Ukrainian military spoke about the development of the American clone RPG-7

The National Guard of Ukraine conducts classes in firing from the American grenade launcher PSRL-1. The actions of the Ukrainian National Guard are controlled and corrected by experienced instructors. The fighters master the skills of shooting at various targets.

We occupy the firing line, work on two goals. When they have already fired at the grenade launcher, we run back behind cover. Then “modify” 10 rounds (grenades) on the enemy,

- says the grenade launcher of military unit 3017 Viktor Bondarenko.

In the photographs from the official page of the National Guard of Ukraine, we see how the military are honing the art of firing from American grenade launchers.

The Ukrainian military noted the "ease of operation" of a US-made grenade launcher.

But the National Guard are acting because of the shelter ...

Recall that the supply of hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers PSRL-1 from the United States to Ukraine began in 2018. Then the National Guard received 500 American grenade launchers, after which the State Research Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs developed a special training manual for dealing with the new weapons.

Experts call the PSRL-1 grenade launcher an updated American clone of the Soviet RPG-7. It is manufactured by AirTronic. The aiming range of the grenade launcher is 800 meters, the barrel resource is designed for a thousand shots.

At the same time, the PSRL is compatible with all existing RPG shots, which greatly simplifies its use by the Ukrainian National Guard.

Comments

[Ingvar 72]

Back to the Future! Or forward to the past?

[Evdokim]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Back to the Future! or forward to the past?

Soon from the states they will be sent kirzachi with footcloths, and modernized Maxims.

[Romka47]

I represent kirzachi yellow-brown, and maxim with picatinny slats)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Romka47

I represent kirzachi yellow-brown, and maxim with picatinny slats)

And on the socks bright red lipstick

[Vicontas]

Right now they will start to kill themselves with the help of a new gadget! There used to be a domestic one - the Hammer mortar! Now, abroad will help them diversify the menu!

[Black Colonel]

And harem pants. Now I just thought: Why are such wide pants called harem pants? Probably so that the owner’s balls would not cook there!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Back to the Future! Or forward to the past?

Forward to 1961, the lads survived. Maybe soon the infantry will be armed with the Berdan-1 rifle.

[Elephant]

So we RPG-7 is still in service in a number of parts. It is quite effective and versatile.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Elephant

So we RPG-7 is still in service in a number of parts.

So who is against, a good weapon. In Ukraine, they should be enough for another ten years (if not pushed to the left), but right there it is not what kind of weapon it is, the main thing is an "American grenade launcher", not a Soviet one. Ukraine is no longer a "scoop", but Europe.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Elephant

So we RPG-7 is still in service in a number of parts.

So we have the good old RPG-7, and not its American copy. By the way, why did the Americans begin to produce this copy? Yes, to supply the natives with cheap and simple weapons that are hard to break or ruin ....

[donpablo]

they themselves are happy to use both RPGs and Kalashnikovs and others. in real combat, the American for real battles is not very suitable

[tol100v]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Back to the Future! Or forward to the past?

And it is not the first and not the last time that the SGA steal and appropriate someone else's, and even present it as its own "HOW-KNOW"!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Well, at least so let them indicate their belonging to Western Civilization. And then all of the Soviet weapons in the people and cities that protect the common Soviet past.

[Podvodnik]

Do they have a license? Copyright Infringement. To court on them. Arrest property to secure a claim.

[Revolver]

Quote: Podvodnik

Copyright Infringement.

Under US law, a patent expires 20 years after the application.

[Black Colonel]

Well, in American, and in Russian, is there something similar?

[Alex Justice]

They and Kalashnikov are releasing.

[credo]

The intensity of the Ukrainian arms supply to Ukraine by the EU and US countries once again confirms that the Anglo-Saxons do not even think about any peaceful solution to the status of Donbass and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing for war, until the last citizen of Ukraine.

[Machete]

Native:
- We received and mastered the latest American grenade launchers.
Correspondent:
- So this is essentially Soviet grenade launchers. You at least eat them!
Native:
- We GOT and mastered the NEWEST AMERICAN grenade launchers!

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

. The aiming range of the grenade launcher is 800 meters, the barrel resource is designed for a thousand shots.

Well, they have surpassed it, what can we say. Our "seven" has a barrel resource ranging from 300 (RPG-7 / 7V) to 250, and the aiming range, emnip, somewhere in the 200-500 meters maximum, is certainly not 800.

[Graz]

the question is the price, ours costs five times cheaper, the range is certainly good, but without stabilization, or the FIG target you will reach 800m from your shoulder

[Elephant]

Quote: Graz

range it’s certainly good, but without stabilization, or the FIG head you’ll be hit 800m from your shoulder

If for example we take our OG-7V fragmentation grenade, where the lesion area is 150 m², then we don’t need to aim much.

[vfwfr]

So I understand that if they don’t lie, which is also not a fact, then 800m is not an aiming range, but it flies at 800m ... And where it will fly .. God knows

[Keyser soze]

200-500 maximum, not at all 800.

First - 800 meters is not all that God. Arsenal fragmentation reaches up to 2 km.
https://www.arsenal-bg.com/c/rounds-for-light-anti-tank-recoilless-systems-atgl-l-family-and-russian-rpg-7v-67/rhef-7ldma-79

The second - you really can’t hit either 800 meters or 2 km. Eto how to shoot at the moon ...

[5-9]

Like if you put the PG-7VR into the perfection of the progressive technologies of freedom, then they can get to not 200 meters but 800 ???

[garri-lin]

Absurdity is utter. RPG7 is essentially a guide for shooting. All other parameters depend on the shot.

[Slavs]

Quote: Ragnar Lothbrok

Well, they have surpassed it, what can we say. Our "seven" has a barrel resource ranging from 300 (RPG-7 / 7V) to 250, and the aiming range, emnip, somewhere in the 200-500 meters maximum, is certainly not 800.

You can write anything in an advertising brochure ... And about the range and about the resource.
And then a wild mixture of ukro and pindo ....

[businessv]

At the same time, the PSRL is compatible with all existing RPG shots, which greatly simplifies its use by the Ukrainian National Guard.

And what, the Soviet legacy sold everything? Or is it the consequences of desovetization (decommunization)? Some kind of sur with a bias towards moronism!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: businessv

And what, the Soviet legacy sold everything?

The Soviet was sold to Africa, with the proceeds they bought the American. In the civilian navy there is a saying "I will sell vodka abroad, I will go to a tavern and get drunk."

[V.I.P.]

Range 800 m. What kind of grenade are they going to shoot? What are they doing? Soviet RPG -7, up to 500m. And so, the effective fire of the tandem PG-7VR-200m, fragmentation OG-7V from RPG-7V1-350m, RPG-7V1 with UP-7V-700m .. Thermobaric TBG-7V-up to 500m depending on the grenade launcher and sight ..PG- 7VL-up to 300m.

[uav80]

Bulgarian shot RTB-7LDMA1 with Thermobaric Grenade GTB-7LDMA1 maximum range 3000m sighting range with an open sight 350m ...
Maybe the Ukrainians on the maximum range were driven ...

For the same Bulgarians, the maximum range of the shot varies greatly, some shots have only 500, those who have 1000, 1200, also have 2000 and 2500 ...
the list of shots can be found on the arsenal website arsenal-bg.com

[V.I.P.]

But who needs these maximum ranges or sighting range of the Russian rifle ?? If you can get from an RPG to a tank up to 300 m, and from an AK you can hit people up to 350 aimingly .... THEN even though they all fly at least 20 km from this data?)))

[Avior]

Logical choice.
The modern version of the famous RPG-7
It’s easier, the resource is longer, stronger, the sight is different, the effective range has grown to 1200 m, it’s more convenient, it can be disassembled into 2 parts for convenience.
And in the ancestors the same RPG.
It is not produced in Ukraine, the Soviet one is at least 30 years old.

[Romka47]

Please in more detail how he began to shoot at 1200? Or are there grenades of the wrong system?

[Avior]

Of course, it also depends on the grenade, but not only.
But we are not talking about range, but about the effective range.
They write that 800 meters with a probability of defeat of 90 percent.
The sight is different, there is a piccatini bar, change if necessary.

[garri-lin]

The Merikos have two of their shots. So they go to the maximum range. They just stand like everything American.

[Avior]

The launcher itself is positioned as a low-cost version, but they don’t know the money

[garri-lin]

Launcher is possible. New long-range shots are several times more expensive than conventional ones. Maybe this is justified.

[your1970]

Quote: Avior

They write that 800 meters with a probability of defeat 90 percent.

- I’m embarrassed to ask- if they have such chance on such range - why do they need ATGM ??????

[Avior]

I am sure that this range is not every grenade, but only expensive versions.
They also write that they are allegedly trying to develop a guided grenade with a range of 2000 m.
I think if they do, the price will be high, but not like ATGM anyway.

[V.I.P.]

They, together with SAAB, have already made a rocket for the grenade launcher Karl Gustav 4. Already flies. True, there are electronic sights. And a rocket for 1-2 km. flies

[tol100v]

From the "White Sun of the Desert"!

[lego2]

maybe Soviet and 30 years old, but what became the iron pipe in the lubricant in storage?

[Avior]

I do not know. And how many were there?
After all, it’s not the army that I buy, as I understand it, but the National Guard.
And I'm not sure what launchers are expensive to them.

[cat Rusich]

Sergey, RPG-7D (1, 2, 7V2) (GRAU 6G5 index) - adopted in 1963, for paratroopers, it is disassembled into 2 (two) parts, there are bipods. Everything has already been invented ...

[Avior]

Maybe by the same principle, but I think not one to one is done.
The base is more modern.
Details are in English sources you need to climb, laziness :)
And so it is clear, the basis is the same, but the modified version, and the quality, as I understand it, is not a Chinese craft.

[tol100v]

Quote: Avior

, but a modified version, and high-quality,

Not high quality, but ORDER more expensive!

[Mountain shooter]

Not even optics. And what's so new? Manufacturer country?

[Avior]

The plank of picattini is worth it.

[wowka]

AirTronic Shoulder-Fired Rocket Ammunition

Specifications

[wowka]

AirTronic Precision Shoulder-fired Rocket Launcher (PSRL)
Bore (Calibre) 40mm
Weight 14 lbs (6.35 kg)
Length 36 in (915 mm)
Material 4140/4150 Machined Ordnance Grade Barrel Steel (No Casting)
Sight (s)
3x24 Sightmark® Wolfhound® Prismatic Weapon Sight with Custom RPG BDC Reticle
3.5x35 Trijicon® ACOG® TA11 Scope with Custom RPG BDC Reticle
Flip-up Back-up Iron Sights on Picatinny Rail (Standard)
12x Pulsar® Trail XP-50® Thermal Sight (800 m range)
10x Pulsar® Trail XP-30® Thermal Sight (500 m range)

Lifecycle 1000 rounds
Maximum Range 1,200 meters (round and sight dependent)
Effective Range 850 meters (round and sight dependent)
Safety Range 20 meters (back blast)
Ammunition All Standard RPG-7 compatible rockets
Standard Accessories 2-point Sling, Picatinny Rails, Cleaning Kit, Spare Parts Kit, Boresight, Operators Manual, Dust Covers, Vertical Grip
Optional Accessories Padded Carry Bag, 3-Rocket Backpack, Hardcase, Harris® Bipod
Color Options Classic Gray (standard), Flat Dark Earth, OD Green
Warranty One Year Limited for Defects in Material and Workmanship
Production Capabilities 1,000 per month (with notice)

[4ekist]

..... We occupy the firing line, work on two goals. When they have already fired at the grenade launcher, we run back behind cover. Then “modify” 10 rounds (grenades) on the enemy,
- says Victor Bondarenko grenade launcher of military unit 3017 ......

Diligent students, you will not say anything.

[Keyser soze]

What, they can’t produce RPG 7s and shells for it ?! Anyway, who should teach whom to shoot with RPGs that question .... This world is crazy ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Anyway, who should be taught whom to shoot with RPGs is that question ....

This is how to look ...
Photo, of course, 2014, "the first wave of moGilization", but the plot suggests ...

[Keyser soze]

Photo, of course 2014, "the first wave of moGilization"

Hmm ... well, new generations are completely shaky, but what to do, the world has become such ... :)

[Cowbra]

Yes, the photo is famous

[boris epstein]

Their production simply cannot be allowed. How did you manage to hammer the killer of your own calculations with the Hammer from an excellent Soviet mortar with a caliber of 120 mm 2C12 Sani?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Boris Epstein

Their production simply cannot be allowed. How did you manage to hammer the killer of your own calculations with the Hammer from an excellent Soviet mortar with a caliber of 120 mm 2C12 Sani?

Let them do it. And more

[boris epstein]

Here are just a trophy Hammers in service can not be taken.

[Insurgent]

Quote: boris epstein

Here are just a trophy Hammers in service can not be taken.

Laughter, laughter, but I don’t understand, and apparently I can never understand how (?!?) pipes 2C12, which is a mortar, the designer (and possibly the whole design bureau) managed to create punishing hammer , the scourge of the APU ...

[Ded_Mazay]

They have such karma. As Mironov sang in a diamond hand - "what they do not do business ..."

[Glory1974]

Experts call the PSRL-1 grenade launcher an updated American clone of the Soviet RPG-7. It is manufactured by AirTronic.

Americans at the request of the Pentagon built a plant that produces Soviet weapons: RPG, SVD, PC. According to the official version, so as not to retrain the locals.
The following conclusion can be drawn from this:
1. The US plans to continue to supply clones of Soviet weapons to various militants in territories adjacent to Russia.
2. Soviet weapons are much better, cheaper and more efficient than American ones.
3. They do not count on victory in all these conflicts. Otherwise, they would be armed with American weapons with the aim of making an advertisement for themselves and their weapons after the victory.
Although, in principle, given that they abandon their small arms and partially switch to German, and develop new ones, advertising will not save them.

[prior]

No, the grenade launcher will not save
Kohl in my head a solid litter ....

[013Azer]

As for the American RPGs, they themselves purchase it all more from other countries. Where it then falls into is not known. Maybe the Americans themselves use it.
About 10 years ago, Azerbaijan set the task of displacing (partially) Bulgaria in terms of the supply of grenade launchers, machine guns, and certain types of ammunition to the United States. We have built factories, exclusively on Swiss equipment for the production of all this, as well as "RPQ 7 Qaya". After the first deliveries, the Americans were convinced that ours was superior in quality to the Bulgarian counterparts. Since then, these weapons have been sold to the United States in large quantities, but why would the Americans, if even Ukraine, are being sent deshman versions even without an optical sight?

Here they are, even special forces use it. Shoots 8 types of ammunition.

[5-9]

800 meters ???? From RPG-7?
The triumph of American physics in the hands of pop-skakuazov!

[Reserve buildbat]

No magic. For RPG-7, the self-liquidator of a grenade for 700 meters is designed. And here at 800)))

[Insurgent]

Quote: Stroibat stock

No magic. For RPG-7, the self-liquidator of a grenade for 700 meters is designed. And here at 800)))

The grenade, of course, flies further if the self-liquidator is "foolish", and whether it is simply removed.
Actually, this is practiced both from our side and from the Ukrop. Moreover, not only the shots for the RPG-7, but also for the SPG-9 and the BMP-1 cannon are being "modernized" ...

[Reserve buildbat]

I know this for a long time and not bad
But this is already a "file revision", and not regular changes in the design, like a wonderful "increase in range" from mattresses

[Insurgent]

Quote: Stroibat stock

But this is already a "file revision", and not regular changes in the design, like a wonderful "increase in range" from mattresses

Yes, I do not believe in these "miracles" of mattress, I just do not believe ...

[Reserve buildbat]

So I do not believe
But where are the mattresses without ads?

[Viktor Sergeev]

800 meters? Interesting, but at least with 300 get?

[Vladislav_2]

would not kill each other with this "masterpiece"

[Thrifty]

This is not a mortar hammer, unfortunately! To also successfully exploded in the hands of those who use weapons against the people of Donbass.

[Cowbra]

Recall that the supply of hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers PSRL-1 from the United States to Ukraine began in 2018.

They appeared even earlier in the "Dung", why Dung flew over a hat, that they were posing with them in front of the cameras - because officially the United States did not supply weapons to the belligerent country at that time

[Mavrikiy]

Ukrainian military spoke about the development of the American clone RPG-7

Well, it’s clear, plastic and smooth, it’s nice on the cheek and warm, the handles are comfortable.

barrel resource is designed for a thousand shots.

it is necessary for 1 000 000. The life of a grenade launcher long and happy begins only after 2 000 tanks.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mavrikiy

it is necessary for 1 000 000. The life of a grenade launcher long and happy begins only after 2 000 tanks.

By itself RPGeshnik, because nine lives, like that of a cat ...

[Reserve buildbat]

In general, here the skakuas can be congratulated: the bandits (APU) received convenient and reliable RPG-7s, and regular thieves have mastered a lot of money in dohlopreziki. (The price of this RPG-7 clone is 4-5 times higher than the original). At the same time, the "politicians" proudly reported that they once again licked the owner where it should be.

[Zaurbek]

They have RPG 7 in warehouses over?

[JD1979]

They called our seven some POSRAL first ...

[Evil 55]

The resource of the barrel? At the launcher? Does the rifling fly off or is the plastic of the barrel breaking?

[Revolver]

Will they break it?
Lose it?
Resell?

Make bets, gentlemen!

[Normal ok]

He shot, at one time, from RPG-7V. Liked))

[Signore Tomato]

By virtue of their history, pathetic Americans always choose a side with a lower level of development. Therefore, when Amers try to sell more high-tech weapons to the Aborigines, the Aborigines immediately resell directly from the warehouses to the opposing side, as they simply are not able to cope with this most high-tech weapons. Therefore, the amers had to make the simplest weapons, which they supply to countries such as Congo, Ukraine and Papua New Guinea.