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Section "French inheritance." How Hitler humiliated France

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Section "French inheritance." How Hitler humiliated France

Wilhelm Keitel and Charles Hüntziger during the signing of the truce. June 22, 1940


80 years ago, on June 22, 1940, France signed a surrender at Compiegne. The new Compiegne truce was signed at the same place where the ceasefire was signed in 1918, which, according to Hitler, symbolized historical revenge of Germany.

The collapse of the French front


On June 12, 1940, the French front collapsed. In the western sector, the Germans crossed the Seine, in the east south of the Marne they reached Monmiraia. Champagne south irresistibly moved Tanks Guderian. With the consent of the government, the French commander in chief Weygand declared the French capital an open city. On June 14, the Nazis occupied Paris without a fight. By order of Weygand, the French troops began a general retreat, trying to get out of enemy attacks. The French command planned to create a new line of defense from Caen on the coast, Le Mans, Middle Loire, Clamcy, Dijon, Dol.

The High Command of the Wehrmacht, with the French leaving the area of ​​Paris, from the fortress area of ​​Epinal, Metz and Verdun specified the tasks for the troops to develop the Roth plan. The Nazis wanted to prevent the enemy from creating a new line of defense and destroy his main forces. The armies on the left flank of the German front were targeting Orleans, Cherbourg, Brest, Lorient and Saint-Nazaire. Tank groups in the center of the front were to quickly overcome the Langr plateau and reach the river. Loire.

Without clear instructions, a command ready to stand to their deaths, the demoralized French troops quickly retreated, not having time to gain a foothold at any line. The French did not dare to use numerous large cities and industrial areas to give battle to the enemy. The Germans occupied numerous French cities without a fight. Kleist's tank group reached the river. Seine northwest of Troyes, and continued to move south to Lyon. Already on June 17, the Germans occupied Dijon. Guderian tanks continued a deep detour of the Maginot Line. The French garrisons in Alsace and Lorraine were cut off from the main forces. On June 15, Guderian’s divisions were occupied by Langre, on the 16th by Gre and 17th by Besancon. The Nazis reached the border of Switzerland, the French troops on the Maginot line fell into the "boiler".


Section "French Pie"


The French government fled to Bordeaux. Marshal Peten and his supporters demanded that negotiations begin on surrender, while all is not lost. They persuaded the vacillating members of the government and parliament. Premier Reynaud, yielding to the defeatists, still dragged on time, knowing that he would have no place in the new government. On June 16, he resigned. On the eve of Reynaud sent a telegram to Roosevelt and begged the United States to save France.

The British, seeing that France was over, conducted their own policies. London decided to no longer provide military material assistance to France and urgently evacuate the troops remaining there. British troops under the command of General Brooke were removed from submission to the French command. The British government was now more concerned with the question of the "French inheritance." France was the second colonial empire in the world. Vast territories were left without a “master”, since the French abandoned the idea of ​​evacuating the government in the colony. There was a threat of the seizure by the Nazis of part of the French possessions, especially in North Africa. The British were very afraid of such a prospect. The British colonial empire was already at stake. The fate of the French Navy was also connected with the question of the French colonies. fleet. The capture of the navy by the Nazis changed the situation in the seas and oceans. The British, in the event of a French armistice with the Germans, demanded the immediate transfer of French ships to English ports.

On June 16, Churchill proposed the formation of a French émigré government, which would formally lead the colonies, and the British would gain actual control over them. That is, Churchill, in fact, proposed making the French colonial empire the dominance of Britain. The plan was promoted in the form of an “indissoluble Franco-British alliance” with a single constitution, citizenship, and a common executive and legislative branch. The "merger of states" allowed London to use the resources of the French colonies and the French fleet. However, for the French it was obvious that with such a "merger" the British would dominate the empire. This offended the pride of the French. In addition, the creation of the Franco-British alliance meant the continuation of the war with Nazi Germany. Part of the large French capital has already estimated the profits from surrender, restoration and use of the capabilities of the “Hitler European Union”.

Thus, the French ruling elite chose to surrender to Germany. Churchill’s project, in fact, the surrender of the French empire to the British, was rejected. French capital was counting on beneficial cooperation with the Reich after the war. Raynaud resigned. The new government was led by Petain.


Abandoned French experimental self-propelled gun SAu 40


German soldier on horseback drives past abandoned French 220 mm TR mortar model 1916


The German non-commissioned officer poses at the captured STG removable tower on the Maginot line in Vieux Conde. The towers were used to cover the joints between the bunkers of the bunkers. The towers were armed with 8 mm Hotchkiss Modèle 1914 machine guns

Surrender of france


On June 17, 1940, the Peten government unanimously decided to ask the Germans for peace. The mediator was Spain. A proposal for a truce through the Vatican was sent to Italy. Peten also appealed on the radio with an appeal to the people and the army to "stop the fight." This appeal completely demoralized the army. Pétain, without waiting for an answer from the enemy, essentially ordered an end to the resistance. The Germans actively used Pétain's call to break down the still defending French troops. The chief of the French General Staff, General Dumenk, in order to somehow preserve the army, called on the troops to continue the defense until the signing of the armistice.

June 18, the French authorities ordered the army to leave without battle all the cities with a population of over 20 thousand people. The troops were forbidden to conduct in the cities, including their outskirts, military operations and to carry out any destruction. This led to the final disorganization of the French army.

Berlin reacted positively to the change of government in France and the proposal for a truce. However, Hitler was in no hurry to answer. First, the German army was in a hurry to use the actual fall of the French front to occupy the maximum possible territory. Secondly, it was necessary to resolve the issue of Italian claims. Mussolini wanted to get the southeastern part of France to the river. Rhone, including Toulon, Marseille, Avignon and Lyon. The Italians claimed Corsica, Tunisia, French Somalia, military bases in Algeria and Morocco. Italy also wanted to get part of the French fleet, aviation, heavy weapons, military stocks and vehicles. That is, Italy established its dominance in the Mediterranean basin. Such appetites of Mussolini annoyed Hitler, he did not want excessive strengthening of the ally. The Italian army did not deserve such a booty, having achieved virtually no success on the Alpine sector of the front. In addition, the Fuhrer did not want to anger the French with "excessive" requirements.

Hitler was forced to reckon with the real military-political situation. France suffered a crushing military defeat. I lost heart. However, the country still had enormous military material and human resources. “Excessive” requirements could strengthen the wing of the irreconcilable, cause resistance. France had rich overseas possessions, the ability to evacuate part of the government and parliament there, the remaining troops, reserves, and navy. Hitler knew about the danger of a protracted struggle, Germany was not ready for such a war. The Germans feared that the French fleet might go to the British. In his system there were 7 battleships, 18 cruisers, 1 aircraft carrier, 1 air transport, 48 destroyers, 71 submarines and other ships and vessels. Germany did not have a strong Navy to conduct an operation to capture the French fleet. This task was delayed for the future. While the German command wanted the French ships to remain in the ports of France, they did not go to England or the colonies.

Peten and his supporters understood that Hitler would only negotiate with them if they retain control of the colonies and navy. Therefore, the Peten government tried to prevent the creation of a government in exile. The defeatists did their best to prevent the departure of those politicians who could lead the government in exile.

Meanwhile, the German army continued the offensive with the aim of occupying the most important areas of France. On June 18, the mobile units of the 4th Army occupied Cherbourg in Normandy; on June 19, Rennes in Brittany. The troops of the 10th French army in the north-west of the country stopped resistance. On June 20, the Germans captured the French naval base in Brest. On the coast of the Atlantic Ocean, the Nazis captured St. Nazaire, Nantes, and La Rochelle on June 22-23. Another German group advanced south, forcing the Loire between Orleans and Nevers.

On the western border of France, the army group "Ts" went on the offensive: the 1st and 7th armies. Guderian’s tank group, which launched an attack on Epinal and Belfort, was transferred to Army Group Ts. The French troops, who had left the Maginot line on the orders of Weygand, the 2nd Army Group (3rd, 5th and 8th Armies), were surrounded. On June 22, General Conde, commander of the 2nd Army Group, ordered surrender. 500 thousandth French group folded weapon. Only individual garrisons on the Maginot Line and units in the Vosges continued to resist. On June 20, the Italian army attempted to break through French defense in the Alps. However, the French Alpine army repelled the attack.


A column of French prisoners follows the street of the town


A column of French prisoners of war follows to the gathering place

Compiegne


On June 20, 1940, the Germans invited the French delegation to come to Tours. On the same day, the French delegation, consisting of the commander of the army group, General Hüntziger, the former French ambassador to Poland Noel, the chief of staff of the Navy, Rear Admiral Le Luc, the chief of staff of the Air Force, General Bergeret, and the former military attache in Rome, General Parisot, arrived in Tours. The next day, the delegation was taken to the Retond station in Compiegne Forest. Here, 22 years ago, on November 11, 1918, Marshal Foch dictated the terms of the armistice to the Second Reich. Hitler ordered the seizure of the historic carriage from the museum. To humiliate the French, he was put in the same place as in 1918.

The whole top of the Third Reich, led by Hitler, arrived at the ceremony. In fact, it was a surrender, not a peace agreement, as Peten had hoped. The chairman of the negotiations, Keitel announced the terms of the ceasefire, and stressed that they cannot be changed. The French were invited to sign an agreement. Huntziger tried to soften the conditions, but received a cold refusal. On only one question, Keitel expressed understanding. This is the need to preserve the French army in the face of the threat of strengthening communists. On June 22, 18 hours 32 minutes, Hüntziger signed an armistice agreement on behalf of France. On the German side, Keitel signed the document.


Compiegne wagon taken out of the museum through a gap in the wall


Representatives of France head to Marshal Foch's wagon for armistice negotiations with German representatives


Adolf Hitler enters a carriage in the Compiegne Forest before concluding a truce

France ceased hostilities. The French armed forces were subject to demobilization and disarmament. The Peten regime was allowed to have an army to maintain order. The country was divided into three parts. Alsace and Lorraine were part of the Reich. Of the rest of France, the Nazis occupied a little more than half: the northern, most industrialized areas, and the western, Atlantic coast. The French capital also remained under the Nazis. In the occupation zone, power passed to the German command. All military facilities, industry, communications and transport, stocks of raw materials, etc. were transferred to the Germans in good condition. As a result, Reich controlled 65% of the population of France, most of its industrial and agricultural potential.

About 40% of the country (Southern France) remained under the control of the Petain government. Armament and military property was concentrated in warehouses and was under the control of German and Italian authorities. The Germans could get weapons and ammunition for the needs of the Wehrmacht. The fleet remained in ports; they planned to disarm it under German control. The French authorities incurred the costs of maintaining the occupying forces. Also, the French had to supply industrial and agricultural products on the terms dictated to them. Peten and Laval headed for the creation of a fascist state. On July 10-11, 1940, Pétain concentrated in his hands the executive, legislative, and judicial powers, and received dictatorial powers. Pétain and his entourage hoped to become Hitler's junior partner in a “new order” in Europe.

On June 23, 1940, the French delegation on German planes was taken to Rome. On June 24, the Franco-Italian Armistice Agreement was signed. On June 25, hostilities in France were officially discontinued. Italy, under pressure from Germany, had to abandon most of its demands. Italy transferred a small territory on the border. France also created a 50-kilometer demilitarized zone on the border with Italy, disarmed a number of ports and bases in France and the colonies.


Occupation Zone in France

In fact, the Nazis used the same methods that the European colonialists (British, Belgians, French, etc.) used in their colonies. We selected the top, ready for cooperation, and acted through it. French politicians, officials, industrialists and bankers were fully satisfied with their position (they maintained their position and capital, could increase them). Colonies where there were no German soldiers obeyed. A strong fleet surrendered without a fight. The occupation regime was initially quite mild. The German generals wanted to look "cultural", demanded not to let the SS, the Gestapo and other punitive organs into France. French society easily adopted a new life. Nobody thought of any continuation of the struggle; the rebellious ones were more likely an exception to the rule. General De Gaulle created the Free France committee. But he had very few fighters: about a regiment of tens of millions. Therefore, he had to submit to the British. And in the homeland of De Gaulle was called a traitor who violated the oath. As a result, there was practically no resistance movement at that time in France. No opposition to traitors and defeatists.

This was the triumph of Hitler and the Third Reich. Holland, Belgium and France were torn apart in six weeks! France lost 84 thousand people killed, 1,5 million people were captured. Wehrmacht losses: 27 thousand dead, over 18 thousand missing, 111 thousand wounded.


Ceremonial march of German troops in Compiegne during armistice negotiations


Ceremonial passage of the gunners of the German 7th Panzer Division along the promenade of Louis XVII along the Garonne River in Bordeaux
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  1. Comrade
    Comrade 22 June 2020 05: 46 New
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    Very interesting, well-written and well-illustrated article, thanks!
  2. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 22 June 2020 05: 48 New
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    That's what Keitel was surprised when he signed the act of surrender at 45, that France defeated them too! what
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 05: 59 New
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      Pétain concentrated in his hands the executive, legislative and judicial powers, and received dictatorial powers. Peten and his entourage hoped to become Hitler's junior partner in the “new order” in Europe
      II, traitor. And General De Gaulle did not name him differently, but at the end of his life he recognized that Pétain had saved France. There is always a choice in history, between life and honor. request We chose honor and by winning, we won life too. "The regiment de Gaulle saved the honor of France" - only a beautiful phrase. For De Gaulle's honor, with all due respect to him, is not the honor of France. request
      1. knn54
        knn54 22 June 2020 07: 48 New
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        Just three months later (October 1940), the Abwehr stopped accepting freelance informants in France, informers already numbered 32.
        In 1943, by analogy with the SS, a "militia" was created. In a year, 45000 "militants" were recruited. The French "Legion" (Eastern Front); SS division "Charlemagne" (the last, without exaggeration, the defenders of Reistag) -10000 in total, etc., etc.
        For the Fuhrer, more French fought than against him.
        1. lucul
          lucul 22 June 2020 10: 22 New
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          For the Fuhrer, more French fought than against him.

          And there is .
          Thus, the French ruling elite chose to surrender to Germany. Churchill’s project, in fact, the surrender of the French empire to the British, was rejected. French capital was counting on beneficial cooperation with the Reich after the war.

          In fact, the French hated the Anglo-Saxons more than the Germans. And in alliance with the Germans had the opportunity to destroy the Anglo-Saxons.
          The next day, the delegation was delivered to the Retond station in Compiegne Forest. Here, 22 years ago, on November 11, 1918, Marshal Foch dictated the terms of the armistice to the Second Reich. Hitler ordered the historic carriage to be removed from the museum. To humiliate the French, he was put in the same place as in 1918.

          Now watch your hands - Hitler used these 22 years (actually since 1933) to the maximum, for the development of the country, primarily in the military plan. And the French, for 22 years, were just getting fat, stuffing the pockets of bankers. Therefore, even having a bonus, such incomparably winning starting conditions - still lost.
          The logical result of doing nothing ....
          1. Kronos
            Kronos 22 June 2020 14: 25 New
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            By 1939, the Nazi economy began to crack military spending and the need to give loans posed a threat to the Germans budget
    2. +5
      +5 22 June 2020 15: 29 New
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      In general, it seems like the first (in modern history) said Lord Cornwallis, looking at Washington when he surrendered to the French troops .... he wandered for a long time that "this rabble" would not surrender.
    3. antivirus
      antivirus 22 June 2020 19: 36 New
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      everything was weighed by the Germans, achieved a lot - but the French colonies did not fight against Britain, bargain. well done Britons.
      Was the balance of power already dependent on the United States?
    4. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 10 August 2020 21: 23 New
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      They didn’t even think of inviting psheks there - Keitel’s grandfather would have had enough kondraty right at the negotiating table.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 05: 48 New
    +7
    Hitler ordered the historic carriage to be removed from the museum. To humiliate the French, he was put in the same place as in 1918.
    As far as I remember, the car was burned after the "reset".
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 22 June 2020 15: 51 New
      +2
      No, he was taken to Germany, where he burned down at the end of the war during the bombing of the Allied aircraft.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 June 2020 16: 46 New
        -1
        in April 1945, by order of Hitler, burned by SS soldiers
        .
        Quote: Ryazanets87
        No, he was taken to Germany, where he burned down at the end of the war during the bombing of the Allied aircraft.
  4. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 22 June 2020 06: 08 New
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    In France, there is no real summer, no moral principles. If we ignore these shortcomings, France is a beautiful country. It is usually run by women with reduced social responsibility. ” - Mark Twain
  5. Olgovich
    Olgovich 22 June 2020 06: 12 New
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    .
    The French did not dare to use numerous large cities and industrial areas to give battle to the enemy.

    Talking about a lot of things: the French, thus, clearly showed that the preservation of life is higher than honor, homeland and independence
    the French abandoned the idea of ​​evacuating the government in the colony.

    Another confirmation of this.
    The "merger of states" allowed London to use the resources of the French colonies and the French fleet. However, for the French it was obvious that with such a "merger" the British would dominate the empire. This offended the pride of the French.

    What, in, "pride" after what happened?

    This is a rejected opportunity to continue the resistance to the Nazis: the enormous non-European Frvnia, organized by the legitimate authorities in the war, is a serious opponent. But...
    The next day, the delegation was delivered to the Retond station in Compiegne Forest. Here, 22 years ago, on November 11, 1918, Marshal Foch dictated the terms of the armistice to the Second Reich. Hitler ordered the historic carriage to be removed from the museum. To humiliate the French, he was put in the same place as in 1918.


    After all, Giler spoke about this in advance, was it really impossible to destroy this car? No, they drank a cup of shame to the bottom. Masochists ...
    Nobody thought of any continuation of the struggle; the rebellious ones were more likely an exception to the rule. General De Gaulle created the Free France committee. But he had very few fighters: about a regiment of tens of millions.


    That is why France did not have to be included in the victorious powers.
    1. Sugar Honeyovich
      Sugar Honeyovich 22 June 2020 16: 35 New
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      Some people here asserted that "France is also the WINNER in WWII", and in comparison with the USSR it "wins".
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 23 June 2020 07: 40 New
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        Quote: Sahar Medovich
        Some who here argued that "France is also the WINNER in WWII", and in comparison with the USSR, she "wins"


        He argued correctly.

        Do you want to refute? France is not a victory She is not the winner?

        Already much larger than others.
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 23 June 2020 08: 22 New
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          He argued correctly.

          For the losing side, an excellent result, and so France and England lost much more from WWII than they gained.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 23 June 2020 09: 07 New
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            Quote: strannik1985
            Great result for the losing side

            for winning sides: people are saved, the country is saved, moreover, by OTHERS.

            Excellent result!
            Quote: strannik1985
            so France and England lost much more from WWII than they gained.

            Nothing is lost: everything. what went, went without WWII
            1. strannik1985
              strannik1985 23 June 2020 09: 46 New
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              Excellent result

              They organized it with completely different goals.
              Lost nothing

              England and France lost all their colonies as a result of WWII.
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 23 June 2020 10: 30 New
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                Quote: strannik1985
                They organized it with completely different goals.

                they did not organize
                Quote: strannik1985
                England and France lost all their colonies as a result of WWII.

                no-cm. 1946-EVERYTHING in place.

                it was a legitimate process — that with the WWII, that without- it would be same.
                1. strannik1985
                  strannik1985 23 June 2020 10: 47 New
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                  they did not organize

                  France is one of the guarantor countries of the Versailles Accords, they also waved the Munich agreement and betrayed Poland.
                  1946-EVERYTHING in place.

                  Why not 1945 or 1947? wink
                  Suez crisis - the allies (France, England, Israel) defeat Egypt on the battlefield, but lose the positions of the USA and the USSR, Algeria - likewise, Indochina - the French do not independently spend military expenses, losing to the Vietnamese.
                  The colonial era ended with the end of WWII.
                  Even the Falkland Conflict is an echo of WWII wink
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 23 June 2020 13: 37 New
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                    Quote: strannik1985
                    France is one of the guarantor countries of the Versailles Accords, they also waved the Munich agreement and betrayed Poland.

                    belay you declared .... unfulfilled goals. And this ... what?
                    Quote: strannik1985
                    Suez crisis - the allies (France, England, Israel) defeat Egypt on the battlefield, but lose the positions of the USA and the USSR, Algeria - likewise, Indochina - the French do not independently spend military expenses, losing to the Vietnamese.
                    The colonial era ended with the end of WWII.
                    Even the Falkland conflict - echoes WWII

                    then this is an echo of original sin, it all began with him yes

                    Who said that the colonies would have stayed longer without WWII?

                    their disappearance is inevitable, as the collapse of the Bolsheviks
                    1. strannik1985
                      strannik1985 23 June 2020 13: 43 New
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                      And this ... what about?

                      About logic, once fed a dragon
                      - it means it was necessary.
                      Who said that the colonies would have stayed longer without WWII?

                      And who would free them? There are no free markets and the dollar as a world currency - the metropolis rotates the colonies as they want, in fact, as it was before WWII.
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 23 June 2020 15: 54 New
                        +1
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        About logic, once fed a dragon

                        no connection and logic between this ::
                        They organized it with completely different goals.
                        and this
                        France is one of the guarantor countries of the Versailles Accords, they also waved the Munich agreement and betrayed Poland.
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        And who would free them?

                        and who freed them? Those would be released.

                        Maybe a little later
                      2. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 23 June 2020 17: 10 New
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                        no connection and logic between this

                        Oh yes, is the policy of appeasing a country-aggressor the norm? laughing Can you give similar examples?
                        and who freed them?

                        The shout of a big brother, as in the war of 1956-1957, is one of the rare moments when the opinion of the USSR and the USA coincided good
                      3. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 24 June 2020 06: 58 New
                        +1
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Oh yes, is the policy of appeasing a country-aggressor the norm?

                        You can find a logical connection between your statements about "other goals of the war" and "the guarantee of Versailles"?
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        The shout of a big brother, as in the war of 1956-1957, is one of the rare moments when the opinion of the USSR and the USA coincided

                        And what does it ... WWII?
                        Decolonization is an inevitable event anyway
                      4. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 24 June 2020 07: 40 New
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                        You connection logic

                        Of course, the French suddenly, suddenly forgot the experience of the WWII and with emotion look at the restoration of the Reich, not only the Second, but the Third laughing I do not believe in the collective insanity of three (USA, France, England) request
                        And what does it ... WWII?

                        Despite the fact that the former colonialists are forced to build politics with an eye on the United States, they are still strong and can suppress national liberation movements in their colonies (Egypt, Algeria, Malaysia, a lot of countries around the world), but this is not enough, we have to leave, reduce aircraft budgets with all that it implies.
                      5. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 24 June 2020 13: 40 New
                        +1
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Of course, the French suddenly, suddenly forgot the experience of WWI and with emotion look at the restoration of the Reich, not just the Second, but the Third. I do not believe the collective insanity of three (USA, France, England)

                        so where are your stated goals? request
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        they are still strong

                        The right clause is still strong, but sooner or later, to landfill. yes
                      6. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 24 June 2020 20: 02 New
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                        so where are your stated goals?

                        In logic - the meaning of war - the world is better than the pre-war. I doubt that the French were counting on 44 days of active resistance.
                        Right disclaimer

                        Wrong, loss of colonies - budget deficit - renunciation of interests - reduction of armed forces.
                      7. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 25 June 2020 07: 19 New
                        +1
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        In logic - the meaning of war - the world is better than the pre-war.

                        You declared other goals of the war, you have not shown.

                        So, they were NOT there, which was announced to you.
                        Quote: strannik1985
                        Incorrect

                        correct, because the natural course of development — it is impossible to reverse — it is an objective process.
                      8. strannik1985
                        strannik1985 25 June 2020 08: 30 New
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                        Other war objectives declared by you

                        Those. Are you for general insanity in three countries? laughing
                        Oh yes, you have a universal answer - does the objective process require no explanation? good
                        correct, because the natural course of development

                        Natural than? laughing
                        Throwing plop Egypt, what Nasser will do without support from Washington?
                        Yes, you are simply the king of logic, in general, do not bother with arguments good
  • Sugar Honeyovich
    Sugar Honeyovich 23 June 2020 15: 13 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    Already much larger than others.

    Yeah, and the others are much bigger than France. Finland, for example, fought on two fronts. True, she lost the land ... Or Bulgaria, which fell into a state of war with England, Germany and the USSR at once. But Turkey - in general ... And the Germans themselves, according to them, are quite happy with the result of that war. Maybe there were no losers at all, huh? wink lol
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 23 June 2020 15: 56 New
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      Quote: Sahar Medovich
      Yeah and others much bigger than france

      not yeah, examples, chatterbox
      1. Sugar Honeyovich
        Sugar Honeyovich 23 June 2020 18: 25 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        give examples

        Are you out of your eyes? Or out of reason?
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 24 June 2020 07: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Sahar Medovich
          Quote: Olgovich
          give examples

          You not by to the eyes? Or not by the mind?

          ....?! belay request

          by the eyes: have you already filled it in (judging by the "questions")?
  • Kwas
    Kwas 15 August 2020 13: 04 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    That is why France did not have to be included in the victorious powers.

    I agree. Stalin did this "for political reasons" in order to have a more or less loyal power in the west.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 22 June 2020 06: 16 New
    +7
    The losses of the Germans are interesting, 18 thousand were missing. Where did they get lost in France?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 22 June 2020 06: 37 New
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      Quote: Free Wind
      18 thousand were missing

      They were sheltered by girls with low social responsibility .... tongue
    2. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 22 June 2020 06: 39 New
      +4
      Part is visible in the wine cellars))) and the rest .. well, who knows, it’s gone and gone ...
    3. strannik1985
      strannik1985 23 June 2020 08: 26 New
      0
      They simply could not identify the body, and the "suicide bomber" was lost. It happens.
  • Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 22 June 2020 06: 56 New
    +5
    Shameful. But in an extreme case, the French Government could be evacuated to its colonies in North Africa and from there continue the fight against Hitler. Moreover, the French fleet remained intact, and in alliance with the British fleet, Hitler would not even have dreamed of landing in North Africa if he did not dare even land in England in real history. And here it would be necessary to cross not the English Channel 30 km wide, but the whole Mediterranean Sea.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 22 June 2020 07: 11 New
    +4
    With a carriage - a classic example of the loops that history commits.
    And then - a peaceful life, displayed, for example, in Casablanca.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 22 June 2020 10: 40 New
    +8
    Munich contract with Hitler cost dearly to France.
    1. AclfgKt8
      AclfgKt8 22 June 2020 16: 17 New
      +3
      Even more expensive than Germany, this conspiracy cost
  • Etherion
    Etherion 22 June 2020 11: 21 New
    +2
    "The column of French prisoners of war is going to the place of gathering" - are there blacks, including in the column?
    1. iouris
      iouris 22 June 2020 12: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Etherion
      there are blacks

      Did he humiliate African Americans too?
      1. fuxila
        fuxila 22 June 2020 14: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: iouris
        Did he humiliate African Americans too?

        If "he" is Hitler, then he humiliated the Afro-French, but the African-Americans have already humiliated him ... laughing
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 22 June 2020 23: 43 New
      +3
      Michael, "negros" -soldiers in the French army were recruited for service in the colonial parts of France. And the fate of these "blacks" is not enviable - they were shot almost immediately on the roadside. VO has a series of articles about the colonial units of the French army.
  • Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
    Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 June 2020 13: 01 New
    +3
    Excellent article, thanks!
  • +5
    +5 22 June 2020 15: 32 New
    +2
    And by 1945, the French (although the ethnic Germans of Alsace and Lorraine entered here) who fought for Hitler, died more than those who fought against ...
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 22 June 2020 15: 54 New
      +4
      Do not share the numbers? And now, for example, 1297 French troops killed in the British attack on Mers-el-Kebir in July 1940, did they fight for Hitler?
      1. +5
        +5 22 June 2020 16: 05 New
        -1
        Yandex to help ....
        1297 people in this balance will not change anything .... although you write as if they should be pitied ...
        1. Ryazan87
          Ryazan87 22 June 2020 16: 47 New
          +5
          Simply put, you don’t have any numbers, only dots. Actually, I didn’t even doubt it.
          But we call Yandex omnipotent, not a question:
          1. Total losses for the 1940 campaign (Gelb, Roth, Norway, the Alps) - 121 thousand killed (against the Germans) + about 1940 thousand died in German captivity of 45-70. Total: 190 thousand.
          2-1940
          army of the liberation of France + army of the Battle of France (de Gaulle) - 60 thousand killed + Resistance - about 8 thousand. Those. 68 thousand, well, let's round down - 65.
          3. 1941-45 years
          Alsatians and Lorraine as part of the Wehrmacht - 42 thousand killed + pro-German volunteers (638th Wehrmacht regiment, further SS formations) - no more than 10-12 thousand killed.
          4. Civilians (all reasons):
          412 thousand killed. Well, some of them were executed by Germans (29 thousand were executed as hostages) + died in concentration camps, even without taking into account the Jews.
          5. Losses of the Vichy in Syria, Lebanon, Africa and Indochina - a debatable issue, but within 50 thousand.
          However, you can take Urlanis, the Soviet classics:
          The losses of the French army from September 1, 1939 to June 22, 1940 - 92 thousand killed (of which, as the Soviet encyclopedia "History of the Second World War" specifies, 10 thousand fell on the period from May 22 to June 1940, 84).
          Further - for the period 1940-1945:
          Loss of Resistance - 20 thousand.
          Losses of Alsatians mobilized into the German army (this is exactly what Urlanis indicated) - 40 thousand.
          Losses of the French army (on the side of the allies) - 58 thousand.
          Source: Urlanis B. Ts. Wars and the population of Europe. Human casualties in the wars of the sixteenth to twentieth centuries (historical and statistical research). M., 1960.S. 234 (table).


          Losses of Vichy and paramilitary formations are not given to them, but they are not particularly large.
          To these - purely military losses - the figures of hostages shot in France have not been added, the statistics of which are well known - 29 thousand people during the entire occupation.
          R.S. so "I congratulate you, citizen, you lied!" (from)
          1. sleeve
            sleeve 23 June 2020 06: 02 New
            +1
            Great addition. Thank.
        2. Kwas
          Kwas 15 August 2020 13: 07 New
          0
          Why not regret it? Victims of a sudden and insidious attack.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 23 June 2020 06: 01 New
    +1
    Great digest. Briefly understood. Partly detailed. Thank.
  • Kwas
    Kwas 15 August 2020 13: 20 New
    0
    Do not think that I sympathize with Hitler, but if he had less ambition and more flexibility, he could very well really drag France to his side. After some peculiarities of the evacuation of the British from Belgium and the events in Mers-el-Kebir, the French were not just angry at the British, but very angry. All that was needed was to let France "save face" at least a little. For example, to announce a plebiscite in Alsace and Lorraine, on the topic "where you want", with a predetermined result. The French would love that. And not to completely disband the army, to minimize the occupation, etc. It is good that they did not do all this!
  • klara
    klara 21 September 2020 18: 40 New
    -1
    Great work - an article, I mean. Classic! One thing is not clear: WHY was France among the winning countries after 45? Because de Gaulle sat quietly in London, drinking ale and broadcasting on the radio? Or because the only Resistance (Resistance) was organized by the communists? And now they, who rode their country, surrendered shamefully to the Germans, are teaching us how to live.