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Amendment of the Russian language: arguments and facts

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Ask me how the army website is related to the Russian language amendment, and I will answer with the words of Stalin. The most important thing for an officer is to know and understand the Russian language: the outcome of the battle depends on his knowledge, how you give the order and how the soldiers understand it.


They say that few people read the Constitution of 1993 in the Russian Federation, they say that very few people have carefully studied the current amendments.

But recently on TV I heard arguments in favor of the amendment about the Russian language and decided to read it.

What argument did I hear on TV in defense of the amendment?

"The Russian language and even Russian literature is a world heritage."

You can’t argue with that. There was great Russian literature. It is read in the world, many contemporary authors are published abroad, and this is good, however, the last world-famous Russian writer, Eduard Limonov, has gone into a different world, but we have a great heritage.

Russian was actually a world language; according to the UN Charter, it is in the top five world languages ​​now. There was the USSR, which provided this with all its might, having a huge number of allies around the world, having priority in many areas of science and technology, which naturally stimulated interest in the Russian language. Now there is neither this state, nor its military and economic power, nor world scientific achievements and breakthrough technologies, but it was so, one cannot argue with that either.

"The Russian language is the property of other nations."

And again the argument from stories, not from today. Of course, there are the words of another great Russian poet, V.V. Mayakovsky:

... I would learn Russian only because Lenin spoke to them.

The Russian language became especially attractive to other peoples when the light of freedom, which indicates how to free oneself from colonialism and exploitation, was shined from Soviet Russia.

And when the country after 1991 entered the capitalist system as a raw materials appendage (and sits there to this day), then interest in the Russian language plummeted, the world of the Russian language cringes constantly.

But the key argument for the amendment was also somewhat dumbfounded. It was as if I had been returned during the time of perestroika, and I hear and read again and again that Russian literature was written by non-Russians. How is it, the Normans wrote it to us in runes?

“Non-Russian” writers wrote Russian literature, they created the Russian modern language, according to the author of the arguments. This is Pushkin, Derzhavin, Lermontov, Dahl - and this speaks in favor of the fact that ... the amendment is very necessary!

Without contesting the second, I object to the first.

Pushkin, according to the author of the arguments, it turns out that he is arap, he directly came directly from Abyssinia.

“The sun of our poetry”, “our everything”, part-time founder of the modern Russian language, of course, was the great-grandson of the arap of Peter the Great, but he himself was Russian.

Yes, I knew the French language from childhood, like all wealthy nobles, but was Russian from its very roots, wanted to escape to fight the French!

The poet was raised in a Russian noble family, fed by the Russian nanny Arina Rodionovna far from the Ethiopian desert.

But then, it turns out, Derzhavin is a Tatar, so he jumped straight from the Crimea, well, let's get an ode to write with a hexameter:

What are you starting a war song for?
Flute like, cute snigir?
With whom do we go to war with Hyena?
Who is our leader now? Who is the hero?
Strong where, brave, quick Suvorov?
The thunder of the North lies in the coffin.

The ancestors of Gabriel Romanovich Derzhavin were Tatars, but when he wrote his works, he was an absolute Russian.

Although, as has been repeatedly indicated in the scientific literature, the feudal estate was formed on local soil, with the involvement of foreign elements, this element could never be decisive.

It is known that the nobles invented the founders of surnames to add kindness, often raising their family tree to foreigners. What is already in the nineteenth century. caused laughter:

... says
That letter: "Tatar
Obolt Obolduyev
Good sukontsa is given,
At the price of two rubles:
Wolves and foxes
He entertained the empress
On the day of the royal name day
Let the wild bear down
With his and Oboldueva
He ripped off the bear ...

So, Ivan IV bred himself from Augustus, and the first Romanovs from the Romans - Roma!

So the “Arap of Peter the Great”, a slave boy, was presented to Peter, and only on Russian soil he was brought up, and he could become anshen-general, military godson of the “Russian Mars” Sasha Suvorov. But it was the Russian soil that created the conditions and opportunities for foreigners to prove themselves, whether it be Tatar, Arap, “German French” or “German Scot,” as they wrote in the XNUMXth century.

Then M. Yu. Lermontov also got it. More correctly, his pedigree was involved as a justification. It is difficult to argue with the author of the arguments for the amendments: the Scotsman is undoubtedly a Scotsman!

As the poet himself wrote:

And there is no lie here, as in the fact that we are Varangians.

And how he, the “Scotsman”, wrote in the same poem:

Moscow, Moscow! .. I love you as a son,
Like a Russian, it’s strong, fiery and gentle!
I love the sacred brilliance of your gray hair
And this Kremlin is serrated, serene.

And, of course, the “Dane” Vladimir Dal, who was born in Lugansk. As you know, Lugansk is the birthplace of the Danes.

The author of the arguments for the constitutional article on the Russian language may not be aware that there is a huge difference in origin and essence. You can be a native Danish, but essentially Russian, and vice versa, native Russian and non-Russian in essence. The same M. Yu. Lermontov wrote about his hero Grushnitsky that he possessed some kind of non-Russian courage. And to whom, if not the outgoing officer Lermontov, to understand this.

Summing up, I will say that a very weak argument is given. The arguments of "the time of Ochakov and the conquest of Crimea" did not take into account fatal errors in the language of the last years of the USSR and errors of national policy in the Russian Federation.

Based on this argument, it can be argued that there is Russian literature and there are writers who write in Russian, but they do not belong to Russian literature.

Legal documents should be distinguished by extreme clarity and clarity, in legal documents, for example, in contrast to the literary language, the repetition of words is allowed if it is required for clarity and understanding of this legal document.

The message of argumentation on TV is understandable, but not scientifically substantiated. Other ethnic groups can take part in the formation of the ethnos, linguistic borrowings constantly occur, but national literature and language cannot be created by foreigners, even the authors of the period of the collapse of the Roman Empire, despite their origin, were in most cases brought up within the Roman state and language.

The development of the Russian ethnos, and even more so the language, is an original process, however, as with many other peoples of Russia. But the people who created the Russian state and civilization are unique and comparable only with similar world civilizations:
... forever rallied great Russia.

And this fact is scientific.

Here the words of the great master of the Russian word I. S. Turgenev, which I remember from school, come to mind, they sound like a prayer:

In the days of doubt, in the days of painful thoughts about the fate of my homeland, you are my one support and support, oh great, powerful, truthful and free Russian language! Do not be you - how not to fall into despair at the sight of everything that happens at home? But one cannot believe that such a language should not be given to a great people!

And the argument that Pushkin, Lermontov, Derzhavin and Dahl are the “non-Russian” creators of the modern Russian language and literature is not only weak, unscientific, but also extremely incorrect for a chaotic and legally fuzzy amendment, all the more so in it the mysterious state-forming people are not named.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 20 June 2020 15: 11 New
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    Eduard, Eduard ... all the documents and laws we have are "triplets" ... You look what you did with education ...
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 20 June 2020 15: 15 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      all the documents and laws we have are "triplets" ...

      Holy simplicity - they are excellent students. They perform their tasks perfectly well, you just need to understand that their true tasks are different and different from those voiced. hi
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 20 June 2020 17: 14 New
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: parusnik
        all the documents and laws we have are "triplets" ...

        Holy simplicity - they are excellent students. They perform their tasks perfectly well, you just need to understand that their true tasks are different and different from those voiced. hi

        In my opinion, it’s clear to everyone that their task is as simple as a carrot .. to make the majority of the population an uneducated herd that is easy to manipulate .. Gref talks about this without hesitation.
        And they successfully cope with this task. Thus, depriving for many years the development opportunities of Russia.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 20 June 2020 20: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          ... make the majority of the population an uneducated herd that is easy to manipulate.

          1989 year. Moscow, the entire population with a good Soviet education! And the whole country at the screens ... wassat wassat As you definitely said - they made the population an uneducated herd, which they manipulated to the fullest, then the herd began to grow wiser ... The herd grew wiser so much that it began to express displeasure !!!! And when it was stupid, this herd was silent in a rag ...

          1. Svarog
            Svarog 20 June 2020 22: 41 New
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            1989 year. Moscow, the entire population with a good Soviet education! And the whole country is at the screens ... wassat wassat As you definitely said - they made the population an uneducated herd, which they manipulated in full, then the herd began to grow wiser ..

            In difficult times, when uncertainty in life and when everything changes overnight, the old way of life collapses, and how to live in a new way is not clear, even among educated people, there may be a need for a "miracle" .. Although I do not justify them, I remember very well performances of these clowns, but in my family and in my friends, apart from sarcasm, these tricks did not cause anything. I think that such stressful psychological manifestations cannot be an indicator of education, it’s rather from the sphere of psychology .. But the fact that modern children read an order of magnitude less, that they don’t know the story and, in general, are less educated is a fact, I think even you will not argue with this. Of course, we can say that in those days, there was enough failure. The only problem is that in those days, there was a choice, but now it is not. Now the choice is for those who have money and who do not have it, in the near future they will receive education remotely. What will significantly reduce \ eliminates the percentage of gifted children, not allowing their talent to be revealed, which ultimately will affect our science, medicine .. in general, in all areas of life. This is already happening, you can compare how many high-profile discoveries and real breakthroughs were in the USSR now.
            1. Taga
              Taga 21 June 2020 23: 56 New
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              Not only may the need for a “miracle” arise, but some citizens may have faith in the supernatural. What violent colors bloomed all sorts of sects in those years ...
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 21 June 2020 15: 59 New
          +3
          Thus, depriving for many years the opportunities for the development of Russia.
          They successfully cope with the murder of Russia, Svarog. And they can do it if we don’t wake up.
      2. Civil
        Civil 21 June 2020 09: 22 New
        -3
        And it started .... noodles through the pipes lol
    2. Far B
      Far B 20 June 2020 16: 22 New
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      Yes, as if not disputing the general meaning, the article is also a C grade. I judge as a journal with a quarter century of experience. Firstly, there are not five, but six international languages ​​at the UN: English, French, Spanish, Russian, Arabic, Chinese. Secondly,
      in the progeny of Gavril Romanovich Derzhavin
      I suppose, after all, in the ancestors? No, well, seriously, as an editor, I would return the article to the author for revision. Damp. Very damp.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 20 June 2020 16: 40 New
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        Quote: Far In
        Yes, as if not disputing the general meaning, the article is also a C grade

        And where did the author dig up these “arguments”? I have never heard until I read in this article.
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 21 June 2020 16: 02 New
        +5
        magazine with quarter century experience

        But you are not even a threesome.
        The author made a reservation to the semantic mistake.
    3. snake
      snake 20 June 2020 16: 28 New
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      In order for the Russian language to be in demand, respected and desirable to study, you need to produce (forgive me, Russian language) suitable content. Something like: movies, books, songs, etc. We need a strong economy, culture and art. On the ISS, the main language of communication is Russian (although the official language is English). If worthy, honest, competent people were at the head of Roscosmos in Russia, then this alone would be enough to keep the Russian language for centuries.
      But nothing will burn out with the Mikhalkovs, Rogozins, Medinsky and other Putin leaders. With these managers, it’s not that language, people would be saved ...
      In the meantime, Bezrukov for $ 60000 will tell us heartily about the Russian language on the eve of the vote ...
      1. Clear
        Clear 20 June 2020 17: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: serpent
        But nothing will burn out with the Mikhalkovs, Rogozins, Medinsky and other Putin leaders.

        Well, goodies ...
        And, you can announce the list of figures with whom everything will burn out? (to a hair dryer)
        1. snake
          snake 20 June 2020 23: 18 New
          +8
          Quote: Clear
          And, you can announce the list of figures with whom everything will burn out? (to a hair dryer)

          You can: Golovan Jack, Cat Manul, Salty, Clear.
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              1. Clear
                Clear 21 June 2020 13: 46 New
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                Quote: serpent
                Self-irony is always commendable.

                It’s good that the positive went
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      2. depressant
        depressant 20 June 2020 20: 30 New
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        You say - films ... I watch American, European and Asian films to understand not only how our ill-wishers live, but also what their idea of ​​us is. It's no secret that in their films of the last decade, the Russian astronaut looks, to put it mildly, inadequate. But the Chinese? The best foreign "friends" of our president, to whom he has for some time surrendered Siberia in one form or another, would seem to be grateful. No matter how! In the film "Wandering Earth" the Russian astronaut is even worse represented than in Western films - a complete idiot against the backdrop of brilliant and utterly brave Chinese ...
        And this despite the fact that every Chinese schoolchild knows about the Soviet cosmonauts Volkov, Patsaev and Dobrovolsky who died on Soyuz-11, admires them and is ready to tell a long legend about their heroism. Maybe because, not being able to really master the path that we were following earlier, in the 90s we turned to where the authorities indicated, but, unlike the Chinese, we could not master this path either. One could argue that the Chinese are also going where the authorities are pointing. Only there is a difference. The Chinese are following the path of a once-chosen new ideology, in the right dose and very skillfully diluting it with the poison of a hostile worldview to a state of economic medicine. And we continue to wander in the ideological desert, we have lost our way for a long time.
        1. snake
          snake 20 June 2020 23: 10 New
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          Quote: depressant
          You say movies ...

          I say movies. Our films are Russian. We need to make good Russian films. With a strong script, an interesting plot and high-quality game of actors. Do not cut the loot and with the soul to take off. What does the Chinese movie have to do with it? It's not clear.
          Quote: depressant
          And this despite the fact that about the Soviet cosmonauts Volkov, Patsaev and Dobrovolsky, who died on Soyuz-11, every chinese student knows, admires them and is ready to tell a long legend about their heroism.

          Where does this information come from?
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 21 June 2020 16: 07 New
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        If worthy, honest, competent people were at the head of Roscosmos in Russia, then this alone would be enough to keep the Russian language for centuries.

        No, it's all particular. It should be like this:
        If worthy, honest, competent people were at the head of Russia, then this alone would be enough to keep the Russian language for centuries.
        1. snake
          snake 21 June 2020 17: 24 New
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          Quote: NordUral
          It is necessary so:
          If at the head of Russia

          We must do something, but let’s be realistic - for starters, it would have come in handy “at the head of Roscosmos” ...
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 21 June 2020 18: 16 New
            -3
            I agree if the beginning will have a logical and effective conclusion.
          2. Taga
            Taga 21 June 2020 23: 52 New
            -2
            To be realistic: live with wolves, howl like a wolf; social being determines social consciousness; Not we such, Life is such. Here, who is closer.
            1. snake
              snake 22 June 2020 00: 03 New
              -2
              To catch a criminal, you need to think like a criminal ...
      4. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
        Andrey Krasnoyarsky 22 June 2020 10: 39 New
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        Here with the first part of your comment I agree 100%. Indeed, a respected and studied language becomes outside the country of the carrier of this language in the first place (and in all other stages) thanks to the outstanding achievements of culture. But then you went snowstorm. It turns out that the absence of masterpieces of literature and art in modern Russia is to blame for Roscosmos, Putin, Mikhalkov and Medinsky. Do they forbid writers to create epochal books, composers - great operas, and poets - ingenious poems and songs? But did Pushkin, Lermontov, Gogol and other geniuses of the golden age of Russian culture personally help Nikolai the First to create masterpieces? The cultural figure should not rely on Putin, but on himself, on his talent. And if there are no talents, then at least what kind of president or minister you put - so misery will be done.
        1. snake
          snake 22 June 2020 11: 46 New
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          Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky
          The cultural figure should not rely on Putin, but on himself, on his talent.

          And what can a cultural figure (the same director, for example) do if the Cinema Foundation allocates funds only to its own, proven "filmmakers"? On one talent you will not go far now. And Roscosmos is to blame for the theft of money and in the surrender of positions in outer space.
          Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky
          And if there are no talents, then at least what kind of president or minister you put - so misery will be done.

          There are talents. Our schoolchildren and students constantly win various Olympiads in physics, chemistry, etc. To provide them with decent earnings, working conditions, prospects, and - there will be achievements, they will. But with such a view of officials on staff recruitment as “We don’t need smart. We need faithful.” (C), we have what we have.
          1. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
            Andrey Krasnoyarsky 23 June 2020 06: 36 New
            +1
            I completely agree with Napoleon’s statement, but in this case it’s an argument like “in the elderberry garden, and in Kiev the uncle”. And your other evidence from the field of mythology. So:
            And what can a cultural figure (the same director, for example) do if the Cinema Foundation allocates funds only to its own, proven "filmmakers"?
            Is Zvyagintsev a proven movie maker? Yes, proven tore his throat, criticizing his work, and he makes films and even takes prizes at international festivals. In addition to the Cinema Fund, there are also production centers, which do not care what you have with "verification", the main thing is that the film project makes a profit. Yes, we have many writers, artists, artists and other cultural figures who do not wait for Putin to come and tell us how to work, and then give money. With science a little differently, the same cosmos cannot be mastered without state support. But where did you get the idea that no research is being done in the space field? Probably on the principle of "if I do not know, then this is not." In other branches of science there is a system of grants. Submit a promising project - get the money. And I know the people who received. But if you say, “give me the money, and I will make some discovery,” you will be sent mother-to-mother. Because both in culture and in science, the principle operates: first a project, then money for it. And not vice versa.
            1. snake
              snake 23 June 2020 13: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky
              Is Zvyagintsev a proven movie maker?

              Zvyagintsev is an exception confirming the rule. You understand that so incompetent citizens are sitting in the Cinema Fund that they even perform their function of screening out "unreliable" directors somehow. NB: Somehow, but still with a bias in mediocrity.
              Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky
              But where did you get the idea that no research is being done in the space field?

              Since the results are not visible. Some projections and concepts. Eastern - construction of national importance, could not be properly executed - without theft, without scam workers and without constructive jambs such as voids in concrete. And you say ...
    4. Boratsagdiev
      Boratsagdiev 21 June 2020 11: 56 New
      +5
      As a rule, these "illiterate threes" have several higher educations.
      Be sure to take some kind of courses "over the hill" with the diploma there.
      Many creators of the reforms of the 90s have passed the "local" refresher courses.
      Yes, and modern "zhalitanki" they are not inferior.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 21 June 2020 16: 09 New
        +2
        Not that they were taught. In our life, they give those items to five. But ours are two, and that’s because they have different perspectives.
        1. Boratsagdiev
          Boratsagdiev 21 June 2020 17: 04 New
          +1
          from what is wrong?! ....
          not just for those.
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 21 June 2020 18: 17 New
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            So I said this, a little confused.
    5. UrraletZ
      UrraletZ 22 June 2020 08: 34 New
      -1
      Most likely awesome honors living in their little worlds.
  2. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 20 June 2020 15: 13 New
    +7
    The topic of the Russian language is of course topical, especially against the backdrop of the stumbling block of Englishism, but the author went to the wrong steppe to mine.
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      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 20 June 2020 15: 16 New
        +6
        Quote: Budenovka
        Soon banned ..)))) Everything goes to this

        Russian language? bully
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 20 June 2020 19: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      The theme of the Russian language is of course topical, especially against the backdrop of the stumbling block of Englishism.

      But Comrade Stalin believed that:
      Quote: I.V. Stalin
      Of course, the vocabulary of the Russian language was supplemented by the vocabulary of other languages, but this not only did not weaken, but, on the contrary, enriched and strengthened the Russian language.

      Marxism and issues of linguistic knowledge. Regarding Marxism in Linguistics
      (True. - M., 1950, June 20)
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 20 June 2020 20: 07 New
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        I am not against the development of language, but against degradation, when already existing words are replaced by more "fashionable" Anglicisms.
        In addition, there was a dominance of signage in English.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 20 June 2020 21: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          got the dominance of signage in English

          But I was fed up with an abundance of printed materials in Spanish. Bills for telephone, electricity, gas, and what else there come duplicated in Spanish. Even the ballots! And this despite the fact that by law one of the conditions for obtaining American citizenship is a demonstration of sufficient English proficiency !!! And non-citizens have no right to vote by law.
          If you call any government office or the same telephone or electric company, then if not the first, then the second sentence you will hear "Para Español por favor marque uno (for service in Spanish, please click one)".
          And okay, this would be to attract business or on the basis of foreign tourists! So no, solely in the name of political correctness, they say we do not discriminate by language. True, Russians, Koreans, and all sorts of other Swedes, unlike the Latinos, did not see such a service and will not see it.
          Essno all these services in Spanish cost the state and companies a tidy amount, and accordingly the costs are passed on to me as a taxpayer and client.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 21 June 2020 16: 48 New
            +2
            Quote: Nagan
            An abundance of printed materials in Spanish.

            You live in a state where every day there are more native speakers of Spanish (Latinos), and therefore Spanish is logical around. In our country, the British are no longer becoming, and duplication is more logical in the Turkic and Farsi. laughing
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 21 June 2020 18: 21 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              In our country, the British are no longer becoming, and duplication is more logical in the Turkic and Farsi.

              Well, this is not counting foreign tourists. Well i.e. they are unlikely to appear in any thread in Malaya Zakhlupanka, Myxocransky district, and in Moscow and St. Petersburg all kinds of shops and restaurants have a lot of income from them, and would like even more. It so happened that the status of the world has not Turkic, Farsi, or French, namely English.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              spanish around is logical

              The Russian-speaking sign of a pharmacy on Brighton Beach Ave. didn’t distort you? If this duplication was to attract business in the places where the majority of Hispanic clients are, it would not bother me in any way. But in public institutions - whom are they trying to attract? Illegal immigrants? And ballots based on those who by law do not have the right to vote - this is something with something. Would you like Tajik ballots in Moscow?
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        3. would
          would 27 June 2020 03: 50 New
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          You just need to find out the origin of those very replaced words and you will understand that they at one time replaced Slavic words. This is a natural process that simply cannot be stopped, and most importantly it makes no sense. The only languages ​​where no borrowing takes place are dead languages.

          Well, the resistance to borrowing and even more so clearing the language from them is called "language purism."
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 27 June 2020 07: 34 New
            +2
            Tell the Jews who restored their language from the dead. And the French, who have a law to protect the language, and it works.
            Answer the question - do you like English-language signs in shops and cafes? Just do not say that these are brands - Leroy Merlin and McDonalds translated their brands.
            1. would
              would 27 June 2020 12: 01 New
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              I can tell the Jews how much and where they have borrowed. In the computer industry, one continuous borrowing, which is natural.

              The French have nothing to tell, they have a huge layer of borrowings from Latin. As well as in English itself, therefore in French and English there are VERY many similar or even identical words that were borrowed from the Romans. The law was really adopted there, but the living language is alive and that no decree is able to stop its development.

              Leroy Merlin and McDonald's never translated their names, they transliterate them and from this they do not become original Slavic.

              As for the signage, with such a formulation of the question, I do not care. It all depends on what is written and how, and most importantly, not the name but the institution itself.

              In this case, by the way, here is a question from me: If you are such a language purist, then why do you have a name borrowed from the Scandinavians on your site?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 27 June 2020 12: 03 New
                +2
                Cosmopolitans always do not care. request
                1. would
                  would 27 June 2020 12: 44 New
                  -1
                  Oh, how quickly they wrote me into cosmopolitans. Apparently Stalin with his

                  Of course, the vocabulary of the Russian language was replenished at the same time due to the vocabulary of other languages, but this not only did not weaken, but, on the contrary, enriched and strengthened the Russian language.


                  also cosmopolitan lol I will not even answer anything in essence, to analyze what cosmopolitanism is and to show that it is in no way connected with the topic of discussion.

                  Well, such a recording is natural, essentially there is nothing to answer. I recommend you to read good books on linguistics, listen to the late Zaliznyak and so on. That would no longer write anything like this about the Jews and the French and stop doing meaningless language purism.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 29 June 2020 08: 15 New
                    +1
                    What you are trying to call the development of language is nothing more than degradation. Development is when words come into use along with the subject name. Replacing existing English words or other foreign words is degradation. And no examples from the past justify this.
                    If you do not understand elementary highs - I feel sorry for you.
                    1. would
                      would 29 June 2020 10: 38 New
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                      What was required to be proved, the mathematical part was not studied, Zalizniak did not listen to lectures, and are not familiar with linguistics from the word at all.


                      What you are trying to call the development of language is nothing more than degradation

                      If you do not understand elementary high - I feel sorry for you.


                      I find it very funny to read this sentence because at the end its absolutely Latin word. It is so Latin that I understood it instantly. From there the word "elementary". There are also such words as "cosmopolitan" and "brands" (but now it is not Latin).

                      You are writing right now in a language that “degraded” long before your birth, “degrades” now, and without this “degradation” it simply would not exist. But this does not bother you at all, you write about how to borrow badly using borrowed words, and your messages about this come from under a borrowed name. And at the same time consider yourself right.

                      So in order to have the right to be called a linguistic purist, you must first change the name and clear at least your speech of all kinds of borrowings, but after that you will get at least a formal right to speak the speech of others about the whole language.
  3. FIR FIR
    FIR FIR 20 June 2020 15: 14 New
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    The language of Turgenev, Tolstoy, Dobrolyubov, Chernyshevsky is great and powerful ... And we, of course, stand for every resident of Russia to have the opportunity to learn the great Russian language.
    Lenin V.I.
    And the hours of the Russian language in schools are being reduced, for the sake of all sorts of nonsense ... And in the republics and autonomous regions, they are also simultaneously studying the languages ​​of small peoples - Tatar, Chuvash, Bashkir and others. It is clear that the clock of the Russian language is being cut even more mercilessly.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 20 June 2020 15: 27 New
      10
      Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvashs do not belong to small nations.
    2. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 24 June 2020 14: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: FIR FIR
      And in the republics and autonomous regions, they still study the languages ​​of small peoples - Tatar, Chuvash, Bashkir and others.

      I won’t say anything for Tatar and Bashkir, but they teach the Chuvash language in Chuvashia ... nothing. I mean, there are watches in order to be. But: there is no training system, it makes no sense to teach it, too, the language is complex, but in large cities it is not at all useful. Yes, the hinterland is spitting in Chuvash (and not on clean, but on surzhik), and people from the village or suburban villages know his deception. But precisely because they live in a society where it is widely used. Well, there are no penalties for even revealing kicking the bulldozer in the lessons, so that don't scare away children (To this I personally, like Russian, am very happy, we usually did homework in other subjects in the lessons of the Chuvash language). But for all its futility, the lessons of the Chuvash language take hours away from other subjects. Something like this.
  4. iouris
    iouris 20 June 2020 15: 37 New
    -9
    And if the nation votes against (purely hypothetically)?
    What Russian language "jumped up" the question? Judging by the articles and reviews on them, there are many Russian languages. Each such Russian language has its own syntax, grammar, spelling. And there is a state that today is called the Russian Federation, and yesterday it was called the USSR, and the day before yesterday the Russian Empire (Russia). Those. the state is huge, big, big ...
    The state should have a way of communication between government bodies: the state language. This language is called the "Russian language", and should be called the "state language of the Russian Federation." This is not "Russian language", i.e. the language spoken by the Russian population is a normative language in which "state people" should speak (!). This language is one of the outcomes of the millennial development of a multinational state. Anyone who does not master this language does not seek to become a "state man" (he is already good).
    We are observing how an artificial state language is being formed in Ukraine (because the state was created artificially), but the natural state language of Ukraine (yeah, that very one) does not give up, it rests on the everyday level and at the level of government bodies and troops.
    1. sevryuk
      sevryuk 20 June 2020 20: 04 New
      -1
      The state language is the language in which the state speaks to citizens. In a democratic Europe, this status is usually assigned to languages ​​of ethnic minorities (well, like Swedish in Finland). Therefore, all sorts of Georgia, Troebals and Nezalezhni, giving exclusively “their” languages ​​state status, automatically recognize that they are minority languages. But the fact that the language of the majority can be deprived of the status of the state, hardly anyone could have thought of it in Europi ... fool
  5. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 20 June 2020 15: 45 New
    +7
    I think that if you analyze all the amendments in detail, you can find a lot of ambiguous, but the voting date is too close to figure it out.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 20 June 2020 22: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Aviator_
      The voting date is too close to figure it out.

      As they said back in the USSR, "vote, do not vote, you will still get voting result". bully
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 22 June 2020 20: 47 New
        -1
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: Aviator_
        The voting date is too close to figure it out.

        As they said back in the USSR, "vote, do not vote, you will still get voting result". bully

        Something I have not heard in the Union. Where did you get this from?
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 23 June 2020 01: 56 New
          0
          I don’t remember where exactly, but in time under Brezhnev.
  6. businessv
    businessv 20 June 2020 15: 53 New
    10
    The author of the arguments for the constitutional article on the Russian language may not be aware that there is a huge difference in origin and essence.
    Like most of those who propose and make those or other amendments. You can talk about the education and literacy of the people's representatives endlessly, but you can verify the opposite by reading their pearls in social networks. Thanks to the author for the article, I can’t not post a replica of another Russian writer in this regard. Forum users and the author, I'm sorry that a little off topic, but the essence is one, and most importantly, relevant today.
    "" There will be no Russia, and never has been, such haters,
    envious, slanderous, and even overt enemies, like all these Slavic
    tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe will agree to recognize
    their liberated! On liberation, they will begin their new life,
    I repeat, precisely from what they beg for themselves from Europe, from England and Germany
    for example, guarantee and patronage of their freedom, and even in concert
    Russia will also have European powers, but they are in defense of Russia
    they will do it. They will certainly begin with what is within themselves, if not
    right out loud, they will announce to themselves and convince themselves that they are not Russia
    owe the slightest gratitude. Maybe a whole century, or
    even more, they will constantly tremble for their freedom and fear
    love of power of Russia; they will crouch in front of european
    states will slander Russia, gossip on it and
    intrigue against her. Oh, I'm not talking about individuals: there will be such
    who will understand what it means, it means and will mean Russia for them
    is always. They will understand all the greatness and all the holiness of the cause of Russia and the great
    ideas, the banner of which she will put in humanity. But these people, especially
    at first they will appear in such a miserable minority that they will be exposed
    ridicule, hatred and even political persecution. Especially nice
    will be for the liberated Slavs to voice and trumpet the whole world,
    that they are educated tribes capable of the highest European
    culture, while Russia is a barbaric, gloomy northern country
    colossus, not even pure Slavic blood, persecutor and hater
    European civilization. They, of course, will appear, from the very beginning,
    constitutional administration, parliaments, responsible ministers,
    speakers, speeches. Russia needs to seriously prepare for the fact that everything
    these liberated Slavs will rush with rapture to Europe, before losing
    personalities will become infected with European forms, political and
    social, and thus will have to survive the whole and long
    the period of europeanism before they comprehend at least something in their
    Slavic significance and in its special Slavic calling among
    of mankind "."
    F.M. Dostoevsky
    "One very special word about the Slavs, which I have long wanted
    to tell"
    The diary of a writer. September - November 1877
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 20 June 2020 22: 13 New
      +3
      The donkey will remain a donkey
      Though you let him in Europe.
      Where to act with the mind,
      He only annoys ...
      Quote: Count A.K. Tolstoy

      If you are looking for rhymes in: Europe,
      Then ask Butenop.
  7. Errr
    Errr 20 June 2020 15: 53 New
    -2
    From the article:
    ... not out of thisof the dayshnogo of the day.
    Maybe it’s better to write simply "out of this day"Edward?
    Poor, poor Russian ... crying
  8. Sergst
    Sergst 20 June 2020 15: 57 New
    -6
    Quote: Aviator_
    I think that if you analyze all the amendments in detail, you can find a lot of ambiguous, but the voting date is too close to figure it out.

    Everything is fine there, except for the only one that spoils everything ...
    1. sevryuk
      sevryuk 20 June 2020 20: 07 New
      +1
      God is not with the latter, the first is missing there: "Being a part of the divided Russian and Russian peoples ..."
  9. depressant
    depressant 20 June 2020 16: 05 New
    11
    Edward, allow me to supplement your article with the text of an amendment to the Constitution, so that there is something to start from.
    The amendment reads as follows:

    "The official language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is Russian as the language of a state-forming people that is part of a multinational union of equal peoples."

    The amendment is made in such a way that involuntarily there is an idea that somewhere in the Constitution a definition of a state-forming people is given. A thoughtful reader, accustomed to accuracy, will flog and not find it.

    The amendment is designed in such a way that there is bewilderment: the state-forming people cannot simply enter the union of equal peoples. If he is state-forming, then he forms that union.

    The amendment was made as if its authors, recognizing the Russians as a state-forming people, let Russians into the multinational union of equal peoples of Russia only out of mercy, from the back door. Could you not let me in?
  10. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 20 June 2020 16: 07 New
    +5
    Those who passed the amendments to this law are well aware that their children and grandchildren will not speak Russian, because they have long lived abroad
  11. knn54
    knn54 20 June 2020 16: 08 New
    +3
    -and legally fuzzy amendments, especially since the mysterious state-forming people are not named in it.
    The amendment to Article 68. points to the Russian people as forming a state. But according to Article 19 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, ALL peoples are equal.
    The authors forgot another beautiful "non-Russian" writer, Fonvizin.
    He remembered because they painfully resemble Mitrofanushka from the immortal work "Undergrowth."
    1. Slavutich
      Slavutich 20 June 2020 17: 01 New
      +4
      The amendment to article 68. points to the Russian people as forming a state.

      And in my opinion, the author made it clear that legal documents cannot allow any omissions and conjectures, the Constitution does not say a word what the state-forming people are called, the rest is, "guess yourself."
      What kind of people are they, why is it that they are “formative”?
      There is always time in order to clearly formulate laws; why go on a hike, where to rush?
      There was an article about the language, and an amendment in that very constitutional language is called - butter.
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 June 2020 16: 20 New
    +5
    And the argument that Pushkin, Lermontov, Derzhavin and Dahl are the "non-Russian" creators of modern Russian language and literature,
    They are more Russian than candidates and doctors of philology and linguistics from the departments of “LICE”, for example, Hasan Huseynov
    Doctor of Philology (2002) From April 2011 to September 2012 - Director of the Center for Humanitarian Studies of the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration under the President of the Russian Federation [5].
    Since October 2012 - professor at the Faculty of Philology of the Higher School of Economics, member of the Academic Council, full professor (2016). He was awarded two certificates of appreciation and thanks from the HSE, thanks from the HSE School of Philology. He was recognized as the best teacher in 2013, 2014, 2016-2019.
    He also teaches at the University of Basel (Switzerland). Member of the international project of the University of Bergen (Norway) The Future of Russian. He leads an analytical column on politics, language and culture on the International French Radio website.
    Member of the editorial board of Journal of Soviet and Post-Soviet Politics and Society, editorial board of Religion, State and Society, State, Religion, Church in Russia and Abroad, and Logos. He gives lectures at the Yeltsin Center on the history of the USSR and Russia and political linguistics.
    So far, such philologists rule the Russian language in danger and need to be protected. But Huseynov at home, to extract oil, or the EU, he would be better off there, scum. angry Although it was he who squealed, for Pushkin’s Russian language, against
    poor wretched Russian who is now spoken and written by this country.
    1. Deck
      Deck 20 June 2020 17: 03 New
      -4
      So far, such philologists rule the Russian language in danger and need to be protected. But Huseynov at home, to extract oil, or the EU, he would be better off there, scum. angry Although it was he who squealed, for the Russian language of Pushkin, against


      Re-read what you wrote again. The beautiful language of Turgenev? No, it’s written on that very “cloacal” one. The tongue is the gateway of Ligov. As stated in the joke - and these people will forbid me to pick my nose.
  13. Avior
    Avior 20 June 2020 16: 30 New
    -9
    Pushkin, Lermontov, Derzhavin and Dahl are “non-Russian” creators of the modern Russian language and literature

    But what about the first creators who missed the Pomor Lomonosov and the Westerner Uniate Smotrytsky? smile
    1. Zvonarev
      Zvonarev 21 June 2020 07: 31 New
      0
      And what can we say about Gogol and Shevchenko? what
      1. Avior
        Avior 21 June 2020 09: 06 New
        -6
        Does Gogol and Shevchenko have any special role in creating the Russian literary language?
        1. Zvonarev
          Zvonarev 22 June 2020 10: 15 New
          0
          Well, Lermontov was mentioned, apparently, there was also a special role
          1. Avior
            Avior 22 June 2020 11: 22 New
            -5
            I agree, then Gogol and Shevchenko.
            Although the question Shevchenko needs to delve into - how much and what he wrote in Russian.
  14. Alsur
    Alsur 20 June 2020 16: 39 New
    0
    But I did not understand anything from the article that the author wanted to say. Tolley he was so trying to hide it, or could not clearly explain.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 21 June 2020 13: 58 New
      -3
      Quote: ALSur
      But I did not understand anything from the article that the author wanted to say. Tolley he was so trying to hide it, or could not clearly explain.

      The author could not swim out of the flood of emanating emotions. It seems that the task is clear, but feelings and wordplay are overwhelming.
  15. 1536
    1536 20 June 2020 16: 48 New
    +3
    If the official language throughout Russia is Russian, then why are all announcements duplicated in English on public transport in Moscow? If this is done for tourists, then it is logical to duplicate everything in Chinese. And if this is done to please some contract with the British, then having voted for the amendments, there is hope that the transport announcements will not be clogged with a foreign language. Although, of course, it is known to whom the law is not written in Russia.
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 June 2020 22: 52 New
      +6
      The inscriptions in English in the same China - because of the huge influx of foreign experts, students and tourists who travel including the metro. Of the foreigners, we mainly have “effective” managers who do not take the subway. Foreign students quickly learn Russian ...
      On January 14, 2016, on the lilac branch of the Moscow metro, announcements began to be duplicated in English, and from April 14, 2017 - on the rest. Motivating such a need for the upcoming 2018 football championship. The population was unpleasantly affected, did not accept the motivation and regarded it as servility to the West - we did not have enough foreign guests in the metro at that time for such an action. It is unlikely that there is now. There was another assessment: the authorities themselves splurged, increasing their importance among themselves. Sorry and wretched.
      Or here's another example.
      You can imagine that Trump, making a speech on the occasion of the end of World War II and in this regard mentioning Roosevelt as the then president, would make a reservation that, they say, Roosevelt, of course, allowed the so-called Great Genocide of the American people, which claimed their lives 5 million men and women, but nevertheless, despite this, the United States won WWII - can you imagine this? In his article “75 years of the Great Victory: a shared responsibility to history and the future,” Putin, mentioning Stalin, could not resist mentioning the repression. What for? What did the repression have to do with an extensive analysis of the foreign policy intricacies of that time? But simply the “partners” were given a sign: even though I had to mention Stalin, don’t think bad, I’m mine for you, mine. And the fact that this was designated as a stranger to us does not matter to him.
      In general, it is a pity and wretched. Foreign diplomatic circles, of course, noted this and grinned silently ...
      The loneliness of the authorities does not contribute to the growth of respect for the state language in the world.
      Sometimes I really want to know who Putin has in his advisers. It seems that his personal enemies.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 27 June 2020 13: 51 New
        +1
        : who is there in Putin's advisers ,,
        Do you think he’s not like that?
  16. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 June 2020 16: 59 New
    +5
    "Derzhavin is a Tatar, he just jumped from the Crimea ..." what And here is Crimea? Most likely from Kazan, for Derzhavins are Kazan Tatars. hi
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 20 June 2020 17: 16 New
    -1
    Another article in the series vote or lose.
    But for some reason, in Moscow, Uzbek and Azerbaijani words are more audible on the streets. In the subway, all ads are duplicated for some reason in English.
    What will now accept the Putin Constitution, will everyone begin to speak only Russian?
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 24 June 2020 14: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      But for some reason, in Moscow, Uzbek and Azerbaijani words are more audible on the streets. In the subway, all ads are duplicated for some reason in English.

      Announcements on the introduction of the mask mode in TVs in the subway are now also being made in the languages ​​of the “brothers from Central Asia”. Seriously.
  18. demo
    demo 20 June 2020 17: 26 New
    0
    If the author is polemicizing and engaging in a dialogue in absentia, then it is necessary to quote the person to whom you are appealing.
    And then, as in a historical curiosity - we did not read Pasternak, but we condemn.

    It’s not even a matter of language.
    Although this is a very important aspect.
    The fact is, who is trying to act as the main guardian under the guise of caring for the state, for the people, for its centuries-old culture and history, for its achievements and accomplishments.
    After all, it became completely obvious that the “pygmies,” spiritual undergrowths, minions of a culture alien to us, Russia, are trying again to “blur” the eyes of the people.
    People who vowed that neither retirement age nor changes to the Basic Law would be made when they were in power, completely forgot what they said.
    If you are forced to do what you promised to do, then lay down your authority, with explanations.
    If you were "taken for sirloin" in such a way that you are not given a sigh, then just shoot yourself like a man, like an officer (in the past).
    Can not?
    Then you are worthless. And to your words.
    And the fact that you try to sit still in this place and further goes against your statement that I am not holding on to power.
    It is very symptomatic of how a person broke and crushed power.
    Well, it’s impossible not to allow a person to be president more than two times.

    TOTAL TWO TIMES.

    At least in a row, at least somehow.
    Then it will be a little easier in the country.
    And then two by two and one more time behind him.
    Few?!
    I still want to!
  19. To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 20 June 2020 17: 40 New
    -1
    I can’t understand. What did the author of the article want to say?
    Or, again, the combination is amended from the amendment: ““ The state language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is Russian as the language of a state-forming people that is part of the multinational union of equal peoples of the Russian Federation ”
    Two concepts are immediately introduced into the Constitution:
    1. The state language of the Russian Federation throughout its territory is the Russian language ..
    2. Russian-state-forming people. "Russian as the language of state-forming people"
    This is the strength of Russia. As Russians are a state-forming people
    there is a skeleton. on which are attached. other peoples of a huge country live and develop. preserving their languages. culture and national characteristics ...
  20. nikvic46
    nikvic46 20 June 2020 18: 10 New
    -2
    If a person speaks Russian well, this does not mean that we are talking about a good person. We used to learn ordinary radio in Russian. And at school we were told: - "Vova. Read a poem with an expression." Now they forgot about it. .The Russian language itself should be voiced whether you are a good person or so-so. Our native language should not show superiority over other languages. Recently, I see a bias in the networks towards Black Hundred thinking. Like, we are Russians above all. It is good to speak Americans inside America . They have a common nationality denotes the name of the continent. We have too many nationalities, and this arrogance is useless.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 20 June 2020 18: 58 New
      +3
      No need to hang up labels right away - this is suggestive of certain thoughts about you!
      Would you like to criticize one of the best states in the world?
      "Basic Law: Israel is a nation state
      Jewish people *
      Article 1.
      Basic principles
      (Aleph) Eretz Yisrael (Country of Israel) is the historical homeland of the Jewish
      the people in which the State of Israel was born.
      (bet) The state of Israel is the national state of the Jewish people,
      in which he realizes his natural, cultural, religious and
      historical right to self-determination.
      (gimel) Realization of the right to national self-determination in the State
      Israel belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. "
      http://knesset.gov.il/laws/ru/yesodru16.pdf
      So what? Well done, clearly. Clear and without complexes. What others will say ..
      Prosperity to Israel !! And a peaceful sky!
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 20 June 2020 20: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: To be or not to be
        No need to hang up labels right away - this is suggestive of certain thoughts about you!
        Would you like to criticize one of the best states in the world?
        "Basic Law: Israel is a nation state
        Jewish people *
        Article 1.
        Basic principles
        (Aleph) Eretz Yisrael (Country of Israel) is the historical homeland of the Jewish
        the people in which the State of Israel was born.
        (bet) The state of Israel is the national state of the Jewish people,
        in which he realizes his natural, cultural, religious and
        historical right to self-determination.
        (gimel) Realization of the right to national self-determination in the State
        Israel belongs exclusively to the Jewish people. "
        http://knesset.gov.il/laws/ru/yesodru16.pdf
        So what? Well done, clearly. Clear and without complexes. What others will say ..
        Prosperity to Israel !! And a peaceful sky!

        So, why be surprised and some such "others" will say something there? Israel is a unitary state, that’s the whole secret. hi
      2. nikvic46
        nikvic46 21 June 2020 06: 40 New
        0
        Yesterday. I generally have a drum of nationality outside of Russia. I just don’t need to infringe on the arrogance of nationality in our country.
  21. Freeman
    Freeman 20 June 2020 19: 48 New
    -1
    So, Ivan IV took himself out of Augustus, and the first Romanovs from the Romans - Roma!

    Here, at the Romanovs, the "problem" came out.
    Roma - This is the self-name of the gypsy people in Russia and Europe. wassat laughing

    Threat. But seriously, the “Roma”, a distorted Romuva or Romow (Romovė, Romow) - one of the main pagan sanctuaries in medieval Prussians, founded by the Prussian rulers Videvutom and Bruten.

    Videvut and Bruten were kings of the Cimbri and, being expelled by the Goths from their ancestral territories, they arrived with people by sea to the mouth of the Vistula in Ulmigania, where they established their authority among the local tribes.

    Actually from the Prussian ruler Videvut, through his descendant, Gland Kambil, the Romanovs derive their kind.
    1. Freeman
      Freeman 20 June 2020 23: 16 New
      +1
      Volnoper (Alexey) Today, 19:48
      Actually from the Prussian ruler Videvut, through his descendant, Gland Kambil, the Romanovs derive their kind

      Well, and what is the "minus"?
      This "alternative story", the Romanovs wrote to themselves in an anniversary edition for the 300th anniversary of their House.


      screenshot


      source:
      http://elib.shpl.ru/ru/nodes/24154
  22. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 20 June 2020 20: 12 New
    +1
    The article is not bad. The illiteracy of the author and the editor only unpleasantly cut: in a quote from Mayakovsky, FOR and THEN are written separately!
  23. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 June 2020 21: 41 New
    +3
    Language must be protected. As you wish - with or without amendments.

    Somehow, it turned out that, along with the Russians, they cherished him, cherished him, and developed all sorts of non-believers, unchristians and other non-letter nationalities. In which case, do not worry, he will not be lost. We will continue to cherish. yes
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 June 2020 10: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The language must be protected.

      What we have, we do not store, we lose, weep.
      I am not a philologist, but I see: there is no romanticism: the state language of the Russian Federation is attacked "from every iron" (despite the titanic efforts of the literary "Gentiles" and "non-Christians"). Who needs the state, he must save the state language ("Comrade Stalin, you are a great scientist, But in linguistics, But you know a lot ...").
      Objectively, the degradation of the state language of the Russian Federation is a sign of degradation of the state. This is also indicated by the construction of a society of developed technological lag, which is accustomed to "devices" and "gadgets", to "consumption of content", "transactions", and therefore is forced to master international (North American) technical slang. The last Russian word that has almost become international is "satellite" (Sputnik).
      1. Liam
        Liam 21 June 2020 10: 51 New
        0
        Quote: iouris
        The last Russian word that has almost become international is "satellite" (Sputnik).

        Not. The generally accepted term is satellite.
        Only Vodka, Perestroika and Glasnost became international)
      2. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 21 June 2020 11: 00 New
        0
        Well, this is the problem of all the "young" languages. When scientists found the "Word of Igor’s Regiment", only linguists could read the manuscript. And even a translation made by a group of literary critics led by academician D.S. Likhachev, has little in common with the modern literary Russian language.
        This means that for 700-800 years, the Russian language has changed beyond recognition.
        He is alive and continues to change before our eyes. Power methods and saber attacks cannot be dealt with here. This is a long and painstaking work.
        1. iouris
          iouris 21 June 2020 11: 14 New
          0
          There is an opinion that modern English (the official language of Great Britain) was artificially created by the so-called, you see, William, ours, Shakespeare, when the Venetian merchants arrived on the islands to get out of the attack and in order to expand the business to a global scale. Ordinary English still can not master it.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 21 June 2020 11: 17 New
            0
            Quote: iouris
            Ordinary English still can not master it.

            I won’t say for Shakespeare, I don’t know. But ordinary English have a simple language. Actually, like ordinary Russians and ordinary Turks and all ordinary people in the world.
  24. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 20 June 2020 23: 47 New
    +1
    Literature is my everything. And I would not divide it into Russian and not Russian ... Yes there is such a thing - Russians are more soulful or something, but on the other hand I will name you many very talented authors from Anglo-Saxons. So let's not mix politics and literature.
  25. vitalij boniwur
    vitalij boniwur 21 June 2020 00: 10 New
    +2
    I agree, for example, I am German by origin, but in fact RUSSIAN German! I wish my Motherland - Russia prosperity and peace! ✌
  26. Irina M
    Irina M 21 June 2020 11: 04 New
    +2
    One of the troubles of the Russian language is that the area of ​​its use in 1991 was deliberately reduced by the destruction of the Soviet Union. Currently, its impoverishment is unreasonably large use of foreign words. Of course, the language changes as technological progress develops and transparency of borders between countries increases. But this does not mean that you need to clog it with buzzwords or just words from another language, only because they say so abroad. For example, Okay, it’s appropriate to say in English-speaking countries, if you speak English, the word "pasta" in the Mediterranean countries, and the White House is exclusively in the USA
  27. Alt 22
    Alt 22 21 June 2020 16: 02 New
    +1
    Author, do you dare to speak for the Russians? Now non-Russian Russians will explain to you that you are a “Nazi" because of this. There is such a tendency in the Russian Federation - Tatars can be worried about Tatars, Chechens for Chechens, and if Russians speak for Russians - the label "nationalists" is the most harmless of those that hang on them ...
  28. Taga
    Taga 22 June 2020 00: 25 New
    0
    Sorry for the abstract question, but ... Did the articles on the website discuss such an aspect of amendments as the State Council?
    1. CT-55_11-9009
      CT-55_11-9009 24 June 2020 14: 47 New
      +1
      I haven’t seen yet, so, hurt me in passing - and that’s it.
  29. Lynx-z
    Lynx-z 25 June 2020 08: 10 New
    0
    But the key argument for the amendment was also somewhat dumbfounded. It was as if I had been returned during the time of perestroika, and I hear and read again and again that Russian literature was written by non-Russians.
    And why there is no reference to these arguments ?? who said that?
  30. zlobny tatarin
    zlobny tatarin 25 June 2020 10: 11 New
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    The article is extremely chaotic and mysterious. What the author wanted to say is unknown.
  31. Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 25 June 2020 12: 28 New
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    Pushkin, probably foresaw this more than 200 years ago, when in chapter 10 of “Eugene Onegin” he wrote:
    The sovereign is weak and crafty,
    A bald dandy, the enemy of labor,
    Unintentionally warmed by glory,
    Reigned over us then.
    We knew him very meek,
    When not our cooks
    Double-headed eagle pinched
    Bonapart's tent.
    Thunderstorm twelve
    Arrived - who helped us here?
    Frenzy of the people
    Barclay, winter or Russian god?
  32. Iris
    Iris 26 June 2020 23: 33 New
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    An article about the Russian language on a site where absolutely no one - from the moderator to the author of this publication - is capable of linking four words without errors, looks especially relevant.
    1. Slavutich
      Slavutich 27 June 2020 06: 31 New
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      The article is not about the Russian language, but about the amendment.
      Moderator - not suitable, the author is not the one, this is just the case "when you don’t see forests behind two pine trees",
      when you say nothing, they cling to the non-essential.