what he would get from his parents)? There was such a bread flavor, it's something ..
                    And I remember the taste of real bread, sausages and sausages ..
                    There’s half a stick of smoked sausage in the fridge, but I don’t want to eat it .. Already when I’ll specifically press it, you eat a piece .. rubber !!!!
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 08: 15
                      +5
                      Quote: Gaubvaxta
                      . Someone brought a loaf of bread to the house, so as not to bite the crust (realizing that he will receive from his parents)? There was such a bread flavor, it's something ..

                      We generally climbed the bakery as boys, they gave us defective bread, right from the molds, you take a couple of loaves, you go, throw up your hands so that you don’t burn your hands until you reach the house, you dig one loaf. And fed up all day.
          3. Nehist
            Nehist 23 June 2020 22: 26
            +8
            Where is this cheap oil? In our area of ​​180g, a pack costs almost 200r. My dear country is great ... Prices are different everywhere, but the "so-called average salaries" are the same ... Your presidential affairs are wonderful ...
            1. Grim Reaper
              Grim Reaper 24 June 2020 02: 05
              +5
              Well, let's get the pipies out. Yekaterinburg, Verkh - Isetsky district. Small market prices, Zavodskaya-Tatishcheva corner. Tomatoes, depending on the variety, from 110 to 190. Cucumbers on average 110. Potatoes 25, fresh 55. Greens 20 per bunch. Victoria 350, cherry 400. Watermelons (Iran) 110. Milk 40-45. Sausage, good, tasty, 350-450. Grilled chicken - 240 per piece. Bread from a private bakery, delicious 26. Nearby shop. "APPLE". Stew 119 (very good) chicken from 140, ice cream 29, a huge selection of ready-made meals. Polraion there, including pensioners. Near KB. I always go to buy eggs (44 per dec.) And cigarettes. Yes, it has risen in price compared to last year. Percentage by 10. IMHO.
              1. cradle
                cradle 24 June 2020 05: 49
                +2
                In Ramenskoye, in "Yarche" it looks like ... well, something more expensive, something cheaper. But somewhere like that.
              2. Nehist
                Nehist 24 June 2020 06: 57
                +3
                Sakhalin !! egg dozen 90r potatoes 70r tomatoes from varieties 150-170r sweet cherry 450-500r milk 65-80r bread 52-60r stew very good 170-190r ice cream the cheapest 35r It's a pity there is no price !!! I would lay out to you how DV Lives !!! Shop prices !!! More expensive on the market !!! For example, an egg of 130 rubles per dozen
              3. Nehist
                Nehist 24 June 2020 07: 29
                +2
                Offhand, the first I got an announcement about the sale of domestic eggs-
                Selling homemade eggs. From young hens. You can buy in the store at Chekhova 70b kor2. price 130r Who does not believe please welcome to Sahkom this is our regional resource, forum announcement news and so on. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://sakhalin.info/&ved=2ahUKEwj43NuBz5nqAhXyx6YKHY10BHAQFjAAegQICBAC&usg=AOvNaw2Ghnk8 and others may be interested in oh ... net
        6. ancient
          ancient 23 June 2020 19: 55
          12
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          List with examples of a sharp jump in prices, for what, where?

          If quick, Chlorhexidine. cost 13 rubles, now 140 per bottle
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 20: 51
            -5
            And this is a stir, as with buckwheat. High demand, deficit - price increases are inevitable.
            1. Alf
              Alf 24 June 2020 13: 41
              +1
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              And this is a stir, as with buckwheat. High demand, deficit - price increases are inevitable.

              Now there is no shortage, but prices for some reason remained ...
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 13: 43
                0
                We have fallen. In the hype buckwheat was under a hundred, now 40-45.
                1. Alf
                  Alf 24 June 2020 13: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  We have fallen. In the hype buckwheat was under a hundred, now 40-45.

                  Per kilogram or per pack?
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 13: 53
                    0
                    For a kilo. I take it in a store where it is packaged in plastic bags. On the price tag, the price is per kilo, and in the package there can be half a kilo and a half.
          2. Grim Reaper
            Grim Reaper 24 June 2020 02: 18
            +1
            Do you really need it? What happened?
            1. ancient
              ancient 24 June 2020 11: 30
              0
              Quote: Grim Reaper
              Do you really need it? What happened?

              Well, since I am writing about this ... then it is necessary! At least it is a hundred times better than hydrogen peroxide and prevents a bunch of diseases ... like "erysipelas".
              It is also not replaceable for animals, especially for cats, cats, when there are "gulki"
              1. Grim Reaper
                Grim Reaper 24 June 2020 19: 35
                0
                What is better perikisi? However, I understand you. I have two Frenchmen. And I shake over them like a boa constrictor over a pack of dust.
                1. ancient
                  ancient 25 June 2020 13: 00
                  0
                  Quote: Grim Reaper
                  What is better perikisi?

                  Peroxide "burns" the skin and wound edges, but "chlorine" does not.
    3. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 18: 45
      13
      Quote: Theodore
      He took care of what he attached the pens to! I got a flicker on the box.

      Our king is good, these are bad boyars.
    4. flicker
      flicker 23 June 2020 19: 08
      -12 qualifying.
      You are well done!
      In less than 2 minutes, and you already managed to read and set your vyser. bully
      1. Vrungeli
        Vrungeli 23 June 2020 19: 13
        -11 qualifying.
        Quote: flicker
        You are well done!
        In less than 2 minutes, and you already managed to read and set your vyser. bully

        They know how to do it. Here they united in gangs!
        Maybe men and it’s time for us to unite and soak a couple of such so as not to become impudent ..? They crushed us here on the site and intimidated us? Where is the legendary order?
        They Nikolai simply mock Russia and us that tomorrow will be .. This is a nightmare .. negative
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        2. flicker
          flicker 23 June 2020 20: 19
          -10 qualifying.
          Then united in gangs!
          Yes, they have bandits - "like a sieve from a dog's tail" lol
          "Here" they were fed, there were those who liked the food (there are 100 such people on the site). But after that they started having problems.
          As you said "gang". A gang is a community, where the individual begins to blur, being replaced by the collective. No more personal opinion, but the opinion of the gang. An intoxicating sense of unity appears, and with it a complete loss of the individual.
          Further more, this hundred, through collective mantras, introduces itself into a trance, i.e. into a special mental state in which the degree of conscious participation in thought processes is sharply weakened. Critical thinking is sharply weakened, after which they lose touch with reality - having lost touch with reality, they begin to carry collective delirium, they can no longer get away from it, as this is associated with the loss of collective involvement. Those. they do not want to drop out of the "gang".
          Although many of them are not bad guys, it is only the frequent immersion in trance that begins to negatively affect their daily life. It is very possible that conflicts in the family began to grow in them. From the family begin to drift into the "gang".
          For the "gang" is the place where you are appreciated, respected and not sawed.
          ---
          In general, there is no point in fighting them; they themselves are only doing worse.
          ---
          And yes, all lured places are in the field of view of special services. They often create them in order to collect the corresponding audience there.
          ---
          The time will come when everyone will be covered, now they are revealing who, where, why and how much.
          ---
          soldier bully
          1. Vrungeli
            Vrungeli 23 June 2020 21: 21
            +2
            Quote: flicker
            Yes, they are bandits - "like a sieve from a dog's tail" lol
            "Here" they were fed, there were those who liked the food (there are 100 such people on the site). But after that they started having problems.

            Well, they crap powerfully and I doubt about 100 (there are a lot of torpedoes) .. hi

            Quote: flicker
            Then united in gangs!
            Yes, they have bandits - "like a sieve from a dog's tail" lol
            "Here" they were fed, there were those who liked the food (there are 100 such people on the site). But after that they started having problems.
            As you said "gang". A gang is a community, where the individual begins to blur, being replaced by the collective. No more personal opinion, but the opinion of the gang. An intoxicating sense of unity appears, and with it a complete loss of the individual.
            Further more, this hundred, through collective mantras, introduces itself into a trance, i.e. into a special mental state in which the degree of conscious participation in thought processes is sharply weakened. Critical thinking is sharply weakened, after which they lose touch with reality - having lost touch with reality, they begin to carry collective delirium, they can no longer get away from it, as this is associated with the loss of collective involvement. Those. they do not want to drop out of the "gang".
            Although many of them are not bad guys, it is only the frequent immersion in trance that begins to negatively affect their daily life. It is very possible that conflicts in the family began to grow in them. From the family begin to drift into the "gang".
            For the "gang" is the place where you are appreciated, respected and not sawed.
            ---
            In general, there is no point in fighting them; they themselves are only doing worse.
            ---
            And yes, all lured places are in the field of view of special services. They often create them in order to collect the corresponding audience there.
            ---
            The time will come when everyone will be covered, now they are revealing who, where, why and how much.
            ---
            soldier bully

            Aren't you one of them? How did you justify everything so quickly))))
            And who identifies me?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 00: 38
              +1
              Quote: Vrungeli
              And who identifies me?

              Wow, the question! Questioner, you can say! Maybe the FSB? winked
            2. flicker
              flicker 24 June 2020 09: 20
              0
              Aren't you one of them?
              Of course not. Now bots are filtering info in social networks. Then, in case of an offense, they can show them their calls on the Internet (now it’s not difficult to identify a real person with a nickname).
              ZY many fighters "with the regime" can unsubscribe under several nicknames.
          2. snake
            snake 23 June 2020 21: 34
            0
            Quote: flicker
            A gang is a community, where the individual begins to blur, being replaced by the collective. No more personal opinion, but the opinion of the gang. An intoxicating sense of unity appears, and with it a complete loss of the individual. Further more, this hundred, through collective mantras, introduces itself into a trance, i.e. into a special mental state in which the degree of conscious participation in thought processes is sharply weakened. Critical thinking is sharply weakened, after which they lose touch with reality - having lost touch with reality, they begin to carry collective delirium, they can no longer get away from it, as this is associated with the loss of collective involvement. Those. they don't want to drop out of the "gang".
            Although many of them are not bad guys, it is only the frequent immersion in trance that begins to negatively affect their daily life. It is very possible that conflicts in the family began to grow in them. From the family begin to drift into the "gang".

          3. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 22: 14
            +2
            Quote: flicker
            Yes, they are bandits - "like a sieve from a dog's tail" lol
            "Here" they were fed, there were those who liked the food (there are 100 such people on the site). But after that they started having problems.
            As you said "gang". A gang is a community, where the individual begins to blur, being replaced by the collective. No more personal opinion, but the opinion of the gang. An intoxicating sense of unity appears, and with it a complete loss of the individual.
            Further more, this hundred, through collective mantras, introduces itself into a trance, i.e. into a special mental state in which the degree of conscious participation in thought processes is sharply weakened. Critical thinking is sharply weakened, after which they lose touch with reality - having lost touch with reality, they begin to carry collective delirium, they can no longer get away from it, as this is associated with the loss of collective involvement. Those. they do not want to drop out of the "gang".
            Although many of them are not bad guys, it is only the frequent immersion in trance that begins to negatively affect their daily life. It is very possible that conflicts in the family began to grow in them. From the family begin to drift into the "gang".
            For the "gang" is the place where you are appreciated, respected and not sawed.
            ---
            In general, there is no point in fighting them; they themselves are only doing worse.
            ---
            And yes, all lured places are in the field of view of special services. They often create them in order to collect the corresponding audience there.
            ---
            The time will come when everyone will be covered, now they are revealing who, where, why and how much.

            Nikolai, you have to have a bite.
          4. Grim Reaper
            Grim Reaper 24 June 2020 02: 21
            +2
            Gridasov, are you ????? bully bully
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 19: 22
        +8
        Quote: flicker
        You are well done!
        In less than 2 minutes, and you already managed to read

        Not everyone reads in syllables.
        Quote: flicker
        and put your vyser.

        Dear Kremlebot, your indignation cannot but make me happy.
        1. Vrungeli
          Vrungeli 23 June 2020 19: 53
          -9
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Dear Kremlebot, your indignation cannot but make me happy.

          And who do you consider yourself to be? You can just briefly say whose will wink
          1. mark2
            mark2 23 June 2020 23: 40
            -1
            And he himself considers himself a fighter with the regime. Such a little troller sits in a warm easy chair, pokes on a credit laptop, an apartment on a mortgage, a car on a car loan, a mobile at a pawnshop, a salary of 15000, because he can’t earn some money. All my free time is spent on the fight. Professional revolutionaries do not work.
            Why is this so? Because he can afford it. smile
    5. Awaz
      Awaz 23 June 2020 19: 21
      13
      and I agree with Fedya. Nothing at all prevented all this from happening before. Moreover, everything that was done before was just done to destroy medicine and shift the cost of medical care to people. The stories with the treatment of sick children requiring expensive drugs and operations, at their own expense, are simply genocide of the population. Okay, you don’t want to treat adults, but how did your hands go up refusing to treat children then? The most unpleasant thing is that the doctors were directly involved in this. Although it is clear that they forced, but still.
      What are these movements for now? Do you like the people? no one will appreciate.
      The rush to vote is even more alarming. There is a single day in September like. What prevented enduring? In general, we are tired of already watching everything for this show ...
      It’s hard to believe that even the increased taxes will go to children. Plato is very indicative of gas taxes. Well, yes, the roads have become better, but only based on the initial position. We know how to raise taxes, only here they somehow almost never come back to us ...
    6. TuM0305
      TuM0305 23 June 2020 20: 10
      16
      I did not find anything better than speculating on sick children, for 20 years I did not care about children and now I come to my senses! Really for those who protect him is not disgusting from themselves!
    7. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 23 June 2020 21: 46
      -5
      The IMF forbids coloring electronic payments, so it's time to vote for amendments to the Constitution ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 22: 17
        +2
        Quote: Tank jacket
        The IMF forbids coloring electronic payments, so it's time to vote for amendments to the Constitution ...

        Wake up, your head is already starting to think!
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 23 June 2020 22: 26
          -1
          Wake up, your head is already starting to think ... wassat We live in the digital age ... wassat
    8. 501Legion
      501Legion 23 June 2020 23: 18
      -2
      don't like it, go smell it
    9. zontov79
      zontov79 24 June 2020 05: 22
      +1
      Well, now we’ll heal!))
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 June 2020 17: 43
    17
    No matter how many charitable funds, centers of medical, rehabilitation clinics, hospitals and hospitals could be built if the cellist opened the case and poured a little for good deeds. And the hedgehogs with him shook the powerful ....
  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 23 June 2020 17: 43
    27
    But we, unlike many, managed to avoid a dramatic jump in unemployment.

    You - yes, but to us ... I would try the guarantor at my age to find a job.
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 23 June 2020 18: 22
      -28 qualifying.
      Quote: Mikhail M
      I would try the guarantor at my age to find work

      Try to find someone else who can do the job of a guarantor.
      1. basmach
        basmach 23 June 2020 18: 36
        18
        Of course, out of 140 million, only one unique was found. And without it, everything is full of seams and kayuk to the state. Only if you consider yourself unfit is your right. No need to judge for others!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 50
          -24 qualifying.
          Judging by the performance indicators of the local regional authorities in 85 entities, Putin’s level is not yet observed, and if they are observed as presidents, these people will definitely not go who needs such a haemorrhage — manual control of all of Russia.
          1. Beringovsky
            Beringovsky 23 June 2020 20: 41
            +9
            Quote: Vadim237
            Judging by the performance indicators of the local regional authorities in 85 entities, Putin’s equals are not yet observed ...

            So Putin has the same principle, to give boyars only to those who are more stupid than himself.
            Where, then, comes the equal?
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 22: 19
              0
              Quote: Beringovsky
              So Putin has the same principle, to give boyars only to those who are more stupid than himself.
              Where, then, comes the equal?

              For him and his accomplices, the most important thing is loyalty.
          2. Alf
            Alf 23 June 2020 22: 42
            -1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Judging by the performance indicators of the local regional authorities in 85 subjects, Putin’s equals are not yet observed

            So who appoints governors? Is not it Putin?
        2. codetalker
          codetalker 23 June 2020 18: 50
          -9
          The truth in the specifics. Name in studio, please.
      2. Alf
        Alf 23 June 2020 18: 53
        26
        Quote: Narak-zempo
        Try to find someone else who can do the job of a guarantor.

        Until the 99th year, too, from all the irons they shouted, there was no replacement for Yeltsin, and on New Year's Eve a clap was found and a replacement was found.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 23 June 2020 19: 11
          22
          By the way, yes ... they say there’s no one to vote for without him ... Yeah, you want red and brown ... I remember, I remember .. Now, the same songs ... Yeah, as you want in Ukraine, liberals .. .. You want a bulk, etc. ... Nothing has changed .. only the last name
        2. Was mammoth
          Was mammoth 23 June 2020 20: 36
          +3
          Quote: Alf
          ... there is no substitute for Yeltsin ....

          "Zeroing" is great! However, there is an option: "I'm leaving!" It's strange that no one takes it into account. By the way, there are also "straws" in the amendments. wink
          1. Alf
            Alf 23 June 2020 20: 39
            +2
            Quote: There was a mammoth
            there is an option: "I'm leaving!" It's strange that no one takes it into account.

            Sands. After Putin will be Putin ...
            1. Was mammoth
              Was mammoth 23 June 2020 21: 08
              +3
              "Let me emphasize: our basic guidelines remain unchanged." Vladimir Putin. This is the grain of all that has been said.
              1. Alf
                Alf 23 June 2020 21: 17
                +3
                Quote: Was Mammoth
                "Let me emphasize: our basic guidelines remain unchanged." Vladimir Putin. This is the grain of all that has been said.

                "There will be no course change."
            2. snake
              snake 23 June 2020 21: 41
              +3
              Quote: Alf
              After Putin will be Putin ...

              Russia is our sacred state
              Russia is our favorite country.
              And Putin, and Putin, and Putin, and Putin,
              Both Putin and Putin at all times!
              By the way, they heard the news: In Kyrgyzstan, the previous president was sentenced to 11 years. In give, Asians. And in his verse, Blok said: Yes, the Scythians are us, yes, we are Asians ... But this is so ... by the way I had to ...
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 23 June 2020 21: 59
                +2
                Quote: serpent
                : In Kyrgyzstan, the previous president was sentenced to 11 years. In give, Asians.

                We will not get a ride after zeroing .. they will not be jurisdictional now ..
                1. snake
                  snake 23 June 2020 22: 08
                  +4
                  What problems? We have the Constitution as a weekly magazine. A hundred amendments - here, a hundred - there. How long skillfully? Following Putin will need to blame someone. And the 90s farther and farther ...
        3. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 23 June 2020 21: 42
          -7
          Quote: Alf
          Until the 99th year, too, from all the irons they shouted, there was no replacement for Yeltsin, and on New Year's Eve a clap was found and a replacement was found.

          Don't "clap". A very serious work was carried out there to find a successor.
          Remember how dangerous it was that the populists, led by Primakov, would win.
          1. Alf
            Alf 23 June 2020 21: 46
            +8
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            Don't "clap". A very serious work was carried out there to find a successor.

            This work was carried out under the carpet, and the electorate was rubbed that there was no replacement.
            Quote: Narak-zempo
            Remember how dangerous it was that the populists, led by Primakov, would win.

            For whom is danger? For the Yeltsin clan companions? And which populists? Are not those that, together with Primakov, Gerashchenko, etc., pulled the country out of default?
            1. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 23 June 2020 21: 49
              -5
              Quote: Alf
              This work was carried out under the carpet, and the electorate was rubbed that there was no replacement.

              You were born yesterday?
              Such serious matters are not put on display by the crowd, but are decided collectively by serious people. Until they found a suitable candidate, it was impossible to release elemental electoral forces. The art of management consists in directing this element in the right direction - like water to a turbine of a power plant.
        4. Achilles
          Achilles 23 June 2020 22: 05
          +3
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Narak-zempo
          Try to find someone else who can do the job of a guarantor.

          Until the 99th year, too, from all the irons they shouted, there was no replacement for Yeltsin, and on New Year's Eve a clap was found and a replacement was found.

          Who was screaming? If you don’t remember, Yeltsin and Zyuganov were on a par with Yeltsin’s second term, and who could say that there is no substitute for Yeltsin? Then, as I recall, everyone said they would remove this drunkard, but not the opposite
      3. snucerist
        snucerist 23 June 2020 19: 16
        17
        Those. no such person?
        But doesn’t it seem to you that if among 140 million inhabitants there is not one capable of governing a country, then is such a country worthless?
    2. alone
      alone 23 June 2020 18: 24
      22
      Quote: Mikhail M
      I would try the guarantor at his age to find a job.

      Don’t worry .. He already took care of his work .. until 2036
      1. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 23 June 2020 19: 23
        10
        About that and speech. Top-level officials have no problems with work and earnings. And their relatives are cool businessmen. And a person 60+, and even 50+ can not find a normal job.
  4. Deniska999
    Deniska999 23 June 2020 17: 43
    15
    There, with this tax, the trick is that only that part of the income that exceeds 5 million is subject to an increased rate. People are trying to appease. It is good for sick children, but raising the rate by 2 pp is ridiculous.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 23 June 2020 17: 57
      -2
      Raise immediately all will begin to hide. And interfere. It always happens. Tactically so correct.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 23 June 2020 18: 17
        +6
        Raise immediately all will begin to hide. And interfere. It always happens.
        ... So you do not hide ... You write as if doing it ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 18: 19
          0
          Not. Everything is more banal. So already in the history of mankind it happened many times. Why will people behave differently now? )
          1. basmach
            basmach 23 June 2020 18: 37
            15
            And what the hell then the entire created fiscal system?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 23 June 2020 18: 49
              -5
              As money appeared, so she appeared, one must think) there is a conversation about something else. Let’s imagine your income of 10 million. And you paid for many years at 13 percent. And then bang and for example 40. And this is serious money. Are you happy to run to give them away?) Yeah. I really believe. It will be like this so that most will disappear and that’s it. And why is this needed? I don’t mind raising it, but why do it stupid? Then run around to look for where they hide them? Rather, from sharp steps, the budget will only lose. And so it’s getting bigger. Then you can still raise a little. Then again.
              1. AUL
                AUL 23 June 2020 19: 16
                12
                Quote: carstorm 11
                And this is serious money. Are you happy to run to give them away?) Yeah.

                So - "you have no methods against Kostya Saprykin"? laughing
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 28
                  -7
                  Why?) You can train to pay more. It’s just not fast. At least I would do that. I raise a little bit gradually
            2. Alf
              Alf 23 June 2020 18: 56
              12
              Quote: basmach
              And what the hell then the entire created fiscal system?

              So it is imprisoned only on the lower ones ... but it does not go into climb.
          2. Alf
            Alf 23 June 2020 18: 55
            +3
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Not. Everything is more banal. So already in the history of mankind it happened many times. Why will people behave differently now? )

            In the USSR, too, tax evasion was legal?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 23 June 2020 18: 59
              -1
              And in the USSR there were such official incomes that there was any sense for this?) For such people there was the OBKhSS. The system is different. What they planted then is now called simply business. A smart guy could not officially become a millionaire by creating, for example, an application? Or delivery service? Or open for example a logistics management agency and make money? So the question is not in cash
              1. Alf
                Alf 23 June 2020 19: 02
                +8
                Quote: carstorm 11
                And in the USSR there were such official revenues that there was any sense for this?)

                It's just that in the Soviet Union the phrase "to get away from tax" sounded like a Chinese letter.
                And the phrase from In jazz is only a girl. As you know, our income is not taxed, caused true bewilderment and misunderstanding.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 11
                  -3
                  Because there was no point in leaving. You could not then earn a million a month legally.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 23 June 2020 19: 12
                    +7
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    You could not then earn a million a month legally.

                    Is it possible now to earn a lemon legally, or rather, without prejudice to others?
                    1. AU Ivanov.
                      AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 19: 25
                      -10 qualifying.
                      Can. "Entrepreneurship" is called.
                    2. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 36
                      -2
                      What does it mean without prejudice? Open for example a list of young people under 30 who have become millionaires. Most of this is it. What do they harm you with? Or for example the owner of the platform on which people buy everything in a row? Hundreds of thousands per month
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 23 June 2020 19: 42
                        +5
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Open for example a list of young people under 30 who have become millionaires. Most of this is it. What do they harm you with?

                        By lifting up the price of their goods. People buy this product (accounted for) and, accordingly, compensate for these costs by raising the price of their product.
                        The creator of the antivirus has thrown a price, a businessman bought a user, and introduced a price increase for his product, we paid this increased price.
                        As the great, without fools, Franklin Delano Roosevelt-For all who pays on asphalt pays for everything.
                2. Alexey RA
                  Alexey RA 23 June 2020 19: 11
                  +3
                  Quote: Alf
                  It's just that in the Soviet Union the phrase "to get away from tax" sounded like a Chinese letter.

                  In the late USSR. For in the Stalin and Khrushchev USSR such concepts as tax evasion и financial inspector were understandable for citizens from the legal non-state sector of the economy.
              2. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 23 June 2020 23: 59
                +1
                Quote: carstorm 11
                And in the USSR there were such official incomes that there was any sense for this?) For such people there was the OBKhSS. The system is different. What they planted then is now called simply business. A smart guy could not officially become a millionaire by creating, for example, an application? Or delivery service? Or open for example a logistics management agency and make money? So the question is not in cash

                Maybe you remember that under the USSR (before Khrushchev), there were cooperatives, artels. There were also those who worked "for themselves" and they paid taxes.
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 23 June 2020 18: 32
          -3
          Then you must first note cash as a class
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 54
            0
            So, the digital economy and cashless payments have already begun, and the neural networks will be connected and the AI ​​will be deployed and all the money will be in the palm of your hand where you earned from whom, how much you bought and so on in the smallest detail - no one will hide anything from the tax authorities all funds including state.
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 23 June 2020 20: 10
              +7
              Quote: Vadim237
              AI will be implemented and all grandmas will be in full view where on what you earned from whom I bought for how much, etc. in great detail

              Will this also apply to cellists?
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 23 June 2020 22: 01
                +3
                Quote: Karabin
                Quote: Vadim237
                AI will be implemented and all grandmas will be in full view where on what you earned from whom I bought for how much, etc. in great detail

                Will this also apply to cellists?

                Grandmothers will be clearly visible only to ordinary citizens .. and these data have already been deleted even in the regal chamber .. real estate of untouchables understand ..
            2. snake
              snake 23 June 2020 22: 02
              -1
              Quote: Vadim237
              and there they will implement AI and all the money will be in full view where on what you earned from whom I bought for and so on in great detail - no one will hide anything from the tax audit a strict audit of all funds, including state ones.

              How was it in "Gorodok" with Stoyanov and Oleinikov:
              - Artificial intelligence will not work as you do.
              - Because it is artificial?
              - Because he is still intelligence.
      2. aglet
        aglet 23 June 2020 18: 50
        16
        "Raise at once strongly, everyone will start to hide. And interfere. It always happens. Tactically it is more correct."
        and what, and no one to find? and pounding on the hands? poor colonel of the FSB 9 billion re saved up for old age, so immediately found. the power organs are not impoverished with talents, what to steal, what to look for
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 18: 56
          -2
          Right Nevertheless, people with such money are not friends with their heads and keep everything at home. He could not legalize them. Now it is extremely difficult to do. To find? Who will run after every million rubles? And then more to prove? But I hope you understand that the conversation is about income and not theft?
          1. aglet
            aglet 23 June 2020 19: 05
            +4
            "I hope you understand that the conversation is about income and not theft?"
            if they start to hide taxes, this will be theft
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 08
              -4
              So I get to the point that taking away a lot at once it will begin. Bulk. Why is this necessary? Do not collect money but look for it?
      3. Alf
        Alf 23 June 2020 18: 54
        13
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Raise immediately all will begin to hide.

        So accept the laws and cover the loopholes. Who is bothering?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 09
          -7
          Right Introduce fiscal authorities to all firms in the country to track payments in envelopes.
      4. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 23 June 2020 19: 20
        14
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Raise immediately all will begin to hide. And interfere.

        They don’t hide in the EU, they don’t hide in the USA, and they hovered in Russia ... In our country, the bulk of the population has an annual income of up to a million. And here are five !!! Correctly noticed:
        Quote: Deniska999
        There with this tax, the trick is that only that part of the income that exceeds 5 million is subject to an increased rate.

        All our guarantor is trying to get out on the foolish ... Well, well ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 46
          -6
          Well, it’s probably worth studying the question of how the tax system was formed in Europe. start with germany. Since the time of Bismarck. Then you’ll understand why it’s customary to pay. We have a hole in our 70s and its construction is essentially a new one.
      5. snucerist
        snucerist 23 June 2020 19: 24
        11
        For some reason, no one hides or interferes in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Great Britain, Germany, Greece, Israel, the USA, Spain, Italy, Canada, China, the Netherlands, Finland, France, and even a bunch of other states that have a progressive scale tax. The upper bar which sometimes reaches 50%.
        What is it?
        So are others clamped?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 48
          -3
          Up to 90 can reach. But as said above, start with the history of its formation. Then you will not compare us and them.
      6. Beringovsky
        Beringovsky 23 June 2020 20: 56
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Raise immediately all will begin to hide. And interfere.

        That is, it means there is no normal tax in the country?
        For 20 years, the former GBshnik failed to establish an effective tax service?
        Try to "shrink" in Europe or the States - so they will warm up, it will not seem a little.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 22: 15
          -3
          Yes, where does the tax? I say that people will not want to pay and you are tempted to run to look for what they are hiding. What do you need to collect or search for taxes? you can slap at least 50 at least 70 percent. only they also need to be collected. one service is not enough. it is necessary that people themselves do not say what I would like but understand this necessary. all will again run into bonus envelopes and pay taxes will be at a minimum. you will ultimately collect even less. They can collect money well. but now units run away from it, unlike let's say about 15 years ago.
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 23 June 2020 18: 00
      +7
      Quote: Deniska999
      but raising the bid by 2 pp is ridiculous.

      Down and Out trouble started. wink
      1. Sklendarka
        Sklendarka 23 June 2020 18: 18
        0
        Trouble, oh trouble !!! and it will be famously ...
        ,, ... the parrot Talker is distinguished by intelligence and ingenuity ... "/ forgot how the m / f is called /
        1. alone
          alone 23 June 2020 18: 22
          +7
          Quote: Skalendarka
          . "/ forgot how m / f is called /

          "The Mystery of the Third Planet" laughing
        2. parusnik
          parusnik 23 June 2020 18: 29
          +2
          Talker Bird ... Mf The Secret of the Third Planet
          1. Van 16
            Van 16 23 June 2020 19: 55
            +1
            According to Kir Bulychev. Good cartoon, by the way. And the books are wonderful hi
      2. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 23 June 2020 18: 26
        18
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        Quote: Deniska999
        but raising the bid by 2 pp is ridiculous.
        Down and Out trouble started.

        Ugums. Very dashing. At this rate, 2% in 20 years of rule, we will come to the tax system in China in about 300 years.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 23 June 2020 18: 33
          +2
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          2% for 20 years of rule,

          what no, 20 years will not pull. A maximum of two more terms.
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          come in about 300 years

          Your words, to God’s ears ... +300 years for Russia, this is wonderful.
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 23 June 2020 18: 38
          0
          And how is it in China? There, excuse me the minimum taxes for the bulk of the population, and billionaires all members of the CCP or, let’s say, make voluntary donations. There is tough state capitalism, with concessions for small and medium-sized businesses and tight currency regulation. Plus closed reporting on the economy, no one really knows the state of the economy and how it is provided. Well, no one has canceled labor camps.
  5. New Year day
    New Year day 23 June 2020 17: 43
    17
    As always, he speaks well, but as a performance, then ....
    According to the president, such a measure will allow receiving at least 60 billion rubles. Such money cannot be sent for anything other than medical care for seriously ill children.

    How many petrodollars the country earns, but there is not enough money for the treatment of children .. Shame.
    And as for the new taxes, they’ll steal it, like the old ones
    1. Region68
      Region68 23 June 2020 18: 05
      +1
      For the sake of justice, there will not be enough money for this ..
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 18: 29
      +9
      Quote: Silvestr
      How many petrodollars the country earns, but there is not enough money to treat children.

      Someone earns, but not a country.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 57
        -1
        30% of the budget from this money is fed, including the NWF is filled.
    3. aglet
      aglet 23 June 2020 18: 54
      +8
      "How many petrodollars the country earns, but there is not enough money for the treatment of children .. Shame."
      the error came out, not the country, but Sechin. a country with it only has taxes (maybe), but it pays for losses
      "And what about the new taxes, they will steal, like the old ones"
      here I completely agree with you
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 23 June 2020 19: 35
        18
        Quote: aglet
        the error came out, not the country, but Sechin. a country with it only has taxes (maybe), but it pays for losses

        now if it were so!
  6. paul72
    paul72 23 June 2020 17: 44
    -2
    Damn, he’s still talking, and now here you are.
    It’s even faster than in the USSR - in the morning in the newspaper, in the evening in the couplet
  7. Russ
    Russ 23 June 2020 17: 48
    0
    To some extent

    I would like specifics .... what's this? Somewhere in the middle? recourse
    1. Clear
      Clear 23 June 2020 20: 39
      +1
      Quote: Russia
      To some extent

      I would like specifics .... what's this? Somewhere in the middle? recourse

      "To one degree or another," here means that what they would not talk about, but coronavirus still in the spotlight, as for fucking everyone
      hi
  8. paul3390
    paul3390 23 June 2020 17: 48
    21
    Judging by the number of promises and guided by the experience of the past 30 years, we’re definitely a khan .. It seems that I started something really dirty ...
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 23 June 2020 17: 50
    10
    No, in principle, not bad. Better late than never. One confuses:
    Such money cannot be sent for anything other than medical care for seriously ill children.
    ... Who will control how and how they will be distributed.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 18: 28
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      Who will control how and how they will be distributed.

      All the same, and as always.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 23 June 2020 18: 37
        15
        I read your comment and remembered: Citizens! - said Ostap, opening the meeting. - Life dictates its laws, its cruel laws. I will not tell you about the purpose of our meeting - you know it. The goal is holy. Everywhere we hear groans. From all over our vast country cry out for help. We must lend a helping hand, and we will extend it. Some of you serve and eat bread and butter, others engage in latrine and eat sandwiches with caviar. Both of them sleep in their beds and hide in warm blankets. Only small children, street children, are without a prize. These flowers of the street, or, as the proletarians of intellectual labor put it, flowers on asphalt, deserve a better fate. We, gentlemen of the jury, must help them. And we, gentlemen of the jury, will help them. - Comrades! - continued Ostap. - Need immediate help! We must tear the children from the tenacious paws of the street, and we will tear them out of there! Let's help the children! Let us remember that children are the flowers of life. I invite you to make your contributions now and help the children. Only children, and no one else. Do you understand me?
  10. NordUral
    NordUral 23 June 2020 17: 55
    14
    What joy! And once again, I'm already confused. Still believes that the people are as naive and gullible as before the last pension reform?
    Especially touched by the new tax bar. Already raised by 2% for the gifted 5 lemons per year. I applaud for the company with the oligarchs and officials.
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 23 June 2020 18: 16
      -10 qualifying.
      And you are aware that half the country (tenants, self-employed hucksters, jacks of all trades, large and small businesses, etc.) do not pay taxes or pay extra. Do you pay it yourself?
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 21
        20
        In the know, Andrew. Mostly he paid. But for some time he worked and self-employed, when he rose after the falls. And now I don’t cry, since I retire and play with what I could not do in my youth, a pensioner's hobby with hands and head.
        You'd better ask the oligarchs how they evade taxes. An interesting novel would be.
        1. 4ekist
          4ekist 23 June 2020 18: 28
          +4
          Exactly. Something is not visible to the work of the authorities for economic security and tax collection. Bad thoughts come to mind. But from those working in white and earning 10-12 thousand, they deduct everything as expected. After all, pensioners work to mend their "holes" in the family budget at least a little.
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 31
            +5
            The most paradoxical thing is that all the methods that are used by the owners of newspapers, factories, parades are legal and according to our legislation ..... here it is
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 23 June 2020 22: 04
              +1
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              The most paradoxical thing is that all the methods that are used by the owners of newspapers, factories, parades are legal and according to our legislation ..... here it is

              Nothing paradoxical, everyone whom you listed above are sitting in the Duma and are adopting laws for their loved ones .. well, or their protégé .. As children, you’re straight ..
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 35
            +6
            Andrey, well, they won’t fight with themselves.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 23 June 2020 20: 50
          +2
          Quote: NordUral
          You'd better ask the oligarchs how they evade taxes. An interesting novel would be.

          I think this is a question for GDP.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 23 June 2020 23: 56
            +1
            And the "guarantor" has already said everything. There will be no re-privatization and everything suits him. Minor flaws only need to be corrected, someday.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 00: 18
        0
        Quote: 4ekist
        And you are aware that half the country (tenants, self-employed hucksters, jacks of all trades, large and small businesses, etc.) do not pay taxes or pay extra. Do you pay it yourself?

        Let the Deripaska and Abramovich pay.
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 20
      +2
      You look wider, many middle-class businessmen earn more and these are not oligarchs
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 23
        13
        I look wider. Round trip. But for now, only about one thing I will say that above 13% - the scale has practically remained flat for super-profits. And this despite the fact that these superprofits successfully evade taxation.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 26
          -6
          The road begins with the first step, you see, it’s better gradually than again, as some time ago everything was in the shade
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 23 June 2020 18: 36
            +6
            It would be all right if this road did not stretch for 20 years.
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 37
            +8
            What a step, Andrey! The step is to lie about not raising the retirement age.
            1. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 39
              -6
              Let's not talk about retirement, we did it, disgusting, disgusting, but what now, and steps for 20 years .. slowly, not enough, yes, something could have been done earlier, more efficiently done, but there are as they are, there are no ideal leaders, ideal decisions too
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 43
                10
                And I think that the "guarantor" is really an effective manager, not ours, but the West.
                How much he and his team of thieves ruined in two decades, Yeltsin would have been enough for half a century, if not more, of this work.
                And in the last year, it’s so simple a jerk.
                1. Andrey VOV
                  Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 49
                  -5
                  I don’t agree with your point of view, I don’t see the point of discussing, we are in different positions, and different opinions, age and so on, which is also good, the difference of views is good, and the truth is, as always, somewhere in between
                  1. NordUral
                    NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 57
                    +7
                    I agree, Andrey. And rightly so, beliefs in five minutes are changed only by those who did not have them.
                    I accepted perestroika as a staunch opponent of what was happening in the country since the mid-70s. He was a little cooked at the bottom of this power by a deputy, he had seen enough of the servants of the people nearby.
                    From the 89th he plunged into his own business and did not notice anything, only in the 96th after the first ruin he saw a white light with relatively normal eyes. But even then he did not vote for Zyuganov, as well as for Yeltsin.
                    Then a series of ups and downs, again it was not up to politics. He began to vote a few years ago. And I will do it to the end. It is scary for children and grandchildren to leave this.
                    1. Andrey VOV
                      Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 19: 19
                      +2
                      I am younger than you, but the 90s drank along the very nostrils, even higher, with marks until the end of days
                      1. NordUral
                        NordUral 23 June 2020 19: 37
                        +3
                        Sorry, Andrew! Me and my generation passed mainly Afghanistan and Chechnya, I was lucky. Yes, and the 90s, especially the first half of them went into a frenzy of work - their own business. I thought then - a little more and the country will rise and we all. And he didn’t notice anything, it came when after the ruin a dash fell. And then again in business and only in retirement and free time I began to delve into what and how. And it became sad for the future of the country and our people. I feel sorry for the children and grandchildren. And they don’t even think, or maybe just don’t talk about their future. I don’t know what will happen, only everything is alarming. And this is not an old age fear of the future, I am a stubborn person, but it is already impossible not to see the blackness of the horizon.
                  2. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 23 June 2020 20: 55
                    +3
                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    I don’t agree with your point of view, I don’t see any reason to discuss, we are in different positions, and different opinions, age and so on

                    Interesting opinion, age position, etc. But with all this, a person worked his whole life, you need to let him live at least humanly, well, at least as in the Tribaltics. Really he did not deserve it.
                    1. Andrey VOV
                      Andrey VOV 24 June 2020 07: 24
                      0
                      And who is against it? I am only for people working, serving in old age to live with dignity
          3. basmach
            basmach 23 June 2020 18: 39
            +6
            Yeah, we’ve been walking for 20 years. We walk so broadly that more than one pants is already torn.
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 23 June 2020 18: 44
          +1
          Interesting and how? If income taxes are paid and they are higher than 13%. And personal income tax is levied on dividends of shareholders. If money is not in cash, it is impossible to pay in our system, everything is automated. And in cash, it just operates, let's say, those who work in black and steal your money without paying taxes.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 23 June 2020 19: 00
            +9
            Most oligarchs do not pay taxes in the Russian Federation, Andrei. And that is a fact.
            And even those that pay are tears.
            1. Vrungeli
              Vrungeli 23 June 2020 21: 00
              -2
              Quote: NordUral
              Most oligarchs do not pay taxes in the Russian Federation, Andrei. And that is a fact.
              And even those that pay are tears.

              Well, Khodor paid everything .. And then he filed a lawsuit against 50 lard of Russia! Like he earned them)))) And how many more
            2. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 24 June 2020 07: 26
              0
              Well, compared to what they should, Lisin, as a person controlling a foreign legal entity, paid 3 yards to the budget of the Lipetsk region ... really rubles
  11. Unemployed
    Unemployed 23 June 2020 17: 59
    +5
    Quote: Deniska999
    There, with this tax, the trick is that only that part of the income that exceeds 5 million is subject to an increased rate. People are trying to appease. It is good for sick children, but raising the rate by 2 pp is ridiculous.

    Sechin is now terribly offended. Sheer ruin!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 34
      -1
      Well, the fact that Sechin and other top managers of state-owned companies will be lowered their salaries to 30 million, they don’t add any joy to them, and they also add to this a tax on the annual percentage of a million on deposits from banks and another 15% of the amount withdrawn from the country.
  12. Unemployed
    Unemployed 23 June 2020 18: 03
    12
    Quote: Michael m
    But we, unlike many, managed to avoid a dramatic jump in unemployment.

    You - yes, but to us ... I would try the guarantor at my age to find a job.

    Verify the truth. It's a shame - knowledge, experience, education, health are. And after answering a question about age, they hang up ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 23 June 2020 18: 25
      10
      Quote: Unemployed
      And after answering a question about age, they hang up ...

      They say more culturally, "We will contact you", and after that, no answer, no hello.
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 23 June 2020 18: 39
        +4
        Add the factor of nepotism and bribery here.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 00: 54
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        They say more culturally "We will contact you"

        Or: "You don't suit us."
        - Why not?
        - Eeee ..... On a head of cabbage.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 20: 15
      +3
      I don’t know what they are guided by. I, personally, would rather take on the work of an old experienced wolf than a young puppy, which is still to be taught and taught.
  13. Region68
    Region68 23 June 2020 18: 04
    19
    Voting is on the nose .. That's it and splurges .. Like in the year 18 .. Before the elections, I talked about missiles in 27 misses and after the elections patched up the pension reform and the increase of VAT
  14. anjey
    anjey 23 June 2020 18: 11
    +2
    Vladimir Putin proposed starting January 1 next year to increase personal income tax from 13 to 15 percent for those citizens whose annual income exceeds 5 million rubles.
    Gentlemen, the ice has broken slightly.laughing .
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 38
      10
      This is not ice, but we set off, and almost forty years as already.
  15. dgonni
    dgonni 23 June 2020 18: 16
    +6
    The ideas are not bad. But what does the constitution have to do with it? Or is it impossible to steer the economy without amending it?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 23 June 2020 18: 27
      +9
      Without 400 it is possible, but without two, very inconspicuous, well, no way.
  16. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 23 June 2020 18: 17
    +9
    I thank everyone who responded to calls for help. But for such work, special funds are needed.
    And how many swindlers and hives can stick to these funds. If you take how many good undertakings, these funds have been spoiled, and they will still be bawled. Remember how crooks and crooks stuck to the Afghans fund. What better will these funds ???
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 37
      -7
      He has competitors for the Leaders of Russia - he will take the personnel reserve from there.
      1. Alf
        Alf 23 June 2020 19: 04
        +7
        Quote: Vadim237
        He has competitors for the Leaders of Russia - he will take the personnel reserve from there.

        What prevented them from taking them earlier? And who put them there, into this reserve, who took them like that?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 20
          -1
          Ask at your leisure what kind of competition it is, who participates in it and all the information - so as not to ask questions.
          1. Alf
            Alf 24 June 2020 00: 21
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Ask at your leisure what kind of competition it is, who participates in it and all the information - so as not to ask questions.

            Apparently, there is nothing to tell you ...
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 23 June 2020 18: 41
      +5
      Wherever the smell of money sticks crooks of the federal, regional, local levels and just bandits.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 June 2020 21: 04
        +4
        Quote: 4ekist
        Wherever the smell of money sticks crooks of the federal, regional, local levels and just bandits.

        The crook has always been in Russia, since the time of the tsars. Joseph Stalin crushed them, but under Nikitka they got out again, and now they are kicked out like kittens from a cat.
        1. Polente the Wanderer
          Polente the Wanderer 23 June 2020 23: 42
          +1
          Julie was always with Ioska too
        2. Polente the Wanderer
          Polente the Wanderer 23 June 2020 23: 44
          0
          Dzhugashvili's crooks lived better than the so-called "enemies of the people"
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 00: 56
            0
            Quote: Wanderer Polente
            Dzhugashvili's crooks lived better than the so-called "enemies of the people"

            Who exactly?
  17. yfast
    yfast 23 June 2020 18: 18
    +6
    Quote: Thrifty
    And the rise in prices only indicates that the authorities simply ignore this very rise in prices!

    Nabiulina said that inflation is very low, how not to believe it?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 38
      -7
      Is 5% high for you? And pricing for everything has been speculators running for a long time.
      1. Alf
        Alf 23 June 2020 19: 05
        +7
        Quote: Vadim237
        And pricing for everything has been speculators running for a long time.

        And who allowed this state of affairs, or rather, who created this situation?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 21
          -2
          Market economy - speculators rule in it, but you did not know - this is the case all over the world.
          1. Alf
            Alf 24 June 2020 00: 25
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            Market economy - speculators rule in it, but you did not know - this is the case all over the world.

            And who was it so hard to implement, shouting that a planned economy is ineffective?
  18. ender
    ender 23 June 2020 18: 18
    +6
    - Comrades! - continued Ostap. - I need immediate help! We must tear the children from the tenacious paws of the street, and we will tear them out of there! Let's help the children! Let us remember that children are the flowers of life. I invite you to make your contributions now and help the children. Only children, and no one else. Do you understand me?

    Ostap pulled out an identity card and a receipt from his side pocket.

    “I'll ask you to make contributions.” Ippolit Matveyevich will confirm my authority (c)
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 23 June 2020 18: 23
      +4
      - Comrades! - continued Ostap. - I need immediate help! We must tear the children from the tenacious paws of the street, and we will tear them out of there!

      Meanwhile, somewhere in Russia ...

      Five screaming babies without parents were found in a Moscow apartment. The youngest of them is six days old, the oldest is four months old.
      However, the Baza publication in its Telegram channel reports that there was a Chinese nanny with the children.
      Baza said that the children were supposedly born as surrogate mothers for Chinese citizens, however, due to restrictions imposed due to coronavirus, babies had to be left in Russia.


      https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/23/mlad/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 25
        0
        And where does Putin?
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 23 June 2020 18: 26
          +7
          And where does Putin?


          And nothing to do with it.
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 29
            -2
            And why then is this news?
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 23 June 2020 18: 34
              +7
              And why then is this news?

              For objectivity.
              On TV, everything is calm in Baghdad, but in real life, the Chinese in Russia order children to see their birth problems.
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 36
                0
                If a Chinese nanny is not necessarily to China, alas, this is not only with us and we must deal with this
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 23 June 2020 18: 37
                  +4
                  If a Chinese nanny is not necessarily to China, alas, this is not only with us and we must deal with this

                  Just as it should. We don’t know exactly why they order them.
                  1. Andrey VOV
                    Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 42
                    0
                    Well, at one time in Europe and the Americas it was possible to adopt Asian children, but now Asian Europeans, Black are tilting whites and so on
  19. GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 23 June 2020 18: 20
    +3
    By the way, no one noticed that recently the number of minusers of people criticizing the authorities in likes has shifted from plus to minus, a month or two such a trend ... well, an interesting trend ... sorry for the tautology wassat
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 23 June 2020 19: 21
      +2
      By the way, no one noticed that recently the number of minusers of people criticizing the authorities in likes has shifted from plus to minus, a month or two such a trend ... well, an interesting trend ... sorry for the tautology

      There is such a thing - loss of confidence ...
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 June 2020 12: 53
        +1
        There is such a thing - loss of confidence ...
        Only someone confidently winds up votes here for the authorities, I’m talking about this.
    2. sg7s
      sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 08
      +1
      I apologize, I barely mastered ... You wanted to say - the number of people criticizing the authorities has increased? So ? (Well, write easier .... Not everyone understands ...)
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 June 2020 12: 55
        +2
        Quote: sg7s
        I apologize, I barely mastered ... You wanted to say - the number of people criticizing the authorities has increased? So ? (Well, write easier .... Not everyone understands ...)

        I was a little drunk, forgive me ... I mean that someone is strenuously winding up votes for power, before I saw this only on "VZGLYAD" ...
  20. evgen1221
    evgen1221 23 June 2020 18: 20
    +3
    He proposed to increase personal income tax and introduced a higher rate are two different things. So far, he only promised once again.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 June 2020 18: 41
      -3
      Almost all have fulfilled the previous tax orders and payments - what will prevent them from fulfilling?
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 23 June 2020 18: 47
        +3
        it was about removing skins from disenfranchised people, and this concerns a more toothy audience, but how to hide income while sticking out your fortune and whining that small pearls will give our 100 points ahead. The measure is of course useful, but it was necessary to introduce it in 2000 or 2014 in the wake of the euphoria from the Crimea, which sobs so many people expected, they received a VAT payer pension, and lo and behold a promise and most importantly so in time for the amendment personally necessary for Mr. PZ. .
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 27
          -1
          A more toothy audience was recently introduced a tax on interest on income of bank deposits of more than a million rubles, as well as a 15% tax on money to be withdrawn from the country and state managers reduced their salaries to 30 million - and now nothing will prevent me from increasing personal income tax by 2%, the first and last concern me - And how.
  21. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 18: 24
    -3
    Dear "the most hungry and disadvantaged commentators" You will already decide whether something is being done badly, not being done badly either ...
  22. Radikal
    Radikal 23 June 2020 18: 35
    +7
    Quote: 4ekist
    Exactly. Something is not visible to the work of the authorities for economic security and tax collection. Bad thoughts come to mind. But from those working in white and earning 10-12 thousand, they deduct everything as expected. After all, pensioners work to mend their "holes" in the family budget at least a little.

    Why are you "chekists" - are you not modifying? winked lol wassat
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 23 June 2020 18: 46
    12
    We decided to add coal to the PR furnace before voting. After Herr Navalny a couple of times talked about the topic of sick children, on which billions of state channels and super-wealthy actors had already simply evaporated the little ones, where they must have apparently creaked with gears and gave birth to "like a tax on the rich" and a margin from it for children. For 20 years it was hard to come up with such a complicated thing ..
    1. Alf
      Alf 23 June 2020 19: 08
      +9
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      For 20 years it was hard to come up with such a complicated thing ..

      "They" simply did not know anything and did not hear about sick children. And now they heard and their hearts were filled with sadness, and their heads with anger ...
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 23 June 2020 19: 52
        11
        And how do you like the tsiferka?) 2% add. tax on personal income persons ONLY WITH INCOME OVER 5 million per year - will bring to the budget, according to their estimates, 60 billion per year.
        Virgin Mary, what kind of horse, wild grandmothers walk in our economy, if 2% of income per year is above 5 million (we do not have many people have an income of even 3 million per year) - in total, they gain 60 Lard for the year. 1% it began to be 30 lard, 10% it was 300 lard, 100% it was 3 trillion O_O
        We have somewhere among 140 million people, most of which are difficult to classify even as the middle class (even according to the president’s classification, with these same 17 per person), people lurked, whose total income for the year (only official) exceeds 000 trillion (! !!) rubles, despite the fact that only income OVER 3 million per year is taken into account.

        There is no money, but you hold on)) There is definitely an occasion to reflect on what amounts of (declared) incomes of super-rich people burned this sweet news ..
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 39
          -1
          In Russia, more than 300000 dollar millionaires and 120 billionaires - these additional 2% of personal income tax will be removed from them, including me.
  24. yfast
    yfast 23 June 2020 18: 46
    +5
    Quote: Vadim237
    Is 5% high for you? And pricing for everything has been speculators running for a long time.

    Some products have risen in price by 20% -30%. Last year, tomatoes all summer were 2-3 times more expensive than the year before last, which is 100%. Something did not rise at all, but who eats it? You can’t eat 24/7 cheaper sugar. So 5% is from the evil one, like the temperature in the hospital. In some packages, the goods have become much less% (hidden inflation). I do not know much about shoes and clothes. We are not considering the cost of tanks.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 30
      -2
      Prices do not depend much on inflation — they depend on speculators in everything.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 02
      0
      Quote: yfast
      I do not know much about shoes and clothes.

      Socks were 20, steel 40.
  25. Free wind
    Free wind 23 June 2020 18: 59
    +2
    Direct appeal at 17 hours. And the appeal at 15. on the watch there are arrows. In principle, I have a watch, somewhat more accurate, it's been around 50 years already.
  26. FRoman1984
    FRoman1984 23 June 2020 19: 00
    +4
    That's it, we’ll live now.
    We will stop throwing off the whole country for operations for children, we will keep 2% off the "rich". Before that, there was no money, after all, we keep trillions in reserves.
    Hypocrisy.
    And all for the sake of one goal, to stay in power yet.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 35
      -2
      There was always money for the treatment of children, but in order to get this money, you need to apply for benefits and this time - through SMS two times and you're ready, but the state cannot give money to anyone without getting into it because many crooks are grazing on the treatment of children.
      1. FRoman1984
        FRoman1984 24 June 2020 05: 35
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        There was always money for the treatment of children, but in order to get this money, you need to apply for benefits and this time - through SMS two times and you're ready, but the state cannot give money to anyone without getting into it because many crooks are grazing on the treatment of children.

        Vadim, this is not so. If it was all about the laziness of the parents, there would be no questions about the current situation. Absolutely. But I do not believe that when the life of a child is at stake, the father or mother will "break off" documents to submit somewhere. On paper, everything is really free, but in fact there is no money, then the qualifications of specialists are not enough, then there is no equipment in the hospital.
  27. purple
    purple 23 June 2020 19: 07
    -1
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Raise immediately all will begin to hide. And interfere. It always happens. Tactically so correct.

    now you can’t hide ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 23 June 2020 19: 14
      +4
      Quote: purple
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Raise immediately all will begin to hide. And interfere. It always happens. Tactically so correct.

      now you can’t hide ...

      And they don’t hide it. Why hide, if you can pass laws and do it absolutely legally.
  28. purple
    purple 23 June 2020 19: 12
    -4
    Quote: yfast
    Quote: Vadim237
    Is 5% high for you? And pricing for everything has been speculators running for a long time.

    Some products have risen in price by 20% -30%. Last year, tomatoes all summer were 2-3 times more expensive than the year before last, which is 100%. Something did not rise at all, but who eats it? You can’t eat 24/7 cheaper sugar. So 5% is from the evil one, like the temperature in the hospital. In some packages, the goods have become much less% (hidden inflation). I do not know much about shoes and clothes. We are not considering the cost of tanks.

    but now cucumbers and tomatoes are 2 times cheaper than in the past ... stop whining, the prices depend on a lot ... including he such alarmists ... who buckwheat rushed sugar and toilet paper from the shelves ... so the prices and have grown. Ginger true 3500 is now less than 200
    1. Alf
      Alf 23 June 2020 19: 36
      +6
      Quote: purple
      prices depend on a lot ...

      First and foremost, the greed of the seller and his shamelessness. Although, what conscience can a businessman have?
      Quote: purple
      including he such alarmists ..

      As usual, the people are to blame.
      And why, in the very first days, our valiant government, headed by Himself, not go ahead and quickly pass a law banning price increases throughout the chain?
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 03
      +2
      Quote: purple
      but now cucumbers and tomatoes are 2 times cheaper than in the past ...

      Give the prices.
      1. Alf
        Alf 24 June 2020 13: 15
        +1
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: purple
        but now cucumbers and tomatoes are 2 times cheaper than in the past ...

        Give the prices.

        In Samara, tomato prices range from 107 to 150 wooden. If you believe the purple colleague, then last year they should have cost from 200 to 300 rubles, which contradicts reality.
  29. nikvic46
    nikvic46 23 June 2020 19: 14
    11
    It’s hard for me, a senior citizen, to understand a few things. Tomorrow is the Victory Parade of the Soviet Union over Nazi Germany. And on television they show some anti-Soviet films. Why would it be? I watched a debate between political scientists about the difference in salaries. Opponents of the tax scale all the time rely on the exorbitant work of the rich. You listen to them, and immediately the thought arises, and that abroad billionaires are just freeloaders? They can pay taxes 35-70%, but for some reason you can’t. You can take vodka, tobacco. They are selling clearly well above cost. Earlier this money went to subsidies for children. A lot is not clear.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 23 June 2020 19: 25
      +1
      Why, now here is the Liberation of Ozerov going through the first channel, and where are the anti-Soviet?
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 24 June 2020 05: 54
        +1
        Andrey: In addition to the first channel, there are two dozen other channels. And if you watch Tricolor, then much more. I try to watch Soviet films, but they are shown only on holidays. And before the holiday "Zuleikha opens her eyes", "Son of the father of nations" and more.
  30. Rzzz
    Rzzz 23 June 2020 19: 17
    +4
    Aw, sly man!
    "A 15% rate will apply to income above 5 million."
    That is, in general, you can count - almost no difference. Before the introduction of the "flat scale", the progress from zero was considered.
    But there will be a lot of noise and pathos, of course.
    1. Vrungeli
      Vrungeli 23 June 2020 20: 28
      -2
      Quote: rzzz
      Aw, sly man!
      "A 15% rate will apply to income above 5 million."
      That is, in general, you can count - almost no difference. Before the introduction of the "flat scale", the progress from zero was considered.
      But there will be a lot of noise and pathos, of course.

      Cunning of course ..))) Here you need to put a couple of oligarchs with confiscation .. "They know why, and Volodya also knows and more than that ..
      And so all this is trifles .. Vaughn Hodor has sued Russia 50 billion .. Are payments coming? Because international law prevails on Russian law .. So in the EBN "constitution" it is written .. Who else wants our territory?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 07
        +2
        Quote: Vrungeli
        Because international law prevails on Russian law .. So in the EBN "constitution" it is written ..

        Vitali, do not drive the blizzard. Nothing is written there.
        Quote: Vrungeli
        Who else wants our territory there?

        You just read the corrections, and not looked at the box?
    2. sg7s
      sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 49
      +2
      The first sensible comment about the JACKS progressive scale! (People, well, French, take for examples - mathematics of the 8th grade of high school), everything is available (too lazy to copy here ...)
  31. TAMBU
    TAMBU 23 June 2020 19: 31
    +3
    - Citizens! - said Ostap, opening the meeting. - Life dictates its own laws, its own cruel laws. I will not tell you about the purpose of our meeting - you know it. The goal is holy. We hear groans from everywhere. From all corners of our vast country they are crying for help. We must lend a helping hand, and we will. Some of you serve and eat bread and butter, others are engaged in the side trade and eat sandwiches with caviar. Both of them sleep in their beds and cover themselves with warm blankets. Only small children, homeless, are without a patron. These flowers of the street, or, as the proletarians of mental labor put it, flowers on the asphalt, deserve a better fate. We, gentlemen of the jury, must help them. And we, gentlemen of the jury, will help them. (c) "12 chairs" (1927).
  32. Oleg_ru
    Oleg_ru 23 June 2020 19: 45
    +6
    If an increase in personal income tax to 15% from revenues of more than 5 million rubles per year will give the budget about 60 billion rubles per year.

    It turns out that Putin misled citizens in his appeal to citizens in 2018 about the need to raise the retirement age, significantly underestimating up to 75 - 120 billion rubles a year from raising income tax to 20% from high incomes (and in 2018 they started from 1 million rubles per year - by the value of the marginal base of insurance premiums in the PFR, and in 2020, high incomes start from 1,292 million rubles per year). In order to protect the financial interests of the rich, to the detriment of ordinary citizens (people).
    Link to Putin’s appeal about the need to raise the retirement age https://rg.ru/2018/08/29/stenogramma-o-chem-rasskazal-vladimir-putin-v-teleobrashchenii-k-rossiianam.html
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 41
      0
      60 billion conditional figure - real can be significantly higher.
  33. Pup1
    Pup1 23 June 2020 19: 57
    0
    The parade will hold and at rest .... it's time to think no 10 no longer buy ..
  34. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 June 2020 20: 04
    -3
    How many people are dissatisfied with their lives. And Putin is to blame for everything! Have you tried to start on your own? The government doesn’t take a boarding house. I also want to live better, my life is expensive. I’m from Sochi. They don’t throw money from helicopters. two works to work. To ensure prosperity for his family. Not noah. As the Spaniards say Mucho Trobaho. And do not lose my sense of humor.
    1. Alf
      Alf 23 June 2020 20: 37
      +8
      Quote: tralflot1832
      He has to work at two jobs in order to provide wealth to his family.

      And if you work on five jobs, then the family will generally skate like cheese in butter. But you’ll quickly discard the skates ... But please tell me how many works plow Abramovich, Patanin, Deripaska ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 23 June 2020 20: 52
        +2
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: tralflot1832
        He has to work at two jobs in order to provide wealth to his family.

        And if you work on five jobs, then the family will generally skate like cheese in butter. But you’ll quickly discard the skates ... But please tell me how many works plow Abramovich, Patanin, Deripaska ...

        Minimum - somewhere like that))
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 23 June 2020 20: 57
        +2
        I do not know how the Potanins and Abramovich are there, but the businessman of the middle hand is a man wound to disgrace. From dawn to dusk.
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 23 June 2020 21: 06
        -1
        I have two, because I’m a specialist. I’m not particularly worried. The income is normal, as I wish for you. Up to a heap, a pensioner with a well-deserved pension of 50 years, thanks to GDP with a normal pension.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 15
          +1
          Quote: tralflot1832
          on well-deserved retirement from 50 years, thanks to GDP

          Thanks to GDP, you would plow another 15 years.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 24 June 2020 01: 36
            -1
            I’ve been retired since I was 11 years old when I reach 50. It was one of the last retirement decrees for northerners. VVP said when the GDP came to the north, then he said hello.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 41
              +4
              Quote: tralflot1832
              .VVP said when GDP came to the north did

              GDP said 25 million jobs - GDP did not.
              GDP said do not change the constitution - GDP did not do twice.
              GDP said do not raise pensions; GDP did not.
              Continue on? Reluctance, to be honest.
            2. Bongo
              Bongo 24 June 2020 04: 57
              +6
              Quote: tralflot1832
              It was his one of the last retirement orders for the northerners. The GVP said when the GDP came to the north did

              In the north, until recently, they retired from the age of 55. This was from the time of the USSR, and Putin had nothing to do with this issue. No.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 24 June 2020 05: 40
                -1
                I left at 50. The essence of his decree when working out the northern experience can be retired in any region of the country, and not just in the north as in the USSR. When you move to a retirement age from north to south under the USSR, the northern pension was lost. In 2006, this injustice to the northerners was removed.
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 24 June 2020 05: 46
                  +6
                  Well, thanks to him "benefactor". negative But now, up to 60 years in the north, most of the men simply do not survive. If before people traveled to the north and the Far East for high earnings, now many remote territories are simply depopulated.
                  In general, at the age of 55, did you retire in the northern territories, or do you still have "harmful experience"?
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 24 June 2020 07: 11
                    0
                    12.5 clean sea or sea experience. Pension "sea". Now you can not worry about sailors by the age of 50 they will have everything. By friends I judge. They go to sea for a good salary. From $ 2000 per month, since there is a choice. Not Russia abroad.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 13
      +3
      Quote: tralflot1832
      I’m from Sochi. They don’t throw money from helicopters. I have to work at two jobs

      I have an uncle, for 60 years, I've been looking for work for three years, spat, and lives on a pension, since he has a northern experience. How about others? A friend and I, both car mechanics, with experience, sent profiles to the Chinese car factory, no answer, no greetings.
      Quote: tralflot1832
      I do not whine.

      And I do not whine. I howl. laughing
    3. Shefango
      Shefango 24 June 2020 16: 37
      0
      We’ll see if you can’t get under 65
  35. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 23 June 2020 20: 08
    +9
    what can we talk about - this person is just a liar, he lied so many times that there is nowhere to put the sample
  36. We_smart
    We_smart 23 June 2020 20: 25
    +6
    And since 16 years old they don’t feed children, let them take care of themselves?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 00: 44
      -3
      By the way, you can now become self-employed from the age of 16 - in fact, this is the go-ahead to do your own thing.
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 24 June 2020 15: 40
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        By the way, you can now become self-employed from the age of 16 - in fact, this is the go-ahead to do your own thing.

        And what is needed more: to study or to do "your own business"?
  37. 123456789
    123456789 23 June 2020 20: 36
    +6
    They will go to medical care for seriously ill children. For the purchase of expensive drugs.

    And so it became mournful to me, I already burst into tears.
  38. Karabin
    Karabin 23 June 2020 20: 37
    +7
    Whatever the day, the guarantor of a used constitution with gifts. There will give a pretty penny, there is a penny. It will hint about a new rocket, then about the territory. This must be so want to smoothly reset to zero.
  39. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 23 June 2020 20: 50
    +3

    Putin also proposed reducing the tax rate for IT companies to 3%, which, according to him, is even lower than, for example, in Indian jurisdiction.

    This is sensible
  40. bk316
    bk316 23 June 2020 20: 56
    -7
    Something you gentlemen wrestlers essentially keep silent laughing
    Wanted a progressive scale - please.
    This is of course a mockery of you, for 60 yards for the Russian Federation is about nothing.
    The guarantor is just kidding. So sure of the vote.
    Or is it all generally a cover operation. belay


    But the benefits for IT is serious.
    3% NP and 7 insurance, this is just super - well, super for me hi
    It’s necessary to calculate exactly, but personally, I’ll run into a wheelbarrow for a year.
    Minus - I will order a sticker on the rear window: bought for cons. laughing
    1. sg7s
      sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 22
      +6
      Progressive scale - what are you talking about? 3 lemma per year, cool, then you should be aware of what ANY progressive scale is (france, niders, all bini ...) second - vague promises - "I propose" were valid 20 years ago, but with an unpaid old credit of trust we are offered issue a new one with a general drop in the standard of living ... There is complete power - act, you can not, - go aside ... (ANY pension (88%, half a circle works ..) in the Smolensk region - 8.6 thousand (if you have gained experience) - $ 126, 126! ​​What are you talking about 3% of "cool super" improvements? (Yes, will you send a sticker for 2020?)
      1. bk316
        bk316 23 June 2020 21: 36
        -2
        Progressive Scale - What are you talking about?

        So I say "nothing" but formally progressive. laughing

        about what 3 percent "cool-super" improvements you say?

        IT industry Profit tax (it seems you are not in the topic) - from 20% to 3% insurance premiums from 15% to 7%

        you will send a sticker for 2020

        I’ll send a photo of the car. Or are you a colleague and should I order some stickers?
        1. sg7s
          sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 55
          0
          Two are not necessary ... it is too early to change ... Almost, the taxation system does not exist at all in Forex (self-imposed .., or individual entrepreneurs (but we do not fall under IT ..) I missed it "formally", sorry ...
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 17
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      Minus - I will order a sticker on the rear window

      Hold, math pumpkin, you can write on glass - minus from Vovan.
      1. bk316
        bk316 25 June 2020 17: 39
        0
        Hold, math pumpkin, you can write on glass - minus from Vovan.

        Enviously Vova?
  41. sg7s
    sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 02
    +5
    I haven't mastered the whole branch .... as always - "bad" - good ".... My option is none .. I came at oil prices (I won't share, everything is available there) - about $ 15, until 2008 -th price continuously (almost exponentially) rose to 90 (Brent futures - about 147) ... Everything became in Russia - "normal." blah - understandable and predictable .... Words about how - "they say, with others it would be worse" - to appeal only to those who have not passed the 2008s (if someone says to my face - "saints" ....) What's next? Yes, everything is the same as before, nothing depends on you and me ... (I just sometimes envy Ukrainians, our Moscow bigwigs from this scenario (like in the trash can, or to lower Benya twice) - throws it into sweat and horror .. ... Just don't - "Russian revolt", we read it, we know, but it always explodes not quite according to plan (ask the sappers) ....
  42. faterdom
    faterdom 23 June 2020 21: 20
    +8
    Some kind of long and painful treatment.
    No one is to blame, everyone - well done, for ice-cream children, for governors on the roads, for IT professionals, you can leave a profit for yourself (which is already gone), banks - sponsors of the rise in the price of new housing for new mortgage slaves and free help from the state (not for developers, and not buyers - banks!). 5000000r - an indulgence for the withdrawal of any! capital out of the country! Hooray! The income scale is not flat! Although any builder would call a road with a slope of 2% for 5000000 m perfectly flat and even ...
    The rest who is alive: Well done! Hold on! I am proud! Further it will also not be easy! Rally together We optimize medicine again, and then again urgently build it! And what: while there is no epidemic - to empty empty rooms with bunks?
    1. sg7s
      sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 39
      0
      "long", since he is accustomed to communicate and motivate and not to hang tags on Twitter ... "Not flat" - plot a schedule (compare with ANY European one) - two-stage - in your opinion - is it progressive? And in the rest, yes, - Urya-Urya ...
  43. sg7s
    sg7s 23 June 2020 21: 36
    0
    Dashing brother, one question - what to do with this vote? It’s just that if you do something, you have to go, if there’s a chatter for another ban, then figs with them ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 23 June 2020 21: 49
      +2
      Quote: sg7s
      Simply, if you do something, you have to go

      It’s necessary to go, you won’t come, they will set for you.
      1. Million
        Million 23 June 2020 21: 56
        +3
        They will not deliver, but they will calculate, regardless of whether you come or not
        1. Alf
          Alf 23 June 2020 22: 00
          +4
          Quote: Million
          They will not deliver, but they will calculate, regardless of whether you come or not

          At least my conscience will be clear.
  44. Million
    Million 23 June 2020 21: 55
    +4
    I’ll deceive again ... He got into the habit of it
  45. Achilles
    Achilles 23 June 2020 21: 58
    +3
    Quote: Alf
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    Try to find someone else who can do the job of a guarantor.

    Until the 99th year, too, from all the irons they shouted, there was no replacement for Yeltsin, and on New Year's Eve a clap was found and a replacement was found.

    Who was screaming? If you don’t remember, Yeltsin and Zyuganov were on a par with Yeltsin’s second term and who could say that there is no substitute for Yeltsin, whereas I remember everyone said they would remove this drunkard, but not the opposite
  46. Uran53
    Uran53 23 June 2020 22: 01
    +6
    That's how it is. Gasoline prices have gone up, contrary to logic, by the number of oligarchs we came out on top, prices in stores have become horse-drawn, and the Darkest has a very original answer to this: "It was a global recession. A new reality." Krasava! As they say, I found the extreme!
  47. Severok
    Severok 23 June 2020 22: 15
    +5
    I do not believe Putin from the word at all. For he is yap, a populist and a traitor to everything that was created by Soviet scientists, builders, engineers and the people of the Land of Soviets.
  48. Radikal
    Radikal 23 June 2020 22: 25
    +4
    Quote: Vadim237
    That is why there are so many starving people in Russia - Putin gets up throat, especially speaking on TV.

    However, no - this is your guzzling one (at the expense of the rest) 1.0 percent stood up across our throats, speaking on all electric boxes, from irons, and boilers! sad
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 01: 00
      -3
      Anyone in power will get you and all of your people, regardless of whether the new or the old works well or badly - since the brains have been rewound for 30 years in a row, no project is cut, what is not work - everything sucks and so in everything, everything around thieves, swindlers, the system is bad, and the "Knights" themselves are for all good versus all bad - only from these lamentations about the bad power and everything in the circle of efficiency is a little more than nichrome.
  49. INZHENER
    INZHENER 23 June 2020 23: 11
    +1
    Hello everybody. I love to read. I do not comment, but then I decided to insert my five cents, having familiarized myself with many opinions. I will say this. Do all sane forum users sincerely believe that Putin alone rules the country? He is a Gauleiter of occupying Western power. Head of the department in a large company, where the Russian Federation is one of the departments. Everything that is done is agreed with the president of the company. True goals are visible, but this is a topic for a separate discussion, and probably not here. Be realistic. Russia, Ukraine and the rest are in fact occupied. Each department simply has its own goals in the global process. Well it is very short and superficial. Think for yourself. The global elite no longer hides its goals. Conspirology is a thing of the past, reality is next to us. Good to all.
    1. Alf
      Alf 24 June 2020 00: 28
      +3
      Quote: INZHENER
      He is a Gauleiter of occupying Western power. Head of the department in a large company, where the Russian Federation is one of the departments. Everything that is done is agreed with the president of the company.

      Yes, this is already clear to everyone for a long time, except for some stubborn ones who, with foam at the mouth, prove that Putin is the country's leader, leading it to prosper by leaps and bounds.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 01: 06
      -6
      The occupying Western authorities will not impose sanctions against their own people, and they will certainly put their own manager - an American, like Biden’s son in Ukraine — something like this is not observed in Russia. The occupation power of Russia in the 90s passed. Now it definitely doesn’t have it and the IMF is no longer financing Russia.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 24 June 2020 01: 37
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        and their manager will certainly be put in place - an American, like Biden’s son in Ukraine - something like this is not observed in Russia.

        Oga-oga, look who controls Deripaska.
  50. mark2
    mark2 23 June 2020 23: 17
    +1
    Wofka wants to buy our votes, no, he won’t!

    It will come out and go on. And how it goes