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Clash of clans in the Ukrainian Navy: sailors from Crimea are recorded in the "Russian spies"

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In the week, “valiant” SBU employees exposed another “Russian spy”. He was appointed captain of the second rank of the Ukrainian Navy Anatoly Lyulko.


This was reported by the Ukrainian edition of Strana.ua.

Actually, from the Ukrainian naval officers who arrived from Crimea in 2014, Lyulko is far from the only "spy". They are all suspected of espionage and other sins. But how, after all, they still have housing in Crimea, friends, relatives. And some even have wives and children. And if you believe the source of the Ukrainian publication, working in the SBU, a detailed dossier has been opened for each of these naval officers.

Although the option is not ruled out that the clan’s struggle for a “place in the sun” plays a role here, because the Ukrainian navy is small, and a career needs to be done somehow. And if the Crimeans were a priori recorded as suspicious, then competitors from the "Odessa" clan could well take advantage of this and remove the "newcomers" from the Crimea from the road.

The most interesting thing is that the “spy” Lyulko was not only free, but also continued to carry out his duties for some time on his Alexander Okhrimenko emergency rescue vessel. This "vessel" only in 2019 transferred to the navy. And in a past life, it was called "Svetlomor-4" and was on the balance of the Black Sea Shipping Company. The device of this “miracle of technology” and the tasks it performs can hardly be called secret. It was built back in 1987, and has since undergone several major repairs.

This year, in addition to Lyulko, the captain of the first rank Goncharenko, also a native of the Crimea, was also charged with espionage. Now both of them are at large, however, they were temporarily removed from their posts and from access to state secrets. At the same time, they were not dismissed from service, so that officers, as before, receive their salary.

This suggests that the SBU has no evidence against them. But this can be a signal for all Ukrainian naval officers who served in the Crimea in 2014 and did not want to transfer to the Russian Navy. They are clearly hinted that if they do not quit on their own, making room for the young, they will also be made "Russian spies."
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  1. antivirus
    antivirus 23 June 2020 16: 14 New
    +7
    I am happy for them - intense, military (or combat) service. and Volynians will trample Odessa from the Navy's outskirts when? Another clan appeared
    1. knn54
      knn54 23 June 2020 18: 13 New
      +2
      I will not say the title, BUT:
      A native of the Lviv region (border guard) 5 years ago SPECIFICALLY sent relatives (including from the Kharkov region) and remained in the Crimea.
      Yesterday's migrant workers are in power, or not worse than with Ivan Pan.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 23 June 2020 16: 18 New
    -1
    The only relevant news for today ...
    1. Vrungeli
      Vrungeli 23 June 2020 17: 19 New
      -3
      Quote: parusnik
      The only relevant news for today ...

      laughing It's funny to read the truth ..!
      1. Ragnar Lodbrok
        Ragnar Lodbrok 23 June 2020 17: 28 New
        +6
        How is this irrelevant? Chetamukhakhlov is more important than what is happening in his own country.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 23 June 2020 17: 28 New
      -5
      Do not forget the slogan - "Not a day without Ukraine"!))) ...
  3. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 23 June 2020 16: 21 New
    18
    I suppose that these officers are not needed in the Russian fleet either.
    Previously, you had to think with your head, not with your sciatic muscle.
  4. Avior
    Avior 23 June 2020 16: 30 New
    -6
    What kind of tradition went into - articles must be double-checked necessarily.
    This is not good, I want the other way around, with the help of others to check
    As for cap2 Lyulko, the following is known.
    1. Secretly went to the Crimea, without officially reporting the trip, as it should be.
    2 issued a Russian passport, which was safely seized from him during his arrest.
    3 planned to quit. From the service.
    But he collected information just like that, or it’s not easy to prove for transmission, it’s true
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 23 June 2020 16: 57 New
      +1
      So what's wrong? Is there a schionage? Not proven. So the prosecution on this topic is unfounded. Without iron evidence, let me tell you that you are a spy of the Mamba-Yumba tribe and I will inform everyone about this in the media? They will not wash off and careers are over. This is called generally the complete lack of pros in this structure and a bunch of cormorants who give out charges simply because they so wanted. You do not run into our media and take normal people to work there.
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2020 17: 00 New
        -4
        It follows from the text of your post that you did not read mine.
        Try again.
        On points 123, or something
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 17: 23 New
          +2
          I can read very well. All the same, you should familiarize yourself with the interpretation of the term espionage. Dismissal, trip and passport. That is all that man has done. Or simply, first prove the fact of espionage and then trumpet the detention.
          1. Avior
            Avior 23 June 2020 18: 59 New
            -5
            Prove in court, if you do not know, and draw up the result in the form of a sentence.
            When detaining, evidence of guilt is not necessary, justified insight is sufficient.
            And there it is. He transferred to foreign citizenship while in the service
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 23 June 2020 19: 06 New
              +3
              Espionage is an action. Which has certain signs. The presence of a passport of a widespread state in Ukraine is not uncommon. Will you close everyone?)
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 23 June 2020 19: 14 New
                +7
                Quote: carstorm 11
                The presence of a passport of a widespread state in Ukraine is not uncommon.

                And some have more than one passport. smile
              2. Avior
                Avior 24 June 2020 22: 19 New
                -2
                What, there are examples when an incumbent officer illegally transferred to the citizenship of another country and left to serve anyone without mentioning it?
      2. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 23 June 2020 17: 45 New
        +2
        There was no court yet, so he was not found guilty, it is only suspected .. and if the navy of the Russian Federation had found cap2, who had recently received Ukrainian citizenship, I also would not have patted it on the head ..
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 23 June 2020 17: 49 New
          +2
          By itself. But to us, as it is customary, first all the same the fact of espionage is first revealed. Carry out operational work. Record meetings and the transfer of something. Seize it. Nobody says that this is impossible. It's all about the sequence of actions. Article is tough
          1. Avior
            Avior 23 June 2020 19: 01 New
            -6
            Like when
            It happens in different ways.
            So far he has been removed from service for changing citizenship, this in itself is enough
    2. Mitroha
      Mitroha 23 June 2020 17: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      What kind of tradition went into - articles must be double-checked necessarily.
      This is not good, I want the other way around, with the help of others to check
      As for cap2 Lyulko, the following is known.

      Tell me, how do you know? Why should we believe your information?
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2020 17: 19 New
        -2
        Very simple
        I typed in Google the name and the name of the ship, and Google issued a packet of messages in Ukraine on this topic
        After reviewing them, I was convinced that only part of the information was taken into the article above from these messages, including the article referred to in the country, too, it says that he received a Russian passport.
        But such subtleties did not get into this article.
        As for me, the Russian transition is an important nuance for understanding the situation
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/thebabel.com.ua/v/s/thebabel.com.ua/amp/news/45426-sbu-zatrimala-komandira-boyovogo-korablya-yakiy-shpiguvav-na-korist-rosiji%3famp_js_v=0.1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%253D#ampf=

        https://amp.strana.ua/news/274593-kak-sbu-vyzhivaet-iz-ukrainskoho-flota-urozhentsev-kryma.html
        hi
        1. Kuzmitsky
          24 June 2020 16: 53 New
          +1
          Lyulko has a Russian passport - he is a spy. Is logical. But Goncharenko does not have a Russian passport, but he is also a spy. Apparently, this is not a passport.
          1. Avior
            Avior 24 June 2020 17: 56 New
            -3
            Goncharenko is a spy only in your article
            Nobody accused him of espionage, serves in his place, where he served
            1. Kuzmitsky
              24 June 2020 21: 51 New
              0
              Not just mine. Strana.ua Goncharenko also mentioned. It seems like he collected information about the mood in the fleet and about the personnel with the aim of transmitting the FSB. Why not spying? And the fact that he is free - so what? Lyulko, too, no one was arrested, if not mistaken.
              1. Avior
                Avior 24 June 2020 22: 35 New
                -1
                not at large, but at the position
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 23 June 2020 19: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Mitroha
        Quote: Avior
        What kind of tradition went into - articles must be double-checked necessarily.
        This is not good, I want the other way around, with the help of others to check
        As for cap2 Lyulko, the following is known.

        Tell me, how do you know? Why should we believe your information?

        ===
        responsible for Ukraine
    3. svp67
      svp67 23 June 2020 17: 12 New
      +6
      Quote: Avior
      But he collected information just like that, or it’s not easy to prove for transmission, it’s true

      And did you collect at all?
      Quote: Avior
      What kind of tradition went into - articles must be double-checked necessarily.

      Actually, this is infa from the Ukrainian agency "country.ua"
      And if he really was going to quit, then it’s clear that he went to where he had at least something ... at least a living space.
      1. Avior
        Avior 23 June 2020 19: 02 New
        -4
        He didn’t keep a Russian passport with him.
        As for the collection of information, this is punishable in itself.
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 23 June 2020 19: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: Avior
          Russian passport he did not keep with himself a great mind.
          As for the collection of information, this is punishable in itself.

          ===
          such an interesting spy, runs with a passport of the Russian Federation, travels to the Crimea "secretly"
          1. oldzek
            oldzek 23 June 2020 20: 16 New
            +2
            And his name is not Benya Kolomoisky, ah, ah, ah how to have a bad passport. I want to go where I want to. I must remember: what can Jupiter do, then a simple bull LOWER!
        2. svp67
          svp67 23 June 2020 20: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Avior
          As for the collection of information, this is punishable in itself.

          Is this PROVEN?
          1. Avior
            Avior 24 June 2020 17: 53 New
            -1
            And how
            If there is evidence, photos of documents, some objects, etc.
            1. svp67
              svp67 24 June 2020 18: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Avior
              If there is evidence, photo of documents

              Write to your beloved woman?
              Quote: Avior
              some objects

              Projects of country cottages?
  5. ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 23 June 2020 16: 35 New
    +2
    The Ukrainian political theater does not need officers, they need killers without shame and conscience, they are already 6 years in a row, they are changing the officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. All this boils down to one last attempt, after which Ukraine as a state will cease to exist. And with her, some surrounding countries ..
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 23 June 2020 16: 48 New
    +2
    The option is not considered as two pensions? I served in Ukraine, I received a pension from an independent one. I moved to Russia and then I earned or got an citizenship of Russia. None. Unas in Tralflot was full of such cases from Ukrainians. Ukrainians sir, what to expect from them.
    1. Avior
      Avior 23 June 2020 17: 20 New
      -4
      He obtained citizenship while on active duty
  7. paul72
    paul72 23 June 2020 17: 03 New
    +4
    - big boules, dido, how are the hounds picking up?
    - Healthy, Mr. American Shpien.
    - Didu, but as soon as I realized that I was a pan American shpien?
    “Yes, you niggas, American spies.”
  8. 30143
    30143 23 June 2020 17: 05 New
    -5
    Oh, how complicated it is!
    This discussion resembles from the category of OBS (one woman said).
    Condemn? I think low and mean.
    Once already gone through this in the Civil War. Who does not remember, then recall. There were officers who went to the Red Army, and there were those who went to the White. How many slops poured on the White Guards?
    And after 90 years, they began to sing other songs.
    This situation is no different. Time will put everything in its place. And everyone will get their own rating. And we, I believe, have no right to discuss or hate them.
    I would look at you all, what choice you would make!
    1. venik
      venik 23 June 2020 19: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: 30143
      Once already gone through this in the Civil War. Who does not remember, then recall.

      ========
      Oh my God! belay Do you REMEMBER the Civil War ??? what
      Share a secret the!!! lol
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  10. Russ
    Russ 23 June 2020 17: 26 New
    +2
    Chu ... there every third, the second is the "Russian shpien" ... wink
  11. DeKo
    DeKo 23 June 2020 17: 48 New
    +1
    This is Ukraine, baby
  12. Poetry
    Poetry 23 June 2020 18: 21 New
    +1
    I would not be surprised if it becomes known that they were exposed by a brilliant virtuoso, darned Gordon.
  13. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 23 June 2020 18: 30 New
    +1
    And besides, scary Russian spies are sitting in the SBU itself))) a week ago in Kuyev they detained the SBU general from the ATC, to call this the Bandera-Fascist cullion “Alpha” - the hand does not rise. It should be understood that some young and promising colonel needed the general position.
  14. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 June 2020 18: 42 New
    0
    But this can be a signal for all Ukrainian naval officers who served in the Crimea in 2014 and did not want to transfer to the Russian Navy.
    There they are dear. The main thing is that our people in the Headquarters do not quarrel, feel sorry for the poor and do not take them to service. (Russian passport will also be issued for work in the specialty) request
  15. iouris
    iouris 23 June 2020 18: 51 New
    0
    Well, let animal advocates intervene, sorry, "human rights."
  16. major147
    major147 23 June 2020 20: 46 New
    +5
    Last week, “valiant” SBU employees exposed another “Russian spy”

    I can understand the SBU here. What normal sailor from the Crimea can choose the Ukrainian “fleet” of his own free will when it is possible to serve in the Russian fleet? Or dur-ak or spy!
    1. Leading
      Leading 23 June 2020 23: 32 New
      +2
      I have long been waiting for all these fools to be thrown out of the fleet when time passes and the frenzy of "real patriots did not serve under the heel of the invader." 6 years is enough time to start cleaning.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 24 June 2020 06: 43 New
      +2
      This is how they were "thanked" by Nenko Ukraine.
  17. yfast
    yfast 23 June 2020 21: 52 New
    0
    Quote: Avior

    But he collected information just like that, or it’s not easy to prove for transmission, it’s true

    Is there anything to collect?
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  19. Alexander Barinov
    Alexander Barinov 24 June 2020 05: 05 New
    0
    Ukraine is no more, there is “something” to them of mazepa, Petliura, Kaganovich and Bandera with Shukhevych. Among these * there are Navy sailors? Do not confuse sour with fresh.
  20. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 June 2020 06: 41 New
    0
    Humanly, I am sorry for the sailors remaining to serve in the Ukrainian Navy. But the history of Ukraine is such that for 300 years people have been forced to break their conscience, through the knee. I said that softly ..
  21. Dimon Dimonov_2
    Dimon Dimonov_2 25 June 2020 11: 47 New
    0
    This is what it takes to be a breeder ... to leave housing with his wife and children in one state and go to the zoo 404!?