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Georgian Defense Ministry announces abandonment of Soviet cars

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Georgian Defense Ministry announces abandonment of Soviet cars

The Georgian Ministry of Defense began to receive cars and other special equipment of NATO standards. As the correspondent of the newspaper VZGLYAD reports in Tbilisi, in total, the Georgian military will receive 500 pieces of equipment.


The Georgian military department announced the receipt of Western-standard equipment and the abandonment of Soviet models. According to the available information, the equipment of the following companies comes to Georgia: German MAN, Italian IVECO, American FORD. At the same time, it is not specified on what means the cars are purchased.

Over the next few months, Georgian defense forces will have the best modern special equipment according to NATO standards

- leads the Georgian Defense Ministry a statement by the head of the department, Irakli Garibashvili.

According to him, Georgia "is surrendering special equipment from the USSR and non-NATO countries to the past."

She was uncomfortable, inefficient and unreliable. Our military deserve the best, so the upgrade process is unprecedented.

- added the Minister of Defense of Georgia.

Earlier it was reported that all regular army units of the Georgian army will soon be re-equipped with American M-4 carbines.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 16: 52
    -4
    There are suspicions where it will "emerge". Just those who ran out of GAZ 66 ...
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 22 June 2020 17: 08
      26
      To begin with, Soviet technology is now at least 30 years old ...
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 June 2020 17: 41
        +9
        And with the fact that the Georgian army and police and administration are funded from the United States.
      2. Evdokim
        Evdokim 22 June 2020 18: 04
        10
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        To begin with, Soviet technology is now at least 30 years old ...

        I agree. It’s unlikely that this Soviet special equipment can move without other special equipment. wassat
        1. boris epstein
          boris epstein 23 June 2020 15: 12
          +1
          How can you! In service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine-ZIL-131, the Urals, GAZ-66, UAZs, self-propelled guns "Carnation" and "Akatsiya", Buki, Shilki, Tochka-U, S-200, all cannon artillery-Soviet production ... Just a microscope in hand the savage is an ordinary club.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 23 June 2020 18: 01
            0
            Quote: boris epstein
            How can you! In service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine-ZIL-131, the Urals, GAZ-66, UAZs, self-propelled guns "Carnation" and "Akatsiya", Buki, Shilki, Tochka-U, S-200, all cannon artillery-Soviet production ... Just a microscope in hand the savage is an ordinary club.

            All of this we still have ...
      3. Professor
        Professor 22 June 2020 18: 07
        11
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        To begin with, Soviet technology is now at least 30 years old ...

        Trucks obtained during the withdrawal of US troops from Vietnam are operated in Tsakhal. Of course, there is no question of comfort there, these are not modern bourgeois trucks, but there are no complaints about reliability.
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 22 June 2020 18: 12
          +1
          hi And which models? Who is the truck manufacturer?
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 June 2020 18: 17
            +7
            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            hi And which models? Who is the truck manufacturer?

            M35, REO Motor Car Company
            http://archive.9tv.co.il/news/2017/01/11/237220.html
            1. Bashkirkhan
              Bashkirkhan 22 June 2020 18: 28
              +8
              Thank. Apparently, the M35 is a truly legendary truck with 40 years of service in the US Army.
        2. bobba94
          bobba94 22 June 2020 20: 16
          -3
          Immediately after Gagarin’s flight, the filmmakers made a documentary about his parents ... There was such an episode, on April 12, 1961, a collective farm truck drove up to the house of Gagarin’s parents and the driver asked Gagarin’s mother — they broadcast everything on the radio, is it really that our Yurka flew into space . The episode is good, but he did not enter the film. Why? Studebaker turned out to be a collective farm truck, but this was, I recall, in 1961
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 22 June 2020 21: 01
            +2
            Quote: bobba94
            There was such an episode, on April 12, 1961, a collective farm truck drives up to the house of Gagarin’s parents and the driver asks Gagarin’s mother - they broadcast everything on the radio, is it really that our Yurka flew into space. The episode is good, but he did not enter the film.Why? The collective farm truck was Studebaker

            Well...????? If episode did not enter the film, where did you sir manage to look at the tape in the first-born version with Studebaker?
            1. bobba94
              bobba94 22 June 2020 22: 36
              -4
              Well...??? And if I write that I was the head of the film crew ... that my aunt was in the group as an assistant cameraman ... that at that time I worked in the 5th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR, ..... that my neighbor, a pensioner, was present at editing the tape at the Mosfilm studio "before the screening of the commission ... and 23 more versions what if ...
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 22 June 2020 23: 12
                +3
                Quote: bobba94
                Well...??? And if I write that I was the head of the film crew ... that my aunt was in the group as an assistant cameraman ... that at that time I worked in the 5th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR, ..... that my neighbor, a pensioner, was present at editing the tape at the Mosfilm studio "before the screening of the commission ... and 23 more versions what if ...

                Then according to Stanislavsky - "I do not believe". In order not to bother composing 23 versions, just give a link to the material that will confirm what you said. Business then ... hi
                1. tikhonov66
                  tikhonov66 23 June 2020 12: 47
                  +1
                  [quotejust give a link to the material] [/ quote]

                  And pse ....
                  And merged, the Cossack mishandled ...
                  8-))
          2. vadim dok
            vadim dok 23 June 2020 14: 18
            +1
            A little off topic: during the Second World War, America produced ships of the "Liberty" type, they were calculated, for payback, for 2 ÷ 1 voyages to the USSR,
            but sailed to the USSR until the 70s of the last century! These ships were built in 30 ÷ 35 DAYS!
        3. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 23 June 2020 14: 01
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Trucks obtained during the withdrawal of US troops from Vietnam are operated in Tsakhal.

          Careful attitude to technology and maintenance of equipment in Georgia are such different concepts that not every imagination has enough.
        4. Ded_Mazay
          Ded_Mazay 23 June 2020 15: 03
          0
          Quote: Professor

          Trucks obtained during the withdrawal of US troops from Vietnam are operated in Tsakhal. Of course, there is no question of comfort there, these are not modern bourgeois trucks, but there are no complaints about reliability.

          Dagger is dagger, and Georgia is Georgia with all the attendant features of maintenance and operation ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 23 June 2020 18: 23
            +1
            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            Quote: Professor

            Trucks obtained during the withdrawal of US troops from Vietnam are operated in Tsakhal. Of course, there is no question of comfort there, these are not modern bourgeois trucks, but there are no complaints about reliability.

            Dagger is dagger, and Georgia is Georgia with all the attendant features of maintenance and operation ...

            Drivers with higher education are in your opinion in Tsakhal. Not at all. The driver’s profession is not prestigious, but many repatriates are not licensed for free including category C. And in general, what attitude to technology can be required from an 18-year-old boy? In Tsakhal, at one time, a soldier was put behind the wheel of an SUV. The number of breakdowns sharply decreased.
            1. Ded_Mazay
              Ded_Mazay 24 June 2020 06: 22
              0
              It's not about education and not about age. The point is financing, attitude to service and discipline. In regularly belligerent Israel, they are in every way better than, excuse me, limitrophic Georgia.
      4. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 22 June 2020 20: 57
        +2
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        To begin with, Soviet technology is now at least 30 years old ...

        This does not make it useless for use in the climate of Georgia, and if you invest some funds in modernization, on the contrary, you will agree that it is cheaper than buying new equipment with components and a used set. On the other hand, the enemy's lack of Soviet-style equipment unambiguously facilitates the task of "utilization" of any other equipment, since the moment of doubt disappears, that is, it is definitely an enemy.
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 22 June 2020 21: 13
          -2
          It’s easier for them to switch to the new owner’s technique. By the way, they modernized Soviet tanks.
          T-72SIM-1, which were noted in the 2008 war. About the rest of the weapons are not up to date, Soviet trucks are clearly metal.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 22 June 2020 21: 17
            +3
            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            It’s easier for them to switch to the new owner’s technique. By the way, they modernized Soviet tanks.
            T-72SIM-1, which were noted in the 2008 war. About the rest of the weapons are not up to date, Soviet trucks are clearly metal.

            As practice showed on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX, don’t let them, everything is past the checkout. For the change of power in Tbilisi, then quite a bit was not enough - one hundred kilometers and political will. hi
            1. Bashkirkhan
              Bashkirkhan 22 June 2020 21: 20
              +1
              hi Apparently, they considered the change of regime inexpedient.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 22 June 2020 21: 21
                +2
                Quote: Bashkirkhan
                hi Apparently, they considered the change of regime inexpedient.

                Apparently. Alas hi
      5. Max Lebedev
        Max Lebedev 24 June 2020 19: 07
        +1
        It looks like the parts are over
  2. marchcat
    marchcat 22 June 2020 16: 52
    +9
    NATO really needs such garbage dumps as Georgia, so that all their junk would be dumped there and not for free.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 17: 19
      -21 qualifying.
      Call the "junk" from MAN.
      1. ecolog
        ecolog 22 June 2020 17: 48
        +4
        and who said that the cars will be new?
        1. Simon
          Simon 22 June 2020 18: 51
          +2
          I agree! An example with Ukraine. to rustle that which is already outdated or has become unnecessary. Another example. The supply of weapons to militants in Syria.
          1. 76rtbr
            76rtbr 23 June 2020 13: 07
            -1
            By the way, where are the "donated" English cars to Ukraine ??
      2. kit88
        kit88 22 June 2020 19: 59
        +6
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Call the "junk" from MAN.

        Yes please.
        Panzerkampfwagen V Panther Ausf. G
        Grandfather said - this is bullshit. Ours is better. Any desire to argue with him?
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 21: 01
          -14 qualifying.
          I won’t even argue with you because this is how to paint the sky. That is useless. I won’t remember about Thomas and Yerema either. Now, if you posted our modern analogue to MAN, I might have entered into a discussion.
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 22 June 2020 22: 33
            +4
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Now, if you posted our modern analogue MAN

            In what area?
            Mans, for example, is known for a very interesting solution in the gearshift mechanism .... hydraulic. Which works correctly before air enters the system. And he gets there when removing the checkpoint .. and that's it .. pump this system out of service ... mano ... service, I’ll notice .. that sekas .. many hours ..
            And yes .. what is the analogue of all-wheel drive in the Urals and KAMAZ from mana ..?
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 22: 53
              -9
              In the HX line, you can easily find analogues 4x4, 6x6 and 8x8. At the same time, remember when 8x8 appeared with them, and when with us? I will not say anything about the engines of millionaires, as well as about the zf transmission. For some reason, we buy the last boxes, not ours ....
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 23 June 2020 01: 17
                +5
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                HX line you can easily find analogues 4x4, 6x6 and 8x8

                I will not find these analogues where the Urals and KamAZ trucks travel and work. I will find Scania and Liebherr there ..., mana with their rituals there no one ran into any place.
                Do you want another mana feature? Their products have no lubrication points. It is believed that it is laid down for the entire service life .. The same universal joint is supposed to be replaced entirely, even if you have one cross-piece flying out. We recently had such a base ..., the suspension fell apart ... The whole base was wise how to get him home ...
                On mans they forgot that they produce equipment for work.
                And another moment ... for some time I was following the European sport trial in Germany. Cars on the chassis of the Urals, Zilov, shishig .... there are leaders. Shishiga also successfully fights with unimog.
                And one more thing .. What is the use of millionaires of the motor if it is running a computer? These machines can’t get out of services ... treat errors ... I adjust the fuel on my old woman, I completely adjusted .... Average consumption at loading 10t ..- 25l .. at a speed of 85-90km ... and no headache with mistakes..
                And another question .. why transport companies again take Scania, KamAZ, Volvo .. dozens and hundreds .., and Mans only works in Magnet .. And this is a very simplified Man .. special order magnet.
                1. The leader of the Redskins
                  The leader of the Redskins 23 June 2020 06: 07
                  -2
                  I heard you. You are confusing the civilian lineup with the military one. In our KamAZ trucks, too, there is a separation - the cabin is painted in a different color, the upholstery of the seats is different, and so on. The Germans have cardinal ones. You just haven't seen the army MAN, haven't felt it with your hands. Therefore, it is useless to argue with you.
                  1. dvina71
                    dvina71 23 June 2020 15: 25
                    +1
                    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                    there’s a kind of separation - the cabin is painted in a different color there, the seat upholstery is different and so on.

                    And so on there is a lot of what? Can civil kamaz without preparation overcome ford 1.2m? Is there a double-sided winch? Bringing the air vents to the top? On military kamaz trucks, exclusively mechanical injection, environmental issues do not concern them ..
                    Yes, there are many other things different ..
                    By the way .. 8x8 mans in the trial blow the Tatra .. regularly ..
                2. tikhonov66
                  tikhonov66 23 June 2020 12: 52
                  +5
                  Their products have no lubrication points. It is believed that it is laid for the entire service life ..


                  - and it is true !
                  For as soon as the lubrication - ends - AUTOMATICALLY EXITS AND "ENTIRE SERVICE LIFE"
                  eight-))))
        2. rumpeljschtizhen
          rumpeljschtizhen 22 June 2020 21: 57
          +2
          Yes, such an example kit88 ... It says either not about the adequacy of perception ..... Or about it, knowledge of the topic .... And most likely something else ... in general idiocy
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 22 June 2020 22: 27
            +2
            Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
            Says either not about the adequacy of perception ..

            On what basis are such charges? The Panther’s losses are that of K. Tiger’s .. for those reasons, it’s several times more than the military ones .. often they simply didn’t reach the full battle line ..
            1. rumpeljschtizhen
              rumpeljschtizhen 22 June 2020 23: 51
              +1
              Based on the fact that the comment is completely irrelevant to the topic of discussion ... By itself, this is nonsense and controversial (you can put a bunch of photos of t34 spent for technical reasons at the beginning of the war), which again leads to distraction from the topic of the article and to the point .......
              1. tikhonov66
                tikhonov66 23 June 2020 12: 57
                +1
                "... you can upload a bunch of photos t34 you can upload a bunch of photos t34 for technical reasons at the beginning of the war at the beginning of the war
                ..."

                -? !!!
                and HOW - you (from the photo !!!) - determine that those "t34" are "worn out for technical reasons" - and not "due to the lack of fuel and ammunition - and being rendered unusable by the crew themselves"? !!
                - Well, dddduumat Ms. Dada, gram-mother ... promano-Germanic ...
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 23 June 2020 12: 53
            0
            It says either not about the adequacy of perception ...


            - dog ... Merged "sent Cossack" ...
      3. vadim dok
        vadim dok 23 June 2020 14: 26
        +1
        MAN trucks (engines) run over 1000 km and nothing! And the newest KAMAZ - how much is resorting?
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 23 June 2020 15: 20
          +1
          Quote: vadim dok
          MAN trucks (engines) run over 1000 km and nothing!

          Yeah .. tell the sand truck it .. They will laugh with you at this joke .. A million s + with only the recommended load with the predominance of traffic on the highway ..
          Under the sand, everyone pours the same way .. and man and KAMAZ .. I see them all the time on the M8 .., the quarry is behind the Courtyards ... how are they storming the slides there ... I'm with my 10 tons there somehow on the 11th I get out at 60 .., and these are good if they get out on the top row .. the engine yells so that I hear in my cabin ..
    2. Russian Bear_2
      Russian Bear_2 22 June 2020 17: 56
      +1
      It’s unlikely to be free.
  3. poquello
    poquello 22 June 2020 16: 56
    +3
    And what about the American Humvee? will still be?
  4. APASUS
    APASUS 22 June 2020 17: 03
    +4
    What does the photo of the M-63 Plamen (Yugoslavian MLRS 128 mm caliber) do on the headband for this material?
  5. Oleg kubanoid
    Oleg kubanoid 22 June 2020 17: 06
    20
    She was uncomfortable, inefficient and unreliable.

    after that, questions about objectivity immediately disappear .. because you understand that this is a pure lie .. yes cars in the USSR were not the most convenient it is true .. but to call them not reliable and not effective, my language will not turn ..
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 17: 56
      -1
      For the army, where simplicity of operation and maintenance is paramount, the cars were normal. For a citizen, of course, horror.
    2. Python 57
      Python 57 22 June 2020 18: 36
      +4
      There were no complaints against them ... 30 years ago. And then all 40 ....
    3. avg
      avg 22 June 2020 20: 55
      +3
      Quote: Oleg kubanoid
      after that, questions about objectivity immediately disappear .. because you understand that this is a pure lie .. yes cars in the USSR were not the most convenient it is true .. but to call them not reliable and not effective, my language will not turn ..

      Georgians need to remember the inscription left by our soldiers in 2008 at the base in Senak: “Comrades Georgians! Learn military affairs in this way. We will arrive - we will check. 71st Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment. " And ours should not forget about it.
    4. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 23 June 2020 13: 00
      +1
      [quoteino call them not reliable and not effective, my language will not turn around .. [/ quote]

      - after the European Parliament accused Russia of UNINSTALLING (!) the Second World War - their "language" will turn - ANYTHING.
      - alas.
  6. knn54
    knn54 22 June 2020 17: 09
    +1
    Didn’t she leave everything upon retreat?
  7. domashniy domovoy
    domashniy domovoy 22 June 2020 17: 13
    0
    500 pieces of equipment is a serious figure.
    1. Sergey Medvedev
      Sergey Medvedev 23 June 2020 07: 39
      +1
      Quote: domashniy domovoy
      500 pieces of equipment is a serious figure.

      No, not serious. This is the number of vehicles of one motorized rifle regiment.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 June 2020 17: 14
    +1
    Since they are abandoning Soviet cars, this year there will be a rich harvest of citrus fruits and grapes in Vangayu. To pay for an attraction of Western generosity is necessary.
  9. Free wind
    Free wind 22 June 2020 17: 16
    -1
    The operation of cars with eco-economy less than Euro-4 in Europe is prohibited. We have somehow extended the KAMAZ to Euro 4 and that's it, and then it's new. About the rest of the car and say nothing. Plus, for a drop of oil under the car, you can run into a fine. And in Europe, Euro 6 is already in use. Maybe this is the reason.
  10. anjey
    anjey 22 June 2020 17: 18
    +4
    "Brave Knights" in NATO skins laughingShota Rustaveli would cry laughing
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 22 June 2020 20: 42
      +2
      A fig would not cry!
      It was on the motives of S. Rustaveli that the Lermontov imperishable appeared: "Timid Georgians were running!"
      Here, in order for the Georgian army to correspond to historical truth, and they are driven by individual models of modern vehicles - and now you’ll run along the freeways, scared of oncoming passenger cars, and even with full calculation! laughing laughing laughing
  11. Piramidon
    Piramidon 22 June 2020 17: 21
    +7
    The Georgian Ministry of Defense began to receive cars and other special equipment of NATO standards. As the correspondent of the newspaper VZGLYAD reports in Tbilisi, the Georgian military will receive 500 pieces of equipment in total

    Where are we going to put new trophies? They have not figured out the old ones yet.request

    1. ApJlekuHo
      ApJlekuHo 22 June 2020 18: 39
      +2
      Where are we going to put new trophies?

      For remelting, this scrap is no longer suitable.
  12. antivirus
    antivirus 22 June 2020 17: 23
    +2
    The Turks will take such during the occupation of Georgia. economic sultan
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 22 June 2020 17: 28
    +9
    As practice has shown, in their hands any technique will be "ineffective and unreliable."
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 22 June 2020 18: 10
      +2
      Quote: Strashila
      As practice has shown, in their hands any technique will be "ineffective and unreliable."

      And GAZ-24-10, and VAZ-2106. Volga, Cap airport is very impressive !!! Nepanymaesh !!!laughing good
  14. yfast
    yfast 22 June 2020 17: 29
    +2
    Will they join South Ossetia again? You can get hold of NATO technology, half of the equipment must survive.
  15. Asad
    Asad 22 June 2020 17: 29
    +4
    Who treats the girl to her and ,, dancing ,,! Naturally, Georgia does not have money for these nishtyaks, but they will have to pay oh!
    1. Simon
      Simon 22 June 2020 18: 59
      0
      Yes! You won’t earn much on tangerines! wink
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 23 June 2020 20: 05
        0
        Quote: Simon
        Yes! You won’t earn much on tangerines! wink

        tangerines are Abkhazia.
  16. Ham
    Ham 22 June 2020 17: 31
    +4
    purely business - nothing personal ... we buy for money, you can on credit - a great way to support the manufacturer in the west ...
    Well, as for loans - they will tear off the great Georgians;) for that, they hold all Georgians and Sumerians with Poles ...
    without sucker - life is bad
  17. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 22 June 2020 17: 44
    0
    Who is sponsoring this fantastic bounty ride?
  18. ecolog
    ecolog 22 June 2020 17: 46
    +1
    on Alphardi will change. Interestingly, the wheel will be thrown?
  19. rocket757
    rocket757 22 June 2020 17: 47
    0
    What difference does it make them drop when they will again drape! However, no one has canceled the maradeka, the locals will attach it, probably ???
  20. SS-18
    SS-18 22 June 2020 17: 55
    +9
    She was not comfortable, inefficient and unreliable. Our military deserve the best


    they understood this after using the same Soviet technology .. they piled on them in Abkhazia, and South Ossetia?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 22 June 2020 20: 46
      +1
      It remains to pile in Adzharia and annex it to Abkhazia and South Ossetia in order to open the land road to Turkey.
    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 23 June 2020 13: 05
      +1
      She was not comfortable, inefficient and unreliable. Our military deserve the best


      - not otherwise, how they decided that if they had in Abkhazia not Soviet, but NATO technology, they would not be "piled on" there (by means of "other" Soviet technology 8-)

      - truly a bad dancer ...
  21. bbss
    bbss 22 June 2020 17: 56
    -1
    There will soon be a uniform with mugers.
  22. Klingon
    Klingon 22 June 2020 17: 57
    +1
    Georgian circus from the series * spite frostbitten ears and shoot yourself in the leg * wassat
    1. kulinar
      kulinar 22 June 2020 18: 25
      0
      Net Draga!
      This is the Army of Song and Dance!
  23. Professor
    Professor 22 June 2020 18: 04
    -1
    She was uncomfortable, inefficient and unreliable.

    What is true is true.
    1. kulinar
      kulinar 22 June 2020 18: 29
      +2
      Shishkina was not comfortable, yes. Especially for the driver. But in terms of efficiency and reliability, I would argue. And what is the bad army UAZ? The diesel Ural is such a fairy tale!
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 June 2020 18: 34
        +2
        Quote: kulinar
        But in terms of efficiency and reliability, I would argue

        To argue it is necessary to operate the equipment of competitors. Do you have any such experience?

        Quote: kulinar
        And what is the bad army UAZ?

        To everyone. Comfort zero, reliability too. Efficiency? What engine was there?

        Quote: kulinar
        The diesel Ural is such a fairy tale!

        What about a diesel Mercedes? Mileage a million kilometers is not the limit for him.
        1. halpat
          halpat 22 June 2020 21: 17
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          What about a diesel Mercedes? Mileage a million kilometers is not the limit for him.

          Why not 2 million kilometers? Lying like that, no need to be shy.
          Civil tractors nursing 400-500 t.km with proper service and then they begin to "crumble" gradually, that is, to fall apart.
          Though Iveka, even Mana, even Mercedes.
          Scania will be lively. But iron is everywhere iron. And about the electrics / electronics so generally not worth talking about.
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 22 June 2020 21: 40
            +1
            A million very many trucks take care of one owner. then they are sold, because in Europe it is not included in economic standards, and for this there are heavy fines. I saw Fredlaener with mileage of 1,6 million km. The engine did not express signs of fatigue. In a passenger car, an oil change after 10-15 thousand km. On trucks replacement after 80-100 thousand km.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 23 June 2020 11: 47
              -2
              many trucks take care of a million ....... don’t carry nonsense, millionaire engines are named because for the entire term of the declared resource he (the engine) does not need to do cylinder boring and ... and that’s it. everything else, connecting rod and root liners. camshafts, rockers and valves, crankshaft oil seals, timing belts and hydraulic drive, this all changes to MOT. so do not scratch about how the engine milenne skated without replacing nodes and parts.
              1. Free wind
                Free wind 23 June 2020 12: 04
                +2
                First, not you. And secondly, cars were called millionaires here, and nowhere else is there such a thing. We have speedometers - odometers were reset after 100 thousand km, they have after a million km. And not because the claimed resource is lam .. The Sky Liner bus has a 10-year warranty. And on the body 15.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 23 June 2020 12: 23
                  -1
                  they called us millionaires ... maybe. but along the way he explained why they called it that. I’ll just add that we had 3 cylinder bores coexisting, after which the engine should either be thrown out or overhauled. equivalent to a new buy, but an ambush engine number ...
                  we have speedometers after .... I don’t really have two mileage meters on the Niva, one six-digit and the other running. it is also six-digit, but with a hundred red, in order to calculate the distance of the directly traveled leg. it is reset to manual
                  I don’t know how there are skyliners and so on .... but I recently saw a cattle carrier bus (LiAZ) pretty well kept it, how old it is ...
          2. Professor
            Professor 23 June 2020 18: 32
            +2
            Quote: Halpat
            Quote: Professor
            What about a diesel Mercedes? Mileage a million kilometers is not the limit for him.

            Why not 2 million kilometers? Lying like that, no need to be shy.
            Civil tractors nursing 400-500 t.km with proper service and then they begin to "crumble" gradually, that is, to fall apart.
            Though Iveka, even Mana, even Mercedes.
            Scania will be lively. But iron is everywhere iron. And about the electrics / electronics so generally not worth talking about.

            Yeah. In Israel, buses are decommissioned after 10 years of operation, as they are further considered unsafe and banned from transporting passengers. For 10 years, there is rarely a bus with a mileage of less than 1 km. By the way, people buy these buses for ~ $ 000 and convert them into caravans on wheels.
            Trucks have even more mileage. Truck out of traffic is a loss for the owner.
            A familiar taxi driver bought his working Mercedes for personal use when the speedometer was 1 km. now 200. There was no major overhaul.
            Tesla gives a guarantee for brake pads and truck disks for 1 km.
            Etc.
    2. panov_panov
      panov_panov 22 June 2020 18: 34
      +5
      Excellent "comfortable, reliable, effective" equipment of NATO standards, perfectly destroyed and thrown, proved in Yemen by the barefoot Houthis. By the way, if my memory serves me and you "God's chosen" guys did not hesitate to use not "effective" Soviet equipment in their armed forces)
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 June 2020 18: 39
        -7
        Quote: panov_panov
        Excellent "comfortable, reliable, effective" equipment of NATO standards, perfectly destroyed and thrown, proved in Yemen by the barefoot Houthis.

        And how many shovels of equipment he delivered through the Arabs to Israel ... It’s not the reliability of the equipment, but the end user.

        Quote: panov_panov
        By the way, if my memory serves me and you "God's chosen" guys did not hesitate to use not "effective" Soviet equipment in their armed forces)

        1. God's chosen ones must be written without quotation marks.
        2. Automotive equipment too (like tanks) was adopted, but due to poor reliability and lack of spare parts, it was quickly sent to scrap. Personally talked with an over-conscript motorist to witness those events.
        1. panov_panov
          panov_panov 22 June 2020 19: 02
          +6
          It is in quotation marks, for you are not such)). A rational in your answer is, everything is determined by the end user. If he is motivated, trained, competent, and the technique will be effective and everything will be like in Vietnam)), and if not, like in your Arab-Israeli wars))
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 June 2020 19: 09
            -3
            Quote: panov_panov
            It is in quotation marks, for you are not such)).

            Go to the nearest church. They will explain everything there. And a Jew on your avatar also thought so. They brought him up like that.

            Quote: panov_panov
            A rational in your answer is, everything is determined by the end user. If he is motivated, trained, competent, and the technique will be effective and everything will be like in Vietnam)), and if not, like in your Arab-Israeli wars))

            It all depends on the teachers. The Jordanians were taught by the British and the first fought with dignity. The Egyptians, Syrians, and Philistines were taught by you. The result is known. However, history does not teach anything. You are now training the Philistine officers. No need to be a visionary to predict the result.
            1. panov_panov
              panov_panov 22 June 2020 19: 20
              +6
              Alas, not everyone determines the teacher))), unfortunately, not a little depends on the students)). Saudi Arabia, and indeed Georgia as an example to you)). And I have nothing against a Jew on my profile picture, he was a smart person.
              1. Professor
                Professor 22 June 2020 20: 24
                -1
                Quote: panov_panov
                Alas, not everyone determines the teacher))), unfortunately, not a little depends on the students)). Saudi Arabia, and indeed Georgia as an example to you)). And I have nothing against a Jew on my profile picture, he was a smart person.

                George is not an example. It was a beating of a baby. Yes, and did not teach them then plainly nobody. The Saudis simply do not want to fight. And they don’t have normal teachers.
              2. sevryuk
                sevryuk 23 June 2020 00: 04
                -1
                "And the Jew on your avatar thought the same way."
                He, like, was cross, wasn’t he?
                1. Professor
                  Professor 23 June 2020 18: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: sevryuk
                  "And the Jew on your avatar thought the same way."
                  He, like, was cross, wasn’t he?

                  And Christians do not recognize the Bible? This time.
                  One cannot stop being a Jew. These are two.
            2. hohol95
              hohol95 22 June 2020 22: 51
              -1
              Before the advent of the USSR, who trained the Egyptians and Syrians?
              In 1947, so did the Egyptians and Syrians fail to break the "back of the Zionist State" because of training from Soviet instructors?
              And only the valiant Jordanians "leaked" you because of the "British education"!
              1. Professor
                Professor 23 June 2020 19: 06
                +2
                Quote: hohol95
                Before the advent of the USSR, who trained the Egyptians and Syrians?

                Officers and generals of the Wehrmacht.

                Quote: hohol95
                In 1947, so did the Egyptians and Syrians fail to break the "back of the Zionist State" because of training from Soviet instructors?

                The Zionists were better educated, trained and motivated. And most importantly, they fought for their land, and not for someone else's.

                Quote: hohol95
                And only the valiant Jordanians "leaked" you because of the "British education"!

                Only Jordanians fought with dignity. That is why Judea and Samaria (or whatever they are in Arabic) were released by us only in 1967.

                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Quote: Professor
                1. God's chosen ones must be written without quotation marks.

                With what fright? "scoop" you write deliberately distorting the name of the USSR and dismissively with a small letter, and you demand to write "God's chosen" without quotation marks, forgetting that it was the soldiers of the "scoop" who put out the crematorium furnaces in which the Nazis burned the "God's chosen". In addition, it was the USSR that was involved in the fact that the "God's chosen" found their statehood.

                Go to the nearest church and they will explain to you "what a fright."
                a scoop is capitalized.
                The "crematorium ovens" were extinguished by soldiers of the anti-Hitler coalition. Buchenwald, for example, was freed by American soldiers. It is to this date that the International Day for the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camp Prisoners is timed. We have not forgotten anything. We remember what kind of soldiers functioning concentration camps did not interfere with holding a joint parade with the Nazis.
                the scoop did everything possible so that the chosen ones did not have their own state and Israel arose not because of, but contrary to the scoop. This is the harsh truth of life.
                1. hohol95
                  hohol95 24 June 2020 22: 48
                  -1
                  Before the advent of the USSR, who trained the Egyptians and Syrians?

                  Before the physical appearance of the USSR on geographical maps, WHO taught the Egyptians and Syrians military affairs?
                  Is it not British and Turks!
                  The French began to train the Syrians after the appearance of the RSFSR.
                2. hohol95
                  hohol95 24 June 2020 22: 50
                  0
                  The Zionists were better educated, trained and motivated. And most importantly, they fought for their land, and not for someone else's.

                  They were ALL born in the lands of the "historical Kingdom of David"?
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 22 June 2020 23: 29
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          1. God's chosen ones must be written without quotation marks.

          With what fright? "scoop" you write deliberately distorting the name of the USSR and dismissively with a small letter, and you demand to write "God's chosen" without quotation marks, forgetting that it was the soldiers of the "scoop" who put out the crematorium furnaces in which the Nazis burned the "God's chosen". In addition, it was the USSR that was involved in the fact that the "God's chosen" found their statehood.
  24. ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 22 June 2020 18: 38
    0
    In less than 30 years, impoverished Georgia abandoned the Soviet legacy. Still Armenians to put on a hungry rations.
  25. Kerensky
    Kerensky 22 June 2020 18: 55
    +2
    Where is Colchis ?!
    1. kulinar
      kulinar 22 June 2020 19: 39
      +3
      No worse than a beast lynx and cars from Kutaisi !!!! laughing
    2. svp67
      svp67 22 June 2020 19: 51
      +1
      Quote: Kerensky
      Where is Colchis ?!

      Where it was supposed to be back in the days of the USSR ...
  26. svp67
    svp67 22 June 2020 19: 50
    +3
    "Our military deserves the very best, so the renewal process is taking on an unprecedented scale."
    - added the Minister of Defense of Georgia.
    And what beautiful "glass beads" America can give ... just shine
  27. kulinar
    kulinar 22 June 2020 20: 12
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: kulinar
    But in terms of efficiency and reliability, I would argue

    To argue it is necessary to operate the equipment of competitors. Do you have any such experience?

    There was an opportunity to get acquainted with the HMMWV, MAN 4x4 and Land Rover Defender.
    Hammer in an unarmored version (they began to weight it much later) made a strong impression.
    There is not so much comfort there either. Despite the availability of space. But the automatic transmission, power steering ...
    Even "planted" on his belly was able to get out on his own. True, it was no longer an amateur at the wheel.
    Defender, the same UAZ. Comfort zero. Bare iron, mechanics. Diesel engine.
    As for MAN, also bare iron. Shakes like on Shishig.
    Therefore, I can not say anything about reliability. Perhaps besides the Briton. With Defender, life was brought together later, in a short base, civilian. Mechanics, diesel. A lot of iron! Unkillable. But I wouldn’t buy myself.



    Quote: Professor
    Quote: kulinar
    The diesel Ural is such a fairy tale!

    What about a diesel Mercedes? Mileage a million kilometers is not the limit for him.

    Civilian-YES!
    For an army all-terrain vehicle, unlikely. The engine will only remain. hi
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 23 June 2020 13: 20
      0
      Even "planted" on his belly was able to get out on his own.

      - Yes, just shitty "put". Without inspiration. 8-)
      The steeper the "jeep" - the further to run FOR THE TRACTOR ... 8-)))

      - for those who do not remember the "classics" - you can remember this truth at the link:
      https://fishki.net/auto/2076617-chem-kruche-dzhip-tem-dalshe-idti-za-traktorom.html
  28. notingem
    notingem 22 June 2020 21: 02
    +1
    Georgia urgently needs to rent an American aircraft carrier for 100 years, and preferably SIX. Well, and more .......
  29. Fitter65
    Fitter65 23 June 2020 00: 34
    0
    She was uncomfortable, inefficient and unreliable. Our military deserve the best,

    Well, then I agree, it was safer to run away for my two, throwing all the American gifts ...
  30. Kelwin
    Kelwin 23 June 2020 03: 30
    0
    And, for example, as a type of sanctions, to recognize the supplied equipment as "counterfeit". Well, then it's easier ..
  31. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 23 June 2020 11: 34
    0
    but what difference does it make on what technique they get on their neck !!!! at least on KamAZ trucks, at least on ZIL, at least on something else, the main thing is that they will no longer disgrace our car industry
  32. flicker
    flicker 23 June 2020 12: 59
    0
    Georgian Defense Ministry announces abandonment of Soviet cars
    It was high time to transfer to Lamborghini, Lexus, Tayota, etc. bully
  33. tikhonov66
    tikhonov66 23 June 2020 13: 12
    0
    Quote: Klingon
    Georgian circus from the series * spite frostbitten ears and shoot yourself in the leg * wassat


    - So it was for THIS that they were "bent" "under the protection of a NATO shepherd."

    But after all, some Georgians should well understand
    that the shepherd grazes the sheep just to CUT them.
    And the haircut ukrov and Georgians-has already gone.
    - Ukrov is "sheared" with written-off boats (they gave a loan for 200 thousand, and immediately SOLD them rusty boats for 600 thousand - IN SUCH BUSINESS "on wool")
    - Not otherwise, as in the same way the Georgians will be "cut".

    With a lousy sheep - even a tuft of wool ...
  34. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 23 June 2020 13: 20
    0
    Quote: kit88
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Call the "junk" from MAN.

    Yes please.
    Panzerkampfwagen V Panther Ausf. G
    Grandfather said - this is bullshit. Ours is better. Any desire to argue with him?



    What a clutch in the picture. It’s immediately obvious that the masters built the building ..
  35. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 23 June 2020 16: 27
    -1
    They will change the technique, but the "filling" will remain .... friends, no matter how you sit down, everyone is no good for musicians ...