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Experts comment on the statement on the dismantling by Russia of pipes for gas transit through Ukraine

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Experts comment on the Ukrainian statement about the start of dismantling the pipes of the gas pipeline, which is the main one for the so-called “Ukrainian” transit of Gazprom. The head of the company, which is responsible for the Ukrainian GTS (OGTSU), Sergey Makogon, said that with the help of dismantling, Russia "is going to destroy the very theoretical possibility of transporting gas through the territory of Ukraine."


Such a statement by Mr. Makogon appeared today in the publication OilPoint.

According to the main Ukrainian gas carrier, if Russia can complete the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, which, as you know, goes from the Russian Federation to Germany along the Baltic Sea, the Ukrainian gas transmission system will lose the transit of blue fuel.

Makogon declares “Russia's intransigence”, noting that Gazprom could sell gas to Europe “on the border with Ukraine”.

Experts, commenting on the situation, remind Sergey Makogon and the whole Kiev that the whole problem for Ukraine is not in Russia at all, but in the European position. This position is such that it is the EU that does not want to buy Russian gas on the Ukrainian border, as it clearly understands that Ukraine is an unreliable partner:

Ukraine itself has repeatedly proved this by simply stealing gas from a pipe - the gas that has already been sold to Europe.

There was no official confirmation that the dismantling of the transit gas pipeline pipes in the Russian territories adjacent to the Ukrainian border had begun.

For the completion of the SP-2 gas pipeline along the bottom of the Baltic, it is assumed that the Akademik Chersky vessel may be involved. However, at the moment, the construction of the pipeline has not been resumed. The United States threatens sanctions against any companies that will take part in completing a large-scale project that began at the time.

Today it became known that Alexey Miller was re-elected to the post of Chairman of the Management Board of Gazprom Neft.
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  1. loki565
    loki565 16 June 2020 19: 51 New
    -4
    And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 June 2020 19: 53 New
      50
      Quote: loki565
      And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))

      Well, if you can’t see the end, the last bit is finished. Finally, the dream of id. winked
      1. Well
        Well done 16 June 2020 20: 32 New
        41
        I agree! Finally, the real answer to all kinds of suits and other "pornography". And then diplomacy is fed up already. Such news caresses the rumor. drinks
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 16 June 2020 21: 06 New
          -87
          GDP brought the Russian Federation to the point of no return - pipes are cut into a new aircraft carrier of 70 tons of explosives. the sailors got their way, from the couch they won .....
          or gas or an aircraft carrier ...
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 16 June 2020 21: 18 New
            15
            Quote: antivirus
            or gas or aircraft carrier.

            Who has gas? We already have it.
            1. iouris
              iouris 16 June 2020 23: 05 New
              -11
              Are you a member of the board of directors?
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 17 June 2020 19: 57 New
                +1
                Quote: iouris
                Are you a member of the board of directors?

                Is this a prerequisite?
                1. iouris
                  iouris 17 June 2020 23: 27 New
                  -1
                  This is a necessary and sufficient condition.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 18 June 2020 18: 53 New
                    0
                    Quote: iouris
                    It is necessary

                    That is, everyone who uses gas performs it?
          2. Well
            Well done 16 June 2020 21: 25 New
            10
            I respect your point of view, especially "from the couch ........". But are there, in reality, aircraft carriers needed? Is it worth it? Corvetik can easily drown this colossus and 5000 people.
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 16 June 2020 22: 15 New
              10
              it is extremely unlikely to be drowned, but to disable and deprive the aircraft carrier of its main function is laughing
              1. Well
                Well done 16 June 2020 22: 31 New
                +5
                And when you consider that it is atomic? A sort of dirty, smelly atom. Bomb turns out and voila. They said that even the kinetics (without ammunition) of hypersound would be enough to penetrate an aircraft carrier through and through. Chernobyl is floating.
                1. Arthur 85
                  Arthur 85 16 June 2020 22: 49 New
                  -5
                  Um ... So WWII bombs pierced through unarmored ships, without any hypersound. Usually, this wasn’t scary for the ships, because it’s not a tank - wherever you stick, it’s everywhere vital.
                  And so the aircraft carrier, no matter how sad it is to admit, as he reigned at sea, so reigns, and the rest ... Um, untenable
                  1. Well
                    Well done 16 June 2020 23: 04 New
                    13
                    The fact is different. No one ever attacked atomic aircraft carriers "for real." Even the "hegemons" themselves doubt their efficiency) in modern realities.
            2. Avior
              Avior 16 June 2020 22: 16 New
              +3
              . Corvetik can easily drown this colossus and 5000 people.

              If you're lucky, of course. :)))
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 17 June 2020 10: 27 New
                +4
                Quote: Avior
                If you're lucky, of course. :)))

                1. Avior
                  Avior 17 June 2020 10: 49 New
                  -3
                  the phrase is simply immortal, in all military forums on the marine theme you need to make the heading smile
          3. Fitter65
            Fitter65 17 June 2020 00: 33 New
            +9
            Quote: antivirus
            GDP brought Russia to the point of no return - pipes are cut into a new aircraft carrier of 70 tons

            Yes, it happens that you’re still not new, just in case, to the nearest clinic. Well, at least go to the therapist, and he will already determine which specialist to send you to. hi
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 17 June 2020 07: 39 New
              -7
              from a sofa it is more visible to what specialist to address .. already went (because of lack of aircraft carriers)?
              The confrontation between the rocket and the aircraft carrier is not in me, but began from the time of the NSKhrushchev and continues with an obvious advantage in favor of dry put and missile

              and GDP must make decisions and most likely make the right ones, for someone (couches ..) they are out of color (Yaroslavl paints, etc.)
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 17 June 2020 13: 14 New
                +2
                Quote: antivirus
                from a sofa it is more visible to what specialist to address .. already went (because of lack of aircraft carriers)?
                The confrontation between the rocket and the aircraft carrier is not in me, but began from the time of the NSKhrushchev and continues with an obvious advantage in favor of dry put and missile
                In the confusion, or rather the nonsense that you wrote in your comments, it’s generally hard to understand, moreover, there are couch specialists, Khrushchev with his confrontation, an aircraft carrier rocket, Yaroslavl paints, GDP and the pipeline ..
                1. antivirus
                  antivirus 17 June 2020 15: 21 New
                  -2
                  confusion in the headX. and coms you need to read sequentially in your profile - a few articles on the topic "build 70 tons of aircraft carriers"
                  most often minusers remember my several coms and sequentially "-------"
                  and for runners for ++++ and epaulettes it’s not important to read and comprehend what is happening in the world, - THE MAIN “RECEIVE ON HYIP” - in the first rows to squeeze com
          4. Roman123567
            Roman123567 17 June 2020 08: 55 New
            -13
            And I thought from these pipes the Tsar’s disinfection corridor is being built in Novo-ogaryovo ..))
          5. Joker62
            Joker62 17 June 2020 15: 26 New
            +1
            What kind of nonsense? Where is stolen, dill?
            1. antivirus
              antivirus 17 June 2020 15: 28 New
              -1
              Kohlyatsky reprimand noticeable
              They wrote a lot about "we need to build aircraft carriers and sell gas to Europe."
              In my opinion, these hype topics are only two small factors in the life of a huge country, there are also military towns and schools (they did not discuss anything except the Unified State Exam) and security and 1001 other topics.
              “BUT THE MILITARY NEEDS TO CRUMP ON GAS” and about “spaceships plow open spaces” - at this time “aircraft carriers need to be built”, although in addition to Shoigu, the Navy also (probably) thinks Gerasimov and the General Staff.
              they haven’t been kicked for corvettes in "1000 tons, not like under Ustinov"
              but soon the patriots will get to the "enemy of Gerasimov" and the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy - "WE WANT TO BUILD AIR CARRIERS", and these do not listen to commentators on VO
        2. Civil
          Civil 16 June 2020 21: 45 New
          -20
          Pipes for scrap! And sell gas to the Chinese, turning the western pipes to the East. And the main thing is not to contradict the wise leadership of China,
        3. military_cat
          military_cat 16 June 2020 22: 14 New
          -2
          Quote: Welldone
          Such news caresses the rumor. drinks

          It’s easy, probably, to write news, caressing the ear, when the audience is let down by memory. Pipes will not be dismantled for another five years at least, because Ukraine and Russia have signed an agreement on gas transit for five years, have they forgotten all this already?

          "There has been no official confirmation that the dismantling of the transit gas pipeline in the Russian territories adjacent to the Ukrainian border has begun."

          It seems to me that the press service is creating a positive background to cover the payment of $ 1.5 billion to Poland by decision of the Stockholm arbitration, the deadline for which expires on July 1.
          1. Well
            Well done 16 June 2020 22: 48 New
            +2
            I want to note that I did not compose this news. But she was pleasant to my perception. Well, if it's a fake, then to hell with it) (Or maybe there is no smoke without fire?)
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 16 June 2020 22: 50 New
              -3
              Quote: Welldone
              Or maybe there is no smoke without fire?

              It happens when a smoke screen is arranged.
              1. Well
                Well done 16 June 2020 22: 58 New
                +1
                Tautology.
            2. Roman123567
              Roman123567 17 June 2020 08: 57 New
              -6
              Then you can still add that Ukraine is frozen .. since even fakes can be happy ..)))
              And at the expense of smoke without fire .. the man just mentioned this too:
              It seems to me that the press service is creating a positive background to cover the payment of $ 1.5 billion to Poland by decision of the Stockholm arbitration, the deadline for which expires on July 1.
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 17 June 2020 02: 27 New
            +8
            Why not? Find the piping scheme and understand that before signing the last contract, Gazprom pumped through Ukraine an average of 80 billion cubic meters even after the Maidan. Now it will download 40. Power is excessive. So it’s quite possible they can start to do this with an eye to the fact that further transit will no longer be. And why then will it just stand so much?
          3. T.Henks
            T.Henks 17 June 2020 09: 22 New
            +1
            Viy is remembered. Here the pan will send a thousand pieces of gold! Here we go for a walk!
            To which the wise man answered:
            go read. And read it!
            To bury a little panel early.
          4. Tamparu
            Tamparu 17 June 2020 18: 37 New
            0

            Quote: Welldone
            Such news caresses the rumor. drinks

            It’s easy, probably, to write news, caressing the ear, when the audience is let down by memory. Pipes will not be dismantled for another five years at least, because Ukraine and Russia have signed an agreement on gas transit for five years, have they forgotten all this already?

            And how do you like this option?
            Completing, or somewhere nearby, SP2. Then such an "unexpected" !!! Somewhere, not far from the border of the Russian Federation with Ukraine, in the late autumn, a section of a gas pipe suddenly explodes, which stretches towards Ukraine and which cannot be quickly restored. After a short period of time, infa pops up that the "Ukrainian saboteurs" broke this pipe for a reason ... well, there could be any reason ... And Russia includes turbocharging in SP2 so that Europe does not freeze, and the explosion is recognized as force majeure .. . winked
            Of course, a weak argument for force majeure, but as an option ... laughing
        4. Charik
          Charik 16 June 2020 22: 27 New
          -1
          huh, crap is all the more official silence, but what’s more, will they give one and a half yards of Amer’s?
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 16 June 2020 22: 32 New
            -7
            Gazprom by July 1 will return the Polish PGNiG $ 1,5 billion overpayment for gas by decision of the Stockholm arbitration. PGNiG signed with Gazprom Export an addition to the agreement on gas supply through the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline of 1996, on June 5 the document was signed in electronic form, and on June 15 on paper with the exchange of the original documents.

            https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3273609
            1. Charik
              Charik 16 June 2020 22: 37 New
              -10
              it’s a shame to rejoice about the pipes? where to get a half and a half? -Volody give denyushki we poor we miss
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 16 June 2020 22: 38 New
                -2
                Of the pensions, of course. Please treat with understanding.
                1. Charik
                  Charik 16 June 2020 22: 43 New
                  -4
                  from pensions most likely everything is already eaten
              2. Revival
                Revival 17 June 2020 01: 21 New
                -3
                You do not understand, this is the same breakthrough!
                And yes, I can’t help but add, it would be until July 2, then yes, with the amendments “on priority” I would hide behind
            2. forpost
              forpost 17 June 2020 21: 57 New
              +1
              Now, apparently, Gazprom wants to apply the same trick in arbitration, but in the opposite direction. That is, he can show that since 2017, the Polish company has paid less for gas under the contract than gas was on the spot ”,
              https://yandex.ru/turbo/s/vz.ru/economy/2020/6/16/1045293.html
              1. military_cat
                military_cat 18 June 2020 07: 30 New
                -1
                Quote: forpost
                wants

                Well, good luck to him.
                1. forpost
                  forpost 18 June 2020 19: 32 New
                  0
                  why not? trodden by psheks and tufts
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 16 June 2020 21: 57 New
        +8
        Quote: Terenin
        Finally, the dream of id.

        About the "dream" did not understand no There is a war with Russia (though WE don’t know about it), the "occupiers" (this is WE again), we mine scrap metal in our rear (WE) for the next Buryat horse-tank division (we ran out (WE don't know again) ore deposits - therefore (THEM).
        So it’s not a dream, it’s a “harassment from damned Muscovites”, they didn’t live up to the country's hopes that it’s not dead, probably not for long, a new anthem will appear soon, with new words - it’s dead wassat
        And if without jokes - most likely there is a planned replacement of the pipeline (US, unlike THEM, has money and opportunities for this), but the Unity has no mind and yells. laughing
      3. aviator6768
        aviator6768 17 June 2020 00: 26 New
        -7
        What? You and me? Minus 25 yards a year (I personally knew Ram Ivanovitch drove), he would have fired everyone for that ... (although he is an intelligent man, BUT Miller is weak ... My Old Man worked under Shcherbin .. . Then our incomes and pensions were made with you ... He put a point in Noyabrsk (along with the head smu-26 in his Urals with the number 9123 (atb-9 n, urenga, Vasya, alive, hello, for the shepherd dog-sms ,, ,) - simply in the place of geologists (those were always the first ... determined the parking - the one of their own, and the one of their own ... So our land rents were made ... All KGB people are kids, piOnErs ,,, guys, read Marx, I would advise our Keynes Jaynord (once trampled upon capitalism ...) You are Nobody (corrected, "Nobody", even at least thrice associates of the MOST ... This is not unfounded - in figures and facts you can get ... You have to work ... Don’t give in ... Why are you afraid of whom? Lawrence as an example? Yes, he’s the same type, but he set the cosmos? Did he make a nucleus? Is it so weak for you? Weak !!
      4. Vend
        Vend 17 June 2020 11: 13 New
        +3
        As they say in fear, the eyes are large laughing but Svidomo’s thoughts are going in the right direction laughing
    2. Ugnetenni
      Ugnetenni 16 June 2020 19: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: loki565
      And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))

      The good news, everyone is heading for this! Freebie end ....
      And if we stir up with the Germans, then this will be a new world format and the West is terribly afraid of it.! But shouting hurray early .. Old Merkel needs to be changed for sale!
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 16 June 2020 20: 47 New
        30
        Yes, it’s not Merkel that needs to be changed, but the economic basis of gas trading that needs to be changed: if we set up industrial processing of gas (both network and liquefied!), We will make a profit 10-30 times greater than when trading just gas for heating, since solvents , alcohols, synthetics, fiber, plastics and hundreds of other applications give a much higher surplus value and create millions of HIGH-TECH jobs with a good salary than to open-close the valve on the pipe ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 17 June 2020 02: 29 New
          +3
          What is being done. Contracts for the supply of raw and commercial gas, ethane fraction have been signed. An EPC contract was signed for the creation of gas processing facilities and a plant-wide economy for the integrated complex, "the report says. In addition, Gazprom and Ruskhimalliance concluded 20-year commercial contracts for the supply of commercial and raw gas. Thus, a long-term guarantee is guaranteed raw materials supply of the integrated complex.

          According to the signed documents, ethane-containing natural gas will be supplied from Gazprom fields to Ruskhimalliance. The volume of deliveries will be 45 billion cubic meters. m per year. The gas that remains after processing (separation of the ethane fraction and other valuable components) and LNG production will be supplied in the amount of about 18 billion cubic meters. m per year to the gas transmission system of Gazprom. At the same time, the official representative of Gazprom Sergey Kupriyanov noted that the agreement signed with Ruskhimalliance provides for the supply of 45 billion cubic meters. m of gas annually for 20 years. He also added that in Russia this is the largest gas supply contract in the history of Gazprom.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 16 June 2020 21: 38 New
        +9
        Quote: Ugnetenni
        Old Merkel needs to change the corrupt

        We will again recall old Merkel with a kind word (I hope). At the end of her term, she stubbornly does not want to go to bed under the n-owls. And even if she takes a curtain and establishes a landmark decision in the Bundeswehr on some form of interaction or integration with Russia (economic, political or military), then she, as head of state, will not be charged. And then there will be nothing to take p-som from it, for age and the prefix "Ex". I could only.
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 16 June 2020 22: 14 New
          +8
          In response to US opposition to the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, US liquefied natural gas (LNG) should be levied duties. This was stated by the head of the Bundestag Committee on Economics and Energy Klaus Ernst, reports TASS. He emphasized that the government should consider possible steps in case Washington nevertheless wants to tighten its own sanctions and damage German companies. Among other measures, Ernst called the call of the American ambassador and sanctions against US senators, who acted as authors of the sanctions bill.
          1. Charik
            Charik 16 June 2020 22: 30 New
            0
            still would Pamer soldiers with weapons kicked out, generally beauty
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 17 June 2020 07: 17 New
          +2
          At least, all the persons who came to all significant places in the Pr-v under Grandma turned out to be Russophobes to a greater or lesser extent, and these facts significantly reduce the degree of praise to the Old Woman.
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 17 June 2020 07: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: hydrox
            all the people who came to all significant places under the Grandmother in Pr-ve turned out to be more or less Russophobic

            Considering the degree of influence of the n-sov on the political life of Germany, I will assume that it is simply impossible to enter the government on a wave other than Russophobian. The candidate will be "grounded" long before the election. Therefore, I propose to look at the real actions of the Bundestag at the present time. Of course, while it is difficult to call them friendly, but also not hostile. We wait. I think it’s not long. And Russophobes "repainted" as two fingers on the asphalt. There would be a demand for mood. hi
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 17 June 2020 07: 54 New
              +2
              No objection: the current position of Germany is more "integrally ours" than to give it the definition of "unfriendly".
        3. toha124
          toha124 18 June 2020 09: 48 New
          +1
          A landmark decision, I hope, in the Bundestag winked
          For the iconic decisions from the Bundeswehr - this is a little scary.
      3. New
        New Year day 16 June 2020 23: 52 New
        -2
        Quote: Ugnetenni
        Old Merkel needs to change the corrupt!

        When do you start? laughing
        It will be interesting to look at interference in the internal affairs of a foreign state and the consequences of this stupidity.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 17 June 2020 08: 01 New
          +3
          Yes, he will not change anything (especially not knowing WHOM AND FOR WHAT it’s necessary to change), it’s it with tires with progazovanie yuzanul corner
      4. Roman123567
        Roman123567 17 June 2020 09: 03 New
        -1
        The good news, everyone is heading for this! Freebie end ..
        can we live now ??)
        And if we stir up with the Germans, then this will be a new world format
        Oh, if only this format would not lead to the fact that the Germans will receive pensions of $ 200 ..)))
        But screaming cheers early ..
        But why early ... start already .. Here some are just doing it so that the country does not happen ..
        3 lard Ukraine, 1,5 lard Poland - this is our new world format .. uraaaa ..))

        Old Merkel needs to change the corrupt!
        exactly .. all the troubles because of her .. Previously, Obama didn’t let us live, but now here she is ..))
    3. credo
      credo 16 June 2020 20: 28 New
      11
      Quote: loki565
      And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))

      The good news is like a sip of good wine - you don’t drink in one gulp, but slowly savor it and get real pleasure from this process.
      1. loki565
        loki565 16 June 2020 21: 32 New
        +2
        The good news is like a sip of good wine - you don’t drink in one gulp, but slowly savor it and get real pleasure from this process.

        Wow))) they would have completed SP2, then you could dictate your conditions.
      2. New
        New Year day 16 June 2020 23: 57 New
        -8
        Quote: credo
        The good news is like a sip of good wine - you don’t drink in one gulp, but slowly savor it and get real pleasure from this process.

        So same good wine! But what if the bootleg turned out to be?
        1. Roman123567
          Roman123567 17 June 2020 09: 06 New
          -4
          Here such wine aesthetes gathered .. they relish the news .. slowly .. I suppose it’s already spreading over my knees ..
          Damn .. and adults seem to be sitting .. masturbating on pipes ..
          1. credo
            credo 17 June 2020 13: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Roman123567
            Here such wine aesthetes gathered .. they relish the news .. slowly .. I suppose it’s already spreading over my knees ..
            Damn .. and adults seem to be sitting .. masturbating on pipes ..

            Do not judge by yourself, not all of them are like you.
    4. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 16 June 2020 22: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: loki565
      And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))


      It is better to repeat this news every hour, so that it is more fun. Anecdote from a novice futurologist
      (futurist-tuftourist) a former member of the Communist Party comrade Turchinov. laughing good
      The Russian Federation will certainly suffer the fate of the USSR, and after its collapse, the Kuban and other territories will depart to Ukraine. This was announced by the ex-secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov in an interview in the Rendezvous program. According to Turchinov, in the case of the script he voiced, the official version of the anthem of Ukraine will become more complete.

      “The time will come - and we will sing the second verse of our anthem. "From Xiang to the Don." What can you do. I’m a beginner futurist, but I’m convinced, and historical experience shows that Russia is a colossus with feet of clay, ”Turchinov said. He recalled that in "no one believed in the collapse of the USSR", and this happened.

      “And when this process of disintegration begins, and the policy of this military clique will lead to this ... Because, when the West still takes a consistent position, they will have destroyed the economic foundation and the power core on which the current government rests. And people, in the end, will get tired of being afraid. They will cross over. Therefore, there will be a collapse of Russia. And of course, those territories that want to live together with a large and powerful Ukraine are welcome, please, ”Turchynov noted.

      https://m.zen.yandex.ru/media/golubev_synergy/turchinov-kuban-i-vsia-rossiia-voidut-v-sostav-ukrainy-5ee885e264d6731cc9e1fb57
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    5. Aibolit
      Aibolit 17 June 2020 01: 29 New
      -11
      Yes!!!!
      Therefore, as “fuflomycin” (arbidol, Sobyanin, Mishustin, etc.) = HEALS (heals the same)!
      Well, all the same, Russa ate: “Europe does not want to buy GAS at the border in Ukraine”

      Yeah! Maybe it’s more profitable for Miller to steal gas together with Ukrainians, when transit through / to / to Ukraine?
      Babyshche with a scythe (LesU in Ukraine) - remember !?
    6. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 17 June 2020 09: 30 New
      0
      And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))

      No news, just guesses. Why print it?
    7. waha36
      waha36 18 June 2020 07: 16 New
      0
      Though I’m from Little Russia, and this news should scare and depress me, but it seems to me that the pan-and-leg jumped.
  2. WILL
    WILL 16 June 2020 19: 51 New
    -3
    Is it for us now to congratulate Miller on the next re-election? request
    We expected the news from Ukraine to develop ... and we got another “joy”!
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 16 June 2020 20: 04 New
      -4
      It is necessary to congratulate the population of Russia - as there has been no gas in the village for 30 years, there will not be another 50 years, and not 200 tyr for connection. take it, but ... they won’t take it at all, because NO ONE will have such millions of incomes and nobody will be able to pay for the connection !!! crying
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 16 June 2020 20: 21 New
        +7
        I put you a plus. Apparently local minusers are ashamed to admit that you wrote the truth. I have many relatives in the Kursk province. And they started to conduct gas in the villages only in the 2000s. And then, only those who had money. As a result, gasification for all remained only on paper. After all, in addition to supplying gas, you also need a boiler !!! And where do people with sn on a collective farm 10 thousand have such money !? You can minus me too, since the truth hurts my eyes wassat
        1. loki565
          loki565 16 June 2020 20: 32 New
          10
          Do you still have collective farms left? We have a farmer for a long time and during the sowing / harvesting they pay quite well
          1. Magic archer
            Magic archer 16 June 2020 20: 39 New
            +2
            Collective farms remained. Rather, a miserable likeness. And where to work in the countryside !? And you look very "smart". And what to do in the winter and when there is no sowing and harvesting !? Paw suck !? My cousin has two of his own and one adopted child. Fed, because the economy is huge. You would not be able to cope with that. And what is vacation and weekend he does not know at all. And how to dress everyone!!? Two years ago there was a plum crop. Do you know what you were selling !? 20 rubles per bucket !!! Because they didn’t take it !!! And if you don’t sell, then throw it away. Or you’ll roll it into cans, but there Marinka is already poor, his wife, such an economy, what the fuck are banks. Therefore, do not be clever here. Take a look
            1. loki565
              loki565 16 June 2020 21: 20 New
              -1
              And you do not shut up my mouth))) In winter there is no work? so Moscow is at hand, there is a lot of people from Kursk, from builders to security guards, even a security guard will bring home 20k in 15 days. Well, maybe there’s a village of 3 houses .. When I came to see my relatives, all the villages in the area were gasified, and many have automatic Baxis boilers, but they are not cheap.
              1. Crimean partisan 1974
                Crimean partisan 1974 17 June 2020 10: 21 New
                +2
                Yes, and many have automatic boilers such as Baxi, ...... yes, what are the boilers there. in villages such "button accordions" from salons stand near yards and not one at a time ... in short, complete poverty. we smear the only black caviar on sausage. but there is no money for bread
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 16 June 2020 21: 35 New
              +2
              Never mind, this is a troll ... he has such a job - to hammer the truth with symbols and slogans.
          2. DVR
            DVR 16 June 2020 22: 20 New
            0
            Do you still have collective farms left? We have a farmer for a long time and during the sowing / harvesting they pay quite well

            Horses plow, apparently in the old fashioned way. Traditionalists, so to speak.
        2. illi
          illi 16 June 2020 20: 36 New
          +2
          There will be no one to gasify the village. What is the average population in a village in Russia now? Twenty yards of them ten summer residents. In most villages, the gas pipeline will not pay off in a hundred years. So don’t wait. Capitalism in the yard.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 16 June 2020 20: 57 New
            -2
            So guys are voting for capitalism?
            So it’s not for this that they did a revolution in 1917 ...
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 16 June 2020 21: 19 New
              +4
              Quote: hydrox
              So it’s not for this that they made a revolution in 1917

              And you can find out why the gasification of all villages was not done in the USSR?
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 16 June 2020 21: 29 New
                -1
                And I will answer you with a question to a question (if you do not mind).
                And when was the Union’s Welfare Program enshrined in the pre-war Constitution buried in the Union?
                Hint: the author was a man who made the Union’s first grain hunger after the development of virgin land — it was our first needle and the first victory of the liberda after the collapse of SovNarKhozov and the elimination of artel labor.
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 16 June 2020 23: 01 New
                  +3
                  Quote: hydrox
                  Hint: the author was the person who arranged the Union’s first bread hunger after the development of virgin land

                  I can add that the collapse of the USSR itself took place under the leadership of the Communist Party. So why does it make a revolution?
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 17 June 2020 06: 04 New
                    0
                    Then again a counter-question: in the name of what did the revolution (or coup!) In the years 91-93?
                    Yes, in order to give Norilsk Nickel to Potanin, to give the Unified Energy System to Chubais, to give to Russian Railways to Yakunin, and to get the Yeltsin family and Aeroflot, and bandits got Pacific fishing - that's why!
                    Or did you think the revolution was for you?
                    1. Alex Justice
                      Alex Justice 17 June 2020 10: 06 New
                      0
                      Then again a counter-question: in the name of what did the revolution (or coup!) In the years 91-93? Yes, in order to give Potanin Norilsk Nickel, Chubais to give the Unified Energy System, Russian Railways to give Yakunin, and Aeroflot to get the Yeltsin family

                      It would not be a bad idea to appoint a commission to investigate how assets were acquired.
                      One, Khodarkovsky has already been exposed and punished. Are the rest furry and honest?
                      In America, it would have been a long time to restore order with crooks.
                      1. hydrox
                        hydrox 17 June 2020 10: 34 New
                        +2
                        There is nothing to be done about it, all legal terms have already passed.
                        There is only revolution and interrogation against the wall :: "Do you agree to return to the people the assets stolen by you in the mid-90s, or do you want to accept the death penalty?"
                        And to see what is more expensive for him, a tile or life? laughing
                      2. Alex Justice
                        Alex Justice 17 June 2020 10: 50 New
                        0
                        Where did you get the money?
                        From the nightstand
                        And who put them there?
                        I put
                        Where did you get them?
                        I said from the nightstand
                  2. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 17 June 2020 19: 58 New
                    0
                    Quote: hydrox
                    Or did you think the revolution was for you?

                    And revolutions always do for themselves.
              2. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 16 June 2020 23: 19 New
                +1
                The economic councils were created in 1957 and liquidated in 1965.
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 17 June 2020 05: 56 New
                  -1
                  It was done right: at first the liberda destroyed the centralized management of the national economy, setting up economic councils for the princes, but then they were also removed when in the 64th the famine broke out and in the canteens they began to give out bread for money: 1 kopeck / piece. gray, 2 kopecks / piece. white., and the whole lunch at the studio. a dining room cost 40-50 kopecks., while lunch in the factory canteens cost 60-80 kopecks. (there were more portions).
                  1. Sergej1972
                    Sergej1972 17 June 2020 07: 17 New
                    +3
                    It was not completely destroyed, because all the same there were branch state committees in the governments of the USSR and republics, a kind of weakened branch ministries. The economic councils were completely dependent on the party leadership.
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 17 June 2020 07: 48 New
                      0
                      So I say that the Economic Councils were the prototype of the "feeding system": further - more.
                  2. Sergej1972
                    Sergej1972 17 June 2020 07: 19 New
                    +3
                    Relatives say that the food supply to the population somehow suspiciously quickly improved after Khrushchev was removed.
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 17 June 2020 07: 37 New
                      +1
                      So not only the Khrushchev flew: they severely thwarted the entire system of the “left” State Planning Commission and strongly taunted the “guild guards” (at that time, they SAVED very childishly for economic crimes).
                      Potanin would probably get a lifelong ...
                    2. Sergej1972
                      Sergej1972 17 June 2020 09: 07 New
                      +1
                      It must be said that Khrushchev also very seriously fought currency traders. There were even death sentences with him for currency speculation.
                    3. hydrox
                      hydrox 17 June 2020 09: 54 New
                      +1
                      It’s easier for Khrushchev: you remember that our financial system was 2-circuit and non-cash money could not be converted into cash in any way - you were punished very strictly for this, you already know about currency transactions ...
              3. hydrox
                hydrox 17 June 2020 10: 38 New
                +1
                Well, you minus the bread, Liberd — there was such a moment in the life of our (NOT YOURS !!!) state!
                We should write us and his story, we will be responsible for him and REPENT, too, that the IVS let you out of the camps without waiting for a natural end.
        3. Poltava
          Poltava 16 June 2020 21: 50 New
          -5
          He worked in the north, there was so much from Ukraine, Moldova and they boasted that they had gas in every farm
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 17 June 2020 05: 44 New
            +2
            And rightly so: if they lived in the areas through which gas was exported, then they were gasified in the first place so that they would not arise.
            And then what to say about the showcase of Soviet life, the Baltic states?
            They were generally given EVERYTHING, and without waiting in line!
          2. Insurgent
            Insurgent 17 June 2020 10: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: Poltava
            He worked in the north, there was so much from Ukraine, Moldova and they boasted that they had gas in every farm

            Are you aware of the joke about the 70-year-old grandfather who came to the doctor about his inability to do some things?
            If you do not know this, then search the network ...

            The point is that if you can’t, then talk about "successes" no one forbids ...
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 17 June 2020 06: 30 New
        +1
        Wow, how a liberde freaks out!
        Minuses and rolls!
        "The triangle will be drunk!
        Be it a parallelepiped,
        If he is a circle, itrena louse! "
    2. DVR
      DVR 16 June 2020 22: 58 New
      +5
      There will be no one to gasify the village. What is the average population in a village in Russia now? Twenty yards of them ten summer residents. In most villages, the gas pipeline will not pay off in a hundred years. So don’t wait. Capitalism in the yard.

      In something you are right. Indeed, the villages are sparsely populated, very scattered strongly. But the work is going in order of priority. First, what is closer and larger is gasified, then more distant points. The design and construction of inter-settlement g / p is funded entirely by Gazprom, the laying of street networks in the regions. Significant money is allocated as far as possible.
      Here are the statistics for Gazprom only (not the latest):

      Plus, other regions have allocated comparable funds.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 17 June 2020 05: 35 New
        -2
        Excuse me, was it built so much or was it stolen so much?
        Something, I see, it doesn’t hurt a lot of working people to get bonnets thrown into the air — and liberde in summer cottages around M-you ... yes, they did it well (well, yes, what can there be a conversation for their own (yes with such- that is money)) !!!
        1. vadimtt
          vadimtt 17 June 2020 08: 52 New
          +2
          How is it good around Moscow? Nifiga, 2 million scars fell off and in 2 years your gas! wassat
          So I drown in diesel fuel, it comes out much cheaper than gas.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 17 June 2020 09: 56 New
            +1
            Well, no one has that kind of money in the villages of the province!
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 17 June 2020 07: 43 New
        -1
        And in rural areas, gas pipelines should not pay off, since this is a BONUS for the rural population for the QUALITY of life that is worse than the urban population.
        The same applies to the water supply with sewerage - this should build the state, and the villagers only have to pay all these services at prices not higher than the city ones.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 17 June 2020 10: 00 New
          +2
          Liberians!
          Please answer, WHY do you think that the villagers SHOULD live in worse conditions than you. Why are you better than them (after all, not even smarter! laughing )?
          Then where does this rush come from with such snobbery towards the villagers?
  3. Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 16 June 2020 20: 52 New
    +4
    Quote: Magic Archer
    you wrote the truth.

    laughing laughing laughing This is how to look. yes
  4. purple
    purple 16 June 2020 21: 10 New
    +4
    Quote: Magic Archer
    I put you a plus. Apparently local minusers are ashamed to admit that you wrote the truth. I have many relatives in the Kursk province. And they started to conduct gas in the villages only in the 2000s. And then, only those who had money. As a result, gasification for all remained only on paper. After all, in addition to supplying gas, you also need a boiler !!! And where do people with sn on a collective farm 10 thousand have such money !? You can minus me too, since the truth hurts my eyes wassat

    well, there’s simply no truth in your words ...
    1. Magic archer
      Magic archer 16 June 2020 21: 25 New
      -10
      In what place did I lie !? At least one argument !!! Or another balabol ??
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 17 June 2020 06: 36 New
        -2
        Do not pay attention: this is another applicant for a place in a cohort of people who want to take a place for food as a party propagandist.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 June 2020 21: 17 New
    +3
    I have a mother in the Yaroslavl region. 150 km from the Mother See. Gas in cylinders.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 16 June 2020 21: 48 New
      -6
      And her gas in cylinders suits?
      Cattle, most likely, NO ...
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 17 June 2020 06: 41 New
        -2
        See?
        Liberda pluses you, but for what?
        And in order not to give the impression that a working person in a village MAY and NEED to lose a day to hit the gas tank for gas, and he would do it easily and with pleasure.
  • Mouse
    Mouse 16 June 2020 20: 24 New
    +2
    It is necessary to congratulate the population of Russia - as there was no gas in the village for 30 years, there will not be another 50 years,

    Looking in need?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 16 June 2020 21: 01 New
      -6
      And you, look, from Landon write, from the board of your own castle ...
      The whole liberd has long been in the queue there ...
  • svp67
    svp67 16 June 2020 20: 28 New
    +6
    Quote: hydrox
    It is necessary to congratulate the population of Russia - as there has been no gas in the village for 30 years, there will not be another 50 years, and not 200 tyr for connection. to take, but ... but in general they won’t take

    So buy cylinders, as they did and do it in the village 30 and 50 years ago. What is the problem?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 16 June 2020 20: 54 New
      +2
      Sergey prYuvet! so they want to live in a village like in a city. Gas for cooking, gas for heating the home, gas for hot water. And the fact that there is more health from the stove, that they no longer understand from the Russian health bath. Forgotten people origins. Bring firewood, chop, melt ... melt the bath ...
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 16 June 2020 21: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: sabakina
        Gas for cooking, gas for heating the home, gas for hot water.

        oh I'm afraid they won’t pay .... then the moaning will begin, which is expensive ... which is better in the old-fashioned way ... coal
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 16 June 2020 21: 17 New
      -8
      Problem?
      Yes, everything is in it ... in the "blue fuel". laughing
      In the people's economic plans, territories, rather than households, are gasified, therefore there is no rural household in the village, because there is no source of energy in the territories, competitive electricity, in order to ensure tolerable rural labor conditions and not only cooperative, but and individual. yes
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 16 June 2020 21: 23 New
      +3
      Commonplace. Refit the cylinder. In the village of mom on the street there are only old people. The driver is lucky and unloads around the house. At the request to help put in place, dismissed, they say there is no time to help everyone. Such a mentality.
      Here mom "rolls" the balloon to the barn, and I, as I get out, change.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 17 June 2020 06: 48 New
        -1
        There is nothing to be done about it :: the old people are now not honored, and it hurts a lot to divorce them, they don’t give, panimash, PFR to plunder a liberde ...
        Well, nicha, the cannibalistic pension law will come into force - that’s how the pence will be reduced in life, they won’t get confused, but whine for a bad life, showing a fig from the hole in the boot with your foot ... laughing
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 18 June 2020 07: 24 New
          +3
          Well, for sure!
          The old Russian liberde is like salt to the wound :: the Liberdians have long considered these pension copecks to be their own, and the FIU gives everything and gives money to pensions ...
          Universal disgrace !! laughing laughing
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 16 June 2020 20: 44 New
    +3
    "" President Vladimir Putin instructed the government and local authorities, together with Gazprom, to ensure the formation of financing sources for connecting Russians to distribution networks without raising their funds, the Kremlin’s website reports. "
    "The gasification of the country should be completed by 2024, and by 2030 it is necessary to set targets on the basis of updating and approval of regional programs."
    By means of tricky mathematical calculations, it will take much less than 50 years ..... And in neighboring countries they will stop using gas soon, the IMF requires raising its value .... Debts are sacred! They must be given back with a percentage of times; climbed into this bondage !!
  • purple
    purple 16 June 2020 21: 03 New
    0
    Quote: hydrox
    It is necessary to congratulate the population of Russia - as there has been no gas in the village for 30 years, there will not be another 50 years, and not 200 tyr for connection. take it, but ... they won’t take it at all, because NO ONE will have such millions of incomes and nobody will be able to pay for the connection !!!

    we have gas, and in the surrounding villages there is ... come on, you lad with a forest ... balabol
    1. Lyuba1965_01
      Lyuba1965_01 17 June 2020 09: 32 New
      +1
      Almost all Smolensk, Tver, Novgorod, Vologda, Yaroslavl, Kostroma, Arkhangelsk, Murmansk regions are not gasified.
      Kovdor, Murmansk region, has no gas in houses, even in high-rise buildings.
      Krasnodar Territory, 12 km. from Anapa, a resort place - there is no gas.
      The city of district significance of Udomlya, Tver Region - there is no centralized gas supply.
      It is promised to be held only in 2034.
      This is only what I myself know for sure.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 18 June 2020 07: 29 New
        +2
        It’s unprofitable for a lousy Liberde that you are voicing data that nullifies the results of her 35-year reign in Russia.
        Especially in the raw materials, which she considers her fiefdom, while the liberda believes that it is from her mouth that they pull out a piece that she has already set out to swallow.
        Only liberda minuses me: people who think and wish Russia good health will not minus the Liberdy “steamboat”, but they will be happy to breathe fresh air.
  • carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 17 June 2020 02: 32 New
    +1
    There are a lot of settlements in which the gas does not make sense to pull. A tenth if not a hundredth of this amount is enough to fill up these villages for 100 years ahead. There is such an expression, economic feasibility.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 17 June 2020 11: 18 New
      0
      Balloon gas is much more expensive than network gas (although the liberda does not understand this, the maintenance of transport, maintenance of the pumping station and charging station, repairmen, and other non-production personnel is a waste of money compared to the pipe that was thrown and forgotten for 50 years ) - so consider liberal expediency!)
      The Ministry of Health of Skvortsov has already implemented such expediency for the last 6 years - they didn’t imprison ... but in vain!
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 17 June 2020 11: 56 New
        0
        Right He took it and threw it. He’s not worth it. It does not need to be serviced. He does not need stations. Kindergarten...
    2. Lyuba1965_01
      Lyuba1965_01 17 June 2020 18: 43 New
      +1
      Economic expediency? But what about people?
      Kovdor, Udomlya - these are cities, not even villages.
      And why should the villages live less comfortably than in the city? Aren't people there?
      Balloon gas is not profitable, because in the villages there are not very many wealthy people, where did they get so much money from?
      Arguing in your opinion, to spit on our people, the main thing is to sell it abroad, and your people will smack it?
      There is no gas in many places where that gas is produced. In your opinion is this normal? Pipes are pulled for hundreds of kilometers, but it is impossible to stretch a pipe for several tens of kilometers?
      And then we wonder why it is in Siberia, on Yamal separatist sentiment?
      I do not condone these people, but I understand them.
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 16 June 2020 21: 12 New
    -4
    Today it became known that Alexey Miller was re-elected to the post of Chairman of the Management Board of Gazprom Neft.

    See the list of who re-elected him. Probably those in the company who get millions of bonuses, despite the fines paid by Gazprom.
  • New
    New Year day 17 June 2020 00: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: ANIMAL
    We expected the news from Ukraine to develop ... and we got another “joy”!

    The end at the crossing does not change, even if these horses are not horses at all laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 20: 00 New
    +9
    For pumping thousands of cubic meters per 100 kilometers, Gazprom has to pay $ 2,5 to Kiev, and for the SP-2 the same amount will cost $ 2,1. Gazprom plans to launch the second Potok right by the end of the contract with Ukraine, that is, in 2020. At the same time, pumping through the territory of Independent Square will be significantly reduced - from 64 billion cubic meters. m (Ukrtransgaz data for 2015) up to 10-15 billion cubic meters. m per year. The route of Russian gas to Europe runs through several Ukrainian gas pipelines. Including the three largest:

    The first of these, the Soyuz, has a length of 2750 km, 1568 km of which pass through Ukraine.
    The second - "Brotherhood" - is the longest. The path from Urengoy to Pomary and from there to Uzhgorod is 4451 km.
    The length of the third of the worthy of separate mention gas pipelines - the Trans-Balkan - is "only" 950 km. It is the Shebelinka – Krivoy Rog – Izmail II route that Gazprom uses to export blue fuel to Turkey and Romania.


    In total, our gas travels 3678 km across Ukraine before reaching European countries
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 16 June 2020 20: 02 New
    +2
    Alexey Miller was re-elected as Chairman of the Management Board of Gazprom Neft.

    Who is re-elected?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 16 June 2020 20: 34 New
      -1
      So after all, whoever needs it, those are re-elected, and by whom exactly - to us, lackeys, this is not supposed to be known, and even more so you can’t even peep (and not just eavesdrop) !!! laughing
    2. illi
      illi 16 June 2020 20: 40 New
      -2
      Who is re-elected?

      Alexey Miller
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 20: 53 New
      +6
      By shareholders. The chairman of the company’s board is elected by the shareholders.
      1. illi
        illi 17 June 2020 06: 06 New
        0
        Well, those who believe in a free market economy let them think that they are shareholders. My version is closer to the truth.
    4. Hagen
      Hagen 16 June 2020 21: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Doccor18
      Who is re-elected?



      Here they are ... And, probably, they have reasons for this.
      1. New
        New Year day 17 June 2020 00: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Hagen
        And, probably, they have reasons for this.

        Of course! Despite the fall in Gazprom's income, bonuses to shareholders are unchanged. Who cuts a chicken laying golden eggs?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 17 June 2020 02: 35 New
          +1
          What kind of bonuses? Income decline is a common situation. Warm winters and more. World prices. By signing a week ago the largest contract in its history, Gazprom will not remain a big minus. There is a reorientation to the domestic market. Which is huge.
        2. Hagen
          Hagen 17 June 2020 05: 53 New
          -2
          Quote: Silvestr
          Despite the fall in Gazprom's income, bonuses to shareholders are unchanged.

          Are you probably a shareholder of Gazprom? Then you know better. But usually such campaigns pay dividends in accordance with the developed provisions and solely from profit. Otherwise, due to the lack of transparency in relation to the market, such companies sharply lose in capitalization. It just seems that they can litter money left and right there, as the cleaning lady tells me. However, from the fact that you consider yourself smarter than everyone, the order of things will not change .... But we must admit that this chicken, even in difficult times, still has golden eggs. That's probably why Miller was re-elected.
    5. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 17 June 2020 02: 33 New
      +2
      Meeting of shareholders of the company.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 20: 03 New
    -4
    So what is the cost of delivering one thousand cubic meters of Russian gas to Europe through Ukraine? We multiply the announced volume of blue fuel by 4,5 (that’s how many dollars cost 100 km of route for our gas) and 3678 km (36,78 hundred km is the total length of Ukrainian pipes) and we get that Gazprom pays $ 165,5.

    It remains to multiply the pumped volumes (49 billion cubic meters) by the cost of pumping a thousand cubic meters. m. It turns out that in the year Gazprom will have to pay Ukrtransgaz about $ 8,1 billion. According to the head of the state corporation Alexey Miller, transportation is at least 30 billion cubic meters. m through Ukraine will bring the company costs "in the amount of 25 to 43 billion dollars over 25 years." That is $ 1,8 billion annually.
    1. Avior
      Avior 16 June 2020 22: 00 New
      -6
      . and at 3678 km (36,78 hundred km - the total length of Ukrainian pipes)

      Yeah. While Russian gas will not pass strictly through all Ukrainian pipes, it does not want to go to the West. And rushing around in Ukraine circles.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 17 June 2020 02: 39 New
      +3
      On average, it is. Given the fact that the price remained the same as it was, and this was stated in Kiev and the fact that pumping has fallen by half, Ukraine, having signed this contract, has lost a similar amount. Let me remind you that prior to its signing in the years 14-15-16, according to all sources, transit was about 80 yards per year.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 June 2020 20: 14 New
    +6
    Hello to the neighbors from Miller. And his face is so kind, kind. laughing
  • Brturin
    Brturin 16 June 2020 20: 18 New
    +7
    Sergei Makogon said that with the help of dismantling, Russia "is going to destroy the very theoretical possibility of transporting gas through the territory of Ukraine."

    Only that it will be dismantled was said in the summer of 2016.
    In the current time period, Gazprom has launched a program to optimize the gas transmission capacities of the central corridor, which involves the elimination of almost 2020 thousand km of single-line gas pipelines by 4,3 and the closure of 62 compressor shops with installed capacity of more than 3 GW. As for transit capacities, which will be in the central corridor towards Ukraine by 2020, after the optimization program, these transit capacities will amount to 10 to 15 billion cubic meters. m of gas per year. Gazprom’s savings on operating costs until 2020 alone will amount to $ 1,6 billion. "
    We adjusted the plans, but why keep too much ... And so we'll see ....
  • Mouse
    Mouse 16 June 2020 20: 22 New
    +9
    I don’t even remember when Krajina announced its non-volatility .... let it eat ....
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 16 June 2020 20: 52 New
      +5
      laughing And what? Gazprom - dreams come true. There will be independent, independent.
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  • fif21
    fif21 16 June 2020 20: 22 New
    +4
    Russian and Russian gas decide how, to whom, and for how much to sell it. Any questions? hi
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 16 June 2020 20: 26 New
      +5
      No questions! hi
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 16 June 2020 20: 28 New
    -10
    Quote: Ugnetenni
    Quote: loki565
    And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))

    The good news, everyone is heading for this! Freebie end ....
    And if we stir up with the Germans, then this will be a new world format and the West is terribly afraid of it.! But shouting hurray early .. Old Merkel needs to be changed for sale!

    In 1939 they were already muddied with the Germans. How did it all end? There is no faith in the Germans.
    1. Lyuba1965_01
      Lyuba1965_01 17 June 2020 10: 03 New
      +1
      There is a dual attitude to this war.
      Yes, cruel, yes, many have perished.
      But we must remember that that war was started not so much by Hitler as by the States and Great Britain
      Well, a kind of revenge for the shameful defeat in the First World War.
      But if the Russian Empire had supported Germany, and not its "allies," it is not known how everything would have turned.
      But then Germany would hardly have lost.
      And we must remember that it was the Germans who played a large role in the development of the Russian Empire.
      what’s interesting to me: the French lived in Russia, but almost none of these Frenchmen deigned to learn the Russian language, and in Russia few of them stayed, well, they didn’t accept Russia.
      Earn money - yes, but to descend to its culture, accept its soul - a bastard, backward country, where it should go to "enlightened" France ...
      And the Germans often coming to us to earn money began to perceive our country as their second Motherland, staying here forever, and the Russian language was good or bad, but they learned and knew.
      About 2 Germans lived in Russia - much more than natives of all other countries, together
      taken.
      In Russia, huge capital of purely Germanic origin was circulating.
      In Russia, in fact, lived a rather big German diaspora.
      But at the same time (which is very surprising) there was no German lobby.
      German diplomats did not make the slightest effort to work in conjunction with their own
      businessmen doing business in Russia.
      And almost no interest in their activities in Russia.
      One of the German consuls general in 1907 wrote: "Official representatives in Russia
      they’re in a very difficult situation, being practically incapable of trying for one or another German applicant. "
      They say that Germany gave money for the Russian revolution.
      Nonsense too!
      Money was given by Great Britain, Sha and France.
      It was these countries that did not betray the leading figures of the revolution when they were hiding in these countries from the tsarist secret police.
      And only Germany has always responded to the requests of the tsarist government for extradition.
      If we take the history of Russian-German relations, then between our countries there were 2 major wars - the First World War, where they were against Germany, and the Second World War.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 20: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Sentry73
    Quote: Ugnetenni
    Quote: loki565
    And this news will be repeated every hour ???)))

    The good news, everyone is heading for this! Freebie end ....
    And if we stir up with the Germans, then this will be a new world format and the West is terribly afraid of it.! But shouting hurray early .. Old Merkel needs to be changed for sale!

    In 1939 they were already muddied with the Germans. How did it all end? There is no faith in the Germans.

    Muddied even earlier laughing He played the Berlin Treaty of April 16, 1922 in Rapallo. This contract was signed by G.V. Chicherin from the RSFSR and V. Rathenau from Germany. The Russian delegation was of interest to a number of other socialist republics, such as: Azerbaijan, Armenia, Belarus, Bukhara, Georgia, Ukraine, Khorezm. The delegation was attended by: L.B. Krasin, M.M. Litvinov, V.V. Thieves, I.E. Rudzutak, A.A. Joffe, H.G. Rakovsky, N.I. Narimanov, B. Mdivani, A. Bekzadyan, A.G. Hatter. laughing
  • Graz
    Graz 16 June 2020 20: 38 New
    -3
    it had to be done even after the construction of the first SP-1
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 20: 42 New
    -3
    and we have gas

    and we have a pipe

    and I have two pipes laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 20: 53 New
    +2
    “This is that Gazprom began to dismantle the pipes on its territory through which gas is delivered to the border with Ukraine - this is a problem, but we cannot particularly affect it”

    I didn’t understand, Gazprom is laying pipes - badly. Gazprom dismantles the pipes - again bad ... laughing Gazprom will put a fence around the pipes ........ Shh ....... with But this is a secret. Gazprom has a routine inspection of pipes. From the inside. wassat
  • Masha
    Masha 16 June 2020 20: 55 New
    -3
    -HAI Russia will sell natural gas at a cheap price. "Applause"
    - we will correct .... In the word HAY you need to change the letter "a" to the letter "y" ... wassat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 21: 09 New
    +3
    Quote: Mouse
    I don’t even remember when Krajina announced its non-volatility .... let it eat ....

    Then Old Man Luka recently blurted out this: “Thank God, there is enough oil in the world - I don’t want to take it. And the prices are reasonable. And there is already enough natural gas, there is a fight for the premium European and our market between the main players supplying natural gas. And there is an alternative, you can find it, ”he said at a meeting with an asset of the Grodno region. laughing
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 16 June 2020 22: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      there is a fight for a premium European

      Fight, of course, only the winner will be decided only at the end, until then .... but for now! In May of this year, gas prices in the USA for the first time since 2008 exceeded quotes at major European hubs (gas sales and distribution centers) . Export of American LNG to Europe has become economically inexpedient ... Low prices and falling demand have forced many oil and gas companies to reconsider LNG projects: ExxonMobil postpones adoption of the FID (final investment decision) on the Rovuma LNG project offshore Mozambique, postponed to a later date Tellurian and Pacific Oil and Gas Drift Wood and Woodfibre projects, the NextDecade Corporation Rio Grande LNG project, whose associated base is associated gas from shale oil, was also endangered. Shell withdrew from Lake Charles LNG in the USA, Sempra Energy will begin the implementation of a major Port Arthur LNG project no earlier than 2021. At the same time, it is highly likely that these projects will never be implemented. https://1prime.ru/energy/20200613/831619582.html
    2. New
      New Year day 17 June 2020 00: 08 New
      -4
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Here Old Man Luka recently blurted out this:

      He didn’t blurt out, but summed up the oil and gas market: prices collapsed due to low demand, Qatar and Salman dumped in Europe. Offers exceed demand and affordable prices. New realities
  • Well
    Well done 16 June 2020 21: 09 New
    +3
    Colleagues, did anyone see this news in the source? I did not find something. Drop the link. drinks
  • purple
    purple 16 June 2020 21: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Magic Archer
    Collective farms remained. Rather, a miserable likeness. And where to work in the countryside !? And you look very "smart". And what to do in the winter and when there is no sowing and harvesting !? Paw suck !? My cousin has two of his own and one adopted child. Fed, because the economy is huge. You would not be able to cope with that. And what is vacation and weekend he does not know at all. And how to dress everyone!!? Two years ago there was a plum crop. Do you know what you were selling !? 20 rubles per bucket !!! Because they didn’t take it !!! And if you don’t sell, then throw it away. Or you’ll roll it into cans, but there Marinka is already poor, his wife, such an economy, what the fuck are banks. Therefore, do not be clever here. Take a look

    less need to thump and everything will be
  • purple
    purple 16 June 2020 21: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: loki565
    Do you still have collective farms left? We have a farmer for a long time and during the sowing / harvesting they pay quite well

    And everywhere ... only drunkards are aching, and lazy people who don’t want to work
    1. notingem
      notingem 16 June 2020 22: 42 New
      0
      There is an employee Balda himself does not know where
  • APASUS
    APASUS 16 June 2020 21: 14 New
    +6
    It’s a paradoxical situation - the countries that hate the Russians most of all, simply rest against the idea that Russian business would not leave them!
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 16 June 2020 22: 21 New
      +1
      Well yes. So they decided to help them with decommunization, and again not so, again dissatisfied.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 17 June 2020 08: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        . So we decided to help them with decommunization,

        The process of decommunization in Ukraine is very complicated, the communists set up a lot there. There are still metallurgy, chemistry, Dneproges, nuclear power plants, and still to be demolished
    2. iouris
      iouris 17 June 2020 11: 56 New
      -1
      Russian business is "sold for the ruble in the morning, bought for three in the evening."
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 June 2020 21: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: purple
    Quote: loki565
    Do you still have collective farms left? We have a farmer for a long time and during the sowing / harvesting they pay quite well

    And everywhere ... only drunkards are aching, and lazy people who don’t want to work

    ss ss! Do not scare. Let them clear the market for Russian agribusiness. The European Commission has developed a plan to eliminate modern agriculture in Europe laughing
  • gridasov
    gridasov 16 June 2020 21: 33 New
    +1
    Definitely, Russian diplomacy very accurately chose the time to push the United States with Europe now. At the same time, Ukraine made it clear. Of course, if they understand that Russia is nearby and real energy resources seemed to be nearby as well. If until this moment Ukraine was between the source and the main consumer of gas, now it has appeared in the backyards. In general, the guys are not rich in intelligence.
  • 123456789
    123456789 16 June 2020 21: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Mouse
    I don’t even remember when Krajina announced its non-volatility .... let it eat ....

    reverse gas. After all, gas is known to come from Western Europe to Ukraine
  • Hitmaster
    Hitmaster 16 June 2020 21: 41 New
    +3
    And what good disappear? Pipes can be used somewhere else, or even melted down to something more useful (into the same new pipes) ... But it seems to me that Ukrainians will hand over the pipes for the second time - the situation in Ukraine has this.
  • Avior
    Avior 16 June 2020 21: 51 New
    -14
    . the problem for Ukraine here is not at all in Russia, but in the European position. This position is such that it is the EU that does not want to buy Russian gas on the Ukrainian border,

    As they say in Odessa, Schaub b, I lived as you sit and lie
    The issue was discussed a hundred times and many years.
    Everything except Gazprom, for the sale of gas on the Ukrainian border, is a well-known fact.




    . The European Union is ready to buy Russian gas on the border of Russia and Ukraine. This was announced on Thursday by the press secretary of the European Commissioner for Energy, Gunther Oettinger Sabin Bergegg. At the moment, European consumers are buying Gazprom products on the western border of Ukraine, but back in April, the head of the Ukrainian Naftogaz Andrey Kobolev suggested that the European Commission and European companies begin negotiations with Gazprom regarding a change in the supply point.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 16 June 2020 22: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: Avior
      The European Union is ready to buy Russian gas on the border of Russia and Ukraine. This was announced on Thursday by the press secretary of the European Commissioner for Energy, Gunther Oettinger Sabin Bergegg.

      But then, back in 2014, she added - “Changing the delivery point for gas to eastern Ukraine by European companies is a commercial matter. Therefore, the companies themselves should discuss this.” They are of course the EU official, but the companies themselves somehow still ....
      1. Avior
        Avior 17 June 2020 04: 09 New
        -11
        That is, Europe does not refuse to buy gas on the border with Ukraine, as they wrote in the article.
        It is clear that this requires the consent of three parties.
        And what about the two remaining?
        .
        MOSCOW, September 27. / TASS /. The proposal of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko to sell gas from Russia to Europe in eastern Ukraine is inappropriate. This was announced by the head of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak in an interview with the Austrian newspaper Die Presse.

        And for a long time against?
        And since 2009.
        . Gazprom, the Russian gas monopoly, is not considering selling gas to Europe on the Ukrainian-Russian border. This was stated by the representative of Gazprom Sergey Kupriyanov. ....
        Ambassador of Ukraine to the EU Andrei Veselovsky said that Ukraine proposed to Europe to consider the possibility of switching to the purchase of gas on the Russian-Ukrainian border.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 17 June 2020 12: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          It is clear that this requires the consent of three parties.

          There are many more parties. I repeat -
          Because it should be discussed by the companies themselves
          . Gazprom has contracts not with the EU but with specific European companies, can you name the companies that have expressed a desire to buy gas on the eastern border?
          1. Avior
            Avior 17 June 2020 12: 47 New
            -3
            In the EU, gas supplies are regulated by directive.
            And transit issues through Ukraine are resolved precisely trilaterally, and not with each company separately.
            On December 20, representatives of the European Commission, Ukraine and Russia reached a final agreement on principled positions on the transit of Russian gas through the territory of Ukraine and the settlement of mutual claims.

            But how can one buy what is not?
            If Gazprom does not fundamentally sell gas on the border with Ukraine, where will the concrete companies ready to buy it come from?
            First there must be a fundamental decision.
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 17 June 2020 13: 31 New
              +1
              Quote: Avior
              And transit issues through Ukraine are resolved precisely trilaterally, and not with each company separately.

              Gazprom has a specific transit contract with Ukraine, he handed it gas at point A, and accepted it at point B, the EU was an intermediary .... Once again, an EU official declares -
              This is a commercial business. Because it should be discussed by the companies themselves
              , the question is - are there companies that were ready to change the contract and transfer the point of reception to the eastern border and ready to conclude a contract with Ukraine for transit (gas was delivered and the problem of tariffs is up to the buyer) ???
              In the EU, gas supplies are regulated by directive.
              if there was such a directive, then we would not have to refer to the “commercial business” and perhaps there would have been no questions about SP-2 - hand over gas on the Russian border to Europeans and all problems have been removed, and with the cost of transit through the Poles, gas has been delivered to the border and let the Germans and the Poles bargain over the transit tariff .. Only it seems that European companies want to receive gas at the final point, and offer transit risks to others ...
              1. Avior
                Avior 17 June 2020 13: 54 New
                -3
                the question is - there are companies that were ready to change the contract and move the point of reception to the eastern border

                no, of course, since the seller is obviously against it, and everyone knows this, and there are no other sellers in principle. What can be buyers for non-existent goods? What and with whom will they change?
                in the article, no companies are discussed
                it is the EU that does not want to buy Russian gas on the Ukrainian border
  • health
    health 16 June 2020 22: 05 New
    0
    2014-2020 - Six years have passed. from this one should also make a powerful pr-action. and so late in everything, unfortunately.
  • demo
    demo 16 June 2020 22: 11 New
    0
    Experts comment Ukrainian statement about the start of the dismantling of gas pipes ....
    This seems to be a key phrase.
    Nobody saw our (Gazprom) statement.
    Maybe this is a test ball (performed by Ukrainians) to familiarize themselves with the reaction of "worldly and very progressive humanity."
    And more.
    And "suddenly they forgot about us again" ?!
    Child it is! Without a tit, mom (or dad) can’t do anything.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 16 June 2020 22: 16 New
    -2
    Wait a minute ... So if the transit is over, do you want to gas the gas? You will have to pay for the reverse!
  • Charik
    Charik 16 June 2020 22: 24 New
    -2
    I certainly understand that many here FOR such a move, but they threatened for a long time, that’s it, but I’ll joke, I’ll probably give the pipes to Chermet something more and a half yard $ to give, for which I don’t know
  • iouris
    iouris 16 June 2020 23: 07 New
    -3
    Gazprom will not cut pipes. This is out of the question. And pick from the bottom, too. This is an asset. And what about Gazprom and Turkey?
    1. Charik
      Charik 16 June 2020 23: 10 New
      -2
      + there like the Turks should-a hundred pounds will not give
      1. iouris
        iouris 16 June 2020 23: 14 New
        -6
        Gazprom finances Turkey’s operation in Libya. This case. And what is the name of the head?
    2. Gennady Fomkin
      Gennady Fomkin 17 June 2020 02: 57 New
      +2
      This is the Turks, not Lukashenko, then all the rules. Isn't Gazprom looking for a problem? laughing
  • agoran
    agoran 16 June 2020 23: 18 New
    +1
    I have no relation to Gazprom, I can only assume that the volume of gas pumped through 404 will be reduced, it makes no sense to maintain and maintain part of the gas transportation system.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 June 2020 00: 44 New
      -3
      And in the future you will not have a relationship with Gazprom (I will not have it either). But Ukraine (?) Will come back (even with a carcass, even with a scarecrow). Otherwise, only pipes will remain in place of the BSSSR.
  • ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 16 June 2020 23: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: antivirus
    GDP brought the Russian Federation to the point of no return - pipes are cut into a new aircraft carrier of 70 tons of explosives. the sailors got their way, from the couch they won .....
    or gas or an aircraft carrier ...


    Have you drunk it? fool
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 17 June 2020 03: 45 New
    -1
    - "Today it became known that Alexey Miller was re-elected to the post of chairman of the board of Gazprom Neft - who would doubt it !!! All the riches of Russia are in the hands of the Jewish mafia ..
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 17 June 2020 10: 25 New
      +2
      Then the German mafia. Miller is a German from St. Petersburg.
  • Boris Afinogenov
    Boris Afinogenov 17 June 2020 05: 46 New
    0
    Whose gas? Russian.
    Whose pipe? Russian.
    Whose new pipe? Russian-German.


    And here is the outskirts?

    Nobody forces to dismantle a pipe in their territory.
    Yes, Russia must fulfill the contract, and - while the transit state of U (d).

    I do not understand this nagging "I want, I do not want" in Kiev. Show your pride - do not trade with the adversary.
  • Dave36
    Dave36 17 June 2020 08: 33 New
    -3
    Miller needs to be planted at least-for the attitude of Gazprom inside the country ....
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 17 June 2020 10: 27 New
      +2
      What's the relationship? Over the past 30 years, gasified more than a scoop, for the entire time of its existence.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 18 June 2020 19: 55 New
        0
        You tell these tales to first-graders. And do not call my country some obscene word.
  • mikula
    mikula 17 June 2020 09: 28 New
    0
    I don’t know how the dismantling of pipes is, but the dismantling of relations between two "brotherly" or "one" people is in full swing! Who benefits from this, I no longer understand. But this someone very accurately calculated everything.
  • NF68
    NF68 17 June 2020 16: 04 New
    0
    It is hard to find a black cat in a dark room. Especially if you know that there was no black cat in this room before and no now.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 17 June 2020 19: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: antivirus
    GDP brought the Russian Federation to the point of no return - pipes are cut into a new aircraft carrier of 70 tons of explosives. the sailors got their way, from the couch they won .....
    or gas or an aircraft carrier ...

    Well, smart. It is not for nothing that ukrozhopov are doing the same. Because there is not one whip, and perhaps not the most stupid one.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 17 June 2020 19: 39 New
    0
    Quote: mikula
    I don’t know how the dismantling of pipes is, but the dismantling of relations between two "brotherly" or "one" people is in full swing! Who benefits from this, I no longer understand. But this someone very accurately calculated everything.

    Archive of the Ukrainian nationalist foreign newspaper "Freedom" http://www.svoboda-news.com/arxiv.htm
    They never contacted Russia. Although, the first issues were printed in Russian and spoke about themselves. how about Russians. Pesya nation, completely mazepa.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 17 June 2020 19: 42 New
    0
    Quote: iouris
    Gazprom will not cut pipes. This is out of the question. And pick from the bottom, too. This is an asset. And what about Gazprom and Turkey?

    And why? It will, if in fact, no longer cuts. Removing a gas pipeline that is no longer working, say, in the direction of Poland, or the Baltic states is a good whip for those who doubt the need to lay new pipelines. Let them move their ears. They can remain in third roles, recipients from the fifth transit hands, with, naturally, a fancy price.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 17 June 2020 19: 51 New
    0
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    What's the relationship? Over the past 30 years, gasified more than a scoop, for the entire time of its existence.

    People do not understand the reasons. And the reason is the simplest. In the USSR, a cubic meter of gas cost 4 kopecks. What the hell would someone drag a pipe to Krasnoyarsk, it seems, if a pipe with such a price doesn’t pay off in 5000 years? Of course, she was dragged to Europe, where the price has never been less than $ 7.
    Now, due to the fact that prices A little BEGINNING to be aligned with exports, it became profitable to gasify the cities of Russia. If you imagine that the price will be equal with Germany, then all the gas will be left here, and only what is left is there. The gas worker, after all, will not care who he serves, he will get his money. Moreover, he will become a patriot, since Russia, gasified, clean, healthy, fed, works at Gazprom stations with pleasure and gives them even greater profits. The question is, how to buy such expensive gas in the Russian outback? The answer is that the salary should be the same as in Germany.

  • demo
    demo 18 June 2020 11: 07 New
    0
    Meanwhile, if you carefully read all the interviews of Makogon, we can conclude that the Ukrainian side does not have any fundamental claims regarding gas transit to Gazprom at the moment. Moreover, it seems that after a new transit contract was concluded at the very end of last year, absolutely normal professional relations were maintained between Russian and Ukrainian gas companies.

    “We have employees who are constantly on the territory of the Russian Federation at border gas measuring stations. They look at the counters and sign acts daily. This is standard practice. Therefore, we have no questions, problems and doubts about the accuracy of measurements. Every 15 minutes we get information about the gas entry into the system. Also, every day we report to Gazprom and sign acts. Every cubic meter is taken into account, ”said Sergey Makogon. So he answered the question of whether Gazprom has any reason to accuse Ukraine of stealing gas destined for Europe.

    It is unlikely that the operator of the Ukrainian GTS will have financial reasons for dissatisfaction with the current situation. According to Sergey Makogon, for five months the operator received 25 billion hryvnias (a little less than a billion dollars at the current rate) from Naftogaz Ukrainy, which receives money for gas transit. There are currently no delays in payments.

    Obviously, the last remark in an interview with Sergey Makogon was designed to remind Ukrainian readers that, despite the new long-term contract for Ukrainian transit, Russia still has plans to abandon this route and is doing everything possible to terminate it in the future. But from the Russian side the situation looks completely different.

    In Soviet times, says Igor Yushkov, a leading analyst at the National Energy Security Fund, an expert at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation, a lot of gas pipelines were built in the Ukrainian direction. Initially, the total capacity of pipelines at the entrance to the Ukrainian gas transportation system exceeded 200 billion cubic meters of gas, and about 180 billion at the exit.
    “Naturally, Gazprom will never pump such a volume. For this year, the transit contract is 65 billion cubic meters, and then another four years at 40 billion cubic meters per year - this is Gazprom and takes apart unnecessary pipes. Naturally, they will not disassemble all gas pipelines, since the contract must be fulfilled for more than four years, and then the Ukrainian direction may still be useful. But nobody will support the work of suitable gas pipelines by more than 60-70 billion cubic meters of gas, as it is expensive, ”says Yushkov.

    A similar position is maintained in Gazprom. According to Sergei Pravosudov, director of the Institute of National Energy and chief editor of Gazprom’s corporate magazine, the Russian newspaper PolitExpert informed that pipe dismantling is explained by a strong reduction in deliveries through Ukraine, which previously accounted for about 90% of all gas transportation to Europe.

    Yes, old pipes are dismantled. But not just all the pipes, but simply those that are not currently in demand for transit, the oldest sections. This is what we are talking about, ”said Pravosudov.

    Moreover, Gazprom has been publicly talking about these plans for at least four years. In June 2016, during the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, the head of the Russian company, Alexey Miller, said that in connection with the development of alternative gas corridors, Gazprom intends to eliminate about 4,3 thousand kilometers of gas pipelines in the Central Corridor of the GTS in the next five years, as well as close 62 compressor shops . Further, until 2030, it was planned to dismantle 10,7 thousand kilometers of pipes.

    As follows from Miller's presentation, it was primarily a question of reducing the capacity of the gas pipeline connecting the Russian Yamburgskoye field with the village of Suja in the Kursk region, through which about 70% of Russian gas is pumped in the Ukrainian direction. After reducing the capacity, the pumping volume was supposed to decrease to 10-15 billion cubic meters of gas per year.
    https://vz.ru/economy/2020/6/17/1045454.html
  • Skai
    Skai 18 June 2020 13: 02 New
    -1
    and Miller has such a physiognomy as if he had already personally handed over these pipes to ferrous metal and didn’t share it with anyone.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 18 June 2020 13: 09 New
    -1
    Quote: antivirus
    GDP brought the Russian Federation to the point of no return - pipes are cut into a new aircraft carrier of 70 tons of explosives. the sailors got their way, from the couch they won .....
    or gas or an aircraft carrier ...

    What brains can an antivirus have? He, in fact, is built in the same way. like his antipode. The main thing for him is to multiply. And no matter what shit.
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 18 June 2020 13: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: SkАй
    and Miller has such a physiognomy as if he had already personally handed over these pipes to ferrous metal and didn’t share it with anyone.

    Let's look at yours. Do not hide, felon.
    1. Skai
      Skai 19 June 2020 19: 02 New
      0
      Why are you, uncle, ready to call every person unknown to you? has the doctor been checked for a long time? patron sled rye with a salary of 2 lemons per day found. Come and unfasten you? ask more next time for a two-week course from a psychiatrist
  • doubovitski
    doubovitski 18 June 2020 13: 16 New
    -1
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Then the German mafia. Miller is a German from St. Petersburg.

    Your last name does not guarantee that you are a Russian patriot. In history there were SUCH Russian bastards ....
  • gromoboj
    gromoboj 18 June 2020 13: 26 New
    0
    Window dressing, caught up with technicians and people instead of just shutting off the valve.