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In New York, it was decided to dismantle the monument to President Roosevelt

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In New York, it was decided to dismantle the monument to President Roosevelt

From the United States of America reports come about the decision of the country's authorities to dismantle the monument to the 26th President of the United States, Nobel Prize winner Theodore Roosevelt in New York. This monument was once erected in front of the entrance to the Natural Museum stories USA.


It is surprising that the initiators of the dismantling of the monument to the president were representatives of the leadership of the museum. The initiative arose against the backdrop of protests across the United States against manifestations of racism, as well as the wave of spontaneous demolition of monuments that has covered the United States in recent weeks. It all started with the fact that black protesters demolished or doused the monuments to the generals of the South during the civil war in the country. Now it came to the decisions of the official authorities for dismantling. It goes to, as you can see, the monuments in honor of the US presidents.

The initiative of the museum’s leadership was supported by the authorities of New York, saying that if the population “has complaints about certain monuments, then the authorities are ready to listen.”

The situation is extremely strange. The museum of history takes the initiative to dismantle the monument, which a priori should take care of preserving the historical heritage. This means that this legacy is beginning to weigh heavily on millions of Americans, and certain political circles want to take advantage of the situation in their interests.

If you follow the logic of the protesters, then the US authorities will have to start a campaign to rename a number of cities, as well as to change the appearance of dollar bills of a certain value. Indeed, not all presidents depicted on them (banknotes) advocated racial equality.
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  1. tuts
    tuts 22 June 2020 06: 36
    47
    You can’t say better
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 22 June 2020 06: 51
      +4
      A controversial statement ... after all, there is respect for descendants shown in perpetuating t.s. . This is not a facet of one whole, it is different.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 07: 07
        -32 qualifying.
        Quote: rocket757
        after all, there is respect for descendants shown in perpetuating t.s. . This is not a facet of one whole, it is different.

        Liberalism. Svanidze, Gozman, Posner are "descendants" of Stalin, Lenin, and they are very "respected" and they are not alone. And what are the conclusions about Stalin, Lenin ... request
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 June 2020 07: 16
          39
          And the people are interested in the opinion of all svanidzegozmanpozners ??? Yes, if their faces were not "replicated" on TV, no one would know about them ... but for Stalin, Lenin, he knows anyone ... no one conducts real, truthful polls because they are afraid that the ratings of the current compared with those GREAT figures will have to be viewed under a microscope !!! This is people's respect and recognition .... and none of the present ones flinches when pronouncing those names, no matter how hard all the talkers-liars try!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 June 2020 10: 18
            +6
            If guided by the logic of protesters, then US authorities will have to start a campaign to rename a number of cities, as well as by changing the appearance of dollar bills of a certain denomination. Indeed, not all presidents depicted on them (banknotes) advocated racial equality.

            But this is already interesting from a FINANCIAL point of view for the WHOLE WORLD on a global scale! Namely.

            Didn't certain government circles in the United States - under the guise of racial riots in the United States - plan to exchange American dollar bills in the whole world - and naturally at a loss for dollar bill holders in other countries who keep their savings in American $$$ paper bills? That is, in fact, to write off US debts to foreigners in other countries on the principle: "To whom I owe, I forgive everyone!"
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 22 June 2020 10: 56
              +4
              Quote: Tatiana
              to write off US debts to foreigners in other countries on the principle: "To whom I owe, I forgive everyone!"

              The assumption has the right to be ... in that muddy water, you can catch a lot of any fish!
            2. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 22 June 2020 15: 35
              +1
              this is unlikely, any green bucks go around the world. lizh would be without the "nut". a stamp of such a red color in the form of a pentagon, I once had this with a Franklin 100 bucks. Duc I sold it to the numezmates at three prices, it's a pity, now this bill would not be worth
            3. Aleksandre
              Aleksandre 22 June 2020 18: 35
              0
              Quote: Tatiana
              Didn't certain government circles in the United States - under the guise of racial riots in the United States - plan to exchange American dollar bills in the whole world - and naturally at a loss for dollar bill holders in other countries who keep their savings in American $$$ paper bills? That is, in fact, to write off US debts to foreigners in other countries on the principle: "To whom I owe, I forgive everyone!"

              There is not so much cash dollars in circulation, compared with non-cash, something about 1,5 trillion (if I am not mistaken, but the general order of numbers is this). Moreover, the majority, about 2/3, are hundreds.
        2. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 10: 16
          +7
          What are the conclusions of Svanidze and Gozmanov? They are afraid of Lenin and Stalin! So they write with boiling water! Would be normal people, respected! It is neither Svanidze and Gozman who raised Russia! But such as Svanidze and Gozman are very keen to lower Russia below the baseboard! It is necessary to drive these liberals from Russia into three necks! Let your (or others) values ​​be preached at your ideal West! For 30 years, these Svanidze and Gozmans could not create anything better than Lenin and Stalin! Then the country developed its science and production, today the country develops other people's science and production! Survived! Already buy technology! And to create technology weakly? It turns out weakly buy! What an abomination!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 June 2020 10: 58
            +2
            Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
            They are afraid of Lenin and Stalin

            These are Figures, Milestones in the history of mankind ... and you can't remember the shrill audience, they themselves will perish from "melancholy".
          2. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
            Andrey Krasnoyarsky 23 June 2020 12: 30
            +2
            I note that Stalin also bought technology. Many factories of the first five-year plans were built according to projects purchased abroad. In the USSR in the early 30s, about 20 thousand foreign engineers worked. With their help, industry giants such as the Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works, the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, the Gorky Automobile Plant, and Uralmash were built. This is not all, but I remember without a hint. And Stalin did the right thing, because his staff was still not enough, and it took a long time to wait for them to appear in sufficient numbers. Technology procurement is normal. Technology gives a return. An abnormal phenomenon is when instead of technology, products are purchased that could very well be produced by themselves. It’s just eating up national income.
            1. SOVIET UNION 2
              SOVIET UNION 2 23 June 2020 13: 58
              +1
              I generally agree with the comment. Stalin not only bought technology. He still prepared. Frames and developed science! A dumb purchase of technology without personnel and science is a dead end! And not all technologies are sold. For example, the technology of manufacturing a nuclear bomb, I doubt that someone will sell it. Stepping technology and copying it also requires knowledge.
        3. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 22 June 2020 11: 42
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy

          Liberalism. Svanidze, Gozman, Pozner "descendants" of Stalin, Lenin and very much "respect" them

          They do not respect them, they are afraid to the point of colic in the stomach of their reincarnation. Because in this case, get what you have long earned.
        4. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 34
          +3
          Svanidze, Gozman, Posner "descendants" of Stalin, Lenin

          -? !!!
          This Gozman is a descendant
          - Go-oversleep ...
          8-))
      2. knn54
        knn54 22 June 2020 07: 27
        14
        In a giant bas-relief on Mount Rushmore, carved to mark the 150th anniversary of the United States, the sculpture of Theodore Roosevelt is next to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln.
        In the US, he is just as popular (for example, "Night at the Museum") than his six-cousin Franklin. The ONLY US President was awarded the highest US military award - the Medal of Honor.
        Roosevelt transformed the federal government into a public interest advocate and arbiter in a conflict of economic groups. He fought against abuses by big business, nicknamed the “destroyer of trusts.” Could this be the reason?
        It's a shame that this decision was supported by his great-grandson.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 June 2020 07: 53
          +7
          Quote: knn54
          It's a shame that this decision was supported by his great-grandson.

          And what AUTHORITIES do these new revolutionaries have?
          1. SOVIET UNION 2
            SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 10: 25
            +4
            Which revolutionaries? Those who participate in the protests of the revolutionaries? It seems that these are literate consumers! A revolution it seems a change of order. Protesters want the abolition of capitalism? On the Maidan, it seems, too, there were no protests against capitalism. Yanukovych get !? Is this a revolution? This is a palace coup! Poroshenko often seen on the Maidan? Who rules protests in the USA? Can they be seen?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 22 June 2020 11: 03
              +2
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              Which revolutionaries?

              I did not just write this definition of "revolutionaries" in an ironic form, do not find fault. All this action is grotesque, the theater of the absurd, the circus has arrived ...
        2. Mitroha
          Mitroha 22 June 2020 08: 15
          +7
          According to their logic, in connection with the events, they should begin to erect monuments to Obama. There are not many options for disease
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 22 June 2020 09: 50
            +1
            Quote: Mitroha
            should begin to erect monuments to Obama.

            Then first you have to fill it up. yes Although, they seem to have one worthy dead negro - Martin Luther King.
        3. Olgovich
          Olgovich 22 June 2020 10: 16
          0
          Quote: knn54
          In a giant bas-relief on Mount Rushmore, carved to mark the 150th anniversary of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt sculpture is next to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln.


          Soon, the two sculptures there, Washington and Roosevelt, will be returned to their original appearance, the appearance of natural SCAL.

          and to the Indians, if we follow the logic, we must return the land, and white must board the ships and back to Europe ... yes
          1. Mitroha
            Mitroha 22 June 2020 12: 19
            +2
            Quote: Olgovich
            and white needs to board the ships and back to Europe ... yes

            But this, sorry, nafig-nafig. Why do we need it here. Let the Indians deal with them there. I don’t know, they will hand out some blankets lol
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 22 June 2020 12: 44
              +3
              Quote: Mitroha
              But this, sorry, nafig-nafig. Why do we need it here necessary.

              Duc, between America and Europe, a bunch of places yes
        4. avg
          avg 22 June 2020 12: 19
          0
          Quote: knn54
          In a giant bas-relief on Mount Rushmore, carved to mark the 150th anniversary of the United States, the sculpture of Theodore Roosevelt is next to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln.

          Everything goes to the point that they will be reached, and in return they will carve something like a quartet: M.L. King, N. Mandela, J. Bokassa and Obama’s grandfather. And all riders will kneel down and offer a rooster as a sacrifice.
        5. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 37
          -1
          He fought against abuses by big business, nicknamed the “destroyer of trusts.” Could this be the reason?

          - "destroyer of trusts" is bullshit
          They destroy themselves from time to time.
          And here is the fact that he fought against the Nazis IN UNION WITH RUSSIA!
          - these are the "liberals" - don't ask ...
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 22 June 2020 18: 05
            +1
            Quote: tikhonov66
            And here is the fact that he fought against the Nazis IN UNION WITH RUSSIA!
            - these are the "liberals" - don't ask ...

            This is a monument to another Roosevelt - not Franklin, but Theodore (aka Roosevelt One).
            Theodore was rare arrogance and cynicism art of a politician: he took money for elections from monopolies, promised not to interfere in their activities - and after the victory began to actively promote antitrust legislation. The foundation for dismemberment "Standard Oil" Rockefeller failed "Teddy bear". smile

            The First and Second Roosevelts were also related by the anti-isolationist policy - Roosevelt the First, for example, "brought out the US fleet" by sending 1907 EBRs in 16 on a voyage around the world (Roosevelt's "Big White Fleet").
          2. Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg)
            Evgeny Goncharov (smoogg) 22 June 2020 19: 19
            0
            Do you still dream that they will notice you in the metropolis?
        6. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 22 June 2020 18: 57
          0
          Quote: knn54
          It's a shame that this decision was supported by his great-grandson.

          Still, a funny situation in the USA. In the year 2000, they had the year 2000. In 2017, the year 1937 came. In 2020 - 1917th.
          Negroes need to be more careful. Just a couple of years - and the United States will leave for 1861, then the blacks will become free consumables.
      3. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 22 June 2020 08: 02
        +7
        Quote: rocket757
        This is not a facet of one whole, it is different.

        With a revision of history, the collapse of a country usually begins! this is the verge.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 June 2020 08: 11
          +5
          Unfortunately, the revision of history took place more than once or twice .... Not we alone suffer from this, this is a common topic. For some reason, the new authorities begin from this, because they do not hope to become greater than the previous ones, they try to equalize the chances ... and this, as a rule, lies in the underestimation of the merits of the former, so that they themselves seem more, more great.
          That's it ....
        2. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 11: 09
          +6
          But the collapse is happening for a reason! There is a definite goal! The first is to remove the economic competitor! Who is the US rival? Is China sponsoring riots in the US? There seems a different purpose. It started with the twin tower. 911 Rescue Phone! The terrorists were blamed for the attacks. Although they did not encroach on the foundations of the United States and did not require a change of order! Do current protests require a change of order? I have not seen this yet. Well, then what is the point of all these protests? The introduction of more stringent orders! What were the protests after Hitler came to power? What happened with the enlargement of the Nazi European Union? A lot of volunteers on the side of Hitler! The economy worked without a sabotage for Hitler! Hitler’s army volunteered to serve! But Ukraine jerks !? We do not know everything that is happening with Ukraine. Where is the guarantee that there was no agreement on the division of Ukraine between Russia and the USA? Crimea Russia, Ukraine to the states! It is not true? And why, then, after the separation of Crimea and LDNR from Ukraine, the leaders in Crimea did not suffer, and in LDNR they were cleaned up? Why does the EU support Ukraine? Why did they sponsor ISIS, although they screamed that they (ISIS) were terrorists? Maybe a new world order is being created? In 1945, this idea was suppressed but not abandoned. It was created by NATO, then the EU. However, NATO and the EU were not radical organizations. They created al-Qaeda. Then the terrorist organization ISIS. And these were considered as fighters for justice! It seems the states are preparing to bring a radical regime to power! And this regime will try to swallow the whole world! Will they object to this? Who! Many objected to the sanctions imposed by the United States? Did many object to Hitler working for him? Have you imposed many sanctions against drug cartels? Can't determine the origin of the money? Why then were able to determine the assets of Russian oligarchs?
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 22 June 2020 11: 52
            0
            Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
            There is a definite goal! The first is to remove the economic competitor! Who is the US rival?

            What do you think the US Federal Reserve is a territory? or is it a nation? Is it an object or subject of the world economy? I think that the United States is the same country as Russia, Ukraine, Germany, etc ... which is subject to population decline ....
            1. SOVIET UNION 2
              SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 17: 02
              +4
              The USA is a country that holds in its hands the levers of world governance. I do not think that the task is to break the control mechanism. Rather, the task is to improve this mechanism. Protests do not threaten the US system. Perhaps part of the population will self-reduce with the help of weapons. But most likely the task is to build a totalitarian system. It is not in vain that the USA is gradually raking everything into its own hands. Even the US imposes sanctions on its own. The protests are of course funded there. At a stop of financing I doubt that people will demand something. Rather, the question will arise of nutrition and survival. Protest areas can be fenced by the type of reservation. Let them live there independently! But after the protests, as well as after September 11, tougher laws will be introduced. Perhaps they will be close in rigidity with the laws of Sharia. It’s not in vain that radical Islam was run in! If we consider the option of demolition of the United States, then what's the point? For the entire financial system to move to Belgium? And the presence in the USA of weapons of mass destruction is a weighty weight! What monkeys can get such grenades in their clutches? I think in the USA today a slightly different scenario than in the event of the collapse of the USSR.
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 43
            +1
            Where is the guarantee that there was no agreement on the division of Ukraine between Russia and the USA? Crimea Russia, Ukraine to the states! It is not true?

            - it is not true. And without any "questions".
            The United States grabbed "Nenko" - by 70% just because of the Crimea.
            Take a look at the map - One NATO base in the Crimea - and the Black Sea Fleet are locked up in the pitiful ports of the Caucasus that do not have any infrastructure. And this is not to mention the crushing historical and political defeat of Russia.
            - well, ddddUUUUM it is necessary, "conspiracy" you are ours ...
            well, just a little bit ...
            8-))
            1. SOVIET UNION 2
              SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 17: 13
              0
              Well, the states have seized not only Ukraine! With a generous hand, MSG poured out a lot of territories! EBN assented MSH, take who can swallow how much! Fleet in the Crimea !? If desired, the Americans can create a fleet in the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. The question is, do you need a fleet with missiles and the international financial system?
              - but because Europe - it was "united" - only THREE times in history.
              1) after the occupation of Europe by Napoleon
              2) after the occupation of Europe Guitrels
              3) after the occupation of Europe by the United States (FSA).
              - since both NATO and the EU are nothing more than US Occupational Instruments.
              No wonder both EU officials and NATO officials - they are NOT ELECTED by the peoples of Europe, but APPOINTED (guess who and how).
              - and this is MATCH.
              With this point of view, I agree.
          3. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 50
            +1
            Why does the EU support Ukraine?

            - but because Europe - it was "united" - only THREE times in history.
            1) after the occupation of Europe by Napoleon
            2) after the occupation of Europe Guitrels
            3) after the occupation of Europe by the United States (FSA).
            - since both NATO and the EU are nothing more than US Occupational Instruments.
            No wonder both EU officials and NATO officials - they are NOT ELECTED by the peoples of Europe, but APPOINTED (guess who and how).
            - and this is MATCH.
      4. iouris
        iouris 22 June 2020 12: 34
        +1
        Respect for T. Roosevelt.
        In 1900, the McKinley and Roosevelt team won the presidential election. March 4, 1901, McKinley took office as president for a second term, Roosevelt became vice president. On September 6 of that year, an assassination attempt was committed on McKinley, and on September 14 he died from his wound. Roosevelt was sworn in on the same day as the new president. He became the youngest (42 years and 10 months) president in US history.
        Having taken the oath, Roosevelt kept McKinley’s entire cabinet unchanged and assured the business community that he would not limit the activities of the monopolies, which the rest of the White House aspirants sought.
        On December 3, 1901, in his first message to the US Congress, Roosevelt declared his goal to achieve greater social justice. It was in the social sphere that the US government was experiencing the greatest problems at that time. The discontent of the masses caused by the growth of corruption and the dominance of monopolies deepened more and more.
        Wanting to calm down popular unrest and at the same time not limit the interests of monopolies, Roosevelt focused public attention on specific manifestations of social injustice on the part of certain "dishonest" trusts. Lawsuits were brought against a number of corporations, but in most cases corporations escaped with only minor fines. The trusts dissolved by court order were soon revived under new names.
        These lawsuits allowed Roosevelt to establish a reputation as a “destroyer of trusts” and, at the same time, allowed to continue essentially the policy of state non-interference in the activities of monopolies. Theodore Roosevelt created the image of the first great American hero of the new century - the age of the media. Roosevelt skillfully crossed the image of an unusually courageous and imperious figure, forcing a wide audience to dutifully accept him, and showed how aristocratic rule could flourish in conditions of mass democracy. He considered the absence or lack of masculinity a threat not only to political reforms in the country itself, but also to its political positions abroad. Many historians believe that by emphasizing masculinity in his policy, he thereby compensated for his weakness and pain in childhood. He learned from his father that he could become brave and a winner only if he was ready to fight.
        Roosevelt continued McKinley’s policy of abandoning isolationism and becoming America as a world imperialist power, active throughout the world.
        He owns the expressions "politics of the big baton" and "world policeman."
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 54
          +2
          Lawsuits were instituted against a number of corporations, but in most cases corporations escaped with only minor fines. The trusts dissolved by court order were soon revived under new names.

          - If you steal a BUN - you will be sent to prison,
          - Well, if you steal the RAILWAY - you will be elected to the Senate.
          (American saying)
      5. Catfish
        Catfish 22 June 2020 16: 41
        +2
        Hi victor hi What thoughts are there about the constant "drapery" of the mausoleum with shields and rags? Is there really someone who is afraid of someone or something "?
        1. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 22 June 2020 17: 21
          +1
          What thoughts are there about the constant "drapery" of the mausoleum with shields and rags? Is there really someone who is afraid of someone or something "?
          Yes, there is a specific deflection under the West! If the parade will be taken at the mausoleum, it will be a clear sign and a good slap in the West! The West then will immediately understand that it (the West) was sent seriously and for a long time! While the mausoleum is hidden from view, in the West they can sleep peacefully! Russia is under their control!
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 07: 02
      11
      From the United States of America there are reports of a decision by the authorities to dismantle the monument to the 26th President of the United States, Nobel Prize winner Theodore Roosevelt in New York.
      for the demolition of the monument to Dzerzhinsky, to demolish 10 monuments to the US congresses + Yeltsin’s temple .. angry
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 June 2020 07: 09
        +4
        It is unlikely that the EBN managed to rivet so many monuments ....
        So yes, the "palace" is not needed and even harmful .... for the sake of history, you can leave the bust on the rulers' alley, there is nowhere, it was and this is a fact of history. In his homeland ... let his fellow countrymen decide for themselves.
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 22 June 2020 07: 26
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          there let the countrymen decide for themselves.

          You wanted to say: diggers?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 June 2020 07: 52
            +4
            Let the fellow countrymen decide to call the diggers or let him leave the birds to roost.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 22 June 2020 07: 58
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              Let the fellow countrymen decide to call the diggers or let him leave the birds to roost.

              Greetings, Victor! hi We stock up on popcorn and see what happens next?
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 June 2020 08: 05
                +3
                Hi Dmitry soldier
                No, gatherings with popcorn, seeds, they don’t promise us anything good. Neither outside nor inside. It is necessary to unite and concentrate, study, watching the events, watching the eyes in the floor. They are at least interesting, instructive, but we have a lot of our business, tasks!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 22 June 2020 08: 12
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Hi Dmitry soldier
                  No, gatherings with popcorn, seeds, they don’t promise us anything good. ......!
                  you need to look at what they have there, because no one expected it .... And what other monuments will break? And will they understand that these are class protests? Class antagonism?
                  Although lovers of robbing join everyone ......
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 22 June 2020 08: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Class antagonism?

                    A lot of people, a lot of opinions .... all too mixed. There is an element of social protest, but there is also an elementary rampage, the thirst for destruction is enough ... a muddy batch. You’ll have to watch and wait for what it all means.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 22 June 2020 08: 31
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ..... A lot of people, a lot of opinions .... all too mixed. There is an element of social protest ........
                      Yes! Will more serious slogans sound?
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 22 June 2020 08: 55
                        +1
                        I do not know. It spreads like a fire, only the material for burning is diverse.
                        Even serious, knowledgeable people are in some confusion, because the goals of this whole action are not yet clear, by and large. Variety is confusing.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 22 June 2020 10: 21
                        +2
                        Quote: rocket757
                        I do not know. It spreads like a fire, only the material for burning is diverse.
                        Even serious, knowledgeable people are in some confusion, because the goals of this whole action are not yet clear, by and large. Variety is confusing.

                        A few years ago, our St. Petersburg scientist-historian Sergei Pereslegin suggested that a civil war would begin in the United States this 2020. There are stories on the web with these predictions. I listened to them before, and somehow I could not believe it ... But the beginning began to happen!
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 22 June 2020 11: 00
                        +3
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        There are stories on the web with these predictions.

                        Believe me, if a small part of the forecasts is collected and sorted by topic .... yes, any events are already predicted and described!
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 22 June 2020 11: 20
                        +2
                        Quote: rocket757
                        ....... Believe me, if a small part of the forecasts is collected and sorted by topic .... yes, any events are already predicted and described!
                        noooooooo, Victor! Civil war in the states ---- this is not for you any event! I suppose that if everything unfolds further, then the Mexicans laughing start to cross over the border, take part in robberies. They also have something to remember! Like states negative their territories were taken away! THAT would happen am
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 22 June 2020 11: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Civil war in the states ---- this is not any event for you!

                        Not simple, but many predicted and put dates for later.
                        The current events were to happen ... only the form they could have would be peculiar.
                    2. tikhonov66
                      tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 59
                      +2
                      There are stories on the web with these predictions.

                      - In the predictors of the future - NEVER THERE WAS A LACK.
                      8-))
                      - The problem has always been only - one
                      DETERMINE IN ADVANCE - WHICH OF THEM WILL BE RIGHT.
                      eight-))))
                    3. rocket757
                      rocket757 22 June 2020 14: 42
                      0
                      There are plenty of those wishing to fortune. Trapped in the bullseye, a lot less.
  • tikhonov66
    tikhonov66 22 June 2020 13: 56
    +2
    In his homeland ... let the fellow countrymen decide for themselves.

    - how to betray such a countryman to the earth ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 22 June 2020 14: 45
      0
      Estimates may be different, this is their decision ... although, they are the same as everyone else, probably.
  • Avior
    Avior 22 June 2020 07: 10
    -10 qualifying.
    So-so slogan, not the most thought out.
    Not all, monuments to whom in the world after death were demolished, an example to follow in life.
    Everyone will remember examples
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 June 2020 08: 08
    +3
    Here, close by, a couple of countries are also at war with both their history and monuments! An infectious disease that has deprived both the authorities of these "states" and the population of common sense and the brain!
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 22 June 2020 09: 39
    +3
    Quote: tots
    You can’t say better

    Yes, they are not afraid of monuments. It’s just that the monument will not be repulsed, that cowards and scoundrels are mocked.
    But in general, the war with monuments is a sure sign of the beginning of troubled times.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 22 June 2020 09: 52
      +1
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      It’s just that the monument will not fight back,

      Even as it will - Kharkiv Natsik will not let you lie. yes
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 22 June 2020 09: 54
        +1
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Even as it will - Kharkiv Natsik will not let you lie.

        Well, not all monuments can fight back.
        Therefore, more multi-purpose monuments! Just in case.
        And in general, you give the program of modernization of monuments to the level of PMM-1!
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 22 June 2020 10: 56
          +1
          Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Just in case.

          And, by the way, this is a topic - a monument with various anti-vandal "stuffing", something like KDZ and KAZ.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 22 June 2020 06: 37
    +3
    I wonder how this summer in the USA will end.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 22 June 2020 06: 54
      +5
      Summer will end ... autumn will begin. And the "jolly" will continue until ... it is stated differently, but it is clear that without a "firm hand" this bedlam cannot be calmed.
      1. Private-K
        Private-K 22 June 2020 07: 17
        10
        Quote: rocket757
        Summer will end ... autumn will begin. And the "jolly" will continue until ... it is stated differently, but it is clear that without a "firm hand" this bedlam cannot be calmed.

        And the desire is, and the will is. Trump. But there are no tools. And there is no "team of associates".
        Police raskaskana subordinate to the states / states, municipalities and sheriff counties.
        The armed forces refused - in the person of the Minister of Defense.
        The National Guard is also statewide.
        Something is not heard from the FBI, but Trump’s authorities aren’t completely there.
        And Trump himself is too decent and is afraid to sharply plunge the United States into the Civil War by calling in a "militia" from among those who voted for him and other adherents of "American conservatism."
        Most of the population in the hollow is zombified by left-liberal media ...
        The trouble came to that House.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 22 June 2020 07: 56
          0
          Quote: Private-K
          And the desire is, and the will is. Trump. But there are no tools. And there is no "team of associates".

          Where did the "Trump phenomenon" grow ??? Maybe he set goals, installations with a flaw? So this is THEIR business, but now it shakes a lot where and not weakly.
          1. Private-K
            Private-K 22 June 2020 08: 16
            +5
            And there is no "Trump phenomenon". More precisely, it is a phenomenon only for left-liberals surprised and offended by the "riot" of voting for him.
            Trump's goals are clear - to bring the United States back to the state of the 1950s. As amended, of course, but in general - there. In already semi-legendary, and partly semi-mythical America, to hippies, to rampant drug addiction, to a decline in education, to indulging parasites, to twisting freedoms, to ..., to ... to ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 22 June 2020 08: 22
              0
              Okay, these protests are a consequence of WHAT? Who brought it all up?
              1. Private-K
                Private-K 22 June 2020 08: 27
                0
                The point is not in the "protests" themselves, but in the mindset of the masses. And the establishment.
                The decades-long propaganda zombies have borne fruit. The people there just really think that they are doing something good, in the right way, in the fairness.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 22 June 2020 08: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Private-K
                  The point is not in the "protests" themselves, but in the mindset of the masses.

                  again, different opinions on this matter. There are more versions than protesters.
                  Usually you need to look at the result, to understand what it was ...
        2. Essex62
          Essex62 22 June 2020 08: 14
          10
          What can not but rejoice. Let them feel what a flower is, which they propagated all over the planet. They will feel what Soviet people felt surrounded by brutal nationalists in the former USSR republics.
          Masons will have to drag the printing press into the UK. Only this is pointless, without a fist, a piece of paper painted nothing. Gasoline there, gasoline
          Let it blaze. For the collapse of the Union, for crushed Iraq and bombed Belgrade.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 08: 36
            -2
            "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with what measure you mete, it will be measured to you also."
            Matt 7.1
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 22 June 2020 17: 24
              0
              And I, I don’t know whose Mr. Ivanov you are there, on the percussion instrument, priestly ravings
              Any time period in the life of human activity. This opium is for a drugged and in the past illiterate people. Well, it’s never authoritatively that there the henchmen of the burials were composed, in order to keep the people in obedience and justify the power of a handful of bloodsuckers.
              Now, mind you, the priests of all stripes behave very quietly and not aggressively.
              It was very difficult for the flock to hang pasta
              The achievements of science and the human mind does not allow.
              Some leaders, though they are trying to push into the basic law, will have to live as a criminal. He had already accepted all this bourgeois writing. Without waiting for us. You look and again they will wire fires legally.
    2. codetalker
      codetalker 22 June 2020 07: 01
      +4
      And this August has not come yet ...)
    3. Crane
      Crane 22 June 2020 07: 05
      +9
      Washington will be renamed some Floydtown laughing
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 07: 15
        +5
        Quote: Crane
        Washington will be renamed some Floydtown laughing

        Rather, in a more adequate Floyddown.
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  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 06: 42
    +4
    It goes, as you can see, to the monuments in honor of the US presidents.
    Yes, the puddle was either shallow or small. Bacillus Maidan found fertile soil. repeat
    If you follow the logic of the protesters, then the US authorities will have to start a campaign to rename a number of cities, as well as to change the appearance of dollar bills of a certain value. Indeed, not all presidents depicted on them (banknotes) advocated racial equality.
    There is a printing press, a Negro artist will be found. Of course, the money is far from graffiti, but .... However, Kin-dza-dza also didn’t have such a lot of money. It seems they have already pinned a lot of that kind of money. repeat
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 22 June 2020 07: 00
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Yes, the puddle was either shallow or small.

      The size of the puddle in this case has nothing to do with it. This is a home bacillus drain.
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 22 June 2020 08: 33
      +5
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      There is a printing press, a Negro artist will be found.

      The term "Black Cash" will sound in a new way. laughing
  • Rusland
    Rusland 22 June 2020 06: 42
    +5
    Aha and grave mounds will be leveled by the grader across America, I exaggerate of course. But that’s all. As a result, there will be museums that will talk about what museums were before. winked
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 22 June 2020 06: 43
    15
    Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) was the president of the United States from 1901-1909, he represented the Republican Party. He was a laureate of the Nobel Peace Prize for 1906 (for mediation in the conclusion of the Russian-Japanese Peace of Portsmouth). He survived two attempts on his life. The first attempt was made in 1912. Then, during the election campaign, a bullet hit him in the chest, first piercing the case of glasses and lying in his inner pocket, a thick 50-page manuscript with the speech that Roosevelt intended to give. Roosevelt, as a seasoned hunter with an understanding of anatomy, concluded that since he was not coughing up blood, the bullet did not pierce his lung; refusing to help, he delivered the intended speech while blood was spreading on his shirt, and spoke for 90 minutes. Roosevelt began with the words: "Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if you understand that I was just shot; but you can't just kill Elk." As it turned out later, the bullet entered the chest, but did not pierce the pleura, and it would be more dangerous to remove it than leave it as it is. Roosevelt carried this bullet in his chest for the rest of his life.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 22 June 2020 07: 20
      13
      outstanding personality ...
      that's just among Afronegros with some not so outstanding ... of politicians, I remember an obamka and an eccentric with a test tube Powell ... rebel Martin King ... musician Armstrong ... singer Houston ... well, a dozen more fighters like Ali, tyson, milling cutter, swarming junior plus a herd of steroid mutants a la "Williams brothers", well, an infinite number of all sorts of dumb-rappers and movie and TV stars ...
      somehow they are not particularly observed among the billionaires of the Silicon Valley and the Nobel laureates ...
      alas, but it all resembles a plot from the Hollywood hit "Planet of the Apes" ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 22 June 2020 07: 28
        14
        Quote: kepmor
        outstanding personality ...
        that's just among Afronegros with some not so outstanding ... of politicians, I remember an obamka and an eccentric with a test tube Powell ... rebel Martin King ... musician Armstrong ... singer Houston ... well, a dozen more fighters like Ali, tyson, milling cutter, swarming junior plus a herd of steroid mutants a la "Williams brothers", well, an infinite number of all sorts of dumb-rappers ...
        somehow they are not particularly observed among the billionaires of the Silicon Valley and the Nobel laureates ...
        alas, but it all resembles a plot from the Hollywood hit "Planet of the Apes" ...

        Duc, this is all the damned legacy of the slaveholding past and racial segregation.
        Well, now, it has reached the point of absurdity.

        “What kind of howl in the swamps, Barrymore?”
        “People who have never been slaves demand an apology from people who have never been slaves, sir.”
        1. Victorio
          Victorio 22 June 2020 08: 32
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Duc, this is all the damned legacy of the slaveholding past and racial segregation.

          ====
          yeah, your fellow tribesmen will have to fork out, and not only yours, probably
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 22 June 2020 08: 46
            +4
            Quote: Victorio
            yeah, your fellow tribesmen will have to fork out, and not only yours, probably

            Oh, don’t make my slippers laugh.
            The African American community rose robustly as a result of a peaceful protest. lol
            1. kepmor
              kepmor 22 June 2020 08: 57
              +1
              however, genetics, sir ...
            2. Victorio
              Victorio 22 June 2020 11: 27
              0
              Quote: A. Privalov
              Quote: Victorio
              yeah, have to fork out to your fellow tribesmen, and not only yours, surely

              Oh, don’t make my slippers laugh.
              African American community and so robust rose on robberies as a result of a peaceful protest. lol

              ===
              the results of the robberies will not pay off. another thing is that they will return again and all a hundredfold.
      2. Junior Private
        Junior Private 22 June 2020 13: 45
        +1
        How could you forget the brothers Williams, Whoopi Goldberg and the second husband Irina Ponarovskaya.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 June 2020 06: 44
    +7
    About dollars smiled ... Are we attending America's rejection of paper money? All bills with "wrong" presidents will stop accepting in exchange offices? And will the now world famous repeat offender addict and his family members appear on the replacement bills? belay
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 June 2020 06: 49
      +1
      change the appearance of dollar bills
      Okay monuments - maydanut is to blame! But Holy Bucks! The foundation of the basics! And bite him ... This is already beyond understanding! fellow
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 22 June 2020 09: 32
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        change the appearance of dollar bills
        Okay monuments - maydanut is to blame! But Holy Bucks! The foundation of the basics! And bite him ... This is already beyond understanding! fellow

        And I remembered about "" Teddy bear "" --- a teddy bear with an elongated muzzle. After all, this is the symbol of Roosevelt! And what --- will they start throwing them in the trash?
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 22 June 2020 19: 51
          +1
          Dmitry, in order to preserve the "Teddy bear" - it will be repainted in the "correct" black color. When the "blue" and "pink" ones start to rebel (protest) soon - the Teddy bear will be repainted in the "correct color" - the correct choice of color is a guarantee of political correctness.
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 22 June 2020 23: 03
            0
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Dmitry, in order to preserve the "Teddy bear" - it will be repainted in the "correct" black color. When the "blue" and "pink" ones start to rebel (protest) soon - the Teddy bear will be repainted in the "correct color" - the correct choice of color is a guarantee of political correctness.

            Yes, indeed! It will be so, probably .....
    2. Poetry
      Poetry 22 June 2020 12: 11
      +1
      Where are the comrades from the Ku Klux Klan looking? Chunga chang completely unbelted.
  • Waltasar
    Waltasar 22 June 2020 06: 46
    +4
    Insanity grew stronger.
    It remains to demolish the Lincoln memorial, he also did not have everything unequivocally.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 22 June 2020 06: 48
    +4
    The initiative of the museum’s leadership was supported by the authorities of New York, saying that if the population “has complaints about certain monuments, then the authorities are ready to listen.”

    Strange ... but they said, who will make him look like he is a monument? It turns out that they are not going to plant, but you can demolish it.
    About lifetime monuments, you can still like something to speculate ... if they were installed by the remembered, but historically held "ensemble" why break it ??? This is a common history for all, all citizens, and by the will of a handful of marginal people to do this, at all not to respect yourself ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 June 2020 09: 20
      +3
      I think it's time for the Indians to go on stage and demand their ... hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 June 2020 10: 51
        +1
        Hi soldier
        There, such a mess, in general, was formed that the wise Indian decided to sit in the wigwam and pull one, the other jamb ... from the ancestors advice to get ???
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 June 2020 19: 02
          +3
          It seems, but still, it seems to me that they will also declare themselves and whose lands it is.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 June 2020 20: 24
            +1
            It's hard to assess the prospects if the Indians want to jump on this "mustang" ??? will he be able, will he want to carry one more rider ???
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 June 2020 20: 26
              +3
              There will be forces that will play this card.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 June 2020 20: 40
                +1
                Everything is muddy ... what happens is like a big dirty game and a madhouse at the same time. Not the fact that the one who muddied this, will be able to achieve what he wanted ... the muddle can become uncontrollable.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 22 June 2020 20: 48
                  +3
                  And this is an inevitable process, everyone will pull the blanket in their direction and it will tear ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 22 June 2020 20: 56
                    +1
                    Fredovich should play on that! to give the suffering a protest to everyone according to their wishes! it will be easier to piece it in parts. The stakes are great! you can fight for them.
          2. Vrungeli
            Vrungeli 22 June 2020 20: 53
            -1
            Quote: cniza
            It seems, but still, it seems to me that they will also declare themselves and whose lands it is.

            I agree it's time Victor! ..And then some strange disassemblies are going on .. And the indigenous people who rightfully own this continent are still silent!
            When I watched Amer’s films, I always worried about Indians And many boys played Chinganchguk in the USSR, etc. ..
            The time has come for reckoning .. It's time to disperse everyone in their places, so to speak, to the historical dwellings .. (blacks to Africa, Angal-Saxons to England, etc.) I think it will be fair?
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 June 2020 20: 54
              +1
              Vitaly, retribution sooner or later, but will come true ...
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 22 June 2020 09: 25
      +2
      So he needed it because he continued the extermination of the Indians, which began under the British. He not only continued, but also completed this vile business. It was with him that a decree was issued on monetary compensation for scalps of Indians, both adults and children. Under him, General Johnson said a famous phrase about a dead Indian. My old dream has come true! The Americans hated him!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 June 2020 10: 53
        +2
        Fighting history ... you can do a more useful thing to restore universal justice.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 22 June 2020 11: 09
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Fighting history ... you can do a more useful thing to restore universal justice.

          I doubt very much that they will try this in their own country. Until I heard about the Indians, no remorse
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 June 2020 11: 22
            +2
            "repentance" under duress is very doubtful ... although sometimes it turns out that way.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 22 June 2020 11: 35
              +1
              laughing wassat
              Quote: rocket757
              "repentance" under duress is very doubtful ... although sometimes it turns out that way.

              Victor! Somehow I do not believe that these can themselves repent without coercion ??
              Here are the police and their other kneeling? Although this is not remorse .........
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 June 2020 12: 09
                +2
                Quote: Reptiloid
                Here are the police and their other kneeling? Although this is not remorse .........
                Reply

                It will still continue. There is no rebuff, it will go on increasing. This is an axiom.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 22 June 2020 13: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  ...... Still will continue. There is no rebuff, it will go on increasing. ......
                  I wonder how long it will last ..... elections are coming ????? .... and how ??
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 22 June 2020 13: 51
                    +1
                    Shaw guessing, events are going on, we’ll see the result.
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 23 June 2020 05: 57
                      +2
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Shaw guessing, events are going on, we’ll see the result.
                      many whom they have already torn down and maimed fool negative request for example, they not only drowned the monument to the slave trader Calton, they somehow desecrated Cervantes ... the General of the Confederate Army Pike --- demolished and burned, and demolished the monument to one of the former President General Grant (??????). ... someone else was thrown at the police building, dragged to court and thrown there ..... as they wrote --- a madhouse.
                      Good morning, Victor! hi hi I'm leaving soon
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 23 June 2020 07: 15
                        +1
                        Good morning soldier
                        A mess, meaningless and dangerous for society as a whole, does not carry anything positive.
                        The specific cunning guys will try to take advantage of this booth, only for their own benefit and EVERYTHING!
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 23 June 2020 08: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Good morning soldier
                        A mess, meaningless and dangerous for society as a whole, does not carry anything positive.
                        The specific cunning guys will try to take advantage of this booth, only for their own benefit and EVERYTHING!
                        the conclusion from the destruction suggests --- to destroy without disassembling, and knowledge of history --- no!
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 23 June 2020 08: 27
                        +1
                        Dmitry, there does NOT Smell of knowledge there at all, any ... in the mass. Only some of the center, the top ones, that is, if it is not just a program of action.
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 23 June 2020 17: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Dmitry, ...... Only at some central, topmost, that is, if it is not just a program of action.
                        Yes, there is a lot of controversy, let's see ....
  • tatra
    tatra 22 June 2020 06: 56
    +4
    If the Negroes initially organized a riot, then everything else was arranged by the American government - against the police. Against the white population, against the history of the USA. But why is all this necessary for the American authorities?
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 22 June 2020 08: 06
      0
      It is the federal government in the person of Trump who wants to end the batch. After Trump's election to the presidency, there was a split in the elite, which gradually turned into an abscess and now the boil is bursting ... And the fact that in the localities and in the government someone is working against Trump - the split did not occur along the party line, but according to belonging to that or another group (let's call them conditionally "cosmopolitans" and "nationalists"). That is why there are Democrats calling for order, and there are Republicans who openly went against "their" president.
      Lately it seems to me that "cosmopolitans" are gradually moving to "after us, even a flood." Only it is not clear where they will run if it does not work out - Rostov is not rubber. Perhaps we agreed with President Xi to open their own business in Shanghai ... Soros's bistro, Stone Buddy tavern, Old Bill and Hilaya Monica pub ...
    2. dauria
      dauria 22 June 2020 08: 26
      +2
      But why is all this necessary for the American authorities?

      Exorcise Trump's outsider. It used to be peacefully sharing the pie at a round table, growling, glancing at each other, but not biting. And then the unexpected got in, and even with the "reforms" redistribution of pieces. The sabotage is so obvious that one is amazed. However, it is always and everywhere. Fussing at the bottom is impossible without bickering at the top.
      1. tatra
        tatra 22 June 2020 08: 38
        +1
        Well, all this is too much to just topple Trump. The myth of "Great America" ​​is a myth of WHITE America, and now white America has been humiliated, forced to kneel in front of blacks, in front of a photo of a drug addict and criminal Floyd, a guilt complex has been instilled in White America. America's history has been discredited, those who have always been considered great people of America.
  • Olegater
    Olegater 22 June 2020 06: 56
    +8
    Good morning, dear forum users!
    With the start of these riots in the United States, I recalled an article on Trump’s election day. Everyone wondered what would happen to him. Trump is a trader, but not a politician. Raiding, market capture, blackmail, yes, military operations will be delayed to the last. And his opponents (relatively speaking democrats) need a victorious war, after which they will again become overseers of the world. Now the aggressive Democrats have run out of patience and what we observe has happened.
    I never believe in spontaneity and uncontrolled strikers !!!!
    Once Trump is picked up, everyone will calm down. America will not collapse; all this is controllable and organized.
    And the fun begins. The conquest of the world by force. Instead of John put Pence, well, or someone else, managed. This is the most convenient person, that is, he will make a decision that will be dictated.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 22 June 2020 07: 11
      +5
      I never believe in spontaneity and uncontrolled strikers !!!!
      Once Trump is picked up, everyone will calm down. America will not collapse; all this is controllable and organized.

      Absolutely agree!!! And the replacement of dollars is also "in the stream". A great way to get rid of excess money and make the whole world buy the latest pieces of paper abruptly. At 95m they already did so.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 22 June 2020 06: 57
    +2
    "Come on, smash into the khuzars!" Bring to insanity! laughing
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 22 June 2020 07: 00
    +1
    The author really distorts! Roosevelt sits there on a horse, and an Indian and a Negro are walking nearby. And in the light of the current events in the states, this is not at all politically correct. They will be taken away to the storerooms, settled, and when everything calms down they will be returned back.
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      1. Dangerous
        Dangerous 22 June 2020 08: 56
        0
        The article discusses events in the United States. It will be wrong to write about foreign events and endlessly compare what is happening with Russia. This is just news, a simple statement of fact, if you like.
      2. 5-9
        5-9 22 June 2020 10: 17
        -1
        you are just like a Soviet propagandist - "and in the US they lynch blacks."
        Well, about 17 thousand and 3,5 pieces - this is an unscrupulous juggling, even if it has nothing to do with the article ...
        1. kjhg
          kjhg 22 June 2020 11: 26
          -5
          Quote: 5-9
          Well, about 17 thousand and 3,5 pieces - this is an unscrupulous juggling

          Is that what you said in the evening? The ex-wife of my old friend Nikolai, who had worked as a teacher at school for many years and had been the school principal for many years, quit her job in 2004 and left for the USA to work as a nanny. At first I wanted to work for 3 years, save up children for apartments and return home. As a result, after working for 5 years, she returned home, divorced her husband and went back to work as a governess in the same American family. She said that she no longer wants to plow for a penny in Russia. The last time I talked with Nikolai, he said that she receives $ 3200 and sends children $ 1500 every month. Ex-wife Lyudmila lives with her new husband in the states. Nikolay drank too much. Whether alive today, I don’t know. Since then, he has lost contact with him. Here is such a tragedy of a single Russian family.
          1. 5-9
            5-9 22 June 2020 11: 58
            -2
            Once again, 17 thousand - what is it all and where is it from? The average salary in the Russian Federation 44 thousand if that ...
            3500 pieces per month in the USA (dirty !!!) is not a bad salary for the outback ... in it or in LA it is poverty .... a non-bomber costs from 2500 per month .... and to compare at face value is crazy.
            Which of course does not negate the higher standard of living there .... and 40% of working Americans receive 2000 or less.

            Do you think there people go out into the streets because they are snickering, so chtol? What is your message about Nicholas?
  • Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +2
    Instead of a monument, it’s better to dismantle your country
    1. Ru_Na
      Ru_Na 22 June 2020 07: 09
      +3
      It seems that everything is going to this!
      1. cniza
        cniza 22 June 2020 09: 18
        0
        And we did not even have time to do something.
  • Avior
    Avior 22 June 2020 07: 08
    0
    The article has anything but an explanation of why they want to remove the monument.
    In fact, the monument is a composition of Roosevelt on a horse and an Indian and a black man at his feet. Some take it offensively
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 22 June 2020 07: 20
      +6
      For me it’s so that to demolish the monument to Roosevelt, that Lenin’s mausoleum to hang banners. Birds of a feather. It is sad that our authorities do not want to understand this stubbornly.
      1. Avior
        Avior 22 June 2020 07: 23
        -4
        Roosevelt himself has no complaints; moreover, he is the first to invite a black man to the White House.
        The very composition of the monument is considered unsuccessful so much that Roosevelt’s great-grandson himself, the trustee of the museum
    2. yfast
      yfast 22 June 2020 08: 27
      +7
      So let the negro be demolished, Roosevelt, for what?
    3. Senior seaman
      Senior seaman 22 June 2020 09: 36
      +1
      Thank you.
      I, too, did not quite understand from the article what claims to Teddy?
      The composition is indeed not the most successful, although it cannot be said to be completely racist. Adjusted for the time, and nothing like that. IMHO essno.
    4. Junior Private
      Junior Private 22 June 2020 13: 57
      0
      Well, swap the niger with Roosevelt so that the pale-faced person doesn’t especially rise above the democracies, and don’t touch the horse. The horse is an intelligent animal.
  • demo
    demo 22 June 2020 07: 22
    +6
    Insanity and foolishness.
    There is only one way out: either send a batch of "White" or a batch of "Kuzbass varnish" to the USA, with the expectation that there will be enough for everyone.

    The protracted "St. Bartholomew's Night" in the American interpretation.
    I'm waiting for the "white brothers" in hoods with a slit for the eyes, start shooting people with dark skin right on the streets.
    I do not exclude this option.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 22 June 2020 09: 00
      -2
      Now it will not be so easy to do, blacks are well armed and there are not a few of them
      1. demo
        demo 22 June 2020 09: 16
        +3
        I do not advocate violence or murder.
        But when the crowd begins to demand the fulfillment of completely unacceptable conditions, when state institutions are destroyed, when a clearly expressed criminal who has committed a criminal offense (using fake banknotes) is resisting, after which he is killed by negligence, which leads to a surge of reverse disproportionate violence, which can be turned against the white majority, it seems to me that the majority is ready to lay their lives on the altar of victory to explain to the black minority where the Ivory Coast is located. In which direction and at what speed should one move there.
        This is if the word "tolerance" stops being spoken aloud.
        This is if White understands that they are white.
        And what we see now is confusion and vacillations.
        For some reason, I want the Negroes to make a mess in New York.
        Such a coven, five to six months.
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 22 June 2020 07: 25
    +4
    not comrades go the right way ...
  • svp67
    svp67 22 June 2020 07: 39
    +3
    The initiative arose amid US protests against racism
    Well done, but why only a monument? It is more effective to PROHIBIT the sale and display of the "Teddy bear" soft toy

    After all, he bears the name of this President of the United States and thanks to him
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 22 June 2020 07: 49
      +1
      Teddy Bear, by the way, is black. Now, if he was a polar bear ...
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 22 June 2020 09: 45
        0
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Teddy Bear, by the way, is black

        It remains for tolerance to prohibit black and dark night!
  • 1536
    1536 22 June 2020 08: 01
    +2
    It seems that Western countries, primarily the United States, want to start a new story in order to write it from scratch. The former is the lot of scientists and archivists, and we live today and now, for us the past is our life and nothing more. Even Henry Ford with his conveyor production did not think of such a thing. Even the Nazis relied on the memory of the Nebilungs, etc. myths. Today, the establishment of some kind of Khmer Rouge regime of Polpot and Yeng Sari is approaching. How it ended for Combodia is well known. But the United States will only become stronger, since it will nullify everything that, from their point of view, requires zeroing, and will impose its will on humanity as a strong man. Like in a wolf pack or badger hole. When people come to their senses, it may be too late.
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 June 2020 09: 16
      +2
      But the United States will only become stronger, since it will nullify everything that, from their point of view, requires zeroing, and will impose its will on humanity as a strong man.


      If they remain as a single state ...
    2. Selevc
      Selevc 23 June 2020 15: 52
      0
      It seems that Western countries, primarily the United States, want to start a new story in order to write it from scratch.
      I think that the fact is that at the end of the 20th century the USA invented special political technologies for overthrowing regimes in other countries of the Old Europe, first of all ... Because the New World against the background of the Old World is always unstable and wants to consider itself the center of the world before Total !!!

      And these their games of freedom, their racial wars, these battles of the sexes in the USA are all blows to them by their own political technologies !!! As they say - the American war ax dug by the Yankees was then double-edged !!!
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 22 June 2020 08: 09
    0
    The state is a system of people's survival without losing their cultural identity (c) Americans have lost their cultural identity ...
    Just like the chenevmerliks wassat
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 June 2020 09: 15
      +3
      Quote: Tank jacket
      The Americans lost their cultural identity ...
      Just like the chenevmerliks wassat


      Did they have it?
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 22 June 2020 09: 56
        0
        Victor, welcome hi , until 1969 I believe that it was. Until the Finintern began propaganda of tolerance, multiculturalism and LGBT ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 22 June 2020 19: 00
          +2
          These were the beginnings, if there was a culture, then it would have survived and survived, and so it burst without being born.
  • Ruby
    Ruby 22 June 2020 08: 36
    0
    Quote: arhitroll
    not comrades go the right way ...

    It remains to stand and repent on my knees. I think we will see soon.
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 June 2020 09: 14
      +2
      Isn’t it yet?
  • Kibl
    Kibl 22 June 2020 08: 41
    +1
    Yes, don’t! Let them demolish! This gopot would only have to destroy something, plunder, bomb! It’s in their subcortex, we can say instinct. For them, this is the norm!
  • cniza
    cniza 22 June 2020 09: 13
    +3
    The initiative of the museum’s leadership was supported by the authorities of New York, saying that if the population “has complaints about certain monuments, then the authorities are ready to listen.”


    The authorities have no brains left, but by the way, these are your problems.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 22 June 2020 09: 23
    +1
    The Americans also caught this infection ................. now they will teach everyone who to demolish what monuments?
    laughing laughing wink
  • unaha
    unaha 22 June 2020 09: 28
    +1
    Fanaticism and extremes are usually not brought to good ...
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 22 June 2020 09: 46
    +7
    The world will destroy multiculturalism and tolerance.

    The first snow fell ...
    8:00 I made a snowman.
    8:10 My feminist neighbor asked, why didn’t I make a snowball.
    8:15 So I also made a snowball.
    8:17 My feminist sitting next to me looked at the tempting breasts of the snow-covered bean and began to complain that the snow-bears were being objectively activated everywhere.
    8:20 Gay spouses who live nearby grumbled displeased: it would be better to have blinded two snowmen!
    8:22 A transgender neighbor asked why I didn't just make a Bigfoot with removable parts.
    8:25 Vegetarians in the neighborhood rebuked for a carrot nose, they say, vegetables - this is food, not decoration.
    8:28 A black neighbor called me a racist because the snowman and the snow woman are white.
    8:31 A Muslim who lives across the road demanded that the snow woman wear a hijab.
    8:40 The police arrived to call about insulting feelings.
    8:42 A feminist neighbor asked to remove a broomstick from a snow woman who hints at the role of a housewife.
    8:43 The President of the Homeowners Association threatens me with eviction.
    8:45 A local TV crew came and asked if I knew the difference between snowmen and snow women. Answering: "Snowballs?", Immediately received the stigma: sexist!
    9:00 AM I was shown in the morning news, calling me a racist, homophobic, suspected of insulting my feelings as a terrorist, prone to incite hatred during bad weather.
    9:10 They interrogate me, demanding to extradite accomplices. Children were taken by social services.
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 22 June 2020 09: 59
      +1
      hi Thank you very much for your comment, I can’t laugh laughing
  • SS-18
    SS-18 22 June 2020 09: 50
    +7
    insanity grows stronger .. as it goes on, then all whites urgently need to change their skin color.
  • Serhio Dias_2
    Serhio Dias_2 22 June 2020 09: 50
    +1
    At this pace, Obama's portrait will soon displace one of the white presidents on one of the dollar bills.
    And on the topic - Roosevelt was one of the best presidents of the United States.
    As if the macaques had not jumped before the Civil War - White also has patience not rubber, but there are enough weapons on hand.
  • wlkw
    wlkw 22 June 2020 10: 04
    +1
    I thought that only with us the madhouse with the demolition of monuments, but it turns out to be contagious ....
  • Zhan
    Zhan 22 June 2020 10: 09
    0
    Here is your grandmother and St. George’s day ... yes
    Frankly, I never thought that this was happening in America.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 22 June 2020 10: 11
    +3

    The same Minneapolis, July 15, 2017 - three years ago.
    A young Australian-American Justin Damond was shot dead at point blank by police officer Mohammed Noor when she ran out in her pajamas to meet a police patrol, which she herself had called earlier.

    This (former) policeman is an African-American member of the Somali community.
    But for some reason, protesters and fighters against racism did not take to the streets.
    There were no pogroms anywhere.
    And African-Americans were not afraid that they would all be accused of “insufficient love” for the white population of the country.
    And nobody paid much attention to the news in the media ...
    Then there was just a trial of a specific person who made a specific fatal mistake, and now they are carefully fanning the topic of a certain “racism”.

    The theme of "racial oppression" has long and finally become an instrument of blackmail and manipulation. An effective way of that part of society that has never been slaves is to terrorize those who have never been slaveholders.
  • 5-9
    5-9 22 June 2020 10: 23
    0
    It will be interesting to see how it all ends ... I think after the election, and it will grow up to them.
    The fact that the protestors are being wound up and the racial issue is the tenth thing is understandable .... but then the undermining of the very foundations of Amer’s statehood and a run over to the law enforcement system, or rather its grassroots and municipal element, went on. Those. the split in the elite is so strong that they’re sacrificing it already ... although Trump’s opponents are globalists, they are essentially purple in the United States as a country.
  • avib
    avib 22 June 2020 10: 24
    +1
    Johnson and Johnson announced the discontinuation of skin whitening products. Such a fight against racism. The world is going crazy. The message that they want to make chess from black and white to blue and pink no longer seems like a funny curiosity. And the keys on the piano are somehow repainted.
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  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 June 2020 15: 18
    +1
    If they are not stopped, they will get to the presidents in dollars and they will not like the Statue of Liberty, a gift from France (the face of the statue is French).
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 June 2020 17: 52
    0
    I support both sides and as a fan I demand more trash and fumes in the territory of the united ......... laughing
  • Peter is not the first
    Peter is not the first 22 June 2020 21: 06
    0
    as well as changing the appearance of dollar bills of a certain value. Indeed, not all presidents depicted on them (banknotes) advocated racial equality.

    On the "holy", on the dollar, do not encroach on! Americans, whether white, black or yellow, first of all look at the denomination of the dollar bill, and not at the president's porter on it.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 June 2020 21: 46
    0
    So I say, remove presidents from banknotes. Instead, put this. True tolerance is lame. One black against two white. laughing