In Ukraine, showed the results of the RCC "Neptune" in the target ship

The next tests of the anti-ship missile of the RK-360MTs Neptune missile system were held in Ukraine. According to Ukrainian media, this time the rocket was tested with an equipped warhead.

Traditionally, the firing of the complex was carried out at the state test site of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Alibey" in the Odessa region, the tests were successful, the missile hit the target.

Previous tests were carried out with an inert missile warhead, and in April, the first launch was carried out with an active homing radar mounted on the rocket (ARLGSN). Prior to this, all tests were conducted without a homing head.

ZhK-360 MTs - a complex of ground-based cruise missiles with the anti-ship missile R-360 is designed to destroy and destroy warships of the cruiser, destroyer, frigate, corvette, landing, tank landing ships and transports (...) and coastal radio-contrast targets, in simple and complex meteorological conditions at any time of the day or year, with active fire and electronic countermeasures of the enemy

- the message of the Ukrainian military portal says.

According to available information, Kiev intends to complete the tests by the end of the second quarter of this year and put into service at least three divisions of the Neptune LCD-360MC complexes. Large-scale missile production is planned to be deployed at the Pavlogradsky Chemical Plant NPO GP in the near future.

Recall that previously the former secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov called the Neptune complex “the destroyer of the Crimean bridge”. According to him, Ukrainian missiles in a few minutes can destroy the bridge connecting the Crimea with the mainland.

Comments

[gabonskijfront]

Nothing, maybe they fired a canister with a solarium there. It does not look like a missile strike.

[vkl.47]

All this is not good.

[WILL]

Six Seconds - Really Nothing Understood! Yes, and the news is kind of scanty ... if they were testing ... then from what medium, at what range ???
In short - News does not contain content, from the word Absolutely!

[alexmach]

In the sense that it does not carry? not later than a couple of months ago, the jingoistic patriots shouted "test in milk until they show a hit, I will not believe it." Well, that showed the hit.
The next argument was that they would not be able to produce it - well, something seems to me that the promised 3 divisions will be able to 100%.
The next stage is equipping ships with this missile.

[yfast]

Is that what she flew a couple of months and now got?

[alexmach]

Oh how funny that is. Laugh further, life is adding.

[Johann Klassen]

And what are you, my general, trying to say?
Well, they made an "anti-ship missile".
So what?
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have the ability to destroy targets on which Alexander Kogan will place complexes with the Neptune anti-ship missile system.
And you pull us for one place, trying to make us cry.
Or do you call for repentance and surrender, before A. Kogan?

[alexmach]

And what are you, my general, trying to say?
Well, they made an "anti-ship missile".
So what?

Nothing more than what I have already said. They made this fact, for some reason, obvious not to everyone, but I do not answer all of these.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have the ability to destroy targets on which Alexander Kogan will place complexes with the Neptune missile defense system.

For example, a fraudulent sofa cap that was handed over to your personal disposal?

Or do you call for repentance and surrender, before A. Kogan?

But do not bother to indicate where I called for this? What did you draw your inadequate conclusion from?

In fact, anything can be destroyed in principle, but this does not at all cancel the fact that Ukraine is building muscles as it can, and yet it can even do something in the state in which it is. For example, it can completely complicate both military and economic activities in the Black and Azov Seas. And this is reality, you want to close your eyes to it - well, for God's sake.

[mark2]

What did they show? On the video, I see that a rocket hit something. And that’s all. What and where is indicated that this is Ukrainian everything.
And on the photos I see an image
long-rusted iron in the area of ​​supposedly holes. There is a hole, but she appeared not this hour.

[alexmach]

There is a hole, but it appeared not this hour.

What does not suit you in the hole then? Lack of soot or what? Well, somehow it happened. Metal rust? well, so what did he have to clean up from the rust if he had to get it?

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

Well, that showed a hit.

Here's what a RCC hit with a warhead looks like

And here somehow it’s not quite similar.

[alexmach]

Well, they already wrote that there was nothing to burn in that target, there is no add-in to expand its picture too. And in general, to doubt that a fragment of an industrial and scientific power can create a rocket of a technological level of 40 years ago on a modern element base is somehow strange.

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

Well, they already wrote that there was nothing to burn in that target, there is no add-in to expand its picture too.

Any explosion, but it was written about a missile with warheads, leaves characteristic traces and an increase in temperature.

Quote: alexmach

a fragment of an industrial and scientific power will be able to create on a modern elemental base

This is the base that raises questions. Explosives are simple to make, a rocket as such is more difficult, but possible, but its "brains" are already a completely different level. As far as I know, they were not made in Ukraine and in the USSR. So where did they come from?

[alexmach]

As far as I know in Ukraine they were not made in the USSR either. So where did they come from?

Why didn't they do that? Radar heads for air-to-air missiles were made. Do you think they are somehow different on a conceptual level? Radar stations were made, and not only built, but also developed. And the "brains" as a whole did a lot for what.

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

Radar stations were made, and not just built, but also developed.

In SSSS, Luch is a developer of unified systems and complexes for automated monitoring and diagnostics of aircraft missiles and sea torpedoes, and not a developer of missiles.
Radionics - was founded in 2006.

[alexmach]

In SSSS, Luch is a developer of unified systems and complexes for automated control and diagnostics of aircraft missiles and sea torpedoes, and not a developer of missiles

And?

R-27 (According to NATO classification AA-10 Alamo) - Soviet [3] medium-range air-to-air guided missile, developed by Vympel GosMKB them. I.I. Toropova (Moscow). Issued by the company "Artem" (Kiev) and Vympel (Moscow)

Chain Mail is a Ukrainian automated passive radio intelligence station.
Serial production started in 1987.
Designer Kursk Military Institute of the GRU of the USSR, SEC “Topaz” (Donetsk, Ukraine)

This is only from what I have heard, but in Soviet times there was a "mailbox" at every plant, and at each of them they did something. My mother, for example, spent her entire adult life in the USSR for the defense industry only at one of the city’s most likely a dozen enterprises. And so in every city.

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

developed by the enterprise GosMKB "Vympel" them. I.I. Toropova (Moscow). Issued by the company "Artem" (Kiev)

This is what I mean - they were released in Ukraine, but the development is already the RSFSR.

Quote: alexmach

This is only from what I have heard, but in Soviet times there was a "mailbox" at every plant, and at each of them they did something.

I am aware, the question is what specifically was produced and developed. In the USSR, for Uranus, it was developed by the Radar MMS.

[alexmach]

You forgive me, but now, for example, even Iran produces anti-ship missiles with a radar homing system. Iran, which is under rather strict sanctions, and which has never been in the USSR.

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

Now, for example, even Iran produces

The whole question is the quality of what they produce. Let me give you an example - a drone as such can be made in a garage, literally, and it will not cost much. Our base in Syria is constantly trying to attack just like that. However, if you put next to it a drone, which is made at a military factory, and with the latest technology, the difference will be obvious.

[alexmach]

The whole question is as to what they produce

And most likely it will not be possible to really evaluate this quality before their application, neither in relation to this Neptune, nor to say, even to the X-35, despite the number of armaments and firing training conducted.

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

And most likely it is realistic to evaluate this quality before applying them

In other words:
"Practice is the criterion of truth."
This is certainly true, but this does not seem to be expected (and good), but it is hard to believe in the possibility of Ukraine.

[kupitman]

and which ships will they equip?
as far as I understand, the ship should be designed to use a rocket, in size they only fit Sahaidachny, but there is nowhere to put it. If only a deep modernization. But then it’s cheaper to build a new ship.

[alexmach]

as far as I understand the ship should be designed to use a rocket,

Well, or a rocket to equip existing ships, why not varinat?

in size they only fit Sahaidachny

Isn't that the same "priluki"? This neptune of Turmit is no bigger, moreover, his "dad" Uranus was specially developed for the re-equipment of old Soviet ships.

And there it will be seen. Maybe they will "screw" on the Islanders, maybe they will make their own RTOs. So far, of course, only the coastal complexes have been discussed.

[kupitman]

I think it’s long before the ships, the money is needed, but Ukraine does not have it from the word at all. There, 3 divisions still need to be built, they may not be able to master here, and as a result, stop at 1 or even a test batch. In general, we’ll see, but in any case the thing is dangerous, it is necessary to take it into account, and not to wave cowards

[alexmach]

In general, we’ll see, but in any case the thing is dangerous, it is necessary to take it into account, and not to wave cowards

I completely agree. Perhaps they will think about "missile-carrying aviation".
And about how many of them can actually be built - well, wait and see - we'll see. If 1 division is 6 TPU and 24 missiles, then 3 divisions get 72 missiles only on fully deployed carriers. This is not taking into account the TZM. It’s not completely clear why they need so much ...

[alexmach]

In addition, here's another nuance. Who had any anti-ship missiles in the Black Sea region before? except that the Turks. And now there are hostile anti-ship missiles, let's face it "in the rear."

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: alexmach

And now there are hostile anti-ship missiles in the rear.

So what? Well, let's say they inflict a missile strike, even let’s say on the Crimean bridge ... so what? Where will this lead and how will it end? Well, the Georgians struck Tskhinval and our peacekeepers ... And? Or will they strike a rocket to surrender immediately to feed them?

[alexmach]

Where will this lead and how will it end?

The destruction of what was hit (your captain is obvious). Moreover, this bridge was given to you, well, no one will use anti-ship missiles against the bridge, they will most likely use against the ship. How do you like the prospect of flooding the BDK with the landing ... for example, even an ICR or a frigate?

Well, the Georgians struck Tskhinval and our peacekeepers ... And? Or will they strike a rocket to surrender immediately to feed them?

Yeah .. or, for example, they will strike during a batch already taking place, well, for example, during active hostilities against a third country. Or they will inflict it as a shooter in unleashing a new large-scale conflict, counting on the support of the allies. Or they’ll just put it on and use it as an argument in carrying out provocations ... For example, they’ll delay another ship in the Sea of ​​Azov or they will go to the breakthrough again, trample to the oil platforms again, and in case of a force confrontation, their pelvis will cover the missiles . There are plenty of options, they will find and wait for such a moment when Russia will not be ready to strike, or simply will constantly draw upon itself forces to counter this threat.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: alexmach

Yeah .. or, for example, they will strike during a batch already taking place, well, for example, during active hostilities against a third country. Or they will inflict it as a shooter in unleashing a new large-scale conflict, counting on the support of the allies. Or they’ll just put it on and use it as an argument in carrying out provocations ... For example, they’ll delay another ship in the Sea of ​​Azov or they will go to the breakthrough again, trample to the oil platforms again, and in case of a force confrontation, their pelvis will cover the missiles . There are plenty of options, they will find and wait for such a moment when Russia will not be ready to strike, or simply will constantly draw upon itself forces to counter this threat.

Are you surely writing about Ukraine? Do not confuse with anyone? Something I did not notice and they have such a close level of strategic planning. Who will do this? All they are doing is cutting the dough and dividing the seats at the trough. All military operations in the Donbas, provocations in the strait and the like ... are purely applied in this division of money and power. They do not have a single command center, or common interests among the elites holding power ...

Quote: alexmach

they will find and wait for such a moment when Russia is not ready to strike,

Russia was as unprepared as possible for the events of 08.08.08. From all over the country "with the world on a string" they have collected what can shoot and drive ... and then almost half of the armored vehicles did not reach Tskhinvali and not because of combat losses! Have you seen those soldiers? In one subdivision, some in ankle boots, some in sneakers, some in kirzachs, camouflage, mismatched helmets, almost from the Great Patriotic War, no armor, no radios. Immediately there were some bearded Chechens ... Not an army, but some guerrilla formations ... And nevertheless it ended how it ended! What can I say about today ...

[alexmach]

Something I did not notice and they have such a close level of strategic planning. Who will do this?

Strategic planning? What would strike from under the silence choosing the right moment? Well, I do not know. Do you want to believe that you can’t decide or don’t guess when the right moment is for this. Above, there are still people who still believe that they will not make a rocket.

And nevertheless ended than ended! What can we say about today ...

Well, Ukraine is also not Georgia. And the situation in the world is now not the same.

[Bshkaus]

The coastal complexes based on KRAZ will be equipped, and the next stage was planned to be suspended from SU-24, but this is a long-term issue.

[kupitman]

there kraz threatened to close

[Bshkaus]

there kraz threatened to close

If you read the Russian Internet, then we have the whole of Ukraine as 6 years under the threat of closure.
Only the rocket over which we have been mocking here all this time she made.
The Bilhu complex was adopted, the "stugna" ATGM army was saturated so that they now burn everything that moves in the front-line zone. How much did you drink of vodka alone at the Antonov KB memorial service? And he quietly during this time replaced the Russian avionics, certified the aircraft with a new one and just last month resumed the serial production of ANs.
The plant will not go anywhere, maybe KRAZ-255B is no longer being done, well, they will establish the production of something else. At KAMAZ, we do not disdain to collect imported trucks under the KAMAZ brand.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: alexmach

The next stage is equipping ships with this missile.

And here in more detail: which ships?

[alexmach]

So wait and see.

[avg]

Quote: ANIMAL

In short - News does not contain content, from the word Absolutely!

The news mobilizes, recalls that you need not just to keep the gunpowder dry but to seriously prepare. And in the field of economics, it is high time to move on to action.

[Gargantua]

Quote: avg

The news mobilizes, recalls that you need not just to keep the gunpowder dry but to seriously prepare.

Alexander, relevant work has been ongoing since 2014. In close proximity to Ukraine, in addition to two army corps formed in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the Russian Federation deployed a powerful grouping along the border with Ukraine. There are approximately 80 thousand personnel, 900 tanks, more than a thousand artillery systems, more than 400 multiple launch rocket launchers and air force forces, which are quantitatively comparable with the air army. The naval group of the Black Sea Fleet has been significantly strengthened. Of course, Ukraine can launch one or another attack on our territories. But there is complete certainty (in Kiev, too) that the Russian Federation has the strength for a lightning crushing response. Everything will depend on the will of the country's political leadership.

[avg]

All that you have listed, I know very well, but I also see how the APU changes, how they impudent, how to restore and modernize equipment, set up the production of ammunition, and receive foreign assistance. This is not the same APU that in 2014 could not leave the park. And with economic measures, something incomprehensible is going on. They by hook or by crook receive our components, incl. to military equipment, our banks work there, we supply gas, coal, fuel and lubricants to Ukraine. Lukashenko has a margin between the purchase of oil from us and the sale of fuel and lubricants to Ukraine, this is generally the main business. In addition, Belarus supplies the Ukrainian army with weapons, military equipment, equipment and at the same time supports Ukrainian smuggling bypassing sanctions. After all, with all this you need to finish sometime, and not deal with a single boltology in the Minsk format. And here I agree with you -

Everything will depend on the will of the country's political leadership.

[Avior]

have long been tested for range.
shoot from a coastal mobile launcher

[Alexey from Perm]

do not underestimate the likely opponent

[Looking for]

To simulate a missile entering a target is an elementary task.

[sergo1914]

Did the target look different before hitting?

[novel66]

destruction of warships of the class cruiser, destroyer

battleship and aircraft carrier forgot ..

[seregin-s1]

And they forgot the bridge.)))

[antivirus]

no one has yet filmed, not shown cartoons as a dagger (or other missiles) Dneprogess penetrates. But you need to be afraid of stools.
and then they just yell "the destroyer of the Crimean bridge is ready ...."
water intakes throughout the outskirts will dry out if all dams are pierced

[Artunis]

To destroy the capital bridge requires about 20 hits of such missiles at one point, which is not realistic in practice. Dreamers! I'm not even talking about otvetka.

[Souchastnik]

pieces of 20 hits of such missiles are required

It is clear that such a flock will not be allowed to fly to the bridge. But damage to the metal structures of supports or spans will not lead to a change in strength and, at a minimum, to restrictions on the load (bridge capacity)?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Artunis

To destroy the capital bridge requires about 20 hits of such missiles at one point, which is not realistic in practice. Dreamers! I'm not even talking about otvetka.

Hardly anyone in real life is going to beat the bridge, there is enough conceptual theoretical possibility. As a result, we get a propaganda product for internal, mainly, use: they say, "we can crumble this bridge of theirs at any moment!"

[major147]

Quote: Kalmar

"We can crumble this bridge at any moment!"

Well, this is on condition that our troops will follow the ukrostrelboy "picking the nose."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kalmar

As a result, we get a propaganda product for internal, mainly, use: they say, "We can crumble this bridge of theirs at any moment!"

This is your answer and is true. Just propaganda for the people, "Look, Pug, you know she is strong if she barks at an elephant." And all together begin to jump. I've seen enough of these galloping state workers.

[Pavel57]

But how to provoke Russia to war is only a blow on the bridge.

[rotmistr60]

Turchinov called the Neptune complex "the destroyer of the Crimean bridge."

It is impossible to do without pomp and boasting, because this is obviously the "smartest and super-duper" rocket in the Ukrainian way. Interestingly, did the Ukrainian strategists figure out what and how many will arrive in response to their launch?

[whiteidol]

At least they will track the start and destroy the missile launch systems ..

[kamarada]

Bandera Ukrainians declared a warrior of Russia ,? announced. Is getting ready? So the Jews would have long been this enterprise that produces rockets would have been destroyed with the earth. But Vova is waiting for something. Tolerastitis?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

They shoot rockets at Jews every day, but do you propose declaring war on Ukraine only by what they did?

The production of missiles is expensive, let them spend resources in the void. Ukraine will not dare to attack any Russian targets, and if it does, it will be the end for them. Russia does not need to storm Ukraine from the sea, having a vast land border.

In relation to Ukraine, Russia has moved to the tactics of economic confrontation. It will be both more effective and more useful for Russia.

No matter how many gifts the United States does to Ukraine, the US countries will not be able to arm the 40 million army, and everything will end as with Georgia or with Hummers for Ukraine, most of these "gifts" will be joked due to the lack of spare parts.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The production of rockets is expensive, let them spend resources in the void.

Maybe not into the void: there may be a sight for export. Now in a number of regions there is an increase in the supply of wholesale supplies of democracy and communism, which, in theory, should stimulate demand for anti-ship missiles, air defense systems and other similar things.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Maybe not into the void: there may be a sight for export.

I do not think that deliveries will be in any significant volume. Whoever wants to have already bought Harpoon or X-35 and will buy it, I don’t think that Neptune is much better or much cheaper.

Yes, and basically everyone fights on land, for a long time there have been no sea battles.

[Maikcg]

They can’t master the cartridge factory there, and you are talking about the mass export of hand-made missiles ...

[Herman 4223]

If, nevertheless, it comes to a military conflict, then the missiles will burn out along with the warehouse where they will be stored. If you do without slacking then this warehouse will burn out in the first half hour. And those same three divisions are not a fact that they will survive the first day.

[KCA]

Well, in Pavlovgrad, 2 tons of ICBM fuel is stored, cannot be disposed of? May I help? Then you can forget about "Neptune"

[Guards turn]

The defense order for 2020 does not provide for the production of the Ukrainian Neptune cruise missile.

This was announced on its official website by the ex-secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Turchynov, reports the correspondent of PolitNavigator.

[Cowbra]

There is a hole, no sense is visible. If you didn’t drown even a rusty dumpster

[voyaka uh]

The Neptune rocket is a copy of the Russian X-35 rocket.
With the same warhead. 150 kg
Think ...

[Cowbra]

Then, judging by the hit - a layout, not a copy WITHOUT a warhead. Those. same weapon as the American Mockup of a hypersonic rocket

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Then, judging by the hit - a layout, not a copy WITHOUT a warhead.

Judging by the hit - combat. There is simply nothing to explode in this barge and nothing to burn.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The Neptune rocket is a copy of the Russian X-35 rocket.
With the same warhead. 150 kg
Think ...

Yes, we are in the know.

[Souchastnik]

One of the design bureaus is developing a modern top-secret anti-missile system.
it is a swarm of drones controlled by artificial intelligence. Drones fly into the air in the event of a missile attack and provide cover for the object. Each drone can be in the air for quite a while and carries a piece of fat. Missiles are redirected and move away from the target.
Experts speak out about the shortcomings of such a system, in particular about the regional limitations of the use of such weapons. But scientists are working on improvement.

[Herman 4223]

And against heavy missiles, borsch with donuts will help.

[homeshniy domovoy]

Ukraine is slowly arming and rearming.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Ukraine is slowly arming and rearming.

Yeah, right power))). In the early 90s in Ukraine there were 1000 planes and helicopters (including 16 Tu-160 strategists (300 million dollars apiece at current prices, more expensive than a corvette), thousands of tanks / infantry fighting vehicles / armored personnel carriers, a modern fleet, and now it’s begging for boats , collects tanks in garbage bins and has been planing for a dozen years of anti-ship missiles since the performance characteristics of the 80s.

This is more like the dying convulsions of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex.

[113262a]

Show tests of the KILLS of the PALOGRAD CHEMICAL PLANT! Business then!

[Egoza]

Urya! Urya! We got somewhere!

[Piramidon]

According to him, Ukrainian missiles in a few minutes can destroy the bridge connecting the Crimea with the mainland.

I wonder where they are going to shoot at the bridge? There are svidomye kamikaze?

[Avior]

I think out of nowhere.
This is some kind of nonsense, shoot at the bridge.
But from Berdyansk to the bridge, 100 km, if that.
From the shore

[Piramidon]

Quote: Avior

But from Berdyansk to the bridge, 100 km, if that.
From the shore

So I was interested in the presence of kamikaze. Where will the pieces of these "getters" be collected later?

[Avior]

Given the fact that no one will shoot at the bridge and will not be anywhere.
And I strongly doubt that even if they shoot, they will fly to bomb Berdyansk in response.
The installations themselves can be removed a hundred kilometers inland from the coast, go find them again

[Piramidon]

Quote: Avior

The installations themselves can be removed a hundred kilometers inland from the coast, go find them again

Do not tell my Iskanders. The search will take less than 6 seconds. And you, Svidomo heroes, will have to regret your inadequacy very much.

[Ilya Nikitich]

It seems to me alone that the damage to the photo is not one year old? And it looks like damage from a ram by another ship ...

[Herman 4223]

This trough remained afloat after being hit. Of course, this is bad if the ship arrives but the warhead is weak.

[Maikcg]

Purely theoretically, the test barge should not drown, it’s an inappropriate flow if you drown something at every launch.

[Herman 4223]

Then launches must be done with a blank. When the brahmos were tested like that, the boat was drowned, it was even slightly broken.

[Old26]

Quote: yfast

Is that what she flew a couple of months and now got?

It’s funny. But writing such comments on VO is at least stupid ...

Quote: Souchastnik

pieces of 20 hits of such missiles are required

It is clear that such a flock will not be allowed to fly to the bridge. But damage to the metal structures of supports or spans will not lead to a change in strength and, at a minimum, to restrictions on the load (bridge capacity)?

Of course, a hit will change both the load and possibly the strength. Still, her "head" is 150 kg. And this is still not a little. Of course, 20 will not break through (by the way, it is not clear where Comrade Artunis took the number of 20 missiles from), but a smaller amount is enough to damage and disable (perhaps for a while) ...

Quote: major147

Well, this is on condition that our troops will follow the ukrostrelboy "picking the nose."

And this is the initial condition for considering any scenario. You read how our "Poseidons" and "Petrels" will multiply America by zero - the same thing. Americans sit like in a movie and watch. Doing nothing.

Quote: rotmistr60

Turchinov called the Neptune complex "the destroyer of the Crimean bridge."

It is impossible to do without pomp and boasting, because this is obviously the "smartest and super-duper" rocket in the Ukrainian way. Interestingly, did the Ukrainian strategists figure out what and how many will arrive in response to their launch?

We are all sinners, Gennady. We say the same about our "superweapon", which has no analogues in the world. The same "Poseidon" otherwise, as the killer of America and is not represented on the net. One hit and half of America is washed away

Quote: Kamarada

Bandera Ukrainians declared a warrior of Russia ,? announced. Is getting ready? So the Jews would have long been this enterprise that produces rockets would have been destroyed with the earth. But Vova is waiting for something. Tolerastitis?

Did they really declare war? And where are the fights? Losses? Success?
Do not write nonsense. And you can only compare in a situation where there really will be a war. Otherwise, Russia will become the aggressor.
Israel is hammering mainly on the territory of Syria with which it is at war.

Quote: KCA

Well, in Pavlovgrad, 2 tons of ICBM fuel is stored, cannot be disposed of? May I help? Then you can forget about "Neptune"

Another strategist? Have you decided to play war games? And then you can contribute. Contact grenades and go to the factory ...

Quote: Cowbra

There is a hole, no sense is visible. If you didn’t drown even a rusty dumpster

Well, and ours, of course, drown, each target? Compared to the Ukrainian one, which drowns nothing?
Damn, any shooting at a target is conducted so that the target is not sunk (drowned if you need to effectively show the electorate). But any target ship is money ... Why drown something if it is possible to use it for the second, third, fifth time ...

Quote: Piramidon

According to him, Ukrainian missiles in a few minutes can destroy the bridge connecting the Crimea with the mainland.

I wonder where they are going to shoot at the bridge? There are svidomye kamikaze?

This is just not a problem. From the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov. There is a spit along the eastern coast of Crimea. Shoot from where. There are a total of one and a half kilometers to the bridge. . I shot back and to tear, so that the launchers remained intact ... And among the shifted ones you can find kamikaze ...

[Tagan]

Quote: Pavel57

But how to provoke Russia to war is only a blow on the bridge.

Although they are stubborn, but not suicides)))
Do not you notice that ukrofashi usually act on the verge of a foul? Not reaching the inevitable answer

[mintai_kot]

I am not a hat-taker, but the result is not impressive, I saw the result of being hit by an anti-ship missile "Granit" - this is powerful! The hit was right on the waterline, the target was of a catamaran type, two hulls were punched through! The hole into which Kamaz would freely pass, the target folded in half

[Dr. Frankenstucker]

Ukrainian message says military portal.

translation from ukrainian?

[Ham]

I remember they wrote that the super-duper Neptune is a transmitted pechorah ...

[_M_]

And the trough is afloat left)

[Evil 55]

It is surprising to everyone that she got to the destination, and not just flew into the given square ...

[Archivist Vasya]

Either the target ship was a class heavy armadillo, or the rocket is rather weak - it didn’t drown. And for the cruiser, nothing will happen at all.

[kupitman]

the ship is not necessary to sink; it is enough to withdraw it from the battle. If a rocket hits a real ship with weapons, superstructures, the hole that already exists will lead to its exit from the battle, + fires, death of personnel, damage to weapons, radars, etc. Those. even if the damage is minor, you still have to repair the wiring, the control systems, etc.

[xomaNN]

As soon as uk ... ry rivet a couple of dozen rockets, wait for the explosion in the warehouse. ... tradition, however ...

[Klingon]

is it impossible to get into a rusty barge ?, however this is not the same as getting into a cruiser armed to the teeth

[Mongoose]

Power! This is a super weapon on the relics of Stepan Bandera !? Fear Great Russians!