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What will NOT be in the Constitution

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Yes, we have already talked about and will write a lot about what will be in the package of amendments. It is a pity that sometimes a not very pleasant impression develops that not all writers and speakers understand what is at stake. Especially on TV, it is clearly striking. Someone is engaged, someone truly believes. To each, as they say, his own.


But now we will not talk about what WILL be, we will look at things that WILL NOT be in the Constitution. This, in my opinion, is more serious than the “perestroika” that awaits us.

Item number 1. The ability to influence power


At all? The Constitution is a document that in fact regulates how the people (electorate, voters, no matter what they call) can influence the government.

Yes, today we have this minimum opportunity, every six years an electoral show with a vote on the principle of “no one else”, well, the opportunity to snatch something from the locals rushing for deputies. Playground, porch repair and so on.

And then it will not be in principle. A bond is formed such as the president - the Federation Council - the State Duma - the government.

In general, Putin today has more than just broad powers. Apparently, there is never a lot of power, because most of the package of amendments is dedicated to ensuring that there is even more power.

Because it will be that no one can challenge Putin’s decisions, but he will appoint members of the government, the Supreme and Constitutional Courts, senators ... And no one can really do anything, if that. Even the State Duma. She is already tame and without the slightest opposition, but she will vote properly as it should, because if something goes wrong, she will simply be dissolved by Putin’s decree and new elections will be called.

Therefore, the State Duma is immediately excluded from the list of possible interference. And then, do we have a "random" person from the street can become a deputy? Can not.

Next we have the Federation Council. Consists of people who are sent by governors. Can a person from the street become a governor? Not. Even considering that governors are not appointed, but elected. Elections, elections ...

In addition, our native Constitution does not prescribe the procedure for registering political parties and the rules for holding elections. All this is determined by federal law. Everything would be fine, but who makes laws in our country? Yes, United Russia, to which Putin has nothing to do. Therefore, with the registration of ANY parties, we are now completely calm, and it is simply impossible to do this.

As a picture, I can bring my visit to the party of Zakhar Prilepin, which is “For Truth”. In my own city. Where a representative who came from Moscow proudly stated that they were ALLOWED to register because there were fears that many votes in the upcoming Duma elections would go to Navalny.

There is a situation in which the appearance of at least some opposition, in addition to that authorized by the authorities, does not and will not. As there will be no alternative presidents. As unnecessary. Elections on the principle of “but no one else” is a very convenient thing.

About the courts are literally two words. Courts (Supreme Court and Constitutional Court) cease to be independent and independent. Judges are appointed by Putin; judges are dismissed by Putin. That's all. A person, even if he is at least three times honest and independent, if he doesn’t take the decisions Putin needs, he will not stay in court for a long time.

Total: manual upper house of parliament (Sovfed), manual lower house (State Duma), fully controlled by the Supreme and Constitutional Courts. The government is also under the full control of the president. Everything is controlled by the president - from and to. Assigned, removed, dissolved, dismissed. Prime Ministers, Senators ...

By the way, ministers. Now they are of two categories. The first, important (power and economic ministers), are appointed directly by the president. Minor ones - the prime minister with the approval of the State Duma, but if there are plugs, then in the end they will be appointed by the president, bypassing the State Duma.

Do you see people here? And I do not see. But it is probably not especially necessary for the people. However, if I am mistaken, then we will see it after July 1.

Item number 2. About pensions and salaries


Pensions are mentioned in a very interesting context. Yes, probably, the fact that the Constitution says that pensions should be and should be indexed at least once a year is interesting. But no more than that, because there specifics - zero.

Indexation of pensions "in the manner prescribed by federal law" - this, of course, sounds. How much? When? How? If all this is already in the law, then why shove it into the Constitution?

Here it is worth a look to Europe. In many countries, social programs in general and pensions in particular are not announced in the Constitution. And the state does not guarantee anything constitutionally. But if you look at Germany, Austria, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, then there are no guarantees on paper. There is social programs and pensions. Just eat it. Yes, such that in some countries there is no end to those who wish to live there.

Salaries. Well, it's just a laugh. Salary should not be lower than the established living wage. And who sets the cost of living? Correctly mentioned above. Which this very minimum is left at one or two dinners in a restaurant. And then they are surprised how the people rushed for a ten thousandth allowance, well this is not money at all!

About experiments about living on a living wage, I don’t even want to talk. It is impossible to live in Russia for this “living wage”.

So these fad are about nothing.

Item number 3. Protecting History and Language


Again the items are about nothing. History rewrites the state by the ministry of culturelessness and the ministry of stupidity. However, I already spoke about this. Bees versus honey and so on.

Item number 4. State control over prices


That would be interesting to see. But who is robbing his own, right? No, electorate, this will not happen. We have a market. Capitalist. For details, go to Dudu, he will tell you how cool it is to live in a capry.

And we will observe an unprovoked increase in prices for the same fuel, and the subsequent increase in prices for everything else.

Example: in my city in May-June gas went up by 4 rubles. From 22.50 to 26.50. Diesel fuel - from 46.10 to 48.00. Why? And everything is simple. Money is needed for those who trade. What is the market economy, what is the dependence on world prices, what are you talking about? Demand fell on the people, they began to ride less - here, get it! Traders will get theirs anyway! At the expense of those who could not pinch.

What about masks? Yes, those same masks that are from the virus. There were 3,50 rubles a piece. And at the peak of steel at 100 rubles.

And what could / wanted our government to do? Never mind. Demonstrated complete impotence in this regard. Well, except for Sobyanin, who bought a mask for himself and ordered all Muscovites to wear masks.

The maximum that the president and the government are capable of in terms of prices is to issue statements on the theme that "we will not allow ... we will not allow ..." But these are words, words for which there is no deed. And the prices for fuels and lubricants are rising as if nothing had happened. And no one decree to them, nor world prices, nor Putin, nor the government.

And never such a thing as state guarantees for compliance with pricing policies will not appear anywhere. Especially in the Constitution. Because it can first of all oblige the government to work.

Although we have a lot of things written in the laws and what they don’t even look at. And nothing.

Item 5. On foreign assets


It's funny too. This means that officials and government officials cannot have a second passport and a bank account. Bad, ugly. But, in fact, it has long been spelled out in the relevant laws of the federal level. That's just not much to stop anyone. Because if you really want to or a good person ... As you know, any law in our country is easily handled in such circumstances.

But why the impossibility of owning property abroad was made to the accounts and passports in the Constitution? Sorry, a house in Spain - it can bring income no less than a contribution to Deutsche Bank or American Express.

But this is silent. It is impossible. It’s not good to offend your own. Therefore, Mr. Klishas (co-chair of the amendment commission) will still own real estate in Switzerland, United Russia deputy Vladislav Tretyak will be the owner in Latvia, his party and State Duma colleague Valery Gazzayev will be in Spain. Etc.

Item number 6. Ruble


Yes, we have repeatedly said that it would be nice to have a free, dollar-independent currency. It would be nice if the Russian Central Bank was commanded by a man who would be vilified in the UK in all corners, and not recognized as the best banker of the year. So that the ruble does not fall and does not hit historical lows, depending on the price of oil and the dollar.

We would love to live in a country with hard currency. But, alas, it is still liquid and gaseous with us and depends on how much oil and gas and at what price they will buy from us.

Although in gas station countries such as the UAE or Qatar, things are completely different ...

Item number 7. Medicine


I am very sorry that there will be no clause which says that the state guarantees the right to life and health at its own expense. What they have turned medicine into in general is not even a conversation for the Constitution, but for the Criminal Code, since it is a crime.

But no lesser crime is to doom Russian citizens to fooling for their children. For humiliated extortion of money from compassionate fellow citizens and, as a result, saving children not at the expense of the state, but at the expense of the electorate again.

I want to summarize. The main task of the Constitution is to ensure that power is controlled, that its institutions are accountable to each other and the people have the opportunity to ask and have the opportunity to influence.

When voters can convey their will and opinion to deputies, senators, ministers, as is the case in the USA, for example, when the government understands the need to hear popular opinion (not like it will be on July 1), then the government itself will protect the integrity of the territory, index retirement and keep a story.

And guarantee the Whiskas seals every day.

When this is not the case, at least put everything into the Constitution, but if the government has not done this before, it will continue to do its own thing.

Unfortunately, for some reason the electorate here does not understand this. I personally get the impression that many are in some kind of pink dreams, now we’ll accept the amendments - and the milk rivers will flow with the jelly banks. Wow, this will be spelled out in Our Constitution!

The fact that all this has long been in the laws, but it does not bother everyone, especially the performers, does not bother anyone. The main thing is to accept. And there the wheel of samsara will spin in the opposite direction and a new life will begin with us.

Yes, it will begin. But without the above. And all this tinsel with the institution of marriage, God and other things is about nothing.

All amendments to the Constitution can very easily be spread out not even into eight folders, as I said before, three are enough.

First: Putin must rule another 16 years. Minimum.

Second: Putin must possess not just the fullness of power, but the imperial level. Why would he do this? I have already said that it is not yet clear. But for some reason, yes, otherwise why all this booth?

The third. Any small things like gays, family, god, seals and other things. Carrying nothing, but serving to mask the first two.


It is clear that with such a level of statements that Putin has already made two weeks before the election that 60% of the population will come and 70% will vote “for”, so that the new text of the Constitution is already printed and is waiting for it to be delivered to the shops, - it is clear that everything will be so.

Someone like this prospect very much, I agree, we have a lot of monarchists. Someone doesn’t. The question of everyone's choice.

Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life. Alas.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 24 June 2020 15: 05 New
    -112
    Personally, he "did not see." A market economy implies that the ability to work is sold at a market price. In other words, the capitalist buys the ability to work at the lowest price (this was discovered by K. Marx). If something doesn’t suit you, find another capitalist.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 24 June 2020 15: 20 New
      107
      Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life. Alas.

      Roman, you are just a sensible person .. Personally, I also did not see anything that would at least hint in the future could be reflected in positive transformations. At the same time, zeroing, strengthening of the sole authority, irresponsibility (or non-jurisdiction) is clearly visible .. in general sadness ..
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 24 June 2020 15: 29 New
        -62
        Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
        The state rewrites history using the ministries of culturelessness and the ministry of stupidity.
        Of course, sovereignty is not interesting. We give back $ 50 billion. Hodor, $ 500bn. for a plane shot down by Sumerians, what else they say and how much they say - and then Roman will have a good life.
        That's about lack of culture and stupidity has become interesting. Who was identified in the measure? Here is the Military Review website again! launched a series of articles at the same time about the wonderful king! Russia! (Orthodox!) Danilo Galitsky, simultaneously spitting on Alexander Nevsky. What, in general, there is nobody who knows the history of that period, at least in the school volume, to see dill and Russophobia? Then you definitely need to correct.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 24 June 2020 15: 54 New
          75
          We give back $ 50 billion. Hodor, $ 500bn. for a plane shot down by Sumerians, what else they say and how much they say - and then Roman will have a good life.
          ... They gave 3 lard to Ukraine for gas, 1,5 lard to Poland, for gas, and you know, life has become better, life has become more fun, breathing more freely ... Don’t you? laughing
          1. aerspb
            aerspb 24 June 2020 17: 15 New
            -45
            That’s why they gave 1.5 lard to Poland, because so far under the Constitution there is a primacy of international laws over domestic ones. So find yourself and rejoice
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 24 June 2020 17: 26 New
              61
              And how will the prescribed primacy of our laws help if, as it was, the consulate in the USA is simply confiscated and that’s all? And other real estate and assets on account of debt .. How will the constitutional letter help to avoid this? Please tell me, but something is not clear ..
              1. aerspb
                aerspb 24 June 2020 17: 41 New
                -44
                Well, so we confiscate. Believe me, they have no less assets in our territory, and maybe even more than ours. I think that everyone understands and will not get to this. They may limit themselves to the temporary arrest of some of our sailboats (as it was already - Kruzenshteyn seems to have been arrested or something :), but then they still gave it away. Nobody needs financial war of this kind and don’t hope :)
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 24 June 2020 17: 46 New
                  60
                  For some reason, Alexander, in 2017, they took our stripes away and didn’t give it back and say they won’t give it back .. But we still haven’t confiscated anything and are not going to ..
                  1. aerspb
                    aerspb 24 June 2020 17: 57 New
                    -58
                    Well, the time has not come. Sooner or later, for all "our probable partners" pay, one way or another. Do not worry so, nerve cells do not recover :)
                    1. Revival
                      Revival 24 June 2020 18: 09 New
                      47
                      The time has not come? Wimps are easy.
                      From July 02, will the time come or not again?
                    2. ruivit1988
                      ruivit1988 25 June 2020 05: 45 New
                      17
                      Why did ours give a senior answer to the enemy, namely, they expressed terrible concern and, in fact, everything. Finally, admit the fact that our state is not as powerful as it was in the USSR, it’s just telling our brother in a box about the significance of Russia. Well, in fact, what strong countries will tell us is what we are doing.
                      1. CSKA
                        CSKA 25 June 2020 12: 02 New
                        -11
                        Quote: ruivit1988
                        Finally, recognize the fact that our state is not as powerful as it was in the USSR

                        Well, you somehow already understand that the USSR unfortunately does not exist. And he was not so powerful as you think.
                        Quote: ruivit1988
                        Well, in fact, what strong countries will tell us is what we are doing.

                        What are you? Right? That tells us the United States does not support Assad, but we support. They say give Crimea, but we do not give. Japan says the Kuril Islands give, but we do not give. In Europe they say LDNR do not support, but we support.
                      2. Dmitry10SPb
                        Dmitry10SPb 26 June 2020 18: 26 New
                        +6
                        And the result? Stagnation in the economy. But the amendments are nothing new. Originality not found. Pure Qin Dynasty with the irreplaceable Cixi. The year is so 1910. On the eve of ....
                      3. CSKA
                        CSKA 27 June 2020 12: 28 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Dmitry10SPb
                        And the result? Stagnation in the economy.

                        ))))) Interestingly you attracted foreign policy to the economy. As usual, the opposition threw in an interesting word and no one really understands it everywhere sculpts. And what kind of stagnation do we have? So let's look at 2018. The growth in the Russian Federation is 2,3%, in France 1,7%, in Germany 1,4%, in the UK 1,4%. Here we are in Russia, together with leading EU countries, sitting and stagnating.)))) Well, for you, it’s probably just a great example of Rwanda, there are 8,7%. Do you want yours? Here they do not stagnate.
                        Quote: Dmitry10SPb
                        But the amendments are nothing new.

                        You really don’t know what's new?
                      4. ruivit1988
                        ruivit1988 6 July 2020 13: 20 New
                        0
                        That's why I love the numbers as such, their flexibility, for example, how to show a good result in the absence of such one. For example, if compared with the previous month, 50% more boots were made. In numbers it sounds in place of ten pairs; fifteen pairs of boots were made. Whether this is a good result, well, the next team makes several thousand pieces. You say well, and where does the economy and I will answer you here are other numbers. In 2019, our country had 1 trillion. 610,381 billion dollars, that is, 10970 went to each Russian; thousand dollars Take the same Germany and so Germany’s GDP for 19 3 trillion. 963.8 billion dollars. where every German earned $ 47670 Take the same France 2 trillion. 761.6 billion dollars, and each Frenchman earned $ 41176. Now, if you look like this at the economy of our country and these two. As a percentage of growth as it does not inspire. So the numbers are very flexible and they can show the situation as you like.
                      5. CSKA
                        CSKA 8 July 2020 15: 17 New
                        0
                        Quote: ruivit1988
                        Now, if you look like this at the economy of our country and these two. As a percentage of growth as it does not inspire. So the numbers are very flexible and they can show the situation as you like.

                        What are you? First, why do you take the GDP (face value)? Although I myself will answer. It is very convenient for the opposition. But you want Russia to be lower in the list of world economies. Although any normal economist says that the level of the economy shows GDP (PPP). Secondly, who told you jokes about the fact that the standard of living shows GDP per capita?
                      6. ruivit1988
                        ruivit1988 9 July 2020 06: 18 New
                        0
                        Secondly, who told you jokes about the fact that the standard of living shows GDP per capita?
                        I completely agree with you, but there is one thing. Here are some more interesting numbers. Germany has a salary of $ 31746,4, and a GDP of $ 47670,88, France a GDP of $ 41176,73 and a salary of $ 26000,3. Well, now Russia has a GDP of $ 10974 and a salary of $ 7411,8. You can certainly kill more than one week, NATO that would fit into the ears in the numbers of salaries and food prices. But then I think it will be where it looks depressing, and there will be no joy in the growth of GDP by three percent or even five percent.
                      7. CSKA
                        CSKA 9 July 2020 14: 34 New
                        0
                        Quote: ruivit1988
                        Here are some more interesting numbers.

                        Well, let's get it right. Firstly, it’s already clear that there is no stagnation, about which the initial conversation. We have the same "stagnation" as in Germany or France. Secondly. You have moved to a standard of living. Take the average Z.P. and compare it with GDP per capita. All this seems to be perfect except for one, the difference in purchasing power and currency. Just because GDP per capita is measured in dollars, it is not an indicator of living standards. At a minimum wage in Germany, you can hardly live a month, believe me. And in Russia, you can live peacefully for 3 months.
                        Quote: ruivit1988
                        You can certainly kill more than one week, NATO that would fit into the ears in the numbers of salaries and food prices. But then I think it will be where it looks depressing, and there will be no joy in the growth of GDP by three percent or even five percent.

                        There will be nothing depressing. I know the prices in Germany very well and know how they live there. You have moved from GDP growth to living standards. We know very well that there are no dairy rivers and jelly banks anywhere. And just like the Germans work from morning to night, they buy cars on credit and apartments for mortgages, so do we. GDP per capita looks beautiful, but do you really think that everyone lives happily in Macau or Brunei? Everywhere its nuances. If I in Krasnodar would get average Z.P. then a third would be spent on an apartment, and in Germany, with their average, half would fly away in Berlin, and in Frankfurt even more. This is one example.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 06: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: aerspb
          Well, the time has not come.

          laughing
        3. BecmepH
          BecmepH 25 June 2020 19: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: aerspb
          Well, the time has not come. Sooner or later, for all "our probable partners" pay, one way or another. Do not worry so, nerve cells do not recover :)

          We have already been burying Ukraine and the states for several years., And so far we have been paying (((Both to Ukraine and Am and Poland and to anybody ...
    2. aglet
      aglet 24 June 2020 18: 07 New
      35
      "Well, so we confiscate. Believe me, they have no less assets on our territory,"
      Well, this is not our method, we cannot violate international treaties and cause harm to our partners. in short, scotskotno, at least where and where to write
    3. adler87
      adler87 25 June 2020 08: 19 New
      -9
      And after that, back to the USSR since the 30s.
    4. Lynx-z
      Lynx-z 25 June 2020 08: 24 New
      -2
      you are mistaken ... we have fewer assets of these adversaries
      Quote: aerspb
      Well, so we confiscate. Believe me, they have no less assets in our territory, and maybe even more than ours. I think that everyone understands and will not get to this. They may limit themselves to the temporary arrest of some of our sailboats (as it was already - Kruzenshteyn seems to have been arrested or something :), but then they still gave it away. Nobody needs financial war of this kind and don’t hope :)
      1. atakan
        atakan 27 June 2020 13: 31 New
        +2
        There are many assets and there are a lot of them, a lot of resource-mining was given into the wrong hands, that not a month, then articles in the newspaper, they say they again stole gold and were taken to London, but in real life these enterprises simply belong to these from London.
        Recall nickel - platinum miners, at least, the United States has outlived what it wanted, it has been talked about a lot, but now everything is quiet, because whoever has taken the shares and places in management, and the Kremlin cannot speak against.
        Unpromising).
        1. Lynx-z
          Lynx-z 27 June 2020 17: 57 New
          +2
          yes, only here it’s the opposite ... these are our assets in their hands ...
  2. zenion
    zenion 29 June 2020 13: 31 New
    0
    And what about the president’s wedding night? I read it from left to right and vice versa, then from the bottom to the top I tried to search through the mirror and did not find it, but it was written somewhere and will be executed. There was no such thing that the tsar did not have the right to the first wedding night, what kind of tsar is this if this netuti ?! But everything else is just written that way, for the closest. But the king had and will have subjects. If the people want power, then they must have the right to elect this power themselves. If the people do not want this, and the people will choose the power, then the people will have the very tomatoes, each with a seal in their hand, or with an admission for some amount of the right to cripple.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 June 2020 17: 35 New
    40
    That is, international treaties in connection with the amendments can not be concluded? laughing And if you conclude, then be sure to prescribe, for example: Disputes arising in connection with the execution of this agreement are resolved in the Arbitration Court of the Krasnoyarsk Territory smile
  • Harry cuper
    Harry cuper 24 June 2020 17: 51 New
    13
    And why conclude international treaties that are contrary to their own constitution? Is it either cheating or incompetence
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 June 2020 18: 51 New
      13
      Is the supply of oil, gas, grain, weapons, the construction of nuclear power plants abroad a treason? laughing
      1. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 24 June 2020 23: 27 New
        -2
        Of course not. My remark was intended to guardians of "national priority" over international law
      2. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx 25 June 2020 11: 47 New
        +6
        Is the supply of oil, gas, grain, weapons, the construction of nuclear power plants abroad a treason?

        For the buyer's money - business.
        For the money of taxpayers of the Russian Federation (on credit at a purely conditional percentage ...) - treason.
  • Grading
    Grading 24 June 2020 18: 10 New
    29
    I’ll tell you a terrible secret and be sure to tell your teammates of the Kremlin boats from Lakhta about this, you can terminate international agreements without amending the constitution, but Gazprom will have to pay Poland in any case tongue
  • akunin
    akunin 26 June 2020 11: 51 New
    +2
    here is digging up, everything is not unique
    Accordingly, in connection with this, in part 4 of Art. 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states that “Generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.” In accordance with Part 1 of Art. 17 “In the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen are recognized and guaranteed in accordance with generally recognized principles and norms of international law and in accordance with this Constitution.”

    But directly the “priority” of international law is enshrined in the second sentence of Part 4 of Art. 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation "If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty apply."

    This constitutional norm follows, first of all, from the principle of binding international treaties enshrined in the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties.

    Is this “priority” absolute, i.e. What is the role of international law in the hierarchy of Russian legislation?

    No, it is not absolute - only the Constitution of the Russian Federation has absolute supremacy.

    This position is reflected in the Resolution of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation of July 14.07.2015, 21 N 15-P .: “Since Russia, in the sense of Articles 1 (parts 4 and 79), 125 and 6 (part XNUMX) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, is not entitled to conclude international treaties, not corresponding to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, but the rules of an international treaty, if they violate constitutional provisions, which are undoubtedly especially important for Russia, they cannot and should not be applied in its legal system based on the supremacy of the Constitution of the Russian Federation ... ”

    Thus, there is “priority”, but it is not absolute. But nevertheless, since part 4 of Art. 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the amendments do not affect the elimination of “priority” in this part in any case, but at the same time, as mentioned above, this priority lies in the priority of the norms enshrined in the treaties of the Russian Federation, which the Russian Federation itself signed . Those. certain norms of international law that apply in the event of a conflict with the norms of Russian law cannot appear in its legal space besides the will of the Russian Federation, since there are specific forms of expression of the Russian Federation’s consent to be bound by the international treaty “ratification”, “approval”, “acceptance "and" joining ".
  • aglet
    aglet 24 June 2020 18: 04 New
    34
    "... They gave 3 lard to Ukraine for gas, 1,5 lard to Poland, for gas, and you know, it’s somehow become better, life has become more fun, breathe more freely ... Can’t you?"
    drowned SP-2 in water, buried the power of Siberia in the ground — it became good. "Is it normal, Grigory? excellent, Konstantin!"
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 24 June 2020 16: 04 New
    58
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    Of course, sovereignty is not interesting. We give back $ 50 billion. Hodor, $ 500bn. for a plane shot down by Sumerians, what else they say and how much they say - and then Roman will have a good life.

    In the constitution of the Russian Federation you can write anything. Although the priority of our legislation over the world, even Putin as the god of the sun and the lord of the ocean. However ... I will draw what kind of international arbitration a fine for something, and we will pay. For it is deeply violent to arbitration what Mr. Putin invented there. And we will pay. Despite all the notes. For the arrests of accounts, etc. will go.
  • Stas1973
    Stas1973 24 June 2020 16: 31 New
    +2
    You first figure out about Nevsky. Who, where, when and for what.
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  • 210ox
    210ox 24 June 2020 18: 10 New
    38
    Tell me. And how will the amendments to the Constitution prevent the arrest of property of Russian companies over the hill? This is the question "give Hodor"
  • zontov79
    zontov79 25 June 2020 05: 40 New
    -2
    You, dear, have now farted into a puddle, to be honest, how will our constitution affect the arrest of our property abroad ??
    1. 210ox
      210ox 25 June 2020 11: 15 New
      +8
      No effect. So why these amendments on the priority of Russian legislation over foreign? Pure populism. For in reality it will not work; courts in London or Stockholm will impose sanctions and recover in all available ways. They do not care what the Russians have written there.
      1. CBR600
        CBR600 26 June 2020 15: 40 New
        +2
        if these courts are presented as "International Law", then it is even easier to represent Russia and the rest of the world with this right. It remains to find out which countries recognize the sovereignty of Russian law from international law. It sounds again that the USSR has no allies except the army, aviation and navy. So happened the Second World War. All countries rallied around fascist Germany. Now the country is not needed, just "International Law". A new Warsaw treaty, such as the Organization of the Eurasian Treaty, the return of the republics, the gold ruble ....
  • dim6600
    dim6600 26 June 2020 00: 23 New
    -4
    Very interesting about sovereignty. What changes are proposed in the constitution? Article number in the studio.
  • SRC P-15
    SRC P-15 24 June 2020 15: 32 New
    37
    Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life. Alas.

    Well, would many new promises be made to the Constitution and what, would Roman’s life improve from this? Doubtful! Remember the paragraph in the old Constitution on pensions - at 60 and 55. Well, how did this help in raising the retirement age to 65 and 60? So with any other points it would be and will be the same!
    1. snake
      snake 24 June 2020 16: 04 New
      38
      Quote: SRC P-15
      Well, would many new promises be made to the Constitution and what, would Roman’s life improve from this? Doubtful!

      That's right.
  • Deck
    Deck 24 June 2020 15: 36 New
    42
    Everything there is what you need. Not to you? But who cares!

  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 24 June 2020 15: 37 New
    44
    We are not in the center, do not expect!
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 24 June 2020 16: 10 New
    20
    Quote: Svarog
    Personally, I also did not see anything that would at least hint in the future could be reflected in positive transformations. At the same time, zeroing, strengthening of the sole authority, irresponsibility (or non-jurisdiction) is clearly visible.

    The task of the current government since 1991 is to plunder the Soviet legacy and mineral resources, but any crime should be punished, now the newcomers want to hide behind the constitution.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 16: 35 New
      -66
      And what was there to rob? Except for a few industries that are now successfully operating. As for the rest, it’s a wonderful marquise, either to turn over ancient equipment to metal, or invest crazy billions into modernization, without any guarantees that the products of these enterprises will at least come close to similar ones from developed countries.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 24 June 2020 16: 55 New
        24
        Anti adviser is always lying
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        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 17: 04 New
          -59
          Putin is completely right about the galoshes. We were able to make weapons, nuclear technology, missile - those industries in which we competed with developed countries. What they did for the domestic market: cars, consumer goods, agricultural machinery, did not climb into any gate, it was a shame for the country that first sent people into space. No wonder the people voted in rubles for imported goods, preferring them to domestic, as soon as the choice appeared.
          1. Kronos
            Kronos 24 June 2020 18: 49 New
            27
            Cars and consumer goods were sold abroad for a long time all your lies were dismantled by the storm messenger
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 03 New
              -33
              Where to abroad? To the countries of Africa? To Cuba? To other vassals. Have you seen a lot of our products in developed countries? Isolated cases and then not for long. What kind of clothes were our citizens choking in the queues: for domestic or foreign? Which cars, at the earliest opportunity, were replaced by both motorists and pros? What kind of aircraft did the aircraft switch to as soon as the price of kerosene jumped? And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
              1. Kronos
                Kronos 24 June 2020 19: 08 New
                21
                In the country's trap, including trade statistics of the USSR
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 18 New
                  -31
                  And more? There was a time and the Muscovites went for export, they went to the West, though not for long. Because it is impossible to keep the same model, even if successful, for years on the assembly line - you have to switch to a new model line. And where are they, these new lines, despite the fact that there were very decent new developments? Of course, the plan is better for the shaft and the shaft for the plan, but people still pick it up - there was no way to buy an imported car. A country that was ahead of everyone in space and nuclear energy could not (or did not want) make a decent product for the people, the same notorious jeans? Shame.
              2. Serwid
                Serwid 24 June 2020 21: 00 New
                13
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Where to abroad?

                Well, for example, in 1991 in Germany there were Lada car dealerships.
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 21: 19 New
                  -15
                  In the early 90s, I often visited Germany, in its western part. It was almost impossible to see Lada on the road. As a rule, they were driven by "awns"
                  1. Serwid
                    Serwid 24 June 2020 21: 26 New
                    13
                    Probably "Aussie." But salons existed. And NIVA is still found. And not so rare.
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 06: 43 New
                    +9
                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    In the early 90s, I often visited Germany, in its western part. It was almost impossible to see Lada on the road.

                    That year, in the 90th, the Anglican police bought Niva.
            2. DVR
              DVR 24 June 2020 20: 30 New
              -9
              Cars and consumer goods were sold abroad for a long time all your lies were dismantled by the storm messenger

              About "Herald of the storm", "Left Front" and many other similar resources and organizations have long been known: who feeds them, who oversees and what they want. They feed from the same trough as Navalny, I. Ponomarev, and other hooters, Udaltsovs and Kasparovs.
              The editor-in-chief and the “face” of The Herald of the Storm is Andrei Rudoy, ​​a history teacher by training, the author of the sites Left Front, Rabkor and Ekho Moskvy. Since 2015 - an active figure (now co-chair) of the Teacher union. The editor-in-chief of Rabkor magazine is Boris Kagarlitsky, director of the Institute for Globalization and Social Movements, recognized in December 2018 as a foreign agent for cooperation with the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation ...

              Ore, who calls himself a "radical Marxist", since 2011 - member of the executive committee of the Nizhny Novgorod branch of the "Left Front", and in January 2013 at the Third Congress of the "Front" was elected, along with Ponomarev, to the board of the organization.

              Here are a couple of quotes from Rudogo:
              President Putin ... recorded himself among those who defend “the values ​​of a traditional family, a genuine human life, including religious life” ... “A traditional family” is no longer possible. It is destroyed by the historical process itself and cannot be restored ... By the way, in such circumstances it becomes possible to legitimize same-sex marriages ... To deny the pattern of coming to this seems pointless ...

              I would recommend the left to speak in defeatist positions: Russia must lose the “Ukrainian game” ... I consider this outcome to be most beneficial not only for the left opposition in Russia, but also for the country and the people as a whole ... I sincerely wish Putin to lose in this matter. ..
              1. Kronos
                Kronos 24 June 2020 20: 31 New
                -8
                Expresses quite sound thoughts
                1. DVR
                  DVR 24 June 2020 20: 33 New
                  -3
                  Okay then)
                  1. Kronos
                    Kronos 24 June 2020 20: 35 New
                    0
                    These quoted quotes exposing Rudogo I have already met the guards do not change
                  2. DVR
                    DVR 24 June 2020 20: 46 New
                    -4
                    And Rudoi was able to refute these and many other other disclosures, including his quotes, or did not find it necessary?
                2. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 21: 00 New
                  +7
                  Quote: DVR
                  Okay then)

                  You give references to these quotes from Rudogo, please, otherwise they will catch phrases from the context, as usual. As for the inagents, according to current laws, if your, for example, a fund receives an anonymous donation in bitcoins, then there is already an indent. Today this is not an indicator.
                3. DVR
                  DVR 24 June 2020 21: 23 New
                  -3
                  https://echo.msk.ru/blog/rudoyandrey/1270376-echo/
                  https://echo.msk.ru/blog/rudoyandrey/1218043-echo/
                  Read in the original, the blog of Rudy himself on the site of the Echo of Moscow.
                  Okay, don’t bother yourself with answers, we won’t spend time on each other.
                  And then you’ll start now about contexts and stuff. These quotes in any context for me are an abomination, well conveying the essence of man.
                4. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 23: 54 New
                  +4
                  Quote: DVR
                  https://echo.msk.ru/blog/rudoyandrey/1270376-echo/
                  https://echo.msk.ru/blog/rudoyandrey/1218043-echo/
                  Read in the original, the blog of Rudy himself on the site of the Echo of Moscow.
                  Okay, don’t bother yourself with answers, we won’t spend time on each other.
                  And then you’ll start now about contexts and stuff. These quotes in any context for me are an abomination, well conveying the essence of man.

                  Thanks for the links, who wants to figure it out, read it. I want to remind you that pieces of text connected by ellipsis that do not convey the idea of ​​a text are not quotes. This is a common demagogy. By such "quotes" I can prove to you on Main Campf that Hitler loved the Jews.
                5. DVR
                  DVR 25 June 2020 00: 39 New
                  -4
                  This is a common demagogy. By such "quotes" I can prove to you on Main Campf that Hitler loved the Jews.

                  Prove, don't be a cormorant.
                6. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 25 June 2020 08: 21 New
                  +8
                  Quote: DVR
                  Prove, don't be a cormorant.

                  For example, this way: "Jews in this world will always dominate ... and ... all the correct concepts of the beautiful, the sublime, the noble and the good ... invented by them."
                  https://mylib.pro/ru/book/adolf-gitler-1/moya-borba#google_vignette
                  In your opinion is this a quote? You can see the rules of citation here: https://orfogrammka.ru/OGL03/70091470.html
                  And today, intentionally or not, but you are a liar and a manipulator.
                7. DVR
                  DVR 28 June 2020 12: 18 New
                  +1
                  For example, this way: "Jews in this world will always dominate ... and ... all the correct concepts of the beautiful, the sublime, the noble and the good ... invented by them."
                  https://mylib.pro/ru/book/adolf-gitler-1/moya-borba#google_vignette
                  In your opinion is this a quote? You can see the rules of citation here: https://orfogrammka.ru/OGL03/70091470.html
                  And today, intentionally or not, but you are a liar and a manipulator.

                  I usually don’t respond to such comments. To my sincere regret, you, like many of your like-minded people, reduce the discussion to the plane of insanity, moving away from the essence of the questions, I am not interested. I will make an exception, yet I suggested that you play the game "Don't be a cormorant," and you agreed. Let's see what happened. So you write:
                  I want to remind you that pieces of text connected by ellipsis that do not convey the idea of ​​a text are not quotes. This is a common demagogy. With such “quotes”, I can prove to you on Mein Kampf that Hitler loved the Jews.

                  Let’s take the following excerpts from Rudogo’s blog:
                  President Putin ... recorded himself among those who defend “the values ​​of a traditional family, a genuine human life, including religious life” ... “A traditional family” is no longer possible. It is destroyed by the historical process itself and cannot be restored ... By the way, in such circumstances it becomes possible to legitimize same-sex marriages ... To deny the pattern of coming to this seems pointless ...

                  Now let's look at the context of Rudogo’s article without ellipses. At the beginning of the article, Rudoi criticizes the President because GDP expresses commitment to conservative values. Here is the exact text without ellipses:
                  Also he recorded himself among those who defend “the values ​​of the traditional family, genuine human life, including religious life"life, not only material, but also spiritual, the values ​​of humanism and the diversity of the world."
                  Then Rudoi talks about the "traditional family" that Putin mentioned, and interprets his words, falling into some nonsense about the patriarchal family and the lack of rights of women.
                  What is “traditional family” in Putin’s view? What is formed as a result of marriage today, or the “primary unit of society” 50-70 years ago, or, perhaps, what existed 200-300 years ago? These are different models of the family - and this must be understood. It is impossible to “preserve” a family, proceeding at least from economic prerequisites.

                  Any sane person understands what Putin had in mind when speaking of a "traditional family." This is precisely what was reflected in one of the amendments to the Constitution. And where does the Ore protected by you take us? Rudoi says that as a result of progress and emancipation, a “traditional family” is impossible. Here it is literally:
                  The emancipation of women was the logical outcome of these processes, and now we see how the so-called "Weaker sex" gives odds to men in many areas. A free and economically independent woman does not need to endure a hated spouse; she has the opportunity to predetermine her future herself. In such circumstances, the “traditional family” is no longer possible. It is destroyed by the historical process itself and cannot be restored - everything goes exactly as Engels had predicted. By the way, it is in such conditions that the legalization of same-sex marriage becomes possible. The latter can be treated differently, but to deny the pattern of coming to this seems pointless.
                  Rudoi says gay marriage is a natural result of progress. To give his text a certain “intellectuality”, Rudoi mentions Berdyaev and Hegel, but it’s even ridiculous to comment on this, as well as the continuation of his article. Only a very poorly educated and narrow-minded person can recognize this scribbling as intelligent and intellectual. Ore asserts, lacing Hegel and Engels that piderastic marriages are an inevitable result of evolution, and everything else (culture, traditions, religion, rejection by society in the end, etc.) does not matter. Maybe Ruda really wants this, since he makes such paradoxical conclusions? You it so zealously defend, calling me a manipulator and a liar? And where are my manipulations and lies? As you can see, all the ellipses in those excerpts from the Rudogo blog are set for only one purpose - to shorten the text, the content is not distorted, and even more embellished. In those excerpts, I did not reflect the whole abomination of Rudogo's mental thoughts. I agree with you in one 100%:
                  Thanks for the links, who wants to figure it out, read it.

                  I’ll cite these links to Rudogo’s blog on the Echo of Moscow radio site once again, let people read and understand.
                  https://echo.msk.ru/blog/rudoyandrey/1270376-echo/
                  https://echo.msk.ru/blog/rudoyandrey/1218043-echo/
                  As for the second article from the Rudogo blog, everything is much simpler. In the text of Rudoy I quoted, the meaning is also not distorted. I cannot cite the whole article, but I do not distort the meaning. The author’s position is clear, in the article he reveals the reasons for this position - hatred of Putin and the oligarchs. This is a 100% Vlasov position. You lost the game you agreed to play. In the "quotes" of your ellipses you still need to put a lot, or did you think that people can not check? But your logic is clear - the text consists of words, words from letters, therefore, almost any text can make any text bully
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 21: 21 New
      -10
      Are you about gay marriage? Undoubtedly a good idea.
  • Grading
    Grading 24 June 2020 18: 13 New
    +4
    People hawala 20 years what has changed?
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 17: 18 New
    27
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    And what was there to rob?

    There was nothing? As usual, you carry "guard" nonsense.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 June 2020 18: 01 New
      -32
      A planned economy built from above for everything in the country is always a deficit and technical backwardness, especially if this economy is skewed towards the military-industrial complex in the USSR and shifted to this direction from the end of the 50s - the civilian sector is completely out of football marketing no high tech no materials are in short supply like specialists their defense industry enterprises took their developments and inventions privately; it’s impossible to do private business prohibited equipment tools and materials no innovation at enterprises prevents the implementation of the plan - since everything was scheduled for five years. That’s the answer why in the West, so many trillions produce and earn on this - their client base has been forming all 69 years in the market while we were engaged in planned garbage in the 90s and all civilian products were played out physically and mentally outdated there were no buyers for it and the giants remained plants without orders, almost nobody started bending and eventually bent, except for speculators, security guards and those who started to delve into the market at the end of the 80s and didn’t know what to do in the new market conditions - numerous scammers took advantage of this ignorance and robbed part of the population and the state taking the money of the enterprise and the factories that were able to work in the new conditions put the money in their pocket those that were bent over were let into scrap metal or for renting the premises and the country was in fact bankrupt, there was no money for anything, all taxes went past the cashier sent prices for free swimming began to borrow money the IMF collapsed in 1998, which led to default, it became yet another m a serious blow to the Russian economy.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 18: 16 New
        19
        Quote: Vadim237
        it is always a deficit and technical backwardness especially if this economy is skewed towards

        I willingly believe you))) Look at the development of Soviet industry in the 30s and 70s. I’ll tell you a secret, China still has a planned economy.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 05 New
          -16
          China has long had a market economy, with elements of planning. Plus private ownership of the means of production, including large ones. This is the secret of their success.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 41 New
            +5
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            China has long had a market economy, with elements of planning. Plus private ownership of the means of production, including large ones. This is the secret of their success.

            Has our shoot everywhere ripened? In China, the planned economy, there is something like the Soviet NEP, though it was very protracted.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 44 New
              -8
              And under the NEP, there were such private industrial giants as Huawei, Lifan, BBK? Which work mainly on the foreign market, but not according to plan.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 47 New
                +3
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Which work mainly on the foreign market, but not according to plan.

                Are you sure not according to plan?
              2. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 52 New
                -15
                Planning is in any economy, including even such a libertarian one as in the USA. This is infrastructure, energy, etc. But if the enterprise operates on the foreign market and successfully competes with other manufacturers, then it is clearly not planned.
              3. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 56 New
                +4
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                But if the company operates on a foreign market and successfully competes with other manufacturers, then it is clearly not planned.

                What you wrote is sheer stupidity. In your opinion, if the fish farm sends part of the catch, for example, to Poland, then it is excluded from the planned economy?
              4. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 20: 25 New
                -15
                How can you plan the demand in the foreign market? Play prices in the competition, conduct exchange operations? A planned economy cannot do this; it is inflexible. Plan and competition are incompatible.
              5. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 20: 46 New
                +6
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                How can you plan the demand in the foreign market? Play prices in the competition, conduct exchange operations? A planned economy cannot do this; it is inflexible.

                It does a great job. Look at the example of China. Or do you think the leadership of the USSR did not plan export-import operations? It is all 70 years old, it turned out by itself?
      2. bk0010
        bk0010 24 June 2020 23: 14 New
        +5
        Even under Stalin there were cooperatives that worked for the defense industry.
      3. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 25 June 2020 08: 11 New
        -4
        And here are the cooperatives? Under Stalin, were cooperatives independently trading in foreign markets?
  • Motorist
    Motorist 24 June 2020 21: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: Vadim237
    the economy is skewed towards the military-industrial complex in the USSR

    Well, towards the military-industrial complex there was a bias for no reason, of course ... Put punctuation marks, please.
  • didra
    didra 24 June 2020 23: 48 New
    -3
    I fully share your position on this issue! Unfortunately, comprehension of history, especially the recent one, comes slowly and hard (we are too embedded in the historical process). We do not pay attention to the minuses, they characterize the minus. In general, on this thread, if a person has more than 5 minuses, then this is a thoughtful person.
  • ruivit1988
    ruivit1988 25 June 2020 06: 17 New
    12
    Here are some interesting numbers.
    "In 1979, the industrial robot fleet in Japan was 7,5 - 10 thousand, in the United States - 4 thousand. It took almost 15 years for the industrial robot fleet to be 1983 thousand units in the USA by 8.
    In 1985, the USSR fleet of industrial robots reached approximately 40 thousand units.
    2016 industrial robots were sold in Russia in 359. “In a planned economy, introducing automation or automated production lines into the industry is very important, as manual labor seriously violates these plans. So everything with the planned economy was good and it is much better than the dictatorship of capital and the market. The fact that the USSR collapsed and the reason here is not that the planned economy is bad and not progressive, but that the USSR litas destroyed and betrayed the country and the working people. Since they wanted to live kucheryava and boasts about it. //depot-robots.livejournal.com/28050.html
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 06: 47 New
    +6
    Quote: Vadim237
    and the giants factories left without orders began to bend and eventually bent

    Vadik, where did your grandfather get a workshop with a fraser machine?
  • vVvAD
    vVvAD 25 June 2020 20: 04 New
    +4
    Vadim, so that you know that modern Western economies have taken over from the USSR both economic planning and GOSTs (have you heard about HASP?), The brigade principle of work (now this is team work), and much more. And, yes: they can be called PLANNED with the only difference being that the level of planning is simpler.
    Under the planned economy of Stalin, artels, cooperatives and other options for private initiative developed, prices became cheaper, there was a surge in fertility, a technological leap, and the country destroyed by the war was rebuilt and became a superpower without any Marshall plans in the conditions of the world economic, unleashed against it and “civilized” and the "developed" Western world.
  • 210ox
    210ox 24 June 2020 18: 11 New
    +7
    An example of China. Not..?
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 18: 17 New
      -16
      China began to pursue market reforms in the late 70s, without shocks and disasters. So the result arrived.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 43 New
        +8
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        China began to pursue market reforms in the late 70s, without shocks and disasters. So the result arrived.

        Remind me which party still continues to rule in China?
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 46 New
          -9
          The inscription on the barn does not always correspond to its contents. A communist party in whose ranks are dollar billionaires? The bearded classics in a coffin do not spin?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 51 New
            +7
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            The inscription on the barn does not always correspond to its contents. A communist party in whose ranks are dollar billionaires? The bearded classics in a coffin do not spin?

            Not so long ago, you told me about the Communist Party and later the Communist Party spoke quite differently, and I wrote to you (if I'm not mistaken) about the barn. Does your position change depending on the circumstances?
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 24 June 2020 19: 28 New
    14
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    And what was there to rob? Except for a few industries that are now successfully operating. As for the rest, it’s a wonderful marquise, either to turn over ancient equipment to metal, or invest crazy billions into modernization, without any guarantees that the products of these enterprises will at least come close to similar ones from developed countries.

    I was here at the spirit of military factories, ancient equipment is still working, but for some reason there is no new one, and the owners are still not the oligarchs.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 31 New
      -13
      So they are military, defense. If they were civilians, they would go broke in an instant on ancient equipment. Well, either modernized
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 46 New
        15
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        So they are military, defense. If they were civilians, they would go broke in an instant on ancient equipment. Well, either modernized

        The point is not that the current state and the “effective owners” do not want to invest money in modernization, they only fill their pockets.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 19: 49 New
          -10
          Well, what can you do: I also went broke. My product was uncompetitive. This is the norm. The one who can offer the best survives.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 19: 52 New
            +5
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Well, what can you do: I also went broke. My product was uncompetitive. This is the norm. The one who can offer the best survives.

            Including the defense industry?
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 20: 27 New
              -12
              The defense industry enjoys state support. And initially this industry segment competed with the world's leading manufacturers, therefore, at the level.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 24 June 2020 20: 50 New
                19
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                The defense industry enjoys state support. And initially this industry segment competed with the world's leading manufacturers, therefore, at the level.

                In our country, any large corporation enjoys state support, but they don’t want to invest money in modernization, they only fill their pockets. Nornickel is a prime example.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 24 June 2020 21: 07 New
      16
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      I was here at the spirit of military factories, ancient equipment is still working, but for some reason there is no new one, and the owners are still not the oligarchs.

      So take the energy sector ... for example, a hydroelectric power station ... have you built at least one new one? They use everything Soviet and do not worry, at the same time they do not forget to pour mud, they say there was nothing but galoshes ..
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 21: 29 New
        -7
        8 nuclear power plants over the past 12 years is not enough?
    3. Motorist
      Motorist 24 June 2020 21: 46 New
      -2
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      ancient equipment is still working, but for some reason there’s no new

      I don’t know what’s in the military factories, but I’ll tell you so: in my industry I would ban “modern” “high-tech” equipment in general due to low reliability and no maintainability!
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 06: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Motorist
        no maintainability!

        A couple of days ago they went over an ordinary kitchen hood. This is a complete bummer. Everything was almost one-time, and in addition a couple of screws under the triangle, I had to grind the electrode to unscrew them.
      2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 25 June 2020 16: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Motorist
        I don’t know what is in the military factories, but I’ll tell you this: in my industry I would ban “modern” “high-tech” equipment in general because of low reliability and no maintainability!

        The problem is that we simply do not manufacture this high-tech equipment and don’t understand a damn about it ... and yes, after exchanging nuclear strikes, the stone ax is the most reliable.
  • WIKI
    WIKI 24 June 2020 16: 13 New
    19
    Quote: Svarog
    Personally, I also did not see anything that would at least hint in the future could be reflected in positive transformations

    The president must ensure the progress of society, methods appropriate to the culture of this society. In our case, this is true, freedom and justice. On the face there are some cons in all positions. And what difference does it make, what color is a cat, if it did not catch mice earlier, then it will behave in the same way in the future. .
  • iouris
    iouris 24 June 2020 17: 04 New
    -11
    And how long is the succession of economics and finance, HSE, etc. are they "led" by the same? And none of the "sane" to "nullify" their term Ov does not stutter.
    1. Mazuta
      Mazuta 25 June 2020 11: 30 New
      +1
      Don't you think this is a "thimble game"?
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 25 June 2020 06: 23 New
    +6
    At the same time, zeroing, strengthening of the sole authority, irresponsibility (or non-jurisdiction) is clearly visible .. in general sadness ..

    I always said that our nullified tsar-father would finally finish Russia.
    Only me always for this minus or comments are deleted, and then another warning.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 25 June 2020 14: 11 New
    +4
    Shame, of course, when the Constitution guarantees a salary of at least a healthy, working citizen of the Russian Federation, so as not to die of hunger.
    With medicine, some kind of turbidity again,
    type: subjects of the federation and municipalities will be treated within their competence !? What is it like? And where did the municipalities get the money for this, if all the industry was destroyed in the field and there was no work. Or there was no talk of equal pay to doctors without taking into account their place of work. But how to correlate responsible behavior in relation to animals and the Constitution of the state, just brains boil. Or, the provision already stipulated in the Constitution on the separation of the church from the state put God on board like an owl on a globe? And where is God, if faith is voluntary, and what does the Constitution have to do with it, if the Russian Federation is not a religious, but a civilian state? And who are the “volunteers” along with a careful attitude to the Russian language? I did not see an amendment repealing the supremacy of international law over national law. And if this norm is not repealed, then how will the new ones act, where everything is only through the Constitutional Court. Yes, cancel the old norm and the court will have less work to verify each new treaty and the decisions of international courts. Or is it scary to write it down? Is it not because the authorities are hiding behind the opinion of the people and have organized a universal vote not prescribed either in the Laws or in the Constitution. Why wasn’t an article about the termination of deputy powers requested by voters. Why are we afraid of making local judges and local police leaders elected? What is the danger to the state? But now we will beware of stepping on a hedgehog in the forest, unless of course they will still be allowed into the forest.
    Roman full respect! hi
  • Dimmedroll
    Dimmedroll 25 June 2020 19: 23 New
    +1
    And where did you see the zeroing and the sole Power. Apparently we read various amendments.
  • bandabas
    bandabas 24 June 2020 15: 31 New
    27
    Market price is one thing, another is an unprincipled and actual slave drive. That is precisely why in 1917 they did not begin to search for other capitalists. Current ones do not seem to want to understand this.
    1. iouris
      iouris 24 June 2020 17: 07 New
      -8
      Quote: bandabas
      Market price is one thing, another is an unprincipled and actual slave drive.

      And the slave owner feeds the slaves. A slave is his property.
      And Marx has a work on the situation of the English (!) Proletarians in England (!!), where he explores the problem: what will the proletariat do when the price of labor becomes lower than the minimum wage. Read. The answer is: he will lie under the fence and die, but will not work.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 24 June 2020 17: 02 New
    -24
    Please return the opportunity to put a minus article! How much can you read nonsense that we are nobody and our voices have nothing and never affect! So the author can agree on the need for a coup in Russia, as a way to change the Kremlin’s political course! To the author, leave the people the opportunity to decide whether to go to the polls, or not to go! Do not impose your opinion, using the fact that you are a site administrator! Write better about warships - at least you don't actively impose your opinion on them! !!!!
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 24 June 2020 17: 30 New
      -26
      The appeared heading "Opinions" lowered VO to the level of authority "Echo of Moscow", "Medusa" and "RusoBalt" among the majority of Russian citizens! It’s not in vain that the “Support” banner appeared, many simply left, probably those who sponsored the advertisement, not having considered it more necessary to spoil their nerves ..
      There is only one cure! Either VO will return to its original appearance, or moderators will appear who will sweep out the entire vagrant and anti-Russian riffraff, or a new site will open which will discuss military news, military construction, military history and art, technical innovations and the international situation, which, in one way or another affects the security of the Russian Federation!
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 24 June 2020 19: 12 New
        -19
        I have your cons ... balm for the soul! So, I made a bunch of Russophobia, connoisseurs of Western values ​​and other "lovers of Russia" nervous.
        Our ancestors at the front and in the rear defeated fascism and we will defeat you!
        All a Happy Holiday! Hooray!
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 06: 58 New
          +8
          Quote: Vladimir61
          Our ancestors at the front and in the rear defeated fascism and we will defeat you!

          My ancestors did not defeat fascism so that I would live in capitalism, a traitor.
          1. Vladimir61
            Vladimir61 25 June 2020 13: 26 New
            0
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            My ancestors did not defeat fascism so that I would live in capitalism, a traitor.
            Apparently you and your ancestors had a different homeland!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 13: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Vladimir61
              Apparently you and your ancestors had a different homeland!

              I, like my grandfathers, who stormed Berlin and climbed into a minefield under shelling, have one Motherland. This is the Soviet Union.
              1. Vladimir61
                Vladimir61 25 June 2020 13: 35 New
                0
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Homeland alone. This is the Soviet Union

                Yes! But they did not measure their homeland with a piece of fat and green candy wrappers ...
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 13: 45 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vladimir61
                  But they did not measure their homeland with a piece of fat and green candy wrappers ...

                  That's it.
                  1. Vladimir61
                    Vladimir61 25 June 2020 14: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    That's it.

                    So which of us is a traitor? You can’t answer, it’s not interesting ...
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 25 June 2020 14: 19 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Vladimir61
                      You can’t answer, it’s not interesting ...

                      What, break the pattern? Think for yourself, your head is not only about wearing a cap.
        2. Russian jacket
          Russian jacket 25 June 2020 09: 08 New
          -1
          Fully headed by you. Sometimes I look at VO analytics and that's all .... VO apparently decided to beat the echo of matzah, rbk, rain, jellyfish and babr combined.
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 24 June 2020 23: 19 New
      +6
      Quote: Thrifty
      To the author, leave the people the opportunity to decide whether to go to the polls, or not to go!
      And what, does the author rob the people of the opportunity to decide? And something I did not see your indignant comments in the articles for the amendments, saying that there is nothing to drive people to the polls and force them to vote for the amendments. Why so one-sided?
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 25 June 2020 00: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      Please return the opportunity to put a minus article! How much can you read nonsense that we are nobody and our voices have nothing and never affect! So the author can agree on the need for a coup in Russia, as a way to change the Kremlin’s political course! Auto RU, leave the people the opportunity to decide whether to go to the polls, or not to go! Do not impose your opinion, using the fact that you are a site administrator! Write better about warships - at least you don't actively impose your opinion on them! !!!!
      Very correct comment. It is a pity that there is no technical opportunity to put you more than one plus. hi
      PS- I also didn’t understand that the author was so embarrassed, if, evaluating the above, in general, it can be concluded that the Old Constitution has not been working for a long time, and the new Constitution will not work anyway, to say the least - The guarantees guaranteed by the constitution were not fulfilled, not executed and will not be executed. And now what? Life on the old constitutional "field", like life on the new constitutional "field" is equally not suitable "for fattening the" obese "masses, and therefore it is necessary to change the country as a" grazing field ", together with a residence permit? To do what? To go to vote for "no guarantees" if the "existing" ones are not respected, or not to go, and to remain proudly nonvoting within the framework of the not observed "existing" to the peak of the upcoming "guaranteeless"? What was the call?
      Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life
      So it’s from the old Constitution, there’s practically nothing left request
      1. Mazuta
        Mazuta 25 June 2020 11: 35 New
        +1
        "...to do what..."
        To begin with, turn on the brain, and this is what the author calls for ...
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 25 June 2020 15: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Mazuta
          "...to do what..."
          To begin with, turn on the brain, and this is what the author calls for ...

          Well, thanks to the author, your Mazuta brain has turned on, so what? After reading the article, and gaining incredible enlightenment, what you decided to live under the old-style Constitution, which judging by the author’s thoughts no longer promises a good life for him, or living under the new Constitution, which, according to the same author, doesn't promise yet good life? Which of the Constitutions (old or new) promises a good life for you personally, with the brain turned on? As for me, both of them do not answer what I would like to see in the end, because a request in society for a fair coexistence of the state and the citizen, is much wider and the option of returning the USSR model to the Constitution, would be preferable. But who will allow this?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 25 June 2020 22: 47 New
      0
      Cons are needed for those who cannot think and have nothing to answer, look at the pictures of the picture, and even anonymously “mark” their presence. If we minus copyrighted articles, the site will turn into a repost of articles from the media and the Internet. Do you need this?
  • TANKISTONE
    TANKISTONE 25 June 2020 13: 43 New
    +1
    iouris (iouris) If something doesn’t suit you, find another capitalist.
    Like, slave, find yourself a new master ???
  • Talipov Rustam
    Talipov Rustam 25 June 2020 15: 24 New
    +1
    And who will let you find another capitalist? Remembering the same K. Marx, for a 300 percent profit, the capitalist will commit any crime, imagine that the obstacle is that you or your family will not be the obstacle to this profit? If you feel good today this does not mean that you will not feel bad tomorrow. The state is a social contract if one of the parties violates it, it turns out either dictatorship or anarchy horseradish radish is not sweeter the state will die anyway
  • vVvAD
    vVvAD 25 June 2020 19: 40 New
    +4
    iourus, why on earth should I look for some kind of capitalist if I did not vote and disapprove of the dissolution of the USSR, and I am not very interested in the twists and turns of the "market" economy?
    In general, it is as market-oriented as the oligopoly and the cartel. And it can only pump out resources and pollute the planet in the name of endless enrichment. Its prospects are a dump or a nuclear desert.
    The development of fundamental science, the scientific examination of political decisions, economic and social planning and urban planning, resource-saving technologies, rational nature management and the desire to ensure the maximum service life and thrifty attitude to things and food products, limiting production and consumption by a reasonable framework of objective needs; protection of the biosphere and health, social standards of life and the protection of family and childhood, universal education and development of talents of all members of society in the name of the common good; ensuring equal opportunities for people of different sexes, races, religions, worldviews, abilities and levels of affluence; the desire to openly defend one’s point of view, to negotiate and make decisions, to do this not by a minority or majority, but by universal consensus and, as a result, the desire for peace are NOT generated by capitalism, are NOT its attributes, moreover, they are contrary to the thirst for profit as its main driving force .
    If in order for capitalists simply not to destroy humanity by any of the hundreds of methods they use to enrich and gain power, it is necessary to limit their appetites by state coercion, which they see as an obstacle to unlimited power, try to circumvent or subjugate, then why should I to support the realm of the absurd, called a market economy?
  • snake
    snake 24 June 2020 15: 20 New
    18
    Interestingly, there will still be a poll on voting on the VO? There were links to other media resources. Why not spend here?
    1. ximkim
      ximkim 24 June 2020 15: 34 New
      13
      I am for the local polling station.
      1. kot28.ru
        kot28.ru 24 June 2020 15: 42 New
        -19
        in Zhytomyr or in Lviv laughing
        1. ximkim
          ximkim 24 June 2020 15: 44 New
          +4
          For a survey on the site.
          1. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 24 June 2020 15: 48 New
            -5
            a priori virtual survey will not really show anything
            you know very well that registering even one user with many accounts for voting is not a problem
            you can do it gradually, in advance
            we don’t have a binding of a mailbox to a passport
            all or almost all is possible
            so all virtual votes for or against the firebox
            By the way, there are special programs for voting hi
            1. snake
              snake 24 June 2020 16: 40 New
              +4
              Even if the scale of one site is an objective vote - a problem, then what happens on the scale of an entire country ..?
              1. Konstantin Shevchenko
                Konstantin Shevchenko 24 June 2020 17: 23 New
                -3
                Countries or countries?
            2. Mazuta
              Mazuta 25 June 2020 11: 37 New
              -1
              That is, a farce in several areas suits you?
      2. MBRSS
        MBRSS 24 June 2020 15: 45 New
        11
        I join the vote in the VO.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 24 June 2020 15: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: serpent
      Interestingly, there will still be a poll on voting on the VO? There were links to other media resources. Why not here

      Do you need this brain rupture? Here - this is one thing, but in the wild so-o-o-all the other numbers! yes
      1. snake
        snake 24 June 2020 15: 49 New
        10
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Here - this is one thing, but in the wild so-o-o-all other numbers

        It will be more honest here, I think. Well, at the same time, it is curious to look at the mood of the participants in the VO.
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 24 June 2020 15: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: serpent
          It will be more honest here, I think. Well, at the same time, it is curious to look at the mood of the participants in the VO.

          Honest for whom? There may be a majority of users not from Russia at all! Well, why do I need their opinion about the structure of life in my country?
          1. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 24 June 2020 15: 53 New
            +2
            here one michan has more than a dozen accounts
            more honest ???
            when logging in with mobile IP every time is different hi
          2. snake
            snake 24 June 2020 15: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: SRC P-15
            There may be a majority of users not from Russia at all!

            Okay, I get it. In general, we must first create a survey on the topic: "is it necessary to conduct a survey on voting for amendments."
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 24 June 2020 16: 05 New
              0
              Quote: serpent
              Okay, I get it. In general, we must first create a survey on the topic: "Do I need to conduct a survey on voting for amendments

              belay
    3. AK1972
      AK1972 24 June 2020 16: 21 New
      +9
      Quote: serpent
      Interestingly, there will still be a poll on voting on the VO?

      I support, Sergey! Then we will have the opportunity to compare the results of the survey on the forum with the results that the CEC will announce to us. And for some reason I have no doubt that even taking into account the presence on the site of biased bots that work from several IP addresses, these results will be very significantly different from the TsIKovsky ones.
      And there are three questions to ask: 1. Have you voted for the amendments? 2. Have you voted against the amendments? 3. Did you vote?
      1. snake
        snake 24 June 2020 16: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: AK1972
        And there are three questions to ask: 1. Have you voted for the amendments? 2. Have you voted against the amendments? 3. Did you vote?

        Maybe a little more:
        1. Went - for (forced).
        2. Went - for (of his own free will).
        3. Went - against (forced).
        4. Went - against (of his own free will).
        5. Did not go (of his own free will).
        6. Did not go (for some reason).
        But this is if after the official vote.
        And if before him, then it’s easier: I’ll go - for / against, I won’t go.
    4. codetalker
      codetalker 24 June 2020 17: 11 New
      -11
      What if the result is not the same as Comrade Skomorokhov convinces us?)
  • rocket757
    rocket757 24 June 2020 15: 21 New
    13
    Will the amendments change anything for the workers?
    The question is not even rhetorical, it .... in short, it was not worth asking.
    In the coordinate system that we have, everything is done for the ruling, privileged class and their servants, and the rest are .... in the forest, for example.
    However, this is no exception, against the background of everyone else around us. It is a fact.
  • unaha
    unaha 24 June 2020 15: 22 New
    19
    “find another capitalist for yourself” - do we really have capitalism? When is the largest capitalist state? And not just a capitalist, but also a monopolist in a mass of industries. And market mechanisms work exclusively in small businesses.
    We have some kind of corporate feudal oligopoly.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 24 June 2020 15: 48 New
      17
      Quote: unaha
      corporate feudal oligopoly.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 24 June 2020 15: 22 New
    24
    And what - someone expected that the non-ruling ruling class, the bourgeois, themselves will get into their own pocket or something? Or will they sacrifice at least some of their stolen profits for the sake of people? It's just not funny .. Bourgeois - he is, by definition, a fierce enemy of the people. Like any of his proteges in power .. With all that it implies ..
    1. mdsr
      mdsr 24 June 2020 15: 31 New
      20
      Quote: paul3390
      Bourgeois - he is by definition a fierce enemy of the people.

      That's right. The dream of any employer is for people to work as much as possible and to pay them as little as possible or not at all. The dream of the capitalist state is to get as much money out of people as possible in the form of taxes and all kinds of fines, payments, and at the same time spend as little money on every citizen as possible. And, of course, so that he would die the very day after retirement. The current state is the worst enemy of the people.
      1. smart75
        smart75 24 June 2020 15: 59 New
        -17
        That is why Henry Ford raised the minimum daily wage for workers from $ 1 to $ 5 (30 per week, about 30 now). He dreamed of robbing so that they could never buy his cars.
        As a result, it began to produce and sell not 200, but 200 cars a year. Some bourgeois ride on them))
      2. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 24 June 2020 17: 59 New
        +1
        Not the next, but the day BEFORE retirement!
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 24 June 2020 15: 24 New
    12
    I agree with the author 200% !!! Baykot election! Putin is not worthy of respect !!
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 24 June 2020 15: 50 New
      +5
      then don’t know that they voted for you as well
    2. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 24 June 2020 16: 23 New
      -18
      You don’t like Putin, but will you like his receiver? Maybe you will remember him with longing, conducting a master class on eating baland and using bucket.
      1. mdsr
        mdsr 24 June 2020 19: 18 New
        +8
        Quote: a.hamster55
        You don’t like Putin, but will you like his receiver? Maybe you will remember him longingly

        Of course, listening to Putin's receiver is a pleasure so-so. But if you, suddenly, had in mind a successor, then you must immediately, at the stage of announcement, send him on a long erotic journey with his boss and with everything вedrom. Enough of putting up with the proteges of the oligarchs. Hurled for 30 years, stolen trillions of dollars, enough, time to pay the bills.
        1. a.hamster55
          a.hamster55 24 June 2020 20: 09 New
          -9
          If you are planning to send somewhere, then notify in advance, with the next pension I will send you an opposition kit (packing diapers, annual subscription to Kolyma Pravda)
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 20: 42 New
          -4
          Do you naively think that the successor will not be from the proteges? One clan of oligarchy will be replaced by another and not the fact that it is less greedy.
      2. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 25 June 2020 06: 40 New
        +4
        You don’t like Putin, but will you like his receiver? Maybe you will remember him with longing, conducting a master class on eating baland and using bucket.

        I did not like Yeltsin, but under Yeltsin there were at least specialists who were trained in the USSR.
        Then Putin came and in the country everything became much worse.
        I now, that Yeltsin should remember with a kind word or what? fool
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 24 June 2020 15: 25 New
    +9
    That's right. I refuse to play in the extras of this cheap performance. What is noteworthy - a leaflet appeared on the porch door with an invitation to vote, in a frame and under glass. (There were no invitations to the Duma and presidential elections - neither at the entrance, nor in the mailbox.)
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 24 June 2020 15: 32 New
    +8
    "" "Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life. Alas" ""
    "" - Tell me, Shura, honestly, how much money do you need to be happy? - asked Ostap. “Just count everything.”
    “One hundred rubles,” Balaganov answered, regretfully tearing himself away from bread and sausage.
    “No, you do not understand me.” Not today, but in general. For happiness. Clear? To make you feel good in the world.
    Balaganov thought for a long time, smiling timidly, and finally announced that for complete happiness he needed 6400 rubles and that with this amount he would be very good in the world.
    “Okay,” said Ostap, “get fifty thousand.” He unzipped a square bag on his lap and handed Balaganov five white bundles tied with twine. The flight engineer immediately lost his appetite. He stopped eating, hid the money in his pockets and no longer took his hands out of there.
    - Is it really a plate? He asked admiringly.
    “Yes, yes, plateau,” Ostap answered indifferently. - With a blue border. The client brought in the teeth. I waved my tail for a long time before I agreed to take it. Now I command the parade! I feel great. ”” (Ilf and Petrov Golden Calf)
    But we do not expect too much from the capitalist state?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 June 2020 15: 47 New
      22
      But we do not expect too much from the capitalist state?
      ... For example: the milk rivers this time, the sour banks are two, the gingerbread houses are three and all this for 17000 ... laughing
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 24 June 2020 16: 00 New
      10
      To be or not to be Judging by the growing minuses to your comment ... books by Soviet authors will soon be burned at the stake. In public.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 24 June 2020 16: 13 New
        +5
        The soldiers of the invisible front do not understand. That a negative result is also a result! wink And in my years the game in pluses and minuses is somehow funny
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 24 June 2020 16: 21 New
          0
          On the one hand it’s funny. A little later it won’t be funny ... That's what saddens.
      2. Mazuta
        Mazuta 25 June 2020 11: 55 New
        0
        For Ilf and Petrov, only the "dim-witted" can minus.
        I don’t share the "to be ..." position.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 June 2020 15: 33 New
    0
    "Pro-American and liberal" article. laughing At the expense of the elections. It’s really bad. Someday, people will get tired of choosing the lesser evil and will vote for the greater. But even this more will be controlled by the ruling elite. For example, the same Navalny. He’s on a lead now. Do you want Navalny? There will come a time when they say Navalny - face!
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 25 June 2020 11: 41 New
      +1
      . The time will come when they say Navalny - face! ,,
      I think Alexei, you understand that bulk, from the same team. The Kremlin just needs it to advance the interests of a certain group, from this team.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 24 June 2020 15: 34 New
    13
    Item number 1. The ability to influence power

    She was not de facto before, but now she will not be de jure.
    Item number 2. About pensions and salaries

    What future if PF are private. There are more and more pensioners working less and less. Not long is the day when it is officially banned.
    Item number 3. Protecting History and Language

    Well, how they cherish it - the Russian language can be seen at school. 2 foreign languages, English in the exam is compulsory, and hours of the Russian language are less and less. By the way, the physical education does not touch the clock. Our health is taken care of.
    But why the impossibility of owning property abroad was made to the accounts and passports in the Constitution?

    There is absolutely nothing sacred. Where to put it now?
    I am very sorry that there will be no clause which says that the state guarantees the right to life and health at its own expense. What medicine has now been turned into in general is not even a conversation for the Constitution, but for the Criminal Code, since it is a crime

    And I'm so sorry! But not for this, the Soviet health system, working like a clock, was ruined for 30 years to now guarantee honey. help. Only for money. And there is no money ... so it was better to engage in physical education at school ...
  • loha
    loha 24 June 2020 15: 35 New
    13
    As it was a non-binding leaflet, it will remain so,
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 24 June 2020 15: 37 New
    +9
    an ambitious napoleonchik and a liar, and people don’t want to see that every year the social group shrinks from socialism less and less, a poorly former party member and now deeply religious (probably does not observe the canons of Orthodoxy, a hypocrite, as he gave him the main pop divorce) studied in his bursa political economy and history hopes to die in his bed he has such chances, and then he does not think
  • smart75
    smart75 24 June 2020 15: 38 New
    -20
    “When voters can convey their will and opinion to deputies, senators, ministers, as is the case in the USA, for example, when the authorities understand the need to hear popular opinion”

    Roman, have you been to the USA for a long time? In the know, how is the popular opinion of niggas getting to whites now? Or are you just too lazy to see the news, at least on the BBC, at least on CNN?

    About the amendments - you deliberately forget about the continuity from the USSR and Russia, the status of the Russian language and the role of the Russian people, which was not present in ANY Constitutions.

    And not a “trifle about gays and God,” but about a marriage between a man and a woman and the role of family and upbringing.
    Unlike the Western world with 16 floors and "parent number 2"

    I am ashamed to write such an x..yun instead of criticizing the amendments!
  • Olegater
    Olegater 24 June 2020 15: 42 New
    14
    The author, as always to the point!
    We exchange one flickin letter for another flicku letter. More convenient to the current updated. Just! Nothing new under the moon. As money was withdrawn abroad and had tamya rear, it will remain so. Tell me, does this literacy spell the rights of the people and their will? No, of course - why !!
    I won’t go to vote, do I need it? It is upset later that my rights are not respected.
    He lived without the former surviving and now with the new one you need to survive, not live.
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 24 June 2020 15: 48 New
    -15
    The author does not have a complete understanding of the functioning of the branches of power, of the relationship between the president, government, chambers of parliament, the formation of the Federation Council both now and in the new version of the Constitution. As a result, half-truth and partial misinformation. Why write about anything if you do not have a complete understanding of the functioning mechanism of various authorities?
    1. smart75
      smart75 24 June 2020 15: 53 New
      -20
      The author does not need this. He fights with Putin, and does not notice the little things))
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 18: 20 New
        -6
        Nuland is also fighting Putin. And how Poroshenko fought ...
    2. didra
      didra 24 June 2020 23: 55 New
      -3
      Because the fingers itch, so he scribbles.)
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  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 24 June 2020 16: 01 New
    -7
    I doubted whether to vote or not. This procedure with Tereshkova was painfully awkwardly arranged. But after reading an article by R. Skomorokhov. I decided - I definitely have to go, since he criticizes the amendments.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 24 June 2020 16: 26 New
      11
      I’m interested in one question: what will happen if they vote against, the amendments will not come into force, given that they have already been approved by the Federal Assembly, meetings of the constituent entities of the Federation. those. representatives of the people, and therefore the people?
      1. unaha
        unaha 24 June 2020 17: 29 New
        15
        What is the other "against"? VTsIOM has already explained everything to you - 60% of the turnout, 70% - for it.
        NO other sources (Levada, surveys in the TG, personal observations) confirm this result even closely. But for some reason there is confidence that this is the result that will be voiced by the CEC.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 24 June 2020 17: 46 New
          +5
          Well, all the same .... if it is against, will the amendments be really canceled in the existing situation? laughing
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 24 June 2020 23: 23 New
            +3
            There is no cancellation procedure. You can’t cancel them, just rewrite the constitution again.
      2. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 24 June 2020 18: 00 New
        -4
        Alec, then Putin will resign because he will lose credibility. For all its shortcomings, he understands that power except bayonets is held by its authority. But democracy is a system of choices that are more agile and fun, but not the best. (Mikheev)
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 24 June 2020 18: 47 New
          +7
          Judging by the edits for which you are going to vote, he only thinks about it laughing But everything is simple, this option is not provided for by law .... laughing Py sy ... Your humor appreciated laughing
  • Egoza
    Egoza 24 June 2020 16: 14 New
    +7
    Bravo, Roman! Clear, short and to the point.
  • demo
    demo 24 June 2020 16: 16 New
    +9
    We would love to live in a country with hard currency. But, alas, it is still liquid and gaseous with us and depends on how much oil and gas and at what price they will buy from us.

    Although in gas station countries such as the UAE or Qatar, things are completely different ...

    I read and doubted.
    You need to get acquainted with the official data.

    But how is it really “with this case”, say, in Saudi Arabia?
    That's how.

    This is a graph of the fluctuation of the national currency - riyal, in relation to the dollar.
    From 01.10.1986/XNUMX/XNUMX to this day, "complete calm."
    Well, who will explain to me "this is a miracle"?
    Did they show this to Putin?
    What about Nabiullina?
    So that the "patriots" would not blame me for something: https://ru.investing.com/currencies/usd-sar
    1. Zeev
      Zeev zeev 24 June 2020 16: 25 New
      +7
      Well here I can explain. The rial is tightly tied to the dollar, the rate is fixed and in relation to other currencies fluctuates along with the US currency.
      Quote:
      "To maintain the national currency, Saudi Arabia uses the regime of the Monetary Council, in which the riyal is pegged to the US dollar (ISO code 4217 - USD) in the ratio of 3,75: 1"
      1. demo
        demo 24 June 2020 16: 53 New
        +5
        I know this.
        I'm interested in something else.
        For the 34 years that the chart tells us, riyal has not changed its exchange rate.
        We know the following.
        The fall or growth of the national currency has many reasons.
        One of which is surplus import or export.
        Over the years, SA sold an increasing volume of oil.
        Therefore, there should be a clear bias towards the dollar, the money supply.
        It is clear that all the "extra" dollars settled in the United States.
        Those. The USA acted as a damper.
        But those who want to live better today than yesterday, and tomorrow is better than today in this state of affairs does not become?
        So with the growth of needs it is necessary to satisfy them.
        Otherwise there will be a social explosion, but at the top.
        This should have led the local central bank to print more local money.
        Which, of course, happened.
        But here comes the paradox.
        There is no inflation in the country.
        Which is unique in itself.

        There is only one answer to the question about the stability of the currency.

        The ban on the internal circulation of the dollar in the country.

        Consequently, the growth or depreciation of the national currency is more an artificial manifestation of the desire of the rich to become richer than the natural processes of interaction of economies.
        This is exactly what I was thinking and asking.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 24 June 2020 16: 29 New
      +1
      hi This is what you have demonstrated, liberal and pro-American propaganda laughing
  • Aleksandre
    Aleksandre 24 June 2020 16: 16 New
    -4
    And the hamsters shouted,
    And caps were thrown into the air.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 25 June 2020 11: 46 New
      +1
      And the hamsters shouted,
      And caps were thrown into the air,
      Self-critical.
      1. Aleksandre
        Aleksandre 25 June 2020 12: 58 New
        -1
        Quote: kotvov
        Self-critical.

        It is unlikely that the potpots and zaputintsy will repeat this as a mantra, the templates will not allow it.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 25 June 2020 13: 22 New
          -1
          You already decide. For the hamsters, just these same ,, potreota and zaputintsy ,, shout, even would say VOPSYUT. Although they themselves are, not just small animals, but mold eating the country.
          1. Aleksandre
            Aleksandre 25 June 2020 13: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: kotvov
            You already decide. For the hamsters, just these same ,, potreota and zaputintsy ,, shout, even would say VOPSYUT. Although they themselves are, not just small animals, but mold eating the country.

            You might think the so-called opps with antipathy never do stupid things and do not pronounce loud phrases. I confess in secret: it was addressed in principle to stupid of any colors, tints and shades that tomorrow bear what you put in them today, because they did not give birth to their opinions. And the nesting machine works Stakhanovsky, you can’t take it away from her.
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 25 June 2020 13: 31 New
              -1
              It depends on the quantity and quality. I do not consider myself an opp or what they are called there. I just understand, Putin led the country not there, and then a cliff.
              1. Aleksandre
                Aleksandre 25 June 2020 13: 38 New
                -1
                Quote: kotvov
                I just understand, Putin led the country in the wrong direction, and then a cliff.

                Yes, at times the same sensation swells in the gluteal muscles.
  • prior
    prior 24 June 2020 16: 24 New
    15
    The present constitution and its amendments legitimize pseudo-democratic slavery in Russia.
  • alone
    alone 24 June 2020 16: 25 New
    11
    Well, for complete joy, there is not enough amendment regarding the fact that the husband must fulfill his spouse's duty to his wife at least twice a week .. wassat
    P, C. If even the spouse fiercely does not digest the spouse laughing
    1. Alf
      Alf 24 June 2020 18: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: lonely
      Well, for complete joy, there is not enough amendment regarding the fact that the husband must fulfill his spouse's duty to his wife at least twice a week .. wassat
      P, C. If even the spouse fiercely does not digest the spouse laughing

      I hope that this amendment will not specify that the spouse must be her own?
      1. alone
        alone 24 June 2020 19: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Alf
        I hope that this amendment will not specify that the spouse must be her own?

        repeat Well, about this we will find out after 2036 drinks
  • ximkim
    ximkim 24 June 2020 16: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: kot28.ru
    a priori virtual survey will not really show anything
    you know very well that registering even one user with many accounts for voting is not a problem
    you can do it gradually, in advance
    we don’t have a binding of a mailbox to a passport
    all or almost all is possible
    so all virtual votes for or against the firebox
    By the way, there are special programs for voting hi

    hi Well, let's say that some of the users will use programs and bots on the site, they will tick one and the same. Let's look at the coin from the other side (without the CEC) bully
  • codetalker
    codetalker 24 June 2020 17: 03 New
    -14
    There was one clever idea in the article, but its author for some reason did not want to develop it. But it’s a pity, because there is still hope that the author is not engaged in anti-Russian propaganda, but simply does not really understand what he is writing about.
    “Can a person from the street become a governor? Not."
    Really can not. And not only the senator, but also the minister, deputy, press secretary, etc.
    And why? Putin banned? Not.
    States (all) are not governed by positions, but by the management elite, which is organized into many corporate groups. Each has its own resource capabilities, managerial skills, ideological basis, moral principles and foreign ties. And each one takes care of creating its own personnel base (which for the most part includes all sorts of relatives and friends). Each person in the civil service was there due to the patronage of some group or the consensus of several. And the appointment procedure is a formalization of the result of this patronage or arrangements. To say that there is some kind of parliament, a court or something else (in any country) that is completely controlled by one person is simply impossible. Well, for example, Putin’s everything is so controlled that more than 75% of his instructions are not fulfilled ...
    Changes that are being made to the appointment process for a number of posts increase the responsibility of elite groups for the activities of those individuals whom they “dragged”.
    All other inventions of the author, unfortunately, do not even draw to the level of a school essay on social studies and do not deserve attention.
    1. unaha
      unaha 24 June 2020 17: 32 New
      13
      “Well, for example, Putin’s everything is so controlled that more than 75% of his instructions are not fulfilled” - oh well - instructions! He actually doesn’t fulfill these promises ... Maybe he is not under his control?
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 24 June 2020 21: 44 New
        +8
        Quote: unaha
        Maybe he is not under his control?

        Or maybe he ... isn't Putin? laughing
    2. businessv
      businessv 24 June 2020 18: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: codetalker
      All other inventions of the author, unfortunately, do not even draw to the level of a school essay on social studies and do not deserve attention.
      Are you sure about Russia? smile Didn’t you hear the GDP when he “dissolved” the previous cabinet? Are you not aware that appointments are not based on knowledge of the material and professionalism, but on the degree of devotion to the President ?!
      What and how happens with several levels of power below does not matter, due to the impossibility of these levels to influence the situation in the country as a whole, as well as the existing system of both power and the distribution of capital in the country. They, at these levels, are allowed to steal exactly as much as remains of the section above.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 24 June 2020 18: 59 New
        0
        appointments are not knowledge of the material and professionalism

        Did I write such a heresy somewhere?
        by degree of devotion to the President

        Have you already thought of this? Can you give any confirmation of this tale in practice?
    3. Sergey Zhikharev
      Sergey Zhikharev 25 June 2020 10: 42 New
      +1
      Well, for example, Putin’s everything is so controlled that more than 75% of his instructions are not fulfilled ...

      For 20 years he has been building the vertical of power, and one of four orders is being fulfilled. If such a situation (the director gives an order, but they do not fulfill it, and no organizational conclusions should be made) occurred in a regular company, then how soon would such a company go bankrupt?
  • AleBors
    AleBors 24 June 2020 17: 08 New
    22
    Article 3 of the Constitution says that the highest direct expression of the power of the people is a referendum and free elections. And what is a “nationwide vote”? Nowhere is it said that it is an expression of the power of the people. This is if casuistically approach ....
    Does the all-Russian vote on amendments to the Constitution fall under the signs of a referendum? However, lawmakers do not call it a referendum for an understandable reason: the proposed rules for holding it strongly differ from the norms of the Federal Constitutional Law “On the Referendum of the Russian Federation”.
    Instead, the deputies hastily came up with short voting rules and inserted them into the second article of the amendment law. And as a result: citizens are deprived of the guarantees that are provided for by law in a referendum: these are guarantees of checking the issue submitted to the referendum, the rules of campaigning for and against, the rules for financing such campaigning, the procedure for voting and vote counting under the supervision of representatives of various political forces, and responsibility for law violation.
    And the main problem: whether the proposed order does not correspond to the letter of the Constitution, but to democratic principles: the amendments are a set of norms and their blocks that are not interconnected.
    Has this not violated the provision of the Federal Law “On the Procedure for Adopting and Entering into Force of Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation”, according to which interconnected amendments should be covered by one law on amendments to the Constitution (So in 2008, two blocks of amendments not related to each other were introduced two different bills).
    'Used information from the legal social network https://www.9111.ru'
    So there is noise from all sides, idiotic advertising using NLP. The essence of the upcoming event is a vote of confidence in the authorities. Came, then trust.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 24 June 2020 17: 19 New
    13
    Novel! You told correctly and there’s nothing to supplement. Opinions are expressed, pluses are placed ...
    Nobody here alone says that the authorities turned the basic law into a footcloth, which can be turned over if she rubbed her foot or got wet, and voting on the constitution is a farce.
    The most suspicious of all these movements is haste and absolute profanity. Here they are not even shy to say that voting does not solve anything ...
    I do not want and I will not procrastinate ...
  • Harry cuper
    Harry cuper 24 June 2020 17: 49 New
    +5
    Everything about the case, Roman, Respect
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  • mag nit
    mag nit 24 June 2020 18: 00 New
    +1
    They spoiled the Constitution with their amendments.
  • Vladimir Glinsky
    Vladimir Glinsky 24 June 2020 18: 01 New
    +7
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    Of course, sovereignty is not interesting. We give back $ 50 billion. Hodor, $ 500bn. for a plane shot down by Sumerians, what else they say and how much they say - and then Roman will have a good life.

    But I would like less demagoguery. Her and so in the amendments above the limit norms.
  • businessv
    businessv 24 June 2020 18: 43 New
    +6
    When this is not the case, at least put everything into the Constitution, but if the government has not done this before, it will continue to do its own thing.
    Thank you, Roman, great article! It can greatly help hesitant, or doubters!
    Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life. Alas.
    I absolutely support! good
  • Radikal
    Radikal 24 June 2020 20: 08 New
    +4
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    Quote: Roman Skomorokhov
    The state rewrites history using the ministries of culturelessness and the ministry of stupidity.
    Of course, sovereignty is not interesting. We give back $ 50 billion. Hodor, $ 500bn. for a plane shot down by Sumerians, what else they say and how much they say - and then Roman will have a good life.
    That's about lack of culture and stupidity has become interesting. Who was identified in the measure? Here is the Military Review website again! launched a series of articles at the same time about the wonderful king! Russia! (Orthodox!) Danilo Galitsky, simultaneously spitting on Alexander Nevsky. What, in general, there is nobody who knows the history of that period, at least in the school volume, to see dill and Russophobia? Then you definitely need to correct.

    Correct is how? To jail ? Or can you dig a moat for those who disagree? And why are you better off - and the Anglo-American propagandists?
    Turbopatriot is a new name for people like you! And yet, in catch-up - the darling of your words is fascist! sad
  • Usher
    Usher 24 June 2020 20: 10 New
    -17
    The author of the article "Anal Anal" especially touches the words
    there is a situation in which the appearance of at least some opposition

    My question is, what is the benefit of the opposition?
    1. Region68
      Region68 24 June 2020 20: 44 New
      +5
      All the rights and benefits that you now have, you have due to the fact that in history there were such people who are opposition-minded ..
      One of the tears from the tree, another refused to eat the man, the third claimed that it was not the sun that was spinning around the earth, but, on the contrary, the fourth demanded an eight-hour working day. And so on
      1. Usher
        Usher 24 June 2020 20: 51 New
        -5
        Quote: Region68
        All the rights and benefits that you now have, you have due to the fact that in history there were such people who are opposition-minded ..
        One of the tears from the tree, another refused to eat the man, the third claimed that it was not the sun that was spinning around the earth, but, on the contrary, the fourth demanded an eight-hour working day. And so on

        Only TA opozitsiya, offered an alternative and progress. And our "opposition" in the form of anal, horse and other biomass, is the path to the abyss. And your example is correct when the dominant power or idea is flawed. Tell me, how do you live now compared to, for example, 96 or 98? There were many cars in your village, were there houses with siding? Have new buildings been built? Libraries, hospitals and schools? Even in a depressive region like Buryatia (my small homeland), they are building it. Although of course there is much to strive for. But progress is compared to the 90s on the face. And not thanks to the opposition.
        1. Region68
          Region68 24 June 2020 20: 59 New
          +7
          And iPhones were not in '98, yes
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 21: 44 New
            -6
            There were no iPhones anywhere in the world. But the cars were. So the comparison on iPhones is incorrect. With cars - quite for yourself.
            1. Region68
              Region68 25 June 2020 07: 56 New
              -3
              You will overlay a graph of oil prices with a graph of economic growth in the Russian Federation and everything will be visible .. I remember Nemtsov in some interview said that he dreamed that oil was at $ 25 and it seemed like paradise would be in Russia at that price ..
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 25 June 2020 08: 07 New
                0
                And you will remember when we introduced a budget rule, according to which hydrocarbon revenues finally went to the budget.
        2. Region68
          Region68 24 June 2020 21: 11 New
          +3
          You learn to look not at the moment of time, but at the whole situation in development ... In the 70s and 80s there was no opposition and the general secretaries ruled the country from the hospital ward .. As a result, the country came to the railway station in the 90s .. And after the 90s, it spilled golden oil rain ...
          Here you have siding and cars ..
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 24 June 2020 21: 47 New
            -6
            When was the budget rule introduced? Without it, the rain would not have poured, or rather poured, but not on us. And there would be no car, no siding. Regardless of hydrocarbon prices.
            1. Region68
              Region68 24 June 2020 22: 40 New
              0
              The budget rule because of the flooded rain appeared and not vice versa
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 25 June 2020 08: 08 New
                0
                This means one thing - the correct use of petrodollars.
                1. Region68
                  Region68 25 June 2020 09: 42 New
                  -2
                  It just appeared what to use.
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 25 June 2020 09: 45 New
                    +1
                    You can use it in different ways. In this case, used correctly.
        3. bk0010
          bk0010 24 June 2020 23: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Usher
          And our "opposition" in the form of anal, horse and other biomass, is the path to the abyss.
          This is the opposition that you are shown to hate. "The opposition of His Majesty," so to speak. They won’t tell you about other options on TV.
          1. Usher
            Usher 25 June 2020 21: 51 New
            0
            Quote: bk0010
            Quote: Usher
            And our "opposition" in the form of anal, horse and other biomass, is the path to the abyss.
            This is the opposition that you are shown to hate. "The opposition of His Majesty," so to speak. They won’t tell you about other options on TV.

            Well, tell me? Maybe the "opposition" is the pseudo-communists of the Communist Party?
        4. Mazuta
          Mazuta 25 June 2020 12: 13 New
          -2
          Not understanding, they asked an idiotic question, and now you are trying to justify yourself with the same idiotic examples.
          What does siding and cars have to do with it? !!!
          The person you wrote about the iPhone correctly ...
          About the Internet, computers, remember ...
          1. Usher
            Usher 25 June 2020 21: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Mazuta
            Not understanding, they asked an idiotic question, and now you are trying to justify yourself with the same idiotic examples.
            What does siding and cars have to do with it? !!!
            The person you wrote about the iPhone correctly ...
            About the Internet, computers, remember ...

            And despite the fact that in the 90s when ardent liberals were at the helm in the likeness of anal, there was nothing to eat. Did you eat rhubarb soup?
    2. depressant
      depressant 24 June 2020 22: 14 New
      +7
      Usher colleague, your negative attitude towards such an institution as the opposition is dictated by the fact that you associate it with Navalny, whom you do not trust, you see him as a corrupt person, which means an enemy. I fully agree with you. Because just like you, in Navalny I see a corrupt person, it means an enemy whose goal is to take Putin's place. But not in order to borrow, in order to promote the development of the country better than Putin, but in order to realize our mercenary interests, finally put us under the control of the West and, possibly, ruin Russia.
      On the other hand, the lack of criticism of the current government by ordinary citizens does not allow the authorities to get a real picture of their miscalculations. You will not argue that the decisions made by our government are always flawless? At least once in a lifetime, each of us is mistaken. And well-known political scientists and economic experts, cherishing their position, are either cautious or say what the authorities like ...
      Therefore, in conditions where at least one other political party is absent in the country, equal in power to the conditionally ruling United Russia party, such a party that you and I could call the opposition, which means legitimately criticizing the authorities, in such circumstances, criticism of the actions and decisions of the authorities on the part of the people acquires special value for the authorities and for the president. After all, we are ordinary citizens, none of us aspire to the presidency, we are all sincere patriots of our country, therefore our criticism is selfless, it is a manifestation of the sense of justice of our people and often points to power miscalculations much more accurately than those who is supposed to do this by job. And, imagine, the president takes into account our criticism, he listens to it.
      So what confused you in an article by Roman Skomorokhov? And I will tell you that. His statements seem surprisingly similar to the slogans of Navalny. So, it’s not Skomorokhov who resembles Navalny, but Navalny, living on the handouts of the West and practicing soldering, but not having his own ideology capable of attracting wide sections of the population, eagerly picks up the thoughts of people-statesmen - such as Roman, passing them off as their own. He is just a political plagiarist, a petty thief of other people's ideas. Roman Skomorokhov is a patriot. It’s very difficult to distinguish, is it? Let's try to do it. Let's learn to distinguish the one whose pocket is still not full of dollars and its owner is very bad from this, from the one whose heart hurts for the country.
      1. Usher
        Usher 25 June 2020 21: 55 New
        +1
        The author of the article has purely liberal "howls." No constructivism. Only criticism and the desire to change. And for what? It’s like destroying the house you live in during a thunderstorm, from what you don’t like, and then without the skills and money to try to build a new one.
      2. Usher
        Usher 25 June 2020 21: 56 New
        +1
        Simple criticism without real offers, REAL, and not just increase pensions and salaries (where to get the money from). This is just a selling nag.
        1. depressant
          depressant 26 June 2020 00: 27 New
          -1
          Well then, obviously, you have constructive proposals. So spell it out! Otherwise, your dissatisfaction with Roman Skomorokhov also falls into the category of whining. You do not want to be considered a whiner? Remember that your personal construct, different from that of Skomorokhov, is not yet available on the site.
          Moreover, your statement on the site, that is, in writing, that Skomorokhov is sold, falls into the field of legal responsibility, as it contains an insult to the person. Yes, everyone who receives a salary can be considered “corrupt”. People tend to sell their labor, right? But you mean otherwise. You state that the content of Skomorokhov’s articles contradicts his convictions, or there are no such convictions at all. But now, paid - wrote the required. For money - "What do you want?"
          If Roman wrote an article in accordance with his beliefs, you insulted him. If you don’t have evidence that Roman has beliefs that are contrary to the content of the article, or that he doesn’t have any beliefs at all, you have insulted him.
          You have no evidence!
          It turns out that you offended our author, a colleague. Not good! And it’s completely unacceptable to put Roman Skomorokhov on the same level with a person who has officially completed an internship at Yale University under the program of organizing coups d'etat. I mean Navalny, whose team consists of people who are in contact with this "coup specialist" with the West. For example, Milov. It is worth mentioning also the widely disseminated opinion, confirmed by some facts, that Navalny is a creature of Putin, that through the hands of Navalny, Putin keeps his sworn friends in check by public. It turns out that Navalny is provably a servant of two masters, Skomorokhov is not, but you, pulling Skomorokhov to Navalny, and putting these people on the same board, pour “righteous anger” on one of them for some reason.
          1. Usher
            Usher 26 June 2020 19: 09 New
            -2
            You confuse the effect and the cause. I did not write an article. The man undertook to criticize, I wrote to him, but what can you offer? I do not criticize such frankly liberal cries.
            1. depressant
              depressant 26 June 2020 21: 02 New
              0
              Colleague, we probably don’t understand each other. I propose to clarify the boundaries of our misunderstanding, as well as what we agree on in the following topics of the site. It seems to me that you are a worthy and serious person. It was nice to chat))
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 24 June 2020 20: 37 New
    +2
    The novel in a very strict framework described the powers of the President. Hinted at a monarchy. This is in vain. The Duma and the oligarchy have powerful powers. Some of them pass laws, others consider that they “contain” the state and the electorate. And there are also security officials, the bureaucratic class ... Putin himself somehow defined his nothing more than "representative functions." This is not Peter, who reared the boyars and the clergy. Moreover, the elderly rulers themselves rarely initiate "constitutional plebiscites."

    Who really and why started all this ... constitutional reform, we are unlikely to know. And even the analytical abilities and insider of Roman Skomorokhov will not clarify anything for us.
    1. Uran53
      Uran53 24 June 2020 21: 03 New
      +2
      GDP and started. The question is just for what? My opinion: something serious is being conceived and the amendments will eliminate potential threats to power from the fifth column
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 24 June 2020 21: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Uran53
        amendments will eliminate potential threats to the government from the fifth column

        And who is this 5 column?
        1. Uran53
          Uran53 25 June 2020 18: 20 New
          0
          All those who do not agree with the policy pursued by Putin and have the ability to “correct” it
          1. Karabin
            Karabin 25 June 2020 21: 00 New
            +2
            A peculiar definition. Then Brezhnev and his comrades were the fifth column "correcting" Khrushchev
            1. Uran53
              Uran53 27 June 2020 10: 10 New
              +1
              Well, actually yes
    2. depressant
      depressant 24 June 2020 23: 37 New
      +3
      Roman missed something. The linkage "president - Federation Council - State Duma - government" should be supplemented by the Security Council. Silent such an organization, inconspicuous. As if she was not in the world. But what kind of monster, dictating its own rules, it can turn after a vote, is unknown.
      By the way, Roman’s article appeared on the site at 15:00, and on my phone at 20:00. Not the first case.
      And further. I would supplement the Constitution with a definition of the task of power.

      The highest authority in the country is obliged to create such conditions in the form of laws that ensure full employment of the population.

      And then what happens. The laws are such that small and medium-sized businesses eke out a miserable existence long before the era of the coronavirus. Only one survived who agreed to a corrupt course of action, that is, shared with whom it was necessary. And such, having survived, now aggressively attack everyone, defending zeroing. Even here on the topic. This is normal? But MiS provided a huge number of jobs. Now there is no.
      And the oligarchs? How could the case be set up so that the oligarchs went offshore? How could a country be made so unattractive for large business? Some diggers, rocking chairs and pumps in the form of large enterprises are being built. Brains are leaking.
      But a certain biological organization with a multi-billion dollar budget has been created, clearly planning to work within the framework of criminal eugenics. And articles have already appeared, they say, we will separate the lamb from the goats, they say, no stuffing. This bothers me especially.
      1. Mazuta
        Mazuta 25 June 2020 12: 21 New
        -1
        Then include the State Council there ...
        What is it and why no one knows, but you need to quickly nod to the TV ...
        1. depressant
          depressant 25 June 2020 12: 44 New
          +2
          A colleague, about TV - is that me?))
          Over the past year, I watched only the Victory Parade.
  • pepel
    pepel 24 June 2020 20: 47 New
    0
    And where did the author see the new Constitution?
  • Uran53
    Uran53 24 June 2020 20: 58 New
    +4
    How few all the same those who read the proposed amendments to the Constitution and even delved into their contents. I agree with Roman completely!
  • BAI
    BAI 24 June 2020 21: 19 New
    +1
    1.
    Judges are appointed by Putin; judges are dismissed by Putin.

    So this is probably good. How to remove such a judge from the Constitutional Court:
    The Russian Federation does not continue in law, but replaces on its territory illegally created state which obliges her to reckon with the consequences of his activities, including political repression ”
    - a certain K. Aranovsky judge of the Constitutional Court.
    2.
    Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life.

    Probably, the author himself deleted my comment the other day.
    You compare your goal / desire with what candidates offer you (in this case, the Constitution), you evaluate their personal qualities (honesty, legal capacity, etc.) as well as the POSSIBILITY of REALIZING what you want, and if your comparison, evaluation and feasibility is positive, go vote for it, if you don’t like it, don’t go

    And now, almost as well.
  • grumbler
    grumbler 24 June 2020 21: 22 New
    +3
    If something needs to be written in the constitution, for example, How, When and How Restricted We Can Be in Our Civil Rights .
    What quarantine showed perfectly was that everyone was forcibly quarantined.
    Many of these were ruined by business and literally doomed to poverty.
    Not "pestilence and ulcer", but the State with its draconian measures. Enterprises suffered enormous losses. And on what basis?

    Doctors still cannot agree on whether such measures were needed or not.
    Many virologists have already stated that there was nothing unusual in this epidemic (not better, but worse than bird or swine flu). Mortality is lower. And not because of some kind of "emergency measures", but just such a strain. But this time for some reason they staged this whole "apocalyptic circus."

    But the main thing, as it turned out, you can put the whole country under "house arrest" without even introducing a state of emergency. It is enough to order - "all to sit" and crouched like tsutsiki. And this is actually illegal - either enter a full-fledged emergency or do not threaten with a finger.
    But for some reason no "amendments" are provided for this.

    I am silent about the guarantees of political representation and the right to real opposition. There are many good words in the Constitution, but which of them is fulfilled?
    Do we have a normal political life? - All fiction, except for an authoritarian irremovable regime. But is this "popular vote" itself? - do not even stutter about the referendum, but as Putin was impatient - immediately "in three readings."

    In general, I will not go to this disgrace. The necessary figures even without me will be "drawn" by those who are paid a good salary for this and who receive medals "for their outstanding contribution to patriotism." But I do not intend to participate in this pornography.
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 24 June 2020 21: 47 New
      +5
      I read and understand that in our country there are many reasonable and good people. And at the same time it becomes insulting why we are ruled by mediocrities, bandits, buggers and ignoramuses?
      1. depressant
        depressant 25 June 2020 10: 51 New
        +2
        Colleague Valter 1364, mediocrity, bandits, buggers and ignoramus rule us for two reasons.
        1. The smarter, the more decent the person, the more he is inclined to weigh the pros and cons, considering the motivation for his own future act. To do something or not to do? Seeing the slightest sign of negative consequences, such a person refuses action. Even if this action will benefit many. But if in the future there is at least one offended, a decent person refuses the plan. In this regard, the subjects you listed (mediocrity, etc.) do not think about the consequences at all. Seeing the benefits for themselves personally, they act. Depending on the level of egoism, confidence in their right, skills to subordinate their own kind, they bring themselves to the level of government of the country. They are cheeky and ruthless.
        2. The task of the country's leadership is to bring smart and decent to leading levels. And the negative consequences in the form of people who are offended by the activities of smart and decent, the country's leadership should take on themselves, compensating for the losses offended and thereby freeing the conscience of smart from torment. In any case, the activities of the smart and decent will be much less destructive and much more creative than the activities of the mediocrity of bandits, pederasts and the ignoramus.
        But since the replacement of mediocrity, bandits, pederasts and ignoramus in leadership positions in our country takes place only at the level of statistical error, the conclusion is inevitable about what the highest political leadership of the country is in its moral character. It remains to not only guess, but also to see at a glance the destructive consequences for the country of such a selection of leading cadres. In practice, such a selection, as you recall, was called negative. The supreme power came to him from the assumption that mediocrity, bandits, buggers and ignoramuses would not attempt to encroach on it, which would be able to agree with them. Oh oh
        In any case, the authorities have brought the situation in the country to the point that smart and decent, overpowering their own desire to avoid the negative consequences of their actions, can begin unification. And this process can turn out to be unpredictably instant. Just as a sequential increase in salt concentration does not lead to anything at first, and then when the solution reaches saturation, a precipitate precipitates sharply. Along the way, mediocrity, bandits, buggers and ignoramuses can unite among themselves. And then power will come under attack from two sides. It seems to me that something like this is happening now. The authorities are trying to defend themselves with self-isolation and digitalization, imposing it on us as a way of life.
        Thus, the negative selection of personnel, which inevitably led to negative economic growth, does not add up to any of us.
        History shows that no one won the war on two fronts.
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 24 June 2020 21: 34 New
    +4
    I agree with the author of the article. Just turned off the speakers with military marches and songs. Residential neighborhood, all day rumble from the speakers. What for? I have a grandfather here, on Small Earth fought. Holy memory of those who died during the Second World War. But why should I listen all day to the rumble from the speakers under my windows !!! ??? Before that, days on the fly forced me to listen to instructions on wearing masks and observing a strict quarantine regime! Some associations are not good, from feature films about fascists: "Enter the registration! Those who enter the registration will eat bread and butter! Those who do not enter the registration will wake their leather Komsomol ticket!" After the adoption of amendments to the eternal reign, will there be a decree on the mandatory wearing of St. George ribbons?
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 24 June 2020 22: 13 New
      +3
      Those who put cons, let them install the speakers in their outhouse, and listen to the speeches of the leaders non stop! And I still have the right to choose what and when to listen to me!
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  • Camrad
    Camrad 24 June 2020 21: 48 New
    +1
    We, in Sevastopol, are lured into voting by quizzes. “As far as I know, seven cars are planned to be raffled, several dozens of mobile phones. It seems to me that this will be an additional good motivator that raises the mood these days - the quiz will last for all seven days, will summarize daily. Among those who answer correctly to the question, these wonderful prizes will be raffled off, "said M. Razvozhaev (Governor’s Interim Organizations).
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 24 June 2020 21: 59 New
      +2
      This is normal practice at similar events. In Novorossiysk, tokens were given to children. On tokens it was possible to get all sorts of nyashki. Information about this was distributed in schools. Teachers and children were told what a happy life they would have if they brought their parents to the polls. No tokens were issued to adults. Like this! Like in old Russian fairy tales: "Hut, hut! Become to me before, and back to the forest!"
    2. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 24 June 2020 23: 04 New
      -1
      In Soviet times, various deficits were traded directly at polling stations. However, by 9 o’clock in the morning the goods ran out
  • Karabin
    Karabin 24 June 2020 22: 02 New
    +6
    ] First: Putin must rule another 16 years. Minimum.
    Second: Putin must possess not just the fullness of power, but the imperial level.

    This was what had to be amended, if it burns like this, and not cast a shadow on the wattle fence, considering their own people as idiots. At least that would be more honest.
    1. depressant
      depressant 25 June 2020 11: 52 New
      +1
      Very true remark. However, Putin cannot directly tell the people as they are. For example, to say that the adoption of repressive pension reform is a consequence of pressure from the IMF, and therefore, the US Federal Reserve. Thus, openly designating the country as a colony of the West. And although the overwhelming number of voters does not delve into such political and economic subtleties, but seeing "negative economic growth", people will sharply listen to a few who understand. Therefore, Putin avoids such frank statements, consolidating the people not around him, but against him. For people will say: where have you been, dear? And why should we believe you now? Yes, along the way, they will turn indignant glances towards the State Duma, the Federation Council and the government. And then the indignant views from these structures will turn to Putin. In general, disguising himself, he survives.
  • Camrad
    Camrad 24 June 2020 22: 14 New
    +4
    Quote: Valter1364
    This is normal practice at similar events.


    One thing is not clear to me, the source of funding for these "lures." Are fines for violations of self-isolation and quarantine?
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 24 June 2020 22: 27 New
      +4
      No way! This was invented a hundred years ago, at the beginning of the reign of GDP. Salvage from coronovirus squats, went strictly to the personal needs of the "collective farm chairmen."

      Alternative

      On the road from the city of Murom, next to the highway to Nizhny Novgorod there is a village called Penza. Opposite it are the summer residences built back in the USSR by the employees of MZ RIP JSC.

      I’m going to the country. On the way I stop at the general store, buy a grandfather of beer and cigarettes.

      There are no problems with beer, but there is a hitch with cigarettes. There are two packs in the window, "Parliament" and "Belomorkanal."

      I ask: “Girl, dear, but is there any other alternative with tobacco?”

      After a pause, the young lady becomes in the “hands on her hips” position and gives out: “We do not need an alternative on the collective farm. "Parliament" for the chairman, and all the other cigarettes smoke! "
      1. Harry cuper
        Harry cuper 24 June 2020 23: 02 New
        -5
        Good joke
        1. Valter1364
          Valter1364 24 June 2020 23: 19 New
          -2
          This is not a joke. These are stories from my life. There is still: https://proza.ru/avtor/valter1364
          1. Harry cuper
            Harry cuper 24 June 2020 23: 24 New
            -3
            Jokes all of life come from wink https://proza.ru/avtor/valter1364 - закладку положил
  • SARANCHA1976
    SARANCHA1976 24 June 2020 22: 15 New
    +5
    -We are doing well .. -What is this with you? -...Never mind...
  • Wertgan
    Wertgan 24 June 2020 22: 19 New
    +1
    These articles of the novel are interesting to collect in a selection. Interestingly, the cycle will still be continued after the referendum passes and the amendments are adopted?
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 24 June 2020 22: 31 New
      +7
      Roman, the person is right! I talked with him for a while when they raised money for the Russian Donbass. It’s a pity, only that my prophecy came true, about one thousand nine hundred and the first humanitarian convoy!
    2. Harry cuper
      Harry cuper 24 June 2020 23: 00 New
      -2
      The amendments are ALREADY accepted. And the fact that the 1st will not be a referendum, but ... But this is not known. Nothing of this action is provided.
      1. alecsis69
        alecsis69 25 June 2020 22: 34 New
        0
        The amendments were adopted by the Duma, but not signed by the president. The president said he would sign only if the people vote.
  • MBRSS
    MBRSS 24 June 2020 22: 21 New
    -1
    I talked today with a friend. He: "and who if not Putin?" How it all started .............
    I propose instead of Putin, Alexei Kurinnoy (Communist Party). Your suggestions?
    1. alecsis69
      alecsis69 25 June 2020 22: 36 New
      0
      And who is your chicken one? What did he lead in his life? What is his business experience, but in international politics?
      1. Alexey Z
        Alexey Z 28 June 2020 20: 44 New
        0
        Quote: alecsis69
        And who is your chicken one? What did he lead in his life? What is his business experience, but in international politics?

        And who was Putin? Especially in business activities.
        1. alecsis69
          alecsis69 2 July 2020 00: 41 New
          0
          Putin led the FSB did not hear, such a small desk. As an assistant, Sobchak worked in a small provincial town - St. Petersburg, maybe you know? Then the chairman of the government, and yes, he was no one.
  • Jünger
    Jünger 24 June 2020 22: 52 New
    -4
    Personally, I did not see anything in the new Constitution that would promise me a good life

    A good life is promised not by the constitution, but by hard work, patience, discipline and undemanding. And when the author understands this, it will become easier to relate to any blizzard for which we are asked to vote periodically. And it’s better to understand it early.
  • DPN
    DPN 24 June 2020 23: 05 New
    +1
    correct article.
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  • I think logically ... occasionally
    I think logically ... occasionally 24 June 2020 23: 07 New
    +6
    Roman Skomorokhov: “Putin should possess not just the fullness of power, but the imperial level. Why should he do this? I have already said that it is not clear yet.”

    Roman, maybe I'm wrong, but for me the answer to this question is very clear. Putin wants to go down in history as a wonderful and wise reformer politician. And I would very much like to surpass Peter the Great himself. And so without fail in history textbooks about his wisdom and his wonderful deeds for the good of Russia it was mentioned many, many times. And that he was the best ruler in Russia. Is that not so? Of course it is! Any statesman would like that. But 20 years of the reign of Mr. Putin pass. In the country, economic stagnation / stagnation, corruption is blooming, the standard of living of people has been falling for several years in a row, and it seems that people have started to complain. Opposition (bastards and bastards like Platoshkin) calls for turmoil. The situation is terrible and for history textbooks it’s not good at all. Who's guilty? Well, of course not him, Putin. Guilty are those who do not implement his priceless decrees and sway prohibitively long. What to do in such a situation? Well, of course, bring your power to the imperial level and extend the term of government in the hope that it will even help. Uncle, because of his limited (just expressing his possibly wrong opinion) mental abilities, does not understand that these changes will not help him. At the same time, the people will become ever angrier and angrier as the standard of living continues to fall. Putin does not understand that the main problem of Russia is widespread corruption. Reforms in Russia are impossible without the destruction of corruption at least at the top. Dude does not understand that he is weak, and he can not do it. It's just that his character is not the same. You need to understand that the current Russian corrupt officials are the lads from the 90s. Today they have cultivated. That is, they will not use outright criminality against those who interfere with them. But the police will throw you drugs, or someone will make a call and you will lose your job, or you will just go to the cottage and disappear along the road. The only way to fight corruption is to use more cruel measures than those used by current corrupt officials. That is, to introduce the former Soviet firing squad for embezzlement on a particularly large scale. For lesser cases, plant, and put in cells to the mentally ill and maniac killers. I am sure that Peter the Great or Stalin would have fought corruption by such methods. We know they were cruel when necessary. Putin, however, due to his mentality that is inappropriate for his high rank and his gentle nature, will not do such measures. He can extend the term of his reign as long as he wants, he is not able to do anything good for Russia. He must leave, and the sooner, the better for Russia and for him - otherwise, in the textbooks on History, far from what he wants will be written about him.
    1. depressant
      depressant 25 June 2020 12: 17 New
      +7
      Colleague, I support, excellent comment. In fact, arrests and landings are underway; we read about them almost daily in the press. But there is no system in them, according to which everything is jurisdictional. And if you check the entire vertical, then you need to plant the whole. Putin cannot destroy what his power rests on. Arrests and landings - only those who are a weak link in the vertical, are knocked out of it, violating its integrity. Corruption is vertical glue. Only a new person can break this system. But I am not sure what will happen. Indeed, even the Bolsheviks inherited from the tsarist government a huge bureaucratic apparatus, thoroughly corrupt. Bureaucracy is a carrier of corruption, and even considers itself immortal. Maybe because of this, Putin is in a hurry with digitalization, and the press is constantly reporting that many bureaucratic links will disappear. Hmmm ... Some will disappear, others will appear. The bureaucracy has an amazing ability to reproduce to the detriment of the reproduction of ordinary citizens and is therefore immortal.
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 25 June 2020 13: 44 New
      +2
      The fight against corruption should be based on an ideological assessment. If the ideology is bourgeois, then this is not corruption, but simply a successful business. But the guarantor already said, as he snapped, at one time: "our ideology is patriotism!" Without the new / old Socialist ideology, no executions for embezzlement in the okrug will not help. Unfortunately. It will simply be a settlement with persons undesirable for the authorities, as in China.
  • bk0010
    bk0010 24 June 2020 23: 08 New
    +2
    It would be necessary to turn the central bank into a state bank and ban juvenile justice. As well as prohibiting deputies with impunity to prohibit and impose fines (at a minimum: the composition of the Duma that has banned is dissolved, the new composition is taking a decision) and ignore the constitution (laws that do not comply with the constitution are not enforceable, persons guilty of their adoption and execution are declared out law).
  • sleeve
    sleeve 25 June 2020 06: 43 New
    -1
    So where are our moderators? Where is the fight against insulting the feelings of believers. The author calmly brought God into the little things. But in general ... Well, everyone reads what he wants. But how is this amendment about Putin a loan. But if you hadn’t brought it in. Excluded. How would they comment then? Same? Well, after all, for Russia, the mother’s soul is torn by the author and others like him. For example, I read that in Europe, socialism. In pensions and social programs at least. It is not written at whose expense the truth. In other nuances, the same thing ... In short, down with Putin and that's it. But the point is different - the growth of protest content on the network. But for what-another question. But it’s like in a joke with the British Encyclopedia. You are all fools there. Do not write to us anymore. Two references in the British Encyclopedia are ready.