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The rebellious abbot and the capture of the monastery: what is happening near Yekaterinburg

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Dramatic events unfolded in the Central Ural Monastery, not far from Yekaterinburg. The monastery is captured by the people of the disgraced shiigumen, but the police have not yet taken coercive measures against the clergyman.


Who is schemygumen Sergiy


The conflict in the church circles of the Urals, which began in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic, on June 16 turned into an open confrontation. Shiigumen Sergius, who sharply criticized the church leadership due to the ban on visiting churches during the period of self-isolation, was removed from service.

But Sergius himself did not agree with this decision. Relying on the support of the Cossacks sympathizing with him, the shiigumen occupied the Central Ural Monastery, expelling the abbess. The territory of the monastery was taken under guard by Cossacks loyal to Sergius. At the same time, representatives of the Ural Cossacks already managed to declare their non-involvement in this strange situation.

Sheikhigumen Sergius can be safely called one of the most peculiar Russian priests. He is 65 years old. In the distant Soviet past - a police officer - spent many years in prison. Then his name was Nikolai Romanov. After his release, he went into religion and made a good career in the Russian Orthodox Church.

Interestingly, at the time, Sergius was the confessor of the recently deceased kingpin Timur Mirzoyev (Timur Sverdlovsky) - a relative of another influential authority, also the late Aslan Usoyan (Ded Hasan). But it is hardly possible to find something reprehensible in this, since the priest should help any people who turn to him for spiritual support.


Natalya Poklonskaya and sheikhumen Sergiy (Romanov)

So, the deputy Natalya Poklonskaya speaks very well about the schema of Sergius. It is possible that they are united by a common enthusiasm for the last Russian emperor Nicholas II.

Self-isolation led to escalation of the conflict


Judging by his actions, Sergius is rather skeptical towards the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church. The situation around the coronavirus pandemic has clearly demonstrated this. Sergius openly, in a video message, cursed everyone who called for the closure of churches during self-isolation.

In addition, shegumen Sergius criticized the digital identification of individuals, the collection of biometric data, calling it the path to the "satanic regime." “Gazeta.ru” reports that a criminal case was instituted against Father Sergius by the Center for Combating Extremism of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Sverdlovsk Region under article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Incitement to hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity”.

In the end, the leadership of the diocese forbade Sergius to serve, but he did not obey this decision. Cleric George Viktorov, who was appointed to the place of Sergius, was not allowed into the monastery. The sheikhumen himself flatly refuses to leave the monastery, although he is prescribed by the diocesan authorities in the St. John the Theological male monastery.

It is noteworthy that right now, after the criticisms of the Scheme of St. Sergius against the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church, they “suddenly remembered” that more than 30 years ago, layman Nikolai Romanov was convicted of a criminal offense and spent 13 years in prison. The crime committed by him was called an obstacle to the ordination of priests. But after all, Sergius became a priest at the beginning of the zero years, twenty years ago, and all this time, it turns out, his past did not bother anyone?


The Sredneuralsky Convent in honor of the Icon of the Blessed Virgin Mary “The Sporelitel of Breads”, located 10 kilometers from Yekaterinburg, was founded by Sergius himself and built, first of all, with the help of his flock. Therefore, Sergius considers himself in full right to be in a monastery, which, perhaps, would not have opened without his participation. Today, the monastery has its own agricultural complex, workshops, that is, it can exist offline.

On June 17, police arrived at the monastery. According to local media, the police arrived after reporting the unrest in the monastery. However, further events developed rather unusual: as the head of the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Sverdlovsk Region, Colonel Valery Gorelykh, told the journalists, the investigative-operational group headed by the head of the regional department went to the specified address, but the information about the riots was not confirmed. After that, law enforcement officers left the monastery.

The official website of the Yekaterinburg diocese published an official appeal from its press service, which, in particular, states:

To date, the activities of the banned clergyman of the Yekaterinburg diocese of Shiigumen Sergius (Romanov) are the subject of consideration by the diocesan church court, which has not yet made a final decision. According to church rules, a clergyman accused of canonical violations should be given not only the opportunity to justify the charges against him, but also the time to review his errors and repentance, which is the main goal of the church court.

How the situation will develop in the future is not yet clear. It is possible that sooner or later they will try to release the monastery’s territory by force, especially if the criminal case instituted in relation to the schemyumen Sergiy will be given further.

It is also worth noting that the conflict around the Sredneuralsky Convent and the position of Scheme Hegumen Sergius (Romanov) is a consequence of the long-standing contradictions that exist between individual conservatively minded clergy and their believers, and the official line of the Russian Orthodox Church. At the center of this conflict are different points of view regarding the attitude of the church to the processes taking place in the life of the Russian state and society.
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  1. janeck
    janeck 18 June 2020 12: 45 New
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    "Interestingly, at one time Sergius was the confessor of the recently deceased kingpin Timur Mirzoev (Timur Sverdlovsky)"
    - the author .. is this a quote in plus, or in the minus goes to the abbot ??
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 18 June 2020 12: 53 New
      +4
      Another brace shook.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 18 June 2020 12: 57 New
        -25
        Quote: Malyuta
        Another brace shook.

        That's the glory of the CPSU, chi sho ... lol Or is it your merit. Shatter of the universe .. wassat lol
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 18 June 2020 13: 16 New
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          Quote: 30 vis
          Such is the glory of the CPSU, chi sho ... lol Or is it your merit. Shatel of the universe ..

          What am I doing here? You yourself will shake everything and ruin it to hell.
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Which brace has staggered? More details please! Or can you only use slogans?

          I really apologize, but I can do it differently.
          1. DeKo
            DeKo 18 June 2020 13: 57 New
            -50
            You have already ruined everything in Ukraine. Russians are not so stupid as to follow the path of Ukraine
          2. Constructor68
            Constructor68 22 June 2020 14: 30 New
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            What am I doing here? You yourself will shake everything and ruin it to hell.

            Such trepachki and demagogues like you with any power have nothing to do with it. You are good, and they are all bad. You alone know all the recipes of government. It is a pity that they do not immediately take presidents from the post of plumber of the Uryupinsky housing and communal services, otherwise you would have corrected everything right away in our country.
      2. WILL
        WILL 18 June 2020 12: 58 New
        -8
        Quote: Malyuta
        Another brace shook.

        Which brace has staggered? More details please! Or can you only use slogans?
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 18 June 2020 13: 19 New
          -2
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Which brace has staggered? More details please! Or can you only use slogans?

          Well, first your leaders placed the hat of Hitler in the right-winged church, and then the confessor of the Pobetsk monastery seized and the authorities cursed.
          Is it very tight?
          1. WILL
            WILL 18 June 2020 13: 35 New
            +8
            Well, about the "Hitler’s cap" (c), in the Memorial Complex "Memory Road" - his suit is really kept ... does it bother you?
            He has not been the Confessor of Poklonskaya for quite some time.
            Tell me how would you personally feel about a person who calls to give a damn about all sanitary measures and visit the Temples ??? Would you go?
            Anyway - the Scheme can’t behave like that, he should be detached from all the worldly things, and this is just a PR for himself - a smug Clown.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 18 June 2020 16: 42 New
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              Quote: ANIMAL
              Tell me how would you personally feel about a person who calls to give a damn about all sanitary measures and visit the Temples ??? Would you go?

              And how would you react to this?

              Look in the original and this is the fed.channel !!!
              I am not against religion, but against obscurantism. Live by the laws of society, live yourself and let others live.
              And Sergius is not the first rebel against the Russian Orthodox Church.
              1. Mitroha
                Mitroha 18 June 2020 18: 08 New
                -14
                Obscurantism in yourself. KMK
                They split Orthodoxy in Ukraine, now they are trying it. This option also has a right to exist. And then, to capture the convent with the "Cossacks", sorry, no words
                1. Hantengri
                  Hantengri 19 June 2020 19: 49 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Mitroha
                  And then, to capture the convent with the "Cossacks", sorry, no words

                  And what other monastery do you think should be captured “with the Cossacks”? Male or what?
                  And in this case, the Cossacks are not ashamed, and the nuns are pleased! wassat
                  1. Mitroha
                    Mitroha 19 June 2020 20: 42 New
                    +1
                    The female must be conquered, through the hearts, and not captured. Cossacks really need to know this. Otherwise, the invaders can rob anathema from nuns. angry
            2. 210ox
              210ox 18 June 2020 19: 00 New
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              It would be better if he drove the devils. From the "Yeltsin Center", together with guests from the sect of the wino.
              1. ruivit1988
                ruivit1988 19 June 2020 07: 55 New
                +1
                It has no right to do so because all power is about God.
        2. DeKo
          DeKo 18 June 2020 13: 57 New
          -5
          Ukraine of the new time all consists of slogans and fantasies
      3. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 18 June 2020 13: 17 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Another brace shook.

        Amendments about God to the constitution will be accepted, and they will figure out who is right there and who is not.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 18 June 2020 13: 28 New
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          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Amendments about God to the constitution will be accepted, and they will figure out who is right there and who is not.

          I greatly apologize, Comrade, but I could not even imagine in terrible dreams, I could not dream that all this would happen in my lifetime. I only read about obscurantism in books about the Middle Ages.
          1. DeKo
            DeKo 18 June 2020 13: 59 New
            -40
            Your comrades from the ATO fertilize the land of Donbass
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 18 June 2020 14: 35 New
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            Quote: Malyuta
            I greatly apologize, Comrade, but I could not even imagine in terrible dreams, I could not dream that all this would happen in my lifetime. I only read about obscurantism in books about the Middle Ages.

            It's only the beginning.
          3. Plastmaster
            Plastmaster 19 June 2020 07: 16 New
            +1
            By no means, the earth is flat. drinks
          4. Svarog
            Svarog 19 June 2020 17: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta
            . I only read about obscurantism in books about the Middle Ages.

            And we go back there .. straight back to the future ..
        2. Far B
          Far B 18 June 2020 13: 39 New
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          God, sitting in heaven and picking his nose, is slightly hardened by all this fuss.
          1. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
            evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 19 June 2020 01: 15 New
            -18
            You are so bold about the Creator, Dalniy V. It is impudently rude. So even about the ordinary soldier-commander is not accepted so
            speak. No?
            Do you live in Russia? This country was baptized in the X century. ..On the Big Coat of Arms, the motto is: “God is with us!” Are these your ancestors? They left you with a large area, an excellent country, which included, for example, not only Ukraine, but also part of Poland, Finland ... As far back as the XNUMXth century, this Orthodox country, for example, was seriously planning the liberation of Constantinople. The Great Suvorov then said: ,, We are Russians! What a delight! We are Russian, God is with us!, We must know our History and be proud of the glorious deeds of our ORTHODOX ANCESTORS. In RI, it was considered abnormal not to be in confession for a year. The glorified Russian officers, generals lived an ordinary Christian life.
            About the conflict in the Urals. Ordinary Orthodox people in Russia and neighboring countries, VERY tired of the satanic antics of Russian-speaking ,, globalists ,,. Ordinary servants of Darkness, ordinary dirty tricks, spit in the soul, of the Russian People, imposing pentagrams and the notorious three sixes on goods and products, advertising on crosses at pharmacies, assign numbers to ordinary respectable citizens instead of names and surnames, exercise total control over a law-abiding population , at the same time, advertising, and, growing, crime. Who needs this, besides the villains? What is this for the sake of we should strive to ,, electronic concentration camp ,,? That's about the dispute in the Urals. And not only there. ,, Ordinary ,, dispute between the servants of God and the servants of Satan.
            It should be borne in mind that the home-grown Satanists do not shine with their minds and then ask them for the problems that Russia will certainly receive for trying to turn into a hydrogen sulfide brothel, it will not work. What is the demand for mentally retarded immoral types? What their such “pranks” lead to can be seen on the example of WWII. Giant ,, factories of death ,,, blood sampling from children, human skin - for leather goods ... Is this funny, Far B? Do people really need this all over and over again? Or will these, new, and fashionable Satanists certainly show tricks?
            1. Far B
              Far B 19 June 2020 01: 33 New
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              The Great Suvorov in the seventeenth century is, of course, strong, but I will not buy it. Try again.
              1. evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
                evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 19 June 2020 09: 34 New
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                Okay I will try. Just to benefit. You and Russia.
                On duty ,, creativity ,, engaged. Life is dynamic, not retirement.
                Common, technical, mistake - distracted, in a hurry, did not check the text, etc. etc. Yes, I think you yourself guessed. So, humor, just mock.
                The essence of what I have said is important, and not the little things like grammatical and other errors. I raise the topic over and over in my comments. Satanists are advancing! What is funny or funny? Honest people, like that father from the Urals, are sounding the alarm, warning the careless layman.
                There will be no tricks. O n and, globalists, Satanists - primitive, stupid, ruthless beast-like o rganizma.
                Why is the God-man called the Savior? Including because without Him geeks cannot cope. We open the Book of History and look. Here is the state, USSR, trying to defeat nemchuru with their allies. As soon as it started (and everything went wrong, it was not as fantasized) as we instantly remembered the Main thing. Already on July 3, 1941, Stalin ,, recalled ,, that we ,, brothers and sisters ,,. Soviet, atheistic, tankers instead of Bronstein’s pentagrams began to quickly depict white triangles with their tops up on towers, rhombs. ,, For identification ,,. Burning in a tank is not very pleasant. ,, Reaches ,, very quickly, if, you ride, on armored vehicles, which the enemy armor-piercing shell through and through, flashes ,,. ... On November 1941, XNUMX, standing on the podium of the mausoleum, Stalin ,, remembered, “Russian saints - Alexander Nevsky, Dmitry Donskoy. On airplanes, the icons of Brezhiya Mother were lifted into the skies over Moscow and Leningrad. Specific aircraft, specific crews, specific flight mission. Nervous? ,, It seemed, them, our ancestors?
                In the Kremlin, in 1941, they received Bishop Elijah, Archbishop of the Lebanese Mountains. He brought the will of Heaven to the leadership of the Union. We listened carefully, followed the recommendations. After the war he came again, received a prize ... It seemed? ,, got nervous ,,?
                Chuikov and his co-sufferers, seemed, the appearance of the Mother of God at Stalingrad in the autumn of 1942?
                What am I talking about? Yes, it was already in with, ,, passed ,,. Why again, seek adventure on your ... head ,,?
                Satanists, I say, homegrown, stupid, like traffic jams,. I won’t bring the country to good, I say
            2. Plastmaster
              Plastmaster 19 June 2020 07: 26 New
              +6
              Cool it turns out. Jews came, brought their faith, bribed (by the way on holidays, they eat something of Christ). Now this is the story. And who knows the story before the capture? Well, to top it off ... All that is happening on earth .... is from the Jews. They are sitting in governments. Denominations are only different. And the root is one, though trimmed
      4. Far B
        Far B 18 June 2020 13: 36 New
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        Fine) how is it according to Uvarov? Autocracy, Orthodoxy, nationality. We see a circus with autocracy in real time, now it is a circus with Orthodoxy. I wonder how the nationality will manifest itself. And she will show, because all the braces should be involved
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 18 June 2020 13: 40 New
          +9
          Quote: Far In
          I wonder how the nationality will manifest itself.

          And we will see how the vote will be.
          1. 30143
            30143 18 June 2020 22: 57 New
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            Everything will be a bunch, i.e. unanimous approval.
            The church was struck by the same processes as civil society.
            But obscurantism, really, became militant. And what is striking, in this forum, where there are a lot of self-sufficient and successful people, it was not a joke.
            It would be better if the flight to Mars or the Moon began to cook.
            And as for Ukraine, I can only notice one thing - the people, looking at the swarms of religion dealers, sent them to a specific address. And .... lost interest in going there.
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 19 June 2020 17: 26 New
            +8
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Far In
            I wonder how the nationality will manifest itself.

            And we will see how the vote will be.

            Yes, we won’t see anything .. everyone will draw .. I bet that more than 60% approve ..
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        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 18 June 2020 14: 38 New
          +6
          Quote: Far In
          I wonder how the nationality will manifest itself. And she will show, because all the braces should be involved

          The "nationality" of the pitchfork is slowly sharpening.
        3. Constructor68
          Constructor68 22 June 2020 14: 40 New
          -1
          Fine) how is it according to Uvarov? Autocracy, Orthodoxy, nationality. We see a circus with autocracy in real time, now it is a circus with Orthodoxy. I wonder how the nationality will manifest itself. And she will show, because all the braces should be involved

          Plus holy fools and clickers like you and this Malyuta pulled themselves up. The whole assembly laughing
    2. WILL
      WILL 18 June 2020 12: 57 New
      +7
      Yesterday I talked with a colleague from those places ... the information is very contradictory, both about the identity of the Abbot himself and about a rather small but close-knit group of people (you do not need to call them Cossacks) that helped him with the capture of the temple. Locals look at all this with Perplexity!
      1. stalki
        stalki 18 June 2020 13: 26 New
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        Yesterday I talked with a colleague from those places ... the information is very contradictory, both about the identity of the Abbot himself and about a rather small but close-knit group of people (you do not need to call them Cossacks) that helped him with the capture of the temple. Locals look at all this with Perplexity!

        If a person allowed himself to cross the line once, then this happens again. I do not know what kind of person he really is, but the entrance to church affairs must be closed. In order not to give the opportunity to bring discord. And then it does not even matter what his views are, even if we assume he is a "standard of virtue." Just suppose wink
      2. Gargantua
        Gargantua 18 June 2020 13: 34 New
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        Quote: ANIMAL
        Locals look at all this with Perplexity!

        What are you talking about? Are you the next daughter of a Sevastopol officer? More than 400 local residents came to defend, on whose money, by the way, it was built. Father Sergius is right, and everyone whom he did not please can go through the woods angry
        1. WILL
          WILL 18 June 2020 13: 49 New
          -9
          Quote: Gargantua
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Locals look at all this with Perplexity!

          What are you talking about? Are you the next daughter of a Sevastopol officer? More than 400 local residents came to defend, on whose money, by the way, it was built. Father Sergius is right, and everyone whom he did not please can go through the woods angry

          Will you poke your wife - if you have of course ... what are 400 local residents ??? Who counted them there, who said that they are local? The monastery is located 20 km from Yekaterinburg, a city with more than 2 million people, a nursery of such liberoids, the Yeltsin center is also in Ekat.
          Go the forest yourself - and take this Clown with you!
          And in general - a sense of impunity, from what is behind the monitor - can quickly evaporate, follow the words
      3. DenZ
        DenZ 18 June 2020 13: 44 New
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        On the Ekaterinburg portal e1.ru a whole selection of news on this topic. By the way, the police came to see if everything was in order in the monastery and found that everything was in order there was no violence. As for this Sergius, he is clearly not in himself, in my opinion, not only was his boss forbidden to serve him, but he also came to the women's monastery with his own rules. Pure schismatic, such a church itself will outlive itself. In general, there is little interesting, well, not a very healthy mentally priest, we are all people.
    3. snake
      snake 18 June 2020 13: 07 New
      -5
      Quote: Janek
      - the author .. is this a quote in plus or minus goes to the abbot?

      Mother Superior in plus. Prosecutor Poklonskaya - in the red. Because the abbess seemed to have switched to the "bright" side, having begun to profess the nyasha-prosecutor, and Poklonskaya spoiled karma by contacting the confessor of thieves in law.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 18 June 2020 13: 18 New
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        Cool at the Poklonsky confessor. Father Sergius, in the world - Nikolai Vasilievich Romanov, born in 1955, who lived in the city of Pushkino, Moscow Region, a graduate of the police school, in the mid-80s received two convictions. In 1985, the Pushkin City Court found him guilty under Part 2 of Article 211 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (“Violation of traffic safety rules that could result in bodily harm or death”) and part 3 of Article 89 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (“Theft of state or public property”), sentencing 4 years in prison. In 1986, the same court found him guilty under paragraphs "a", "g", "e" of article 102 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR ("Murder"), part 1 of article 144 ("Theft") and part 2 of article 146 ("Robbery" ), sentencing him to 13 years in prison (these data are confirmed by a certificate from the main information-analytical center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia).
        1. snake
          snake 18 June 2020 13: 20 New
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          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Cool at the Poklonsky confessor.

          Yes, and our patriarch is very "funny" ...
          1. Far B
            Far B 18 June 2020 13: 43 New
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            He was responsible for preferential import of alcohol and tobacco products in the 90s. Non-possessiveness? No, not heard.
            1. snake
              snake 18 June 2020 13: 47 New
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              So am I about the same ...
    4. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 18 June 2020 13: 30 New
      0
      What was this strange man sitting for? Who knows?
    5. Civil
      Civil 18 June 2020 14: 04 New
      -4
      Raskolnik, however! How can I keep and not let go. Every bonfire-headed slipper of barmales on the contents of the State Department.
    6. demo
      demo 18 June 2020 14: 17 New
      +9
      Around the laity one is curling, and around the clergyman - ten.
      This is the essence of what is happening.
      But by the way.
      "In addition, schema-sergeant Sergius criticized digital identity, collecting biometric data, calling it the path to the" satanic regime. "

      “In the database of Russian genetic data created on behalf of the president, the information will be depersonalized and depersonalized. Mikhail Kovalchuk, president of the Kurchatov Institute, assured this.
      The data will be collected in the data center of the institute, he specified, noting the importance of strict protection of this information by the state.
      “Obviously, all this information should be attributed to personal data specially protected by the state,” the scientist emphasizes.
      He also explained why such a base is needed. Knowledge of the human genome will provide an opportunity to lay the foundations for the formation of personalized medicine in the future, he explains.

      That's where the Kurchatov Institute (by the way, a very serious institution), and where is genetics?
      My question is: what is Kovalchuk doing here (from the galaxy of friends of GDP)? No other personalities were found?
      Why create a genetic database of Russians with those who treat Russians like cattle?

      That is exactly what this schema-speaker Sergius is talking about.
      "Satanic regime."
      1. Far B
        Far B 18 June 2020 14: 22 New
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        Or an electronic concentration camp. Big brother is watching you! Damn, Orwell should have been less genius.
        1. demo
          demo 18 June 2020 14: 24 New
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          You are right.
          We came to the very edge.
          Further, either the abyss or resistance.
          There can be no other way.
          1. Far B
            Far B 18 June 2020 14: 28 New
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            I do not know. I hope the resistance. Because otherwise fascism is already completely. But far from the fact that there will be resistance. After all, "we don’t want, as in ..."
            1. demo
              demo 18 June 2020 14: 31 New
              -5
              I heard a distant ringing that there will be mobile microwave installations for the quick elimination of all cameras both in cities and on Russian roads.
              Bam and charred skeleton.
              This is already resistance.
              And when used correctly, it can also damage the electronic system of a car, stationary computers in organizations, and much, much more.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 18 June 2020 18: 05 New
        +9
        Quote: demo
        That's where the Kurchatov Institute (by the way, a very serious institution), and where is genetics?

        EMNIMS, in dark times It’s nuclear scientists who “rooted” in domestic genetics.
        Now the Kurchatov Institute is collaborating with the State Research Institute of Genetics.
        Quote: demo
        That is exactly what this schema-speaker Sergius is talking about.
        "Satanic regime."

        Oh come on. The average person with his own hands voluntarily uploads so much information about his beloved to the network that no "electronic concentration camp" is needed. They themselves bring everything, they themselves put everything in open (or supposedly closed) access, and even boast. Almost all of us have inherited so much on the net that Big Brother already knows everything about us. smile
        1. demo
          demo 18 June 2020 19: 54 New
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          EMNIMS, in dark times, it was nuclear scientists who “rooted” in domestic genetics.
          Now the Kurchatov Institute is collaborating with the State Research Institute of Genetics.

          Your sclerosis is cheating on you.
          Genetics, until the end of the 40s - a corrupt girl of imperialism.
          Vavilov, a leading geneticist in the USSR, died in prison, and not in his office.
          Members of the CPSU (b) involved in genetics and cybernetics, who oversaw this area of ​​science, were repressed.
          Today's State Research Institute of Genetics does not come anywhere in contact with the Kurchatov Institute.
          There is no open data on the Internet.
          If you have information about the contacts of these two organizations, then share the link.
          For now, I emphasize for now, your comment is an empty concussion of the ether.
          It is not clear why you fit in with your comment.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 19 June 2020 09: 44 New
            +5
            Quote: demo
            Your sclerosis is cheating on you.
            Genetics, until the end of the 40s - a corrupt girl of imperialism.
            Vavilov, a leading geneticist in the USSR, died in prison, and not in his office.
            Members of the CPSU (b) involved in genetics and cybernetics, who oversaw this area of ​​science, were repressed.

            Sharagi. The same well-known Timofeev-Resovsky, who was arrested in 1945 in Germany, since 1947 worked on the profile in Chelyabinsk-70.
            The situation was the same with cybernetics - it was officially eradicated, and in closed design bureaus specialists worked closely to create “computers”.
            Quote: demo
            Today's State Research Institute of Genetics does not come anywhere in contact with the Kurchatov Institute.

            Are you talking about Federal State Budgetary Institution "State Research Institute of Genetics and Breeding of Industrial Microorganisms National Research Center "Kurchatov Institute"?
            http://genetika.ru/about/
            1. demo
              demo 19 June 2020 12: 26 New
              0
              Yes.....
              How did they not shove something into the Kurchatov Institute that deals with housing and communal services?
              Lavrov to help me, urgently!

              But seriously, it looks very gloomy.
              Initially, everything is built so that ordinary people do not figure it out.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 19 June 2020 18: 37 New
                +4
                Quote: demo
                How did they not shove something into the Kurchatov Institute that deals with housing and communal services?

                -You hang a flashlight on my forehead! Lamp! To mow at night could!
                © smile
            2. evgen1221
              evgen1221 20 June 2020 10: 42 New
              +1
              We in the USSR had different interpretations of cybernetics - at that time, cybernetics was from the field of alternative history today, and therefore could not bring real benefits, but as for computers it was called differently and we created the first PC in Europe however. And Vavilov from the same series, his works did not help, not here and not now, and life money was being pulled well and how it came to questions and where the benefits of his work were, the genius was blown away right away.
            3. KVIRTU
              KVIRTU 21 June 2020 19: 05 New
              0
              I would not quote the calculator. He himself served on technology with SV-4-01, 91 onwards A special calculator, i.e., such as on the Buran, for example. Modern CVCs consist of dozens of computers based on Elbrus. For sonar, radar, air defense systems which. The playstation is the same calculator - a platform sharpened for 1 narrow task, universal computers lose in speed.
              And in those days, the task of universality, home, office PC, was simply not posed.
      3. Svarog
        Svarog 19 June 2020 17: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: demo
        That is exactly what this schema-speaker Sergius is talking about.
        "Satanic regime."

        That’s said .. you will find out by deeds .. and see that it is so .. hi
    7. Comrade Michael
      Comrade Michael 18 June 2020 15: 11 New
      +3
      So what? I have not seen and heard about the obedient workers of this organization ...
    8. Vicontas
      Vicontas 18 June 2020 19: 18 New
      +5
      Citizen Romanov, as an admirer of Mr. Romanov, popularly called Nikolashka the Bloody (and rightly) does not cause sympathy! So let them take him by storm and knock on the body - maybe the brains will fall into place! And maybe they will earn!
    9. Obi-Wan Kenobi
      Obi-Wan Kenobi 19 June 2020 07: 07 New
      +5
      This whole story is completely muddy.
      Former cop who served 13 years. For "just like that" 13 years do not give.
      Now he has become a priest and spiritual mentor of bandits, sorry, respected people.
      Quote:
      The Sredneuralsky Convent in honor of the Icon of the Blessed Virgin Mary “The Sporelitel of Breads”, located 10 kilometers from Yekaterinburg, was founded by Sergius himself and built, first of all, with the help of his flock. Therefore, Sergius considers himself in full right to be in a monastery, which, perhaps, would not have opened without his participation. Today, the monastery has its own agricultural complex, workshops, that is, it can exist offline.

      This is with the help of what kind of "his flock", he shook it all off? Where did he get all this from?
      For money, lads? Those. to stolen?
      No, during the USSR there was no such mess. Each minister of worship knew his place.
    10. kaban7
      kaban7 19 June 2020 18: 50 New
      +1
      From the point of view of the church, this does not mean anything at all. Who should be interested in his spiritual student in the secular life of a mentor, as far as I know ...
    11. Normal ok
      Normal ok 19 June 2020 19: 10 New
      -3
      Quote: Janek
      "Interestingly, at one time Sergius was the confessor of the recently deceased kingpin Timur Mirzoev (Timur Sverdlovsky)"
      - the author .. is this a quote in plus, or in the minus goes to the abbot ??

      Question to the point.
  2. Clear
    Clear 18 June 2020 12: 47 New
    +6
    Cossacks, shiigumen occupied the Central Urals Monastery, expelling the abbess.

    I always thought that real Cossacks do not offend women
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 18 June 2020 12: 52 New
      14
      Ordinary mummers
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 18 June 2020 12: 54 New
      +7
      Kakby and the father and his Cossacks soon did not regret that they did not go to the capture of the monastery ... smile
    3. TAMBU
      TAMBU 18 June 2020 16: 06 New
      +2
      but read the history of the Civil War ... about Kolchak, for example ... there are many interesting stories about the Cossacks ...
    4. bk0010
      bk0010 18 June 2020 16: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: Clear
      I always thought that real Cossacks do not offend women
      Then you better study this issue: you can get into trouble (all of a sudden it reminds me of: spanking wives, selling bored wives)
      1. Clear
        Clear 19 June 2020 10: 24 New
        -2
        Quote: bk0010
        Quote: Clear
        I always thought that real Cossacks do not offend women
        Then you better study this issue: you can get into trouble (all of a sudden it reminds me of: spanking wives, selling bored wives)

        So this is not a Cossack. If the Cossacks used to have a difficult life, then they should be especially responsible for getting married. Who will help him if not his wife?
    5. Svarog
      Svarog 19 June 2020 17: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: Clear
      Cossacks, shiigumen occupied the Central Urals Monastery, expelling the abbess.

      I always thought that real Cossacks do not offend women

      Yes, they bring them up .. sometimes with rods ..
      1. Clear
        Clear 19 June 2020 17: 50 New
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Clear
        Cossacks, shiigumen occupied the Central Urals Monastery, expelling the abbess.

        I always thought that real Cossacks do not offend women

        Yes, they bring them up .. sometimes with rods ..

        Oh, Vladimir, how terrible you are, but at least one fact about
        Quote: Svarog
        bring up .. sometimes with rods ..
        ?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 19 June 2020 17: 57 New
          +5
          Quote: Clear
          Oh, Vladimir, how terrible you are, but at least one fact about

          Well, read Sholokhov .. I’m not formidable at all .. so that I would remove the veil from my eyes laughing I don’t see any distinctive feature in Cossacks, from an ordinary person, and those who today, I consider to be mummers ..
          1. Clear
            Clear 19 June 2020 18: 19 New
            -2
            Quote: Svarog
            Well, read Sholokhov ..

            Well, thank God, it means they clarified that it’s not
            Quote: Svarog
            bring up ..
            and that’s good.
        2. Molox
          Molox 19 June 2020 18: 02 New
          -2
          Quote: Clear
          Oh, Vladimir, how terrible you are, but at least one fact about

          Probably practiced .. laughing
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 18 June 2020 12: 48 New
    +9
    Madhouse on the road ... or rather in our penates.
    there must be humility and obedience ... but Shakespearean passions flare up or something else.
    Further ne lezem, our godless well ... the wrong nose.
  4. Alex66
    Alex66 18 June 2020 12: 53 New
    +1
    Instead of solving problems, you should simply ban talking. After all, the matter is most likely not only quarantine, it is the leadership of the church (as well as the country), Tserov expresses approval of the government’s course without saying a word across, parishioners are advised to turn the other cheek. We expect that the good shepherd is ready to give his flock for his flock. Sergius is ready, are others ready?
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 18 June 2020 17: 55 New
      0
      the good shepherd is ready to give his life for his flock. Sergius is ready, are others ready?
      But for the fact that the pastor is “good”, are you ready to give your life? Or did he say "give a tooth" to you?
  5. imrek_ua
    imrek_ua 18 June 2020 12: 54 New
    +5
    In the top photo, the character looks not so much like a priest, but like Koshchei the Immortal.
  6. Galleon
    Galleon 18 June 2020 12: 57 New
    28
    If you step aside from the conflict of this person with your bosses and just look at him, one factor scratches with dissonance. Shihigumeny do not behave like that. Schema is a complete departure from the world. The schemnik does not even live in a monastery: in a remote monastery or in a separate cell - in a lock. He does not preach, does not profess, perhaps does not even serve to humble the liturgy himself, does not gather people around his person. I saw the skimmers on Athos in a Serbian monastery: they appeared in the general service and disappeared after it. Sergius does not refuse the world. What is it? It turns out that he took the schema for his authority, out of pride? How can a monk and pride get along together? And so it may be that he went to such a split. And his judgments about the coronavirus - some kind of childhood. They would take him and take him to the morgue at the infectious diseases hospital. Although, in his zealous position, this will not help, he is already blind. Or too cunning.
    I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my reasoning. This is an attempt to look at the situation spiritually soberly, without emotions.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 18 June 2020 13: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: Galleon
      What is the result?

      Pure sectarianism, false old age.
      Romanov, confusing people, he needs to pray intensely and in solitude, and he rallies.
      1. Clear
        Clear 18 June 2020 13: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Galleon
        Although, with his zealous position, this will not help, he is already blind. Or too cunning.

        Quote: bober1982
        Quote: Galleon
        What is the result?

        Pure sectarianism, false old age.
        Romanov, confusing people, he needs to pray intensely and in solitude, and he rallies.

        All this is unfortunate for the laity
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 18 June 2020 14: 02 New
          -4
          Saint Ignatius Brianchaninov, in his Ascetic experiments, the article "On Monasticism" clearly explained all the problems that laymen have when they leave for the monastery.
          Father Sergius apparently inattentively read the works of our great Hierarch.
    2. Alex66
      Alex66 18 June 2020 14: 39 New
      +5
      It sometimes happens that the schemers enter the battle Peresvet and Oslyabya with the blessing of Sergius of Radonezh took part in the Kulikovo battle, and did not sit in the cell.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 18 June 2020 15: 33 New
        +9
        That is what you said - with blessing. But in no way by gag. Sergius of Radonezh was already a saint, but he didn’t accept the schema - people kept it, could not leave them and leave. Compare the two personalities themselves, you yourself mentioned two Sergievs - Radonezhsky.
        1. Alex66
          Alex66 19 June 2020 06: 25 New
          +4
          What to do if the problems of the church, the church does not bless to discuss? I hope you won’t deny that the Russian Orthodox Church has problems, turning more and more into a Catholic one, not unlike the EP or CPSU party. A good shepherd should be ready to give his life for his flock.
    3. Rusty General
      Rusty General 18 June 2020 18: 05 New
      +1
      "This is an attempt to look at the situation spiritually and soberly, without emotion."

      Probably they don’t become cheaters just like that. It’s not so easy to get this status.
      It is necessary to obtain the consent of the higher clergy.
      A person who has become a schema-mona is no longer a person as such, with his ambitions, etc.
      They put it in reproach - they say he was sitting, a felon.
      Well, and with Christ who was near and went to Paradise with him? Are killer and thief repentant?

      Events are developing very interestingly. Highly.
      How will the power behave?

      Here's a video where Sergius Romanov denies a pandemic:
      https://yandex.ru/video/preview/?filmId=16714975324650857912&text=схиигумен%20сергий%20романов%20википедия&path=wizard&parent-reqid=1592492018664849-433384324544320889100303-production-app-host-man-web-yp-268&redircnt=1592492027.1

      Here is the video where Sergius Romanov conducts the rite of exorcism:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpzGEQBx2b4

      Interview:
      https://www.znak.com/2020-06-17/shiigumen_sergiy_dal_pervoe_intervyu_i_obyasnil_svoy_konflikt_s_rpc

      Who are the schemers:
      https://proreligiu.club/spravochnik/terminy/shima.html
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 18 June 2020 18: 40 New
        +3
        Quote: Rusty General
        Events are developing very interestingly. Highly.
        How will the power behave?

        Nothing interesting, he is not the first, and he is not the last.
        Quote: Rusty General
        Here is the video where Sergius Romanov conducts the rite of exorcism

        Only a few can cast out demons, and only with the blessing of the bishop, one should keep clear of such "nuggets" as Romanov.
    4. Svarog
      Svarog 19 June 2020 17: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Galleon
      I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my reasoning. This is an attempt to look at the situation spiritually soberly, without emotions.

      I agree, a very logical conclusion and a very observant approach hi
  7. knn54
    knn54 18 June 2020 13: 01 New
    +8
    - served many years in prison.
    All the same, the psyche is broken.
  8. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 18 June 2020 13: 03 New
    +5
    All human sins (crimes) have motives (intent): self-interest (personal enrichment and power, which opens up great opportunities) or a sense of revenge.
    People with a church rank, beginning from the novice, are also not harmless.
    The criminal record is extinguished. Judging by the sentence of 13 years for the cop, a serious crime was committed. The question is whether the former convict himself sincerely repented.
    People with different motives go to serve people. Someone chooses military service, becomes a doctor, protects and heals. They also take church dignity in the hope of receiving a “warm place” - a good parish, or, on the contrary, believes and shares their faith (does not impose), listens, gives advice, and helps.
  9. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 18 June 2020 13: 10 New
    +3
    Well, wait for the series were cops, now priests' wars))
  10. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 18 June 2020 13: 11 New
    0
    If our church is separated from the state, then there’s nothing for the police to go there. Let them understand.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 18 June 2020 13: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      If our church is separated from the state, then there’s nothing for the police to go there. Let them understand.

      Yeah winked there will be an operational duty officer of the police, upon receipt of the message, flipping through the Constitution and finding in it that
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      our church is separated from the state
      wassat happy to send the applicant on an erotic journey.
      Then he must do the same when reporting the theft of, for example, church utensils yes
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 18 June 2020 14: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Terenin
        send the applicant on an erotic journey.

        Why is it criminal? The founder of the monastery sent on this journey his superiors, who fired him, and works in the sweat of his face. Probably free. laughing
        Quote: Terenin
        he must do the same when reporting the theft of, for example, church utensils

        I would do so. The church does not pay taxes, does not contain the police, why should they look for junk?
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 18 June 2020 18: 00 New
          +2
          No matter what, these are citizens of the Russian Federation. And it is from this position that one should relate to them
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 19 June 2020 00: 37 New
          +4
          That would not be
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          maybe
          and affirm (refute)
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Why is it criminal?
          the group must collect and bring to the attendant the verification materials ...

          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Church does not pay taxes
          a church, an organization no less muddy at least than some RAS or Gazprom.
          I don’t know what kind of church is in Yekaterinburg, but the Russian Orthodox Church pays taxes.
          These are social payments and personal income tax (those same 13%) from the salaries of priests, as well as all other officially organized workers.
          By the way, the Church does not have privileges on transport tax and excise taxes. Their commercial activities are fully taxed ...

          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          ... the church ... does not contain the police
          well, who would have thought belay
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 19 June 2020 03: 19 New
            -1
            Quote: Terenin
            These are social payments and personal income tax (those same 13%) from the salaries of priests, as well as all other officially organized workers.

            That's it, that social payments and personal income tax on salaries, and not property tax. When the priest has his personal property seized, then it is necessary to search, and when the church - nefig and move. IMHO.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 19 June 2020 10: 00 New
              +2
              Vladimir, here I am Taldych (from the Tatars. I repeat), that would not be
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              maybe

              и
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              IMHO
              Quote: Terenin
              the group must collect and bring to the attendant the verification materials ...
              a, the executor (official) to make a reasoned opinion (with references to the standards ...) which, in the order of supervision, will be approved (canceled) by the prosecutor. Well, you yourself know, this is "twice two ...", which you turn on the "fool" wink
    2. rotkiv04
      rotkiv04 18 June 2020 13: 49 New
      +3
      It is formally separated, looking at when they show how the former chekist is beating his head and frantically baptized, and now the guarantor of the Constitution doubts that it is separated
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      2. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 14: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: rotkiv04
        looking at when they show how he beats his head and crosses frantically

        And drop the link, I also want to see how the head is beating and frantically ...
    3. balunn
      balunn 18 June 2020 14: 42 New
      +2
      Send church guards there laughing
  11. Ngauro
    Ngauro 18 June 2020 13: 15 New
    -2
    don't give a damn about these Orthodox idiots
    1. Clear
      Clear 18 June 2020 13: 40 New
      +3
      Quote: NGAURO
      don't give a damn about these Orthodox idiots

      Alexey, don’t have to, the spit will return
      1. Ngauro
        Ngauro 18 June 2020 21: 10 New
        +1
        From whom will he return? From their full-time god? Which can't stop the hand that rips open the baby’s belly?
        1. Clear
          Clear 19 June 2020 10: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: NGAURO
          Which can't stop the hand that rips open the baby’s belly?

          And only a person kills and stops the killing. God has nothing to do with it.
  12. Clear
    Clear 18 June 2020 13: 17 New
    +2
    Everyone is tired and want good to each other, but unfortunately it turns out
    dramatic events unfolded.
  13. Shopping
    Shopping Mall 18 June 2020 13: 18 New
    14
    Father Sergius, in the world - Nikolai Vasilievich Romanov, born in 1955, who lived in the city of Pushkino, Moscow Region, a graduate of the police school, in the mid-80s received two convictions. In 1985, the Pushkin City Court found him guilty under Part 2 of Article 211 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (“Violation of traffic safety rules that could result in bodily harm or death”) and part 3 of Article 89 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR (“Theft of state or public property”), sentencing 4 years in prison. In 1986, the same court found him guilty under paragraphs "a", "g", "e" of article 102 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR ("Murder"), part 1 of article 144 ("Theft") and part 2 of article 146 ("Robbery" ), sentencing to 13 years in prison. In the early 2000s, he was accused of seizing the land of Sergei Krekov farm.



    Police officer - killer - thief - robber - raider - priest. Maybe it’s time for him to become a judge, deputy or sovfed?
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 18 June 2020 13: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: AVM
      Police officer - killer - thief - robber - raider - priest.

      A multifaceted personality. He still got Thomas from the Turks. Toli Sergius, Toli Filaret, Toli Gapon. hi
  14. iouris
    iouris 18 June 2020 13: 19 New
    -2
    This is not "near Yekaterinburg", it is in the souls and in the minds (and whoever does not have it - in the spinal cord). Played out in the state religion.
  15. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 18 June 2020 13: 40 New
    +2
    Poklonskaya and Sergius, two boots - sneakers
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 18 June 2020 14: 14 New
      11
      Do not tell. The State Duma amicably rises and applauds the worst enemies of Russia. Only one deputy does not get up - Natalya Poklonskaya sits, defiantly turned away from the Americans.
      On July 19, 2018, the State Duma adopted an unpopular government bill to raise the retirement age in Russia. The initiative of the federal authorities was supported by 328 deputies, 104 parliamentarians voted against.
      All members of the United Russia faction in the hall agreed with the project, except one, who did not press this button. More precisely, we are talking about one thing - the head of the commission for monitoring the reliability of information on income and property of deputies Natalya Poklonskaya.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 18 June 2020 20: 50 New
        +4
        Haypanula without pressing a button.
        And what can you say about the effectiveness of Poklonskaya’s work as the head of the commission, did she catch many deputies of criminals?
        1. Igor Polovodov
          Igor Polovodov 21 June 2020 13: 37 New
          0
          Who will allow her ...
          And many facts are probably not for wide publicity ...
  16. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 18 June 2020 13: 45 New
    -5
    Pasha Datsyuk is also there, Father Sergius is his confessor, but in general the elder is certainly right, but I think Kirill’s officials will peck him, the top of the Russian Orthodox Church is too corrupt
  17. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 June 2020 13: 47 New
    -3
    Sergius accepted the Great Schema, having renounced all worldly things, and it is up to him to decide whether or not to quarantine. And naturally, he will not observe it, and for which he was forbidden to serve if he did not violate anything. He violated only the order of power, and not church laws. "The adoption of schema, or the great schema, according to the understanding of the Church, is nothing but the highest promise of the Cross and death, it is the image of the most complete estrangement from the earth, the image of making and offering the belly, the image of death and the predestination of another, heavenly life. ”Sredneuralsky Convent was founded by Sergius himself and built, first of all, with the help of his flock. And then the police are connected and they want to file a lawsuit.
    Let the holy people live as they want, they do nothing against man and against God.
    1. RMT
      RMT 18 June 2020 14: 21 New
      +8
      Let me disagree. What sanctity of Sergei Romanov are you talking about? What miracles did he do? The construction of the monastery began by decision of the Yekaterinburg diocese, and with its influence, farmer Krekov "chopped off" part of the land for the monastery. Krekov sued until 2019! And in the end, he won the trial.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 18 June 2020 15: 06 New
        +6
        Quote: RMT
        What sanctity of Sergei Romanov are you talking about?

        I do not see anything about holiness.
        1. RMT
          RMT 18 June 2020 15: 16 New
          -1
          tihonmarine ... Let holy people live as they want, they do nothing against man and against God ....
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 18 June 2020 16: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Sergius accepted the Great Schema, having renounced all worldly things, and it is up to him to decide whether or not to quarantine.
      Schemes do not possess antiviral properties, and its quarantine affects other people, so it is not up to him to decide (well, unless, of course, he has gone into the desert).
  18. VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 18 June 2020 14: 23 New
    +4
    In the absence of a coherent domestic policy and ideology, it would be strange if this did not happen.
    It will reach fires ...
  19. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 14: 24 New
    +3
    Oops! Here is the news. But I personally know him. When the monastery was being built, expanded, a separate church was specially erected specifically for the Icon of the Blessed Virgin Mary, “Batter's Browners” ... I always did all the surveys for these projects. Then the abbess was Varvara's sister, and they had a rather close interaction. Did he expel her? Need to call ask. I did not know that he was the spiritual father of Grandfather Hassan ... He baptized my godson ...
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 14: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: AllXVahhaB
      Barbara's sister

      sorry ... sister Vasilisa.
  20. Diviz
    Diviz 18 June 2020 14: 35 New
    -9
    To unite this father with the Rodnovers. To put it mildly, the nuances of outlook on life are different for them, but the common thing is religious and the goal is to protect the interests of ordinary Christians and Rodnover. Gold and Mercedes they do not need. Spiritual Knowledge is power.
    1. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 17: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: DiViZ
      To unite this father with the Rodnovers. To put it mildly, the nuances of outlook on life are different for them, but the common thing is religious and the goal is to protect the interests of ordinary Christians and Rodnover. Gold and Mercedes they do not need. Spiritual Knowledge is power.

      Firstly. Not knowing personally how you know what is what to him, and what is to what?
      Secondly. Orthodox father and Rodnover? Common cause??? belay Are you sane at all?
      1. Diviz
        Diviz 18 June 2020 18: 10 New
        -3
        And that we will live separately. There are many problems. Threats too. It is necessary to unite. There is no Thomas. And everyone is silent at least said something. And they all do. That everything is fine. And I want to tell you this, it all begins. We must move in our own way - historical.
        1. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 18: 19 New
          +4
          What Thomas? What are you talking about??? Do you at least understand something in the Russian Orthodox Church? But in Christianity in general? And in his attitude to paganism?
          1. Diviz
            Diviz 18 June 2020 19: 37 New
            -4
            You tell the Ukrainian Orthodox Church!
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 19: 39 New
              +2
              Quote: DiViZ
              You tell the Ukrainian Orthodox Church!

              What does Ukraine have to do with it ??? Aw !!! We are talking about РПЦ! Father Sergius from near Yekaterinburg !!!
  21. AleBors
    AleBors 18 June 2020 14: 50 New
    +3
    Yeah ... In the 90s and early 2000s, they just didn’t ordain. There was a lack of priesthood. The basis of the life of an Orthodox Christian is humility. Here are such as about. Sergius discredit the Church. You can disagree with the official position of the Russian Orthodox Church, but you must humble yourself and serve the people.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 18 June 2020 16: 21 New
      +5
      hi In my opinion, the church has long been discredited itself .. Especially in a showdown with property ...
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 22 June 2020 10: 23 New
        0
        It is only in your opinion
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 18: 12 New
      -1
      Quote: AleBors
      Yeah ... In the 90s and early 2000s, they just didn’t ordain. There was a lack of priesthood. The basis of the life of an Orthodox Christian is humility. Here are such as about. Sergius discredit the Church. You can disagree with the official position of the Russian Orthodox Church, but you must humble yourself and serve the people.

      And what does the 90s have to do with it? Remind me who the apostles were? Who is the robber, who is the tax collector ... And what?
      So he serves people without a break for coronavirus)))
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 28 July 2020 08: 50 New
        0
        There are certain rules in the Church. A person with the past of Father Sergius has no right to be a priest. And the coronavirus has nothing to do with it. Although I am also against the closure of churches and the mockery of the Eucharist.
        1. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 31 July 2020 05: 46 New
          0
          And where are these rules spelled out? You confuse with worldly life, where a person with an extinguished criminal record in a normal company will not let the Security Council pass. I knew the priest, who took such a walk in the dashing 90s! I even sat on a needle ...
          1. AleBors
            AleBors 3 August 2020 09: 10 New
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            These rules are written by the Church. And your friend, if he hasn't killed anyone, can be a priest, if he has sincere repentance. And then, do you know who Opty was? And who entered heaven first?
            1. AllXVahhaB
              AllXVahhaB 9 August 2020 13: 03 New
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              Quote: AleBors
              There are certain rules in the Church. A person with the past of Father Sergius has no right to be a priest.

              Quote: AleBors
              These rules are written by the Church.

              Bring the document! Where it is written???
              1. AleBors
                AleBors 9 August 2020 16: 37 New
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                Murder, willful or unintentional, precludes the possibility of ordination. According to the 66th apostolic canon, the cleric who committed the murder is subject to eruption. This also means that the one who committed the murder cannot be admitted to the clergy. “The shedding of human blood is a decisive moment for a clergyman, regardless of the circumstances and motives that caused this shedding, and mainly because the shedding of human blood is in decisive conflict with the service performed by a priest in general, the main action of which is the offering of the Bloodless Sacrifice in the sacrament The Eucharist ".
  22. parusnik
    parusnik 18 June 2020 15: 04 New
    +3
    Hmm ... "Under Stalin, this was not" smile But something was under tsarism in Tsaritsin ... Serega Trukhanov, it seems he was stirring up water .. I will make a reservation that I don’t want to compare anyone ...
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 18 June 2020 15: 51 New
      +1
      Yes, under Stalin, "zeroing" would be from a machine gun. Although, under Khrushchov, this was observed, nevertheless socialism is called. All for the working people.
  23. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 18 June 2020 15: 06 New
    +1
    Perhaps he has a strong spirit and he truly believes in God, one of the few ... I am an atheist. But I think the inner strength and sincere faith in my ideas are worthy of respect, especially in comparison with the spineless and spineless jelly that our fellow citizens have turned into ... It would be a pity if he leaves for complete nonsense or simply breaks under the pressure of the system.
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 15: 17 New
      +4
      It’s strange to read this from an atheist.
      Faith is strong because it does not conform to the facts.
      If one takes into account the facts, then this is knowledge, not faith, but knowledge as a product of the analysis of facts, by definition, cannot be solid and unchanging.
      1. Comrade Michael
        Comrade Michael 19 June 2020 11: 06 New
        -1
        The guy has a core and leadership qualities. And a little crazy. There are few of them in our gray world. The majority of the population has neither eggs nor brains ..
  24. TAMBU
    TAMBU 18 June 2020 16: 02 New
    +1
    an excellent question about the ownership of church utensils from spoons to the ground ... and this is just the beginning of a bicker ...
  25. BAI
    BAI 18 June 2020 17: 07 New
    +2
    Why a convent? Is it more convenient for peasants to withstand a siege in a convent?
  26. BAI
    BAI 18 June 2020 17: 15 New
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    who sharply criticized the church leadership because of the ban on visiting churches during the period of self-isolation,

    MORON.
    In the Trinity Lavra of St. Sergius, they allowed visiting and service on Easter. Everyone had a splash of disease. Father Germogen died (he who understands church affairs knows who it is) and the head doctor of the Lavra Hospital (they have their own hospital and the head doctor with a church rank). But how many privates are not known at all; they were in church and secular hospitals. The Central District Hospital (CRH) of Sergiev Posad is still closed due to co-morbid patients, and the head doctor of the CRH said in an interview that it would not be open in the near future.
    For that they prayed for Easter.
    By the way, why did you choose a nunnery to capture? Is it more convenient for peasants to keep their defense in a convent?
    1. Freedim
      Freedim 18 June 2020 17: 52 New
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      Quote: BAI
      Is it more convenient for peasants to keep their defense in a convent?

      In the male, they would give n # $ @ s, but in the female there is no (in both senses) :)
    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 18 June 2020 18: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: BAI
      By the way, why did you choose a nunnery to capture? Is it more convenient for peasants to keep their defense in a convent?

      Read the text though? He founded and built this monastery. By the way, I did engineering surveys there ...
      1. Avior
        Avior 18 June 2020 23: 01 New
        -5
        And who paid?
        Did he personally finance?
      2. BAI
        BAI 21 June 2020 10: 18 New
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        Have you read the text though?

        Naturally read. Yes, nevermind who was building. If you built a women's bath, then what - to capture a women's bath? And, in general, why did the peasant establish a convent, and not a man?
        1. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 21 June 2020 10: 41 New
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          Quote: BAI
          Naturally read. Yes, nevermind who was building. If you built a women's bath, then what - to capture a women's bath? And, in general, why did the peasant establish a convent, and not a man?

          Not built, but основал! He is the confessor of the monastery. In all nunneries, the confessor is a man, since the abbess, old women, and mentors cannot confess and atone for sins in the temple. Canon is like that!
          But I'm not going to throw beads further. You, for starters, at least get acquainted with the topic. And without this, talk only about what you understand, about women's baths, for example ...
          1. Vladimir Kiev
            Vladimir Kiev 22 June 2020 00: 45 New
            -1
            I don’t even know whether to rejoice that there are REALLY people who believe in the 21st century or to become discouraged ...
            From the Russian Orthodox Church itself, everything is clear, business and nothing personal. They said - to close the temples and closed. Although the losses are terrible Yes, and even on Easter. And this one believes that his god is and will save and protect him. At least - an honest position, and the words do not differ from the deed. I don’t discuss methods - I don’t have enough reliable information: maybe pure raiding is also a “feat for the glory of Christ”.
            I myself am an atheist. Convinced. But somehow it’s even unsportsmanlike to conduct a discussion with the faithful after their main clergy “took the visor” and the churches are closed, but this one isn’t fighting like ....
            By the way, here I have a question - they want to enter God into the Constitution of the Russian Federation .... Why was it clarified to write which one ???
            Our ancestors worshiped different ...
            So who will it be ?? Perun, Svarog or Jehovah ??
            Confusion in the main law of the country can come out and misunderstandings ....
  27. domashniy domovoy
    domashniy domovoy 18 June 2020 17: 58 New
    -2
    Pop Gapon 21 Century
  28. AnderS
    AnderS 18 June 2020 18: 37 New
    -1
    What a twist! A religious leader with a criminal-cop past, sensed the weakness of his bosses-huckster from religion and arranged a raider seizure of the monastery with the involvement of sympathetic "Cossacks". We stock up on popcorn, see how it ends!
  29. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 18 June 2020 21: 16 New
    -1
    Secular state laughing
    A robber and a murderer with an "organized group of people" seizes a "public institution", publicly calls for riots, insults the authorities, etc.
    And nobody touches him laughing
    Well, just "good" in a shawl laughing
  30. Ham
    Ham 19 June 2020 10: 34 New
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    sectarians and fanatics were always and at all times
    well, even though they locked themselves in the monastery, they didn’t send bombs to blow up the glory of God ...
    we have enough religious radicals
  31. Maxim364364
    Maxim364364 19 June 2020 13: 00 New
    -1
    Too pisukasty to me, too, the nunnery captured, hera. Was male weak to capture?
  32. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 19 June 2020 13: 34 New
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    This proves once again that we are all people, including ministers of the church, so if I go to the temple, then to pray to God, and I’m not going to kiss their hands!
    Well, as in one "bottle" and a policeman and Zeka and Holy Father Sergius! Nonsense really!
  33. Tavrik
    Tavrik 19 June 2020 15: 51 New
    +1
    It seems to me that this is a dispute between business entities.
  34. Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 19 June 2020 16: 00 New
    +1
    The article is too short for it to be able to say competently who is right and who is to blame, but nevertheless, the abbot-man to capture the nunnery with the help of the Cossacks does not look somewhat comme il faut. Unless, of course, the capture was not agreed with Mother Superior. In this case, the ground for speculation is completely vast.
  35. Molox
    Molox 19 June 2020 18: 12 New
    +1
    There are many freaks in Russia ... I can’t say anything else! Now the ROC will again start to poison and demons have fun ..
  36. Normal ok
    Normal ok 19 June 2020 19: 47 New
    -2
    Since the confrontation of the money-grubbers (Joseph Volotsky) and non-money-gonders (Neil Sorsky), disputes have continued in Russia about whether the church should be a moral authority or a political / economic force.
  37. serggb
    serggb 19 June 2020 20: 14 New
    -1
    It is very similar to that: the dude was drinking. Then he was imprisoned for something. Stopped drinking. The head cleared up - this is not an instant for anyone who quits drinking !!! Well, I decided that he, oh, how spiritual and intelligent. "Clever" to the point that even now all the other lectures can teach ... But, simply, did this Sergey not try to become normal?
  38. monster
    monster 20 June 2020 12: 02 New
    -1
    Release the Dominicans! Heresy will burn in flames! am
  39. Fishery
    Fishery 21 June 2020 10: 27 New
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    fighting monks share food sources)))