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Putin believes that the republics "seized" Russian lands with them when leaving the USSR

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Perhaps the "divorce and division of property" between the former Soviet republics did not happen quite rightly and fairly. After all, some of them, leaving, "seized what did not belong to them" - the land.


This opinion was expressed by the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin in an interview on the TV channel "Russia".


The leader of the country believes that, in fairness, the Union republics should have left the USSR with the territories with which they belonged to it:

If the republic became part of the USSR, but received in its baggage a huge amount of Russian lands, traditional Russian historical territories, and then decided to leave this Union, then I would leave, with what I came.

Putin drew attention to the fact that some errors were made in drawing up the union treaty during the formation of the USSR. In particular, it provided for the right of the republics to self-determination, but the procedure itself was not spelled out.

But many of them received from Russia part of its ancestral territories. Putin believes that they should not, after leaving the USSR, "carry gifts from the Russian people."

The collapse of the Soviet Union began around the mid-80s, and by 1991 took on an irreversible character. This led to the formation of at least 15 new independent states on the wreckage of the USSR.
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  1. Rusland
    Rusland 22 June 2020 10: 21 New
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    Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated. smile
    1. NAV-STAR
      NAV-STAR 22 June 2020 10: 25 New
      90
      A powerful statement, reminiscent of an earthquake before the birth of a giant mountain range.
      1. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 22 June 2020 10: 31 New
        101
        Yes, they did. Especially Kazakhstan. Soviet land gift to the Kazakhs.

        And the Lithuanians grabbed. Prussian Memel - the current Klaipeda is still not framed correctly.

        Vilno is also in doubt.

        I’ll just keep silent about Ukraine.

        And in Georgia, strictly speaking, Batum in Adjara is also a controversial broadcast.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 22 June 2020 10: 32 New
          0
          With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 June 2020 10: 40 New
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            Quote: BlackMokona
            Putin believes that the republics "seized" Russian lands with them when leaving the USSR

            Quote: BlackMokona
            With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.

            Firstly. Not at all necessary! They may not accept NATO. Although, in principle, they are already there.
            And secondly. But for the modern nationalizing authorities in the former titular Soviet, and now bourgeois republics, this Putin statement will force titular nationalists to at least reckon with the rights of the Russian population on their historically original Russian lands.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 22 June 2020 10: 48 New
              -83 qualifying.
              Tatyana love
              PJ's statement came out against the backdrop of continuous failures in all areas, except for his personal enrichment and his homies. A "victorious little war" always ends in defeat. The rights of their citizens who find themselves in another country are protected by authority, which 0 does not have, and not by rattling "junk". "Irreplaceable" plays to "someone else's music". After his vyboka "Anaconda" will complete the last loop on the neck of Russia. Everyone laughed at the "utilization of banderlog" - this is the same number, only the best Russians will be sent to the "chopping block". Minin and Pozharsky clearly showed whom to go to in such a station.
              1. Ilya-spb
                Ilya-spb 22 June 2020 10: 55 New
                45
                Do you want to go to the square and call a militia, Lexus?

                How did the Russian merchant Minin do it?
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 22 June 2020 11: 03 New
                  -51 qualifying.
                  Everything has its time. But where then will the slime-eaters and henchmen, following the owners, escape, quarreling with the whole World - their problems.
                  1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                    Sidor Amenpodestovich 22 June 2020 12: 43 New
                    22
                    Quote: lexus
                    public enrichment of him and homies

                    But then where will the slime-hen and the henchmen come after the owners

                    "He lies down with this mantra,
                    He gets up with this mantra. "
                    Can you at least one of what you said at least somehow confirm?
                    And it does not matter what you are absolutely sure of.
                    What matters is what you can prove.
                    When the cat has nothing to do, he understands what he is doing. And some - fantasize in the restroom about inevitable retaliation enriched with homies, as well as his lysolyum and henchmen.
                    PS You are not subscribed to Navalny? And then you have one-on-one thoughts with him.
                  2. Signore Tomato
                    Signore Tomato 22 June 2020 17: 40 New
                    +8
                    Lexus, like in 1812 and 1945?
                    Russophobia has some kind of tunnel memory. That which they need is well remembered, and that which is not necessary — they bashfully hide even in their own memory.
                2. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 22 June 2020 11: 50 New
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                  Quote: Ilya-spb
                  Do not want to go to the square, and convene a militia, Lexus

                  But who will go for such ?! lol
                  1. Soviet Union
                    Soviet Union 22 June 2020 15: 24 New
                    -17 qualifying.
                    I will go!
                    Longer who spank this nits.
                    1. standan
                      standan 22 June 2020 18: 58 New
                      +9
                      So who do you mean? Lexus
                      1. Soviet Union
                        Soviet Union 23 June 2020 10: 52 New
                        +4
                        It is Lexus ..... I am sure that there will not be a people's militia with him since he is on the wrong side.
                      2. DVR
                        DVR 23 June 2020 12: 08 New
                        +2
                        It is Lexus ..... I am sure that there will not be a people's militia with him since he is on the wrong side.

                        If you are so about Lexus, sorry. It’s just that in the discussion above it turned out too unobviously.
                        Not with him (Lexus), but behind him (like Death comes)

                        Still, "follow him" is more often used in a different sense when talking about such things as "going out to the square."
                      3. Soviet Union
                        Soviet Union 23 June 2020 14: 37 New
                        0
                        Great Russian language .... lively, not less than words it is important by whom and as said.
                      4. DVR
                        DVR 24 June 2020 00: 52 New
                        +1
                        Great Russian language .... alive, ..

                        I apologize for the "friendly fire". Fortunately, he is not seriously injured in these conditions.
                        not less than words are important by whom and as said

                        By whom and how it was said - at this moment it was difficult to understand, there it is difficult not to get confused by the discussion, taking into account the "stylistics". And, given that at the moment there are so many abominations in the comments regarding it is clear who (I am not only about GDP - about Russia as a whole), I answered with all "proletarian hatred" by inertia. Newbie to the site. All my comments except 1-2 were written during the period of self-isolation (quarantine). On the 5th ten I decided to discuss on the net because of nothing to do - I had free time. This is generally my first experience of such communication, and there are so many specific moments. I didn’t consider it necessary to look through the profiles of everyone to whom I decided to answer (which may be an omission on my part). Although, viewing some (profiles and comments) made it possible to determine the attitude towards them unambiguously.
                      5. Soviet Union
                        Soviet Union 24 June 2020 05: 23 New
                        +2
                        All the best.
            2. DVR
              DVR 22 June 2020 20: 43 New
              -1
              I will go!
              Longer who spank this nits.

              I understand you correctly that you, responding to the comment "Ilya-spb (Ilya)":
              Do you want to go to the square and call a militia, Lexus?
              How did the Russian merchant Minin do it?

              say that you are ready to go out to the square and call the people's militia, because you want to "slapped this nit." "Nit" you, as can be seen from the discussion, call the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin. Those. you are ready to convene a kind of militia to overthrow the power in Russia in the person of the President - "slap" V.V. Putin? Or did you use the word "slap" more literally, and I am mistaken in my conclusions? How do you like to spank more? Maybe on the ass you like more, as in the West today they are vaccinated?
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 22 June 2020 21: 15 New
                +7
                Quote: DVR
                say that you are ready to go out to the square and summon the people's militia, because you want to "slap this nit." "Nit" you, as can be seen from the discussion, call the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin. Those. you are ready to convene a kind of militia to overthrow the power in Russia in the person of the President - "slap" V.V. Putin? Or did you use the word "slap" more literally, and I am mistaken in my conclusions? How do you like to spank more?

                Some have already talked to themselves for a term, but either they do not understand this, or they believe that if they are outside the Russian Federation, they will not be reached. In any case, it is informative to read. wink
              2. DVR
                DVR 22 June 2020 22: 00 New
                +5
                or they believe that if they are outside the Russian Federation, they will not be reached.

                I agree, Tank. Many of the participants in the gangs of the Chechen wars, too, thought so many years later. So many years have passed, everyone has forgotten everything seems to be.
                Just the other day, Basayev-Khattab's "flippers were turned up".
                https://www.kuban.kp.ru/daily/27144/4237577/
                It’s a long-standing affair, but there are no deadlines for these matters.
            3. Soviet Union
              Soviet Union 23 June 2020 11: 00 New
              +3
              False conclusion.
              Not with him (Lexus), but behind him (like Death comes)
      2. codetalker
        codetalker 22 June 2020 14: 33 New
        11
        Yes, what kind of militia is there) We have less than 10% of such "patriots" (thank God), it just stinks a lot.
        Even on this forum it is clearly visible. 30 people hold a circular defense to the last bullet under the articles of a buffoon. The latter is in my head. Just to not work with brains ...
        1. kin
          kin 23 June 2020 20: 05 New
          -1
          Will you be whose? Of buffoons or patriots? Pontov ...
      3. donpablo
        donpablo 22 June 2020 16: 26 New
        +5
        it will not work — it’s on the remnants of Ukraine — and we have a gay parade banned
      4. kyznets
        kyznets 23 June 2020 01: 30 New
        0
        Russian merchant Kuzma Minin Sukhoruk.
    2. Putnik119
      Putnik119 22 June 2020 11: 01 New
      35
      What Ukrainian burns? Remember Bismarck: Russians always come for theirs. Do not believe? Dig the caches quickly. Maybe you still have time.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 22 June 2020 11: 09 New
        -31 qualifying.
        You need to eat. "Urya-patriots" are always the first to flee. And I will defend the Motherland with my associates. To quote phrases that were not there is the bottom.
        1. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 22 June 2020 11: 19 New
          18
          Let me ask you, Lexus, are your colleagues by any chance Boomer and Citroen called? Here you are all so "correct" against evil. Why do you have a nickname ... unpatriotic?
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            1. Ilya-spb
              Ilya-spb 22 June 2020 13: 33 New
              14
              Well, I'm not an academician yet. And I’m not going to.

              I am just a Ph.D. and a laureate of the Russian Government Prize in the field of science and technology. Almost introduced himself officially.
            2. Old partisan
              Old partisan 22 June 2020 14: 31 New
              +5
              Oh, but as soon as I read yesterday you were a veterinarian. And today he is a laureate in science and technology. Well, you already decide.
              In the meantime, I congratulate you lie.
            3. Ilya-spb
              Ilya-spb 22 June 2020 15: 17 New
              +6
              And what did I lie about?

              All information is true. I recommend to see the list of laureates of the government award in science and technology for 2017. Hint)))
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  4. Malyuta
    Malyuta 22 June 2020 18: 08 New
    -8
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Is it such a switch from Mova to Russian?

    How do i understand you wassat
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  • Poetry
    Poetry 22 June 2020 19: 45 New
    +2
    His sidekick is Zaporozhets. Stopudovo.
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 22 June 2020 11: 28 New
    14
    Change the flag on the avatar, gracious sovereign, Russophobia does not fit in with the official ideology of the CPSU.
  • DMB_95
    DMB_95 22 June 2020 14: 36 New
    +4
    Quote: lexus
    You need to eat. "Urya-patriots" are always the first to flee. And I will defend the Motherland with my associates. To quote phrases that were not there is the bottom.

    Magnetic storms, it turns out, are so dangerous ... Ek, people are wedging a tower!
  • donpablo
    donpablo 22 June 2020 16: 32 New
    -2
    we see how you "defended" your usras - in 1941 it was the Russian patriots who stood up to defend Russia, and many urya kommiki-homosexuals ran over to the side of the Nazis
    1. Vasya17
      Vasya17 22 June 2020 18: 29 New
      -13 qualifying.
      you would google the list of Russian military organizations that fought on the side of Germany and see the number of Russians who fought against the USSR.
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 23 June 2020 09: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Vasya17
        you would google the list of Russian military organizations that fought on the side of Germany and see the number of Russians who fought against the USSR.

        Google already, if measured in%, then the figure goes somewhere around zero, some of which are white emigrants. Unlike the Baltic states ... But about other countries such as France, I will be silent
      2. Vasya17
        Vasya17 23 June 2020 13: 45 New
        -3
        according to the most conservative estimates for Germany, 800 thousand Russians fought and up to 1,8-2 million estimate the real number of Russian soldiers of the Wehrmacht, ss, and auxiliary units, so be careful with mathematics
      3. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 23 June 2020 23: 31 New
        +3
        Here on VO for July 25, 2012 there is an article "How many Russians fought on Hitler's side", justifications, documents, etc., and your "modest calculations" go like a forest and, most importantly, far
        So go for a walk, Vasya wink
      4. Vasya17
        Vasya17 25 June 2020 18: 01 New
        -1
        and you believed that propaganda ??? poor fool ,,, find independent sources
  • kin
    kin 23 June 2020 20: 08 New
    +1
    Shut up. Not for you to judge.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 22 June 2020 11: 21 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: Putnik119
    What Ukrainian burns? Remember Bismarck: Russians always come for theirs. Do not believe? Dig the caches quickly. Maybe you still have time.

    I am very sorry, but it is a pity that the "mind" is not for sale. hi
    1. A good one
      A good one 22 June 2020 16: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: Malyuta
      Quote: Putnik119
      What Ukrainian burns? Remember Bismarck: Russians always come for theirs. Do not believe? Dig the caches quickly. Maybe you still have time.

      I am very sorry, but it is a pity that the "mind" is not for sale. hi

      I greet my joy, something has depressed your little Bendery piglet, breathe deeper, after your henchman the air is cleaner as if. yes Well, just don’t jump above everything, yesterday they walked over me well. I will love you, through gritted teeth, and drin for a forelock at the ready. wink
    2. standan
      standan 22 June 2020 19: 08 New
      +3
      What did you want to buy? Late boy rushing around. Carry a saucepan - they say it helps.
  • askort154
    askort154 22 June 2020 11: 41 New
    29
    Putnik119ee Remember Bismarck: Russians always come for theirs.
    Do not believe ?


    With your permission, I will continue.
    - "Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians, or playing fair, or not playing at all." Otto von Bismarck ... (1815-1898)
    - ... When the great Moltke suggested that Bismarck draw up an attack plan on Russia, Bismarck answered him ... that Moltke could draw up any plans to capture any country, but not Russia.
    "I'm not sure that the bag of your (Moltke's) bones will return home from across the Urals."
    And here is another opinion about modern Russia, a well-known Russophobe strategist, Brzezinski - "... since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite lie in our banks, you will figure it out:
    Is it your elite, or is it already ours? hi ".
    Only two centuries have passed, and what are the different views on Russia. And both aren’t a gimmick of reality. hi
    1. Nick
      Nick 22 June 2020 13: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      And here is another opinion about modern Russia, a well-known Russophobe strategist, Brzezinski - "... since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite lie in our banks, you will figure it out:
      Is it your elite, or is it already ours?

      The old Pole died, without realizing that the USA no longer belongs to itself. And the very elite, those lards that remain after dispossession in the West, will have to return to their country, lards, origin, or fly out of the same elite as soon as we accept the latest amendments to the Constitution.
  • snake
    snake 22 June 2020 13: 15 New
    10
    Quote: Putnik119
    Remember Bismarck: Russians always come for theirs.

    Does this mean that we will recover the funds stolen by the pension "reform"? Or are we not Russians? Or do we not always come for ours? Or are our pensions for 5 years not ours?
    These are the questions that concern me after reading such sayings ...
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 11: 21 New
    -43 qualifying.
    A very strange statement ...
    Then, if you look at the map of 1922 (the formation of the USSR), we need to return the Kaliningrad region, half of Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands, part of Karelia ....
    It was not ours at that time ...
    Maybe you shouldn’t speak so sharply?
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 22 June 2020 11: 33 New
      17
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      we need to return the Kaliningrad region,

      Wow, how everything is wound up, what a ball of thoughts ... fellow And warm on soft, yeah. I hope there is no need to recall the events preceding the appearance of the same Kaliningrad region?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 11: 38 New
        -26 qualifying.
        Remind please...
        After all, we are talking about:
        The leader of the country believes that, in fairness, the Union republics should have left the USSR with the territories with which they belonged to it:
        And 1945 is not 1922. Or am I missing something in history?
    2. credo
      credo 22 June 2020 11: 56 New
      35
      Read the story, and not engage in flood. Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands, Karelia, the Kaliningrad region and other lands not named by you, our country either conquered or conquered by the right of the winner - AND NOBODY GAVE THEM TO US.
      1. Roman123567
        Roman123567 22 June 2020 12: 05 New
        -20 qualifying.
        Kaliningrad region and other lands not named by you, our country has either conquered or conquered

        You take it wrong..
        Which country has conquered the Kaliningrad region ?? Well, tell me ..))
        And why did they suddenly find themselves in the Russian Federation, and not in the same Baltic states, for example ??
        The man above correctly noted - 1945 is not 1922
        1. master 52
          master 52 22 June 2020 12: 40 New
          17
          and I’ll answer you why because it was poured blood on the bulk of the Russian soldier, and the so-called Baltic states were zigzagging at that time and joining SS divisions and punitive units. RSFSR
        2. figwam
          figwam 22 June 2020 12: 45 New
          12
          Quote: Roman123567
          You take it wrong..
          Which country has conquered the Kaliningrad region ?? Well, tell me ..))
          And why did they suddenly find themselves in the Russian Federation, and not in the same Baltic states, for example ??
          The man above correctly noted - 1945 is not 1922

          And who is the successor of the USSR?))) That's right, Russia)))
          1. Doliva63
            Doliva63 22 June 2020 19: 11 New
            -4
            Quote: figvam
            Quote: Roman123567
            You take it wrong..
            Which country has conquered the Kaliningrad region ?? Well, tell me ..))
            And why did they suddenly find themselves in the Russian Federation, and not in the same Baltic states, for example ??
            The man above correctly noted - 1945 is not 1922

            And who is the successor of the USSR?))) That's right, Russia)))

            Well, everyone can declare himself who he wants. I don’t see any continuity. What is she doing?
          2. Essex62
            Essex62 22 June 2020 19: 28 New
            -4
            This is from what side the bourgeois, counter-revolutionary formation is the successor of the USSR. Ponder the absurdity of this statement.
        3. Nick
          Nick 22 June 2020 13: 04 New
          19
          Quote: Roman123567
          You take it wrong..
          Which country has conquered the Kaliningrad region ?? Well, tell me ..))

          The USSR has won if you are not in the know.
          Quote: Roman123567
          And why did they suddenly find themselves in the Russian Federation, and not in the same Baltic states, for example ??

          And the Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR, if you are not in the know. How to pay the USSR international debts, so everyone nodded to Russia, and how to divide the land that the USSR acquired, so to transfer it to the tribalt? No, my friend, he refused Soviet debts, he also refused Soviet legacy. If you want to ride, get used to hauling sledges. No other way.
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 22 June 2020 16: 27 New
            +2
            The point is not the legal succession. All former Soviet republics are the successors of the USSR.
            Only now Russia - as a "successor state" *, and others as "newly independent states" * and these are two big differences. You can even say that Russia in terms of political subjectivity is the USSR. Well, at least this conclusion is prompted by the fact that it is Russia that has taken upon itself the fulfillment of obligations under the foreign policy treaties of the USSR.
            *cm. Vienna Convention on Succession of States.
          2. Nick
            Nick 22 June 2020 16: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            All former Soviet republics are the successors of the USSR.

            This is something new. Who recognized as the successors of the USSR all the republics that are part of the USSR and by what document is it recorded?
          3. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 22 June 2020 17: 30 New
            0

            Quote: Article 2 of the Succession Agreement in respect of external public debt and assets of the USSR

            Article 2. The Parties to this Agreement are successor states USSR, hereinafter referred to as the Parties, namely:

            Republic of Azerbaijan, Republic of Armenia, Republic of Belarus, Republic of Georgia, Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic of Kyrgyzstan, Republic of Latvia, Republic of Lithuania, Republic of Moldova, Republic of Moldova, Russian Federation, Socialist Republic of Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Republic of Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Republic of Estonia and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a predecessor state.


            https://base.garant.ru/1118355/741609f9002bd54a24e5c49cb5af953b/
          4. Nick
            Nick 22 June 2020 21: 57 New
            +1
            Quote: Ded_Mazay
            Quote: Article 2 of the Succession Agreement in respect of external public debt and assets of the USSR

            Article 2. The parties to this Agreement are the successor states of the USSR, hereinafter referred to as the Parties, namely:

            Republic of Azerbaijan, Republic of Armenia, Republic of Belarus, Republic of Georgia, Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic of Kyrgyzstan, Republic of Latvia, Republic of Lithuania, Republic of Moldova, Republic of Moldova, Russian Federation, Socialist Republic of Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Republic of Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Republic of Estonia and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a predecessor state.

            You are looking for the naive old man. Here we are talking about succession in relation to debts and assets. And who other than Russia, from the former you listed, accepted and paid all the debts of the USSR? Kindly clarify. In addition, the political successor of the USSR in relation to international arms treaties, in relation to permanent membership in the UN Security Council, etc. Russia recognized as having undertaken such obligations.
    3. Cristall
      Cristall 22 June 2020 16: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: Nick
      And the Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR, if you are not in the know

      legally
      The Russian Federation is a successor, not the assignee of the USSR.
      Lawyers (Russian and American) cleverly got out of the situation with the USSR.
      And all republics of the USSR are legal successors.
      As for debts, who started to pay for it and the right of assets remained. And they are all in Moscow or abroad. The Russian Federation got assets and liabilities. But something they remember only about liabilities.
    4. Nick
      Nick 22 June 2020 17: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: Cristall
      And all republics of the USSR are legal successors.

      Who told you that? If all the former republics of the USSR were his successors, then the UN Security Council would now have 14 seats more. Learn the mat part.
    5. Cristall
      Cristall 22 June 2020 22: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Nick
      Who told you that? If all the former republics of the USSR were his successors, then the UN Security Council would now have 14 seats more. Learn the mat part.

      that’s why it’s a continuer, for the place in the UN Security Council is one and the veto was one.
      Therefore, they got out.
      There is a whole story of how and why.
      But any republic is a contractor and a successor.
      for example, the same Ukraine
      The successor of state-national traditions and the successor of the UPR, the successor state of the Ukrainian SSR, co-successor of the USSR under international treaties

      Succession in legal science is the transfer of rights and obligations from one person (subject of law) to another. Succession may arise by force of law, contract or other legal grounds.
      The fundamental international legal instruments regarding succession are the Vienna Convention on the Succession of States in relation to the treaties of August 23, 1978 and the Vienna Convention on the Succession of States in respect of state property, state archives and public debts of April 8, 1983. Both of these documents have not entered into force with respect to Russia, but they are referred to both by the European Court of Human Rights and other interstate bodies, including the CIS bodies when the USSR was divided between the Union republics.
      The primary document on the division of the USSR is, in fact, not the Belovezhskaya Agreements signed on December 8, 1991, but the Treaty of Succession in relation to the external state debt and assets of the USSR, signed four days earlier in Moscow between the USSR and 8 former Soviet republics. In accordance with this treaty, the USSR was listed as a "predecessor state", and all 15 former Soviet republics - as successor states, and the debts and property of the USSR were divided in a certain percentage.
      In addition to the aforementioned Agreement, on March 13, 1992, an Agreement on amendments to the Succession Agreement was signed with regard to external government debt and assets of the USSR, in accordance with which an Interstate Council was established to monitor debt servicing and use of assets of the USSR, led by Russia and Ukraine, Vnesheconombank was appointed an authorized bank.

      March 20, 1992 in Kiev, a decision was taken by the Council of CIS Heads of State
      "On succession in relation to Treaties, state property, archives, debts and assets of the former USSR", in which the CIS member states were named as legal successors of the rights and obligations of the former USSR. In its development, on July 6, 1992, an Agreement was signed on the distribution of all property of the former USSR abroad with a certain percentage of debts and acts of all Union republics, except for Georgia and the Baltic States, as well as, as bilateral ties between Russia and other former USSR republics developed, bilateral agreements between them on the implementation of the "debt in exchange for property" scheme.
      By a note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia of January 13, 1992 N 11 / Ugp, foreign states were notified that the Russian Federation was the "successor state of the USSR" in relation to the international treaties of the USSR.
      Russia, in particular, is named the successor state of the USSR in bilateral treaties with France, Hungary, Japan, Germany, Italy and many other states. That is, speaking in foreign policy, "Russia is the USSR itself."
      In fact, outwardly it was so: the USSR ambassadors to foreign states became Russian ambassadors (other republics were not allowed into the embassies), all Soviet conventions and international treaties continued to operate for Russia, in fact, even former Soviet citizens abroad of the USSR were certified with passports of the Russian Federation (which led to the subsequent selective revision of decisions, since this was not provided for by the Russian law on citizenship). Representative of the USSR at the UN since 1990, Yuli Vorontsov, since December 24, 1991, "without prior arrangement" became the representative of Russia and stayed at his post until 1994
      This, by the way, differs sharply from the succession of the diplomatic missions of the Russian Empire and the RSFSR: the young Soviet republic had to appoint new ambassadors, and it was still a long time to fight for the old embassy buildings. At the same time, Ukraine and Belarus quite continued to occupy the representations of the Ukrainian SSR and the BSSR at the UN, in the same way "changing the plates" on the offices and tables of meetings.
      So there is a successor, not a successor.
      It turned out to be more convenient.
      At the same time, the term "successor state" clearly does not mean full responsibility for the debts and obligations of the preceding state (ECHR judgment of 08.07.2004
      "The case" Ilascu and others v. Moldova and the Russian Federation "), in each case it must be considered separately.
      Is Russia the successor state of the USSR? Undoubtedly, as well as Ukraine, Belarus or Turkmenistan, no matter how they now reject it: the USSR is the predecessor state in relation to all the republics into which it has split.

      - Is the successor state "successor number 1"? It is not: Russia had to decide individually with the rest of its successors the issues of succession for the debts and property of the former USSR.

      - Should Russia continue the policy of the USSR in the international arena and in internal relations? No, because Russia is an independent and independent state, acting on the basis of the Constitution, the Declaration on State Sovereignty and pursuing other goals than the USSR.

      - Was there an opportunity for Russia to become the legal successor not to the USSR, but to the Russian Empire or the Golden Horde? Of course not, because each succession is unique and goes in relation to the predecessor, and not to the ancient states. It is impossible with universal legal succession to take the "inheritance" of the great-grandfather without accepting the inheritance of the father.
    6. Nick
      Nick 23 June 2020 00: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Cristall
      that’s why it’s a continuer, for the place in the UN Security Council is one and the veto was one.

      God have mercy on you! So many letters have been written about anything. Vain work. In this case, I don’t see the big difference between the successor and the successor. But if you please, continue to insist on yours. For me it does not matter and does not change the essence. Russia is the successor or successor of the USSR, the essence is the same.
    7. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 23 June 2020 07: 39 New
      -1
      It’s a pity that you don’t see. Because there is a difference, and she principled.

      After I gave you a quote from the contract (see above), I found an interesting article
      Chernenko S.V. * 2001, in which he very clearly explains the question that interests you:

      Quote: S. V. Chernenko. "Russia: successor or successor of the USSR?" **

      ... The above general considerations were necessary in order to answer the question we asked: is Russia the successor or the successor of the Soviet Union? Life answered him.
      The former union republics, the European Union and the UN recognized that Russia is the continuer of the membership of the Soviet Union in the UN, and in particular in the Security Council, as well as in other international organizations. The law on international treaties of the Russian Federation (Article 3) says that it applies to treaties in which Russia participates as a successor to the USSR. If Russia were the successor of the USSR, it could not in the order of automatic succession, like Ukraine and Belarus, “Inherit” a place in the UN, since the RSFSR was not a member of the UN. Russia would have to be admitted to UN membership and, in addition, it would be necessary to amend the UN Charter, providing that Russia, the new subject of international law, should take the place of the USSR in the Security Council. This would inevitably give rise to a number of legal difficulties. Russia continued its membership of the USSR in the Security Council as the same subject of international law, which changed its name, and from which some parts were separated.
      In this way, she can no longer in any areas of interstate relations be regarded as the assignee of the USSR. Some international obligations of the former USSR could not remain in force for Russia or underwent changes due to the fact that they belonged to those parts of its territory that were separated. Others could be abandoned, referring to fundamental changes in circumstances for which they were invariable (the so-called rebus sic stantibus doctrine). But the bulk of the obligations of the subject of international law, called the USSR, has retained its strength for Russia, since it is the same subject ...


      And further, the author explains why the official documents of the early 90s periodically encounter a situation where Russia is called either the successor state or the successor state:

      Quote: S. V. Chernenko. "Russia: successor or successor of the USSR?"

      ... It seems that Russia in some issues can be seen as a successor to the USSR, and in others - as a successor.
      In fact, the contradictory formulations of these legal acts indicate that during periods of radical social change, the accuracy of legal definitions is often neglected for political reasons and even emotions, without foreseeing the consequences of the inaccuracies made. If Russia was recognized the international community as a successor to the USSR, i.e. the same subject of international law, it cannot be considered in some respects as a new subject of international law, the assignee of the former USSR. The provision of the Minsk Agreement, later repeated in the agreements of December 30, 1991 and July 6, 1992 that the USSR ceases to exist as a subject of international law, in the light of at least Russia's continued membership of the USSR in the Security Council, should be interpreted as indicating only to change the organizational, territorial, as well as social structure and name of the subject of international law, called the USSR, and not the disappearance of this subject ...


      And then the author proceeds to the conclusion, which reveals in all its glory the principled difference between the "successor" and "successor":

      Quote: S. V. Chernenko. "Russia: successor or successor of the USSR?"

      ... Based on the foregoing, it can be argued that the Russian Empire, the RSFSR, the USSR and the Russian Federation - one and the same participant in interstate relations, the same subject of international law, not ceasing to exist, continuous.




      * Chernenko SV - Doctor of Law, Director of the Center for International Law and Humanitarian Problems of the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, member of the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague (at that time).
      ** "Russia: successor or successor of the USSR?" - "International Law", 2001, No. 3, p.35 (https://time-impressions.ru/blog/11103.html)
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 June 2020 12: 00 New
    +9
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Then, if you look at the map of 1922 (the formation of the USSR), we need to return the Kaliningrad region, half of Sakhalin, the Kuril Islands, part of Karelia ..

    And you better calculate how much we owe, then it turns out ten times more. And all that Russia acquired was only through her work, and without assistants. And then a lot of distributors appeared.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 12: 26 New
      -10 qualifying.
      Stop! I didn't bring this up. For me, my current story began, alas, in 1991. When the Union collapsed and everyone silently accepted the legacy (including borders) who got what. Yes, it was a pity that it was so easy not to go to Tbilisi or Riga, not to climb the mountains in the Carpathians, not to sit in the Yerevan cellar with a glass of "Ararat" ... But I did not ruin the Union, it was not for me to shout about injustice. But now, almost 30 years later, to start redrawing the map? !!!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 23 June 2020 21: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        But I didn’t ruin the Union, and it’s not for me to shout about injustice.

        And it was not I who lived and lives in Estonia, we struggled as much as we could, but the forces were not equal.
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  • cmax
    cmax 22 June 2020 12: 01 New
    0
    The leader of the redskins. Or maybe you will start from 1640 !!!
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 June 2020 12: 20 New
      -17 qualifying.
      I referred to the rower's speech in the galleys. So do not attribute the repainting of the story to me ...
  • Allax
    Allax 22 June 2020 14: 27 New
    +2
    And with figs? Russia is the successor of the USSR, so it has the right to all Soviet acquisitions
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 22 June 2020 22: 33 New
      -3
      Quote: Allax
      Russia is the successor of the USSR, so it has the right to all Soviet acquisitions

      legally no. Only those that were part of the RSFSR at the time of separation.
  • donpablo
    donpablo 22 June 2020 16: 41 New
    +3
    then look at the map of Russia in 1916. We need to regain Poland, Central Asia, the Caucasus, including with those territories that Lenin gave to Turkey, Little Russia, New Russia, Wallachia, etc.
    1. Camel
      Camel 22 June 2020 21: 51 New
      +1
      By the way, a thought! lol Maybe this makes them root?
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  • standan
    standan 22 June 2020 19: 10 New
    0
    From now on, please in more detail? What, where and to whom should we return?
    By the end of the 22,4th century, the territory of the Russian Empire was 2 million km1897. According to the 128,2 census, the population was 93,4 million people, including the population of European Russia - 9,5 million people; The kingdom of Poland - 2,6 million, the Grand Duchy of Finland - 9,3 million, the Caucasus region - 5,8 million, Siberia - 7,7 million, Central Asia - 100 million people. Over 57 peoples lived; 1914% of the population were non-Russian peoples. The territory of the Russian Empire in 81 was divided into 20 provinces and 931 regions; there were 1914 cities. A part of the provinces and regions was united into governor-generals (Warsaw, Irkutsk, Kiev, Moscow, Amur, Stepnoe, Turkestan and Finland). By 4383,2, the territory of the Russian Empire was 4675,9 versts (10 km) from north to south and 060 10 versts (732,3 64 km) from east to west. The total length of land and sea borders is 909,5 versts (69 km), of which 245 versts (18 km) were land borders and about 639,5 versts (19) were sea borders. , 941,5 km). (The source of information is the portal History.RF, https://histrf.ru/biblioteka/b/sostav-rossiiskoi-impierii)
  • St Petrov
    St Petrov 23 June 2020 22: 23 New
    +2
    Ukrainian, you will be given a list of what you need to return, do not fantasize
  • sleeve
    sleeve 22 June 2020 11: 57 New
    -3
    Ehhhoo! Accusers climbed! Especially about personal enrichment like ... Is it a small income or something? Envious?
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 22 June 2020 12: 38 New
    +2
    Totally agree with you. It is extremely a pity that you got so many minuses.
    Such statements from our sun-kissed and popularly beloved president are a concussion, because there is nothing behind this statement. Absolutely nothing. Half (or more?) Of the republics are already in NATO. hence the question: are we ready to fight with NATO, for Memel or Vilna?
    Other republics (Ukraine, Kazakhstan and others) will be unconditionally supported by NATO as a whole and the United States in particular in our attempt to forcefully return the territories.
    Moreover, after this statement, one should expect, as a response, at least a deterioration in relations with the republics "which have taken over the original Russian lands." I think many will want to get NATO and US bases as a guarantee of their own security.
    In addition, we should expect new accusations of Russia's aggressiveness and new sanctions.
    As for the protection of the Russian-speaking population in the republics, there is nothing for us to protect them. The economy is not enough to protect. We are not the United States, we will not / cannot introduce sanctions.
    I believe that, given all of the above, such a statement could be made only by an enemy of the Russian state ...
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 22 June 2020 14: 19 New
      +3
      Other republics (Ukraine, Kazakhstan and others) will be unconditionally supported by NATO as a whole and the United States in particular in our attempt to forcefully return the territories.

      Are you sure that the population of those territories will help NATO, and not vice versa ?!
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    2. Rain
      Rain 22 June 2020 22: 25 New
      +2
      Yeah, Ukraine has already supported) America throws off ballast, are these newly made NATO members ready to pay for NATO membership from their own pockets? )
      1. aglet
        aglet 23 June 2020 19: 24 New
        -2
        "Yeah, Ukraine has already been supported) America is throwing off the ballast, are these newly minted NATO members ready to pay for NATO membership out of their own pockets?"
        however, the other day, nata has given Ukraine the status of a special ally. so, they are torn in NATO, and NATO does not mind
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 24 June 2020 11: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: aglet
          so, they are torn in NATO, and NATO does not mind

          They have long been torn there, and they come up with all the different statuses. And NATO does not accept countries with territorial claims.
          1. aglet
            aglet 24 June 2020 18: 27 New
            -1
            "They have long been eager to go there, and they come up with all the different statuses. And NATO does not accept countries with territorial claims."
            if war happens, they will fight for NATO, in full growth and at their own expense. and with territorial claims, they’ll come up with something, the gentleman is the master of his word
          2. CSKA
            CSKA 26 June 2020 09: 46 New
            0
            Quote: aglet
            if war happens, they will fight for NATO, in full growth and at their own expense.

            I agree with you, only NATO will not fight with us. And the conversation we have about whether they will take dill there or not.
            Quote: aglet
            and with territorial claims, they’ll come up with something, the gentleman is the master of his word

            They will not come up with anything. dill and Georgia, and so on, under their full influence, it is not necessary to accept them in NATO and the EU.
  • CSKA
    CSKA 22 June 2020 17: 58 New
    +4
    Quote: lexus
    The statement of the pancreas was published against the background of continuous failures in all areas

    And let's do it without common phrases, but specifically on the facts and in what areas.
    Quote: lexus
    "Irreplaceable" plays to "someone else's music"

    )))) I cannot resist being amazed at this delusional logic. And do not tell the wise guy what kind of a plan the West has, "Anaconda" or whatever it might be called, according to which they so cleverly came up with a noose around their neck to close. This is how they cleverly came up with the idea of ​​annexing Crimea, re-equipping the army, raising the standard of living in 20 years, making the Russian Federation the 6th economy in the world, 6th in gold and foreign exchange reserves, 6th in gold (more than in the USSR in the 70s), rural to raise the economy, which the communists ruined under you, now we do not buy grain from enemies, unlike you communists. And the most interesting thing. If Putin is a protege of the West, then why have they been keeping him for 20 years? Wouldn't it be easier to put a new one every 4-5 years?
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 22 June 2020 22: 42 New
      0
      Quote: CSKA
      make the Russian Federation the 6th economy of the world, the 6th on gold and foreign exchange reserves, the 6th on gold (more than in the USSR in the 70s), to raise agriculture, which the Communists killed under you, now the enemies have grain, unlike you communists do not buy

      hmm USSR was the second economy in the world. A superpower with allies and satellites on the floor of the planet.
      Comparisons are not in favor of the Russian Federation.
      Refusing to keep half the world to become only 6 economies is not a success.
      by the way
      RATING OF COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES BY SIZE OF GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT
      The World Bank: Gross Domestic Product 2019.
      RF 11th place
      11 Russia 1,657,553.77
      а
      RATING OF COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES BY THE SIZE OF GROSS NATIONAL INCOME FOR THE POPULATION OF THE POPULATION
      The World Bank: Gross National Income per Capita 2019.
      73 Russia 10,230
      and the USSR
      GDP of $ 2 billion (660)
      and it was 20%
      The Soviet Union remained the second largest economy in the world both in nominal GDP and in GDP (PPP) throughout most of the Cold War until 1988, when Japan's nominal GDP became the second largest in the world. [
      1. standan
        standan 22 June 2020 22: 50 New
        +1
        Count in dollar prices in the 90s and you will be happy
        1. Cristall
          Cristall 22 June 2020 23: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: standan
          Count in dollar prices in the 90s and you will be happy

          any product and the price on it is just a state of price and supply at that time.
          Given the polygamy of factors, the price may be different in different periods.
          The average price of gold in 1990
          $ 383,51 for 1 ounce (troy) | $ 12,33 for 1 g (gram) | $ 12330 per 1 kg (kilogram)
          2020
          In electronic trading on Tuesday, gold futures rose by an average of $ 97 per ounce
          April Comex stock quotes jumped $ 95, or 6%, and closed at $ 1693 an ounce.
          So it can be considered in different ways.
          The same gold.
          In accordance with historical tradition and international practice, the State Bank of the USSR as a single emission center of the country has 374,6 tons of gold on its balance sheet.
          By December 2019, the Russian Federation had 2261 tons of gold
          Says this about something?
          Yes and no.
          The fact that in so much time have accumulated gold. That it has risen in price in dollars (generally in money) due to inflation. But gold is a commodity and is subject to price changes.
      2. CSKA
        CSKA 23 June 2020 11: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Cristall
        hmm USSR was the second economy in the world.

        We are all happy.
        Quote: Cristall
        A superpower with allies and satellites on the floor of the planet.

        Why not on the floor of the universe? 6 countries in Eastern Europe and 10-15 in Africa and Asia is half the planet?
        Quote: Cristall
        Refusing to keep half the world to become only 6 economies is not a success.

        Really. It is necessary to continue to contain a bunch of countries.)))))
        You girl probably did not understand me. In your opinion, I do not like the USSR? I regret that it broke up and that reforms were not carried out in it, as in China. Just short-sighted leadership policy in the economy and sponsoring a bunch of regimes around the world and led to this.
        All that I wrote above concerns that nonsense that the Lexus man carries, telling about the fact that our leadership is henchmen of the West.
        Quote: Cristall
        RATING OF COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES BY SIZE OF GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT
        The World Bank: Gross Domestic Product 2019.
        RF 11th place
        11 Russia 1,657,553.77

        We need to look at GDP (PPP), not GDP (nominal).
        Quote: Cristall
        RATING OF COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES BY THE SIZE OF GROSS NATIONAL INCOME FOR THE POPULATION OF THE POPULATION
        The World Bank: Gross National Income per Capita 2019.
        73 Russia 10,230

        GDP per capita does not reflect living standards. Do you seriously believe that everyone lives in Macau or Brunei?
        Quote: Cristall
        and the USSR
        GDP of $ 2 billion (660)
        and it was 20%

        Great. And how did you live in the 90th in the USSR in the course?
    2. aglet
      aglet 23 June 2020 19: 26 New
      -3
      "And the most interesting thing. If Putin is a protege of the West, then why have they been keeping him for 20 years? Wouldn't it be easier to put a new one every 4-5 years?"
      they are not sure that the new will also be obedient. this one is quite happy with them
      1. CSKA
        CSKA 24 June 2020 11: 47 New
        0
        Quote: aglet
        they are not sure that the new will also be obedient. this one is quite happy with them

        I’m embarrassed to ask, are you a telepathist or one of the leaders of the West that you know what they think there?
        1. aglet
          aglet 24 June 2020 18: 29 New
          -1
          "I'm ashamed to ask, are you a telepathic or one of the leaders of the West, what do you know, what they think?"
          This is the simplest explanation, and it’s troublesome to buy a new one every 4 years. and feel free to ask
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 26 June 2020 09: 53 New
            +1
            Quote: aglet
            This is the simplest explanation, and it’s troublesome to buy a new one every 4 years. and feel free to ask

            This is not an explanation, it is a fiction drawn to explain the fiction itself. What kind of elephant is there to buy someone with their financial capabilities? Do not know how they grow the so-called elite for other countries? Examples of Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states in person. And where they don’t grow, they send people from these countries with passports of americosia.
            And yet, explain their cunning plan:
            Quote: CSKA
            So, they cunningly invented the Crimea to join, rearm the army, raise the standard of living in 20 years, make the Russian Federation the 6th economy of the world, the 6th on gold and foreign exchange reserves, the 6th on gold (more than in the USSR in the 70s), rural to raise the economy, which was destroyed by the Communists during you, now we do not buy grain from the enemies, unlike the Communists, from you.

            I can add a lot to this list.
          2. aglet
            aglet 27 June 2020 11: 25 New
            0
            "What kind of elephant is there to buy someone with their financial capabilities? You do not know how they grow the so-called elite for other countries? Examples of Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states are obvious."
            for russia, the "elite" they also grow

            who did not have time to grow up, they feed the sausage

            well, about money there is no photo - money loves silence
          3. CSKA
            CSKA 27 June 2020 13: 43 New
            -1
            Quote: aglet
            for russia, "elite" they also grow

            In addition to Chubais, he did not recognize anyone else and he is not in power now.
            Quote: aglet
            who did not have time to grow up, they feed the sausage

            What are you? Actually, if you are not in the know, it was an official visit to the country of the president. What now does not feed the president in other countries?
            Quote: aglet
            well, about money there is no photo - money loves silence

            )))) So there is no evidence obtained from you.
          4. aglet
            aglet 27 June 2020 13: 59 New
            0
            "Besides Chubais, I did not recognize anyone else and he is not in power now."
            Chubais is always in power. and what did he do when he was in power, he lifted the country from his knees? or broke everything into small pieces? and the fact that you did not recognize anyone else, only says that you know little
            "Actually, if you don't know, it was an official visit to the country of the president."
            and what, many presidents arriving to us on an official visit eat with Putin in private, somewhere in an eatery?
            "So you have no evidence."
            you don’t even have what I presented
      2. aglet
        aglet 27 June 2020 11: 26 New
        0
        "And yet, explain their cunning plan."
        read the site "made by us" less before lunch
      3. CSKA
        CSKA 27 June 2020 13: 45 New
        -1
        Quote: aglet
        read the site "made by us" less before lunch

        )))))) It's funny. How did you make sai Made at us dragged, for example, to our gold and foreign exchange reserves, the annexation of Crimea or the rearmament of the army? You just have nothing to answer about your theory that our power is the henchmen of the West. You have no logic. And you do not like this site because there are facts that are not convenient for you.
      4. aglet
        aglet 27 June 2020 13: 51 New
        0
        "It's ridiculous. How did you drag Sai Made in our country, for example, to our gold and foreign exchange reserves, the annexation of the Crimea or the rearmament of the army?"
        not everything that is written about "made with us" corresponds to reality, including about gold, rearmament, and the consequences of the annexation of the Crimea. and there are few facts that have happened. basically, it will be built, it will be pledged, a profit will be made, etc.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 22 June 2020 21: 02 New
    -3
    comrade Lexus, here 90% do not know either political economy or the three laws of philosophy, and these sciences are on a par with physics, chemistry, mathematics, such a sensation is only female emotions
  • st2st
    st2st 22 June 2020 10: 50 New
    30
    Do not tell, Tatyana. Which of the former fraternal republics (I mean the owners) will agree with unpleasant facts. And that they got the lands thanks to them (the Khan's elite, Bai’s) hated Russians, and that the Russian Empire brought fleas and lice out of these now sovereign republics. And Russia cured syphilis from the patriots of Independence, which they inherited from Austria-Hungary.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 June 2020 12: 08 New
      14
      Quote: st2st
      And, that they got the lands thanks to them, so hated by them (elite Khan, Bai) Russians

      An interesting judgment from the former "brothers". What they were given, they are silent about it, and they also want to tear off the territory, and some kind of invented contributions. Isn't it time for Russia to put forward claims to these "comrades", and not with a lisp, but with strict requirements, and so that they would be forgotten once and for all.
      1. st2st
        st2st 22 June 2020 12: 21 New
        +2
        Vlad, you can be sure, Lavrov and Masha Zakharova will express their next "indignation" in a press release. Resentment, and expressing "extreme concern", that's all we can do.
        1. Nick
          Nick 22 June 2020 22: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: st2st
          Resentment, and expressing "extreme concern", that's all we can do.

          You may not be capable of anything, but Russia is now capable of establishing order in Syria, and covering the Crimeans from the Pravosek, and supporting and ensuring the existence of the LPNR, and when it is necessary to impose sanctions. And Russia is capable of a lot, in contrast to the overwhelming majority of "independent" entities.
          1. st2st
            st2st 23 June 2020 03: 36 New
            0
            That’s what Russia is not capable of doing so is to restore order at home in the hydrocarbon market. It was forbidden to import cheap gasoline, but at their own price, they skyrocketed the sky-high, despite the fact that oil prices in the world are rolling in the red.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 23 June 2020 11: 14 New
              +2
              Quote: st2st
              That’s what Russia is not capable of doing so is to restore order at home in the hydrocarbon market.

              Interestingly, you jumped from foreign policy to the hydrocarbon market.))))
              Quote: st2st
              Cheap gas banned from importing

              But do not tell who and when?
              Quote: st2st
              the sky-high price

              66 cents is sky-high? ask about gas prices in other countries and their salary levels.
              Quote: st2st
              that oil prices in the world are in the red.

              Wake up, they generally grow.
            2. aglet
              aglet 23 June 2020 19: 39 New
              -2
              "Can you tell me who and when?"
              Since June 2, a ban on the import of imported fuel has officially entered into force in Russia - gasoline is cheaper in other countries. The corresponding decree was previously signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.
              "Is 66 cents sky-high?"
              66 cents, it may not be exorbitant. and 45 pe is a very significant figure, with our prices and the level of salaries
            3. CSKA
              CSKA 24 June 2020 11: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: aglet
              "Can you tell me who and when?"
              Since June 2, a ban on the import of imported fuel has officially entered into force in Russia - gasoline is cheaper in other countries. The corresponding decree was previously signed by Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.

              Sorry did not know Well. Understood why?
              Quote: aglet
              66 cents, it may not be exorbitant. and 45 pe is a very significant figure, with our prices and the level of salaries

              You compare the ratio of salaries to the price of gasoline. In Georgia, 62 cents, and the average z.p. 28000 rub.
            4. aglet
              aglet 24 June 2020 18: 23 New
              -1
              "You will compare the ratio of salaries to the price of gasoline. In Georgia, 62 cents, and the average salary is 28000 rubles."
              But what do I care about Georgia? we have 65 cents, and 17000 is the middle class
            5. CSKA
              CSKA 26 June 2020 09: 18 New
              0
              Quote: aglet
              But what do I care about Georgia? we have 65 cents, and 17000 is the middle class

              )))))) Yeah of course. Average salary in the Russian Federation 44000. I don’t know for one person that I would earn below 25000. There are those who receive the minimum, but in the envelope 5 times more.
            6. aglet
              aglet 27 June 2020 11: 30 New
              -1
              "Yeah, of course. The average salary in the Russian Federation is 44000. I don't know for one person what I would earn below 25000."
              you are not working in the presidential administration? but about 17000 re and the middle class he was the one who declared. I didn’t know, it’s clear what a huge average salary in Russia would be, otherwise I would have definitely declared those who received it — gates, millers, and Sechins
    2. st2st
      st2st 25 June 2020 12: 19 New
      -2
      Namesake, you got an answer, all the questions
  • CSKA
    CSKA 23 June 2020 11: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: st2st
    Vlad, you can be sure, Lavrov and Masha Zakharova will express their next "indignation" in a press release. Resentment, and expressing "extreme concern", that's all we can do.

    Diplomats should do so. What do you propose?
  • NIKN
    NIKN 22 June 2020 10: 52 New
    15
    I hope that such a statement is seriously thought out. Against the background of 2020, it is difficult to predict events and perhaps this statement is justified.
    So our doctrine is not attack.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 22 June 2020 11: 02 New
      21
      Quote: NIKNN
      I hope that such a statement is seriously thought out. Against the background of 2020, it is difficult to predict events and perhaps this statement is justified.
      So our doctrine is not attack.

      Of course, such a statement has a completely logical justification!

      And it’s already absurd and not funny when the former Soviet republics continue to make claims to the Russian Federation for themselves on the historically new Russian territories!
      If you want, you don’t want, but Russia will have to defend itself and repulse the foreign aggressor, and this must be done in a timely manner!
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 22 June 2020 12: 55 New
        -8
        Quote: Tatiana
        And it’s already absurd and not funny when the former Soviet republics continue to make claims to the Russian Federation for themselves on the historically new Russian territories!

        Firstly, this is the territory of the Russian Empire, that is, Russia.
        Second, the current RF is the same stub of that very big Russia.
        Third, the populist-nationalist statements of the chief bunker, apart from pushing away the neighboring republics, will lead nowhere. (Read in the teaching staff of Stalin "On the national question")
        Fourth, Machiavelli clearly described how to create an image of an alleged external enemy to "unite" the plebs around the "leader."
        Summary, the principle of "divide and conquer" has not been canceled, and our little leader and friend of friends is ready to do anything for the sake of preserving his power, and with it his own life.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 22 June 2020 20: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: Malyuta
          and our little leader and friend of friends is ready for anything in order to maintain his power, and with it his own life.

          Are you talking about your Zelinsky right? I agree. wink
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 22 June 2020 13: 31 New
        +5
        TATIANA ..... such a statement .....
        Could this statement continue about other lawlessness? Privatization? Or am I exaggerating, Tatyana? hi
    2. Putnik119
      Putnik119 22 June 2020 11: 03 New
      20
      Do you know a lot of Putin's statements that would not have been thought out? Remember the Munich speech and the "cartoons". They didn't believe it then either.
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 22 June 2020 13: 32 New
        -4
        And has something changed? As it was idle talk, it remained
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 22 June 2020 20: 54 New
          -1
          Quote: Kronos
          As it was idle talk, it remained

          Are you talking about Putin's Munich speech ?! Cool people like you. Since then there has been Crimea, Syria, now there are protests in the United States, and a lot of things have happened. But for some, "what's in the eye, what's the dew." laughing
          1. Essex62
            Essex62 22 June 2020 21: 53 New
            0
            laughing He also muddied the bonfire in the Masonic lair? Strong, multi-super is super. I will support him, if so. I won’t even ask for evidence.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 22 June 2020 22: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: Essex62
              Strong, multi-super is super. I will support him, if so. I won’t even ask for evidence.

              Before writing your undoubtedly "highly intellectual" pearls, for a start, it would be nice to get acquainted with his speech at that period and compare with what happened in the world at that period. And then laughing is not a sin, really at whom? wink
            2. Essex62
              Essex62 23 June 2020 07: 35 New
              -3
              I very carefully, until the last truth of the time, now it’s not interesting, because I do not care, I listened to his speeches. The latter was very impressive, the proposal to be treated with understanding. In such a quiet voice and downy
            3. Essex62
              Essex62 23 June 2020 08: 39 New
              -2
              So over your ury patriotism. At first, everyone fell apart, and now they are trying to straighten something with a creak. For me it makes no difference what ebn, what is current. Traitors and revisionists. The so-called elite, having accounts, immovuha, children on the territory of the enemy, the enemies of the people.
              And what happened in the world? As they wiped their feet on the country, even any trifle of the infamous type of Balts was wiped. Just as the spread rot and killed Russian people on the outskirts of the great Soviet Empire, they spread rot and killed. One white capitulating rag at the Olympics was worth it.
      2. Camel
        Camel 22 June 2020 21: 56 New
        +2
        Well, about the cartoons - it was not idle talk, but now it has gone to the troops.
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 22 June 2020 21: 57 New
          -3
          In scanty amounts like a wunder wunder
  • Alexey Sommer
    Alexey Sommer 22 June 2020 11: 32 New
    +5
    Quote: NIKNN
    I hope that such a statement is seriously thought out.

    This is for internal use. The rating has staggered seriously. Voting is coming soon again. As the vote passes, this statement will be forgotten for a long time.
  • Nick
    Nick 22 June 2020 13: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: NIKNN
    I hope that such a statement is seriously thought out. Against the background of 2020, it is difficult to predict events and perhaps this statement is justified.
    So our doctrine is not attack.

    So we’re not attacking someone else’s, but returning our own. What has so far only outlined the question. No one has been taken for the collar yet.
  • Wolverine
    Wolverine 22 June 2020 10: 58 New
    -12 qualifying.
    Quote: Tatiana
    Quote: BlackMokona
    Putin believes that the republics "seized" Russian lands with them when leaving the USSR

    Quote: BlackMokona
    With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.

    Firstly. Not at all necessary! They may not accept NATO. Although, in principle, they are already there.
    And secondly. But for the modern nationalizing authorities in the former titular Soviet, and now bourgeois republics, this Putin statement will force titular nationalists to at least reckon with the rights of the Russian population on their historically original Russian lands.

    They will soon be asking to go back to Russia and we will take the generous under our wing.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 22 June 2020 20: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Wolverine
      They will soon be asking to go back to Russia and we will take the generous under our wing.

      No, here I am strongly opposed. Is it only part of Ukraine to Transnistria including Kiev. Let Europe divide the rest of Ukraine. wink
  • alexmach
    alexmach 22 June 2020 11: 11 New
    +8
    will force titular nationalists to reckon at least with the rights of the Russian population on their historically original Russian lands

    Yes, it will not. There is nothing to change statements alone.
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  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 22 June 2020 22: 17 New
    -1
    [quote = TatyanaA here for the modern nationalizing authorities in the former titular Soviet, and now bourgeois republics, this Putin statement will force titular nationalists to at least reckon with the rights of the Russian population on their historically original Russian lands. [/ quote]
    Do not force. Firstly
    nationalizing authorities
    receive a salary from the "Washington Regional Committee" and they do not care about
    the rights of the Russian population
    and even the rights of his people ...
    Secondly, why in the former republics of the Union should they treat Russians well if we (the Tsarist and Soviet authorities) at different times in the existence of Russia ourselves distributed our lands to the right and left, moreover, with the Russian people living in them, not caring about the fate of the latter .. .
    With what joy are Ukrainians, Belarusians, Kazakhs, etc. should worry about the interests of the Russians, if the latter are not even needed by the Russian Federation itself, the GDP should be talked not about Russia's loss of its territories at different stages of its development, but first of all about the irretrievably lost Russian people who were betrayed by transferring them as a thing along with the lands "brotherly" peoples ....
    The highest value of the Russian Federation is its multinational and unfortunately long-suffering people ...
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 22 June 2020 23: 01 New
      -1
      GDP should be talked not about Russia's loss of its territories at different stages of its development, but first of all about the irretrievably lost Russian people who were betrayed by handing them over as a thing along with the lands to "brotherly" peoples ...

      That's right, they told the truth! This is the trouble of all Russians outside of Russia.
  • IC
    IC 23 June 2020 16: 42 New
    0
    Surprisingly preserved children's naivety.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 22 June 2020 10: 41 New
    +8
    Trump said that NATO, as a structure, has outlived itself, Macron confirmed ...
    1. U-58
      U-58 22 June 2020 10: 55 New
      +5
      Now they will unite in view of the new threat.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 22 June 2020 11: 34 New
        -3
        So Putin Trump Sea and Macron have rallied against the fininter of the global bankers ... The liberal model has outlived itself (s) including the financial one. There is no growth, futures were negative, now there is no petrodollar, there is simply a dollar-regional currency.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 22 June 2020 11: 15 New
      +1
      Trump, trump. There, well-known Victoria Nuland recently rolled out such an interesting article. That will elect Biden or someone else instead of Trump and she will go to implement the program laid down there.
    3. Nick
      Nick 22 June 2020 13: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Trump said that NATO, as a structure, has outlived itself, Macron confirmed ...

      Trump and Macron simply stated a fact.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 22 June 2020 13: 57 New
        -4
        There will be enough money to maintain military bases until November, and then you need to print the quadralion and still settle in financial bubbles, and hungry LGBT blacks and tolerasts will start burning tires near the Capitol ... So. it is time to curtail bases and his hegemonic ambitions to the level of a regional power. Otherwise, nuclear weapons will have to be transferred to the Russian Federation and China, as Ukraine did in its time.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 22 June 2020 10: 52 New
    19
    The neighbors therefore rushed to NATO ... it is necessary to somehow protect the loot from Russia.
  • iouris
    iouris 22 June 2020 11: 01 New
    +1
    ... and in addition to Russian territories they will "grab" NATO territories.
  • beeper
    beeper 22 June 2020 11: 07 New
    14
    Quote: BlackMokona
    With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.

    hi And without Putin's reminder, these "square" tattered "cats" whose "fat ate" are known from the very beginning! yes
    That is why the Tribaltic limitrophes, with the territory for which the Swedes were honestly and in full paid with tsarist gold, so quickly rushed with stolen goods "under the umbrella" of the hucksters of Washington and its hyperaggressive "NATO bloc", and the rest of the "independent nations" are immensely "gifted ", too, to the same place, to" protect their sovereign territories "they kick, fiercely" bark "at Russia and ungratefully vilify their Russian benefactors! winked
  • alexmach
    alexmach 22 June 2020 11: 10 New
    +5
    I mean rush? And someone else has not rushed or what? Who is this? Are you hinting at Kazakhstan?
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 22 June 2020 11: 25 New
    12
    You might think that without this statement all the neighbors respect the interests of the Russian Federation and the Russian people! All of them, to one degree or another, are sick with Russophobia and everywhere, with the consent of local authorities, pogroms of the Russian population on ethnic grounds were organized!
  • DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 22 June 2020 11: 38 New
    +1
    They will consider this an official manifestation of aggression. But there seemed to be no specific claims.
  • DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 22 June 2020 11: 38 New
    -4
    They will consider this an official manifestation of aggression. But there seemed to be no specific claims.
  • Grits
    Grits 22 June 2020 14: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: BlackMokona
    With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.

    Allegedly they will help ...
  • georgiigennadievitch
    georgiigennadievitch 22 June 2020 14: 06 New
    +3
    It is not a fact that they will take it. NATO, in fact, is not stupid either. In addition to some gain in territory, new problems are added to them by accepting new satellites. Now the territorial factor has largely lost its significance, and then, who will pay for all this? Previously, the lion's share of the costs fell on the states. Now they no longer want to, and cannot pay for everything. And the European partners are also not eager to heap their money on the protection of sovereign and very proud Georgians, Ukrainians, etc. Moreover, God forbid, they will be drawn into a war for the interests of their local puppets alien to them. In fact, they are assigned the role of platzheads and cannon fodder. They will promise a lot of things and give very little so that they will not be bent at all while they have zelenosti.What is called "dumped and abandoned." This is already clear to everyone, with the exception of some "Svidomo" who, stupefied by years of pro-boy zombies, count on the backwardness and weakness of Russia and the help and support of "all progressive mankind." Personally, I believe that in In this particular case, better late than never. In any case, this statement of V. Putin brings some certainty and even clarity to the present and future relations with our partners in the former USSR.
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 22 June 2020 14: 24 New
    +4
    They are already there. So what's the problem?
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 22 June 2020 15: 24 New
    -4
    It smelled of war! I became even more convinced that Putin should leave!
  • Ihrek
    Ihrek 22 June 2020 17: 23 New
    0
    Quote: BlackMokona
    With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.

    They already sleep and see themselves there.
  • Vladimir Belyaev
    Vladimir Belyaev 22 June 2020 19: 00 New
    0
    they may not be allowed into NATO, but NATO bases will be added along Russia's borders
  • Amin_vivec
    Amin_vivec 23 June 2020 01: 23 New
    +1
    When they are hostile to us ... It’s more convenient to return the lands ... Remember Crimea alone)))
  • leonid-zherebtcov
    leonid-zherebtcov 23 June 2020 14: 40 New
    0
    yes they are already torn through one there.))
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 23 June 2020 17: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: BlackMokona
    With such statements, all neighbors will rush to NATO.

    Do not you think that such a statement in the future will stop joining NATO all aspiring to it anyway? What is the procedure for accepting / not accepting countries with territorial absurdities?
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 23 June 2020 23: 08 New
    0
    And they don’t get in there without this statement, right?
  • Rusland
    Rusland 22 June 2020 10: 45 New
    +7
    Wow, bring all this to NATO, additionally in a new light. They used our history up and down, know it and let them shove their world jurisprudence in one place. yes
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 10: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Especially Kazakhstan.

    so Kazakhstan was originally like autonomy
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 15: 21 New
      +1
      Someone do not agree that it was autonomy?
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 15: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Yes, they did. Especially Kazakhstan. Soviet land gift to the Kazakhs.

    there in SA in general a circus with horses
  • Sklendarka
    Sklendarka 22 June 2020 16: 17 New
    -1
    And when did Vilno do the trick?
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 22 June 2020 23: 35 New
    -6
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Yes, they did. Especially Kazakhstan. Soviet land gift to the Kazakhs.

    And the Lithuanians grabbed. Prussian Memel - the current Klaipeda is still not framed correctly.

    Vilno is also in doubt.

    I’ll just keep silent about Ukraine.

    And in Georgia, strictly speaking, Batum in Adjara is also a controversial broadcast.

    Then the Finns should return Karelia back.
  • Vita vko
    Vita vko 22 June 2020 12: 03 New
    17
    Quote: NAV-STAR
    resembles an earthquake before the birth of a giant mountain range.

    No need to be so naive. In the country that defeated fascism, which first conquered space, by the definition of fools, there were very few in the leadership. It was only in the late 80s that the thirst for power and ambition defeated the minds of politicians in the Union republics.
    In fact, the CPSU deliberately created national, economic and territorial problems if any of the republics wanted to leave the Union. This was an official position, which was known to all the top leadership of the countries and the majority of those who studied Marxism-Leninism in universities. But, unfortunately, even the threat of a sharp impoverishment of the people, military conflicts and genocide could not stop their ambitions to seize the power of the criminals who signed the Belovezhskaya agreement.
    Therefore, to begin with, it is necessary to recognize the actions of the signatories of the Bialowieza Agreement as criminals, as contradicting the results of the 1991 All-Union referendum, and only after that make territorial claims. .
  • snake
    snake 22 June 2020 13: 30 New
    -5
    Quote: NAV-STAR
    A powerful statement, reminiscent of an earthquake before the birth of a giant mountain range.

    As a result, a giant mountain range will give birth to a small mammal of the order of rodents. Well, we will not fight for these territories? And we won't even get reparations. Putin is used to forgiving debts to "fraternal" republics.
    The campaign of GDP was put up by a pack of populist statements by creative people - now he is now forced to say something like that every day.
  • Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 22 June 2020 16: 19 New
    +1
    )))) recalls voting on amendments, nothing more
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 22 June 2020 21: 59 New
    0
    Quote: NAV-STAR
    A powerful statement, reminiscent of an earthquake before the birth of a giant mountain range.

    Yes, the empirialists will not like it ...
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 22 June 2020 23: 28 New
    -3
    Quote: NAV-STAR
    A powerful statement, reminiscent of an earthquake before the birth of a giant mountain range.

    This is more reminiscent of a cheap pre-voting (pre-election hand does not rise to write because Putin has already been "elected" for life) PR.
  • Vend
    Vend 22 June 2020 10: 28 New
    +8
    Quote: Rusland
    Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated. smile
    The time has come for a big change.
  • antivirus
    antivirus 22 June 2020 10: 30 New
    -5
    The Kremlin ballet is the best in the world, and try to talk to the outskirts: "The Kremlin gave the western region, in exchange for the Crimea," if only Donbass and Slobozhanshchina were exchanged for Chernivtsi and Bessarabia
  • Civil
    Civil 22 June 2020 10: 34 New
    -29 qualifying.
    Precisely, Russia is strategically short of land, for the resettlement of the population needs living space. Especially June 22, 2020. Urgently in the battle for hectares of greasy chernozem of Central Asia.
    1. georgiigennadievitch
      georgiigennadievitch 22 June 2020 15: 23 New
      +6
      From this side, we can talk about the so-called "northern Kazakhstan" - the deserted lands, which, together with the people, without their desire, were transferred to the Kazakh SSR under the Soviet Union from the 16th-17th centuries. But after its destruction in the interests of the local elites, it became a very heavy burden for the Russian, basically the people, who lived there for centuries. They survive from there in every possible way, renamed cities and villages in the Kazakh manner, settle some "oralmans" e Kazakhs from abroad, who are given both housing and money at the expense of the state ... Our Russian compatriots are forced to abandon the developed lands, paternal houses and graves and move mostly to the more familiar South Siberia-Omsk region, Novosibirsk region, etc. This is a very difficult outcome of millions of families who were not guilty of anything, but systematically squeezed out of their habitual and familiar places for their nationality and mentality to where no one expected them anddoes not wait and start living anew. Difficult and poor. In conversations with such people, we often hear that they are forced to do this because of children who have no life prospects in modern Kazakhstan. No good education, no profession, no career So we are not talking about the land, but about the people. And for some reason, at the state level, this problem, almost three decades long, did not seem to be noticed. Neither the thought, nor the government, nor the president. Like what is yours a private private matter. Where you want, there and live. As you can, and settle down. Maybe now at least something will change.
      1. Poor
        Poor 24 June 2020 08: 15 New
        -1
        all that you wrote is true, but nothing can change, because this is empty talk, chatter. His speeches or appeals are disgusting, déjà vu, like speeches from plenary sessions of the CPSU, like articles in a newspaper, truth for 1953, well, nothing new. And what can you expect from a person who had a party card, then he quickly changed his shoes and went the liberal way. How is it usually said about such people?
  • Threaded screw
    Threaded screw 22 June 2020 10: 52 New
    -2
    Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated. smile
    With such designations, you can run for a new term, the general level of modern politics falls as a woman with low social responsibility to her knees, so everything is fine. In the end, speak no bags tossing and turning.
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 22 June 2020 10: 57 New
      +6
      Quote: Threaded Screw
      Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated. smile
      With such designations, you can run for a new term, the general level of modern politics falls as a woman with low social responsibility to her knees, so everything is fine. In the end, speak no bags tossing and turning.

      Even so, he did not say anything. It’s better than cookies that aren’t enough for everyone; stop
      1. Threaded screw
        Threaded screw 22 June 2020 11: 04 New
        +8
        Even so, he did not say anything.
        He is the president for the words should be action, otherwise it is balabolstvo.
  • Terenin
    Terenin 22 June 2020 11: 02 New
    +1
    Putin believes that after leaving the USSR they should not "carry gifts from the Russian people."
    e-iii? That's right, it's better to return for good ...

    Otto von Bismarck, First Chancellor of the German Empire:
    Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.

    Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.


    Here are how many times they said, "Don't be dashing while it is quiet ..."
  • AnderS
    AnderS 22 June 2020 11: 10 New
    -11 qualifying.
    Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated. smile

    It's just that the feeder has decreased, and "our" oligarchs are accustomed to eating in three throats, so I'm casting a fishing rod to justify the expansion of the food base. For the same reason, the Russian Empire annexed Kazakhstan and Central Asia at one time. I am surprised why it never occurred to anyone in the Kremlin to recognize the Russian Federation as the legal successor of the Russian Empire, and not just the USSR. Then you can not only claim all the former republics of the USSR, but also Finland and Poland. Well, the trouble is the beginning.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 June 2020 15: 16 New
      +4
      60% of the territory of modern Poland was not part of the Russian Empire.
    2. Poor
      Poor 24 June 2020 08: 23 New
      +1
      I think it is necessary to ban the TV laughing
  • avg
    avg 22 June 2020 11: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: Rusland
    Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated.

    Absolutely right.
    It’s a pity they didn’t do it before, now it would be much easier to talk with all the neighbors. It would be nice to officially publish the alignment of the economies of the republics of the USSR and CMEA.
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 22 June 2020 11: 22 New
    -2
    Quote: Rusland
    Well, thank God, at the official level this is indicated.

    Well, yes, yes, let's arrange a small victorious war? So you need to understand this? As in 1904, when the popularity of nicholas rapidly declined?
  • SOVIET UNION 2
    SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 11: 25 New
    17
    And what does this statement give? The return of territories by military methods or economic? And where are the claims against his mentor who put Putin in the presidency? This is not EBN distributed Kemsky parish? And what about the order bearer Gorbachev? It was not he who surrendered the countries of the social camp and the USSR? And who should be blamed for the anti-Russian sentiments of the former republics? Why Ukraine under Putin did not become part of Russia, and surrendered to the states? Grandmaster loses game after game ?! What did Putin do to collect the territories of the USSR and RI? Do we need this? And why did it have to RI and the USSR?
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 22 June 2020 12: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      And who is to blame for the anti-Russian sentiments of the former republics? Why Ukraine under Putin did not become part of Russia, and surrendered to the states?

      Like it or not, you need to blame the top of the CPSU including these:
      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      This is not EBN distributed Kemsky parish? And what about the order bearer Gorbachev? He didn’t pass the socialist camp countries and the USSR?

      Who else but the top of the CPSU, including the listed and not listed "comrades", created national republics, increased their land, economy, scientific potential and turned a blind eye to Russophobia flourishing in the republics? This is a rhetorical question for any reasonable individual. request
  • Ironcity
    Ironcity 22 June 2020 12: 04 New
    +1
    Yeah, grandfather will nullify, it’s really bad. To all the failures in foreign policy, it only remains to quarrel with the few former republics with which relations are still normal. Territorial claims are a great move.
  • Bronekot
    Bronekot 22 June 2020 12: 42 New
    +4
    I would not say that thank God. This is from hopelessness he. Everywhere failures. And I want to be on horseback with the Crimea. I think this is only rhetoric for the people, and the main message is Vote For.
  • zenion
    zenion 22 June 2020 14: 52 New
    0
    So you need to thank the one to whom Putin built the palace of worship.
  • poddv1ktor
    poddv1ktor 22 June 2020 18: 03 New
    0
    It is high time. And then they raked the Russian lands, and even download the rights. Russia, it is necessary to conduct not defensive policies, but offensive. It is necessary now, rub
    to try to return the Russian lands, unreasonably transferred to the former republics of the USSR (now independent states), at the level of the Duma, the Council of the Federation and the President, to break all agreements, upon leaving the USSR, to make calculations of how much Russian money has been contributed for development of these republics, and then invoice, including for the rental of Russian lands, for the entire period of operation
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 23 June 2020 06: 19 New
    -2
    Wise guy zeroed out!
    Why did the Chinese give Damansky Island ???
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  • Peter Tverdokhlebov
    Peter Tverdokhlebov 22 June 2020 10: 23 New
    17
    They returned Crimea, it's time to return the Donbass!
    1. Gorecc
      Gorecc 22 June 2020 10: 44 New
      -21 qualifying.
      and then you are still surprised at what everyone is talking about the Russian threat, smile
      p / s after Donbass what's next, so out of idle curiosity I ask)
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 22 June 2020 10: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: Gorecc
        and then you are still surprised at what everyone is talking about the Russian threat, smile
        p / s after Donbass what's next, so out of idle curiosity I ask)

        We are not surprised, but you get into the trouble. wink
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 June 2020 10: 54 New
        22
        Quote: Gorecc
        and then you are still surprised at what everyone is talking about the Russian threat,

        Putin then talks about the lands that the republics seized from Russia when they illegally withdrew from the USSR. Notice, he does not mean to conquer the neighboring republics completely, but to return what ours has always been. So where does the aggression, dear.
        If your guest, grabbing yours, leaving, will you put up with this?
        Quote: Gorecc
        p / s after Donbass what's next, so out of idle curiosity I ask)

        Kiev itself has torn away from itself both Crimea and Donbass. Russia has nothing to do with it. Or is it Russian troops ironed with bombs of Donbass for 6 years?
        1. fiberboard
          fiberboard 22 June 2020 14: 07 New
          +8
          That is the question, who previously left the Union, Russia or Kazakhstan. As far as I know, the Central Asian republics tried to save the Union.
        2. WIKI
          WIKI 22 June 2020 14: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          Putin then talks about the lands that the republics seized from Russia when they illegally withdrew from the USSR.

          Russia also illegally withdrew from the USSR. One lawlessness has given rise to another. The solution to this issue is also seen as lawless. It was not worthwhile to raise this problem, which has no legal solution.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 22 June 2020 14: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: WIKI
            Russia also illegally withdrew from the USSR.

            And I said that the collapse of the USSR, with subsequent conspiracy in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, is ILLEGAL, because the people voted FOR THE USSR in a referendum.
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 22 June 2020 15: 24 New
              +5
              This question is addressed to Putin, not to you. If he designated this issue as a problem, then how the leader should present a solution to it. And so, it's just a chatter and a game for the public.
        3. AnderS
          AnderS 22 June 2020 22: 10 New
          +2
          Putin then talks about the lands that the republics seized from Russia when they illegally withdrew from the USSR.

          You write as if Russia itself legally seceded from the USSR if other republics left it illegally. Moreover, Russia was not the last to emerge from there. It can be traced back to the declarations of independence of different republics. Moreover, the leadership of the RSFSR in the person of Bori-drunk used the secession from the Union of the same Baltic states to weaken the influence of the union leadership .. And who does not remember Yeltsin's calls to the subjects of the Russian Federation - "Take independence as much as you can ". So the fact that Russia has preserved its integrity cannot be called anything other than a miracle.
      3. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 22 June 2020 11: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Gorecc
        and then you are still surprised at what everyone is talking about the Russian threat, smile
        p / s after Donbass what's next, so out of idle curiosity I ask)

        Alaska, sir.
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 23 June 2020 07: 28 New
          -1
          What the hell is Alaska for? We already have enough places, where you can freeze your ears .. Moreover, it was sold by agreement of the parties, and we are talking about illegally alienated territories, much more useful ..
      4. Terenin
        Terenin 22 June 2020 11: 11 New
        0
        Quote: Gorecc
        p / s after Donbass what's next, so out of idle curiosity I ask)

        Yes, not out of idle ... shivering shaky, at the NATO belt around Russia? and this is only from words ...
        Stop sunbathing on business trips and feel the Baltic girls in taverns. We'll have to put up real round-the-clock posts yes That service would not seem honey.
      5. avg
        avg 22 June 2020 11: 30 New
        +6
        Quote: Gorecc
        and then you are still surprised at what everyone is talking about the Russian threat,
        p / s after Donbass what's next, so out of idle curiosity I ask)

        Can you imagine how you would live if Russia suddenly decided to comply with all these voiced threats? (So, I reply to idle curiosity).
      6. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 11: 31 New
        0
        What is the Russian threat? The fact that especially gifted leaders distributed the territory of the USSR? Is the West afraid that it will not digest yet another territorial concession to Russia? Ukraine has already crossed the throat? Not swallowed? Want to spit it out?
        1. avg
          avg 22 June 2020 15: 34 New
          -3
          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          Is the West afraid that it will not digest yet another territorial concession to Russia? Ukraine has already crossed the throat? Not swallowed? Want to spit it out?

          What the fuck are you in the Soviet Union, you grunt Khokhlushkin. Too high an opinion about themselves, the ruin is not swallowed ... Yes, just do not eat shit.
          1. SOVIET UNION 2
            SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 16: 42 New
            +3
            So who grunts avg to whom? avg for all the Union republics to join the EU? Who the shit don't eat avg? avg is the EU, Russia or the United States? avg can explain who is afraid of the West? Since the time of Gorbachev, Russia has not taken anything from the West, but only left it to him! The last gift to the West is Ukraine!
      7. Shadow041
        Shadow041 22 June 2020 11: 31 New
        10
        When, in your republics of the former USSR, which separated from Russia, organized massacres of the Russian population on ethnic grounds, yelling that you are the titular nation, what did you not think about how the Russian Federation would react to it and what Russians in Russia would think about you ?! And now there’s nothing to blame for the mirror if the face is crooked ...
        1. Bronekot
          Bronekot 22 June 2020 12: 44 New
          +1
          And then it was necessary to react harshly in imperial terms. And now it's like blah blah
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 22 June 2020 17: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: Pyotr Tverdokhlebov
      They returned Crimea, it's time to return the Donbass!

      13: 25 11.06.2020
      MOSCOW, June 11 - RIA News.
      "These are self-proclaimed republics that announced their withdrawal from Ukraine, and, of course, we all work to ensure that Ukraine becomes a single countrywhere this internal Ukrainian conflict will end, "Peskov said, answering the question of whether there are changes in the Kremlin's position on the settlement in Donbass.
      https://ria.ru/20200611/1572803145.html
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 22 June 2020 10: 23 New
    18
    Only one Ukraine grabbed.
    1. Tatyana Pershina
      Tatyana Pershina 22 June 2020 10: 48 New
      +3
      What is Ukraine! One large (at least in terms of territory) state did not exist at all, which even the border line speaks of - evenly, drawn along the line.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 22 June 2020 10: 24 New
    12
    Putin believes that after leaving the USSR they should not "carry gifts from the Russian people."
    Really will return? Now probably the leaders of the post-Soviet states have broken cold sweat. And at Trump, go, the phone is torn from their calls.
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 22 June 2020 10: 42 New
      +1
      It’s not Trump who’s calling, but Biden and Clinton ...
  • Igor Polovodov
    Igor Polovodov 22 June 2020 10: 26 New
    +8
    We don’t forget about Kazakhstan either ...
    1. rotfuks
      rotfuks 22 June 2020 10: 40 New
      10
      Forget there, do not forget, and the current capital is located on the territory of the former king of the Orenburg province. The current rulers made a move with the horse and moved the capital to the disputed territory.
    2. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 22 June 2020 10: 49 New
      +5
      About Finland and Poland, too, then we must not forget, too, let our lands under the king be given away or will we conquer back?
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 June 2020 11: 03 New
        -2
        Quote: Pessimist22
        About Finland and Poland, too, then we must not forget, too, let our lands under the king be given away or will we conquer back?

        And the turn will reach them.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 June 2020 11: 06 New
        14
        Quote: Pessimist22
        About Finland and Poland, too, then we must not forget, too, let our lands under the king be given away or will we conquer back?

        Finland managed to leave before the formation of the USSR. smile
        Although, in general, everything is interesting with the Finns - because, unlike Poland, the state of Finland was created by the Empire "from scratch", from the provinces transferred by the Swedes in bulk and the Vyborg province.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 22 June 2020 15: 20 New
          0
          It seems that the Grand Duchy of Finland existed until 1809.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 22 June 2020 16: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Sergej1972
            It seems that the Grand Duchy of Finland existed until 1809.

            In Sweden, there were titles - the Duke of Finland and the Grand Duke of Finland. But there was no separate administrative-territorial formation, similar to the VKF Empire, under this title - the ordinary provinces of Sweden were considered the duchy.
            Moreover, according to Article IV of the Friedrichsham Peace Treaty, Sweden refused in favor of the EIV from just seven separate provinces. There is no VKF in the text.
      3. Willywonka
        Willywonka 23 June 2020 13: 06 New
        0
        The fucking conqueror .... will you bring them back? To fight is not to write comments for 15 rubles. Already in history it was "we will shower them with hats" ... Forgot or not taught? Probably the second, otherwise I would not be engaged in such work.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 22 June 2020 10: 27 New
    27
    And 99% of these republics (nations) did not exist before the formation of the USSR.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 22 June 2020 10: 31 New
      -5
      main point in the comments .............................................. .................................................. ..............................................
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 22 June 2020 10: 42 New
        +4
        For clarity, we list the republics and tick off who, as a subject, became part of the USSR or the Empire.
        1. Azerbaijan SSR
        2 ArmSSR
        3.GrSSR
        4. Uzbek SSR
        5. TajSSR
        6.TurkmSSR
        7. KazSSR
        8. Kyrgyz SSR
        9. UkrSSR
        10. Moldavian SSR
        11. Lithuania
        12. Latvia
        13. EstSSR
        14 of the RSFSR
        15. BelSSR.
  • Military77
    Military77 22 June 2020 10: 27 New
    -5
    Interestingly, will Donetsk and Lugansk regions be attached to the Russian Federation until July 1, or after?
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    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 22 June 2020 11: 23 New
      +4
      Quote: Military77
      Donetsk and Lugansk regions before July 1 will join the Russian Federation or after?

      De facto - this is a transition period. And legal issues will settle down over time.
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  • vargo
    vargo 22 June 2020 10: 30 New
    +4
    No matter how they use his words as a threat to another republic on the border
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 22 June 2020 10: 56 New
      +3
      If they can, they always use it.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 June 2020 11: 00 New
      11
      Quote: vargo
      No matter how they use his words as a threat to another republic on the border

      And sooner or later this question would have been raised anyway. There is such a saying (I do not remember literally) - even if it seems to you that you have deceived the Russians, they will sooner or later return for their own.
      The fact that the republics illegally withdrew from the USSR is there. All the presidents of the republics, without exception, are ELEGAL from the word at all, for the people VOTED FOR THE USSR. Or did you forget that?
      Therefore, the borders of the republics are illegal. They seceded from the USSR, taking NOT ONE. And now Putin asks them now for REDUCED.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 22 June 2020 12: 53 New
        -7
        Quote: NEXUS
        The fact that the republic illegally withdrew from the USSR is.

        Iron fact. As well as the fact that the RSFSR FIRST withdrew from the USSR.
        Quote: NEXUS
        And now Putin asks them now for REDUCED.

        So let him start with himself and his lackeys.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 June 2020 14: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: revnagan
          As well as the fact that the RSFSR FIRST withdrew from the USSR.

          No need to pull an owl on the globe, dear! The conspiracy in Belovezhskaya Pushcha was with the participation of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. So it's not necessary to manipulate the facts of history under your idiocy.
      2. Poor
        Poor 24 June 2020 09: 36 New
        -1
        We are for the poor, we are for the Russians - we will eat and stuff our pockets laughing
  • rotfuks
    rotfuks 22 June 2020 10: 30 New
    24
    Not only did the republic take with them Rassian husks and even the peninsula, but at the same time “nobly” refused the state debt of the USSR. Maybe everyone has already forgotten, but the state debt of the USSR was paid by Russia as the successor of the USSR. So the money in the IMF was taken by all and Tajikistan. and Georgia and Ukraine. But Russia paid off this debt exclusively.
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 22 June 2020 10: 39 New
      14
      This is good - Russia paid the debt for everyone, now it can already present its bills to everyone.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 June 2020 11: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Pavel57
        This is good - Russia paid the debt for everyone, now it can already present its bills to everyone.

        This is not a duty, in the usual sense, this is what we STORED.
      2. alone
        alone 22 June 2020 11: 15 New
        -1
        Quote: Pavel57
        This is good - Russia paid the debt for everyone, now it can already present its bills to everyone.

        Saying one thing, do not forget the other ... Russia took upon itself the debt obligations of the USSR .. Correctly say ... But at the same time, Russia became the receiver of those debts that other countries that were debtors to the USSR had to pay ... You paid the debts, but what they should have written off to you ... Such an agreement was signed in 1992 when the CIS was created ... There was such an option, it was necessary to equally divide the debts and what the USSR was supposed to receive ... Russia itself assumed all ..
        So the fact that Solntselik forgave different countries what no one was to receive was to blame. And about this, show him yourself
    2. tatra
      tatra 22 June 2020 10: 43 New
      0
      90 percent of the "USSR debts" was collected by the "Liberator" of the enemies of the communists, including the separatists, Gorbachev, but the Russian enemies of the communists appropriated all 100% of the debt that other countries owed the Soviet Union, and at the request of the Paris Club they forgave all these debts of 150 billions of dollars to those countries.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 22 June 2020 12: 08 New
        -1
        And the Tatra is not one of the associates of Lexus, I wonder? repeat
    3. Alexga
      Alexga 22 June 2020 11: 03 New
      -2
      Maybe everyone has already forgotten, but the state debt of the USSR was paid by Russia as the successor of the USSR.

      Only you forget that when you declared yourself the legal successor of the USSR, Russia received all the foreign assets of the USSR, including all Embassies with their territories and so on. But, most importantly, a place in the UN and, most importantly, a place of the Permanent Member of the UN Security Council.
    4. pytar
      pytar 22 June 2020 11: 03 New
      +2
      Why did Russia pay off debts for the USSR?
      In 1991, a memorandum was signed between the republics of the USSR, according to which all 12 countries, except the Baltic States, agreed to repay the debts of the Soviet Union in proportion. But already in 1993, the Russian Federation expressed a desire to take on the entire amount of the republics' debt, in exchange for abandoning claims for the assets of the USSR. The republics agreed to this "zero option". After that, Russia became the sole and full successor of the Soviet Union. And all the foreign assets of the USSR were at stake: gold and foreign exchange reserves, movable and immovable property outside the territory of the countries of the former Socialist camp, as well as investments and debts of other countries. At that time, the sum of all assets of the former USSR was estimated, according to various sources, from $ 120-150 billion! It's safe to say that the idea was really interesting. Take on debts under $ 97 billion and in the end get from $ 120-150 billion! And then, this decision seemed to be an extremely clever move. But alas, almost $ 100 billion of this amount are the obligations of poor countries to the USSR, which in the end were almost completely forgiven ... Debt forgiveness is not a new practice in international financial relations. Usually, this method makes it possible to obtain preferences in trade, thus indirectly recouping the losses of the lender.
  • Alexga
    Alexga 22 June 2020 10: 32 New
    -1
    So, will the Vilnius region be permanently assigned to Lithuania? But what about the 1939 Liberation Campaign? I think that one cannot say that.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 10: 50 New
      -10 qualifying.
      Give Vilensky region to the Poles. Memel - to the Germans.
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 22 June 2020 10: 57 New
        -2
        According to your logic, Kaliningrad to the Germans, half of Sakhalin and the Kuril ridge to the Japanese, separate Tuva ???
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 02 New
          +6
          By my logic, all lands that were previously part of the USSR, and even earlier in the Republic of Ingushetia, should be part of our state. If this is not so, then Vilensky Krai - to the Poles, and the Germans and Japanese from our side a huge red phallus.
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 June 2020 11: 13 New
          +9
          Quote: AlexGa
          According to your logic, Kaliningrad to the Germans, half of Sakhalin and the Kuril ridge to the Japanese, separate Tuva ???

          How is it that Ivan Vasilyevich, why are you, the royal face, squandering state lands ... so you can’t get any volosts. fellow
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 June 2020 11: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Give Vilensky region to the Poles. Memel - to the Germans.

        Well, then California, Alaska, half of Prussia, part of Sweden, Finland in full force and so on, let them return ... yeah.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 09 New
          +5
          We sold Alaska, the deal, alas, is legitimate. But bought a part of the Baltic states. And now the purchase is barking at the buyer.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 22 June 2020 11: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            We sold Alaska, the deal, alas, is legitimate.

            For 99 years. And when the deadline has passed, do not remind?
            1. revnagan
              revnagan 22 June 2020 12: 45 New
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              For 99 years. And when the deadline has passed, do not remind?

              Sold means sold. Forever. Well, at least read the literature to be "in the subject" and not make people laugh. True, RI has not received money from the sale of Alaska ... But I will not tell you further, so as not to interrupt the interest. ..And what if it's true - take it and read it repeat ....
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 22 June 2020 14: 48 New
                0
                Quote: revnagan
                Sold means sold. Forever. Well, at least read the literature to be "in the subject" and not make people laugh.

                Smart look ... then smartass answer me, how did the legitimate sale of Alaska go WITHOUT ratifying BOTH chambers of the Senate? And where is Zin’s money? All the deadlines have passed a long time ago, according to the ILLEGAL seizure of Alaska. Well, I want to listen to you smart guy ... maybe something intelligible gurgle.
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 22 June 2020 15: 26 New
                  +1
                  The Senate is one of the Chambers of Congress. The second chamber, the House of Representatives, is not involved in the ratification of international treaties. As they say, learn materiel.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 22 June 2020 15: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: Sergej1972
                    The Senate is one of the Chambers of Congress. The second chamber, the House of Representatives, is not involved in the ratification of international treaties. As they say, learn materiel.

                    Learn US law, dear. For the contract to be legal, at that time, the BOTH Chambers had to consider the contract and ratify it. No need to invent here.
                    In addition, even after that, Russia DOES NOT GET MONEY.
                    1. Sergej1972
                      Sergej1972 22 June 2020 16: 15 New
                      +1
                      Read the US Constitution. They have international treaties ratified exclusively by the upper house, the Senate. Only she approves ministers, ambassadors, etc., proposed by the US President. The House of Representatives is not involved in the ratification of international treaties or in the approval of officials. But then it has priority over the Senate in financial matters, it has a decisive vote in approving the US federal budget. But the laws should be adopted by both houses.
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 22 June 2020 17: 43 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Sergej1972
                        Read the US Constitution.

                        So read the US Constitution at the time of 1867 ...
                      2. Vrungeli
                        Vrungeli 22 June 2020 17: 50 New
                        -1
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: Sergej1972
                        Read the US Constitution.

                        So read the US Constitution at the time of 1867 ...

                        Why talk to them .. Andrew! They now begin to howl in chorus ..
                        In general, I remember the Russian Empire was the first to recognize the United States as a state! They don’t remember that ..
                        But no one recognized Soviet Russia for a long time and blocked all trade and political ties ... But we still broke through
              2. revnagan
                revnagan 22 June 2020 16: 58 New
                -4
                Quote: NEXUS
                Smart look ...

                That yes, there is such a thing. You can’t say anything about you. And you are still proud of it ...
                Quote: NEXUS
                , and how did the legitimate sale of Alaska WITHOUT ratification of BOTH chambers of the Senate

                Autocracy: The meaning of this word is clear to you, or you also need to clarify common truths.
                Quote: NEXUS
                All the deadlines have passed long ago, according to the ILLEGAL seizure of Alaska.

                Ah-ah-ah ... well, if everything is so simple .... so "return the darling back."
                Quote: NEXUS
                . Maybe something intelligible gurgle.

                You don't even have to expect this from you. Unless you will "gurgle" with eaten peas only in the bathtub .... And rightly so, you don't need to read anything like you, grow above yourself. Life is beautiful and amazing without any scientific nonsense. And if the facts you don't like - ... well ... what did Condoleezza Rice say? "So much the worse for facts." laughing .
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 23 June 2020 00: 04 New
            0
            For 99 years. And when the deadline has passed, do not remind?

            V.I. Lenin February 3, 1918 issued a decree on the cancellation of all internal and external public debt. The latter included almost 18,5 billion rubles in gold, of which more than half accounted for during the First World War.
            After that, no one started talking about the return of Alaska. Something like this. hi
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 22 June 2020 11: 30 New
          +6
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          And now the purchase is barking at the buyer.

          You will laugh, but it is also possible. yes It’s just that at one time the purchase wasn’t normally packaged, so it started to mess. laughing And you also need to study the operating instructions in order to avoid various incidents. A couple of years ago there was a case - an uncle filed a lawsuit against the manufacturer of the beds for the physical damage caused to him by the product (broken jaw and broken teeth). fellow And all because I didn’t collect it myself, and did not listen to the recommendations of the installers. And there, oh, very tight pneumatic elevators and a metal frame, which, in fact, sent the poor fellow to a deep knockout. wassat
        3. revnagan
          revnagan 22 June 2020 12: 49 New
          -14 qualifying.
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          But they bought a part of the Baltic states.

          Well, if you bought a part of the Baltics, do you probably have notarized papers in your hands? Dealer? You are the direct heir of Pyotr Alekseevich Romanov, who bought this part of the Baltics from Queen Eleanor with HIS PERSONAL FUNDS. Or your ancestors were at that time in a slave rank, and they were counted in the number of serf "souls"? In the first case, you should seek restitution in the European Court of Human Rights. In the second ... prompt, or did you understand everything yourself?
    2. Kamarada
      Kamarada 22 June 2020 11: 09 New
      0
      That hell and not Memel. Himself pick up. And in general there’s nothing to squander with their lands. No where ...
  • HAM
    HAM 22 June 2020 10: 32 New
    +6
    Well, finally, something intelligible was pronounced ... without looking back at the "brotherhood" ...
    It will definitely fail to return ALL the lands, but some need to be put in place ...
    The lips in Kuban were rolled out ... they would have kept theirs .. Hungarians and Poles are already sharing the skin of Ukraine ..
    And Kazakhstan has grown for a reason ..
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 22 June 2020 10: 53 New
      +2
      Poland and Finland can be taken back, our lands are the same.
  • Anders
    Anders 22 June 2020 10: 34 New
    -36 qualifying.
    He no longer has enough land for his dachas?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 22 June 2020 10: 37 New
    +3
    Kazakhs must strain.
    1. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 22 June 2020 11: 04 New
      +5
      I think there is an unequivocal message towards Ukraine
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 22 June 2020 10: 38 New
    -13 qualifying.
    I’ll tell you everything, I’ll pour more balm on the souls that suffered in quarantine. Just zero out. You are welcome.
  • ciujoilu
    ciujoilu 22 June 2020 10: 38 New
    -11 qualifying.
    And only one Moldova blogadory of the USSR lost land repeat
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 10: 53 New
      +6
      Quote: ciujoilu
      And only one Moldova blogadory of the USSR lost land

      and she was WITHOUT the USSR ?!
      1. ciujoilu
        ciujoilu 22 June 2020 11: 15 New
        -10 qualifying.
        It was. In 1856, the blogger of Tsarist Russia became Romania, and then again the blogger of Lenin became Romania again, and then thanks to Stalin the USSR became but they took and chopped it into pieces. And yes, as the state of Moldova was formed before Romania, but thanks to such hegemons like Tsarist Russia, France, Turkey and the Austro-Hungarian Empire that they needed a buffer zone between Turkey and Europe they asked us without even asking and made a new country, Romania. And right now we are suffering because of your games in cutting the world.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 07 New
      12
      Moldova, before the USSR did not exist at all. There was a Bessarabian province.
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 07 New
      +4
      Moldova, before the USSR did not exist at all. There was a Bessarabian province.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 June 2020 14: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Moldova, before the USSR did not exist at all. There was a Bessarabian province.

        It became a province when it became part of the Russian Empire, and before that, it was a MOLDOVAN PRINCIPLE, dear. It’s completely with the state system. Do not sculpt a hunchback ...
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 22 June 2020 15: 29 New
          +2
          Most of the Principality of Moldova became part of Moldo-Vlachia, later renamed Romania.
  • tatra
    tatra 22 June 2020 10: 38 New
    -3
    The enemies of the Communists at first divided the USSR among themselves, cowardly blaming the Communists for this, starting with Lenin, then they began to take territories from each other and start wars among themselves over territories.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 10: 52 New
      12
      It was precisely Lenin who created these very allied republics with the right of exit, cutting the borders for them absolutely from the ceiling. After 70 years, it came around.
      1. tatra
        tatra 22 June 2020 10: 59 New
        -2
        And YOU, enemies of Lenin, divided the USSR among you, and you didn't care about all the laws and the Constitution, about the will of the people in the referendum FOR the preservation of the USSR. And you perfectly know how to grovel - how NOT to do, but how to do it - you have big problems. All countries are divided within themselves territorially, and none of you is able to prove how the USSR should have been divided so that you could not divide it into your anti-Soviet-Russophobic "independence-self".
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 17 New
          +6
          They divided the Union by pulling along national corners, just the Communists, in the person of the ruling elites of national entities. Kravchuk, Shushkevich, Shevardnadze, Yeltsin with the connivance of the Secretary General of the CPSU. And you will still say that the commies are white and fluffy.
          1. tatra
            tatra 22 June 2020 11: 21 New
            -4
            Why doesn’t it reach the enemies of the Communists that EVERY time you cowardly blame the Communists for the responsibility for YOURSELF, including the responsibility for seizing the USSR, dividing it among you, imposing the republics of the USSR and their peoples on you your anti-Soviet power, your System, economy, ideology - anti-Soviet, you yourself admit that what you did is your crimes, what you did for criminal purposes, did it bad for your country and people?
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 22 June 2020 12: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: tatra
              Why doesn’t it reach the enemies of the Communists that EVERY time you cowardly blame the Communists for the responsibility for YOURSELF, including the responsibility for seizing the USSR, dividing it among you, imposing the republics of the USSR and their peoples on you your anti-Soviet power, your System, economy, ideology - anti-Soviet, you yourself admit that what you did is your crimes, what you did for criminal purposes, did it bad for your country and people?

              What a wonderful speech! (Not to be called otherwise). But why did you, Tatra, choose VO as a platform for such important statements? Why not at the summit of the big seven ?! There you would all this truth, your uterus would be laid out on the table! Let the bourgeois tremble! You are not allowed there? belay
      2. Alexander Seklitsky
        Alexander Seklitsky 22 June 2020 11: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        It was precisely Lenin who created these very allied republics with the right to exit, cutting the borders for them absolutely from the ceiling

        Lenin had the task of stopping nationalist movements on the outskirts of the former empire. The choice was not great. Either "butter up" or crush them. But the second option was not strong enough, especially when a civil war was going on inside the country.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 23 New
          +7
          After Lenin, it was as much as 70 years to defuse this mine. Having created the administrative division of the country not according to the national, but according to the territorial and economic principle. And flirting with nationalities, carrying out various kinds of Ukrainization, was not worth it: a new community was proclaimed - the Soviet people. With one hand they drowned for internationalism, with the other they raised nationalism.
          1. Alexander Seklitsky
            Alexander Seklitsky 22 June 2020 11: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            After Lenin, it was as much as 70 years to defuse this mine

            At the head of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union there were a lot of immigrants from the independent period during the Khrushchev period, and from the Stalin period from Georgia. Therefore, no one would implement such a policy. Yes, and in fact the model of state structure worked, no one brain soared
          2. tatra
            tatra 22 June 2020 11: 38 New
            -4
            And how is this "administrative division of the country not according to nationality, but according to the territorial-economic principle.? So you, the enemies of the communists, who seized Russia, divided Russia into regions, and what will prevent you from dividing Russia into separate States along the borders of these regions?"
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 42 New
              +5
              How territorial - economic? In the province, as it was in RI. Or to the states, as it is now in the USA. But without the right to secede from the country. In the 50-70s, this could be done painlessly.
              1. tatra
                tatra 22 June 2020 11: 55 New
                -3
                And what is the result of the division of the Russian Empire in the province? Your benefactor Gorbachev is an analogue of the Provisional Government, during which territorial disintegration began. “For several months, Poles, Finns, Balts, Ukrainians, Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis formed national parliaments and governments seeking independence”
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 22 June 2020 12: 23 New
                  +1
                  Quote: tatra
                  Your benefactor Gorbachev is an analogue of the Provisional Government, during which territorial disintegration began.

                  A masterpiece comparison of the head of the CPSU and the Provisional Government. laughing
                  1. tatra
                    tatra 22 June 2020 12: 29 New
                    -2
                    This is not the head of the CPSU, but a benefactor of the enemies of the CPSU, who surrendered the USSR to the enemies of the CPSU, the USSR and the Soviet people. I often write "The Liberator" of the enemies of the communists, Gorbachev. It's me that when the enemies of the communists in the early 90s still had something left of Soviet moral education, they chanted "Gorbachev gave us freedom", "Yeltsin gave us freedom", and then their cosmopolitan, selfish, cowardly mentality with a complete lack of a sense of gratitude, prevailed, they began to throw up the supporters of the communists to Gorbachev and Yeltsin "and they are not ours, they are yours."
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 22 June 2020 12: 36 New
                      +4
                      Quote: tatra
                      This is not the head of the CPSU, but the benefactor of the enemies of the CPSU

                      How cowardly some who call themselves Communists, deny themselves. laughing
                2. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 13: 03 New
                  +4
                  The fastest way is Gorbachev - an analogue of our Tsar rags, Nikolai Slyunyavy. Which in his environment raised traitors. And the Provisional Government is Borya Koldyr, well, very similar.
            2. Alexander Seklitsky
              Alexander Seklitsky 22 June 2020 18: 27 New
              0
              Quote: tatra
              Here you are, the enemies of the Communists who captured Russia, divided Russia into regions, and that will prevent you from dismembering Russia into separate States

              umm in a fool spent the Internet? lol I look straight at the master with pathetic stamps scattered. fool And yes ... by the way, the renegade communists themselves, led by your Gorbachev, ruined the union. Yes, and the current Communist Party has completely credited itself. Especially after the mustachioed farmer
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 22 June 2020 15: 31 New
          +1
          Who forced to allocate territories from the RSFSR after the creation of the USSR?
    2. ciujoilu
      ciujoilu 22 June 2020 10: 58 New
      -3
      I do not mean Transnistria. There are other lands that historically they are Moldavian territories and the bloggers of the USSR were given to another country.
      1. tatra
        tatra 22 June 2020 11: 04 New
        +1
        And what was this State of Moldova before the USSR?
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 June 2020 11: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: tatra
      The enemies of the Communists first divided the USSR among themselves

      Yeah ... and at the head of the list enemies of the communists who divided the USSR among themselvesare terrible anti-communists. smile
      See for yourself:
      - Candidate member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee for Construction, member of the CPSU Central Committee, First Secretary of the CPSU MGK.
      - Member of the Central Committee of the CPSU, member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, head of the ideological department, secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party.
      - Member of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, member of the Central Audit Commission of the CPSU, member of the CPSU Central Committee, first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan.
      - Member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU, member of the Central Committee of the CPSU, first secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Georgian SSR.
      1. tatra
        tatra 22 June 2020 11: 41 New
        -2
        Yes, these are all those who, together with all the other enemies of the communists since the anti-Soviet perestroika, have been malignant against the communists, who declared those repressed by the communists "innocent victims." Or not?
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 12: 07 New
          +7
          I ask out of curiosity: which communists were right? Lenin, whom Stalin repressed or Stalin, who repressed Lenin. Or the Khrushchev’s, who rehabilitated the Leninist and outraged the Stalinist? Maybe the Brezhnevs, who stopped the development of the country and fed the Gorbachevs, who, in turn, destroyed the Power?
          1. tatra
            tatra 22 June 2020 12: 16 New
            -7
            Ha, well, why are the enemies of the Communists unable to reach the level of discussion? Why is it always when they write about YOU, you rush to be angry AGAINST the communists and their supporters, and none of you is able to protect each other?
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 12: 32 New
              +5
              So, nevertheless, what kind of communists who have enemies do you mean? I'm already confused. Were faithful Leninists-enemies of the people, according to Stalin? There were Stalinists, whom Khrushchev declared enemies. It’s all complicated for an immature mind.
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 22 June 2020 12: 44 New
            -1
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            I ask out of curiosity: which communists were right?

            Something immediately remembered Dolsky ... smile
            When the nobles and merchants were shot
            and all those who worked with brains
            so many other fellows came
            wanting not to be fools.

            When they shot and those fellows,
            that they became fathers to the people
            so many other scoundrels came
            who wanted to serve as scoundrels.

            When the scoundrels were also shot,
            calling their people enemies
            so many other daredevils came
            who didn’t want to be dunduks.

            When they shot those daredevils,
            who became thieves,
            the choirs of the sages sang everywhere:
            only Stalin is to blame!
  • Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 22 June 2020 10: 39 New
    18
    Here, in some comments, quite understandable skepticism is felt. But, nevertheless, the head of state finally indicated that not only our neighbors have complaints, but also our neighbors. The statement, in my unenlightened view, is really important. In any business, the first step is important.
    1. tatra
      tatra 22 June 2020 11: 06 New
      -7
      This is another step towards the fact that the enemies of Russia will be delighted, and accuse Russia of aggressive plans. Such an excellent occasion gave them Putin.
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 22 June 2020 12: 14 New
        -1
        -Yes! And we them - in nationalism, and they us - in great-power chauvinism, and we them ... and they are ours ...
        And so on to infinity ... And we, of course, will suffer sincerely, repent and call everyone back ...
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 22 June 2020 10: 43 New
    +7
    If only this "opinion" was a platform for meetings in the EAC, the CSTO and other "formats". Moreover, a tribunal for terror against the Russian-speaking population in the 90s ...
    In fact - loans, free weapons, "bread and salt" with guest workers and other assistance ... "Partners" will not even "be offended" ... Everyone understands the value of this "opinion".
  • CBR600
    CBR600 22 June 2020 10: 43 New
    0
    To begin with, it would restore the sovereignty of the country itself. After- the sovereignty of the authorities, preferably popular and chosen by them (people). Call to account for the stolen. Yes, a lot of things are needed for sovereignty. And who owes whom and what, you know ... These are the statements for plebeiscite only
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 10: 44 New
    +6
    that they allowed it and grabbed it, while it all went thank you no longer grabbed
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 10: 45 New
    +4
    The leader of the country believes that, in fairness, the Union republics should have left the USSR with the territories with which they belonged.
    But what about those states which before the USSR did not exist in nature ?!
  • Docx2032
    Docx2032 22 June 2020 10: 46 New
    12
    I agree to give Russia all of Belarus, where I live. Living on a shard of a broken jug is humiliating. Affects all shards.
    1. AnderS
      AnderS 22 June 2020 10: 55 New
      -2
      I agree to give Russia all of Belarus, where I live. Living on a shard of a broken jug is humiliating.

      Maybe Russia is better in Belarus? As a citizen of Russia, I support this idea.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 22 June 2020 10: 58 New
      +3
      DocX2032 Today, 10:46
      +3
      I agree to give Russia all of Belarus, where I live.
      Bravely, however! I wonder how many people want to go back to Russia from Belarus?
  • Courier
    Courier 22 June 2020 10: 48 New
    -15 qualifying.
    Hitler said the same thing about German lands, exactly the same.
    1. kot423
      kot423 22 June 2020 10: 54 New
      +4
      To you personally? Or did you hold a candle while talking?
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 10: 58 New
      14
      and bots ran today
      in the case and with arguments can you object ?!
      the simplest example is the city (Alma-Ata) in which my grandfather, father and I were born, including with the participation of my great-grandfather, and now I am there from among those who have come
      1. Courier
        Courier 22 June 2020 11: 46 New
        -4
        My arguments are reality. There was different things in history, today the Germans will be in Kaliningrad come in large numbers, like the Turks in the Crimea.

        Speaking about the fact that Russia has lost land, it follows automatically that these lands must be returned. Military way, are you ready for this? 17 million square kilometers are not enough already?
        For the sake of the bare steppes lay down the precious Russian people. It is one thing when small, insignificant countries speak in this vein, likening them, Russia directly threatens, fully confirming all Polish, Baltic and whatever fantasies.
        First, we will return our lands, then we will return ours in Eastern Europe, this is Hitler's syllable, in its purest form. You are led to war.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 11: 50 New
          +2
          you do not jump off the topic
          and about the bare steppes, with all my heart I wish you to live somewhere in Osh
  • rocket757
    rocket757 22 June 2020 10: 48 New
    0
    A difficult question, very complex ... but will we wait for an answer to it?
  • Mooh
    Mooh 22 June 2020 10: 49 New
    +4
    Wasn’t it too late? 30 years have passed since the collapse of the Union, and the authorities only heard that something was wrong here. At this rate, in 2040, President Putin will report that the privatization of 1991 is questionable and perhaps not entirely fair?
  • U-58
    U-58 22 June 2020 10: 51 New
    +1
    Everything is fair, but ... populism.
    And it’s a no brainer that the number “give Alyasochka back” will not work.
    There is a set of points in their favor and, incidentally, a new wave of hysteria in the West.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 22 June 2020 11: 01 New
      +3
      U-58 (u 58) Today, 10:51
      0
      Everything is fair, but ... populism.
      And it’s a no brainer that the number “give Alyasochka back” will not work.
      The article is about the republics that were part of the USSR.
      Putin believes that republics when leaving the USSR “Grabbed” Russian lands
      1. U-58
        U-58 22 June 2020 12: 26 New
        -1
        So for the allegory I quoted the words of the song. And the peasants do not know)))
  • Docx2032
    Docx2032 22 June 2020 10: 53 New
    +8
    The problem is not that the Nazis in the republics received land that did not belong to them, but that they turned out to be temporary workers, not real masters, having failed to dispose of the USSR’s heritage. Ukraine had a powerful economy, fertile lands, seas and ports - now it is the most impoverished territory of Europe after Moldova. It is not normal. Personally, I do not like when a poor and unpredictable population borders Belarus in the south.
  • AnderS
    AnderS 22 June 2020 10: 54 New
    -6
    Well. start with a union treaty and the right to self-determination. If not for people like Yeltsin and his successor Putin, then there would be no breakdown of the union and "self-determination". This is the first thing.
    And the second - this is how I look, Putin is a master after a fight with his fists fisted. How to distribute land and water to the Chinese and Americans with the Norwegians so everything is fine here, he does not yap against them. But against the republics of the former USSR, so here he is a fighter for historical territories ...
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 04 New
      +3
      Nationalism in the republics was nurtured by the Communists long before Gorbachev. When tagged, he simply broke out of control.
      1. tatra
        tatra 22 June 2020 11: 26 New
        -3
        Why YOU yourself, the enemies of the communists, are not in your history of the Soviet and post-Soviet periods? Why are you all and always, including your separatists, cowardly "have nothing to do with it"?
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 30 New
          +6
          But the communist history of the country continues: whoever you spit in the Duma and the government - either a communist or a Komsomol leader. For good, it was necessary for those who were under the Union a little-bit party functionary to introduce an unconditional ban on holding leadership positions and being elected to government bodies. For life.
          1. tatra
            tatra 22 June 2020 11: 33 New
            -4
            DO NOT need to get out, answer the question. There is at least something in the Soviet and post-Soviet period, to accountability for the fact that the enemies of the Communists.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 22 June 2020 12: 31 New
              +5
              Quote: tatra
              There is at least something in the Soviet and post-Soviet periods, to accountability for the fact that the enemies of the communists.

              Looks like Klitschko laughing
              Compare:
              Among the sick are two inferior children: a 16-year-old girl and a 17-year-old boy. *** If every sixth person used to die in the intensive care unit, now every second person dies. It is very important. We raise the level, we save lives. *** Regarding the preparation for the snow, I want to note that we received help from the Federal Republic of Germany. Today I met 15 cars that were at customs, 13 of which are MANs, 3 Mercedes. *** Friends! Real winter got to Kiev. So, while the snowfall continues, difficulties will be. *** And today, tomorrow, not everyone can watch. Rather, not only everyone can watch, few can do it. (future) *** I met with many police officers who died, with demonstrators who died; and everyone asks me a question ... *** In the life of every person there is a main rival. And that is him.
              Source: https://stuki-druki.com/Aforizmi-Klichko.php Pieces-tricks ©
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 June 2020 10: 56 New
    +4
    Here all the leaders of the "former" were covered with cold sweat ... The Balts must have cut off their phones in NATO laughing
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 22 June 2020 11: 00 New
    +3
    And if you dig further, then it will reach California and Alaska. The main thing is not to stop.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 22 June 2020 11: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: 7,62x54
      The main thing is not to stop.

      And there, the Golden Horde with claims will catch up ...
  • edmed
    edmed 22 June 2020 11: 01 New
    +3
    "Something died in our forest !?" They scattered 30 years ago, no disputes and claims, and here you are, such statements against the background of "zeroing" ... Somehow it somehow ...what
  • alone
    alone 22 June 2020 11: 05 New
    +4
    Against the background of the upcoming elections, this statement is designed to raise the rating ..

    You won’t go far with such statements ... What methods is going to return the territory of GDP?

    P, S. He needs to rest ... The right hand does not understand what the left does .. And the head does not perceive what the language says
    1. edmed
      edmed 22 June 2020 11: 14 New
      -3
      Quote: lonely
      Against the background of the upcoming elections, this statement is designed to raise the rating ..

      As an option, but somewhat wrong No. or options are over and
      Quote: lonely
      The right hand does not understand what the left does .. And the head does not perceive what the language says
  • certero
    certero 22 June 2020 11: 11 New
    +4
    Such statements should have been made 20 years ago. To protect the rights of Russian speakers in the same Baltic States or Kazakhstan.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 11: 37 New
      +1
      Defend with a ruined army behind? Each vegetable has its own time. The USSR did not return the Baltic states immediately either.
      1. certero
        certero 22 June 2020 21: 01 New
        +1
        Do you seriously think that Russia exists because it had an army? No, she exists only because she has left the Strategic Missile Forces from the Soviet Union.

        Absolutely no one interfered with claiming the rights of non-citizens in the Baltic states.
        1. Alexga
          Alexga 22 June 2020 23: 03 New
          0
          to the rights of non-citizens in the Baltic states.

          And not only there!
  • apro
    apro 22 June 2020 11: 13 New
    0
    I woke up .... when the night passed ....
    Now what is this figure going to do? To arrange a war or something else ???
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 22 June 2020 13: 40 New
      0
      Quote: apro
      to arrange a war or something like that?
      Why, when populism alone is enough, there, as some were ripped apart in the comments, as they say, they are ready to jump out of their pants and write with boiling water with delight (however, these are either those who naively want "what's best", or outright bots). In reality, such events.
      "The decision to abandon the expansion of the boundaries of the Northern Sea Route (NSR) was made at a meeting with the chairman of the State Commission on the Development of the Arctic Yuri Trutnev, on June 20, referring to its sources, RBC reports.

      Possible conflicts with international law were the reason why the meeting decided not to expand the boundaries of the NSR.

      IA Red Spring
      Read the full article here:
      https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/da866cf3"
      So, so as not to irritate the "partners". As for the statement of Vladimir Vladimirovich, this is nothing more than "they will not get off with tomatoes" and "let them just try." In general, this is another chance for the West to declare Russia an "aggressor" again, when there are no real deeds behind words, everything will turn out sideways.

      The closest example from history - we recognize the referendum in the Crimea, we satisfy the desire of the Crimeans to become part of Russia, all with fireworks and concerts, like an extravaganza of happiness. But, we do not recognize the same desire of Donbass, moreover, we recognize the farce with the elections held by the junta, and, accordingly, we allow the Bandera government to legalize itself. Automatically, the referendum on Crimea and its incorporation into Russia becomes illegal. The states, which organized the anti-constitutional coup in Kiev, are throwing everything from a sick head to a healthy one, and Russia becomes an aggressor, international sanctions are introduced. The West got what it dreamed of. So, this is despite the fact that we had legitimate Yanukovych and Azarov, they could have taken the whole of Ukraine, won the whole game, but they seized one "queen", having gotten the classic gambit, ineptly lost by our government. Why be surprised when they are in world capitalism, in which they are not the masters, so, to raise the rating, puff their cheeks, create the appearance of butting with the masters.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 22 June 2020 11: 14 New
    +4
    Now in many republics tensed! In addition to hatred of the Russians, this will not work in the beaten republics. Either it was necessary to specifically identify to whom the claims
  • gvozdan
    gvozdan 22 June 2020 11: 19 New
    +5
    It smacks of a referendum in the Donbass. And about hate, it won’t get any worse. And so they hate to the utmost despite neither territory nor gas discounts nor close economic and human ties
  • Shadow041
    Shadow041 22 June 2020 11: 22 New
    +4
    This is an open secret. Personally, I recognize the republics of the former USSR that separated from Russia only within the borders in which they were part of Russia!
    1. DPN
      DPN 22 June 2020 12: 14 New
      0
      and to whom it’s hot or cold, it depends on the Supreme, as before on Gorbachev and Yeltsin, what they wanted and did. So it’s not like YOU.
    2. Region68
      Region68 22 June 2020 23: 49 New
      0
      They were not part of Russia .. in the USSR yes .. But Russia is not the USSR
  • KAVBER
    KAVBER 22 June 2020 11: 23 New
    0
    The correct statement. Empires live as they expand. And this applies to all empires and overseas goods as well.
  • hohol95
    hohol95 22 June 2020 11: 23 New
    -1
    Swing on rubleBut the blow, what will it be ???
    For a penny or ...
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 22 June 2020 11: 26 New
    -2
    If the republic became part of the USSR, but received a huge amount of Russian lands, traditional Russian historical territories, and then decided to leave this Union, then it would leave with what it came.

    Yes. Gold words. Must be on the pediment of the Edzin Center! angry I doubt that they will be there. request
    But in fact - waving fists after a fight under the influence of a fortress with a hind mind. Late boy rushing around. The train left.
    1. DPN
      DPN 22 June 2020 12: 09 New
      -1
      Right to all 100% with tavlyu +++
  • gridasov
    gridasov 22 June 2020 11: 28 New
    +1
    Everything needs to be called by its proper names. Deriban was carried out not by the republics, but by human groups that are in charge of the mechanism of enslaving the masses. Therefore, they seized not only land, but also herds of sheep, which were reformatted to their ideological tricks. Therefore, when the gains at the cost of millions of lives were so easily divided, then I personally do not understand the level of competence of these so-called leaders. Conquered must also be able to save.
  • Old26
    Old26 22 June 2020 11: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Putin then talks about the lands that the republics seized from Russia when they illegally withdrew from the USSR. Notice, he does not mean to conquer the neighboring republics completely, but to return what ours has always been. So where does the aggression, dear.
    If your guest, grabbing yours, leaving, will you put up with this?

    But the lands that the former Soviet republics "seized", leaving the USSR, were transferred to them by the same leadership of the USSR (Russia). North Kazakhstan lands were transferred to Kazakhstan. Donbass - Ukraine. At the same time, Ukraine, leaving the USSR, did not "capture" Donbass with it. He was part of Ukraine. And although BB has told the historical truth, having said "A", one must say "B". What does he offer. To seize these lands now for us ???

    Quote: rotfuks
    Not only did the republic take with them Rassian husks and even the peninsula, but at the same time “nobly” refused the state debt of the USSR. Maybe everyone has already forgotten, but the state debt of the USSR was paid by Russia as the successor of the USSR. So the money in the IMF was taken by all and Tajikistan. and Georgia and Ukraine. But Russia paid off this debt exclusively.

    Right Did Russia pay? But do not remind why ???? Because, otherwise, if Russia did not declare itself the successor of the USSR and did not assume all obligations, it would be necessary to divide not only the USSR debts, but also the property of the Soviet Socialist Republic abroad into 15 republics. What the authorities of the new Russia did not want then.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 June 2020 01: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: Old26
      But the lands that the former Soviet republics "seized", leaving the USSR, were transferred to them by the same leadership of the USSR (Russia).

      I do not dare to ask, what vegetable did Yeltsin become a legitimate president if the people voted for the USSR, and he put this vegetable, like the Ukrainian upstart and Belarusian, on this very will of the people of the whole country?
      And by the way, EBN then sat on the throne as a result of the coup. So on what basis this geek could at least convey something to someone, do not tell?
  • saygon66
    saygon66 22 June 2020 11: 32 New
    0
    - You can’t get the word out ... What territorial claims are there when we cannot let migrant workers ?!
    - And they sometimes threaten with "social explosions", then they demand pensions from Russia ...
    - Trolling at the highest political level ....
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 22 June 2020 11: 33 New
    +1
    and some future states from the USSR never before the Bolsheviks even existed as national autonomies ... these (and most of them) should have been self-determined within the borders only after a complete revision of the history of the creation of these quasi-formations
  • faterdom
    faterdom 22 June 2020 11: 34 New
    +6
    For a long time it was necessary to stop being silent and lie about this. White is called white, black is black. The Hungarians - Hitler's zealous allies, together with the Romanians, Bandera shot Ukrainians, Ursus and Jews in Babi Yar and burned the Belarusians in Khatyn. Latvians were not less than very diligent and proactive personnel of concentration camps.
    And we have been silent for 75 years, uncomfortable, like, at first - because our partner friends and so on, then in general we ourselves are to blame for everything and must repent ...
    For a long time we have been living in lies and in silence - these are the kind of mushrooms that went round and round, and our boys from Urengoy saw nothing but a crooked mirror.
  • Tina freeman
    Tina freeman 22 June 2020 11: 35 New
    0
    I apologize for my not quite correct Russian, but some commentators will not crack anywhere from the annexation of the so-called "primordially Russian lands in Kazakhstan"? Provocateurs to beat
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 22 June 2020 11: 47 New
      -4
      - What are you, how can you ?!
      - This is Kazakhstan, which has annexed all the territories from Kushka to the Ratmanov Islands .... And Kaliningrad and Chukotka in addition ...
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 22 June 2020 11: 57 New
      +3
      no where, there really is a second option, the Russian second state and all that
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 22 June 2020 12: 08 New
        -2
        - Aha! And the inscriptions on the fences on the "second state" - "... do not leave - you are our slaves!"
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 22 June 2020 15: 40 New
      +1
      After the accession of Donbass, this issue will be put on the waiting list. Everything will depend on how reasonable the national policy will be pursued by the leadership of Kazakhstan.
  • Alexga
    Alexga 22 June 2020 11: 48 New
    -4
    Yes, what can’t you say to raise anti-Russian sentiment among your neighbors! I believe that this speech is for their citizens before the vote. But in what capacity do representatives of Central Asian countries go to the Parade. With the feeling that they live in a foreign land? What, there are no advisers who prepared the performance. And we say that Lukashenko is nonsense in his speeches, it is cooler here. Only the GDP has forgotten that life will continue after July 1, but this is how it turns out. I respected GDP for his policies in foreign countries, but I can’t accept what he does at his borders.
  • Ilya_Nsk
    Ilya_Nsk 22 June 2020 11: 58 New
    -1
    They took with them not land, but conscience
  • DPN
    DPN 22 June 2020 12: 02 New
    0
    Yes, they grabbed it, but this is thanks primarily to Yeltsin, he also brought down the country with Gorbachev and what does the Union Treaty have to do with it? In Belovezhskaya Pushcha Lenin and Stalin divided the country? There were Yeltsin, Kravchuk, and the third Belarusian forgot his last name, the first two were awarded, and the third with a bag of shops with a simple pension walks and takes offense on TV showed. So Yeltsin gave it and grabbed it. For what hang noodles on the ears.
    1. Region68
      Region68 22 June 2020 23: 55 New
      -1
      In the first essay, they grabbed you expressing yourself through common sense .. Otherwise, there would have been a war of everyone with everyone ..
      Well, the fact that Putin, for the sake of his rating and idea, the fix as amended carries such nonsense, it still comes around