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The United States announced the possibility of a “revolution” in the early warning system and anti-hypersonic weapons

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In the US, it has been stated that it is crucial for safety to develop early warning systems. This is primarily about the modernization of satellites included in the early warning system about a missile attack.


American observer Teresa Hitchens publishes material on this subject with reference to representatives of the Center for Space and Rocket Systems. The material says that the Pentagon is considering the future configuration of the satellite system with the possibility of constant infrared sensing. It is noted that the new infrared monitoring satellites, placed in relatively low Earth orbits, "will lead to a real revolution in early warning systems."

The decision to change not only the "filling" of the satellites, but also the parameters of their orbit, was made in the American Joint Chiefs of Staff. General John Heiten, deputy head of this committee, put it this way:
Our satellites in geostationary orbit are large and attractive targets. We need more flexible architecture in near space.

One of the new options is the creation of a large group of LEO satellites - those that will occupy places in "low" orbits. In this case, we are talking about orbits with a "height" of up to 2000 km above sea level. Part of the new system, as noted, can be placed in the so-called MEO-zone of outer space. This zone is called part of the near-Earth space in the range from 2000 km to the geostationary orbit.

At an event at the American Mitchell Institute, which was devoted to missile defense issues, words were said that the updated satellite system should be able to provide early warning of the launches of all types of missiles, including hypersonic.

It is planned that the first "turn" of new satellites with an "anti-hypersonic" function will begin to work in orbit by 2029. By that time, according to the United States, they will have their own hypersonic as well as anti-hypersonic weapon.

These materials and statements can be interpreted as the “American response to Putin,” which a few days ago in an interview touched on the issue of anti-hypersonic weapons.
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  1. RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER 21 June 2020 10: 59 New
    +5
    And again they ask for money. And what else lies behind such statements?
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 June 2020 11: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      And again they ask for money. And what else lies behind such statements?


      Draw us into the arms race and they often bluff, as with the USSR and SDI.
      1. Ham
        Ham 21 June 2020 11: 17 New
        13
        Drag us into an arms race

        the arms race has been going on for a long time, it has simply changed places and now the USSR is on the scene - the stagnating United States whose public debt is growing by a trillion per month, where there is a black riot, where monuments are felled, etc.
        the trampoline on twitter doesn’t have time to break off - they’ve already cut the moon, and they have built ice breakers and a super-duper rocket ... now here’s a new one, just give money;) but with the money, it’s just a seam ...
        that’s why they put forward idiotic demands on the latest Russian developments - because they don’t have such a thing and they won’t succeed in creating in the near future, but money - water, is flowing out in trillions ...
        1. Bogatyrev
          Bogatyrev 21 June 2020 11: 30 New
          -9
          Yes, but unlike us, they still retain REAL technical leadership. For now.
        2. mvg
          mvg 21 June 2020 12: 39 New
          -7
          and money is water, flowing out in trillions ...

          You think? And are there any checks?
          They at least build something, fly somewhere, and this is the Russian Federation invested in US securities, and not vice versa.
          In your pants, dash pockets, count it first.
          1. Ham
            Ham 21 June 2020 13: 25 New
            +5
            Yes, you look at their public debt! why should I take that?))) per month the trickle is already growing! are invested in paper rf and what?
            in how horny mongrels were aroused - they offended the mistress!)))
            1. bar
              bar 21 June 2020 14: 43 New
              +3
              Yes, you look at their public debt! why should I take that?))) per month the trickle is already growing!

              What should they worry about for their duty. They’re not going to give it away.
              1. Ham
                Ham 21 June 2020 20: 47 New
                +1
                They’re not going to give it away

                here the matter is different ... they live while someone is BUYING their debt! whether they are going or not going to give it away - the tenth thing ... they are unlikely to be able to give it back if they even want to ...
                but as soon as they stop buying it (while it still manages to draw it in to all the Belgians, the Netherlands and Japan), their economy will instantly turn into a Zimbabwean - when tons of unsecured paper are printed
            2. bayard
              bayard 21 June 2020 15: 59 New
              0
              And why look at their debt, their budget was almost always scarce, and now there is a crisis, Negro rebellion, and now they are collecting debt - from their own Fed.
              By the way, over the past month, the central banks of the main donors of the US Federal Reserve - Japan, England, Italy, Germany, France, China, Saudi Arabia ... withdraw their money from the Fed bonds - over 177 billion dollars. sold out over the past month.
              And for some reason, Russia, on the contrary, was purchased by this rotten asset. But almost zeroed its contribution to the Fed - 4 billion remained ...

              Trump is now collecting debt from the Fed, and in the near future he is going to make him a "surplus" ... and not only him, but also the leading banks and financial groups of the United States - at least 16 trillion to confiscate ... So the Europeans, Yapas and China it is not for nothing that they are hastily withdrawing their money from there - they know what it threatens them.
              But that’s why the central bank of Russia was bought again, but at the time of such a feverish sale ... the question is interesting ... Perhaps even the question of the true sovereignty of modern Russia ...

              And it’s not worthwhile to drag the former Ukraine into every comment, it looks very pathetic and stupid, especially when it is behind the eyes. For example, I write from Donetsk, and to me this cheers patriotism in the liver. It is necessary to boast about what is really there, but will not be, maybe someday ... yes

              The United States really has a gag - they pro ... slaughtered the rearmament of their army, bogged down in a heap of conflicts around the world and missed the breakthrough of China and Russia. Now they are trying to catch up in a hectic way. Something comes out, something doesn’t ... They just choked in many directions at once (weapons systems), including hypersonic carriers.
              This is serious . The goals are very fast, the reaction time is extremely short, modern air defense / missile defense systems will not cope with them. And the main task is the timely detection of the launch of such missiles. And this is possible only from outer space - the curvature of the surface of the globe interferes with terrestrial means.
              So what do they do \ plan everything right - otherwise it’s just not possible, but the fact that someone will make money on it request , this is theirs - a bourgeois affair.
              With our rearmament, we have problems above the roof. Where are our AWACS aircraft? Why in the 12 years since the start of the A-50 modernization program, ONLY 6 (SIX) such aircraft have been upgraded? By what means is it planned to control and direct air battles and operations in the event of a very likely war? I’m already silent about the A-100 which was promised back in 2015. But why weren’t the two dozen Soviet-built A-50s armed with the modernization? For 12 years !!!
              It is nonsense ?
              Or wrecking?
              The VKS fighter fleet has been radically updated, but all of these aircraft will be left without effective control in the event of a real war. And they will be destroyed in air battles, because they will be blind.
              Therefore, laughing at the problems of a very likely opponent is, of course, good, but you still need to see and understand YOUR problems first.
              And the United States disappear from the world map, we will not diminish the problems with this world - Russia is not the USSR! China alone will bring no less than hemorrhoids. And there are others.
        3. bar
          bar 21 June 2020 14: 40 New
          -1
          now here’s a new one, only give money;) but with the money it’s just the seams ...

          With money, they are just fine. Their printing industry copes with printing.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 21 June 2020 11: 51 New
        +4
        On the other hand, let them build and maintain a group. This is a kind of "Damage" from the appearance of GP weapons. Moreover, it is in the mines, but there is damage.
    2. Benedict
      Benedict 21 June 2020 11: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      And again they ask for money

      Naturally .... Everyone hopes for their companions and other electronics ..? But in the event of a serious conflict, we will begin to wet this particular system .. Blind and the panic will begin. God forbid, of course, but let Russia not be angry! hi
      Kneel before the blacks, but do not want to Russia? After all, the United States was the first to recognize the Russian Empire. Everyone forgot quickly negative
    3. knn54
      knn54 21 June 2020 11: 44 New
      -11
      1. "Vanguard" and analogs are used as a carrier / accelerator of ICBMs, the launch of which will be detected by infrared sensors of the early detection system. They will also detect the plasma trail in the atmosphere. Yes, and the radio wave method will detect
      a sharp change in conductivity.
      2. At the final (terminal) section, the module significantly reduces the speed. And the THAAD complex or low-orbit orbital lasers can theoretically hit the target. Or anti-missile missiles.
      3. Alas, but by definition a hypersonic unit cannot carry (for confusion) false targets.
      So there is reason to think.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 21 June 2020 11: 56 New
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        To nn54 - who told you that hypersonic missiles cannot be launched from "strategists" of the Tu160 type? Where did you get the idea that such missiles at the final stage of the flight “significantly reduce their speed?” Why not write that they slow down in the atmosphere, land a “payload” in low orbit, and then fly after a new warhead?
        1. knn54
          knn54 21 June 2020 13: 03 New
          -2
          Thrifty:
          1. Hypersonic missiles are launched from ships. The article deals specifically with launches from ICBMs.
          2. Regarding the decrease in speed on the final trajectory, this is AZE.
          Take the trouble to master them.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 21 June 2020 14: 35 New
        +2
        They will detect, but they will not be able to calculate the point of fall.
    4. Cananecat
      Cananecat 21 June 2020 21: 26 New
      -2
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      And again they ask for money. And what else lies behind such statements?

      And here the question arises for the "plumbers" from the FSB; Guys, is there nothing flowing there?
  2. cniza
    cniza 21 June 2020 11: 02 New
    +7
    The United States announced the possibility of a “revolution” in the early warning system and anti-hypersonic weapons


    The flywheel begins to spin up, if only we can hold back and not break into the race, let them catch up with us where they are behind, and we have enough money to hold back.
    1. Benedict
      Benedict 21 June 2020 11: 16 New
      -3
      Quote: cniza
      The flywheel begins to spin up, if only we can hold back and not break into the race, let them catch up with us where they are behind, and we have enough money to hold back.

      Victor right off the tongue. good . The main thing is not to break into the arms race, on this they want to catch us, to destroy us, like the USSR .... There is something to sag and thank God! We sit and smile ..
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 June 2020 11: 38 New
        +5
        It is necessary to rationally use the resources that we have and everything will be fine.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 21 June 2020 11: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      The flywheel begins to spin

      A carcass can be skinned in a variety of ways.
      You can do more, more of what is invented. You can find other equally effective methods to protect yourself!
      Science, young scientific personnel and a powerful scientific and industrial base, a real way to level various threats. soldier
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 June 2020 11: 43 New
        +6
        Quote: rocket757

        Science, young scientific personnel and a powerful scientific and industrial base, a real way to level various threats. soldier


        And competent government policy in the allocation and control of spending.
        Greetings! hi
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 21 June 2020 11: 46 New
          0
          This is "homework" for the top! Everything will depend on its implementation!
          1. cniza
            cniza 21 June 2020 11: 48 New
            +3
            We have few real statesmen there, very few ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 21 June 2020 11: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              We have few real statesmen there, very few ...

              To speak on this topic .... all that could have been expressed a hundred times by many knowledgeable people.
            2. Benedict
              Benedict 21 June 2020 13: 47 New
              +1
              Quote: cniza
              We have few real statesmen there, very few ...

              I agree ..! Disposable sit .. Drip and dump!
              This is scary Victor! And here on the site they’re being screwed up .. hi
          2. Serg72
            Serg72 21 June 2020 23: 43 New
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            What are you talking about ? Our "top" ones or theirs? The task is about what? How to "PREVENT" hypersound? Well, warn the launch in two, even three seconds, what will it give you ?? She is already in 3.6. - on board your aircraft carrier. no options for destruction ... Are you talking about this?
      2. Benedict
        Benedict 21 June 2020 11: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        Science, young scientific personnel and a powerful scientific and industrial base, a real way to level various threats.

        That's right, Victor .. Restoration of the standard of Soviet education and the system of distribution of specialists .. I learned, be so kind to work, somewhere on the periphery .. Get some experience, etc. And then where not spit everywhere higher education ... But there are NO real specialists-universalists! Moscow in general has turned into some kind of "Babylon" ..
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 21 June 2020 12: 01 New
          +1
          Yes, Soviet standards, the Soviet school, the Soviet way of development ... not everything is exactly the same, but for the most part very effective. They allowed the country to withstand tremendous stress and negative pressure from the outside. They brought Soviet science to the forefront in many areas.
          It’s not necessary to repeat everything, but the very best must be used. After all, this is the inheritance of the ancestors from which only go / E / t can refuse ... or the enemy of our Motherland!
          1. Benedict
            Benedict 21 June 2020 12: 57 New
            -1
            Quote: rocket757
            Yes, Soviet standards, the Soviet school, the Soviet way of development ... not everything is exactly the same, but for the most part very effective. They allowed the country to withstand tremendous stress and negative pressure from the outside. They brought Soviet science to the forefront in many areas.

            It is to withstand and make a jerk Victor! So it was after the Civil War and then after the Second World War. There was something at all, I can’t understand it (first satellite, first astronaut, etc.)
            Quote: rocket757
            It’s not necessary to repeat everything, but the very best must be used. After all, this is the inheritance of the ancestors from which only go / E / t can refuse ... or the enemy of our Motherland!

            I agree that the format should be a little different, but in fact we should strive for this .. What we were offered in the 90s leads to ruin and collapse ..
            It's time to collect stones and remember all the best. That was and restore the country ..

            This song of the string of my soul is ringing strongly on the table and ..
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 21 June 2020 13: 09 New
              +1
              We have WHOM, WHAT, proud! It is necessary to make our descendants proud of us!
              Continuity of generations, this should not remain empty words! This is our destiny!
              1. Benedict
                Benedict 21 June 2020 13: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: rocket757
                We have WHOM, WHAT, proud! It is necessary to make our descendants proud of us!

                It is necessary to recapture the Country from demons (90s), etc. Then you can die ..
                That's what the soul hurts about ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 21 June 2020 14: 26 New
                  +1
                  First you need to banish the demon, day, indifference, despair from yourself, and then you can swing everything else.
                  To do this, get everyone together. Friends, associates will always help!
                  There is no other way.
                  1. Benedict
                    Benedict 21 June 2020 14: 57 New
                    +2
                    Quote: rocket757
                    First you need to banish the demon, day, indifference, despair from yourself, and then you can swing everything else.
                    To do this, get everyone together. Friends, associates will always help!
                    There is no other way.

                    What words !!!!!! Ah Victor. Everything needs to be changed, but first, it’s necessary ..
                    No other way .. hi
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 21 June 2020 15: 56 New
                      0
                      Nobody came up with anything new. We repeat, offer, the long-known, voiced by many more than once.
    3. Bratkov Oleg
      Bratkov Oleg 22 June 2020 18: 53 New
      0
      Quote: cniza
      The flywheel begins to spin up, if only we can hold back and not break into the race, let them catch up with us where they are behind, and we have enough money to hold back.

      Yes, they filmed the Moon in the pavilion, the first time they got into space 20 years after Gagarin's flight ... The first ICBMs were also fakes, they could, presumably, finish off the maximum to Kamchatka, or maybe they did not reach the territory of the USSR. Aircraft of the 5th generation cannot fly at supersonic speed at a cruising speed, because the paint is peeling off, and the Patriots can’t see when strikes are being struck at oil depots and at the US airfield ... They can only pay with dollars and bribe, they promise an apartment in Florida to officials there , and those in the rear of the enemy bring down the industry, the "enemy of the United States" is destroyed with their own hands, that's all military power. Only this scheme no longer works either in Russia or in China.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 June 2020 11: 05 New
    +2

    It is planned that the first “turn” of new satellites with an “anti-hypersonic” function will begin to operate in orbit by 2029.
    "Do not count your chickens before they are hatched".
    1. Benedict
      Benedict 21 June 2020 11: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      "Do not count your chickens before they are hatched".

      They are trying to reassure their taxpayers why the Russians overtook them in hyper and have no protection .. Although the military budget is almost $ 1 trillion!
      And the blacks are protesting, they began to feed less benefits ..))))
      These are the things at the center of strategic planning ..
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 21 June 2020 11: 15 New
        +2
        Benito Today, 11:13

        So yes, also trump tweet, and that's it! - overtaken)) in hyper Russia. wink
        1. Benedict
          Benedict 21 June 2020 11: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: aszzz888
          Benito Today, 11:13

          So yes, also trump tweet, and that's it! - overtaken)) in hyper Russia. wink

          Western countries have survived .. The country from social networks is controlled by a pancake!
          And in hyper, let them catch up .. Russia has not yet betrayed, we defend ourselves as we can. and live, chew bread .. hi
  4. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 21 June 2020 11: 16 New
    0
    This is primarily about the modernization of satellites included in the early warning system about a missile attack.
    Well, yes, as it turns out in the space Internet project, Ilon Max is actively involved in DARPA, apparently his companions will be participating in the American real-time ballot box, which naturally is not advertised, and given how many of them their ballistic ballot box will really work for the whole ball in real time
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 June 2020 11: 53 New
      +4
      When Musk announced his Starlink project, everyone laughed at him, including both the Pentagon and DARPA. It was believed that launching a network of thousands of satellites was unrealistic.
      When it turned out that it was real and already in the process of deployment, the military "woke up". And already very, very politely asked Musk to "participate"
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 21 June 2020 12: 36 New
        +1
        launch a network of thousands of satellites is unrealistic

        And how many Musk are going to deploy satellites?
        1. Freemason Mason
          Freemason Mason 21 June 2020 13: 01 New
          +1
          At the first stage - about 4 and a half thousand. On the second, it plans to bring the number of satellites to 12 thousand. 538 satellites are currently in orbit
      2. Benedict
        Benedict 21 June 2020 13: 51 New
        -1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        When it turned out that it was real and already in the process of deployment, the military "woke up". And already very, very politely asked Musk to "participate"

        Is it Israel? ..? Your mask disagreed .. And what hysteria and cries were laughing Then everything calmed down sharply on the Internet, etc.
      3. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 21 June 2020 15: 03 New
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        very, very politely asked Musk to "participate"

        I think when the Pentagon and DARPA ask, then you can’t refuse anyway, at least politely at least not. But there is an opinion that his satellite Internet will certainly lose the competition to 5G Internet, so he was unlikely to be upset by such unexpected help, and it is possible that his project continues to develop only because of this.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 21 June 2020 15: 33 New
          -2
          Financial analysts predict its global network trillions of profits (from each cent we multiply by billions of people laughing ) Therefore, the Pentagon’s handouts for him will be a drop in the bucket.
          1. _Ugene_
            _Ugene_ 21 June 2020 18: 28 New
            +2
            We'll wait and see, there is an opinion that in developed countries 5G will be cheaper and faster, and in undeveloped countries, for example in Africa, the majority of Starlink receiving equipment will not be affordable (there was infa that it will not be as cheap as it was promised at first). It seems that all this was conceived on the basis of the widespread introduction of the digital economy, including unmanned vehicles, etc., but in the first it is not yet very developed, and in the second, again 5G is more appropriate here, after 5-10 it will be clear that all this will result, but while investors are willingly investing in this project
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 21 June 2020 11: 17 New
    +3
    .... We are waiting for initiatives from the United States to reduce or not use hypersonic weapons ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 June 2020 11: 50 New
      +4
      A meeting the other day, let's see what they sing ...
      1. Benedict
        Benedict 21 June 2020 14: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        A meeting the other day, let's see what they sing ...

        The song will be the same .. But Russia has a bunch of trump cards up its sleeve. hi
    2. Bratkov Oleg
      Bratkov Oleg 22 June 2020 18: 59 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      .... We are waiting for initiatives from the United States to reduce or not use hypersonic weapons ...

      They did just that with Yeltsin, showed him an unfinished wagon from which they didn’t make any start-up, and, wifi-fifties, or 50x50, and the United States destroyed one unfinished experimental wagon, which didn’t work, and Russia destroyed 12 deployed trains standing on combat duty, that is, 36 missiles, with 360 warheads, with a terribly high probability of survival in a sudden attack on Russia. BZDRK were called ... Well, what, an honest deal, the United States only play fair.
  6. Cowbra
    Cowbra 21 June 2020 11: 17 New
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    It is noted that the new infrared monitoring satellites, placed in relatively low Earth orbits, "will lead to a real revolution in early warning systems."

    Greetings to the sect of Elon Musk, who tells about the fact that he is "all by himself, all by himself and a very private entrepreneur." Who does not understand - this is about Starlink, owned by Spice-He. Yeah, yes, a private trader, and FALCON also had nothing to do with the rapid global strike program, a pure coincidence with the DARPA Falcon Project laughing
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 21 June 2020 14: 20 New
      0
      Falcon brainchild of Darpa in its purest form.
  7. Poetry
    Poetry 21 June 2020 11: 18 New
    0
    They look like a dog who understands everything at all, only he can’t say anything. A missile should have a speed of 1,5-2 times higher than a missile.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 June 2020 11: 56 New
      0
      Not. The interception goes towards, not after. It is enough for a missile to fly at half the speed of an attacking missile. But getting in anyway is very difficult.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 21 June 2020 12: 05 New
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        Quote: voyaka uh
        It is enough for a missile to fly at half the speed of an attacking missile.

        and double overload at half speed. Maneuverability should be higher ... Yeah, everyone believed. It's funny ...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 21 June 2020 12: 14 New
          0
          A missile defense does not maneuver. It takes the apparatus - the kinetic killer - to the trajectory of the attacking rocket. The device carries out only fine-tuning. The rocket itself hits the apparatus and collapses.
          Always happy to explain hi
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 21 June 2020 12: 27 New
            +1
            Paz-drav-la-yu in this case, the United States with a 100500 cut - the missile defense does not maneuver. The trouble is that hypersonic weapons ALREADY maneuver
            1. Nehist
              Nehist 21 June 2020 13: 38 New
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              On the active site does not maneuver ... There is no way, it itself to collapse, no one canceled physics !!!
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 21 June 2020 13: 47 New
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                Avangard is a Russian missile system equipped with guided warhead

                U-oops. That is Hochma. Moreover, the whole problem with hypersound was the stabilization of the flight, i.e. management, i.e. maneuverability.
                1. Nehist
                  Nehist 21 June 2020 13: 52 New
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                  Manageability at the end of the flight when the warhead itself leaves the hyper sound ... You can hit it but it’s difficult, about 5% chance that nothing ...
                  1. Cowbra
                    Cowbra 21 June 2020 14: 04 New
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                    Unknown TTX and mode of action are not declassified. However, it is known that the US hypersonic program is curtailed for the reason that the unit quickly lost stabilization in flight - that is, it must also be controlled in the hypersonic section. That is - to maneuver .... And further, the missile enters the maneuverable area and, in any case, the anti-missile flies into milk ...
          2. Bratkov Oleg
            Bratkov Oleg 22 June 2020 19: 01 New
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            A missile defense maneuvers, has a radar, and must itself distinguish false targets from true ones.
            Always happy to explain hi
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 22 June 2020 20: 45 New
              +1
              Kinetic killer is the 3rd step. This is not a rocket, but a spacecraft,
              detachable in space. He has no radar. And there are optical IR sensors
              and spectral sensors for detecting false targets.
              Here's how it looks:
  8. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 21 June 2020 11: 20 New
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    They already have a prototype of the global infrared monitoring system, here it was mentioned in some article. So yes, it will work. Given that a hypersonic missile is visible in the IR range all the time, and not just in the acceleration section. Invented very well.
    Well ... if we have not only advertising samples of these missiles, but a substantial number of them have been developed, then ... Then we must attack! Before the enemy negates our advantage.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 21 June 2020 11: 35 New
      +4
      No one has a global advantage. The answer will fly in any direction.
      On this this WORLD is held.
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 June 2020 11: 40 New
        +2
        This is so, but in other types and areas it is necessary to develop reasonably.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 21 June 2020 11: 43 New
          +1
          You need to start from SCHOOL! There is no longer where we can take the potential for the real development of our science.
          1. cniza
            cniza 21 June 2020 11: 45 New
            +3
            School, base, experience without this, nothing will work, well, and the state’s effort.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 22 June 2020 09: 15 New
              +1
              The school has been diligently destroyed, but despite this, destruction continues. Mr. Gref really needs slaves.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 21 June 2020 11: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Mikhail3
      range constantly, and not just in the upper stage. Invented very well.
      Well ... if we have not only advertising samples of these missiles, but a substantial number of them have been developed, then ... Then we must attack! Before the enemy negates our advantage.

      The advantage is illusory! Well, do you recognize that you are launching a hypersonic rocket? From a distance of 500 km, for example. Let it be slow, 2 km / s. 4 minutes of flight time. While the signal about the attack comes, analysis of the approximate area of ​​impact ... All this works - when a single rocket attacks someone ... The satellites fly, no one blinds or jamming them ... All communication lines work ... Yes, really it will be ?
      1. cniza
        cniza 21 June 2020 12: 09 New
        +4
        Of course, in reality no one knows how it will be, but they assume that the connection will disappear, therefore, we don’t know what anyone has prepared as an understudy.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 22 June 2020 09: 19 New
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        You can shoot down anything if you manage to calculate the trajectory in time and fire a missile defense. The Americans have gigantic computing power and the ability to build it up wherever they want. There are missiles, not too good, but with normal target designation they will do. So alas. They have the opportunity to get a ten-twenty-forty-fold supply. Enough for everything. The situation is quite scanty.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 22 June 2020 10: 24 New
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          Quote: Mikhail3
          You can shoot down anything if you manage to calculate the trajectory in time and fire a missile defense. The Americans have gigantic computing power and the ability to build it up wherever they want

          Another champion of the "omnipotent" ... I hasten to disappoint you. These missiles are maneuvering. And the algorithm for maneuvering during an attack may not be very simple. The "light elves" themselves believe that they have NO effective countermeasures, and ask for a lot of money and time to find it.
          But you believe in them! More than themselves ...
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 22 June 2020 12: 16 New
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            Antimissiles are even more maneuverable) The "it won't be easy" argument always surprises me. Just write in the bathhouse, you don't need to take off your panties. And yes, they do not have the necessary funds. Not now. Not yet. They love lush announcements. But the funds are about to appear.
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 22 June 2020 12: 54 New
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              Quote: Mikhail3
              The argument "it won't be easy

              This is a mild form of expression "absolutely impossible at the modern technical level" ... wassat maneuvering at hyperspeeds, even for an attacking missile, is carried out with extreme overloads (due to speed), but the "anticipatory point" is difficult to calculate, and even more so to get into it ...
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 22 June 2020 17: 36 New
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                Missing comment. I will try to repeat.
                Have you ever seen an older fighter snapping greyhound youth over his proud noses? How he does it)? After all, young people have better joints, do they move faster? The wizard moves much slower (although it can be fast), simply because he knows where to move to remove a quick but dumb attack.
                A missile does not need hypersonic speed to bring down hypersonic. She only needs to be where hypersonic will be. This is solved by calculations and timely received information. But a hypersonic missile with maneuvering has huge problems, just because of speed.
                So, if you shoot an anti-missile missile with the right calculation, its normal speed and usual maneuverability will be enough for it to "cover" the hypersound. Unfortunately. We have a significant advantage. UNTIL, Soon it will be gone.
                A properly developed economy always defeats geniuses.
                1. Mountain shooter
                  Mountain shooter 22 June 2020 18: 11 New
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                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  unfortunately We have a major advantage. Bye, Soon it will not be.
                  A properly developed economy always defeats geniuses.

                  Where, where is the developed economy? Your clever, very clever missile needs to GET to the point where the trajectories intersect ... In short, fools designers make air defense missiles as fast as possible in order to hit fast targets with high probability. And you had to do slow !!! wassat
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 23 June 2020 08: 44 New
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                    You just don’t understand what I’m talking about. Think, learn, grow on yourself. Once understanding comes.
        2. Bratkov Oleg
          Bratkov Oleg 3 September 2020 02: 31 New
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          When Iran launched ballistic missiles at an American base, the Americans were warned 2 hours in advance. So what? Where is their computing power? There are patriots, computing power, and a cherry on top - about a couple of hundred corpses, that is, American warriors, defenseless against old Soviet missiles, stupidly flying through ballistics.
          By the way, a reference to one of the Russian factories, and what it does in the country, a gas station.
          https://ic.milandr.ru/products/radiatsionno_stoykie_mikroskhemy/
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 3 September 2020 09: 19 New
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            Uh-uh ... How would it be clearer?) In general, when someone called and said - "they will shoot at you," and when data on the missile trajectory comes to the operational unit of the anti-missile system, its intended type and signature is not same. That is, absolutely. In general terms.
            For the past 60 years, both we and the Americans have been warned that the enemy will one day fire rockets at you. But this warning will not matter when the missiles come out of the mines. This "information opposition" of yours is so pitiful that it is not clear why you are paid at all at your "troll factory". Or are you deliberately disgracing yourself by trying to frame the employer under the guise of work?
            Does the site assign these "titles" to you? Because it is very doubtful that you could gain karma with comments of this class ...
            Yes, about the link. Someone has a cool budget. Again. Generally, from "radiation-resistant" microcircuits benefits, like a goat of milk. The one who got the government (of course, with accomplices from the government) in this Panama, just took advantage of the technical illiteracy of the other thieves.
            Nobody wants "radiation-resistant" stuff. We need chips from list A, that is, from the top of the quality distribution curve. But to get such, the use of outdated technologies with much larger tracks and a much larger processor with much less capabilities, as in this garbage, will not work. And duplicating shit over and over doesn't make things better either.
            This is not an achievement. It's shame ...
            1. Bratkov Oleg
              Bratkov Oleg 7 September 2020 18: 10 New
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              I studied to be an officer of the Strategic Missile Forces, and served for 4 more years, and in 1989 I left the army, because I did not see a future for myself in uniform.
              And looking from the heights of Soviet military education, I am ashamed of you, couch strategists, carrying such a blizzard. Sadly, brainless morons are allowed to type anything at all.
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 8 September 2020 09: 08 New
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                I am an air defense officer in reserve for about the same years. And looking at you I am ashamed of the Soviet system of military education ...
                1. Bratkov Oleg
                  Bratkov Oleg 9 September 2020 11: 40 New
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                  An air defense officer? You have nothing to do with nuclear weapons.
                  1. Mikhail3
                    Mikhail3 9 September 2020 12: 05 New
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                    And I do not have to interplanetary flights. And to the production of marshmallows too. Idea in god dilo, idea the devil dad?
    3. 3danimal
      3danimal 22 June 2020 21: 15 New
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      Are you seriously? fool
  9. unhappy
    unhappy 21 June 2020 11: 30 New
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    And I thought - mass detectors or tachyon sensors were invented, and here again they saw the budget. laughing
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 21 June 2020 17: 33 New
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      Grandmas will give under tachyons, so they will find tachyons. laughing The truth then turns out that they are not of that system. hi
  10. Military Specialist
    Military Specialist 21 June 2020 11: 32 New
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    The detection of hypersonic aircraft in itself is not a problem in itself. This weapon does not belong to the class of inconspicuous, given the characteristics of hypersonic flight in the atmosphere. But the fight against him is really a problem. The bottom line is that for active impact on the GLA (i.e. interception), almost continuous monitoring of this device is required throughout the flight path, and this is already problematic, given the relatively high maneuverability of the GLA. Therefore, the very fact of detecting the launch of such an aircraft gives little. It is theoretically possible to build a low-orbit satellite system that could continuously monitor (and even with high accuracy) a GLA flight over a route with a length of 7-8 thousand km, but the number of spacecraft will be enormous, and the cost of such a system will be prohibitive.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 21 June 2020 12: 49 New
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      Quote: Military Specialist
      but the number of spacecraft will be enormous, and the cost of such a system - beyond.

      How much do you think is enough?
      US Army Signs Three-Year Agreement With SpaceX Billionaire Elon Musk On Partnership Under Starlink Project Introducing Near-Earth Orbit 12 thousands satellites.
      1. Bratkov Oleg
        Bratkov Oleg 3 September 2020 02: 39 New
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        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        How much do you think is enough?
        The US Army has signed a three-year agreement with billionaire Elon Musk's SpaceX to collaborate on the Starlink project, which will launch 12 satellites into low-Earth orbit.

        These are 12 thousand transceivers, not radars. The radar is much more complicated, the US budget will not pull the drain.
    2. Nehist
      Nehist 21 June 2020 13: 41 New
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      Well, he can’t maneuver for speed ... There is not a single confirmed fact
      1. Bratkov Oleg
        Bratkov Oleg 9 September 2020 11: 43 New
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        Quote: Nehist
        Well, he can’t maneuver for speed ... There is not a single confirmed fact

        Even as you can, just with the same overloads as on the An-2 maize truck, on hypersound you find yourself much farther from the original supposed trajectory.
        1. Nehist
          Nehist 9 September 2020 15: 46 New
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          Not how the laws of Physics have changed? !!! Enlighten me then how you are going to bypass the three fundamental laws of Newton
          1. Bratkov Oleg
            Bratkov Oleg 9 September 2020 20: 50 New
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            At least read them in a school textbook, these are the laws of physics! Or haven't you yet?
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 21 June 2020 11: 33 New
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    . will start working in orbit by 2029.

    You might think that the development of percussion instruments will stand still.
    The arms race was, is and will be.
    Here the issue is already more economic. Who will be sustainable. Yes, the development of the scientific base is also important as always.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 21 June 2020 12: 23 New
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      I suspect that the anti-aircraft missile system for the destruction of hypersonic targets will cost an order of magnitude higher than a hypersonic missile to work on the surface, and spend on one such target will have 3-7 SAM
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 June 2020 13: 01 New
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        Attacks, now, are not cheap either, which are advanced, but especially vigorous !!! But defense means, by many factors, are much more expensive ... those that are equally advanced.
        There is no particular choice, either to do more and more expensively, or to prevent attacks by effective methods ... "own tanks", on enemy airfields, as an option!
        The choice is not ah, if you look.
  12. Bogatyrev
    Bogatyrev 21 June 2020 11: 35 New
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    "Including hypersonic" ... what do they mean?
    How does the launch of a "hypersonic missile" differ from the launch of a "conventional" one? The same Vanguard starts with the usual UR-100UTTH and is no different at the start in the infrared range.
    Or do they mean an air-launched cruise missile, which no one has yet?
    1. Military Specialist
      Military Specialist 21 June 2020 11: 48 New
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      To date, there are two types of combat GLA in development:
      1. Planning GLA (winged warheads, planning warheads, etc. .... there are several options for the names of these weapons) - they make quasi-stationary planning in the upper atmosphere, are launched using ballistic missiles (that is, they are their combat equipment ), but the active excretion site of such an aircraft differs from the ordinary BR in a more gentle form (the height of the GLA compartment is 60-70 km);
      2. Hypersonic cruise missiles (GZKR) - make an active flight using the WFD (scramjet) at altitudes of about 30 km at a speed of 6-8 M.
      1. Bogatyrev
        Bogatyrev 21 June 2020 11: 56 New
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        Well, that's what I mean. Their goal "to detect the launch of a g / s missile" is meaningless.

        If this is the first type, it starts on a regular rocket and it can hardly be distinguished from a satellite. But knowing in which mines the Vanguards are set, they can detect them now.

        If the second, then it is made from airspace and can be carried out anywhere. And it is also indistinguishable from the START of any cruise missile. It is possible to understand that this is the GKKR only by tracking its flight, and not by START, for which satellites are useless. As well, and for fixing the start.

        So what are we talking about? And why do they need low-orbit infrared satellites for this? Perhaps this is simply nothing more than the elimination of the "Peresvetov" factor, which will blind the existing SPRN satellites at our launch?
  13. Mouse
    Mouse 21 June 2020 11: 43 New
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    need more flexible architecture in near space


    wink
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 21 June 2020 14: 41 New
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      hi Whoever gets on the bridge of them is flexible, as well as a healthy argument between aunts. yes Uncles are not far from them. smile
  14. businessv
    businessv 21 June 2020 11: 57 New
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    It is planned that the first “turn” of new satellites with an “anti-hypersonic” function will begin to operate in orbit by 2029.
    Well, as far as space is concerned, the minke whales had countless projects like that, including Reagan's "Star Wars".
  15. mark2
    mark2 21 June 2020 11: 58 New
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    This method of maintaining peace on the planet will go down in history as the "Arms Race". The meaning of this method is to force the enemy to constantly improve weapons, to make him think that he is not ready for war. And while he is preparing, there will be no war, but as he never thinks that he is ready, give him a new idea and let him prepare further.
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  17. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 June 2020 17: 28 New
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    Trying to introduce this system and its effectiveness? laughing As Hollywood usually shows, a large group of people are behind the monitors, in the center of the panel is an animated image of the Earth. Two in classic suits and one in military uniform with cups of coffee in their hands are waiting for reports. And lo! He follows. Mr. Twister, Lieutenant Colonels Ivanov, Petrov and Sidorov ate their bortsch, drank two glasses of vodka and go to their TsKP to launch hypersonic missiles. This is a warning earlier. laughing And after launch, what is there to warn? It is necessary to tick.
  18. Tom Johnson
    Tom Johnson 22 June 2020 00: 47 New
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    SBIRS was not the best selection of its day. There was a better solution when the choice was made. Hypersonics have again opened up the box.
  19. Zhevlonenko
    Zhevlonenko 22 June 2020 07: 01 New
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    Scan in the infrared, xs xs, the earth there glows like a Christmas tree, and see against the background of extensive illuminations of cities, a point .... Wait and see.
  20. pytar
    pytar 22 June 2020 10: 53 New
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    A network of thousands of early warning satellites in low Earth orbit like Starlink could prove to be quite effective. Elon Musk, with his Falcons 9 has already demonstrated how you can do this "cheap and cheerful" ... I suspect that soon around the Earth it will become densely populated ... winked