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More and more cities in Russia are forced to endure a military parade

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More and more cities in Russia are forced to endure a military parade

The authorities of an increasing number of large Russian cities declare their unwillingness to hold military parades on June 24. Recall that it was on this day that President Vladimir Putin scheduled a parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War, the same day in Russia declared non-working. Moscow considered that the situation with the pandemic allows such a parade to be held, but at the same time emphasized the fact that in the regions the decision should be made by representatives of local authorities - on the situation with incidence.


On June 24, authorities of several Russian cities refused to hold the parades. It became known that the leaders of Kursk, Belgorod, Yakutsk, Pskov, Orel, Nizhny Tagil, Saransk, Yaroslavl, Penza, Vologda, Chelyabinsk, Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Perm wished to postpone the date.

Local administrations believe that holding mass events on June 24 is dangerous from an epidemiological point of view. In a number of Russian regions, the authorities decided to extend the so-called self-isolation regime. However, a strange thing arises in this situation: if mass events carry risks on June 24, then how do regional authorities plan to resolve the issue of voting on constitutional amendments scheduled for July 1?

Earlier, the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation stated that the vote would be held from an organizational point of view so that "a large number of citizens did not accumulate in the polls."
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 16 June 2020 06: 47
    11
    We ourselves, even those nonsense ... but quite a lot of people take quarantine seriously ...
    There is no answer how it should be better. It is clear that the disease has not disappeared, but people are tired and at the household level about compliance with quarantine measures have already begun to hammer on them a lot and specifically request
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 16 June 2020 06: 55
      15
      Quote: rocket757
      but quite a lot of people take quarantine quite seriously ....

      It is enough that on June 9, my beloved satirist TRUSHKIN Anatoly Alekseevich died from complications after being infected with coronavirus.
      In Novosibirsk, she is in a hospital (according to her mother who called her) and she feels very badly cousin (non-falling temperature) ...
      It’s not worth brushing off the problem of coronavirus just like that.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 01
        +3
        Not many people got sick, but if it is possible not to increase the number of cases, she should take advantage.
        Those who are in a hurry, especially with regard to others, at this moment in time do not look ah and they should remember this!
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 16 June 2020 08: 00
          24
          . The authorities of an increasing number of large Russian cities declare their unwillingness to hold military parades on June 24.

          And who needs it after May 9?

          This action becomes meaningless if carried out in isolation from a great date.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 16 June 2020 08: 31
            -30 qualifying.
            Quote: Stas157
            And who needs it after May 9?

            I need.

            The parade is a common memory of those who died in that war, our victory and a reminder to the West of what happens to them when they climb to us without an invitation. This is a demonstration of our strength, which is important in foreign policy. This is youth education, so that we would not have kolizurengoy. June 24th is the connection of time with that victory parade of 1945.

            I think that not in all cities that refused to hold military parade, the cause is an epidemic situation. Surely some people argue the same way you do - why should the West frighten and remind him of their defeats, he’s so nice, white fluffy - the same evil Stalin attacked them ... and we are using his new weapon ... not good . So what?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 16 June 2020 08: 49
              15
              Quote: Boris55
              I need.

              That's great, Boris! Go and march on the square on June 24th. Give yourself and others pleasure!
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 16 June 2020 08: 52
                -14 qualifying.
                Quote: Stas157
                Go and march on the square on June 24

                It goes about military parade. The civil unit, the passage of the immortal regiment, will not be. Do not disturb flies with cutlets.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 16 June 2020 09: 04
                  +6
                  Quote: Boris55
                  It's about a military parade.

                  So it's even better! Buy camouflage, a machine gun in the Children's World ... and go to the square. Surprise everyone!
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 16 June 2020 09: 10
                    -2
                    Quote: Stas157
                    So it's even better! Buy camouflage, a machine gun in the Children's World ... and go to the square. Surprise everyone!

                    Did you demonstrate your level of intelligence now? laughing
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 16 June 2020 09: 22
                      -2
                      No.)) Yours.
            2. Rzzz
              Rzzz 16 June 2020 09: 13
              17
              Quote: Boris55
              The parade is a common memory of those who died in that war, our victory and a reminder to the West of what happens to them when they climb to us without an invitation.


              And the memory is already almost gone. For 80% of the population, the parade is a free show with dancers. The deceased are also remembered somehow no longer "for real", because there are almost no people left to whom the deceased were close.
              About the mythical "west" - well, it's not at all serious.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 16 June 2020 09: 16
                -2
                Quote: rzzz
                And the memory is already almost gone.

                If you do not remind (us and them), then it will not be at all, and we will have to "unconscious" again go to the front ...
                1. Rzzz
                  Rzzz 16 June 2020 09: 21
                  13
                  I think this is a natural process, nothing can be done with it. Events go down in history, time erases memory.
                  We do not hold parades in memory of the war of 1812. Although at one time they remembered and celebrated.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 16 June 2020 09: 32
                    +2
                    Quote: rzzz
                    We do not hold parades in memory of the war of 1812.

                    The farther we are from those times, the more it is necessary to remind about this.
                    I am sorry that we do not celebrate the day of France's surrender (March 31, 1914), for that everyone remembers "Borodino Day".
                    What we are reminded of is what we remember.
              2. Ross xnumx
                Ross xnumx 16 June 2020 09: 40
                +4
                Quote: rzzz
                there are almost no more people to whom the dead were close.

                I would say:
                .there were almost no people left to whom the victims were close relatives.
                But no one draws an analogy with the Patriotic War of 1812 ... There, too, they did not play toys with Napoleon ...
            3. NEXUS
              NEXUS 16 June 2020 11: 50
              +5
              Quote: Boris55
              I need.

              You know, I’ll answer you this way ... you don’t have to go to church to believe in God. About the power of our army, and so on around the world, it is not established, and the next demonstration, by and large, will not change anything.
              I was always worried about one question: why don't we also honor those 12 thousand Soviet soldiers who died in battles with the Kwantung army? Why does September 2 have a simple ordinary day? Or did these fighters not deserve their memory and honors?
              1. Ryaruav
                Ryaruav 16 June 2020 19: 42
                0
                you are right, the war with Hitler Germany ended on May 9 but the Second World War was not over, it’s impossible to belittle the victory of our Soviet army over the Japanese Kwantung army, the Americans have never encountered such a large Japanese contingent on the land, it’s not American island operations
            4. The comment was deleted.
          2. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 16 June 2020 08: 35
            +6
            Quote: Stas157
            And who needs it after May 9?

            This action becomes meaningless if carried out in isolation from a great date.

            And with luboks on the mausoleum it also acquires a mocking shade.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 16 June 2020 08: 57
              12
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              And with luboks on the mausoleum it also acquires a mocking shade.

              Parade in isolation from everything. From the main symbol (Mausoleum), from the date of the event and therefore completely not interesting to people. The authorities surprise in their perseverance to hold him when the train left.
              1. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 16 June 2020 11: 10
                +6
                It is necessary to coincide with the parade by next year, and it is better to spend the money on medicine.
            2. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 16 June 2020 09: 42
              +1
              Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
              And with luboks on the mausoleum it also acquires a mocking shade.

              Quote: Stas157
              Parade in isolation from everything. From the main symbol (Mausoleum), from the date of the event and therefore completely not interesting to people.

              Exactly... good
              And someone was afraid of the name of Stalin?
        2. 4ekist
          4ekist 16 June 2020 12: 09
          +1
          I think that many people have already been ill, without knowing it themselves, asymptomatically or in a mild form and without resorting to medical help.
      2. Grits
        Grits 16 June 2020 09: 56
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        It is enough that on June 9, my beloved satirist TRUSHKIN Anatoly Alekseevich died from complications after being infected with coronavirus.

        Wow ... Something didn’t slip anywhere on the media. Or I missed fighting the coronavirus in my area.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 16 June 2020 10: 00
          +3
          Quote: Gritsa
          Something didn’t slip anywhere in the media.

          https://www.t24.su/umer-pisatel-satirik-anatolij-trushkin/?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 June 2020 07: 05
      12
      IMHO, I would have canceled all the parades, except for the Moscow one ... well, in St. Petersburg more ... but there the naval parade is just brilliance.
      1. halpat
        halpat 16 June 2020 09: 03
        +4
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        IMHO, I would have canceled all the parades, except for the Moscow one ... well, in St. Petersburg more ... but there the naval parade is just brilliance.

        Plus to you.
        Moscow, Peter, Volgograd and Sevastopol.
        And good at this, in the current epidemiological situation.
        Salutes wherever planned, according to the usual schedule.
    3. Civil
      Civil 16 June 2020 07: 07
      -8
      It is necessary to increase the number of parades, and they indulge Russophobian coronavirus. I suggest parades to be held monthly in all cities, quarterly reporting parades in the centers of federal districts and annually a combined parade in the hero city of Moscow. This will be powerful.
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 16 June 2020 07: 22
        +5
        There is such a thing. If earlier in "Perekrestok" they were sent far and for a long time, if you were without a mask, now they serve without problems.
        Yes, and "Euro Kebab" just like most stores.
        There are shops that, not only without a mask, but without gloves, will not serve, even if you have a mask on. We have a bakery.
        There are fewer people without masks on the streets, because people are tired of wearing them and are wasting money on them.
        Yes, I myself put on a mask where they can be fined.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 28
          +6
          Quote: Jack O'Neill
          sent away for a long time, if you were without a mask, now they serve without problems.

          That's right ... tired and relaxed! We are ascending !!! not a crisis, but the epidemic is still far away. It is still necessary to be patient, not to aggravate.
          1. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 16 June 2020 11: 11
            -1
            Peak epidemic:
            https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
          2. bayard
            bayard 16 June 2020 14: 44
            +1
            Quote: rocket757
            not a crisis, but the epidemic is still far away. It is still necessary to be patient, not to aggravate.

            Are you still sleeping in the mask?
            What kind of EPIDEMIC are you talking about when the percentage of cases for the whole period does not reach 5% ... Even perhaps up to 2% (and the EPIDEMIC is at least 10% ... ONE TIME !!!).
            When is MORTALITY BELOW from it than from ordinary flu?
            When all who are not lazy are recorded as victims of the "coronavirus" - those who have died from LUNG INFLAMMATION and stroke, old age and an accident!
            Doctors already repent that they are forced to wind statistics.
            And those whom the doctors drag into the hospital are stabbed with obscure medications that make people cramp, Cough and suffocation ...
            And from the screens as during the war - "PANDEMIA" !!!
            WHAT pandemic ??? !!!
            A pandemic, this is when 50% or more is sick at once !!!
            Are you under the sea or what?
            You do not see that you have hung a noodle in your ears?

            Here Belarus HELD the Victory Parade on May 9 - as it should.
            Without any restrictions.
            Well ?
            Where are the mountains of corpses in the streets?
            Where is the surge in the number of cases?
            In Turkmenistan, even the word "coronavirus" is prohibited!
            And where is at least ONE sick from this infection in Turkmenistan?

            You are being manipulated by certain forces - supranational forces.
            Which and the Presidents were driven into the bunker.
            Which ALL governments, the state apparatus and ALL officials ... almost the whole world (in addition to: Cuba, S. Korea, Belarus, Sweden, ... Switzerland and several more) obey online.
            Russia - obeyed like a madman. All feigned "sovereignty" flew off like fallen leaves from a gust of wind ...

            There is no "epidemic".
            Moreover, the "pandemic".
            NO quarantine!
            What is there?
            Attention ...
            SELF-ISOLATION !
            This is how someone will offer you ...
            By myself!
            Kill your head against the wall. lol
            And here you are, with zeal and readiness - bang your head against the wall.
            With self-forgetfulness.
            Jokes and dances from "self-isolation".
            After some time, they say to you, "Well, perhaps that's enough, I slapped the wall" ... and you answered: "NO, I will bring the matter to a victorious end!" ...
            And you don’t even know that you are MYSTERY.
            ... How angry boys are in the yard over the city fool ...

            There is such a concept - "qigan magic". When a gypsy woman says only one word or phrase, and the person no longer remembers and does not understand ... He gives everything himself, helps to take things out of the house and load them, get all the stash and give them back ... And then in bewilderment: "Yes how so ?" ...
            Have you heard about that?
            And now I will say one of these words to you (for the current situation):
            CORONOVIRUS!
            There are a few more.

            But people die not from words ...
            And from the "treatment".
            And they usually get sick from "testing". yes
            It seemed much easier - spit them on the glass, if they ask very much ... But NO - they climb into the mouth with some rubbish.
            Then - "Oh, you got sick."
            And then "treatment".
            In solitary confinement.
            "Humanoid" in spacesuits ... lol

            And this is ALL, of course, for your "good".

            BELIEVE?
            smile

            Do not be ill ... love bully hi soldier .
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 16 June 2020 18: 13
              +1
              Apparently ... to you to another specialist., He was waiting for you.
          3. GUSAR
            GUSAR 16 June 2020 17: 40
            0
            Well, bear on. You can generally isolate yourself for life. And for others it is not necessary to decide
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 26
        +9
        Quote: Civil
        This will be powerful.

        Powerful, but stupid ... more precisely, on the verge of a crime against the citizens of his country ... and so, he joked in the morning and the whole day will be marked by fun!
        1. Civil
          Civil 16 June 2020 07: 46
          -8
          Each municipality should hold a competition of songs and songs, a ten-year reporting district parade with an orchestra. The atmosphere of universal happiness and unity will reign.
          1. Those who miss the parade for a disrespectful reason must be fined.
          2. Those who are disrespectful of parades shall be held criminally responsible for the rehabilitation of Nazism.
          3. Pupils of educational institutions to introduce the mandatory delivery of standards for drill line, construction and frunt. Those who did not turn in to send to special front-line detachments for correction.
          1. Crane
            Crane 16 June 2020 11: 02
            +1
            In the USSR, there was a song and order contest in schools. In any case, in my 7th grade. Even some lessons were canceled while the gym was free. So we sang and marched in the leg. Brad ...
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 16 June 2020 11: 31
              +3
              The pioneers, competitions between the detachments, so they "had fun", it was ... but the whole school was preoccupied with this, I don't remember that.
      3. Insurgent
        Insurgent 16 June 2020 07: 32
        -2
        Quote: Civil
        It is necessary to increase the number of parades, and they indulge Russophobian coronavirus. I suggest parades to be held monthly in all cities, quarterly reporting parades in the centers of federal districts and annually a combined parade in the hero city of Moscow. This will be powerful.

        Perhaps you just need to learn how to relate to your history, your homeland, as others do? Chinese...

        Video from the Ukropskiy channel "1 + 1" ("Kolomoisky TV"), but without being politicized, due to the entertainment format of the program, and what is important for full-fledged perception - in Russian, which is rather an exception for this channel. But what can't you do for the view rating repeat .

      4. sergo1914
        sergo1914 16 June 2020 07: 34
        13
        Ahead to put the consolidated columns of the State Duma, the Federal Assembly and the Presidential Administration.
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 16 June 2020 07: 44
          13
          Quote: sergo1914
          Ahead to put the consolidated columns of the State Duma, the Federal Assembly and the Presidential Administration.
          So?
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 16 June 2020 07: 51
            +2
            Quote: Pilot
            Quote: sergo1914
            Ahead to put the consolidated columns of the State Duma, the Federal Assembly and the Presidential Administration.



            Boldly. I am for. Great format.
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 16 June 2020 09: 25
            -7
            Quote: Pilot
            Ahead to put the consolidated columns of the State Duma, the Federal Assembly and the Presidential Administration.

            Pilot. I'll tell you such a bike.

            During slavery, whites transported blacks to America on sailboats. On one of these ships an uprising broke out and the blacks threw all whites overboard. None of them knew how to control the ship ... After many, many days another ship met him. Only one survived on that ship.

            Do you propose to do the same with the country?
            1. Pilot
              Pilot 16 June 2020 10: 02
              10
              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: Pilot
              Ahead to put the consolidated columns of the State Duma, the Federal Assembly and the Presidential Administration.

              Pilot. I'll tell you such a bike.

              During slavery, whites transported blacks to America on sailboats. On one of these ships an uprising broke out and the blacks threw all whites overboard. None of them knew how to control the ship ... After many, many days another ship met him. Only one survived on that ship.

              Do you propose to do the same with the country?

              Boris, do not ascribe other people's quotes to me! As for the tales, so who would doubt that the streamers would compare our people with uneducated blacks from the time of slavery, and their master as an over-educated deity. Above hinted at your low intelligence, but I think that you constantly rave, can, the crown, does it? In common sense, how can Zero-Zniewicz be considered a Bolshevik? wassat
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 16 June 2020 10: 08
                -5
                Quote: Pilot
                Boris, do not ascribe other people's quotes to me!

                And why did you post this photo? Is it not to deprive us of control and thereby destroy the country? Can't add 2 + 2?


                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 16 June 2020 19: 27
                  +7
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Quote: Pilot
                  Boris, do not ascribe other people's quotes to me!

                  And why did you post this photo? Is it not to deprive us of control and thereby destroy the country? Can't add 2 + 2?


                  if Lenin was remembered, then it’s not a sin to remember him again ...


                  So our "elite" will destroy the country. There is no doubt about her capabilities and desires. In Russia, all revolutions are from above, it just so happened
              2. Civil
                Civil 16 June 2020 11: 32
                +1
                who would doubt that the streams would compare our people with uneducated blacks from the time of slavery, and their master by an over-educated deity


                laughing laughing lol fire comment, they themselves measure))))))))
      5. Galleon
        Galleon 16 June 2020 09: 51
        +6
        Vadim, what is there! What are you half measures? Let’s do it like under Paul the first: every divorce is a parade. 19.00 - daily. This will be powerful. laughing
        The military loves to make fun of themselves. Here's an example saying: if you see the fourth chest in the ranks, it means that you love your homeland firmly!
      6. 4ekist
        4ekist 16 June 2020 12: 12
        +1
        This is an inappropriate joke.
    4. Far B
      Far B 16 June 2020 07: 22
      +6
      And in Belarus somehow there was no outbreak of infection after the May 9 parade. Did the terrible Belarusian firewall work?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 29
        +3
        Lucky or something else ... God grant them all health.
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 June 2020 07: 39
        +1
        And in Belarus somehow there was no outbreak of infection after the May 9 parade.

        Do you have any data? Or, since they say nothing, then there was nothing?
      3. halpat
        halpat 16 June 2020 09: 08
        +3
        Quote: Far In
        And in Belarus somehow there was no outbreak of infection after the May 9 parade. Did the terrible Belarusian firewall work?

        But father moved his mustache, his bald head flashed - that’s the whole firewall :)
      4. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 16 June 2020 11: 16
        +2
        So they will tell you. And what's that? All curves up:
        https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
        And China, for example. Complete victory:
        https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
    5. Bar1
      Bar1 16 June 2020 08: 33
      -4
      Local administrations believe that holding mass events on June 24 is dangerous from an epidemiological point of view.


      shame on these heads of administrations, a parade was held in Belarus and there is no epidemic there, they organized a massive psychosis.



      VICTORY parade is more important than a fictitious epidemic.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 June 2020 08: 49
        +7
        fictitious epidemic

        Tell me, if, personally, you and no one in your environment have, for example, asthma, does this mean that it is also invented?
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 16 June 2020 14: 51
          0
          Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
          fictitious epidemic

          Tell me, if, personally, you and no one in your environment have, for example, asthma, does this mean that it is also invented?

          this means that there is no asthma epidemic.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 June 2020 13: 34
            0
            You yourself wrote that the coronavirus epidemic was invented. What is the difference between one non-existent epidemic and another?
      2. FIR FIR
        FIR FIR 16 June 2020 16: 27
        +1
        In the infectious diseases hospitals? Wise guy ... Did you see the dead? No! Don’t carry the blizzard!
    6. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 16 June 2020 11: 07
      +2
      The performance is still poor:
      https://parsonstwins.000webhostapp.com/?fbclid=IwAR0RKyuV3UHi-eyDrkSYIzUdAqc8mDwgPzFdn5V9ZLTT82qyc0jx4y96JTw
    7. GUSAR
      GUSAR 16 June 2020 17: 34
      0
      And there was no quarantine
  2. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 16 June 2020 06: 47
    -15 qualifying.
    Because the local authorities of Judah are corrupt, an emergency parade can be held without spectators. People walk in the streets, soldiers and so on live together, and nothing will happen if they march in honor of their great ancestors, their grandparents, and paying tribute to them.
    1. Deniska999
      Deniska999 16 June 2020 07: 06
      +8
      Well, what selfish benefit to local authorities from the cancellation of the parade? Or again the hand of the State Department, breaking the braces?
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 16 June 2020 07: 46
        -6
        And where is the guarantee that there is no?
        This is disrespect for their history, for their ancestors. Why is it so pronounced, at least it is degenerates without a sense of homeland.
        1. Revival
          Revival 16 June 2020 10: 03
          +2
          Well, nothing, here we accept the amendments and uh ...
      2. halpat
        halpat 16 June 2020 09: 10
        0
        Quote: Deniska999
        Well, what selfish benefit to local authorities from the cancellation of the parade? Or again the hand of the State Department, breaking the braces?

        Preparing to cancel (postpone) the vote on constitutional amendments.
        Intelligence in battle, so to speak.
      3. 72jora72
        72jora72 16 June 2020 10: 24
        0
        Well, what selfish benefit to local authorities from the cancellation of the parade? Or again, the hand of the State Department
        And I’ll explain to you, everything is simple, now each region (city, village, street ......) will decide for itself (you’ve stuffed full pockets of independence) whether it is possible to come to them from other regions, whether it is possible to go to the neighboring city ​​or not, can you go to the store or take a walk or not. Now you can cancel anything, parades, polls, elections, working days, weekends ....... yes anything. Now, when leaving the plane (train, bus), you may be required to present a bunch of certificates, measure the temperature, oxygen in the blood (skull firm, etc.). The sterkhovod releases power from his hands, and this will manifest itself in future events.
  3. Olegater
    Olegater 16 June 2020 06: 48
    -1
    Good morning, dear forum users!

    Based on this information, we can say that the regional authorities went "some to the forest, some for firewood." Complete inconsistency with the center. On the one hand, people's lives are more expensive, prolonging anti-quarantine measures at least somehow reduce the incidence. On the other hand, it shows some kind of disobedience to the center. Such a hidden sabotage. And by voting on amendments. Will the virus disappear by July 1? On orders from above? Yeah, schaz. And what happens. We do not hold a parade (or partly) but go to the vote with the whole crowd? Not logical.
    Reading materials on other sites, it turns out that the second wave of the epidemic is approaching. And just in time for the day of voting. Maybe this day should be rescheduled?
    My opinion: the Victory Parade is "crumpled" due to inconsistency, and the vote should be sold out, so to speak enchanting.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 03
      +6
      Quote: Olegater
      Such a hidden sabotage.

      Or maybe just a HEALTHY SENSE? On the ground, in the regions, there is no such medicine as in the capitals and the consequences, in which case they will be slightly worse than there.
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 16 June 2020 07: 06
        +2
        Good morning!
        I completely agree that the place is more visible. And medicine in the regions is mildly lame.
        But what about the vote on amendments? What can you say? Will they be held partially based on the situation, or will they all be driven to points?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 33
          +1
          Quote: Olegater
          Will they be held partially based on the situation, or will they all be driven to points?

          To drive not e e, not those times. They will come up with options, although they were in a hurry here, of course. Can you think from such a rush that something will change ... is it somehow better to carry out such events when society calms down ... or do I not know something ???
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 16 June 2020 08: 50
          -1
          Quote: Olegater
          But what about the vote on amendments? What can you say? Will they be held partially based on the situation, or will they all be driven to points?

          And let those and only those who are "for" come.
          And more crowded, more crowded.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 June 2020 09: 20
            +3
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            And let those and only those who are "for" come.
            And more crowded, more crowded.

            That is, to become infected and die more? Do you wish death to your compatriots, whose opinion does not coincide with yours? Did I understand you correctly?
          2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 June 2020 09: 55
            +1
            My dear, you deign me to answer, or are you shy?
            1. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 16 June 2020 21: 36
              0
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              That is, to become infected and die more? Do you wish death to your compatriots, whose opinion does not coincide with yours? Did I understand you correctly?

              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              My dear, you deign me to answer, or are you shy?

              No, I'm not shy.
              For any decision, a person must answer for himself and his health, and sometimes life,
              but not strangers. For the decisions of those whom he supports "for life" - too.
              As an example: Velikoretskiy Religious Procession has not been "blessed" by the authorities, was deprived
              police and medical escorts, it was announced about this honestly and in advance.
              Nevertheless, those who believed that faith would help and protect them went.
              So it is here: let the believers go and prove the truth on themselves.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 17 June 2020 13: 32
                +1
                You are a demagogue and evade the answer.
                Your words
                And let those and only those who are "for" come.
                And more crowded, more crowded.

                What do they mean?
        3. 72jora72
          72jora72 17 June 2020 13: 22
          0
          I completely agree that the place is more visible.
          You know better what? Who knows better? Most regions "monkey" from Moscow, remember how Sobyanin initially led the regions and set tasks for the government ...
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 16 June 2020 07: 51
        -5
        So you can hold in empty stands. But the soldiers are already living together. Some technique has protection.
      3. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 16 June 2020 12: 11
        +2
        Quote: rocket757
        On the ground, in the regions, there is no such medicine as in the capitals

        It is likely that in the regions of medicine, in principle, there is no (there are only leftovers) ... Yes, and the peak incidence in the regions is passing right now, somewhere has not even reached the peak. I think all these are consequences of the fact that from Moscow, right before the closure of the movement, they spread throughout Russia.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 June 2020 12: 54
          0
          Quote: CT-55_11-9009
          It is likely that in the regions of medicine, in principle, no (there are only leftovers) ...

          Tell me such a region, city, village, farm ... maybe we don’t know what?
          And so, worse, this does not mean that it is not ....
          1. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 16 June 2020 13: 16
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            Tell me such a region, city, village, farm ... maybe we don’t know what?
            And so, worse, this does not mean that it is not ....

            Chuvash Republic, the city of Cheboksary. If you want a tresak in general: Shumerlya, Komsomolskoye, Krasnye Chetai, Batyrevo, etc.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 16 June 2020 13: 40
              0
              Those. there is no medical support there at all?
              Maybe it's some other city ... looked in the directory 7 pages with addresses and descriptions of what, where and how, located and treated.
              Maybe you look, count?
              Shumerlya, only two medical centers are described, this is not much, but the city is smaller than our village, twice as much and we have one clinic, not counting other small shadows.
              1. CT-55_11-9009
                CT-55_11-9009 16 June 2020 13: 57
                +4
                Quote: rocket757
                Those. there is no medical support there at all?
                Maybe it's some other city ... looked in the directory 7 pages with addresses and descriptions of what, where and how, located and treated.
                Maybe you look, count?
                Shumerlya, only two medical centers are described, this is not much, but the city is smaller than our village, twice as much and we have one clinic, not counting other small shadows.

                De jure - there is a lot there. De facto - they treat only what you can cure yourself at home. Complex and rare cases of diseases are not treated by themselves and are not sent to the "Center", even the same Kazan. It is not uncommon for a diagnosis to be made without (!!!) full first examination, as a result, treatment recommendations exacerbate the real. Medical education is poor. At the very couple of acquaintances studying for a physician. So: I’ll better drink potassium cyanide, but I won’t go to them for treatment - because I will die in long agony.
                That working, which still remains, rests on the Soviet backlog: buildings, equipment, and most importantly - people. There are almost no experienced doctors left, young people are at best inexperienced, in the most frequent case - do not care (we get money for work - okay). Yes, there are doctors who really know their job, treat, help patients. But there are very few of them, but the bureaucrats from medicine are hordes. And through them one has to punch (and for a long time, sometimes for years) even finding out the diagnosis, not like treatment.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 16 June 2020 14: 32
                  0
                  What "diseases" the state has, are the same in medicine. There is nothing unexpected ... patients vote with their feet, go to the one who heals, and not to the one who receives the money. This is the case everywhere.
                  Shaw to say ... it’s easier for us, our own clinic at the enterprise ... specialists in city clinics. The general feeling is who there is no consensus.
                  1. CT-55_11-9009
                    CT-55_11-9009 16 June 2020 15: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: rocket757
                    What "diseases" the state has, are the same in medicine. There is nothing unexpected ...

                    I agree. With great regret, this is so.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 16 June 2020 07: 20
      +7
      Quote: Olegater
      Maybe this day should be rescheduled?

      On a good day, you need to cancel this altogether. Well, what is there to vote for? In general, I agree with you, during epidemics there is no time for parades and voting, you need to observe safety measures and not risk health to a large number of citizens. And then get a feast during the plague ..
      And I also agree by region, indeed, who is in the woods who is by fire .. but this is a sign of poor governance ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 June 2020 07: 36
        +2
        Quote: Svarog
        On a good day, you need to cancel this altogether. Well, what is there to vote for?

        If everything was carried out on garlic, it would be a real TEST of the attitude of the population to the top ... and so, from the flunk bay, with all sorts of restrictions No.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 16 June 2020 10: 36
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          If everything was carried out on garlic, it would be a real TEST of the attitude of the population to the top ... and so, from the flunk bay, with all sorts of restrictions

          "Garlic" now can be nothing, and not all the inhabitants have yet realized the depth of the depths and the breakthrough in the bottom. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 16 June 2020 11: 28
            -1
            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: rocket757
            If everything was carried out on garlic, it would be a real TEST of the attitude of the population to the top ... and so, from the flunk bay, with all sorts of restrictions

            "Garlic" now can be nothing, and not all the inhabitants have yet realized the depth of the depths and the breakthrough in the bottom. hi

            insight does not come to everyone and not immediately ... to some never ... BUT, a very skillful substitution of concepts, substitution of the most important interests and priorities, does its job!
            It’s not so bad here, and in some aspects it’s much better than somewhere else ... and they believe it and will believe it. This is just skillful work, those who fool some, for the sake of the interests of others! Such is the reality, the MATRIX of our life!
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 16 June 2020 11: 32
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              This is just skillful work, those who fool some, for the sake of the interests of others! Such is the reality, the MATRIX of our life!

              I can not disagree with you hi It is surprising that people, seeing what is happening, no longer believe in their own eyes, but believe in empty-bellies from a durocop.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 16 June 2020 11: 43
                0
                This is already a technology, it works like a dash, but sometimes they misfire too.
                People, society, this is too peculiar an environment where nobody can foresee everything and always.
    3. vadimtt
      vadimtt 16 June 2020 09: 56
      +1
      Quote: Olegater
      Such hidden sabotage

      This is not sabotage. Just the supreme casually threw all responsibility on the heads of the regions. Those from such ofigeli (unusual to answer) and stood in a pose "as if something did not work out." But yes, there is a collision - not holding a parade is also "flying" laughing
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 16 June 2020 06: 50
    +3
    More and more cities in Russia are forced to endure a military parade

    Quote: Herman 4223
    Because the local authorities of Judah are corrupt, an emergency parade can be held without spectators.

    And it was possible on May 9, 2020 to hold a festive salute in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in hero cities and regional centers ...
    1. Crane
      Crane 16 June 2020 11: 13
      +2
      And it was possible on May 9, 2020 to hold a festive salute in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in hero cities and regional centers ...
      =======
      But were there no fireworks? You are mistaken. In Voronezh it was. At 22 00, from Rapir, it seems, they fired. Hurry to throw in?
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 16 June 2020 11: 16
        +1
        Quote: Crane
        But were there no fireworks? You are mistaken.

        Sorry, I was mistaken ... It was necessary:
        And it was possible on May 9, 2020 to hold a festive salute in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in hero cities and regional centers ... and that’s it!
  5. syndicalist
    syndicalist 16 June 2020 07: 00
    -4
    If they are afraid of the word "cancel", then let them postpone to May 8, 2021
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 June 2020 07: 01
    +4
    Yes and there is no such need in every village to hold a parade. And on what the local authorities rely, there is some kind of statistics, the conclusion of doctors and so on. If just so, then this is sabotage however, with all the consequences.
  7. Pilot
    Pilot 16 June 2020 07: 08
    +7
    There is no silver lining, you look like that and we will survive July 1 in the regions. wink However, it’s a shame that the May 9 Victory Parade did not take place, but now it’s not that .. recourse
  8. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 June 2020 07: 16
    +4
    Today an interesting article was published about the current situation in Russia. Comments are especially interesting.
    https://topwar.ru/172147-kak-nikolaj-ii-dovel-rossiju-do-revoljucii.html
  9. askort154
    askort154 16 June 2020 07: 27
    11
    COVID -19 shows the weakness of the Russian administrative apparatus at all levels of government. The central government, fearing the unpredictability of the consequences, assigned the solution of the problem, and therefore responsibility, to the regions. In the end, confusion and reeling. Most surprisingly, the perseverance in the providence of the vote on constitutional amendments. What urgency and what an urgent need ?!
    Why not coincide this vote with the next elections in the country, after printing one point. But no, Panfilova proudly reported that 180 million ballots have already been prepared and that the Central Election Commission is fully ready by July 1. This is what a waste of money! How do they imagine - a queue of 180 million people with an interval of 1,5 meters ?! And the situation with the "parade", in general - jerks.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 16 June 2020 08: 29
      +6
      Panfilova proudly reported that 180 million ballots have already been prepared
      Is it a puncture? Or is it as intended? There are actually 146 million of us, and then, along with those who are too early to vote. Or do we have a multi-million foreign diaspora? Or is it to correct those who have voted wrong?
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 16 June 2020 08: 38
        0
        I believe the latter option is the most real.
      2. Galleon
        Galleon 16 June 2020 10: 17
        +4
        I looked at the numbers now.
        We are 146 million 595 thousand, of which 22 million 264 thousand are children under the age of 15. Up to 16 years, let it be 24 million. Remaining 122,5 million people with the right to vote. Given the large number of boycotting elections and voting (sorry, the last 2-3 times I went to the polling station in the evening and saw numerous blank and half-empty signature sheets in the books of registration) it turns out, I am not afraid of this word, 100% duplication of ballots. Bravo, Ellochka! For some reason, I want to recover from her pocket a print of 180-122,5 = 57,5 million extra ballots. This is turning a blind eye to all the other nuances - just for cost overruns, for my money to buy waste paper.
      3. askort154
        askort154 16 June 2020 13: 58
        +2
        NDR-791 .....This is a puncture? Or is it as intended? There are actually 146 million of us, and then, along with those who are too early to vote.

        To blame! Her report sounded the figure of 110 million. When I printed, I was also surprised why there was more population. While rechecking, it was too late to change. I repent! crying
  10. Doccor18
    Doccor18 16 June 2020 07: 42
    +7
    And the Victory Parade and amendments to the fundamental law are important things. But why such a rush? Why the masked military? Why create additional health risks?
    And the parade and voting could be held on September 2-3, declaring them holidays.
    But the authorities, apparently, have a different logic ..
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    2. Boris55
      Boris55 16 June 2020 09: 56
      -4
      Quote: Doccor18
      And the parade and the vote could be held on September 2-3

      The term "World War II" was coined in the West to nullify our victory over fascism (the world bourgeoisie). Celebrating September 2-3 is to betray our ancestors who defeated fascism.

      There were two different wars.

      The war on the Western Front was for us a war of liberation.
      The war on the eastern front is a war in fulfillment of allied obligations, military assistance to China in the liberation of Manchuria from Japanese militarism, and, as it may not seem harsh, the seizure of part of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands that previously belonged to us (under the kings) from Japan.

      These are two different wars. One is liberating, the other is predatory.
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 16 June 2020 12: 27
        +3
        Quote: Boris55
        The term "World War II" was coined in the West to nullify our victory over fascism (the world bourgeoisie). Celebrating September 2-3 is to betray our ancestors who defeated fascism.

        Well, well, we have the First World War, and in the West - the Great. What, now we have come up with the term "WWI" in order to banish their "Great War" ...? No, this is simply different terminology of historians. There is no need to cast a shadow over the fence. The Great Patriotic War was chronologically part of the WWII (which for some reason is considered from September 1, 1939, although different parts of the world by that time were already blazing completely for themselves, the Ethiopians and Chinese would not allow a lie), but for the inhabitants of the former USSR it has muchоlower value than other WWII fronts.
        Quote: Boris55
        The war on the eastern front is a war in fulfillment of allied obligations, military assistance to China in the liberation of Manchuria from Japanese militarism, and, as it may not seem harsh, the seizure of part of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands that previously belonged to us (under the kings) from Japan.

        These are two different wars. One is liberating, the other is predatory.


        Crimea, 2014 - capture or return? The partition of Poland with Hitler - the seizure of a piece of Poland or the return of the western parts of Ukraine and Belarus? It all depends on the views. Here it is
        Quote: Boris55
        the seizure of previously part of Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands, which belonged to us (under the kings), from Japan.
        you have humiliated Soviet soldiers, current veterans, and our history itself is much more than all the Western media combined. It was not a capture, it was return of the lost.
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    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 16 June 2020 07: 58
      +4
      But nothing that the first Victory Parade was held on June 24th? The one on which German banners were thrown to the mausoleum of V.I. Lenin. And it happened exactly 75 years ago.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 16 June 2020 08: 40
        -5
        It's nothing.
        It was necessary to think about this earlier, a year before the event. Now you have to wriggle like a worm in a pan, luring people to a vote.
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 16 June 2020 09: 06
          -1
          Well, you do not lure? Is not it?
          And you must vote and if you are against, then go vote against otherwise your vote will be lost and our opinion will statistically increase. The opinion of those who are for. The opinion of those who are against the so-called "international law" in Russia to prevail over Russian laws.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 16 June 2020 10: 24
            +2
            Quote: Svetlana
            so that the so-called "international law" in Russia prevails over Russian laws.

            Quote: Svetlana
            so-called "international law"

            "prevails" over Russian laws only by our consent and agreements.
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 16 June 2020 11: 13
              -1
              No, not by agreement and agreements, but by the Constitution adopted by Mr. Yeltsin. And these are different things.
              It is against this that I, like others, are going to vote.
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 16 June 2020 11: 57
                0
                Quote: Svetlana
                No, not by agreement and agreements, but by the Constitution adopted by Mr. Yeltsin.

                Give an example.
                1. Svetlana
                  Svetlana 16 June 2020 12: 14
                  0
                  Do you have a link to the current constitution? Or her article number?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 16 June 2020 16: 51
                    0
                    Quote: Svetlana
                    Or her article number?

                    Any article that is corrected.
        2. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 16 June 2020 09: 37
          0
          Last year, only signatures were collected for this, consider the whole year. So you would have put your signature and maybe the vote passed before the virus.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 16 June 2020 08: 58
        +2
        Quote: Svetlana
        But nothing that the first Victory Parade was held on June 24th? The one on which German banners were thrown to the mausoleum of V.I. Lenin. And it happened exactly 75 years ago.

        But nothing that the fascist banners were thrown to the mausoleum, and not to a painted cardboard box?
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 16 June 2020 09: 25
          +2
          They were not thrown to the mausoleum as such, but to the feet of the one who rests there. And the founder of the Soviet State is still there. On the same spot.
      3. Revival
        Revival 16 June 2020 10: 23
        -1
        So we’ll throw all the banners in full compliance, because the anniversary is significant!
        A strange picture in places can turn out ...
        Or is it not, let’s retreat from the original despite the sign? But how so !?
  12. Svetlana
    Svetlana 16 June 2020 07: 49
    0
    Either the transfer of the parade or the rejection of it. Which by and large is not good.
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 16 June 2020 07: 52
    +2
    how do regional authorities plan to resolve the issue of voting on constitutional amendments scheduled for July 1?
    ... By July 1, a pandemic will plummet ... smile
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 16 June 2020 07: 57
      +1
      Yeah, the card of diseases with a crown from Tyrnet will be removed or the speedometer will be twisted on it.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 16 June 2020 08: 15
        0
        [B]
        Yeah, the card of diseases with a crown from Tyrnet will be removed or the speedometer will be twisted on it [
        / B]
        "This is our tradition and we keep it" (c)
  14. Brigadier
    Brigadier 16 June 2020 07: 53
    -1
    Quote: Doccor18
    And the Victory Parade and amendments to the fundamental law are important things. But why such a rush? Why the masked military? Why create additional health risks?
    And the parade and voting could be held on September 2-3, declaring them holidays. But the authorities, apparently, have a different logic ..

    "Why such a rush" - you ask?
    And it means that some people really want to "reset" as soon as possible, because then they may not be allowed on the train.

    A Military Parade not May 9 - This is just an ordinary parade (passage of the military and their equipment).
    But it will not be a festive parade in memory of the victory over fascism.
    May 9 is May 9!
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 16 June 2020 09: 48
      -1
      You can reset to zero in a year or two, there is time before the vote, the reason is not the same.
      Would you begin to zealously follow the instructions of the departing boss if another person comes to his place tomorrow who can also remove you for this?
      Zeroing is necessary for the instructions to be followed. That there was no doubt among subordinates.
      1. Revival
        Revival 16 June 2020 10: 27
        +2
        May decrees were already fulfilled, more than once, yeah ...
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 16 June 2020 10: 40
          -1
          We do not provide for punishment for non-compliance with decrees and orders of the President, because a lot is not being implemented.
          Nevertheless, the president has some leverage, some may lose their posts, for example, or some other way of pressure.
          Why complicate your life if a person can still remain in power, at least something will be fulfilled.
          1. Revival
            Revival 16 June 2020 13: 15
            +2
            Consider a wonderful feature for the president of an entire country?
            Obviously this should be the president?
            1. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 16 June 2020 15: 04
              0
              This is a characteristic of the entire post under this name.
              The amendment on the topic of punishments for failure to comply with presidential decrees among deputies failed for some reason.
  15. Docx2032
    Docx2032 16 June 2020 07: 53
    -1
    If the Russian army is afraid of a cold - let it sit on the barracks. On Halloween, you can have your parade. Thank God we do not play these role-playing games with handkerchiefs in Belarus.
  16. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 16 June 2020 07: 54
    0
    How will they vote? No way, no matter how many people come, Panfilova blurted out at the conference, not thinking that everything had already been decided, and voting was nothing more than the goodness of the guarantor — to hear what people would say. Oh how! And you are voting, voting, who will say yes, who will say no, yes already sideways
  17. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 16 June 2020 07: 58
    -1
    "The devil is not so terrible as he is painted" ...
    There are 150 viruses circulating in humanity today, from which we not only get sick, but also die. BUT never before, after defeating the plague, smallpox, halera, did the economy of entire countries die. In this regard, many scientists, virologists and politicians in many countries consider the coronavirus as a biological weapon. At the same time, WHO is the "initiator" of its directed strikes with the support of the world media, creating a global psychosis of a "global" pandemic.
    But as soon as Trump refused WHO financing, the END of the pandemic came IMMEDIATELY, which was announced by WHO.
    https://cont.ws/@INFObazaSM/1698773
    Look at the root, dear. We will not sit out in the trenches of isolation.
  18. north 2
    north 2 16 June 2020 07: 59
    0
    in any regional center, only one percent of the inhabitants watch parades from the stands. The remaining residents of the parade are watching on TV. And if you take all of Russia with all its inhabitants, then
    99,9% of Russian residents watch parades on television. And from the stands then only 0,1 percent. And by the way, those 99,9% of the residents absolutely everything is equal, how many spectators are there in the stands and who is there in the stands. All of Russia observing the parade on TV is important only to military personnel and equipment - how they march and how they will show themselves in full dress. And if broadcasting the parade on TV does not show a single frame about people in the stands, then none of the viewers on the TV regret will not be.
    I understand that in many regional cities parents, wives and children can be spectators in the stands
    those who will walk in the parade. And for them it is a double holiday. But the current parade is special not only because of the date, but also because of the epidemiological situation in the country and in the world. And since the military
    the parade is primarily a drill, then the military will have no news to walk without spectators in the stands, and those eager to watch from the stands should understand that drills are not always held with spectators in the stands. And the military should explain this to their wives and children.
    The parade of military and technology should be held in all cities where it should be. He will show on television both the training of soldiers and equipment, and how he will march from a soldier to a general. This is the main purpose of the parade, as
    drill review. And that drill review does not have to take place with spectators in the stands, especially in case of danger of an epidemic, I already wrote about this above.
  19. ZaharoFF
    ZaharoFF 16 June 2020 08: 24
    -1
    Health, after all, is more important than any parades, and even more important than any voting.
  20. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 16 June 2020 08: 34
    -6
    voting prematurely is clear. Can cancel altogether and remove two points from the amendments
  21. private person
    private person 16 June 2020 09: 08
    -7
    And what is significant on June 24? And why is this date chosen? Well, even if a parade was to be held, it probably should have been in September on the day of victory over Japan, or after the referendum on constitutional amendments.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 16 June 2020 09: 23
      +5
       What is significant on June 24?


      And look at the history books.
      1. private person
        private person 16 June 2020 14: 59
        -1
        The parade of 1945 and the parade of 2020. So why did they celebrate 75 years on May 9? Or urgently need to raise the rating before voting?
  22. Million
    Million 16 June 2020 09: 40
    +6
    They did it right. People’s health is more important than a military show.
    Victory Parade was held in 1945.
  23. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 16 June 2020 09: 50
    +2
    People are not up to the parades. We would limit ourselves to congratulations and release material about the war, with some new facts from declassified. It would be interesting. A parade would be held next year. Everyone would understand everything. There would be no questions.
  24. Roman123567
    Roman123567 16 June 2020 10: 29
    0
    Russian President Vladimir Putin says that in the United States, "on the ground, the governors send the president," and in the Russian Federation it is impossible.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin believes that the United States is finding it difficult to get out of the situation with coronavirus because there, over the interests of the people, group, party interests dominate.

    “We are talking about the fact that at certain costs, problems, losses, but still quite rhythmically, so to speak, we work and get out of this situation with the coronavirus confidently, with minimal losses, God forbid, that this will continue. this does not happen in the United States, "Interfax quotes Putin.

    The Russian President believes that this is "related to the management system."

    "I doubt if someone somewhere in the government or in the regions says: we won’t do what the government says or the president says", - said Putin.

    In the United States, according to him, everything is different: “Here, the president says: we need to do this and that, but on the ground governors say: go away".
  25. Roman 57 rus
    Roman 57 rus 16 June 2020 11: 11
    +3
    And in our place in Orel the parade never happened, what was there to cancel ???
  26. Chersky
    Chersky 16 June 2020 11: 26
    0
    Quote: Boris55
    Quote: Stas157
    And who needs it after May 9?

    I think that not in all cities that refused to hold military parade, the cause is an epidemic situation. Surely some people argue the same way you do - why should the West frighten and remind him of their defeats, he’s so nice, white fluffy - the same evil Stalin attacked them ... and we are using his new weapon ... not good . So what?

    Enchanting nonsense! laughing
  27. Old26
    Old26 16 June 2020 15: 49
    +2
    Quote: rzzz
    The deceased are also remembered somehow no longer "for real", because there are almost no people left to whom the deceased were close.

    What makes you think that there is no one "really" to remember the dead and fought. Yes, there are very few of them left, but the next generation after them (for which these are fathers and mothers) are alive. As, in principle, the third generation, for whom these veterans are grandparents

    Quote: Gritsa
    Quote: ROSS 42
    It is enough that on June 9, my beloved satirist TRUSHKIN Anatoly Alekseevich died from complications after being infected with coronavirus.

    Wow ... Something didn’t slip anywhere on the media. Or I missed fighting the coronavirus in my area.

    Unfortunately, yes, he died. And there was information, at least on the net

    Quote: NEXUS
    I was always worried about one question: why don't we also honor those 12 thousand Soviet soldiers who died in battles with the Kwantung army? Why does September 2 have a simple ordinary day? Or did these fighters not deserve their memory and honors?

    You know, ADndrey, in fact, Victory Day on May 9 is a day of remembrance for everyone who died in that war. I had a neighbor in my porch, EMNIP, who was born 27 years old. They called up somewhere in February 1945, of course I didn’t get to the front, but he took part in the war with Japan. And for the neighbors there was no difference. My father, who fought on the 1st and 2nd Belorussian fronts, or he, who fought in the Far East. He was the same VETERAN, like those who went through the war with Germany.

    Quote: Alex Justice
    Peak epidemic

    We have been in the region for about three weeks, as the epidemic reached a plateau (I hope that there will be no further deterioration). There are still a lot of infections per day in the region, but the average figure for the last 3 weeks is from 80 to 89 people

    Quote: Olegater
    Good morning, dear forum users!

    Based on this information, we can say that the regional authorities went "some to the forest, some for firewood." Complete inconsistency with the center. On the one hand, people's lives are more expensive, prolonging anti-quarantine measures at least somehow reduce the incidence. On the other hand, it shows some kind of disobedience to the center. Such a hidden sabotage. And by voting on amendments. Will the virus disappear by July 1? On orders from above? Yeah, schaz. And what happens. We do not hold a parade (or partly) but go to the vote with the whole crowd? Not logical.
    Reading materials on other sites, it turns out that the second wave of the epidemic is approaching. And just in time for the day of voting. Maybe this day should be rescheduled?
    My opinion: the Victory Parade is "crumpled" due to inconsistency, and the vote should be sold out, so to speak enchanting.

    What do you see not submission to the Center? As soon as there was a first or second week of self-isolation, it was stated that quarantine issues were being resolved IN PLACES... For all "one size fits all" is impossible. In the same Crimea, according to official data, there are 546 cases, 7 have died today and 7 people have fallen ill per day. In our region on 16.06. 3845 cases, 714 deaths, 86 cases per day. Each region decides what to do: stop self-isolation or significantly weaken this regime, hold a parade - or not
    How is the parade "crumpled"? Does each region allocate its own "box" for the Moscow parade? It will be held in Moscow and in other cities. The only thing that can leave its mark is the weather.
    As for the elections, they are held during ONE WEEK. In compliance with security measures ....

    Quote: ROSS 42
    And it was possible on May 9, 2020 to hold a festive salute in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in hero cities and regional centers ...

    And they were, salutes. Nobody canceled them ...
  28. New Year day
    New Year day 16 June 2020 19: 07
    +5
    On May 9, Lukashenko celebrated the holiday with his parade. This fact has already been discussed. The severity of the issue is not the same; relevance is lost
  29. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 17 June 2020 08: 50
    +1
    Quote: Boris55
    a reminder to the West of what happens to them when they come to us without invitation. This is a demonstration of our strength, which is important in foreign policy.

    Do you think the whole "West" will clung to the screens on the 24th and think about us? naive ..
  30. Nikolai Korovin
    Nikolai Korovin 17 June 2020 12: 28
    +1
    Physicians and biologists I know unanimously say that as long as 30% of the population will be in public places without masks and gloves, and look at 70% of masks with a grin (the proportion is about the same), the waves will smoothly flow one into another and in places especially intense outbreaks of the type in Dagestan will arise - until an effective vaccine is found and released in sufficient quantities to vaccinate most of the population. That is, next year, and it is not entirely clear exactly when. Yes, everyone is tired. But the mortality rate of 1,5 percent of the number of detected cases of infection, including asymptomatic ones, is, you know, not the flu, but much more serious. Although, of course, this is not the plague, cancer or cholera - this also cannot be denied. But if everyone throws off their masks at once and spits on everything, the death rate will be approximately the same as from cancer (last year there were about 300 cases in Russia). And the number of people of working age who have been out of action for a long time is 000-20 times more. Watch what is happening in the USA. Medicine will drown, and here you can not nod at "optimization" - much more specialized beds have been created than there were before "optimization". And so the cores and especially cancer patients were in a restrained position - they also constantly need CT and MRI. It became impossible to break through, at least for free. For a fee, probably everything is fine, but drive 30 for an examination - it's a shame if it's free. Still need to find where they will do it normally, and not give out bullshit. Paid - they are. And without a mask, you can walk in the country, in the park, on the street, if it is not very crowded - at least in Moscow and Moscow region, where the peak is still kind of passed. But in the country as a whole, no. In many regions, especially in St. Petersburg and Yekaterinburg, you should not hang out in parks intensively.