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Constitutional Amendments: Learning to Live Humanly

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Constitutional Amendments: Learning to Live Humanly

I have written the same phrase many times: in an interesting time we live! The time when those who do something have become the objects of constant attacks of the discontented. Sometimes you listen to or read a text and an episode from the old Soviet film "Reserve Player" pops up immediately in your memory. There is one seemingly passing episode where the substitute in the performance of Vitsin prepares to repel a free kick.


The stadium is naturally worried. Fans, realizing that Vitsin will not be able to repay the penalty, in every possible way convince the judge that the kick was appointed incorrectly. The wife of the factory director, who is the first time at football, also enthusiastically shouts: “Wrong!” And only then she asks her husband: “What is wrong?” How does she at this moment remind some of our fighters with the system, with Putin! All wrong!!!

Continuing subject of amendments, I want to answer one question that is often asked to me. Yes, I will vote on constitutional amendments. Just because the “mess” that exists today and on which we live today does not suit me. I like a lot of what is offered. Something I disagree with. But somehow it looks strange that some of our fighters for the people are not at all “dumped”, and the Americans, together with pro-American politicians in Russia, are so actively opposing our amendments, I repeat, our Constitution ...

Today I saw an amendment sheet that almost copies the newsletter in the text part. A volunteer said that next week every voter will have such a list. So, there will be time to go deeper into all the proposals. I saw several information points in my city where young people hand out amended brochures. Moreover, these points are located just in places where many apolitical people. Bus station, railway station, shopping centers, etc.

One more thing. Regarding future presidential elections. This is how it is necessary to be afraid of the incumbent president, so that at the mere mention of his name to experience the urge to diarrhea! Putin will no longer be president. Nobody has canceled age and state of health. Yes, he has so much political weight in Russia that even without being an official, he will be able to significantly influence the country's domestic and international politics. So calm down, gentlemen. The fight in the elections will be between other candidates.



And now we continue to consider those amendments that I consider essential for all citizens of Russia.

Ensure stabilization and development of the political system of the Russian Federation


It's no secret to anyone (I wrote about this in the previous part) that today the president of the Russian Federation has tremendous power. In fact, without his consent, nothing happens in the country. This situation is good only if the president really has the respect and trust of the people. Otherwise, the power of the president becomes almost absolute. The dependence of the entire power system on one person is extremely dangerous a priori.

The amendments to articles 102, 103, 129 just solve the problem of concentration of power in one hand. A real balance of power is being created when the Council of the Federation, rather an authority authority than a real power structure, and the State Duma get rather serious powers.

In particular, the Federation Council gains the right to discuss power ministers and make proposals to the president on appointing specific people to these posts. Simply put, the Federation Council is empowered to form a power block of the government! The president shares his powers with the Federation Council.

The Federation Council also receives another lever of pressure on the president’s power. I am about the Constitutional and Supreme Courts. Now the last word in the appointment of the chairmen and their deputies of these courts goes to the Federation Council. The president only recommends candidates. Moreover, the Federation Council receives the right to terminate the powers of judges of the Constitutional Court, the Armed Forces, courts of cassation and appeal for committing an act defaming the rank of judge.

Also, the Federation Council will participate in the appointment of prosecutors in the region. True, the prerogative to appoint prosecutors remains the same, but now without the consent of the senators this can not be done.

The State Duma has not been ignored. Now all deputy prime ministers and line ministers will be discussed at the State Duma meetings. Thus, the Duma deputies will bear the same responsibility for the work of the government as the president.

There is another article that is little mentioned in the press. This is article 12. An article on local governments. It is there that the principle of independence of LSG bodies is fixed. But now the Constitution proposes to legislatively consolidate the interaction of SMUs with public authorities. And here, as I see it, for the first time we get the publicity of power. What is always lacking in government.

Remove foreigners from power


A very painful issue for our society. Too many former officials and deputies today live abroad and do not even hide the fact that they stole millions (and sometimes billions) of dollars from the Russian budget. They laugh at us, over the state, over the law. In Russia, you will not surprise anyone by the fact that a deputy of many convocations or an official at the federal level suddenly turns out to be a citizen of another country with a million capital ...

Here amendments are proposed immediately for many articles: 77, 78, 81, 95, 97, 103, 110, 119, 129.

It is clear that the Russian political elite must be patriots of their country. Only in this case will politicians really work for the good of Russia. Only in this case they will have common values. Remember the main claims to public people, I specifically write not only about politicians or officials. Claims are simple as twice two. Property abroad, children study abroad, accounts abroad, residence permit or foreign passport.

Speaking scientifically, the main complaints of the country's population against public people are the possibility of a conflict of interest for a particular person. This is an opportunity to influence these people through the above questions. And now, if the amendments are adopted, officials and deputies will not be able to have accounts, property and other material interests abroad. Accordingly, they will not be able to have foreign citizenship or a residence permit in another country.

I can imagine the economic benefits the adoption of these amendments will bring! How many officials will return the money to Russia! And how many will leave posts for various reasons, if money is stolen! After all, the amounts that officials dispose of, judging by the sentences of our courts, have long been estimated at not even millions - billions!

You do not need to have seven spans in your forehead to understand that having accounts and property abroad means more than wealth and prosperity. It means the presence of some life guidelines for the future. As it once was in the USSR Navy. Before retirement, transfer to the Black Sea Fleet and resignation in Sevastopol ... In our version, money will be earned in Russia, and after retirement, they will live in London ... In short, the struggle against foreigners and future foreigners in power, as well as the struggle against investors in foreign economy, there is a struggle for our sovereignty, for the independence of Russia!

Your country must be protected always and everywhere


Someone does not want Russia to remain a territorially integrated country? Someone doubt that our probable opponents will do everything to destroy us? I'm not talking about the military component. Here, our “partners” have chronic knee weakness after 1945. I’m talking about legal, economic, moral and other pressures on our society, on our state.

Maybe someone likes when demolishing monuments to our soldiers? Like when the soldiers-liberators make soldier-aggressors? When the Red Army is equated with the Wehrmacht in World War II?

Or should we not support Russians (I don't like this word - Russian speakers) in other countries? Should we leave the people of Donbass? Should we leave the Russians in other countries?

Maybe someone likes when a court in some The Hague can dictate terms to Russia? When does our Russian law mean nothing before some mythical international? And what is international law? The drawbar that turned where it went out there. But on its basis, someone has the right to impose some duties on the Russian Federation!

This is where the amendments to articles 67, 67.1, 69, 125 come in handy. It is there that the law guarantees the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation (Article 67), protecting the memory of the feat of our grandfathers in the Great Patriotic War (Article 67, paragraph 1), assistance to our compatriots abroad (Article 69), the priority of Russian legislation over international (Article 125).

Under article 125, I would like to clarify some of the nuances. Just because it is in this case that the most liberal cry is heard. Goodbye to The Hague, goodbye, Human Rights Court ... The proposed amendments propose not to abandon international courts at all. Norma says that the Constitutional Court must decide on the basis of legislation in each case. Will Russia execute any decision or not.

Society should consist of responsible and proactive citizens.


The issue of creating a responsible civil society for me personally became relevant only during the quarantine period. Remember the spontaneous organizations that appeared unexpectedly on the initiative of caring people and who made a huge contribution to the survival of one of the main risk groups - the elderly?

We often take the position of the Lermontov veteran of the Battle of Borodino in relation to our youth. “The heroes are not you ...” But they gathered and did ... As they did in the Chechen wars, in Georgia, in Syria, in Abkhazia, in the Donbass, in Transnistria. We have normal youth. Responsible and proactive. But we must help her! How should they help all initiative and active people who are trying to improve the lives of others.

In fact, today a huge number of people are engaged in solving problems that the state cannot reach. Mugs for children, animal shelters, help for orphans and the poor, search for dead soldiers on the battlefields ... The list goes on. Good deal? Of course.

We are obliged not just not to beat these people hand in hand, we are obliged in every way to help and encourage these people. Remember how the first volunteers appeared in Russia? Yes, public assistants. And then what happened? The movement has grown, and now it is a real force. No one is surprised at the appearance of social activists at some events.

It is the amendment to Article 114 that speaks of this.

Instead of a conclusion


It is clear that not all amendments that are personally interesting to me are considered in this material. But what is listed is enough to understand the importance of the upcoming event.

The country needs to be changed. And to change, not by a willful decision, all at once, but gradually. Slowly. Without breaking anyone’s lives. It’s easy to remove the piles of garbage that we have piled on so much in all spheres of life over the past thirty years that we cannot even see the grass under them. We used to live like that. We must wean. Learning to live humanly.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 19 June 2020 13: 19 New
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    who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 19 June 2020 13: 25 New
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      Quote: Dead Day
      who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?

      This is too complicated a question for them .. shouting approval ... without thinking, it's easier ..
      And the enemies interfered .. USA, Ukraine .. fifth column .. who else is there ..
      1. Deck
        Deck 19 June 2020 13: 35 New
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        This is how it is necessary to be afraid of the incumbent president, so that at the mere mention of his name to experience the urge to diarrhea!


        You got it all mixed up. Most already have a gag reflex when they say: "I gave an assignment"
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 19 June 2020 15: 00 New
          -40 qualifying.
          Most are you and your neighbor?)
          1. victor50
            victor50 21 June 2020 06: 08 New
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            Quote: codetalker
            The majority

            masterpiece! lol Where are the amendments to understand or read correctly.
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          1. paul3390
            paul3390 19 June 2020 16: 03 New
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            One thought that the Duma and the Federation Council will be given something really serious to steer - causes a rash and a shudder .. They, in their present form, give a rustle to their clinical idiocy, but so far they are not allowed to go to the helm .. Gloom ...
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 19 June 2020 17: 14 New
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              The whole essence of the "amendments" can be understood once and for all by watching a fragment from the Soviet cartoon "Three from Prostokvashino" (1978). The initiators and compilers clearly "began to molt", the "legs" from "rowing" ache and the "tails" have long fallen off. All this with "increased hairiness" and so on. laughing
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        1. Lexus
          Lexus 19 June 2020 17: 26 New
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          really pay.

          So that the barrel organ always produces pleasant sounds, you need to constantly twist the handle. wink


      3. unaha
        unaha 19 June 2020 14: 09 New
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        This is all right, but the author of the article (series of articles) does not answer (and does not even consider) a very simple question that can easily unite both supporters and opponents of the event - voting on each amendment individually. However, this option is immediately swept away due to complexity due to the large number of amendments. The argument is completely untenable, since the amendments are divided into blocks and nothing prevents voting in blocks:

        Federal structure - 51 amendments;
        President of the Russian Federation - 19 amendments;
        Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation - 33 amendments;
        Government of the Russian Federation - 26 amendments;
        Judicial branch and prosecutor's office - 23 amendments;
        Local government - 12 amendments;
        Proposals for the preamble - 9 amendments;
        The procedure for nationwide voting and the procedure for entry into force - 33 amendments.
        I would very much like to receive an explanation from the author (if he is looking at the comments) for what reason it is impossible to organize block-by-block "approvals".
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 19 June 2020 16: 22 New
          -24 qualifying.
          Quote: unaha
          for some reason it is impossible to organize block-by-block "approvals".

          1) Our legal illiteracy does not allow us to fully realize the quality of this or that amendment. Only shoemakers can choose the best shoemaker. The best baker is only bakers.

          2) Because many articles of the Constitution are somehow connected with each other. By removing one, integrity will be violated, there will be contradictions, holes that will certainly be exploited by ill-wishers.

          3) Amendments are accepted by the package, because they are an inter-clan agreement, which is more expensive to violate.

          I recall:
          "State policy and management in a crowd-" elite "society is an agreement reached on the capabilities of various clan-corporate groupings in using the state structure and system to achieve their narrowly corporate goals."
          1. unaha
            unaha 19 June 2020 17: 34 New
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            Well, point 3 probably corresponds to reality, and the rest ... Why then ask at all, because how is it "supposed"?
            "Our legal ignorance does not allow us to fully realize the quality of this or that amendment" - well, I admit it. However, for most of the amendments, no legal literacy is required, common sense is enough (with it, a significant part of citizens also have considerable problems, but still). They have already been chewed many times, I see no reason to repeat myself. One example - why would a secular state in the preamble of the constitution introduce such an entity as God? References to history look like pulling an owl onto a globe. For most of the others, the situation is similar.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 19 June 2020 17: 52 New
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              common sense enough

              What do you? Then the "resident" and his entourage will be exposed. Suckers will be orphaned. bully
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 21 June 2020 06: 58 New
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                This is a judgment unworthy of the morality of a person who is doomed to the chains of the "interpreter" of the first person in the state :: we, as the population of Russia, cannot allow the statesmen ruling Russia to apply in these matters any other moral postulates that DENY common sense meaning and justice as the main driving forces of Russia as a state.
                Moreover, the pronoun "we" used by this person is NOT ACCEPTABLE for generalized use and is acceptable only in private conversations (we: colleagues, neighbors, drinking companions, accomplices ...), but the first person in the state DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to trust anyone. it is horrible to convey their thoughts and considerations to the population through someone who too freely interprets the direct speech of the head of state.
          2. bk0010
            bk0010 19 June 2020 20: 45 New
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            Quote: Boris55
            1) Our legal illiteracy does not allow us to fully realize the quality of this or that amendment. Only shoemakers can choose the best shoemaker. The best baker is only bakers.

            2) Because many articles of the Constitution are somehow connected with each other. By removing one, integrity will be violated, there will be contradictions, holes that will certainly be exploited by ill-wishers.

            3) Amendments are accepted by the package, because they are an inter-clan agreement, which is more expensive to violate.
            Then touch fuck.
          3. Per se.
            Per se. 20 June 2020 10: 26 New
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            Quote: Boris55
            Our legal illiteracy does not allow us to fully realize the quality of this or that amendment.
            Boris, do you also consider yourself in this, advocating amendments?

            Quote: Boris55
            Only shoemakers can choose the best shoemaker. The best baker is only bakers.
            As you know - "a shoemaker, no boots", and according to your logic, the best president can only be chosen by the president himself.

            In general, reading the entire advertising campaign, it can be characterized - "the oil must be oily"! And try, like, refute the holy truth of zeal for the Russian people.

            The amendments themselves must first be studied by lawyers and economists, put forward for discussion, and then adopted in accordance with the law, this is all violated. So what are we talking about, why are they talking about what should be obvious, like the integrity of the borders, but not "advertised" amendments to the actual destruction of the independent judicial branch of government, zeroing the deadlines, and so on, which remains modestly behind the scenes?
          4. Igor K
            Igor K 24 June 2020 08: 10 New
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            Not our ignorance but yours, speak for yourself comrade.
        2. domokl
          20 June 2020 08: 24 New
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          Quote: unaha
          for some reason it is impossible to organize block-by-block "approvals".

          Read the comments. Most of the authors just haven't read what I have written about. Alas, this is the normal state of a citizen of the Russian Federation. What you are proposing is just one way to "chat" to accept amendments.
          By the way, I repeat, did you think about the composition of those who are against changing the Constitution? Just look at the list of opponents and everything will become clear ...
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 20 June 2020 08: 34 New
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            Quote: domokl
            Just look at the list of opponents and everything will become clear ...

            I tried to lay out this list with reference to the source (Echo) - they instantly deleted it.
          2. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 20 June 2020 08: 53 New
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            Quote: domokl
            Just look at the list of opponents and everything will become clear ...

            That is, when in the USA they say that they are there for democracy in Russia, they must immediately spite them to go over to the slave system? Author how many pieces of silver this time?
          3. Per se.
            Per se. 20 June 2020 10: 58 New
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            Quote: domokl
            By the way, I repeat, did you think about the composition of those who are against changing the Constitution?
            Alexander, have you ever thought about those for the adoption of amendments in this particular form, and why? For example, I am for improving our Constitution, for the independence of Russia, for improving the life of the Russian people, but the amendments in this form, to put it mildly, embarrass me. Here, you write - "that calm down gentlemen. The fight in the elections will be between other candidates"so why then the amendment to zero the terms of the presidency? You write that"so that Russia remains a territorially integral country"and without amendments, does the constitution say that Russian lands should be given away? Maybe the so-called" demarcation "of the border was forced by the constitution, when strategically important border areas were transferred to the Chinese unilaterally? Did the constitution also force the pension reform to be carried out without amendments?

            Finally, if we talk about the benefit for Russia, where are the amendments to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation vital for independence? You are a military man, already with life experience, wisdom, not to understand the obvious things, you by definition should not, but, it turns out that "you wanted the best", that's just to get after, "as always." Because you can't live in capitalism and be free from its laws, not for the good of the colonies invented. Because it is impossible to build an independent, "parallel capitalism" in Russia, being in a foreign pole of power, under the master of the world capitalist system. Banks, by the way, are here as a litmus of this "independence". Also, our billionaires will never be friends of the people, and they will not exchange dollars for rubles, since everything is more theirs with the West, not with Russia. And, the renegades who betrayed the party, the idea, will betray anything, - "Having betrayed once, he will betray more than once, Having lied once, he will lie twice."
          4. unaha
            unaha 22 June 2020 08: 29 New
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            "one of the ways to" chat "to accept amendments - and again the term" amendments "is used in the form of some indivisible array. However, it is not. Personally, I see 3 types of amendments in the array - useful, useless and harmful. Why do I need to agree with the useless and harmful in order to be accepted (a very small number) of the useful?
            "Just look at the list of opponents and everything will become clear" - to spite my mother's frostbite?
      4. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 June 2020 14: 21 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        who else is there

        Pechenegs with the Khazars. And Polovtsy of course! wassat
        1. Snarkxnumx
          Snarkxnumx 19 June 2020 14: 59 New
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          He (GDP) has a large list. After the Polovtsy will go the Mongols, Lithuania, Poles, Swedes, French, Germans .. and there will come 2036.
        2. yuliatreb
          yuliatreb 19 June 2020 15: 22 New
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          Members of the same class will vote in pairs.
        3. Malyuta
          Malyuta 19 June 2020 18: 15 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Pechenegs with the Khazars. And Polovtsy of course!

          Banderapolites, Ukrainian dwellers, Viking Fascists, Drevlinoliberals, sectarians of the 10th day mother, Nubirulibertarians, Laptemarsians and, of course, agents of the 125th convoy! wassat
      5. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 19 June 2020 14: 39 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        This is too complicated a question for them .. shouting approval ... without thinking, it's easier ..

        Ugums. These gentlemen are even unable to realize that some of the amendments introduced are contrary to the foundations of the constitution. And basic. For example, an article on equality. Introducing, through the constitution, a caste of especially privileged citizens. Apparently later, when it takes a little rest, the formation of castes will continue, by means of the next changes. After all, the most difficult thing is to start.
        1. AK1972
          AK1972 19 June 2020 14: 57 New
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          Quote: Lannan Shi
          Ugums. These gentlemen are even unable to realize that some of the amendments introduced are contrary to the foundations of the constitution. And basic.

          The very incomprehensible "voting" (not spelled out anywhere) contradicts the current Constitution, since any changes to the basic law should be adopted on the basis of the results of the referendum, as the highest form of expression of the will of citizens. You can't play by the rules with cheaters.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 21 June 2020 07: 16 New
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          Oh, how wrong you are!
          It's not a problem to start - just how dashingly all those who had access to state finances and were able to privatize property (Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, Deripaska, Vekselbergs with Potanins and Prokhorovs with Fridmans and so on, so on, so on ... ) - and what happened to their property? She walks from hand to hand and cannot stop in her whirlwind - that is why the owners do not want to invest in "not their own", that is why Norilsk and Sayano-shushenkas happen and other hundreds of the same for little things ...
          That is why it is more important to FINISH, but not to start - they have been shaking for 20 years now, that their property, as it were, can be snatched out of their hands at any moment.
          1. Benedict
            Benedict 21 June 2020 07: 22 New
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            Quote: hydrox
            That is why it is more important to FINISH, but not to start - they have been shaking for 20 years now, that their property, as it were, can be snatched out of their hands at any moment.

            The wrong word is shaking ... They all raised, all the media and the Western ones .. You are creepy in the world. They are afraid of restoring the former power of the USSR and the social state.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 21 June 2020 08: 49 New
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              They are afraid, but not that ...
              After all, WHO is the only one who can terminate this thieving RUSSIAN ownership right?
              Yes, only the people, which is the only source of power in Russia.
              And only the people (and not the Constitution!) Can decide whether he likes THIS president with his deeds (in the name or to the shame of Russia), if he would like to see and support this leader of the country at the main post of the state, if the people want to see CONTINUATION of the good deeds of this leader at the post, the right to which he was entrusted with in the name of the welfare of the people.
              That is why it is only for the people at least every year, at least once every five years (yes, even forever !!) to decide the fate of this president by popular vote or referendum.
              And even if liberals are wildly afraid of this main constitutional provision, EVERYTHING must be done so that it is the main one and stands FIRST among all the provisions of the new Constitution.
      6. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 20 June 2020 07: 37 New
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        But the fifth column and the amers who sponsor them, of course not)?
        Are we all saints?
        Definitely, Gauleiters with dual citizenship need to be removed from the feeder. It is this shobla that interferes with absolutely any development, absolutely in any country
      7. PIT
        PIT 22 June 2020 16: 38 New
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        Do not disgrace the name of Svarog, change to Samosos
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 19 June 2020 13: 36 New
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      That's it !
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 19 June 2020 13: 52 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        That's it !

        Well, about "20 years silent" everything is simple - there was no need. One of the key amendments is all sorts of guarantees for former presidents (immunity, lifetime membership in the Federation Council, and so on). Looks like my grandfather is slowly getting ready to retire; after the pension reform, the PFR no longer counts, so he prepares himself a "golden parachute"))
        1. Achilles
          Achilles 20 June 2020 08: 29 New
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          Quote: Kalmar
          Well, about "20 years silent" everything is simple - there was no need. One of the key amendments is all sorts of guarantees for former presidents (immunity, lifetime membership in the Federation Council, and so on).

          About what kind of non-touch you are talking about, the same amendment says that any non-touch can be removed, you should at least read carefully before writing ohineya. People went that where they hear something and say, but to figure it out yourself is not enough
          1. Kalmar
            Kalmar 20 June 2020 09: 39 New
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            Quote: Achilles
            About what non-touch you are talking about, the same amendment says that any non-touch can be removed, you should at least read carefully before writing ohineya

            How about letters? We read article 93.1:
            The President of the Russian Federation, who has ceased to exercise his powers, is deprived of immunity by the Federation Council only on the basis of the charges put forward by the State Duma for treason or the commission of another serious crime, confirmed by the conclusion of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation on the presence in the actions of the President of the Russian Federation, both acting and terminating their powers, signs of crime and the conclusion of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on compliance with the established procedure for the prosecution

            At the same time, we remember that the former president is a member of the Federation Council himself, and for life, and on this basis also has immunity (Article 98.2), moreover, he will also participate in the consideration of the deprivation of his beloved. And also article 93.3 regulates that the decision on deprivation of immunity must be made within three months, otherwise it is automatically rejected.

            Bottom line: yes, technically it is all possible, but in real life this quest will be almost impassable. It can be very, very difficult to make a mossy deputy "touched" in our country.
      2. AK1972
        AK1972 19 June 2020 15: 14 New
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        What makes you think that he was silent, he spoke and spoke quite definitely. I will repeat my commentary on the article by Roman Skomorokhov "When You Can't Cover Shame with Figs."
        Some sayings of Vladimir Vladimirovich:
        2003g. "The very process of amending the Constitution is a destabilizing factor."
        2004g. “We must take good care of the Constitution of our country, not allow it to be changed according to the taste of those people who are in power at the moment.
        2005g. "If each new head of state changes the Constitution for himself, then soon nothing will be left of this state."
        2007g. "Changing the Constitution for a specific person, even if I absolutely trust him, I consider it incorrect"
        So let's listen to the opinion of the president.
        PS Yesterday I heard a conversation between grandmothers in the yard, who always regularly voted for Putin. The general meaning of the conversation is this:
        - If E. Pamfilova said on the central TV channel that all the amendments have already been legitimized, it means that nothing depends on our votes and why then we will beat our old legs. And grandmothers do not sit on the Internet, they watch the news.
      3. Boris55
        Boris55 19 June 2020 16: 33 New
        -38 qualifying.
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        That's it !

        What exactly is that?

        The amendments to the Constitution proposed by Putin are only the first step towards an evolutionary change in the social system. Opponents of the changes and their masters in the West understand this very well and they are doing everything for Russia to continue to be controlled from behind the hill.

        United Russia has done everything to "blur" presidential amendments with four hundred amendments and discredit him as a guarantor. The amendment by EP (Tereshkova) on the zeroing of the deadline gave them a reason to file lawsuits in everything and everyone.

        So the people are determined with what we want:

        Revolutionary way - This is the path of the color revolution under the direction of the US State Department. The people do not have money for revolution, and those who have it do not work for us, they work for the destruction (sale) of Russia.

        Evolutionary path - This is the policy pursued by Putin to gradually change the law in the interests of the majority of the people. When the new constitution is adopted by the Constitutional Assembly, all laws will be brought into the shortest possible time in accordance with the Basic Law of the Country. (Remember how the Duma stamped laws after the 93rd?)

        Let it be as it is - This will allow further robbing the country of Chubais and Gaidar. Today they are driven by Putin under the plinth. Do not forget that we started jumping two years before Ukraine (2012) and only thanks to Putin did we manage to avoid the collapse of the country into souvenir states.



        Personally, I am for the evolutionary path of development. Yes, it's a long time, but without bloodletting and lowering the country into the Stone Age. Everything is as it is - it does not suit me.

        Everyone who does not want to change anything, think - with whom are you?

        Yes. To come to the possibility of at least something to change, I had to go a long way:

        What has been done (preparatory part):
        -Do not let Russia fall apart (why change something if there is no country tomorrow?)
        - Fill the budget with money and start performing social services. obligations to citizens (revision of contracts in the oil and gas sector, etc.).
        - feed people. Do you still remember Bush’s legs?
        - ensure the country's defense capability.

        In the process:
        A total change of the Constitution, bringing all legislation to its requirements.

        What lies ahead:
        - Nationalization of the banking system. Make the ruble a global currency.
        - To lead the country to the most advanced countries in the world, and the standard of living of citizens is the highest. To do this, we have 20% of the world's natural reserves.
        - Abolish the republics within Russia, accept the former union only on the rights of autonomies.
        - Create a common economic space from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Pacific to the Atlantic under our control.
        - Go to the development of nearby planets.

        You do not need all this?

        Why herds of gifts of freedom?
        They should be cut or cut.
        Their inheritance from generation to generation
        Yarmo with rattles and scourge.

        Author: A. S. Pushkin
        1. 210ox
          210ox 19 June 2020 16: 59 New
          36
          Ahh .. Pension reform is also for the good of the people?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 19 June 2020 17: 12 New
            -39 qualifying.
            Quote: 210ox
            Ahh .. Pension reform is also for the good of the people?

            Does it bother you? Are you worried, do you want to talk about it? laughing

            So that the Monetary Fund would not continue to impose such a pension reform on us, or what kind of crap should we vote for amendments, for the supremacy of our legislation over their Wishlist. Or do you not know how it all began?
            1. bk0010
              bk0010 19 June 2020 20: 47 New
              17
              Quote: Boris55
              Does it bother you? Are you worried, do you want to talk about it? laughing
              Yes, it excites. Yes, I'm worried. But talking to you about this is apparently useless. What's next? And if nothing, then why ask?
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 20 June 2020 08: 07 New
                -7
                Quote: bk0010
                Yes, it excites. Yes, I'm worried.

                Are you aware that it was at the direction of the IMF that the retirement age was raised in all the former Soviet republics, including ours? Or do you think that having replaced the president and leaving the same constitution, something will change, they will stop giving us commands from over the boogie for the benefit of them? If you really think so, then you are deeply mistaken.
                1. 2 Level Advisor
                  2 Level Advisor 20 June 2020 12: 59 New
                  10
                  And where in the old Constitution there is a loophole, which is closed, through which the vile IMF "pushed through" an increase in the retirement age .. only please with the article number .. without demagoguery ...
                2. SVD68
                  SVD68 21 June 2020 10: 31 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Do you know that it was at the direction of the IMF that the retirement age was raised in all the former Soviet republics, including ours?

                  We even know that people who have raised the retirement age and people who have adopted amendments to the constitution are the same people. But amendments from the Communist Party were not adopted, and State Duma deputies from the Communist Party were against raising the retirement age.
                  Well, what a coincidence. Or is it not a coincidence, but a pattern?
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 21 June 2020 10: 34 New
                    -2
                    Quote: SVD68
                    We even know that people who have raised the retirement age and people who have adopted amendments to the constitution are the same people.

                    You want to say that Christine Lagarde is the initiator of amendments to the Constitution? wassat
                    1. SVD68
                      SVD68 21 June 2020 10: 39 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Boris55
                      You want to say that Christine Lagarde is the initiator of amendments to the Constitution?

                      This logically follows from your attempt to justify the authorities for raising the retirement age. yes
                3. Igor K
                  Igor K 24 June 2020 08: 18 New
                  -1
                  That is, in the republics, the IMF raised the retirement age and we have GDP, then explain what is the difference between them?
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 24 June 2020 08: 21 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Igor K
                    That is, in the republics, the IMF raised the retirement age, and we have GDP,

                    And we have the same IMF as while international law is higher than ours. That is why with the departure of Medvedev, nothing has changed, incl. go and vote for independence.
                    1. Igor K
                      Igor K 25 June 2020 01: 00 New
                      -1
                      There is no need to mislead us, there is no such norm in the current constitution (prevalence of international law over Russian)
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 25 June 2020 07: 30 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Igor K
                        there is no such norm in the current constitution

                        If it weren’t, it wouldn’t be introduced
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 21 June 2020 09: 13 New
            +1
            So, Liberia came up with pension reform, but she could not assume that the people had not yet completely dumbed to accept it on faith - that’s it!
            And I would have removed this rotten GDP from consideration - you look, and I would have approached the elections with a triple rating relative to today's and the number of voters "for".
            And the second grave mistake: the wrong people were involved in the formation of formulations that could actually hook the population, accept the amendments as OWN.
            1. Igor K
              Igor K 24 June 2020 09: 42 New
              -1
              You are naive, you separate the king from his servants.
        2. KERMET
          KERMET 19 June 2020 17: 13 New
          24
          20 years ago, I would almost have believed you ....
          And where do you get this grass? what
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 19 June 2020 23: 26 New
            10
            Quote: KERMET
            20 years ago, I would almost have believed you ....
            And where do you get this grass?

            He sits it in a greenhouse, and then the litter-tv looks, and this is a hell of a mixture! belay
        3. DimDimych
          DimDimych 19 June 2020 19: 45 New
          13
          What Vladimir Putin said over the past 10 years about the possibility of changing the Constitution is in the RIA Novosti selection of quotes.
          "The revision of the fundamental provisions of the Constitution is tantamount to revising the foundations of the country's state system, and revising its norms dictated by the political situation is a direct path to a crisis of power and to the weakening of the authorities, to dangerous state conflicts" (December 2001).

          "The very process of amending the Constitution is a destabilizing factor" (June 2003).

          "We must treat the Constitution of our country with care. Do not allow it to be changed to the taste of those people who are in power at the moment. We must treat it with care. I am categorically against changing it" (June 2003).

          "If each newly coming head of state changes the Constitution for himself, then soon nothing will remain of this state" (October 2005).

          "Changing the Constitution for a specific person, even if I absolutely trust him, I consider it incorrect" (October 2007)

          “I know that many of you, as a matter of fact, and I, believe that someday eventually we will have to go to direct elections of senators, but we need to look at the Constitution. The Constitution states that members of the upper house represent the legislative and the executive power of the subject of the federation is represented. Therefore, then we will need to think about changing the basic law "(November 2012).

          "The tough and firm position of the Constitutional Court on upholding the constitutional foundations of our state is the backbone of Russia, because the erosion, loosening of the Basic Law means a precursor to the erosion and loosening of the state itself ... you need to take good care of the basic law." "The fundamental law must be stable. This stability is a significant part of the stability of the state itself and the fundamental rights and freedoms of citizens of the Russian Federation" (December 2012).

          “The basic law is distinguished by the fact that it claims to be the most stable of all laws adopted,” the president said. “Although, as we all know well, the law is already outdated not only at the time of its adoption, but also at the time of development I would very much like to hope that our Basic Law, our Constitution, will be relevant not only at the time of adoption and not only in 20 years, but also in the longer term ”(November 2013).

          "Still, the issue of stability of the Constitution is directly related to its text. How can we connect the stability of the text and the stability of the constitutional system, I understand that where there are two lawyers, there are three opinions ... Yes, if it turns out that society is ripe for changes in the text , that, perhaps, it is possible to go for it ... "(November 2013).

          "What is the right? This is a piece of paper that regulates certain rules, which in turn regulate certain social relations. The need to make some adjustments is understandable, but there are things that are fundamental - these are the rights and freedom of our citizens. countries, they are unshakable, these are things of a fundamental nature, this must be treated with the utmost care, I would not touch this at all. <...> If necessary, the society itself, the parliament, the president can initiate certain changes or regions of the Russian Federation, when it comes to relations between the regions and the federal center. In this sense, the main law - the Constitution - is a living organism "(December 2013).

          [media = https: //ria.ru/20131209/980567465.html]
        4. Mikhail m
          Mikhail m 19 June 2020 19: 56 New
          14
          Quote: Boris55
          - Go to the development of nearby planets.

          Wider need to think. Stars and galaxies are our immediate task. And miserable pensions and salaries are not our scale.
        5. PCF
          PCF 20 June 2020 05: 03 New
          +5
          "the policy pursued by Putin to gradually change legislation in the interests of the majority of the people"
          Is it about changes in retirement age or something else more interesting to the general public?
          P, S, I'm not local myself, but it's a shame for the power
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 19 June 2020 13: 38 New
      21
      Quote: Dead Day
      who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?

      Bad dancer, as you know ...
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 19 June 2020 14: 18 New
        25
        Quote: rocket757
        Bad dancer, as you know ...

        A bad dancer has no time for swinging.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 19 June 2020 14: 47 New
          16
          Quote: Malyuta
          A bad dancer has no time for swinging.

          Then we ask - What did he do before? -
          Is the need for change ripening straight, straight, now?
          Did the dancer have an opportunity just now?
          And a bunch of the same questions .... moreover, I don’t even criticize, I just iteres.
          And the amendments ... they will not fundamentally change anything, because it’s precisely those who, by the very, the most cool thing, who are violating everything, are monitoring us.
          Well, zeroing doesn’t bother me anymore, that's why nothing.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 19 June 2020 15: 01 New
            +7
            Quote: rocket757
            And a bunch of the same questions .... moreover, I don’t even criticize, I just iteres.

            Comrade, I began to sort it out personally for myself and my conclusions come down to the fact that according to the original law on amendments, the adoption of the amendments themselves will create a case law for amendments to the main points of the constitution, but without us. And then ... there may be urgent re-election of the Duma and full usurpation of power, all this is due to the nullification of confidence in the power itself and the bunker dancer in that chmsle. hi
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 19 June 2020 15: 09 New
              10
              With the tacit consent / disagreement of the society, WHAT IS PLEASANT!
              There is no unity in society. Correct, indicate, stop the top we have SOME!
              And then argue, curse, you can go into the mud ... nothing will change.
              The country, society froze in a comatose state ... I do not know how many volts to this "body" must be brought, Schaub it came out of this state.
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 19 June 2020 15: 28 New
                12
                Quote: rocket757
                The country, society froze in a comatose state ... I do not know how many volts to this "body" must be brought, Schaub it came out of this state.

                Well said!!! good drinks
                But in fact, the stone has already been thrown and the waves have gone, having a cartoon effect. A quarantine imposed on mediocrity and greed will lead to unemployment of workers and lack of money for the self-employed, then economic demands, then social and finally political.
                All the crooks are already skiing for their foreign estates, accounts, women and children, and they don’t have much to do here, since they have no reason to wait for them to be cut into ribbons. And people can break out at any time in Russia . hi
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 19 June 2020 18: 09 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Malyuta
                  All the crooks are already skiing to ....., since they have no reason to wait until they are cut into tapes

                  Well, I’ll try to believe ..... I don’t even guess myself.
              2. depressant
                depressant 19 June 2020 16: 14 New
                +9
                Amendments are an easy way to occupy people by dividing them into factions that are at war with each other during the period of the domestic political crisis, covered by an epidemic. In the conditions of powerlessness and despair of the central government in the fight against the monster that it has generated and further by inertia is gaining unprecedented power, a monster in the form of an alloy of corruption, nepotism, incompetence, readiness to betray the interests of the country, we should not interfere with it. The monstrous child has grown and devours his mother. And she is afraid! Having fallen into prostration, he frantically searches for plans for salvation. National projects, Mishustinsky and Malofeyev’s rescue plans, some other plans interfere with the heap, separate administrative heads fly along the way, and Potanin’s head is proposed to be cut off by the State Duma, but the child is grown in the form of a monster, it’s cloudy, stony and barking - hydra with infinite by the number of corruption, thieves and treacherous goals - you chop off one, a hundred grow in its place! What to do?!?
                What to do...
                I know why Putin introduces laws that have long been in force in the Constitution. He believes that the corruption tint of these laws, at least in the Constitution, will not leak. Naive or naive-cunning? There are already examples of how the constitutional norm does not protect against corruption law.
                No need to deceive us.
                1. tatra
                  tatra 19 June 2020 17: 18 New
                  12
                  Lyudmila, the people on the territory of the USSR, and so all 100 years after the October Revolution, were divided into hostile to each other "red" and "white". After the capture of Russia by the "whites", the "reds" became opposition to the existing power and the System, and the "whites" divided among themselves into those who are in power and for power, and those who represent opposition to them, and the "whites" squabble among themselves, and all together are spiteful against the "red". Here's a squiggle, you know.
                2. V1er
                  V1er 19 June 2020 19: 02 New
                  +8
                  Quote: depressant
                  And she is afraid! Having fallen into prostration, he frantically searches for plans for salvation.

                  Hello) It seems to me that you overestimate their fear and torment. I think they fell into insanity and idleness there for a long time, completely lost touch with the real world. This is evidenced by their numerous pearls and speeches, lengthy laws and proposals, hysterical disputes when they are told that the salary is small and prices are high, they begin to break down and clutch at statistics. And then change the very statistics. When the real truth on the ground reaches them, they start throwing pens and stomping their legs. But then they hibernate again. I think there is absolutely no feedback. We live in that beautiful world that they create for us and cannot reach them in any way.
          2. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 19 June 2020 19: 17 New
            14
            Quote: rocket757
            And the amendments ... they will not fundamentally change anything

            Exactly. Because the whole essence of the Yeltsin constitution does not change, therefore, whatever the result of voting, the government will suit any option. After all, the Constitution remains in fact the same, well, not to return to the 1977 version of our "reformers" belay lol
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 20 June 2020 10: 21 New
              +2
              In the country now there is no FORCE capable of at least something fundamentally changing ...
              There is no unity among the people, there is no one to create, create such a unity, we do not have DANKO, which the masses will follow.
              But there are forces ready to trample any CREATOR, LEADER, to level with the ground!
              Here you go.
        2. AK1972
          AK1972 19 June 2020 15: 16 New
          +7
          Quote: Malyuta
          The bad dancer has no time for swinging

          You don’t dance it with a paddle.
    4. Varyag71
      Varyag71 19 June 2020 13: 42 New
      +4
      They have no answer to this.
    5. Vend
      Vend 19 June 2020 15: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Dead Day
      who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?

      Yes, there were enough
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        1. Mikhail m
          Mikhail m 19 June 2020 20: 05 New
          11
          Quote: AUL
          my rural outpatient clinic will be no worse than the best metropolitan clinics

          But this is easily and naturally carried out by bringing the best metropolitan clinics to the level of a rural outpatient clinic. As well as bringing the minimum wage to the minimum wage level is corrected by this very minimum wage level.
    6. codetalker
      codetalker 19 June 2020 15: 44 New
      -6
      Such questions arise only if a person (and this applies to all the "patriots" who have subscribed to your question below) has no idea about the basics of social power and public administration. Just as all processes in the world proceed in accordance with objective laws - the laws of physics / chemistry, etc. (identified and not identified), so public and state administration is based on certain objective laws. If a person is not familiar with them (and many can be identified simply on the basis of personal and professional experience), then he is always forced to accept someone else's point of view, which he likes best.
      Most people do not know in detail the principles of operation of a nuclear reactor. But it doesn’t occur to anyone to come to the nuclear power plant and download rights there in the spirit: “I think your station is bad. My head swells when I pass by. Close quickly! ”
      This does not mean that one must live by the principle: "He who needs it understands, and he who does not understand does not need it." This means - you need to study the issue that interests you. The materials on the net are the sea. If there is time to write nonsense in the comments, then enough time for textbooks.
      1. depressant
        depressant 19 June 2020 16: 56 New
        +8
        Studying the issues of government is not the business of an ordinary citizen, a colleague of codetalker. To each his own. Address your wishes to the government and the president. At one time, without signing the UN Convention on Combating Corruption, so that "friends" could become financially stronger, Putin stopped the country's development. We will assume that we have made a mistake. It would be a crime to ratify the Convention now. Since there will follow a terrible, but justified by the Convention, pressure from the West on our domestic laws, each of which has 50 shades of gray, that is, corruption components. It is impossible to shovel the entire monstrous volume of laws heaped up by the Duma for cleaning up overnight. And the Duma will not do this. And it was necessary to get out of the crisis yesterday. But in the conditions of rampant corruption of laws and theft of public funds - theft fed by these laws, nothing will come of it. Obviously, tough squabbles with people of bureaucratic nationality will really follow in order to fulfill at least what will be included in the Constitution in the form of amendments. But citizens have life experience. He helpfully slips pictures of how the president’s enthusiasm just fades and turns into nothing, how his initiatives do not reach the consumer, and many of his promises, as a result of the inversion of his consciousness, turn into their opposite. The same fate will befall the amendments. They will be forgotten. And their legislative counterparts have long been in the hands of bureaucrats, and just as they did not work properly before, they will not work that way now.
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 19 June 2020 17: 01 New
          +4
          Everyone must master the knowledge of management. Now it is becoming as necessary as it once became to learn to write / read, etc.
      2. AUL
        AUL 19 June 2020 17: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: codetalker
        Such questions arise only if a person (and this applies to all the "patriots" who have subscribed to your question below) has no idea about the basics of social power and public administration.

        So it should be understood that you have a clear idea about all this? Will you refuse to tell us where and by whom you work and what time, so that we can judge your competence in this matter?
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 19 June 2020 17: 29 New
          -2
          You can work anywhere, this does not interfere with self-education. But if you are interested, I work at one of the universities in Moscow. I do not claim to have all the knowledge in at least some area. However, following the principle: “Practice is the criterion of truth”, as well as relying on my personal and professional experience, on the experience of other people described in scientific and educational literature, I gained some understanding of public administration.
    7. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 19 June 2020 18: 32 New
      -7
      Quote: Dead Day
      who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?

      No one bothered. But no one forbade having accounts in foreign banks and foreign passports of the state. employees. If there were these amendments before, then probably they would not give so much land to the Chinese, the shelves to the Norwegians, mattresses.
    8. New Year day
      New Year day 19 June 2020 19: 41 New
      12
      Quote: Dead Day
      who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?

      Something always disturbs a bad dancer. Maybe it’s not the beds that need to be moved, but the maintenance staff to change?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 19 June 2020 21: 20 New
        11
        Colleague hi, "these", on the contrary, decided to fix their "beds", to give the environment pink tones, to isolate themselves from citizens and reality. It is not surprising that the "institution" is increasingly acquiring a corresponding, "characteristic" form.
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    9. iouris
      iouris 19 June 2020 22: 57 New
      +1
      Not "who", but "what" - the Constitution of the Russian Federation!
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    12. zenion
      zenion 20 June 2020 13: 32 New
      0
      So already lived humanly, but the rulers wanted to become princes and pillar nobles.
    13. RusKosTen
      RusKosTen 21 June 2020 08: 45 New
      +2
      Those. Are you happy with everything at the moment?
    14. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 23 June 2020 09: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Dead Day
      who prevented from living humanly before the "amendments"? who prevented the economy from building a normal?

      "In our version, they will earn money in Russia, and after retirement they will live in London ..."
      You make life in Russia like in London and people don’t go. In general, it’s a private matter for everyone where to live. Young people, specialists leave Russia because there is nothing to catch here.
  2. Svarog
    Svarog 19 June 2020 13: 24 New
    34
    Just because the “mess” that exists today and on which we live today does not suit me.

    And what about the amendments? And I thought in theft, corruption, nepotism and total stupidity .. That the amendments will eradicate this? So it is also necessary to introduce into the Constitution that it is impossible to attach children and relatives to warm places, to steal, etc. .. will we live soon? I’m wondering, after the vote, when will everything remain the same and absolutely nothing will change (except zeroing), but only the author will worsen, will he feel like not a smart person?
    1. Revival
      Revival 19 June 2020 13: 38 New
      19
      There is such a profession ...
      Will not ..
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 19 June 2020 21: 33 New
      11
      Vladimir, hello! Remembering the other articles of the Author, "before", you realize that the colossus of false propaganda works in an outrageous mode.
  3. About 2
    About 2 19 June 2020 13: 26 New
    34
    I congratulate the author, go and vote for, only I think there are few "patriots" like you. According to the logic of the Tsar Vova, this mess in the constitution did not allow him to build a strong and economically independent state for 20 years, they say, the tsar has nothing to do with it
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 19 June 2020 14: 28 New
      23
      Quote: About 2
      I congratulate the author

      Sasha still hopes for a compromise between the government and the people. But the rubicon has already been completed. A revolution is already inevitable, while it is not known, from above or from below. hi
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 19 June 2020 14: 43 New
        +9
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Sasha still hopes for a compromise between the government and the people. But the rubicon has already been completed. A revolution is already inevitable, while it is not known, from above or from below.

        Colleague, I completely agree with you, a revolution is already inevitable. hi
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 19 June 2020 16: 10 New
          17
          A socialist revolution is inevitable by definition, the whole question is in the timing .. For now - we see a rapid loss of control over the top, and extreme bitterness over the past 30 years below .. Well - if you follow the immortal thesis of Ilyich - the matter is small, we need a communist party. And the real exuberant headed ..
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 19 June 2020 16: 15 New
            12
            Quote: paul3390
            Well - if you follow the immortal thesis of Ilyich - the matter is small, we need a communist party. And the real exuberant headed ..

            Comrade, I categorically welcome drinks and I declare that until October 1917 Ilyich also knew few.
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 19 June 2020 16: 19 New
              15
              That's just it .. And there were about 20 thousand Bolsheviks all over Russia .. But it’s how Avon turned around .. But for us - one thing is clear, everyone who shares communist beliefs must juicyly join the Communist Party .. Which ones are not so important , along the way, we’ll figure it out. In general, it would probably be better in the Communist Party to cooperate in throwing out Zyuganov opportunists from it and turning it into a real workers' party. For it seems - the time is coming .. And we must be prepared for the Second Great Socialist Revolution ..
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 19 June 2020 16: 26 New
                +9
                Quote: paul3390
                For it seems - the time is coming .. And we must be prepared for the Second Great Socialist Revolution ..

                Let's hope that everything happens on the anniversary of the First.
                Quote: paul3390
                In general, it would probably be better in the Communist Party to cooperate in throwing out Zyuganov opportunists from it and turning it into a real workers' party.

                I agree! good
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 19 June 2020 21: 41 New
                  +9
                  In general, it would probably be better in the Communist Party to cooperate in throwing out Zyuganov opportunists from it and turning it into a real workers' party.

                  The authorities are trying to drive a stake into the ranks of the opposition. So far it has been successful. Some people still hope to break out of the shackles of slavery by simply saying "no" in a fabricated "hollow", not realizing that

                  "The horse is dead - get off!" (C) old Indian proverb
    2. codetalker
      codetalker 19 June 2020 15: 50 New
      -1
      go and vote for, only I think there will be a little like you

      Well, polls show that more than half of the population ... It can be assumed that they do not provide objective data, but you can’t even have such data.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 19 June 2020 20: 05 New
        -24 qualifying.
        Notice, on this branch amendments and “brand” amendments from the power of 1,5 dozen people. But a lot of stigmatized.
        In this case, the author has not given a real objection!
        Everything is subject to one goal - any amendment to the Constitution from Putin is bad. And Putin himself in power is bad.
        Here is some kind of “democrat” with three passports, sitting on Soros grants, acting “in accordance with international laws” on the territory of the Russian Federation - this is a shine!
        Put cons, "patriots."
        Us army!
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 19 June 2020 20: 42 New
          -14 qualifying.
          Yes, less than 10% of these whiners. As usual. The exhaust is just a lot.
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 22 June 2020 22: 24 New
            +1
            Then why do your minuses have more, and they have no minuses, although you say that there are very few "whiners"?
            1. codetalker
              codetalker 22 June 2020 23: 07 New
              0
              In addition to the “whiners,” no one jumps from branch to branch in order to zaminusvat all objectionable.
              On that and burned. Active users at least 400. You can count.
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 23 June 2020 10: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: codetalker
                In addition to the “whiners,” no one jumps from branch to branch in order to zaminusvat all objectionable.

                Typical speeches by Peskov. Mustache is a beautiful marquise. The country is moving in the right direction. A little bit more, the West will rot and Russia will become the most-most in the world.
        2. iouris
          iouris 19 June 2020 22: 59 New
          -9
          Do not worry: they will go and support! But we must also buck up (purely democratically!).
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 19 June 2020 19: 45 New
      17
      Quote: About 2
      go and vote for, only I think there are few "patriots" like you

      I ask them: the amendments will be legalized and Medvedev will become president. Thanks to the amendments, he will rule forever (theoretically).
      Question itself: how will you react to the eternal liberal president Medvedev? But he is preparing to replace GDP
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 19 June 2020 20: 35 New
        -13 qualifying.
        Why are you lying? Medvedev can be president for no more than 12 years. As the others. Just his previous dates are not taken into account.
  4. Doctor
    Doctor 19 June 2020 13: 26 New
    16
    The fight in the elections will be between other candidates.

    This is scary. Bulk sitting on the throne indefinitely.
    For this purpose, a time limit was invented even in the Roman Republic, so that the schizoid did not sit in power for decades.
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 19 June 2020 13: 35 New
      -1
      Quote: Arzt
      For this, a time limit was invented e

      Correct if I am mistaken, but the abolition of this restriction is not provided for by the amendments. At least for Navalny for sure.
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 19 June 2020 14: 17 New
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        Correct if I am mistaken, but the abolition of this restriction is not provided for by the amendments. At least for Navalny for sure.

        No, you are not mistaken, everything is done only under the current president. But the precedent is set.
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 19 June 2020 16: 05 New
      +7
      You forgot that the Roman Republic very quickly turned into a dictatorship, and such as Nero, Caligula perfectly ruled for many years
      1. Doctor
        Doctor 19 June 2020 16: 20 New
        +6
        You forgot that the Roman Republic very quickly turned into a dictatorship, and such as Nero, Caligula perfectly ruled for many years

        Well, why very quickly, for about 500 years, a republic / empire.
        Yes, they ruled, and remembered them as schizoids, for the system of control of the supreme power disappeared.
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 19 June 2020 17: 48 New
        +5
        Well - the Romans had their own rule on despots. And Caligula, and Nero, and subsequent bad princeps - usually ended their days in a violent way. And pretty fast in the time there ..
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    1. snake
      snake 19 June 2020 15: 20 New
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      And how sweet it sings! Let us accept the amendments and the soul rushed to heaven: we will help all the Russians abroad; and everything will be fine in Donbas; and monuments of the Second World War will not be demolished; and the State Duma (in which EdRo will also dominate) will get better; and everywhere, and everything will get better; and universal grace will begin, and the goodness of the air ... For this, such a little is needed - to come and vote "for".
      "Fresh" legend ...
    2. codetalker
      codetalker 19 June 2020 15: 52 New
      -22 qualifying.
      that the MOST MAJOR amendment is zeroing

      This is your expert opinion, or with the men in the smoking room frayed?)
  6. Sergey39
    Sergey39 19 June 2020 13: 32 New
    -42 qualifying.
    Absolutely correct article.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 19 June 2020 14: 45 New
      14
      Absolutely
      even more Ku

  7. Alex66
    Alex66 19 June 2020 13: 32 New
    27
    And why can not you vote each amendment individually? After all, it immediately seems that all the good will not be fulfilled as it is now not being fulfilled. And they use only what the authorities need to smuggle: the zeroing and irresponsibility of the president.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 19 June 2020 13: 34 New
      13
      Quote: Alex66
      And why can not you vote each amendment individually? After all, it immediately seems that all the good will not be fulfilled as it is now not being fulfilled. And they use only what the authorities need to smuggle: the zeroing and irresponsibility of the president.

      Question questions !!! good
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 19 June 2020 14: 31 New
        25
        Quote: Corona without virus
        Question of questions!

        Everything is simple - all other amendments are just a screen for one. If divided, then the whole point of the amendments is lost.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 19 June 2020 16: 52 New
          +9
          Putin’s marketers have worked well, that’s it.
        2. Lexus
          Lexus 19 June 2020 22: 19 New
          11
          Igor, welcome! hi

          the whole point of the amendments.

          the fact that the "grandfather's" appetites are constantly growing. And soon it may turn out that "I do not want to be a free queen" and urgently wants to become "the mistress of the sea." But we know how that fairy tale ended. Until then ...
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 19 June 2020 14: 48 New
      +9
      Why not
      Well, you know the answer
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 19 June 2020 19: 06 New
      12
      Quote: Alex66
      And why can not you vote each amendment individually? After all, right away it seems that all good things will not be fulfilled as they are not being fulfilled now. And they use only what the authorities need to drag: zeroing and irresponsibility of the president.

      That's right. This is what Pamfilova said in her famous speech about the salad of a complex lunch.
      - Well, you don't like vinaigrette, but you like borscht or meatballs. You then decide for yourself: no, I’ll refuse the whole dinner, because I don’t like the vinaigrette, or I’ll still take - I won’t eat a vinaigrette, it’s neither cold nor hot, and borsch and meatballs will be with me ...
      (c) E. Pamfilova. Head of the CEC. [/ B]
      1. V1er
        V1er 19 June 2020 20: 14 New
        +9
        Quote: Freeman
        That's right. This is what Pamfilova said in her famous speech about the salad of a complex lunch.

        Yeah. But the uniqueness of the situation is that we can’t refuse vinaigrette and eat only meatballs) We will eat this vinaigrette for many years to come, and if not to ourselves and without the right to choose) She considers us to be a countryman and the example is simply magnificent) Constitution compare with lunch in the canteen)
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 19 June 2020 22: 23 New
          +9
          Compare the constitution with lunch in the canteen)

          Not surprising. The "gastropods" have no other worries, food as their own insides. hi
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 19 June 2020 20: 53 New
        14
        vinaigrette from a set lunch.
        Alas, this is not vinaigrette. It is swine for pigs. Borsch, meatballs vinaigrette, bread, compote. all in one pan.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 19 June 2020 22: 33 New
          14
          In fact, for ordinary mortals, "borscht" will invariably consist only of water with a taste of diesel fuel and rusks from feed grains. All statements by the aforementioned madam are an absurd cartoon for the "believers".
  8. Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 19 June 2020 13: 35 New
    -45 qualifying.
    Thanks to the author .... Today you can see more articles from "riders", jumping, swords to the left, waving to the right! All screaming is gone! Everything is bad! Don't vote! And why not walk, not vote, they do not really speak. Some sets of incomprehensible phrases flowing into empty sentences .... And even more so absolutely no alternative proposals ... I already wrote that it is difficult to control all the officials, but after the adoption of the amendments, many will not be able to get into power, but for many " the feeder "will close .... Is that bad?
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        1. Varyag71
          Varyag71 19 June 2020 14: 15 New
          21
          Real people of their homeland absolutely do not care about you and your kind. The country continues to plunge into the abyss of obscurantism, and you continue to scream how wonderful everything is! How the Constitution will be signed now (only it has been signed for a long time), but how do everyone live .... How much do you pay? Or are you so blind and stupid that you don’t see the obvious ?!
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            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 19 June 2020 14: 40 New
              13
              Of course, everything is so! We work together with Vikusey. She’s just baking cookies now. What to tell her?
            2. Varyag71
              Varyag71 19 June 2020 14: 43 New
              15
              Crimean, if you are, of course, from there, tell me better how they destroy Taigan, how Zubkov is dragged in the courts more often than he sees his family. Or how tidbits of the earth are taken away in Crimea.
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                1. Varyag71
                  Varyag71 19 June 2020 15: 29 New
                  16
                  Clearly, there is nothing for the literate, apparently, to answer my questions, only all honest people have them. And yes, it was I personally, with my tacit consent and connivance, allowed everything. True, I was 9 years old, but nothing, this is not so important. I repent, I won’t do that again.
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                    1. Varyag71
                      Varyag71 19 June 2020 16: 05 New
                      +8
                      Yes, I go to Crimea only because of the Taigan!
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                      2. Varyag71
                        Varyag71 19 June 2020 16: 25 New
                        +8
                        Oh, laugh. I won’t come to you, but Taigan will visit with pleasure
                  2. Varyag71
                    Varyag71 19 June 2020 16: 05 New
                    +5
                    Hotel construction?
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                    2. Varyag71
                      Varyag71 19 June 2020 16: 15 New
                      14
                      I am not a drinker and an athlete. It’s good that they are building. And when will they build it on the mainland? Visit the provincial provinces and be surprised at what rickety schools and hospitals look like.
                      As far as I remember, as Crimea joined, immediately 40000 Jewish families applied for citizenship with residence in the Crimea. Is this all done for them?
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          2. Oleg Skvortsov
            Oleg Skvortsov 19 June 2020 16: 10 New
            21
            Crimea, not all of the daughters of officers are so unique. And do not answer for everyone. Crimeans have already seen enough of the Moscow occupiers, greedy for land and Crimean assets. The times of 2014 are gone forever
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    2. AK1972
      AK1972 19 June 2020 15: 25 New
      17
      Quote: Varyag71
      The country continues to plunge into the abyss of obscurantism, and you continue to scream how wonderful everything is!

      Yes sir! And the apotheosis of this obscurantism and clinical insanity is the introduction of God (not legally defined) into the Constitution, while preserving the article that the Russian Federation is a secular state. Erdogan cries with envy, because Allah is not mentioned in the Constitution of Islamic Turkey. Truly take off the cross or put on your underpants.
    3. codetalker
      codetalker 19 June 2020 15: 54 New
      -18 qualifying.
      “Real people” to which you rank yourself, in our country, less than 10%, which is clearly visible even in this forum.
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 19 June 2020 16: 07 New
        +6
        Judging by the English nickname you can immediately see from which country you are
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 19 June 2020 16: 13 New
          -10 qualifying.
          You judging by the nickname is also not from Russia)
          1. Varyag71
            Varyag71 19 June 2020 16: 23 New
            12
            Voronezh is still a Russian city. True, they always bomb him, since there are no relatives and friends of power here laughing
  • depressant
    depressant 19 June 2020 15: 05 New
    14
    Tatyana Sementsova, yesterday I already explained, though not to you, what is the point - no, not voting, but the fact that the authorities organized voting. Once again I will patiently explain. In order to shift the blame to the people for the subsequent economic failures of the country. If the result of the vote on the amendments turns out to be "for", but under the conditions of the amendments, by the autumn the economy has turned out to be a breeze, and it will undoubtedly work out, - well, you, having voted "for", took responsibility for the country upon yourself and blame only yourself. If the result of the vote turns out to be "against", and by the autumn the economy will have a zilch, but it will work out, everything goes to him, then the people will again be made to blame for the zilch. Like, the amendments have not entered. But if they did, then by the fall, the economy would have sped up. It turns out that the people are always to blame. In the first case - because he took the burden, but did not handle it. In the second - because he did not want to take. And so it will be.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 19 June 2020 18: 42 New
      15
      I am here, constantly reminding you of those "amendments" which, for some reason, bypass the mention of "patriotic scribblers" and which, reinforce the existing arbitrariness of the authorities, "nullify" them, give them additional rights and deprive other citizens of these rights. I will not quote them again. I will dwell only on the so-called "pension amendment", which they like to declare here, hiding its essence, namely, it speaks about the consolidation of the "solidary" type of pension savings, that is, the state smoothly moved away from its participation in these savings, shifting the savings into the pension system to citizens and "private traders". What is it, huh? Well, I will give my previous post on the topic of why they came up with this "vote":
      These amendments have indeed already been adopted, and the Duma and the Constitutional Court and the Council of Federations, all spoke in favor, the president's signature remained. But as he understands perfectly well that by automatically putting his signature on these so-called amendments, he finally discredits himself in the eyes of normal people - well, wherever it has been seen, to "nullify" himself, to introduce into management a clan fight, eternal senators, to deprive people will defend their rights with international courts and protect themselves from these very international courts, etc. and at the same time do not even “blush”. Therefore, this circus with the so-called voting was invented. Moreover, at the very beginning, they said in clear language that this vote has no legitimacy, it is just such a "personal will of the president" who allegedly wanted to know the opinion of the "people." But only. But the point is that this notorious vote, regardless of how the citizens vote "for" or "against", does the most important thing - this vote gives legitimacy to everything that happens. That is, since you vote, then after the vote the president will have the legal right to sign all these "amendments" - the people have voted. Moreover, the result for those who started all this is absolutely uninteresting - it will be announced, the one that is needed. Now no one will count manually, the media are not allowed to check votes, so you can guess it is clear what the result will be ... Who will check something from the "independents" there? Nobody! And the result is not important! This is not a "referendum" or an "official electoral vote" - where representatives of the verifying parties are present, it is simply "a vote of the president's free will"! - that is, he simply finds out how many "for" and how many "against" and only! and having learned the opinion of citizens, he will calmly sign these amendments. Once again, the voting was invented to give legitimacy to the process of adopting the amendments and in order to shift the consequences of their adoption to the people, "you came and voted" ... and figs, you then, to whom will you prove that you voted against. It will not be interesting to anyone. After a fight, they don't wave their fists.
  • Revival
    Revival 19 June 2020 13: 35 New
    42
    There are no censorship words to express what nonsense is written!
    This is how much you need to be either with a handful of silver or "not understanding everything" so as not to blush to write this!
    1. As for property and citizenship.
    Hey!
    There is a Fed Law since 2006! Prohibiting dual citizenship! What are you talking about?
    Or is the sacred paper used in the constitution and now they don’t laugh?
    Law small things chtoli what?
    Since 2013 there is a Fed Law on property and accounts abroad, so what? The question is the same!
    1. Tatyana Sementsova
      Tatyana Sementsova 19 June 2020 14: 08 New
      -33 qualifying.
      Then the squeal about the amendments is all the more incomprehensible ..... They will accept and will not be fulfilled, then we must shout. Or, again, something wrong?
      1. Kalmar
        Kalmar 19 June 2020 14: 23 New
        17
        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
        They will accept and will not be fulfilled

        And for this, no one really cares: well, rearrange the beds again, you think. Say, personally, I’m much more worried about some innovations (yes, I’m talking about zeroing the president as well), which will work for all 146%.
        1. Tatyana Sementsova
          Tatyana Sementsova 19 June 2020 16: 33 New
          -21 qualifying.
          Well, that’s understandable ..... Of course, you won’t be able to compete with him in the elections ... Therefore, you’re nervous .... But this is not Putin’s problem, right?
          1. Kalmar
            Kalmar 19 June 2020 17: 41 New
            13
            Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
            Of course you can’t compete with him in the elections

            Somehow I didn’t plan. Actually, in the current political situation with semi-elections, no one can. (caution sarcasm) Can we even imagine that someone more worthy than Sam will ever be born in our country? (sarcasm is over)

            Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
            Therefore, you are nervous

            Not therefore. I’m nervous for the country and for where it is heading. And for how my children will live in it.

            Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
            But this is not Putin’s problem, is it?

            Frankly, his problems bother me very little. I am sure he is doing well, but with the amendments it will be even better.
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 20 June 2020 11: 20 New
              -4
              I am also confident that the amendments will be better.
              And to compare Putin’s work done is really difficult with the work done by those who were before him .... It’s easier to say that before him Russia was ravaged and destroyed, and Putin raised it already from the ditch!
      2. Revival
        Revival 19 June 2020 15: 07 New
        11
        I think one will definitely be executed, but why then if it retains a position in which the federal laws are not executed
      3. bk0010
        bk0010 19 June 2020 20: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
        Then the squeal about the amendments is all the more incomprehensible ..... They will accept and will not be fulfilled, then we must shout. Or, again, something wrong?
        Well, they cut off your leg, then you will scream. Well, sew back, what's wrong again?
        1. Tatyana Sementsova
          Tatyana Sementsova 20 June 2020 11: 22 New
          -4
          What are you going to cut? Your income from your squeal? They always screeched and will screech! And always paid for it and will pay !!!! So don’t worry !!!! wink
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 20 June 2020 12: 43 New
            +5
            Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
            What are you going to cut?
            My country is being cut, plundered, and now they want to not only extend this process, but also get immunity from retaliation for this.
            Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
            Your income from your squeal?
            Do not judge for yourself others: if you are paid for a screech, then this does not mean that all of them are.
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 20 June 2020 15: 04 New
              -5
              Well, you scream (wolves! Wolves!) In which country do you live? How and who cuts it? How does Putin steal it? Well, I'm really tired of listening to this already ..... Can't you think of anything else? Really screech for the squeal .....
              1. bk0010
                bk0010 20 June 2020 15: 36 New
                +4
                Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                How and who cuts it?
                Yes, they cut it naturally: compare the number of hospitals at the beginning of Putin's rule and now. Or how many ships were built under Yeltsin and now. Come on now, at least in the "well-fed years" (2000-2008). Or the number of space launches in 2000 and now. Or how many villages have disappeared in the last 20 years (23000 !!!). And so for whatever it is.
                Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                How does Putin steal it?
                Maybe not him personally, but his friendships for sure. Gazprom was the most expensive company in the world, what is wrong with it now. Rosneft (Rosneft !!!) has huge debts, and sold part of this national treasure to the British. But the most understandable thing for you is the dollar exchange rate and the price of oil: now oil costs 41,96 and the dollar exchange rate is 69,44, approximately the same amount of oil cost in 2009 (dollar exchange rate 30) and 2005 (dollar exchange rate 28). We sell oil in about the same way. Why did the country pour oil money in the past, but now it doesn't? Because someone has adapted to steal any amount of money.
                1. Tatyana Sementsova
                  Tatyana Sementsova 20 June 2020 21: 53 New
                  0
                  So the sanctions against Russia are not clear why, in your opinion, they did not affect the Russian economy in any way? Well, as for Yeltsin’s time, you won’t tell me .... I drank everything that I managed, and dropped the army below the baseboard. Rampant banditry, lawlessness, and so on ...... What hospitals? Do you think that if you constantly take from the egg capsule and don’t put anything into it, then something will multiply there by itself? We found someone to compare with Putin .... drunk .Yeltsin !!!! A disgrace for the image of Russia! Himself not funny? Name
                  Actually the president who made for Russia at least as much as Putin did.
                  1. bk0010
                    bk0010 20 June 2020 22: 03 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                    So the sanctions against Russia are not clear why, in your opinion, they did not affect the Russian economy in any way?
                    Absolutely. Only the foolish west gave the aluminum industry.
                    Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                    Well, as for Yeltsin’s time, you won’t tell me .... I drank everything that I managed, and dropped the army below the baseboard. Rampant banditry, lawlessness and so on.
                    And now imagine that under Borka the drunk, the warships were built three times more, hospitals were not closed, schools were not closed. And now, according to the number of hospitals, we have rolled down to the mid-fifties and are confidently moving towards the post-war time.
                    Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                    Do you think that if you constantly take from the egg capsule and don’t put anything into it, then something will multiply there by itself?
                    So I want Putin’s friends to stop stealing from the eggbox what the whole country puts there.
                    Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                    Himself is not funny?
                    That's not funny at all.
                    Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                    Name really the president who made for Russia at least as much as Putin did.
                    Damn, well, think at least a little. To get started, do an exercise: just name the presidents of Russia (Medvedev can be ignored). It is easy to look good on the background of Yeltsin and Gorbachev.
                    1. Tatyana Sementsova
                      Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 08: 24 New
                      -1
                      You know, one idiot would be enough to ruin the life of the people of the whole country .... A simple example is Poroshenko ...... The dollar before him cost 8 grams. Now 26, and salaries have not risen. In the country, the civil war, industry, especially its key industries, are destroyed, plundered, sold. People are jumping. Recognize fascism. Monuments are felled, it is forbidden to speak and teach children in schools in Russian. They want to join NATO. To list further? And this is under one president! Now the second, the clown, all the same, the collapse of the country is increasing .....
                      You listed two presidents before Putin .... They were about the same figures ... One destroyed the USSR and fled to live abroad, the other drank half of Russia and died from blue ... When Putin became president, Russia "lay in ditch "It already had no army, its industry was in decline, its image in the world community was absent .... What now? The army is the strongest in the world. Not a single serious problem in the world can be solved without Putin. Russia's potential is growing ...
                      That is why the "patriots" of Russia want to replace him with people like they were before. Precisely because the West is not satisfied with the growing power of Russia, the special services, with the help of fake throwers and the Internet, are trying to hang on Putin everything they can in order to replace him from the presidency ... And you know all this very well ... ..
                      . Of course, this is your constant nagging and screaming --- everything is bad, it has become even worse, the guard, robbing, sawing, torturing, is bearing fruit. But you cannot make idiots out of the people of Russia and make them ride on the squares .... People, for the most part, understand who is worth what and who needs to be chosen.
                      1. bk0010
                        bk0010 21 June 2020 10: 57 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                        When Putin became president, Russia was "lying in a ditch." It had no army, industry was in decline, and its image in the world community was absent.
                        In the first two terms, I have no complaints against Putin. It could have been done better (to effectively use oil money for development), but it turned out well.
                        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                        The army is the strongest in the world. Without Putin, not a single serious problem can be solved in the world. The potential of Russia is growing .....
                        You need to watch less TV. Seriously. Especially about the army. No, with the PR of what is happening in the army, everything is cool. But with quantitative indicators - trouble.
                        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                        Of course, this is your constant nagging and screaming --- everything is bad, it has become even worse, the guard, robbing, sawing, torturing, is bearing fruit.
                        This is called truth.
                        Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                        But you cannot make idiots from the people of Russia
                        I don’t have such a goal, but you can see that they managed without me. So ignore reality!
                      2. Tatyana Sementsova
                        Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 11: 46 New
                        -1
                        Are the arguments over? Rudeness climbed? Here you are, fake throwers, most of them are .... All the best to you in your field.
                      3. bk0010
                        bk0010 21 June 2020 11: 54 New
                        +2
                        There is no rudeness here, you just have nothing to object to. You could not reasonably object to any of my arguments.
                      4. Tatyana Sementsova
                        Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 12: 49 New
                        0
                        Ha ha ha ha !!!! Have you brought any serious arguments? Is the army weak in Russia?
                        Does Putin steal oil money?
                        Sawing Russia! Without a knife you poor cut?
                        And for some reason at the end I was called an idiot ....... request
                        Just a class !!!! Western media and the media of their sixes, take off your hat !!!!! wassat
                        Excuse me. I’m no longer interested in talking with you .... Not just that ..... sad
                      5. bk0010
                        bk0010 21 June 2020 18: 20 New
                        +3
                        Yes, sorry for the idiot. It didn’t work out well. I didn’t think out a phrase.
                        They don’t cut me, everything is fine with me. But the country does not. And information about this is quite accessible, quite official, and not from opposition sites, it’s enough to type and compare what happened and what happened. Goodbye.
              2. ban
                ban 21 June 2020 14: 19 New
                +2
                "The army is the strongest in the world. Without Putin, not a single serious problem can be solved in the world. Russia's potential is growing ....."

                Smiled. Are you getting a lope of silvermen?
              3. Tatyana Sementsova
                Tatyana Sementsova 22 June 2020 07: 43 New
                0
                Alas. But I have great pleasure reading most of your comments on this resource. I especially like the way you amicably react with a minus one to the words - "Amendment", "Putin", in general, to everything that the majority of the Russian people like. I am touched by your solidarity and organization! laughing
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 19 June 2020 14: 15 New
    -32 qualifying.
    Eco you "patriots" of Russia tore it !!!!! It's just an article! Your articles - "not to vote" Putin is cheating, and so on, here, much more. what The bad thing for you is that the example of the state’s work to the tune of the West is near! 6 years have already jumped ..... And to what jump?
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 19 June 2020 16: 57 New
      21
      You are slightly substituting concepts. "Patriot of Russia" is not the same as "patriot of Putin". Patriots of Russia, I am sure, are the absolute majority on this site. And they sincerely do not understand why the same person has been in power for 146 years in a country with a population of 20 million and still will not leave.
      1. Tatyana Sementsova
        Tatyana Sementsova 19 June 2020 18: 33 New
        -16 qualifying.
        You probably don’t know, but I will tell you. Putin is in power, because in the next election, the people of Russia will choose him again and again ...... I understand you, patriots of Russia, such figures as Yeltsin, of course, are more satisfied, well, or like Sobchak, at worst .. ...... But experiments on ourselves, our children and families do not want to do something anymore ...... We’d better look sideways to Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states and be happy for them and their joyful careless future ... ... laughing
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 21 June 2020 09: 34 New
          +5
          Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
          because in the next election
          But how did it happen that, with the permissible maximum two terms of being in power, according to the current Constitution, Putin has been in power for 4 terms ?! Where is the rotation of power - one of the main democratic principles?
          Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
          I understand you, patriots of Russia, such figures as Yeltsin
          Putin is a man of Sobchak, who in turn was a prominent supporter of Yeltsin. Yeltsin approved Putin's candidacy. Why do you contrast these characters?
          1. Tatyana Sementsova
            Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 11: 11 New
            -3
            Set of empty collocations. Putin is in power because he is elected by the people, become a candidate in the next election and let the people choose you, no one bothers you ....
            Maybe at some time he was a supporter of Yeltsin, but he didn’t sit down with him, and he did not disgrace Russia at international meetings.
            I don’t know whose man he is there, but I wanted to give Crimea and Sevastopol to Ukraine as Sobchak’s own daughter, declaring this as a candidate, I’m not going to, I don’t, and I will never give it back! No wonder now the people will vote for amendments to the constitution. So all your arguments and claims to Putin, this is a finger to the sky .....
      2. flicker
        flicker 20 June 2020 11: 39 New
        -7
        Patriots of Russia, I am sure, an absolute majority on this site. And they sincerely do not understand why in the country with a 146-million population of 20 years the same person has been in power and still will not leave.

        The problem of the "patriots" of Russia on this site is that they do not know elementary mathematics.
        There are no more than 100 such "patriots" of Russia on this site (there are about 50 people on the topic here)
        ---
        Now compare 100 people on this site and 146 million across the country.
        ---
        And yes, most of the 146 million want to see Putin as president.
        ---
        Do you want to deny them this right?
        1. Mityasha
          Mityasha 21 June 2020 08: 37 New
          +5
          Dear, and by what right are you here voicing the votes of 146 million, are you the chairman of the election commission conducting a polls among the population? Do you own the information? Shame on you. I read the comments in the article, but you were forced to join.
          1. flicker
            flicker 21 June 2020 09: 54 New
            -5
            Dear, we are not the king, but the president, whom this same 4 million people elected 146 times. Those. most people vote for him.
            And the comments of 100 people (which you read) here on the site have always been against Putin, but this did not stop the people from voting for Putin.

            And you still don’t seem to understand this. For you people are comments of 100 people on this site.
            1. Mityasha
              Mityasha 21 June 2020 10: 27 New
              +7
              It looks like you squinted your eyes and your dreams come out on behalf of 146 million people. You are beyond the Moscow Ring Road when the last time you got out or beyond the Ural Mountains, to the north maybe. Open your eyes and never speak on behalf of 146 million. I am also one of them, like the people from this site. With your statements you are already lying !!!. Especially the extreme elections showed that even by the Fed. channels could not do the linden normal. 75% + 35% = 100 Wretchedness ...
              1. flicker
                flicker 21 June 2020 11: 34 New
                -3
                It looks like you squinted your eyes and your dreams come out on behalf of 146 million people
                You are a comedian!
                Once again: Putin ran 4 times for the presidency of Russia. And all 4 times the people (146 million people) in direct elections chose Putin as their majority.
                This is a FACT!
                ---
                You may not like this fact, but from this it does not cease to be a FACT!
                ---
                Although, for you, the fact is your opinion.
                ---
                I read the comments in the article, but you were forced to join.

                It’s good that you reported this, otherwise I would have thought that someone under the second nickname (did not dare under the first one) unsubscribed bully
                1. Mityasha
                  Mityasha 21 June 2020 11: 52 New
                  +3
                  Once again, who are you to operate 146 ml. by the people? You are juggling the facts. Elections 4 times do not talk about the choice of the people, but talk about numerous fraud, complicating every election, and regardless of the opinion. You are not aware that the turnout threshold is canceled?
                  Regarding joining the discussion, this has nothing to do with the second nickname and the third. I answered you simply because of your "mouthpiece" about 146 million people. Don't overcomplicate. You are just openly lying, passing off wishful thinking on the site, without knowing it ...
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 21 June 2020 09: 37 New
          +4
          Quote: flicker
          And yes, most of the 146 million want to see Putin as president.
          I well remember how the authorities at the last moment frantically manipulated the election results in favor of a candidate from United Russia in the elections of the governor of Primorsky Krai in 2018, when the communist practically won. And after that you want to tell me that the people go and vote for Putin? lol
          1. flicker
            flicker 21 June 2020 11: 17 New
            -4
            And after that you want to tell me that the people go and vote for Putin?
            Are you not friends with facts?
            The people 4 times through direct voting chose Putin.
            Once again, this is a historical and statistical FACT!
            ---
            And if so, then there is reason to say that most of the 146 million support Putin.
            On the other hand, count the number of anti-Putin whiners here on the VO site, you will count them about 100 people.
            ---
            And the fact that you are sculpting here about some kind of elections in the Primorsky Territory, where there was rigging in favor of unicorn (maybe it wasn’t, but there was rigging in favor of a communist - all at the rumor level) - all this is BLESSING ANCIENT.
            1. Mityasha
              Mityasha 21 June 2020 14: 47 New
              +2
              If people who were unable to thanks to the current course bought a weak computer, were able to pay tyrnet and go online with you, then 100000 million would definitely spit in your direction. People far from the center survive, pensioners cannot make ends meet, what elections are for, they think how not to die of hunger and be able to leave something for their children. The remaining 46 million, the population of Moscow, St. Petersburg, cities of millionaires, which also do not particularly boom, who can steal or sit in the trough and vote only about what's good now, not thinking that someone can’t buy school uniforms or the sea in I’ve never seen my life, not talking about the Internet.
          2. Tatyana Sementsova
            Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 11: 22 New
            -1
            Do you remember, maybe you dreamed .... What to do to those who do not remember this? Listen to you and trust you? If Putin suits the people of Russia you can’t do anything ... AND GLORY TO GOD! And then they would start to jump if people like you took seriously ..... hi
        3. Tatyana Sementsova
          Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 11: 18 New
          -1
          These 100 will now begin to minus you ... People on a salary .... It doesn’t happen that a normal person, in their right mind, would not agree with iron arguments .....
          1. Mityasha
            Mityasha 21 June 2020 11: 56 New
            +2
            People without wages, do not look for the 5th column, there are those who do not share your opinion. And believe me that people in their right mind do not agree with the arguments, because they do not exist. The fact that a person has already been at the helm 4 times does not mean that he was chosen, it means that the system is working. Thanks to the grandfather for the "victory", now the woman!
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 12: 53 New
              -1
              Stormy applause!
              I’ll tell you one clever thing --- your candidates can become presidents only in countries such as Ukraine, where there is external management ......
              1. Mityasha
                Mityasha 21 June 2020 13: 43 New
                +2
                Or Moldova. YOU are so categorical. I can say for good reason that you are a student studying in the United States, moonlighting on the site ... Does it work? Prove the opposite, daughter from the Crimea! laughing
          2. flicker
            flicker 21 June 2020 12: 52 New
            -2
            These 100 will now begin to minus you.
            I have their cons, like a balm for the soul.
            . People on a paycheck ....
            It may very well be.
            I commented below, there is a character "dedkastary" here, who, within 4 minutes after the article appeared, was noted with no comments and received a bunch of likes.
            Those. I managed to read not a small article and rattled the comment, and all in 4 minutes.
            He's generally a talent, early in the morning somewhere around 05:40 an article comes out, about 10 minutes later there is a comment from "dedkastariy". Further, his colleagues occupy the first lines of comments. There are several more characters (snail, stas ...) who also manage to unsubscribe before dawn.
            So it may very well be.
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 13: 00 New
              0
              I also drew attention to these characters ..... Well, God bless them ...... Let the bourgeois spend money on them ..... The louder they hiss at us, the more I am sure that Russia going in the right direction. And that after the adoption of the amendments, there will be fewer "patriots" in the power structures!
              1. Mityasha
                Mityasha 21 June 2020 13: 45 New
                +2
                it remains to ride, who does not ride, the enemy of Russia. Is everything okay with your head?
              2. Mityasha
                Mityasha 21 June 2020 14: 38 New
                +1
                Okay, I’ll go to the dumplings of Zim, I will smear the gorillas and I’ll eat chakhokhbili with Satsivi!
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 22 June 2020 19: 23 New
    -1
    There is a Fed Law since 2006! Prohibiting dual citizenship!
    open ... read
    http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_36927/85ccbff71854900d7c7a24c37ad43f0ab2fc3dfa/

    2. Acquisition of another citizenship by a citizen of the Russian Federation does not entail the termination of the citizenship of the Russian Federation. i.e. 2nd citizenship ALLOWED
  • Quasipatriot
    Quasipatriot 19 June 2020 13: 40 New
    29
    The State Duma and the Federation Council are 3/4 of the United Russia party. Therefore, the laws will be adopted by those who own the party. Who created the party, that's right, Father Tsar. What will change, transfer part of the powers from the president to parliament (the Duma and the council), that's right, nothing. Who are the richest deputies / "patriots", rightly, members of Edra. Who most often issues pearls in the spirit of "the state did not ask you to give birth", "it is the people who owe the state, and not we to you", "mnogokonfssyfs ... anal edge"? That's right, Edr members. So maybe it is not the constitution that needs to be changed, but the people in the United Russia party?
    1. Tatyana Sementsova
      Tatyana Sementsova 19 June 2020 14: 11 New
      -26 qualifying.
      Well, if they "create", as in the Verkhovna Rada, then of course they will leave ..... And now, what does not suit you?
  • Revival
    Revival 19 June 2020 13: 40 New
    24
    While praising the amendments, the author managed to raise and lay out all the "dirt" about how things are
    This is a puncture!
    laughing
  • marchcat
    marchcat 19 June 2020 13: 41 New
    16
    Yes, it is not the constitution that needs to be ruled, but the ruling class! Ruthlessly remove thieves and slammers engaged in unsubscribing and blowing dust into the eyes.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 19 June 2020 13: 57 New
      +9
      will not help. For a long period, that's for sure. The system will still lead everyone to the same denominator.
  • Revival
    Revival 19 June 2020 13: 42 New
    21
    Clear..
    Soloviev Kisilev staver ....
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 19 June 2020 16: 58 New
      +7
      There still Kamenev must be in this company.
      1. Revival
        Revival 19 June 2020 19: 24 New
        +2
        Kamenev like under Stalin ...
        And you know there is something in it.
        Let's add ..
        Mmm ..
  • rocket757
    rocket757 19 June 2020 13: 43 New
    +9
    Neither worse nor better. THE SYSTEM remains the same ... and the implementation of laws, new, old, any, must be guaranteed for EVERYONE!
    Vote for, as I have no doubt about it ... will not change, consider nothing ... I also have no doubt about it.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 19 June 2020 13: 48 New
    29
    It is clear that not all amendments that are personally interesting to me are considered in this material.

    You and others like you are not interested in amendments, not in the economic condition of the industrial complex, not in the dominance of people with foreign real estate, bank accounts in the names of parents and imperfect children. You are of little interest, therefore, none of you have explained how a healthy person can live on 12 rubles a month.
    You are only interested in continuing to be in bread positions. Intimidation, outright fraud and unfounded accusations, threats, legal chaos - these are your methods, this is your voting system.
    And I personally will go to vote and I will vote “AGAINST”! I’m not much interested in what should “appear, ascend, run up, get off the slipways, soar into the sky, fill purses, etc.” by 2035. I can not and I do not want to listen to this nonsense, not supported by absolutely no experience.
    It took Stalin 16 years before the war to make an industrial power from an agrarian country and 8 years to restore the economy destroyed by the war. And you shed tears for a quarter of a century and only complain about everything and everyone.
    So give an opportunity to work for those who know what needs to be done. Those who are not shy about their friends.
    Only your own opinion is important to you, only your own “rightness” is valuable. But we need a socialist state, when the proceeds from the sale of natural resources go to the benefit and prosperity of society.
    1. smel
      smel 19 June 2020 14: 41 New
      21
      Totally agree with you. I’ll go and vote AGAINST. My wife and children’s families will vote in the same way. I am already sick of this bacchanalia among the poor oligarchs and the awarding of state awards for outstanding services to them. Who is stopping our sun-faced and Co. to achieve compliance with the laws of the Russian Federation ??? Everything is painted there: both about citizenship, and about foreign real estate., And about indexing. Let me remind you that it is the EP, which has settled in our Duma forever, that does not allow us to comply with laws already written and signed. Remember at least the reduction factor !! And when did our armed forces raise money allowance ?? But about this, too, the paper is maral. Last Decree of the President on conferring the highest ranks !!! Shame on you! On the Day of Russia in the VoorSily, our Supreme was able to assign only one colonel gene, four lieutenants, ten general majors and three counter-admirals. This is despite the fact that in these posts colonels have already been laborers for 2-3 years. It is a pity to him a shoulder strap and a bottle of vodka (this is the difference in the salary of the general and colonel). Even Medvedev was more polite that day.
      Let me remind you about closed cases without punishment - Raspadskaya mine is 91 people. Kursk. Tragedy at the Bratsk Hydroelectric Power Station. Ehh. The constitution is not the same.
      In the Constitution, it should be possible after 4 (and now 6) years to any voter who once participated in the presidential election to give an assessment of their period of life during this time. If at least 1% of the number of voters say that the tali live worse than those who began to live better than the President need a year in the zone. Two percent means 2 years. 10 percent means to the tower. Only then will the President and Co. think about people. And we remember the first Decree which was signed on December 31, 1999! Right, about EBN immunity
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 19 June 2020 14: 44 New
      15
      Quote: ROSS 42
      So give an opportunity to work for those who know what needs to be done. Those who are not shy about their friends.

      They won't. Voluntarily they will not refuse from the stolen, "privatized".
      1. Tatyana Sementsova
        Tatyana Sementsova 21 June 2020 13: 06 New
        0
        "We'd better take a detached look at those where the clowns were allowed to rule the country ...."
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 21 June 2020 13: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
          "We'd better take a detached look at those where the clowns were allowed to rule the country ...."

          Look, from Moldova. Do you have enough of your problems there?
          1. Tatyana Sementsova
            Tatyana Sementsova 22 June 2020 08: 01 New
            0
            Enough. The same clowns. I say - there are many examples. Moldova, Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia, but Ukraine is the coolest of course !!!!! A solid circus. Therefore, I worry about Russia!
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 22 June 2020 09: 53 New
              -1
              Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
              Enough. The same clowns. I say - there are many examples. Moldova, Ukraine, the Baltic states, Georgia, but Ukraine is the coolest of course !!!!! A solid circus. Therefore, I worry about Russia!

              Our ghouls themselves have put their hands to Ukraine, now they are waging trade wars with Belarus, with the only normal ally in the entire post-Soviet space, the greed and stupidity of our ghouls is simply amazing. Amendments are made to the constitution, where solidarity is consolidated (see Italian fascism) openly through central channels they say that Musolini was not so bad, they admire Pinochet, etc. Aren't clowns? Clowns, like in the movie "It".
              1. Tatyana Sementsova
                Tatyana Sementsova 22 June 2020 10: 32 New
                0
                I do not think so
                Normality for money is extortion. There is no doubt that Lukashenko is much more cunning than those who put foreign aid to help ..... The collective farmer understands that without the Russian market, without Russian oil and gas at low prices, Belarus kirdyk .... He plays the fraternity and constantly requires tariffs for purchases at domestic prices. At the same time, Lukashenko does not recognize Crimea as Russian; he began conducting military exercises together with NATO. Russian military bases, in Belarus for free, are already unnerving him .... Sanctions European goods are trying to resell to Russia, passing them off as their own and are very indignant when Russia does not buy them. And when critical moments come, as now, before the elections, he begins to remember the brotherhood, opens the monuments, speaks intensely about the war against fascism. Although, not so long ago, he spoke out that Belarus suffered in the war with Germany over the Russians, it was not a war of Belarus ..... So real brothers do not behave.
                I know that you will start screeching and minus me now, but "you can't throw out the words from the song"
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 22 June 2020 10: 38 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                  I know that you will start to scream and minus me now

                  We are talking with you, I express my point of view, you are yours, why "scream and minus"
                2. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 22 June 2020 10: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
                  And when critical moments come, as now, before the elections, he begins to remember the brotherhood, opens the monuments, speaks intensely about the war against fascism.

                  This is imperialism, as the highest stage in the development of capitalism, therefore it does not smell of any "brotherhood" from any side.
                  1. Tatyana Sementsova
                    Tatyana Sementsova 22 June 2020 14: 07 New
                    0
                    I agree, the brotherhood just does not smell .... But it smells like something ...... wink
              2. Tatyana Sementsova
                Tatyana Sementsova 22 June 2020 10: 38 New
                0
                In Ukraine, Putin made everyone jump? Putin put pots on their heads? Putin forbids them to speak and teach children in schools in Russian? Putin banned the holiday of victory on May 9? Bandera to the rank of hero, too, Putin raised? Do not tell people ..... Although, here, as I look, this is the norm.
    3. parusnik
      parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 19 New
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      ROSS 42 (Yuri Vasilievich) Of course, you can go and vote against it, but: The rules for adopting amendments to Chapters 3–8 are determined by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, as well as the federal law of March 4, 1998 “On the Procedure for Adopting and Entering into Force of Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation”. The amendments require the approval of at least three-fourths of the total number of members of the Federation Council and at least two-thirds of the total number of State Duma deputies. For the amendments to enter into force, they must be approved by the parliaments of at least two-thirds of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation. The regional legislative body is obliged to consider the law on amendments to the Constitution no later than one year from the date of its adoption. If the law does not receive the approval of two-thirds of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, then proposals for this amendment are allowed no earlier than a year later. The amendment law approved by the regional parliaments during seven days is sent to the President of the Russian Federation for signing and official publication. Within one month from the day the amendment law comes into force, the Constitution of the Russian Federation is officially published with amendments, as well as with the date of entry into force of the amendments. Neither the Constitution nor the Federal Law accepts amendments in the course of a national plebiscite ... Go vote against, go vote for, do not make any difference. This plebiscite is a plebiscite about trusting the government no more ... And the fact that you vote against it will not affect the adoption of amendments.
  • Dmitry10SPb
    Dmitry10SPb 19 June 2020 13: 48 New
    15
    Uncle worked. Although, yes, an imitation of enthusiasm is present. Let’s, like, count readers as fools. I’ll make fun, like, over the shirnarmasses.
    1. depressant
      depressant 19 June 2020 14: 19 New
      +6
      Shirnarmassa ... Dmitry, thanks! Laughing for a long time))))
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 07 New
        12
        Yesterday, the author, opponents of his position, called mice, today are American agents .. laughing By the way, Lyudmila, do you have a Slavic closet for sale? laughing
        1. depressant
          depressant 19 June 2020 17: 27 New
          +9
          Colleague, and then! wassat even a personal office in the State Department, with an inscription on the door in Slavic script "Lyudmila Yakovlevna Depressant", an agent known in the shirnarmasses tongue
          But I cannot blame the Author for anything. He gives us a topic for thought, believing that she is a persuasive agitation. And we, slow-witted, we parse it into letters.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 36 New
            +4
            And we, slow-witted, we parse it into letters.
            ... Yes, even what, according to the author ... laughing
            1. depressant
              depressant 19 June 2020 17: 44 New
              +9
              Apparently, exclusively on the State Department, with a kind of unpleasant Anglo-Saxon pronunciation. But the rules by which any person with a confirmed Russian origin without any additional documents unconditionally has the right to immediately obtain Russian citizenship, I did not find in the Constitution. Although the author of the article casually positions himself as a defender of the Russians.
  • Oleg_ru
    Oleg_ru 19 June 2020 13: 49 New
    17
    Regarding the proposed revision of Article 95 in part 2, paragraph b., C., And part 5
    "2. The Federation Council consists of senators of the Russian Federation.
    The Federation Council includes:
    "b) the President of the Russian Federation, who terminated the exercise of his powers due to the expiration of his term of office or early in the event of his resignation, - for life. The President of the Russian Federation, who terminated the exercise of his powers due to the expiration of his term of office or early in in the event of his resignation, has the right to refuse the powers of a senator of the Russian Federation;
    c) no more than 30 representatives of the Russian Federation appointed by the President of the Russian Federation, of which no more than seven may be appointed for life.
    5. Representatives of the Russian Federation in the Federation Council, exercising the powers of senators of the Russian Federation for life, may be appointed citizens who have outstanding services to the country in the field of state and public activities. ".

    If the president’s appointment of 30 representatives to the Federation Council, it could be explained by the desire to strengthen presidential influence in the Federation Council, then the provision of lifelong senatorship to 7 of them, and to ex-presidents (former presidents), this is already called the provision of opportunities for the appropriation of power.
    Which undermines the foundations of democracies, which provide for at least the periodic re-election of representatives of elected bodies of power by universal suffrage. The introduction of lifelong ownership of power, this is the basis of the monarchical system.

    The Russian Federation, in accordance with Article 1 of the Constitution, is a democratic state, and neither monarchist.

    What is more interesting, with each new President, after 6 years, the number of senators with a lifetime membership will further increase by 7 representatives, plus the ex-president. Therefore, the proposed amendments did not specifically indicate the total or maximum number of senators in the Federation Council, in contrast to the State Duma of 450 deputies.

    Speaking of citizens who can receive a lifelong senatorial service for outstanding services to the country. Then here is the appointment of former senators "toxic" ministers will clearly not coincide with the opinion of the people.
    As an example, it’s enough to recall Putin’s assignment of the title of Hero of Russia - Kiriyenko (Former Prime Minister of the Russian Federation in which the country defaulted in 1998, devaluation, bankruptcy of the largest banks, loss of savings, price increases, severe economic consequences). But what about Chubais, who organized the privatization of state enterprises in the 90s, the current oligarchs and the ruling elite owe him a lot.

    As a result, the Federation Council will act to a greater extent in defense of business oligarchs and the ruling elite, to the detriment of the interests of the people.

    The provision of lifelong senatorship to former presidents should be limited to the age limit of 80 years, so that then you do not have to conduct a medical commission to diagnose signs of senile dementia in lifelong senators (ex-presidents).
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 June 2020 16: 51 New
      +8
      Why do you write such "pro-American" things? laughing hi
  • Oleg_ru
    Oleg_ru 19 June 2020 13: 58 New
    13
    Regarding the proposed amendment to strengthen the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation in article 67
    "The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (except for delimitation, demarcation, redemarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed."

    This amendment has the following disadvantages.
    First of all. The ruling government left the opportunity to resolve territorial issues with neighboring states without having to take into account the opinion of citizens, a referendum on this issue is optional, and it can easily be prevented (on the example of how this was done on raising the retirement age).
    Second. The concept of alienation of a territory implies the simultaneous accession of a given territory to another (alien) state.
    And if the population of the territory of any subject of the Russian Federation wants to become an independent state or independent autonomy with its own Constitution (in recent years, such attempts have occurred in foreign countries). That amendment will not be able to prevent this. Since this does not fall within the scope of actions aimed at alienating the territory to a foreign country. Here is such a legal conflict due to its interpretation (her relative understanding).
    And if such an amendment existed in the Constitution of the former USSR, it would not save him from collapse. As it will not help Russia in the future, in the event of such negative assumptions.

    Strengthening the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation, more correctly done differently. Why add part 67, approximately as follows, to article 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation

    "4. Questions of the territorial structure of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation, connected with the withdrawal or separation of a part of the territory from the Russian Federation, should be resolved at an all-Russian referendum, in those cases:
    a) when the subject of the Russian Federation or the allotted territory from the Russian Federation was previously recaptured
    (for example, with the invaders and for other reasons) in the course of the known (liberation, civil, local, etc.) wars in which, to one degree or another, the population of the Russian Federation or earlier the population of state formations, the successor of which is Russia (primarily the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Russian Empire);
    b) when part of the territory was transferred to the subject of the Russian Federation or earlier to this subject in the union of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, due to being a part of the Russian Federation or due to being in the union of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. "

    If such a clause had been present in the Constitution of the USSR at one time, some former republics of the USSR would not have wanted to secede from the Russian Federation, so as not to return back a significant part of the previously acquired territory during the existence of the USSR.
    On the necessary amendments to protect the interests of the people in the article https: //leg-begov.rf/konstituciya.html
  • Revival
    Revival 19 June 2020 14: 03 New
    16
    As I understand it, the author did not regret even, for example, single mothers with children!
    After all, they can’t even be called a family now, as the amendment says that the family is precisely the union of a man and a woman.
    Although, you can adopt a constitutional law in which to prescribe the mandatory distribution of men by women and mandatory reporting!
    So the author?
    1. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 14: 33 New
      -5
      After all, they can’t even be called a family now, as the amendment says that the family is precisely the union of a man and a woman.
      Well done, you were pleasantly surprised good
      Not "family" - the union of a man and a woman, but MARRIAGE.
    2. forester1971
      forester1971 19 June 2020 15: 11 New
      +6
      Please read the wording of this amendment. If you are to criticize, then you need to know what exactly. Marriage is a union of a man and a woman, not a family. A family can be mothers - single and grandmothers with grandchildren, etc.
      1. flicker
        flicker 19 June 2020 16: 25 New
        -5
        Please read the wording of this amendment.
        This character, will not read anything, for him the main thing is to carry the blizzard yes
  • Sofa
    Sofa 19 June 2020 14: 08 New
    +6
    It is also necessary to make amendments that officials should not have accounts and real estate abroad, let everything be in Russia
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 19 June 2020 16: 18 New
      -2
      So the prohibition of foreign accounts in the amendments there.
      1. Sofa
        Sofa 19 June 2020 16: 21 New
        +6
        And real estate ???
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 19 June 2020 16: 26 New
          -2
          While passing by, they unscrewed what they say, if they inherited, then why should they refuse it.
          1. flicker
            flicker 20 June 2020 11: 53 New
            0
            Bye by
            Yes, not quite past. They are forbidden to have a residence permit in the territory of a foreign state.
            And the presence of real estate involves a residence permit.
            So, it seems, they will be obliged to sell.
            1. Ros 56
              Ros 56 20 June 2020 17: 04 New
              0
              Well, why write nonsense?
              1. flicker
                flicker 20 June 2020 21: 27 New
                -4
                Residence permit, albeit indirectly, but often associated with real estate. So in some countries you need a residence permit to buy real estate.
                In other countries, the purchase of real estate (referred to as investments, often in the several hundred thousand dollars) allows you to obtain a residence permit (which will be prohibited by the amendments).
                Of course, you can buy real estate and at the same time refuse a residence permit.
                But along with this refusal, many of the rights that a residence permit gives are lost: the length of stay in this country is limited by visas, as well as the frequency of visits, the ability to visit other countries without hindrance, medical care, driver’s license, etc. etc.
                ---
                Those. property ownership becomes somewhat decarative, not complete without a residence permit, which will reduce the attractiveness of officials to foreign real estate.
    2. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 16: 48 New
      -2
      It is also necessary to make amendments that officials should not have accounts and real estate abroad.

      They have long been introduced:
      Article 71, paragraph t
      Article 77, paragraph 3
      Article 78, paragraph 5
      Article 95, paragraph 4
      Article 97, paragraph 1
      Article 103 para.
      Article 119, paragraph 1
      Article 129, paragraph 2
      All these amendments prohibit relevant officials from having citizenship of a foreign state, a residence permit (i.e. housing, property), opening accounts and storing cash and valuables in foreign banks.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 19 June 2020 14: 11 New
    +8
    In 1993, people were shot from tanks. Until now, there is no exact data how many died. It would be more honest to adopt a new constitution, and not arrange this amended circus. But whoever likes the circus can go.
    1. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 14: 28 New
      -9
      It would be more honest to adopt a new constitution, and not arrange this amended circus.
      Well, yes, take, for example, the current Constitution, rearrange a few words (instead of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, call the Constitution of the Federation of Russia). Call this Constitution "new" and adopt it. Everything is business. Everyone is happy. bully
  • flicker
    flicker 19 June 2020 14: 16 New
    -23 qualifying.
    Thanks to the author for the objective article.
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  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 19 June 2020 14: 18 New
    -3
    these points are located exactly in places where many apolitical people

    laughing
    The second part of the Marlezon Ballet ...
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 37 New
      +2
      A colleague in the forum, you are desperately minus for such a phrase ... laughing
  • Egoza
    Egoza 19 June 2020 14: 19 New
    13
    You can write corrections. And you can accept the amendments - vote for them. WHEN AND WHO WILL THEY BE PERFORMED ????
  • prior
    prior 19 June 2020 14: 23 New
    21
    To call for "living like a human being" is essentially a call for the overthrow of the existing system.
    The author, you yourself admitted that the existing system is anti-human.
    Why vote for a constitution approving such a system?
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  • Sether
    Sether 19 June 2020 14: 28 New
    16
    The current constitution fixes retirement at 55 and 60 and this did not stop the guarantor from violating the constitution and everyone is silent about this and then hiding in the bunker forbade us all to work and earn money and the constitution has the right to work. And what did he build during his 20 year rule? The country of swindlers and scammers. They can throw a salary on pensions for interest-holders on compulsory motor third-party liability insurance for housing and communal services for various purchases where it is necessary to conduct an investigation on the security of a thing or not and they will throw you through the court. And what is he now fussing about? It’s just that the term of his power is coming up and it is necessary that he be questioned about the work done, as a result of which we are in Africa in terms of living standards. And who else believes in fair elections? In the country of kidalovo they will throw us as always
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 19 June 2020 14: 29 New
    11
    The country needs to be changed. And to change, not by a willful decision, all at once, but gradually. Slowly. Without breaking anyone’s lives. It’s easy to remove the piles of garbage that we have piled on so much in all spheres of life over the past thirty years that we cannot even see the grass under them. We used to live like that. We must wean. Learning to live humanly.


    For the last 30 years the author has not lived like a human being? What for? Author - Mowgli? About "piled on the grass" - epic. So they want to blame for another 30 years. Although the grass is no longer visible.
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  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 19 June 2020 14: 34 New
    16
    Again the noodles on the ears.
    And now, officials cannot have loot abroad. So what? Friends and relatives for what?
    Persons do not fit in a telly, The whole country helps out a senator-billionaire who cheated with taxes in France ...

    "Remove ... must .... must ..." Everyone who owes, the Kremlin will forgive !!!
    and clean up! It is not Germany's Katsler Schrader to remove from Rosneft directors. Not Abramovich, Usmanov, Potanin and other "residents".

    It’s better once again to stir something up with the PF ... and the articles come out - stir up ....
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 19 June 2020 16: 14 New
      +2
      But you will not die of hunger, since there are noodles.
  • trophy
    trophy 19 June 2020 14: 40 New
    11
    The article is another set of slogans and laments. Deuce to you, return the fee. The Zaputin propagandist has become a little weak these days. Arguments from the series: "vote or lose", "we are for all good against all the Muiini" or "I will give you birth" are less and less in demand by society.
  • Doctor
    Doctor 19 June 2020 14: 42 New
    14
    View of the Communist Party working group:

    The amendments to articles 102, 103, 129 just solve the problem of concentration of power in one hand. A real balance of power is being created when the Council of the Federation, rather an authority authority than a real power structure, and the State Duma get rather serious powers.

    The nature of the amendments from the very beginning shows the desire of the authorities to further redraw the system of power under the needs of the ruling class. Moreover, the submission of amendments to the Constitution from the moment they are voiced in the president’s message, as well as during all further informational support, is distorted.

    In particular, the Federation Council gains the right to discuss power ministers and make proposals to the president on appointing specific people to these posts. Simply put, the Federation Council is empowered to form a power block of the government! The president shares his powers with the Federation Council.

    However, cabinet members are nominated, appointed and removed only by the president.

    Also, the Federation Council will participate in the appointment of prosecutors in the region. True, the prerogative to appoint prosecutors remains the same, but now without the consent of the senators this can not be done.

    Moreover, the appointment and removal of prosecutors V.V. Putin takes himself from the Federation Council.

    The State Duma has not been ignored. Now all deputy prime ministers and line ministers will be discussed at the State Duma meetings. Thus, the Duma deputies will bear the same responsibility for the work of the government as the president.

    Under the current Constitution of the Russian Federation, the Chairman of the Accounts Chamber was approved by the State Duma. According to the amendments, now the Federation Council will do this.
    The right to overcome the presidential veto of the State Duma and the Federation Council is actually also taken away.

    Maybe someone likes when a court in some The Hague can dictate terms to Russia? When does our Russian law mean nothing in front of some mythical international?

    The bravura statements of the authorities about the need for priority of Russian legislation over the operation of international treaties are divided into the action of Part 4 of Art. 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, where the opposite is expressly written.

    Full version:
    https://msk.kprf.ru/2020/03/04/134565/
  • codetalker
    codetalker 19 June 2020 14: 59 New
    -5
    I must say, this, of course, is an amazing situation. There are so many discussions (including on this resource) about the amendment, but there is no thoughtful analysis in the media. Thanks to the author for the work. Although it should be noted that the analysis came out to some extent superficial, especially in the first paragraph.
  • Newven
    Newven 19 June 2020 15: 02 New
    -14 qualifying.
    Articles by Stavr and Skomorokh are like litmus paper for determining the acidity of the "fifth column" and Russia's enemies on VO! On Stavr's articles, they flock like to a sabbath, and at the opponent's, they are like at a friendly party, where they lick each other with pleasure.
    Only these "guardians of Russia" and the flying "one-day flights of rank and file" from the Center for Information and Psychological Operations (CSO) of the Ukrainian army, there are not so many here. So to speak, a well-formed team for conducting an information war against Russia, which has conveniently landed on a Russian resource.
    And do not be confused by the "rating general's shoulder straps." It's not just a question of licking each other. I lived here to the "rating army general" and repeatedly flew to the eternal ban - for the truth. For the truth, for which, some moderators, offered to return "everything", meaning the same "running rating", just to keep silent. Those who have been to VO for a long time will remember how many really good participants were from Azerbaijan, Armenia, Kazakhstan and other post-Soviet republics. Where are they? Washed and corroded?

    And now, the bulk of the VO participants, in these articles, does not express their opinion. Be afraid to pick cons. Who or what are you afraid of? These "rating shoulder straps" feed you. Wise silence is good. But, because in Russia there is so much "dirt" that the majority are used to keeping silent, hoping that someone will "say", and I will sit out in the "trench" for now!
    Donbass is waiting for a return to their homeland!
    1. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 16: 18 New
      -15 qualifying.
      On Stavr's articles, they flock like on a coven, and with an opponent, they are like at a friendly party
      This is yes.
      This "friendly party" gives them the impression that the majority are with them.
      Most are now building roads, bridges, hospitals, schools, smelting steel, creating spaceships, building planes, building submarines, tanks, air defense equipment, floating nuclear plants, sowing wheat, planting potatoes, etc. etc.
      ---
      And the so-called "majority" in VO (and this majority does not exceed 100 people), after the vote, will whine and moan in chorus that they did not think correctly.
      ---
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 19 June 2020 17: 14 New
        16
        Quote: flicker
        Most are now building roads
        Uzbeks build roads and they usually fall apart after six months.
        Quote: flicker
        bridges
        On one bridge built, we have 3-4 fallen bridges that have not been repaired since Soviet times. By the way, have you heard about the Tereshkova bridge? He did not stand long. lol
        Quote: flicker
        hospitals, schools
        At an accelerated rate, they are being reduced in quantity. Soon we’ll go down to the level of Tsarist Russia.
        Quote: flicker
        creates spaceships
        The space program is a legacy of the USSR. And in Russia, more and more corruption, theft at construction sites and Rogozin trampolines are remembered.
        Quote: flicker
        collect airplanes
        Therefore, all airlines fly on Boeing, Airbus and Bombardier.
        well, etc. by the list...
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        2. flicker
          flicker 19 June 2020 20: 48 New
          -5
          I can’t upload photos or video
          See article
          "More giant bridges have been built in Russia in 20 Putin years than in the entire previous period."
          ---
          22 of the 32 longest bridges in Russia were built under Vladimir Putin.
          The length of the new bridges is 108 km, and the total length of all bridges is 129 km. That is, 83% of the total length of the giant bridges were erected during the years of Putin’s rule. And the kings and general secretaries for the centuries before this was built only 17%.

          1. Crimean bridge - the length of 19 km, opened in 2018.
          2. Russian bridge in Vladivostok - the length of 1886 meters, opened in 2012
          3. Krasavinsky bridge over the Kama River in Perm - 1737 meters, opened in 2005
          4. Kinesham bridge across the Volga - 1646 meters, opened in 2003
          5. Nikolaevsky bridge in Krasnoyarsk - 1600 meters, opened in 2015
          6. The bridge across the Kama, Arkharovka and Kurlyanka - the length over Kama 1608 meters, the total length 13967 meters, opened in 2002
          7. Boguchansky bridge in the Krasnoyarsk Territory - the length of 1611 meters, opened in 2011
          8. The bridge across the Kola Bay in Murmansk - the length of 1611 meters, opened in 2009
          9. Academic bridge over the Angara in Irkutsk - 1615 meters long, opened in 2013
          10. The bridge over the Tura River in Turinsk - a length of 1970 meters, opened in 2008
          11. Bugrinsky bridge across the Ob in Novosibirsk - the length of 2097,5 meters, opened in 2014
          12. Temernitsky bridge in Rostov - length 2255 meters, opened in 2010
          13. Ugra bridge across the Ob - the length of 2110 meters, opened in 2000
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          2. flicker
            flicker 19 June 2020 20: 53 New
            -4
            Extension
            14. Saratov bridge across the Volga - 2351 meters long, opened in 2009
            15. Volgograd bridge - the length of 2514 meters, opened in 2009
            16. Bolshoi Obukhov bridge in St. Petersburg - length 2884 meters, opened in 2007
            17. Railway bridge over Yuribey - 3893 meters long, opened in 2009
            18. The bridge in Vladivostok through the Amur Bay - the length of 4362 meters, opened in 2012
            19. The Presidential bridge across the Volga in Ulyanovsk - the length of 5825 meters, opened in 2009
            20. The North Bridge on the expressway in St. Petersburg - the length of 8800 meters, fully opened in 2016
        3. flicker
          flicker 19 June 2020 20: 56 New
          -2
          On one bridge built, we have 3-4 fallen bridges,
          Now list 60-80 fallen bridges.
          1. Nehist
            Nehist 19 June 2020 21: 45 New
            +3
            I can tell you 4 bridges of 20 meters in length that are being repaired for the second year and will not be repaired in my area ... The price of one is under 90 million. And there are thousands of such bridges at such a price and even higher throughout our country, I’m wondering when will they be built around the world in a month? Could you tell? Or are constitutional amendments needed for this too?
            1. depressant
              depressant 19 June 2020 22: 01 New
              +4
              By the way, on June 1, a railway bridge fell in the Murmansk region, the city was cut off from the railway network. In emergency mode, it was repaired by today. I am not an expert, but was it really not visible that the incense bridge was breathing? No lineman, engineers?
            2. flicker
              flicker 19 June 2020 22: 37 New
              -4
              I can tell you 4 bridges of 20 meters in length which are being repaired the second year and not how
              You tell about 4 and a half meter unfinished rain gangways.
              ---
              20 meter bridge is not an object for federal construction.
              These issues are resolved at the level of the head of the village council.
              ---
              And so I can also make claims to the federal government that in my staircase the bulb often does not light and someone throws cigarette butts.
              1. Nehist
                Nehist 19 June 2020 22: 48 New
                +1
                Are you sure? So there are two bridges on the federal highway and the feds are just doing them hi
                1. flicker
                  flicker 20 June 2020 12: 24 New
                  0
                  two bridges on the federal highway and the feds are just doing them
                  If the bridge is on the federal highway, then its construction will be financed from the federal budget. But to build it (if it is not unique) will be the construction organization of your (relatively speaking) settlement council.
                  Well, all claims to the quality of this bridge and to the timing of its construction will need to be presented to the construction organization and those who hired it (the head of the village council).
    2. Oleg Skvortsov
      Oleg Skvortsov 19 June 2020 16: 19 New
      +7
      Cat Vasily - write nonsense, which brain have you been washed with? information troops? belay To Ukraine do not care. Well. don’t expect that the current Russian government will return the Donbass to its homeland, so you can lose assets on Palm Beach. People here are adults, and they have brains, they say what they think, they would say more, but censorship will not allow it.
  • Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 19 June 2020 15: 06 New
    +4
    . The country needs to be changed. And to change, not by a willful decision, all at once, but gradually.

    What have you been doing for the last twenty years?
    1. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 15: 52 New
      -7
      What have you been doing for the last twenty years?
      Created the conditions.
    2. depressant
      depressant 19 June 2020 22: 05 New
      +3
      That's what they did - they changed the country. His to someone else's. Everyone now has a spare.
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 19 June 2020 15: 12 New
    +8
    Today I saw an amended sheet that practically copies in the text part of the newsletter. A volunteer said that next week every voter will have such a list. So, there will be time to go deeper into all the proposals.

    Here is the word PRAKTICHKSKI COPIES from the lips of agitators amuses me !!!! The author himself is not sure that everything that is given to us for discussion will be word for word and without additions will be put to the vote ... We did not grieve with our government even without amendments ... So dear author, do not worry that amendments will not be accepted, but they will accept it and forget ... If it is necessary for "Motherland", of course, for the sake of our happy future, then we will invite foreigners to power by giving them in five minutes and the accounts will be in foreign banks is not a hindrance, because some "Svoykarmanbank" has In its asset are shares of a foreign bank, which means that this bank is part of the Russian one and the history can be preserved, as it is written in textbooks under the drunken control of the EBN associates, while you can always confirm that the mausoleum was hung with a camouflage net on November 7, 1941 ... therefore, no one closes it, but reconstructs the true setting ...
    For me personally, neither the old nor the new text of the Constitution gives or changes anything - I'm not a president, a deputy or a "successful manager" !!!!
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 19 June 2020 15: 13 New
    -2
    Knock on the door. Brezhnev takes out glasses, a piece of paper from his pocket and reads:
    - Who's there?

    Brezhnev reads out a greeting to the athletes at the 1980 Olympic Games in Moscow:
    - ABOUT! ABOUT! ABOUT! ABOUT! ABOUT!
    The referent whispers to him:
    - This is not an "o", but the Olympic rings! The text is below!

    Do you know what it is?
    These are jokes that Soviet people wrote about the current government

    And why not?
    Because L.I. Brezhnev ruled from 1964 to 1982, i.e. whole[i] [/ i] 19 years old.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 19 June 2020 16: 12 New
      -1
      Vanya, the head .... you know whose.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 19 June 2020 19: 54 New
      +3
      From October 14, 1964 to November 10, 1982. 18 years.
    3. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 22: 49 New
      -2
      Chelu was 41 years old, did not preside for a single day, but so masterfully owned the piano that the public elected him president.
      And now he enjoys his game.
      Not a second is a joke.
  • Alex2
    Alex2 19 June 2020 15: 16 New
    +6
    Frank fooled. The ban on foreign citizenship and foreign ownership applies only to 87 people. And this despite the fact that the text of the amendment, which relates to this case, allows for misunderstanding. Again, there are no legal verification methods, and a Russian citizen has foreign citizenship and property.
    1. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 22: 55 New
      -3
      The ban on foreign citizenship and foreign property applies only to 87 people
      Are you so kidding?
      This ban applies to officials (ministers, judges, prosecutors, governors, mayors, etc.) from federal to municipal.
      And do you think there are only 87 of them?
      1. bk0010
        bk0010 20 June 2020 00: 08 New
        +3
        There is no prohibition there: here is all 3 part 77 of article "3. The highest official of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation (the head of the highest executive body of state power of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation) can be a citizen of the Russian Federation who has reached 30 years of age, permanently residing in the Russian Federation, who does not have foreign citizenship. state or a residence permit or other document confirming the right to permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation on the territory of a foreign state. Federal law may establish additional requirements for a senior official of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation (the head of the highest executive body of state power of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation). "
        About property and accounts in general, not a word, about left citizenship "maybe ... not having." Not "it is forbidden for people with other citizenship to hold positions ...", but "maybe ... not having." And maybe he does.
        1. flicker
          flicker 20 June 2020 12: 43 New
          -2
          Not a word about property and accounts

          Or maybe you just don’t know how to read laughing
          Article 77, paragraph 3.
          The highest official of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation (the head of the highest executive body of state power of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation) may be a citizen of the Russian Federation who has reached the age of 30, has resided permanently in the Russian Federation, has no citizenship of a foreign state or a residence permit or other document confirming the right to permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation on the territory of a foreign state. To the highest official of the subject of the Russian Federation (head of the highest executive body of state power of the subject of the Russian Federation) in the manner prescribed by federal law, it is forbidden to open and have accounts (deposits), to store cash and valuables in foreign banks located outside the territory of the Russian Federation.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 20 June 2020 12: 45 New
            -1
            A reference, please. Where I read the amendments your end of the article was not.
            1. flicker
              flicker 21 June 2020 09: 36 New
              -2
              Ssylochku, please.

              https://xn--2020-94damyi5albn6b6i.xn--p1ai/
              Then click "more about amendments"
              Article 71 par., Article 77 paragraph 3, article 78, 95, 97, 103, 119, 129.
              1. bk0010
                bk0010 21 June 2020 11: 06 New
                +1
                Quote: flicker
                https://xn--2020-94damyi5albn6b6i.xn--p1ai/
                Thank. Here's an ambush: on different sites, the amendments are different ...
                1. flicker
                  flicker 21 June 2020 11: 51 New
                  -1
                  on different sites, the amendments are different ...
                  yes, also noticed.
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 19 June 2020 15: 43 New
    -21 qualifying.
    Great article by Alexander! I COMPLETELY agree with him both in the text and in the conclusion! And he is right: we live in an interesting time. Everything seems to be as usual, but there is (or is about to happen) some event that, like a searchlight, illuminates people. Shows who is Human and who is human or human. And, as Volodya sang: "Who is my friend, who is my enemy, and who is just like that." So it is with these amendments. Opponents of their adoption put forward many demagogic "reasons". Basic:

    - it is necessary to change the entire Constitution, and not to amend;

    - haste (haste) is completely unnecessary, it is necessary to properly discuss everything before adoption;

    - the authorities and Putin are extremely weak and are very afraid of the "people" (the opposition always calls itself the whole people), they are afraid that the amendment about zeroing will not work, therefore they are trying to push it in a package (the most "terrible" amendment, because of which it is impossible go and vote FOR almost 400 urgently needed ones!).

    Why are amendments being made, and not the whole Constitution? The fact is that replacing the Constitution is a lengthy process. And overdue amendments to the Constitution are easier and faster to produce by voting.

    Why rush, rush? But there is no rush: the proposals have long been collected, known, worked out by specialists, they have been discussed with wide public awareness, the amendments have long been placed in the media to familiarize all WISHING.

    Are the authorities weak, Putin, are they afraid of a failure to pass the zero adjustment amendment? Quite the opposite! Knowing full well the situation and the fact that the opposition - the opponents of the adoption of the amendments - is a minority, the government QUIETLY included the amendment on zeroing in the list, believing that the REASONABLE majority of the people will support the amendments and V.V. Putin, who is so hated by opponents and enemies.

    Of course, it would be better to calmly, without rushing to discuss all the amendments (new Constitution), vote them separately ... But time, time, time! ...

    Who are these opponents of the adoption of the amendments? Who is trying hard to slow down and disrupt their adoption? These are left and right Russian radicals, pro-Western liberals, deceived by them illiterate and indifferent Russians, as well as hidden and overt enemies of Russia (domestic and foreign), hiding behind demagogy about the welfare of Russia and Russians.

    I suppose, roughly what I said, Vladimir Vladimirovich will say before the vote.
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 19 June 2020 15: 51 New
      -15 qualifying.
      Opponents of the amendments also say that they should not be adopted because they "will not be implemented." I don't even want to comment on such nonsense!
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 19 June 2020 16: 24 New
        -15 qualifying.
        And I wonder: if the amendments are adopted (which I have almost no doubt about) WHAT will all these "colonels", "generals" and "marshals" broadcast about this? Or will they silently stick their tongues in ...... pu.?
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 19 June 2020 16: 56 New
          -13 qualifying.
          INTERESTING OBSERVATION: Once on the "Russian patriotic" site "Politicus", which is registered in the Netherlands, and its administrators are from Germany, about the same as on VO the NOD members were now bandaging under the patronage of administrators: they silently ran about certain topics, threw dozens of likes to supporters , and dozens of dislikes to opponents.
          INTERESTING QUESTION: Have the owner and Glavred recently changed to VO?
          1. flicker
            flicker 21 June 2020 11: 58 New
            0
            INTERESTING QUESTION: Have the owner and Glavred recently changed to VO?
            It seems to me that the scheme is different there: at the beginning, the site is promoted, then the site is "offered" to switch to the "correct" content material.
        2. TAMBU
          TAMBU 19 June 2020 17: 57 New
          +6
          also a provocateur ...
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 19 June 2020 20: 33 New
            -7
            What, really pierces the eyes? Underground general? laughing
            1. TAMBU
              TAMBU 19 June 2020 23: 48 New
              +1
              what else is true !? Okay, darling, I'm operating in terms of truth ...
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 20 June 2020 09: 47 New
                +1
                Well yes! If truth is understood as "Everything that I say is the ultimate truth!", Then yes, you are operating with categories of "truth". Are you not God? laughing
                1. TAMBU
                  TAMBU 20 June 2020 12: 06 New
                  0

                  Hmm ... It's not yours to draw conclusions ... because. if you do not understand the nonsense that you expressed by the truth, but take the concept, then there should be nothing to tell you (for this part of the commentary), for the phrase "... Or will they silently thrust their tongues into ....?" - this is what is called and in fact is a provocation ...
                  1. Vladimir Mashkov
                    Vladimir Mashkov 20 June 2020 13: 03 New
                    -1
                    I do not communicate with the impudent boorish demagogues, about whom it is written in the article and who use insults as arguments for their "rightness" and "truthfulness"! And the vote on July 1 will judge us. It will put an end to who the people are and who is right! How far away you are from the people ...
                    1. TAMBU
                      TAMBU 20 June 2020 15: 32 New
                      -1
                      And the July 1 vote will judge us.

                      Why would this be? Yes, and I basically have nothing to share with you to judge us ...
                      EVERYONE already knows how the poll will end on July 1 ... it's like saying: "but tomorrow will judge us, if it comes, then I'm right ..."
                      How far are you from the people ...

                      Again, a judgment based only on its own conclusions, and not justified by anything ...
        3. flicker
          flicker 20 June 2020 12: 51 New
          -2
          if the amendments are adopted (which I have almost no doubt about) WHAT will all these "colonels", "generals" and "marshals" broadcast about this?

          It is clear that what was considered wrong.
          There are about 100 of them here on the VO website, they drive themselves into trance with their comments (which they are the whole people), and then they are surprised at the results of the vote.
      2. flicker
        flicker 21 June 2020 10: 43 New
        0
        Opponents of the amendments also say that they should not be accepted because they "will not be implemented."
        Yeah, then why are everyone so breaking their spears because of these amendments?
    2. Whowhy
      Whowhy 19 June 2020 19: 47 New
      +5
      Baby talk... request
    3. flicker
      flicker 19 June 2020 23: 33 New
      -3
      I agree with you.
      I will add only
      Of course, it would be better to calmly, without rushing to discuss all the amendments (the new Constitution), vote them individually ...
      Many amendments are interrelated.
      For example, the redistribution of powers between branches of government must be balanced - and for this it is necessary to accept all amendments.
      So that it would not happen that the functions were removed from the president (the amendment was adopted), and the deputies were not given this function (the amendment was not accepted).
      In addition, the amendments reinforcing the influence of the Federation Council (Article 102) and State Duma deputies (Article 103) and others must certainly be associated with amendments prohibiting the possession of foreign citizenship, residence permit in another country, deposits in foreign banks.
      ---
      It’s the same as if the family decides to buy the car in parts: the husband will buy a body from a Mercedes, the wife will drive a truck, the son will drive to Thailand, grandfather will buy a steering wheel from an airplane, etc.
      ---
      Amendments individually are a methodological delay in voting and eventually disrupt it.
  • flicker
    flicker 19 June 2020 15: 45 New
    -13 qualifying.
    Once again: thanks to the author for the objective article.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 19 June 2020 20: 17 New
      12
      Quote: flicker
      Once again: thanks to the author for the objective article.

      What is objectivity? That you can't decide the fate of the LPR without amendments? Why was Minsk invented? Would accept the amendments and that's it!
      Without amendments you can’t drive Rodnina, Tretyak out of the State Duma, from AP Peskov? Have property and assets behind the cordon. July 2, they all resign? Believe it yourself?
      1. flicker
        flicker 20 June 2020 13: 05 New
        -2
        What without amendments can't decide the fate of the LDNR? Why was Minsk invented? Would take amendment and all!
        Without amendments you can’t drive out of the State Duma ...

        ---
        Well, doesn’t it surprise you why there is so much noise due to amendments (if they are so useless)?
        ---
        The amendments deprive many officials of "nishtyaks", and they charge the social network with protest content.
        ---
        And you (and others like you) help these officials with your protest against the amendments.
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        It comes to the ridiculous: you criticize the authorities for "nishtyaks" from officials, and at the same time oppose the amendments that deprive these officials of these "nishtyaks".
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        belay
  • KSVK
    KSVK 19 June 2020 15: 50 New
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    Putin will no longer be president.

    The author, did he personally report this to you? Why then "zeroing"?
    There will be no answer, that’s how I am, asking rhetorical questions. wassat
    Here's another one: Author, did you personally read the amendments? According to your article, I see that no.
    In general, ladies and gentlemen, comrades, citizens, how low you need to evaluate the mental abilities of your own population in order to seriously carry the nonsense that is now pouring from the lips of speaking heads of different calibers. am
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 43 New
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      Yes, he did not read the Constitution and the Federal Law on the procedure for adopting amendments ....
    2. Whowhy
      Whowhy 19 June 2020 19: 44 New
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      "Zeroing" is the same cover (like God, "social package", "protection of the family and other animals", etc.) of those amendments that lead to increased power any the subsequent president and the formation of a pro-fascist state. For example, what kind of mythical "state council" is this, about which no one knows anything, and why we should vote for its "legalization". And then they will adopt a law, approved by the Constitutional Court, that this is the absolute power of, say, three people (why not a council?). And that's all - they sailed ...
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 19 June 2020 20: 13 New
        +8
        Quote: whowhy
        "Zeroing" is the same cover (like God, "social package", "protection of the family and other animals", etc.) of those amendments that lead to the strengthening of the power of any subsequent president

        They do not understand this, they believe in the eternal Putin, but meanwhile he is sick and the disease is progressing. As a result of intrigue, it is generally unknown who may come to power. What will the country do with this? And will there be a country after that at all?
        They try not to think about tomorrow, but it is already coming. You can’t get far in the carriage of the past, and they all try to ride in it
      2. flicker
        flicker 21 June 2020 12: 04 New
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        Zeroing "is the same cover (like God," social package "," protection of the family and other animals ", etc.) of those amendments that lead to the strengthening of the power of any subsequent president and to the formation of a pro-fascist state.

        By any chance you will not be one of the "patriots of Israel"? bully
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 19 June 2020 16: 10 New
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    There is almost nothing to add, everything is correct, Alexander.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 19 June 2020 16: 11 New
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    Deputies will not be able to have accounts, property and other material interests abroad. 

    Does he himself believe in this?
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 19 June 2020 16: 14 New
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    Mr. Staver sold himself for a snuff of tobacco, but before he wrote adequate articles
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 49 New
      +8
      You’ll at least be smarter than the author, he has mice, American agents ... etc ... An ordinary man in the street who believes in a good king, bad boyars and a fifth column ... Like Chekhov: More than anything I love handsome men, apple pie and the name Roland
  • parusnik
    parusnik 19 June 2020 16: 15 New
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    It’s easy to remove the piles of garbage that we have piled on so much in all spheres of life over the past thirty years that we cannot even see the grass under them.
    ... Tell me who we are and how many of you ...? laughing Those who voted for EBN, United Russia, Putin, the pro-American Constitution in 1993, those who approved the 5% barrier, those who approved the removal of the candidate from the ballots against everyone, those who approved a decrease in the percentage turnout ... So these are your "drovishki"? laughing
  • bandabas
    bandabas 19 June 2020 16: 45 New
    +7
    Last year's snow was falling. "And I can enroll as a tsar! Yes! And who is here ... Who is here, for example, an extreme tsar? No one ?! So I will be the first! .. As a king, then I will fix myself - first of all, first of all ... What's the first thing? Oh, the piano! And what kind of life is it without a piano? " He went to the tree for the third time, and got it ... But it was already in the spring, and he took the tree back.
  • demo
    demo 19 June 2020 16: 59 New
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    Continuing the topic of amendments, I want to answer one question that is often asked to me. Yes, I will vote on constitutional amendments. Just because the “mess” that exists today and on which we live today does not suit me.

    I will ask the author a simple question.
    Not even a question, but an example.
    There are 100 hectares of good, business forest.
    But they want to cut it down, for the sake of the gain.
    There is a debate: we will start sawing from the middle to the edges, or from the edges to the middle.
    No one even argues that there is no need to cut wood.
    So it is with you.

    Behind the husk of words, the meaning of the fact that nothing is decided by the amendments to the Basic Law is lost.
    Amendments to the Basic Law are made for other, well-hidden purposes.
    What kind?
    Well, at least, check the "maturity" of our society, the self-awareness of our people.
    See the reaction.
    And there you can go further.

    And it would be worth writing about it.
    But ...
    Everyone writes what is trained.

    Today I read an article by a certain Voloshin (former head of the Presidential Administration of Yeltsin).
    Even he stated the following:
    "The authorities should not" water "civil society from a watering can, it grows in a struggle - Voloshin."

    Civil society must grow in the struggle for their rights, people must
    quietly learn to unite to protect their rights and interests, to help
    each other, the former head of the presidential administration emphasized.
    Although he pursues his goals, stating this, but the problem is obvious.
    We are Russians, as herds of individualists who are not able to unite for global and vital goals.
    And the amendment to the Basic Law doesn’t have anything to correct.
    Only worsen and bronze.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 19 June 2020 17: 20 New
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      Quote: demo
      demo (van)

      Great comment! good
      Quote: demo
      Today I read an article by a certain Voloshin (former head of the Presidential Administration of Yeltsin).

      This is a rare shadow bastard, a traitor, an ideologue of Ebno-Putinism, a protégé of the current bunkeromaniac and his current adviser, and part-time a member of the "family" and creature of Berezovsky.
      He is centered.
      1. demo
        demo 19 June 2020 17: 29 New
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        All this time, while he was not in power, he sat in the administration of the Krasnodar Territory.
        And people like him, sitting and waiting in the wings, oh so many.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 19 June 2020 19: 58 New
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          You do not confuse Voloshin with anyone? He had nothing to do with the administration of the Krasnodar Territory. You confuse it with the late Nikolai Egorov, who was also the head of the presidential administration at one time.
          1. demo
            demo 19 June 2020 21: 36 New
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            On February 1, it became known that Alexander Voloshin wrote a letter of resignation in connection with his retirement.
            Alexander Voloshin has led the regional branch of housing and communal services since 2007, the press service of the regional administration reports.

            Vice Governor Anatoly Voronovsky noted that over the years of his work at his post, Alexander Voloshin made a significant contribution to the development of the industry.
            https://kubnews.ru/vlast/2019/02/01/ministr-tek-i-zhkkh-krasnodarskogo-kraya-aleksandr-voloshin-ushel-v-otstavku/
            Former head of the Russian presidential administration Alexander Voloshin has been appointed coordinator of the government’s expert council. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on December 10.

            In addition to Mr. Voloshin, the presidium of the council also included: former heads of the government of the Russian Federation Viktor Zubkov, Sergey Stepashin, Mikhail Fradkov, president of Sberbank German Gref, adviser to the chairman of the board of Gazprombank Karen Karapetyan, president of the Kurchatov Institute, Mikhail Kovalchuk, rector of St. Petersburg State University Nikolai Kropachev, rector of NRU NUU HSE Yaroslav Kuzminov, Rector of RANEPA Vladimir Mau, Rector of Moscow State University Viktor Sadovnichy, Director of the Hermitage Mikhail Piotrovsky, Head of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs Alexander Shokhin, Chairman of VEB.RF, Former Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov.

            You see what "bison" gathered around the cake called "Russia".
            It's hard to confuse here.
            1. depressant
              depressant 19 June 2020 22: 31 New
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              I will add: Viktor Zubkov, who was once Putin’s deputy in Sobchak’s team, is Serdyukov’s ex-father-in-law. Zubkov became the career ladder on which Serdyukov climbed.
            2. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 21 June 2020 14: 07 New
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              Have you seen a photograph of this Voloshin yourself? Krasnodar Minister Alexander Mikhailovich, and associate of Yeltsin Alexander Stalevich. This is a completely different person.
              1. demo
                demo 21 June 2020 16: 44 New
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                It happens. Wrong.
                But this name affected me so much that already ......
                I could not calmly find and see.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 19 June 2020 17: 33 New
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      Regarding unification, people were not content with the authorities, they expressed a boycott. From the beginning, they voted for the candidate against everyone, (but all party factions suffered from such a vote) this right was removed, the people stopped going to elections, expressing their distrust of the authorities at all levels, and the percentage turnout was canceled. The people quietly and peacefully protested. The authorities are slowly provoking the people to go to the barricades. If the people go, they will bleed, and then you will understand what will happen .. It will not go, they will gradually strangle them quietly ... "Such is a pancake, music, such is eternal youth." ... and at the expense of associations ... you will jump 5% of figs or be recognized as a foreign agent ...
      1. demo
        demo 19 June 2020 17: 39 New
        +8
        The order of cause-and-effect relationships has been quite correctly and succinctly determined.
        It is worth adding here the "great house-to-house".
        We tried - it turned out.
        In addition, an additional layer of people has formed that cannot pay the mortgage for an apartment-car.
        The more hungry people are on the verge of eviction and loss of property, the easier it will be to manipulate them.
        Gref said that people should not be allowed to think. They cannot be manipulated then.
        So they make us brainless "trembling creatures."
  • iouris
    iouris 19 June 2020 17: 23 New
    +4
    And if the nation votes against, then the "traditional family" will be banned and the Russian Federation will turn into a colony of the West, some rights will be taken away from animals?
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 19 June 2020 17: 28 New
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    I thought about raising the spirit of patriotism. I remember the street during the parade. There was military equipment waiting for the exit to the square. Adults approached the military, the children literally besieged the tankmen. And it goes without saying that the girls. Last year. The whole event was cordoned off by the police, and passersby were required to present documents. Children who were attracted to military equipment could become patriots if they were bad uncles. I perfectly understand that such police measures are directed against terrorist attacks and hooliganism. And yet this should be done not so noticeably. I respect the Constitution. But I live my life. If you re-think Karl Marx, everything is built on the rule of being over consciousness. Therefore, I think most will vote for the amendments.
    1. Molox
      Molox 19 June 2020 17: 35 New
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      Quote: nikvic46
      Therefore, I think the majority will vote for the amendments.

      So it will be .. hi The constitution of a drunk EBN written under the dictation of the State Department, as it is high time to change ..
      so that "gentlemen" do not yell, but they will accept it .. Vote against, no one forces you .. What's the problem? The same Putin does not like well, too, vote against .. Or do you need SMUTE in the 90s.?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 19 June 2020 18: 14 New
        +7
        so that "gentlemen" do not yell, but they will accept it .. Vote against, no one forces you .. What's the problem?
        ... It’s logical, because the amendments have already been adopted by the Federal Assembly ... If you do not believe me, read the Constitution and the Federal Law on this topic .. the procedure for adopting amendments ...
      2. Whowhy
        Whowhy 19 June 2020 19: 31 New
        +6
        My friend, can at least you tell us which of the articles of the current Constitution was written under the dictation of the State Department? What does it mean: "it's high time to change"? The Constitution is not a diaper. If the president has long been "putting with the device" on the Constitution, then this does not mean at all that the Constitution is bad, but only that this person is in the wrong place.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 19 June 2020 20: 07 New
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        Quote: Molox
        Constitution drunk EBN written under the dictation of the State Department

        Poured? Have you been drunk? Were present? Are you an alcoholic? Agent Mossad? Have you sold your homeland?
        Try to prove the opposite, balabol. It's a shame, although shame is you .....
        1. Molox
          Molox 19 June 2020 20: 15 New
          -4
          Quote: Silvestr
          Poured? Have you been drunk? Were present? Are you an alcoholic? Agent Mossad? Have you sold your homeland?
          Try to prove the opposite, balabol. It's a shame, although shame is you .....

          Quote: whowhy
          My friend, can at least you tell us which of the articles of the current Constitution was written under the dictation of the State Department? What does it mean: "it's high time to change"? The Constitution is not a diaper

          Well, how are men talking to such people ..? It's hard to argue with the US training manual .. bully
          PS And there are a lot of gangs divorced here, they scour the site ..
  • Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 19 June 2020 17: 29 New
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    Remove from the "amendments" Article 81-3 on "zeroing", Article on religion, to increase the possibilities of the so-called. "State Council", according to which there is no law yet, but we perfectly understand who will steer it, vacating the chair of the President - and I will vote BEHIND.
    And so - categorical NO . Tired of it.
    1. flicker
      flicker 20 June 2020 00: 11 New
      -6
      having vacated the President’s chair - and I will vote FOR.
      And so - a categorical NO. Tired of it.
      laughing You yourself are not funny wassat What are the vagaries?
      Kindergarten.