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Chinese and Indian military confront battle on border: conflict between nuclear powers

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Alarming news continues to come from the Sino-Indian border in the mountainous region of Ladakh. Clashes are reported between Indian and Chinese troops, the strength of which has grown in the region over the past few months. Both countries also deployed numerous weapons to the border, including patrol boats, which China deployed on a local lake.


As a result of application weapons there are casualties on both sides. The Indian side claims that the Chinese military lost 43 soldiers killed and wounded. Talking about their own losses, in India they call the number in "17 wounded and two killed."

Earlier it was reported that only the Indian side lost 20 people dead. As you can see, the data are contradictory, but the fact remains that there are losses and they are such that there have not been more than 40 years in the region.

According to recent reports, the parties that came together in battle used artillery and mortars.

The battle was fought in the Galvan valley, near Lake Pangong. The Indian press stated that "India will not tolerate violations by China of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country."

Indian authorities:

We demand the immediate withdrawal of those thousands of Chinese military who are deployed to Ladakh. This transfer violates previous agreements.

It should be noted that the clash on the border occurred after a series of attempts to agree on the separation of forces and assets, as well as on the status of Ladakh. But, apparently, the negotiations were unsuccessful.

There are risks of new fights in Ladakh.

In such a situation, it is difficult to say that fighting on the border is beneficial to China or India. If we are not talking about the ambitions of the two countries, then we can make an assumption of provocation, which could lead to a shootout. At the same time, it is important for both sides not to forget that they are nuclear powers, and therefore their conflict can lead to terrible consequences not only for Asia, but for the whole world.

By the way, it was about the provocation that the Chinese Defense Ministry announced. True, in this case it was meant "provocation from the Indian side."
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    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 17 June 2020 07: 44 New
      12
      Knowing a certain “fanatical attitude” between these countries, and taking into account the population, as well as the availability of nuclear weapons, clashes can lead to extremely negative consequences both for the region and the whole world. At a minimum, this will be an additional blow to the economy, amid a pandemic and oil wars.
      2020 does not stop unpleasantly pouring negative
      1. 5-9
        5-9 17 June 2020 13: 40 New
        +1
        Given the very amount of nuclear weapons on both sides, territory and population, the consequences can only be for the economy .... although of course there will be nothing
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 17 June 2020 19: 05 New
        -1
        Quote: Mitroha
        as well as the presence of nuclear weapons

        One thing is good - even if they all start throwing vigorous loaves, there is around the mountain, so the muck will not spread to the whole world, unlike the Wuhan virus.
        1. Duxan
          Duxan 17 June 2020 19: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Nagan
          Quote: Mitroha
          as well as the presence of nuclear weapons

          One thing is good - even if they all start throwing vigorous loaves, there is around the mountain, so the muck will not spread to the whole world, unlike the Wuhan virus.

          The United States and others also think so and are trying in every possible way to pit them .. The West needs war and this is why they usually make good money and write off their debts .. Have they calculated everything?
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 17 June 2020 21: 49 New
            -1
            Quote: Duxan
            West needs war

            What for? China will not buy weapons or ammunition. And India - yes, it will become, but - "a larger number, cheaper price", i.e. rather, not in the West, but in the Russian Federation.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 17 June 2020 07: 45 New
      +1
      Even if 50 soldiers die on each side every day, population growth in both countries will not stop. But war is always bad.
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 17 June 2020 10: 10 New
        11
        Quote: siberalt
        Even if 50 soldiers die on each side every day, population growth in both countries will not stop. But war is always bad.

        Accurate with digits, they are easily checked. 50 thousand a day is 18 million a year. For 19 years, 17 million were born in China, more than 9 million died.
      2. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 17 June 2020 11: 15 New
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        Even if 50 soldiers die on each side every day, population growth in both countries will not stop.

        But the combat readiness reserve and military specialists will end pretty quickly. Express courses for junior commanders will partially remove the problem, but what to do with pilots, etc.?
      3. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 17 June 2020 12: 44 New
        +3
        Even if 50 soldiers die on each side every day, population growth in both countries will not stop. But war is always bad.

        Will stop. The increase is approximately 17000 per day. In China. India doesn’t even want to count. Still those ants.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 17 June 2020 14: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Interlocutor
          17000 per day

          It is approximately similar to our total human losses (on average, per day) in the Great Patriotic War, according to official data.
    3. Civil
      Civil 17 June 2020 07: 51 New
      -7
      Quote: Courier
      America is to blame. Forced to throw 10 thousand Chinese to the border.

      I knew it, the American military with the support of gay players from NATO.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 17 June 2020 12: 55 New
        +2
        ... let their Tibetan monks pull away ..
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 17 June 2020 07: 31 New
    -3
    The Chinese are warming up. But here is what?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 17 June 2020 08: 29 New
      11
      Quote: sergo1914
      The Chinese are warming up. But here is what?

      Are they Chinese? Neither Beijing nor Delhi is profitable. But to draw into the "harlot" his main economic competitor, which is China, the dream of mattresses. If he (the harlot) is also a military man, then this is generally a gift for the US economy. India has a huge market for the arms of the American military-industrial complex + a huge human mobilization resource that will allow waging war for more than one year, which will divert significant resources of the PRC and at the same time provide the US military with orders and jobs. Coronavirus apparently did not give the desired effect, since the Chinese sent the mattresses to the forest with their claim for compensation of $ 100 billion, so they decided to go from the side of the border military provocation. Something like that. winked
      1. New
        New Year day 17 June 2020 09: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Something like that

        Hindus signed up for Americans? And what is the benefit to the Indians?
        1. KAV
          KAV 17 June 2020 10: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: Silvestr
          Hindus signed up for Americans? And what is the benefit to the Indians?

          What does the American subscription have to do with it? Hindus sign for themselves, but at the suggestion of the United States, which are pushing for war, promising any help and support. You were born yesterday, honestly ...
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 June 2020 10: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        If he (the harlot) is also a military man, then this is generally a gift for the US economy

        The formula works "War, Commodity, Money, War."
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 17 June 2020 10: 39 New
          +6
          Quote: sergo1914
          The Chinese are warming up. But here is what?

          Reflected in their wonderful "doctrine of 2050" as political scientists called it, in fact, at the congress of the Chinese / Celestial Empire / Communist Party, it proclaimed "a look into heaven."
          So, in 2020, the process of military clashes with neighbors begins, and by the apogee of 2050 the PLA should fully comply with the competitive capabilities of the US army. At this time, China is about to conduct a "peaceful expansion" / according to Boko Haram, which is fully fueled by Chinese ammunition-- --a this is the main sign in the identification of the group / very clearly and clearly visible "what we fed the tiger"
  3. Bashkirkhan
    Bashkirkhan 17 June 2020 07: 33 New
    11
    Showdown between two anthills. There is a billion people on each side.
  4. Rusland
    Rusland 17 June 2020 07: 38 New
    -6
    China and the Koreans are a historical irritant for the Japanese, while India and China are an Anglo-Saxon project in terms of "supporting" stability in the region.
    1. novel66
      novel66 17 June 2020 09: 18 New
      +5
      Vital, I think - the Indians muddied, then Packs bit. now here are the synanthropes
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 17 June 2020 09: 46 New
        +2
        Roma hi good health. That's all in a compartment, India with the money, America puts pressure on China specifically, while hinting at the "girlfriend" of India. It seems to draw the "billionaires" into further "good neighborliness."
        We are pulling up arms both of them, but we are purchasing, although they criticize the US, saying that we have a bad gun.
        1. novel66
          novel66 17 June 2020 09: 48 New
          +2
          the military always overwhelms ... yes, hello, of course! hi
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 17 June 2020 07: 46 New
    +4
    The gun has been hanging for a long time ... and lately there have been more and more cartridges next to it.
    Now how ???
    1. Rusland
      Rusland 17 June 2020 07: 52 New
      +4
      It has long been HOW. yes
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 June 2020 08: 01 New
        +2
        But how, how? events go their own way, and in the heads of eccentric journals and political scientists / experts, various scenarios of the development of events are muddled, which they give out to the mountain!
        1. Rusland
          Rusland 17 June 2020 08: 12 New
          +3
          I agree, simply designated "AS" as a stagnant phenomenon or as a fact. You see how many "what", and so I welcome the fellow soldiers. hi drinks
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 17 June 2020 08: 29 New
            +2
            Welcome soldier
            It happens that some people have a desire to slightly invigorate a stagnant event ... only slightly, I suppose, they will stop there.
          2. Revival
            Revival 17 June 2020 12: 24 New
            -6
            I could not resist, I will connect to your dialogue ..
            And then the “how” that you designated as “how”, it is felted as “how” or as “how”, which as “how” is indicated by your interlocutor, but how then with “how”?)))))
            1. Rusland
              Rusland 17 June 2020 17: 20 New
              +2
              Quote: Revival
              I could not resist, I will connect to your dialogue ..
              And then the “how” that you designated as “how”, it is felted as “how” or as “how”, which as “how” is indicated by your interlocutor, but how then with “how”?)))))

              Good and capable boy. yes
            2. A good one
              A good one 17 June 2020 18: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Revival
              I could not resist, I will connect to your dialogue ..

              And it’s like in thimbles, when a shaggy ball is chased in opaque glasses, a pendal from the back is given for attention, so pass by, if one toe remains, say on the right foot, then luck is on your side. wink .
    2. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 17 June 2020 07: 57 New
      0
      Yes, not like Victor (good morning laughing ) India and Pakistan are constantly chasing each other, so what? (Loaves also have both) A simple local cabal. The landscape will not allow a more or less large conflict (as well as the second wave of the crown).
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 17 June 2020 08: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: zadorin1974
        The landscape will not allow a more or less large conflict to be developed (as well as the second wave of the crown).

        They probably just don’t need this. A big batch is difficult and expensive, and so, a distracting background for the average person, for a lot, many, average people!
        1. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 17 June 2020 08: 09 New
          +1
          Well, yes, they will let in several infantry groups of around a million on both sides wassat who counts them.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 June 2020 10: 11 New
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      The gun has been hanging for a long time ... and lately there have been more and more cartridges next to it.
      Now how ???

      The gun may hang, but the cartridges have an expiration date, so you need to shoot old and buy new ones. Hence the conclusion, the lads have fun.
  6. Hey
    Hey 17 June 2020 07: 51 New
    +2
    With whom does China have no disputed territories and from whom has it not squeezed something out, or has it not yet squeezed out? Kyrgyzstan has already given away part of the territory. Russia has given a number of islands along the Amur River, including Domansky Island, for which our Soviet wars gave their lives. They also want to hide in this matter for the new Constitution.
    1. cradle
      cradle 17 June 2020 08: 05 New
      -3
      do not escalate how much you gave, but no less acquired it. And the Chinese Indians for a long time 1840s will remember their participation in the aggression against China and the sale of drugs. The Indians are still arias.
    2. Arhat
      Arhat 17 June 2020 08: 38 New
      0
      Damansky, and you know, of course I don’t want to say anything, but there is a word WAR, and there is a word WAR, it is necessary to explain what are the differences? It seems to me that you are not quite aware of what you are writing about. If in essence, then the exchange of territories was equivalent, and it was an exchange, do you know anything about this?
      Quote: MUD
      With whom does China have no disputed territories and from whom has it not squeezed something out, or has it not yet squeezed out? Kyrgyzstan has already given away part of the territory. Russia has given a number of islands along the Amur River, including Domansky Island, for which our Soviet wars gave their lives. They also want to hide in this matter for the new Constitution.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 June 2020 10: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Arhat
        If in essence, then the exchange of territories was equivalent, and it was an exchange, do you know anything about this?
        By the way, the Chinese are not embarrassed to celebrate their "May 9th" - they September 11th, when negotiations on the islands began, is considered the day of victory over the USSR on Damansky Island. And we are not even allowed to remember our own. Do you know this?
        1. Grits
          Grits 17 June 2020 14: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And we are not even allowed to remember our own. Do you know this?

          In Dalnerechensk, at the local cemetery, there is a large memorial in memory of those killed in Damansky. And the chapel. There they buried those killed in the battles. Who's stopping you from remembering yours there?
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion 17 June 2020 09: 15 New
      +3
      For those who have zero knowledge of the materiel, China does not have territorial disputes with Russia, since, having received in FIG no one unnecessary islands in the middle of the river, I had to officially admit that all territorial issues were closed on this. Smart people from such acquisitions prefer to refuse, if they have reason to say that more can be squeezed out ..
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 June 2020 10: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: EvilLion
        China has no territorial disputes with Russia, since, having received in FIG no one unnecessary islands in the middle of the river, I had to officially admit that on this all territorial issues were closed.
        The Beijing Treaty did not say anything about the ownership of the islands. According to the agreement, the eastern border between Russia and China was established, starting from the confluence of the Shilka and Argun rivers, downstream of the river. Cupid to the confluence of the river. Ussuri. The treaty bypassed the issue of the ownership of the islands and a clear border on the Amur, Russia and China have not been designated for more than 100 years - from 1860 to 1990. When the PRC was formed, there were no problems with borders; everything was resolved on a friendly basis. The problems began with the death of Stalin and the coming to power of Khrushchev. Using this example, one can clearly see the consequences of a leader’s incomprehension of the canons of geopolitics. This “crooked spotlight” managed in a few years to surrender a number of positions to the Anglo-Saxon powers and severely ruin relations with the allied China and initiated the border problem of Khrushchev, who poured mud on Stalin, who was an unquestioned authority for Mao Dzedong and committed a number of unfriendly actions against China. The result of the short-sighted policy of the Khrushchev flock is the fighting on Damansky Island, as well as in Kazakhstan and, most importantly, the reversal of China from friendship and cooperation with the USSR to the United States.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 17 June 2020 11: 04 New
          +1
          Well? Write for yourself that they did not discuss the ownership of the islands. Accordingly, there was at least a reason for a quarrel. If you have discussed it, then it will be strange to come and demand something, and you can reconsider something only through an aggressive war.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 June 2020 11: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: EvilLion
            Write for yourself that they did not discuss the ownership of the islands. Accordingly, there was at least a reason for a quarrel.

            I write what happened, but everything was settled for many decades. I lived in the border regions with China, and there were no problems until the eccentric Khrushchev led to a confrontation.
        2. Grits
          Grits 17 June 2020 14: 43 New
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The Beijing Treaty did not say anything about the ownership of the islands

          I don’t remember in what agreement (too lazy to look) the border between Russia and China was established not on all the borders on the rivers between the countries - along the fairway, but along the coastline ... of China. This treaty was drawn up at a time when China was weakened and it was not up to the borders. Naturally, in accordance with this agreement, we considered Damansky to be our own. Although it is located on the Chinese coast. A narrow channel separates it from China, and the rest of the wide river from ours. Therefore, the Chinese considered him theirs. Harassed him, caught fish. After quarreling with the Chinese, the issue of ownership got out and a conflict arose.
          The demarcation of the border established a modern border between the Russian Federation and China according to the adopted rules - along the fairway. Fair. But the legendary Damansky remained with the Chinese.
          By the way, the Chinese made further concessions regarding the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island near Khabarovsk. According to the rules, he was supposed to leave the whole Chinese. But he was divided in half.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 June 2020 14: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Gritsa
            By the way, the Chinese made further concessions regarding the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island near Khabarovsk. According to the rules, he was supposed to leave the whole Chinese. But he was divided in half.

            Well, yes, we took him, it seems after the conflict on the CER.
            1. Grits
              Grits 17 June 2020 15: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Well, yes, we took him, it seems after the conflict on the CER.

              Honestly, I don’t know. Just earlier, the border passed along the Kazakevich channel. Which is still smaller than the main Ussuri channel near Khabarovsk. In principle, it was enough for the Chinese only to lightly pour Kazakevich’s duct with all sorts of rubbish so that the fairway finally went towards our shore. They do such tricks on the Tumangan River near Hassan, pushing their bank.
  7. askort154
    askort154 17 June 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    The world is not moving away from the catastrophe, but is approaching it every year. The foci do not quench, but rather multiply: Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Georgia, Libya, Syria,
    Ukraine, Iran-Israel and, again, Libya, North Korea and South Korea, China-India-Pakistan (the last three possess nuclear weapons). The US is becoming more aggressive against Russia and China. At such an increasing rate - the 20th century may be the last on the planet.
    And everywhere the ears of the Anglo-Saxons stick out - from century to century.
  8. venik
    venik 17 June 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    "...But, apparently, the negotiations were unsuccessful..... "
    =========
    It seems that they themselves (without external mediation) they are unlikely to agree ..... But others are not up to them now. So, I'm afraid - this is just the beginning .....
  9. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 17 June 2020 08: 07 New
    -5
    Let them have fun, well, for them a couple of tens or hundreds of people?
  10. forest1
    forest1 17 June 2020 08: 11 New
    -10
    Star-shaped six-pointed ears are clearly sticking out here.
    Is fecit cui prodest.
    Shukay to whom vig_dno
  11. Revolver
    Revolver 17 June 2020 08: 21 New
    +3
    According to Fox News, the Chinese killed three Indians on the spot, and another 17 died subsequently from wounds. The losses of the Chinese side are not reported. Moreover, according to the Chinese representatives, no weapons were used, the fight was using fists and stones. recourse
    Obviously, escalation is expected before the use of clubs and spears with stone tips. laughing
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 17 June 2020 09: 45 New
      0
      ... no weapons were used, the fight was with fists and stones.
      Yes indeed. I just listened to Dr. Maslov on the radio. According to his Chinese sources there was a melee.
    2. alone
      alone 17 June 2020 11: 10 New
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      Moreover, according to the Chinese representatives, no weapons were used, the fight was using fists and stones.

      And where were the fighting elephants of the Hindus? laughing
  12. Dave36
    Dave36 17 June 2020 08: 37 New
    +1
    No wonder - multibillion-dollar investments in the PLA, falling markets ... China will begin to use its armed forces in problem areas, realizing that Doni is essentially putting an end to China (if re-elected) .. and the threat of an invasion even by coalition forces should not be feared .. If the gun hangs on the wall, it can shoot.
  13. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 17 June 2020 08: 42 New
    0
    Most likely we won’t even find out the truth about the reasons for the beginning of the conflict ... but the fact that any disputed point is always on the verge of developing from a cold phase to a hot one is for sure ... an increase of a dozen people ... the appearance of new equipment ... construction of a new facility ... anything in that case is the reason ...
    A strange coincidence of the synchronization of the escalation of tension along the borders of India from Pakistan and China ... This does not happen by chance ...
  14. Free wind
    Free wind 17 June 2020 08: 48 New
    0
    Yes, let them whip, do not worry at all.
  15. unhappy
    unhappy 17 June 2020 08: 52 New
    0
    The Chinese are bulling. Who forgot - Tibet lost its independence not so long ago, like under Mao.
  16. Karaul73
    Karaul73 17 June 2020 08: 56 New
    +1
    Let both sides of the couples release and calm down. And then it’s up to the diplomats.
  17. Eug
    Eug 17 June 2020 09: 07 New
    0
    For Russia, this is shitty - both countries buy Russian weapons. Both may require to decide on the support side and as a result, relations with one of the buyers may be lost or greatly complicated .. but if you manage to resolve the conflict through the mediation of Russia, it will be brilliant success ..
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 17 June 2020 10: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Eug
      Both may require a decision on the support side.

      Are there precedents?
      1. Maxwrx
        Maxwrx 17 June 2020 19: 41 New
        0
        Yes! Israel blackmailed over Palestine, Syria, Lebanon, the United States when Iran was not supplied with the S-300.
  18. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 17 June 2020 10: 21 New
    +2
    A very tense region where many interests intersect. In 2019, it was administratively separated from such a region as Jammu and Kashmir. So here the dispute is not between two nuclear powers, but three. India, China, Pakistan. Which side should Russia be on? On his own. All three countries buy weapons from us. And if they need more weapons, then they need to sell them.
  19. steelmaker
    steelmaker 17 June 2020 10: 36 New
    +1
    What is the cause of the conflict?
    “According to Indian and foreign military experts, one possible source of current border tensions is the fact that India is building a road near the Galvan River Valley to narrow the gap with China’s more developed road network, set up several years ago. Beijing, in turn, opposes any Indian construction in the area, calling it disputed territory.
    Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2020/06/16/indiya-i-kitay-vstupili-v-zhestokiy-boy-na-granice-est-pogibshie "
    "India has also begun building a runway in the area of ​​the main highway of neighboring Kashmir - another controversial region, but already between India and Pakistan, which is supported by China.
    Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2020/06/16/indiya-i-kitay-vstupili-v-zhestokiy-boy-na-granice-est-pogibshie "
    Judging by this information, China began to greet.
  20. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 June 2020 10: 42 New
    +1
    There, the border runs in the middle of the lake.
    The area is hot. The Indian province of Kashmir, for which India and Pakistan fight periodically. Both capitals: Islamabad and Delhi are not so far from this disputed area. China built a railway nearby to Pakistan there. It is now easy for China to deploy troops there.
  21. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 17 June 2020 10: 45 New
    +1
    There is insanely beautiful on this lake. As if you are on another planet.
  22. alone
    alone 17 June 2020 11: 20 New
    +2
    The Chinese and the Indians have an unresolved territorial dispute .. They already once fought in 1962 and China captured part of India, almost destroying the 4th Indian Infantry Division .. Since then, such skirmishes between them are not new ..
    P, S. In general, this region is very complicated in the military-political sense. There are 3 nuclear powers that are openly at odds with each other .. Where about 3 billion people live, who live in very difficult conditions ..
  23. aviator6768
    aviator6768 17 June 2020 11: 33 New
    -3
    The 9th company - seven 200s .... 17 is a bit much, if true, then there will be consequences ... Although - there and there - a billion ... we, Russians, (we are few, guys, all 50 million !!), it will be difficult to hold on ... although the Donbass is encouraging - although there is zero state support, the guys in the twenty got it - they left ... But - they keep the money ... Beauty! I don’t even know - what are the motivations ... Just besides “stuck” - nothing comes to mind ...
  24. Vipirozhnikow
    Vipirozhnikow 17 June 2020 20: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Mitroha
    Knowing a certain “fanatical attitude” between these countries, and taking into account the population, as well as the availability of nuclear weapons, clashes can lead to extremely negative consequences both for the region and the whole world. At a minimum, this will be an additional blow to the economy, amid a pandemic and oil wars.
    2020 does not stop unpleasantly pouring negative


    According to the results of their conflict, agricultural products can sharply fall in price.