The rattling corvette returned to Severnaya Verf

The head corvette of project 20385 “Thundering” returned to the Northern Shipyard, where it will undergo an initial audit and eliminate comments after the first stage of state testing. This was reported by the press service of the enterprise.

As explained, the corvette will spend about a month at the Severnaya Verf shipyard, during which time it will undergo a dock inspection, revision of the units and ship systems, troubleshooting, and also restoration of the paintwork. This will take into account the comments of the crew of the ship.

In August, “Thundering” will enter the final stage of state tests, after which it will be transferred the fleet. As previously stated, the transfer of the corvette is planned in late August, after which the ship will go to serve in the Pacific Fleet.

The 20385 Project “Thundering” is the lead ship of the series. Laid down in February 2012, launched in June 2017. Construction was delayed due to the non-delivery of German MTU power plants. The corvette was completed with Russian diesel engines 1DDA-12000 of the Kolomensky plant. The unit consists of two 16D49 engines with 6000 horsepower.

The ship is a further development of project 20380. Designed to detect and destroy surface enemy ships or submarines, organize landing, guard the coastal zone, escort other ships.

Displacement - 2200 tons, length - 104 m, width - 13 m, speed - up to 27 knots, cruising range - 3500 miles, autonomy - 15 days crew - 99 people.

The armament includes the universal naval rifle complex (UKSK) for the Caliber, Onyx and possibly Zircon, Redut air defense systems, the 100-mm A-190-01 artillery system, two AK-30-mm anti-aircraft artillery systems 630M, as well as anti-submarine complex "Package".

Comments

[Lexus]

Corvette "Thundering"

A glorious name in the past. Only in modern Russia does it, alas, evoke unpleasant associations. TAVKR "Chadashiy", floating dock "Sinking", destroyer "Burnt", aircraft "Falling", etc. As they say, get out ... we have arrived.

[Bashkirkhan]

You do not love the Motherland, as is clearly felt from the commentary. Everything causes unpleasant associations.

[Lexus]

You do not love the Motherland, as is clearly felt from the commentary.

What place do you feel? I can’t just dance on her bones. Unlike a herd of sheep in a false patriotic frenzy.

[Bashkirkhan]

What are these offensive names for the ship, floating dock and aircraft. You want to say that the mental abilities of the people who designed and operated them did not match the level of complexity of the materiel?

[military_cat]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

the mental abilities of the people who designed and operated them did not match the level of complexity of the materiel?

For the PD-50, this was clearly the case (in terms of operation).

[Bashkirkhan]

PD-50 sank during a dock operation due to metal corrosion; operation in the North did its job. The casing of the tower could not withstand the water pressure + there was a power outage, while the pumps were already threshing, constantly pumping water out of the rotten floating dock. Due to the age, the floating dock towers turned into a sieve and PD-50 sank. For 38 years without repair, PD-50 still served + he had a birth injury, which is associated with the operation of pumps. Due to their incorrect operation, at one of the moments of PD-50 testing in Sweden, a water hammer occurred on the hull and PD-50 "floated up with dents." It was noted that the steel sheets of the PD were literally pressed inward, as a result of which they had to be "digested" in an emergency manner. This was a few days before the transfer to Soviet sailors. The PD-50 also suffered damage during transportation to the USSR, when it got into a severe storm. This also required restoration. A similar situation was with the Ukrainians on the German captured floating dock with a carrying capacity of 60 thousand tons (for the battleship Tirpitz), which in the USSR had the number 4M. Krupp's steel held out for the time being, and after more than 65 years of operation, it finally cracked. The dock, the height of a 9-storey building, sank, sank to the bottom. To date, the floating dock 4M is not going to be lifted.

[ver_]

... quite according to Raikin * ... the plaster is crumbling .., but the parquet rises, water does not flow from the taps, but it flows from the ceiling .. *

[musorg]

Ram is you, dear!

[Imperial Technocrat]

This is a roomy, genuine, pseudo-communist

[g1v2]

He does not love our Motherland. He can love his own, but crap on ours.

[Trevis]

Roll like a sausage, you yourself know where.

[Hunter 2]

Good project 20385, further development of 20380. Well, with the first stage of State tests !
The ship is the Head one in the Series, so you can’t rush it, check everything clearly and ... wait for the Series!
Good luck to the Commander and Crew, Successful passing the test!

[ApJlekuHo]

Quote: lexus

A glorious name in the past. Only in modern Russia does it, alas, evoke unpleasant associations. TAVKR "Chadashiy", floating dock "Sinking", destroyer "Burnt", aircraft "Falling", etc. As they say, get out ... we have arrived.

Everything that floats - drowns, that flies - falls, even the sledgehammer breaks. AT "glorious past“everything was the same. And for the spread of decadent moods and outright ridicule of the defense industry complex, they were sentenced to 10 years in camps.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: lexus

Corvette "Thundering"

A glorious name in the past. Only in modern Russia does it, alas, evoke unpleasant associations. TAVKR "Chadashiy", floating dock "Sinking", destroyer "Burnt", aircraft "Falling", etc. As they say, get out ... we have arrived.

Alexei, I understood that you are just in a bad mood. I will not say that we have everything on the NT, but it is not worth it to succumb to decadent moods.

[paul3390]

Another thing is interesting - which smart people originally designed military equipment for bourgeois components? Well, what kind of perverted thinking you need to have .. Okay, would you buy a production license, but ready-made units? Well, this is some kind of golem sabotage!

[Nasrat]

Quote: paul3390

Another thing is interesting - which smart people originally designed military equipment for bourgeois components? Well, what kind of perverted thinking you need to have .. Okay, would you buy a production license, but ready-made units? Well, this is some kind of golem sabotage!

The German manufacturer diesel and gas engines from Maybach are some of the best in the world, I would say the best - just a classic! ... not for nothing that this production bought 100% in 2014 - Rolls-Royce Power Systems .... and the choice was right, at that time - We would have managed to equip the ships with excellent power plants - it would have been gorgeous and at that time nothing was in the way of this project ..

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nasr

..and the choice was right, at that time - if we managed to equip the ships with excellent power plants - it would be gorgeous and at that time nothing prevented this project ..

But, as we can see, the moment has changed, and even if they had time to deliver, what about spare parts and maintenance? You can't put imported units and components on domestic armaments. It's just criminal, although for some people money doesn't smell. We must admit something else, we have a normal alternative to German, and in other matters, and Chinese engines. Another question for knowledgeable people. Is this a revised Albatross?

[Serg65]

Quote: paul3390

what smart people originally designed military equipment for bourgeois components?

And it was necessary under the Kolomna diesel engines?
And yes, bourgeois components since the distant 1974 have been in the service of the Soviet Navy and then the Russian Navy!

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Serg65

And it was necessary under the Kolomna

Yes. and bring them to level. And it is also very desirable to bring to mind the mass production of the 16SD-500 (10000 hp) as quickly as possible, and create the same one (according to the scheme "quadruple"like DDA-12000 (!).

Quote: Serg65

And yes, bourgeois components since the distant 1974 have been in the service of the Soviet Navy and then the Russian Navy!

but only more often on the BDK or reconnaissance, and not on the main warships (cruiser, BOD, EM, TFR), right ?! ...

[Serg65]

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

Yes. and bring them to level

Well, let's start with the fact that the technical project for the 20380th project was ready in 2001, i.e. work on the project began in the 97th-98th years, and what about the Kolomna plant? And the Plant was dancing a lambada at that time, because it snatched an order for Russian Railways experienced I didn’t want to listen to the construction of the EP200 electric locomotive and because of this joy about any marine diesel engines!

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

it is desirable to bring to mind and mass production 16SD-500 as quickly as possible

I, too, with all my heart for this!

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

is not it ?! ...

So, but not quite so! Above, you mentioned the BDK, reconnaissance ... there were also vessels of the auxiliary fleet of imported construction ..... imported construction gave access to foreign technological innovations, for example, electrical equipment, automatic devices, starters, contact groups .... it would seem a trifle but the imported ones weighed less, were more compact and more durable, but this is no longer a trifle for a warship.
Well, putting your hand on your heart, Vladimir, for some reason Comrade Stalin didn’t bother about imported parts, but what about the parts? I ordered entire ships, I bought finished projects, guns, an engine, but there weren’t any machine tools! If the engine is the best in the world in many respects and why not take it, besides its own diesel engines are only in the future, and the ships are needed yesterday?

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Serg65

Well, putting your hand on your heart, Vladimir, for some reason Comrade Stalin didn’t bother about imported parts, but what about the parts? I ordered entire ships, I bought finished projects, guns, an engine, but there weren’t any machine tools!

Just a moment (!). Comrade Stalin, he tried to acquire production, and transfer them to the territory of his country (ensuring the development of its economy by creating industries, jobs, developing related industries and technologies, and so on.....), and not spend gold on the purchase of imported products themselves (Of course there were a number of exceptions, but mainly in wartime and pre-war time !!), only in cases of emergency ..
So, let's not confuse soft and warm. Now much in more degrees "let's just say in the Stalinist spirit / style", China and not the Russian Federation are transforming their industry. I will not repeat myself, (but there, a little lower, there is my earlier koment. on this subject), in the answer, by the example of their organization of shipbuilding programs.

[Serg65]

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

Wait a minute (!)

Yes, at least two minutes .... the leader of Tashkent, TKR Petropavlovsk.

Series IX submarines were built at the Baltic Shipyard. The first batch consisted of three boats: “N-1”, “N-2” and “N-3”. During their construction, a large number of imported equipment was used., and according to the results of their tests it was supposed to make a decision on further construction. The construction of 38 boats of the next series under the IX-bis project lasted for a long time due to the high complexity of the project. The main problems arose with the production of diesel engines

Does it remind you of anything?

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

So let's not confuse soft and warm

Let's!

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

"let's say in the Stalinist spirit / style", it is China and not the Russian Federation that transforms its industry

I’m afraid that when you carefully and without slogans understand the Stalinist spirit and the Chinese jerk, your perception of the history of bygone days can radically change!

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Serg65

Yes, at least two minutes .... the leader of Tashkent, TKR Petropavlovsk.

and ?! was it too lazy to read, or selectivity in the approach?!, my for example, -

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

(of course there were a number of exceptions, but mainly in wartime and pre-war time !!), only in cases of emergency ..

what is said is not true ?!

Quote: Serg65

Submarines Series IX were built at the Baltic factory. The first batch consisted of three boats: “N-1”, “N-2” and “N-3”. During their construction, a large number of imported equipment was used,

so where is the contradiction in what I said above, -

Quote: Vl Nemchinov

... Stalin, tried acquire production, and transfer them to the territory of their country (ensuring the development of its economy, by creating industries, jobs, developing related industries and technologies, and so on .....)

?! SW Sergey, which of us contradicts himself ?!

Quote: Serg65

I’m afraid that when you carefully and without slogans understand the Stalinist spirit and the Chinese jerk, your perception of the history of bygone days can radically change!

show me the slogans ?! how today China is fundamentally different from the policy of Stalin, who also tried the advanced technological and production capacities of the defense complex to have in the territory of YOUR country (!)making it maximally independent of imported components (primarily in aviation, navy, tank building, etc.) ?!

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: paul3390

designed military equipment for bourgeois components?

By the way, the largest floating docks PD-190, PD-41, PD-50 are all foreign cars, the USSR acquired them in Yugoslavia, Japan and Sweden.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: paul3390

Another thing is interesting - which smart people originally designed military equipment for bourgeois components? Well this is what kind of perverse thinking you need to possess ..

absolutely fair remark (!).

Quote: paul3390

Okay, would you buy a production license, but ready-made units?

Right (!). China before launching into a series such as EM type 052D, bought a license for German MTU diesel engines, and Ukrainian GTE (!), localized the production in its own territory, and having already adjusted their serial production (and gearboxes for the planned power plant), began the shipbuilding program of these EMs (!). As a result, each destroyer 052D (with a military missile force of 7500 tons) is transferred there to the fleet, for 3,5 maximum 4 years (!)and not like our fr. 22350 smaller VI (!), with a similar power scheme and power plant (!).

Quote: paul3390

Well, this is some kind of crap wrecker!

therefore, here you are probably right.

[Shadow041]

It is a pity that corvettes of this type stopped building and their series was limited to only 2 ships.

[Oleg kubanoid]

oh not a fact ..

[Svetlana]

Quote: lexus

You do not love the Motherland, as is clearly felt from the commentary.

What place do you feel? I can’t just dance on her bones. Unlike a herd of sheep in a false patriotic frenzy.

Falsepatriot is just you. Bo only false patriots demand from the state that which it cannot provide for some objective reasons. False patriots do not notice objective reasons

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Svetlana

False patriot is just you. Bo only false patriots demand from the state that which it cannot provide for some objective reasons. False patriots do not notice objective reasons

Just do not forget that these "objective" reasons are due to the counter-revolution of 91-93 years.

[d4rkmesa]

Interestingly, "Barrier" was tested? In general, it is a strange situation when the "Redut" air defense system from "Almaz-Antey" is forced to pair with other radars, now from Tula, now from St. Petersburg. They would have taken a swivel headlamp from the S-350, I think that would be enough. Certainly, the choice of "Barrier" has its own reason, but I sometimes suspect that "Almaz-Antey" would have done better.

[Igor Borisov_2]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: paul3390

what smart people originally designed military equipment for bourgeois components?

And it was necessary under the Kolomna diesel engines?
And yes, bourgeois components since the distant 1974 have been in the service of the Soviet Navy and then the Russian Navy!

I fully support. On ssv pr.864, built in Poland, there are German diesel engines of the firm "Tsigelsky-Sulzer", the mechanics had no complaints about them. Reliable unit. At the set speed of 16.4 knots, it happened to squeeze 18.5. No longer gave a large sail of the project ...

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

On ssv pr.864, built in Poland, there are German diesel engines of the company "Tsigelsky-Sulzer", the mechanics had no complaints about them.

Swiss development of the company Sulzer, Polish manufacturer of the Ziegelski plant, Poznan.

[tralflot1832]

It’s nonsense for me that the engine of a probable enemy was standing on our ship. It’s good that they refused for Crimea. I had to move the Kolomchians. I don’t know how our military diesel engines were. There were all foreign (from foreign ports) fishermen. I didn’t see the Soviet ones. On the booklets of the Kolomna diesel plant Forgive this phrase: Time will tell. (Because of the TV, I would not like to use it).