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Photo of an experimental Chinese anti-aircraft system hit the net

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В социальной сети Twitter появились фотографии неизвестной китайской самоходной зенитной системы.


Судя по всему, речь идет об экспериментальной 25-мм зенитной системе войсковой противовоздушной обороны. На фотографиях мы видим, что зенитное орудие размещено на колесной платформе.

Как известно, Китай давно производит собственные самоходные зенитные системы для нужд войсковой противовоздушной обороны. Так, с 1999 года в КНР выпускается самоходный зенитный ракетно-пушечный комплекс PGZ-95, пушечное вооружение которого напоминает 25-мм зенитную пушку Oerlikon Contraves KBA швейцарского производства. Но PGZ-95 размещается на гусеничной платформе.

На фотографиях в Twitter мы видим зенитную систему на колесной платформе, проезжающую по улице одного из китайских городов.

Photo of an experimental Chinese anti-aircraft system hit the net






Зафиксированные перемещения новой зенитной системы с шестиствольной пушкой определенно говорят о том, что работа над дальнейшим совершенствованием средств войсковой противовоздушной обороны в Китае продолжается. Не случайно столь настороженно за новыми разработками наблюдают в соседней Индии, являющейся главным региональным конкурентом Китая.

Так, индийские читатели в Twitter довольно резко отреагировали на фотографии экспериментальной китайской зенитной системы, не забыв подчеркнуть, что Китай ворует технологии у США и России, что и позволяет ему держать на плаву собственную военную промышленность.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 20 June 2020 12: 33 New
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    This is the defense of the last frontier. Could be so.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 20 June 2020 12: 53 New
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      The return on such a six-barrel is not comic.
      Quote: rocket757
      This is the defense of the last frontier. Could be so

      On wheels set. Well, how does it swing on shock absorbers? Retractable hydraulic supports - loss of efficiency. And you won’t open fire on the go.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 June 2020 13: 01 New
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        I do not know what weight this platform has, so the system can be balanced due to the rate of fire, the angle of the trunks and adjustable air suspension.
        Not so complicated engineering calculation, if you look. Moreover, if the on-board computer will manage everything, a completely stable system can be made.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 20 June 2020 13: 17 New
          +5
          Quote: rocket757
          I don’t know how much weight this platform has, so the system can be balanced due to the rate of fire, the angle of the trunks and adjustable air suspension

          Темп стрельбы можно регулировать только за счёт частоты вращения блока стволов - а это не мгновенно...и система не в одну точку огонь ведёт, а цель сопровождает. У которой может быстро меняться угловая скорость относительно установки... Не верю, что такую задачу можно решить легко. Лёгкая платформа и есть лёгкая. "Панцирь" вон какой тяжёлый, так у него и стволы, по-моему, с дульными тормозами. Отдача скорострельных систем - серьезная инженерная проблема.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 June 2020 13: 33 New
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            Not just, but modern adaptive control and stabilization systems, these are much greater opportunities, speeds than previously used passive systems.
            I do not claim that it is there, it’s just possible at the modern technological level ... however, the price is completely different.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 20 June 2020 15: 56 New
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              The technique is similar to modular. Self-propelled platform and tower.
              So, instead of a tower, anything can be - even a radar, at least a more or less large caliber. Such a platform should be heavy, armored.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 20 June 2020 16: 39 New
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                You can look for TTX, but we have a dispute that is not fundamental, so in about nothing.
                We simply state the variety of development of Chinese products.
          2. businessv
            businessv 20 June 2020 21: 50 New
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            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            The impact of rapid-fire systems is a serious engineering problem.
            Some Belleville springs that return the bolt frame 23 mm ZP to its original position, what are they worth! But the rate of fire is just crazy!
          3. Yarhann
            Yarhann 21 June 2020 21: 17 New
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            these systems do not conduct continuous fire, a short salvo is made - a cloud of shells is created into which the target will fall. if the target is not hit then another salvo is made.
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 20 June 2020 13: 26 New
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          20

          They made a bunch of modules for this APC. Which, unlike the Boomerang, is riveted by hundreds annually.
          122mm howitzers


          Wheel tanks with 105mm Chinese L7 (Israeli ammunition is also extended, there are even missiles).


          The latest anti-tank complex (HJ-10 - range of 10 km, the rocket flies with a complex profile and dives into the roof) for marines and wheeled brigades -


          155mm export howitzer
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 20 June 2020 13: 38 New
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            Есть рабочая платформа, а "обвес" на неё найдут.
            The Chinese are moving forward; this cannot be taken away from them.
            Their neighbors tensed and .... and FIG knows how it will go further
          2. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 20 June 2020 13: 55 New
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            Here you are all arguing about the suspension, but in fact for these photos someone in China can be shot!
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 20 June 2020 14: 01 New
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              Mao died a long time ago. Now no problem. The main censorship is necessary to put. And that is soft. Previously, for example, the hangar and dock were censored, but now it’s not.
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 20 June 2020 14: 04 New
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                Do not tell. About six years ago they discussed that, if I am not mistaken, the guy who got into the net was sent to court for a photo of the new fighter.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 20 June 2020 15: 22 New
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                  he accidentally read on the factory’s internal network, not secret, about the supply of fighters to China.
                  reported this online in the dispute as an argument in the dispute over shipments to China, conducted one examination, the information is not secret, and the second was secret.
                  received a term of 4,5 years.
                  sad
          3. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 20 June 2020 22: 01 New
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            Quote: donavi49
            122mm howitzers

            Кстати, на фото видно, ведущая огонь гаубица серьезно так "приседает" очевидно, что не вывешена на опорах... А амортизаторы могут привести к раскачке. Сбивая прицел и снижая скорострельность. Хотя, 20 тонн...тоже не маленькая коробочка...
        3. Rostislav
          Rostislav 20 June 2020 13: 42 New
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          There is not enough stiffness in the air suspension. If it were enough, then they would not have put hydro-supports. He brought the suspension stiffness to maximum, got a stable platform and in general calculations are not needed, neither elevation angle nor rate of fire. But it doesn’t work ...
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 20 June 2020 16: 32 New
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            Quote: Rostislav
            There is not enough stiffness in the air suspension.

            На "Граде" проблема решается "отключением подрессоривания"
  2. FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 20 June 2020 12: 33 New
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    They say that work on further improving the means of military air defense in China continues.

    The Chinese are working.
    It is no coincidence that new developments are watched so wary in neighboring India

    And the Indians are watching with caution.
  3. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 June 2020 12: 44 New
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    Steals or does not steal .... try to bluntly copy according to drawings or a sample. The Chinese have their own elemental base, optics. diesel, armor, machine manufacturing.
  4. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 20 June 2020 12: 49 New
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    The recorded movements of the new anti-aircraft system with a six-barreled gun definitely indicate that ...

    Помнится, в "C&C Генералы", типа того же было... lol
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 June 2020 13: 00 New
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    25mm, won't it be weak? Now cermet makes it possible to hold up to 30 mm without harm to the crew of the same helicopter. He will erase this spit in the dust.
    1. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 20 June 2020 13: 12 New
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      For drones will do ...
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  7. donavi49
    donavi49 20 June 2020 13: 13 New
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    Why is the unknown? It is not only famous, but even exported.



    There is also a version with a 35mm KDA gun (as on the Cheetah) and 4 SAMs.

  8. knn54
    knn54 20 June 2020 13: 17 New
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    On the Toyota Prius, the Yankees installed a 20-millimeter six-barreled high-speed machine gun with a rotating barrel unit - the M61 Vulcan from the F-22 fighter.
    https://motor.ru/news/cannonprius-19-11-2018.htm
  9. Voyager
    Voyager 20 June 2020 17: 03 New
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    В который раз удивляюсь старенькой игре C&C Generals, где китайцы представлены с кучей перспективной фантастической техники, которая сегодня буквально реализуется в металле. Здесь вам и некие "миги" внешностью как 1.44 и J-20, которые в итоге получил Китай, и теперь зенитки с шестистволками и многое другое... Напомню, игре почти 20 лет laughing

  10. JonnyT
    JonnyT 20 June 2020 18: 43 New
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    Chinese archaism. How do they maintain such a motley fleet of vehicles?