Military political scientist on the example of Marxism spoke about the actions of Turkey in Libya

The Government of Libyan National Accord makes it clear that it is ready to act in line with the Turkish political agenda. Today, the Turkish military contingent, as they say, settles firmly in Libya. From Turkey organized "caravan" deliveries (by sea and by air) not only of military equipment and weapons, but also of militants (for example, from Syrian Idlib).

What is Ankara’s goal in entering into the Libyan armed conflict?

There are several goals. Firstly, the creation of military bases on the Mediterranean coast. Already now there is evidence that Turkey is creating one of these bases in Misrata. Secondly, it is gaining access to the Libyan hydrocarbon deposits, both on the Mediterranean shelf and in the south of the country.

Today, the confrontation with the forces of Marshal Haftar does not allow full control of oil fields and pipelines. But if this issue is resolved for Turkey, and the Libyan National Army is suddenly defeated, at least in the west and south of Libya, then Ankara has a special perspective. This prospect consists in gaining control not only over Libyan oil itself, but also over its export to Europe. It is Turkey that will be able to control the huge volumes of cheap Libyan oil, which may ultimately lead to a new crisis in the black gold market.

The candidate for political sciences, a member of the expert council of the Russian Officers organization, and lieutenant colonel Alexander Perendzhiev, commented on the situation on this issue specifically for Military Review.

According to the expert, after the overthrow and murder of Gaddafi, France, the USA and Great Britain gained access to Libyan oil. Turkey intended to gain access to hydrocarbons in Syria. But there are a number of problems in the SAR for Ankara: these are Kurds supported by the Americans, whom they use in oil fields primarily in their own interests. Another problem: Russia's position, which is the need to transfer the bowels of Syria to the legal authorities of this country.

Member of the Association of Military Political Scientists Alexander Perendzhiev:

And then Turkey in Libya decided to support the government of national accord, which is recognized by the UN. Despite the fact that the PNS is not an expression of the interests of the entire Libyan people, Turkey uses its “international” legitimacy to have access to the same oil. The fact is that PNS initially works for an “external customer”. Today, such a "customer" and "manager" is Turkey. If Turkey takes control of the situation, then problems will arise for France and its companies. That is why serious disagreements arose between Paris and Ankara.

Further, Alexander Perendzhiev, using Marxist theses, explains the essence of what is happening in Libya:

If we recall the classics of Marxism-Leninism, that is, the thesis that the capitalists are already starting to share the seized resources among themselves when there are no free resources. Turkey believes that if you can rob Libya, France, then why not do the same to her. It is clear that no one thinks about the interests of the Libyan people in such a situation.

Comments

[Pereira]

Without mention of Marxism-Leninism in any way?
Recently, the same analyst, talking about the pogroms in the USA, managed to draw pre-revolutionary Russia to this matter.
How does these analysts writhe from all Russian!
Cleaner than devils from holy water.

[carnifexx]

I will not recommend Douglas North or Luigi Zingales (yes reaction, capital servants, proletariat infant eaters), but at least tell the expert about the Wallerstein world system (neo-Marxism).

[really]

It will be very difficult, you bring it to three sources, and then everything is very complicated

[Uncle lee]

Serious disagreements arose between Paris and Ankara.

[novel66]

between Paris and Ankara - many thousand kilometers!

[Uncle lee]

The distance doesn't matter when it smells of oil!

[WOLF330]

Quote Perendzhieva)) And France is ready to answer Rwanda, Algeria, Libya for their deeds. Do the French generally know that they are despised in Africa?

[rotmistr60]

Turkey believes that if you can rob Libya, France, then why not do the same to her.

It remains to wait for a showdown between two international racketeers for a "cow" being milked. It would be interesting.

[Lannan Shi]

Turkey intended to gain access to hydrocarbons in Syria. But there are a number of problems in the SAR for Ankara: these are Kurds supported by the Americans, whom they use in oil fields primarily in their own interests. Another problem: Russia's position, which is the need to transfer the bowels of Syria to the legal authorities of this country.

Yeah. Expert says it means. And the expert is aware that the production of the same oil in Syria by 2010 fell to 300-320 thousand barrels? Those. actually to the level of needs of that same Syria? And not because the evil fighters interfered, but because how stupidly ends? All proven reserves of Syria - 2.5 billion barrels. Given the fact that the most advanced technologies do not give an extractability of more than 55%, 1,2-1,3 billion barrels of recoverable oil. Well, or for 10-12 years at the current rate of production. Or about $ 50 billion dirty, not including production / transportation costs. And God forbid 30. That’s real, 30 yards of bucks arrived in 10-15 years, and to unleash for the sake of this war? Yes, the profit does not pay back the costs. Experts damn ....

[KCA]

There is also gas and pumping it for free, and not paying for it to the same Gazprom, Turkey is very good

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: KCA

There is also gas and pumping it for free, and not paying for it to the same Gazprom, Turkey is very good

Gas production in Syria in the prewar year - 7 billion cubic meters. A little more than an absolute zero for a state of scale of Turkey. These are old deposits. And these 7 billion are eaten by Syria itself. Even there is no infrastructure for export. You will carry gas in buckets.
Here are the new ones a bit more voluminous. 2 trillion cubic meters approximately. But, there is one but. New deposits - northeast of Syria. Remind me who lives there? Entrance to the territory of Turkey will be in the southeast. And there they are again. Evil Kurds. Yeah. But to develop oil and gas production, and to pull oil and gas pipelines through the territory covered by the partisan war? An extravagant decision. Or do you suppose that for the sake of gas, whose stocks of yards per 100 dollars are clean (by the way, not so much, a little more than half of the revenue of Turkey’s budget for one year), Erdogan will launch a war with the Kurds? To complete destruction? Unreal. 1. Do not understand. Generally. None. 2. This entertainment will cost several times more expensive than all Syrian oil and gas reserves.
Turkey’s oil and gas interests in Syria may be subject to one condition. That Erdogan personally, through evil sorcery, will extract oil and gas, and deliver it to his territory in his own pockets. By the way, a very realistic option. The rest, against its background, are much more fantastic.

[Oleg Zorin_3]

Well, by God, it’s impossible! A man watches TV, scoops his ... I don’t know what to call it. And here you come and with numbers destroy the existing picture of the world

[Igor Polovodov]

Especially an attack on evil witchcraft ....

[credo]

Something from the current Libyan history echoes the history of Russia of the 20s of the last century - while there was a civil war between Russians, everyone was robbed of everything from the USA, England, Japan to the Czech Republic with Estonia and they didn’t give a damn about the natives.

[A. Privalov]

The classics of Marxism-Leninism wrote a great deal about capitalists. And it was all true. They saw these very capitalists with their own eyes, could analyze their actions and state their conclusions on paper, and sometimes it is quite understandable in an accessible language. When it came to socialism, I had to fantasize, because in the days of these very classics, no socialism existed at all.

I understand what the venerable political scientist wanted to say, but it seems that he made a small report with theses. The classics, I remember, have theses on the sections and sections of the captured sales markets, and not on the captured resources. Although, I could be wrong. The last time I studied these same classics 40 (forty!) Years ago ...

[novel66]

I don’t think you forgot about 300% of the profit

[A. Privalov]

Capital is afraid of lack of profit or profit too small, just as nature is afraid of emptiness. But once sufficient profit is available, capital becomes bold. Provide 10%, and the capital agrees to any use, at 20% it becomes lively, at 50% it is positively ready to break its head, at 100% it violates all human laws, at 300% there is no crime that it would not risk, at least under pain of the gallows.

1799th-century English publicist Thomas Joseph Dunning (1873–XNUMX)

However, nowadays 300% of the profit is already babble. I heard that in Moscow today it is completely legal, without looking at the gallows, to give loans at 700% per annum. Or maybe they are lying?

[novel66]

I heard three ends .... though, microloans are gloomy gloom

[Pereira]

Home Credit and abruptly takes. Up to one and a half thousand.

[To be or not to be]

The most important result of the global economic crisis is the exposure and aggravation of the contradictions inherent in world capitalism.
a) The contradictions between the most important imperialist countries, the struggle for sales markets, the struggle for raw materials, the struggle for the export of capital are exposed and aggravated. Now, none of the capitalist states is no longer satisfied with the old distribution of spheres of influence and colonies. They see that the balance of power has changed and that it is necessary to redistribute the sales markets, sources of raw materials, spheres of influence, etc.
POLITICAL REPORT OF THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE
XVI CONGRESS OF THE CPSU (B.)
27 1930 June

[Pereira]

It was like that. Here are just sections of the captured markets did not come up with Marx.
Perhaps the author thinks that it was Marx who invented capitalism and Capital in his work.

[To be or not to be]

It’s excusable for a pirate not to know Marxism ..
This was said by IV Stalin in his report to the congress in 1936. And before him VI Lenin in his work "Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism
(popular essay) "Written in January - June 1916.
And here Zyuganov his 5 kopecks .. completely fresh ..
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[Pereira]

Thanks so much for clarifying.
Now I know it myself, and I will tell others that capitalism and redistribution of markets was invented by Lenin in 1916.
By the way, was this before he lived in a hut in Shushensky or after?

[To be or not to be]

Great question about the hut in Shushinsky ...
BUT. "1916

At the end of January, Lenin and Krupskaya moved from Bern to Zurich, where they joined the Zurich section of the Bolsheviks and joined the work of the Zurich “workers' self-education circle”.
In July-August, the couple moved to the mountain town of Flums (near Zurich, the canton of St. Gallen) due to the need for treatment of Nadezhda Konstantinovna. In September, Lenin returned to Zurich, participated in the meeting of the German left social democrats. "
“From 1905 until April 1917, Lenin spent about 199 days in Russia ...”

[parusnik]

Neither the PNS, nor the LNA think about the people ... The PNS "hates" that their country would be robbed by one, the LNA wants their country to be robbed by others ...

[Oleg Zorin_3]

This is not surprising. Both those and others are non-subject and cannot exist without the help of "sponsors". It is naive to believe that the "sponsors" are interested in the development of Libya.

[Oquzyurd]

The French produced and "bought" Libyan oil for 0,72 (fantastic, but it was) dollars per barrel. That is, a natural robbery, not otherwise. They say that under a recent oil production contract between Turkey and the PNS, the Turks offered Libya 70% of the profits from the oil produced. And therefore the French oil company Total bought and acquired 6 military helicopters (unknown seller) and presented Khavtaru.Vampirov to deprive free blood-oil, they go to great lengths to continue the freebie.

[Undecim]

Both the author and the expert generally have a vague idea of ​​the question on which they are going to "expert."
But if this issue is resolved for Turkey, and the Libyan National Army is suddenly defeated, at least in the west and south of Libya, then Ankara has a special perspective. This prospect consists in gaining control not only over Libyan oil itself, but also over its export to Europe. It is Turkey that will be able to control the huge volumes of cheap Libyan oil, which may ultimately lead to a new crisis in the black gold market.

There is no oil in the south of Libya, the main deposits are in the north-east of the country, because Turkey will not get any control over Libyan oil, controlling the west and south of the country.
According to the expert, after the overthrow and murder of Gaddafi, France, the USA and Great Britain gained access to Libyan oil.
For expert information, the leading companies operating Libyan oil: ENI, Total, Schlumberger, Rosneft.
ENI - Italians, Total - French, Rosneft - apparently - Russia. Schlumberger is generally difficult to attribute to a specific country, but it is neither the United States nor Britain. Here they are, the robbers of Libya. Therefore, the expert’s maxims are far from reality.

[Oquzyurd]

The Turks with Gaddafi had an agreement on the implementation of infrastructure and construction works at 25 mln. dollars. After the assassination of Gaddafi, everything was frozen. Now, the PNS gave the green light to these works. In addition, the Turks receive at least three military bases (the Land Base in Tripoli, the Navy base in Misrata, the Air Force base in Al-Vatiya) and logistics centers on the territory Libya. The Turks themselves say that Libya, as in the past, is the gate for the Turks to Africa, in terms of business and influence. Oil and gas are also important for the Turks, but it is more important for them to gain a foothold in Libya, for further business moving deeper into Africa .

[Junior Private]

Quote: Lannan Shi

That's real, 30 yards of bucks arrived, in 10-15 years, and to unleash for the sake of this war? Yes, the profit does not pay back the costs. Experts damn ....

The point here is not so much in the money that can be printed as in the geopolitical component of the polymer region itself, controlling (conditional uncontrolled also control) which allows you to adjust world prices for the same oil. Plus MIC works. The main thing is that Turkey harnessed this mess (personally, I think this is a political mistake), Egypt tensed, and the United States pretended that they had nothing to do with it. When the war ends it is not known, but this whole division of the inheritance of the Jamahiriya costs much more than 30 yards.

[Junior Private]

Quote: A. Privalov

The classics of Marxism-Leninism wrote a great deal about capitalists. And it was all true.
...
The last time I studied these same classics 40 (forty!) Years ago ...

In all ancient economic and political theories, today's realities should be amended. Comrade Marx did not know anything about the Fed, and virtual derivatives are already a modern fashion.

[Alexey from Perm]

The principles of Marxism can and should be applied to understand what is happening not only to Libya, but also to Russia. Learn Marxism comrades, it gives an understanding of many processes.

[Oleg Zorin_3]

Turkey intended to gain access to hydrocarbons in Syria.

The Syrian oil reserves are far from Eldorado. Even before the war, production was barely enough to cover their own needs. Turkey's main interests lie in a different, anti-Kurdish plane.

Turkey uses its “international” legitimacy

You can not quote, the Government of National Unity is internationally recognized, including Russia. The parliament in Tobruk is also legally elected and legitimate. Such a conflict.

capitalists are already starting to share the seized resources when there are no free resources.

Now, of course, this resource (oil) is even more than necessary. However, having cheap oil at your disposal and controlling Turkey’s energy delivery routes to Europe is beneficial. There is also an opportunity to bring down the price, which is clearly not to the advantage of the opponents of Turkey from the oil monarchies of the Gulf.
Such a political economy without any Marxism

[iouris]

Turks create a superpower, and France what? However, there and there are problems with the Arab world.

[Angrybeard]

The Arabs played in interfaith graters during the time of fat oil, bending down the hated Shiites, and blinked fruit of a much larger caliber, neo-Ottomans. And they cannot solve this issue with money. Actually, there is no way to decide. For fighters are mediocre, if not in jihad with fanatics.
Russia, as I understand it, the pro-Ottoman West of Libya is not very worried, not American, and okay, but the east will probably remain about the Egyptian with tinted sides of "it is not clear whose" moments in the hangars.