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Nightmare of France. Why did the French surrender so easily to Hitler

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Nightmare of France. Why did the French surrender so easily to Hitler

French prisoners of war


After Dunkirk, in fact, the Nazis did not have to fight: France was killed by fear. Horror swept the whole country. Instead of mobilizing and stiff resistance in the center of the country, fighting in the encirclement and big cities, while reserves are gathering in the south, the French chose to throw away the white flag and return to their old well-fed life.

Horror and panic


The fall of France happened almost the same as Belgium. The stunning defeat of the allies at the beginning of the campaign, the disaster of the best French divisions in Flanders. The shock and complete demoralization of French society and the army. If for the Belgians a stunning blow to consciousness was the fall of the “impregnable” fort Eben-Enamel and the defense line along the Albert Canal, then for France the Ardennes and Flanders became the same shock, the futility of the powerful and expensive Maginot line.

Before the start of the French campaign, the Germans conducted thorough reconnaissance and informational preparations. They studied French society, the state of the army, armored and artillery forces, defense systems and military industry. At the very beginning of the operation, German intelligence services hit the psychology of French society. On May 9-10, 1940, German agents staged a series of arson and sabotage. Weapon and explosives for saboteurs dropped airplanes of special Luftwaffe squadrons. The Germans, dressed in French uniforms, launched terrorist attacks in Abbeville, Reims, Dover and Paris. It is clear that they could not cause much damage. There were few saboteurs. However, the effect was powerful. The society began to panic, spy, searching for hidden agents and enemies. As previously in Holland and Belgium.

French society and the army came under information terror. Various scary rumors quickly spread throughout the country. Allegedly the ubiquitous "fifth column" operates throughout France. The troops are fired from houses, mysterious signals are transmitted. German paratroopers, who were practically not in France, land everywhere in the rear. Like, in the army they spread false orders. The officers who were to order the destruction of the bridges on Massa were killed by German saboteurs. In fact, the bridges blew up on time, the Nazis forced the river at hand.

As a result, masses of refugees swept the French army. Thousands of deserters joined them. Panic news hit the headquarters, rear and reserve units. German raids aviation exacerbated the chaos. Roads were clogged with crowds of people, abandoned weapons, equipment, wagons, military equipment.


German parade on the street of a French city


Abandoned french Tanks Hotchkiss H35 and Somua S35


German soldiers posing against the backdrop of the French giant tank Char 2C No. 99


The destroyed bridge in France

The collapse of the French army


On May 10, 1940, the German offensive in the West began. The allies at that moment had every opportunity to close the Ardennes. It was possible to allocate additional forces for the defense of this area, block, block the passages through the mountainous-wooded area. Throw additional aviation forces, bomb motorized columns of the enemy on narrow aisles and roads. As a result, the entire Hitler plan of the blitzkrieg was destroyed.

However, the Allies seemed to be blinded and unanimously fell into idiocy. On the eve of May 10, radio intelligence spotted the unusual activity of German stations in the Ardennes, where, as it seemed, there was a secondary section of the front. The Allies did not even conduct aerial reconnaissance of a dangerous direction. On the night of May 11, aerial reconnaissance discovered a motorized convoy in the Ardennes. The command considered this to be a "night illusion." The next day, aerial reconnaissance confirmed the data. Again, the command turned a blind eye to an obvious fact. Only on the 13th, having received a new series of aerial photographs, did the allies catch up and take up bombers in the air to bomb the enemy. But it was too late.

The boundary of the Meuse was to be held by the 9th French Army. The Germans appeared before her three days earlier than the French expected. It was a real shock to the French. In addition, they were already frightened by the stories of crowds of refugees and fleeing Belgian soldiers about the myriad hordes of German tanks. The French 9th Army consisted of minor divisions into which the reservists were called up (the best units were thrown to Belgium). The troops had few anti-tank weapons, and anti-aircraft cover was weak. The mechanized divisions of the French were in Belgium. And then the tanks and diving Yu-87 hit the French. Goering's pilots seized dominance in the air, mixed the French with the ground. Under their cover, tank divisions crossed the river. And there was nothing to meet them.

The hasty attempts of the French to put together a rear defensive line beyond the Meuse failed. Parts of the 2nd and 9th French armies were mixed, turned into crowds of refugees. The soldiers dropped their weapons and fled. Many demoralized groups were led by officers. The territory between Paris and the direction of the tank attack of the Germans drowned in chaos. Hundreds of thousands of refugees, soldiers from scattered, demoralized divisions rushed here. The panic actually destroyed two French armies. In Paris itself at that time they knew practically nothing about the situation on the northern sector of the front. Communication with the troops was lost. The command tried to find out the situation by ringing the postal and telegraph offices of those settlements where, according to proposals in the capital, the Nazis were moving. The news, often false, was late, and the French could not correctly respond to the threat.


Wehrmacht mobile command post. In the center of Heinz Guderian, at the bottom left is the Enigma encryption machine. The photo was taken on board the Sd.Kfz radio-controlled armored personnel carrier. 251/3


French guns captured by the Germans. In the foreground - 155/155 howitzers 13/XNUMX


Captured French Airfield

Thus, on May 15, the tanks of Kleist and Guderian broke through the defenses of the French. German mobile units took risks, did not wait for the infantry. The tanks rushed west, they raced along the highway, almost without resistance. After 5 km in 350 days, Guderian’s corps reached the English Channel on May 20. For the Allies, this was like a nightmare: the best French divisions and the expeditionary British army were cut off in Belgium and Flanders, deprived of communications. The Germans took a huge risk. If the Allies had competent command, initiative and brave commanders, prepared reserves in advance, then the breakthrough of the German tank divisions turned into a “cauldron" and a disaster for them, and Berlin had to put up urgently or surrender. However, the German commanders took a huge risk and won.

The French General Staff was paralyzed by the collapse of the entire outdated war strategy, the schemes of the times of the First World War, a mobile war not provided for in textbooks. France was not ready for the German blitzkrieg, the massive actions of the Panzervaffe and Luftwaffe. Although the French witnessed the Polish campaign and had an example of a mobile war. The French general underestimated the enemy. The French lived in the past, but got an adversary from the future.

The Germans were not afraid to concentrate tanks in attack groups. The Allies had more tanks than the Nazis, and the French tanks were better, more powerful. But the bulk of the French tanks was distributed between divisions, along the front. The mobile formations of the Germans acted swiftly, in isolation from the infantry. The slow adversary simply did not have time to react to a change in the operational situation. The flanks of the German armored divisions were open, but there was no one to strike at them. And when the Allies came to their senses somewhat, the Germans already managed to cover the flanks.

In addition, Goering aviation defended the flanks of tank divisions. The Luftwaffe was able to suppress the French Air Force with skillful attacks on airfields and a frantic intensity of sorties. German bombers attacked the railways, highways, and places of concentration of troops. With their blows they cleared the way for armored columns. On May 14, to prevent the enemy from crossing the Meuse, the Allies threw almost all air forces to the crossings. A fierce battle began to boil in the air. The Anglo-French were defeated. Air supremacy has become an important trump card for the Germans. Also, German aircraft became a real psi weapon. Howling dive-bombers became a nightmare for the French and British soldiers, for civilians who fled in droves inland into the country.

The millionth allied group was blocked by the sea. Weak counterattack attempts by the Germans fended off. The British decided that it was time to run overseas. The Belgian army surrendered. German tanks could crush stunned and demoralized enemies. However, Hitler stopped the moving parts, they were brought into the second line, they began to pull up artillery and tanks. They entrusted the rout of the Dunkirk group to Goering's hawks. As a result, most of the British escaped from the trap. The “Dunkirk Miracle” was caused by two main reasons. First, Hitler and his generals did not yet believe that the battle for France had already been won. It seemed that there was still a fierce battle for Central France. Tanks are needed to continue the campaign. Secondly, the Nazi elite did not want British blood. It was a kind of gesture of goodwill so that after the surrender of France, Germany and England could come to an agreement. And the extermination and capture of the British army in the Dunkirk region would harden the British elite and society. Therefore, the British nipped and allowed them to leave.

The catastrophe in the Ardennes and Flanders broke the French military-political leadership. Commander-in-Chief Weigan, with the support of the “Verdun Lion” Peten, was already thinking about surrender. The French elite (with rare exceptions) refused resistance and did not raise the people to battle to the last drop of blood, refused the possibility of evacuating the government, part of the army, reserves, reserves and fleet from the mother country to the colony to continue the struggle.


German tank Pz.Kpfw. IV during the crossing of the river Meuse in the area of ​​the French city of Sedan


Soldiers of the motorized division of the SS "Dead Head" at a halt in France


Captured French tankers pull their dead comrades out of the wrecked tanks (judging by the fact that the prisoners on their faces have handkerchiefs to protect them from the smell of decomposition). The Germans often used prisoners for such "dirty" work. Tanks in the picture - French medium tanks Char D2


German diving bombers "Junkers" U-87 from the Immelman squadron (StG2 "Immelmann") in the sky of France

Refugees paralyzed the country


After Dunkirk, in fact, the Nazis did not have to fight. France was killed by fear. Horror swept the whole country. The press, describing various nightmares, mostly invented, false, involuntarily worked for Hitler. First, the French were treated with a series of rumors from Holland and Belgium, then a wave of horror from France itself went. Dozens of paratrooper scouts have turned into hundreds and thousands. The French simply raved about with German paratroopers, who captured entire cities from them. Small groups of agents and spies, who carried out several sabotage, turned into the ubiquitous and multi-thousandth “fifth column”.

On the night of May 15-16, Paris learned about the defeat of the 9th Army. The road to the capital was open. Then they still did not know that German tanks would rush to the coast, and not to Paris. An animal panic began in the city. Masses rushed out of the city. Nobody thought about the defense of the capital of France. Taxis disappeared - people ran to them. The government made panicky statements, exacerbating the chaos. So, on May 21, Prime Minister Paul Reynaud announced that the bridges over the Meuse were not blown up due to inexplicable errors (in fact, they were destroyed). The head of government spoke of false news, of treason, sabotage and cowardice. General Korap called the commander of the 9th Army a traitor (later the general was acquitted).

This hysteria spurred general madness. Traitors and agents have been seen everywhere. Millions of people poured from north and east to northwest, west and south of France. We ran on trains, buses, taxis, carts and on foot. The panic took the form of "save, who can!" Normandy, Brittany and Southern France were crammed with people. Trying to cope with human waves, the French Civil Defense Corps, hastily created on May 17, began to block roads. They tried to check refugees, searched for agents and saboteurs. As a result, a new wave of fear and monstrous traffic jams on major roads.

In fact, France capitulated out of fear. Instead of mobilizing and stiff resistance in the center of the country, fighting in the encirclement and big cities, while reserves are gathering in the south, the French chose to throw away the white flag and return to their old well-fed life. In fact, the Reich could not fight for a long time at the same pace. Everything was built on the basis of lightning war. The German economy was not mobilized, military supplies and fuel were already running out. Germany could not continue the battle on the ruins of France.

However, the advancing German divisions almost did not meet strong and organized resistance. Although the large cities of France, if there were combat-ready units and decisive, tough commanders like de Gaulle, could have detained the enemy for a long time. Obviously, the Germans themselves did not expect such an effect from a combination of informational, psychological and military methods of war. Neither the massive bombing of cities, nor the demonstrative pogroms of individual cities in the spirit of Warsaw and Rotterdam, nor the psychic threatening flights of bombers, like over Copenhagen and Oslo, were needed. The French were paralyzed. Moreover, Hitler did not have modern tools to suppress and enslave people (such as the Internet network, CNN and BBC networks). The Germans managed with relatively simple means and won.

In France, as previously in Belgium, a mental catastrophe occurred. Any strange phenomenon was attributed to spies. Many foreigners were suspected of being “enemy agents” and suffered. Panic and fear gave rise to hallucinations and aggression. Many French were sure that they saw paratroopers (which were not). Civilians, and indeed soldiers, foiled their fear on the innocent, who fell under the hot hand, and who were mistaken for paratroopers and spies. In some cases, monks and priests were persecuted. The press wrote that in Holland and Belgium, paratroopers and enemy agents dressed in the clothes of the clergy. It happened that the peasants beat the French and British pilots who escaped from the downed planes.

Thousands of people in France were arrested, deported and imprisoned. They were mistaken for representatives of the “fifth column”. German citizens, Flemish and Breton nationalists, Alsatians, foreigners in general, Jews (including refugees from Germany), communists, anarchists and all the "suspicious" were in its ranks. Concentration camps were organized for them in France. In particular, such camps were created in the area of ​​the Pyrenees. When Italy entered the war on Hitler’s side on June 10, thousands of Italians were thrown into camps. Tens of thousands of people were arrested. Some were thrown into prisons and sent to concentration camps, others were sent to labor battalions and the Foreign Legion (large French penal battalion), and others to the mines of Morocco.

Thus, fear and panic broke France. They made the French elite capitulate. The huge military-economic potential of the country and the colonial empire were not used to fight not for life, but for death. Hitler defeated by relatively small forces and minimal losses. The former leading power of Western Europe has fallen. The Hitlerites got an entire country almost without loss, with cities and industry, ports and transport infrastructure, supplies and arsenals. This victory inspired the Nazis unprecedentedly. They felt like invincible warriors, before whom the whole world trembles, for which there are no more barriers. In Germany itself, Hitler was deified.

The Führer showed the Germans that a war might not be protracted, bloody and hungry, but swift and easy. Victory in the West was achieved with minimal losses, material costs, without mobilization tension. For most of Germany, nothing had changed at that time, a peaceful life continued. Hitler was at the pinnacle of fame, he was adored. Even the German generals, who were terribly afraid of the war with France and England and plotted against the Fuhrer, now forgot about their plans and celebrated the victory.


German soldiers with captured French reconnaissance bomber Amiot 143


Captured French soldiers, among them several blacks from the French colonial units


A column of captured French soldiers. Among them are many Africans from the French colonial units.


Wehrmacht soldiers "wash" the rewards received for the campaign in France
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Articles from this series:
Blitzkrieg in the West

Blitzkrieg in the West. How the Holland, Belgium and France fell
Psychological warfare. How the Germans stormed the "Holland Fortress"
Capture of Eben-Enamel. The assault on Belgium
Tank Battle of Annu
Hitler's “Stop Order”. Why German tanks did not crush the British army
How the Duce tried to take over southern France
Red plan. How France fell
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  1. Basil50
    Basil50 16 June 2020 06: 07 New
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    Thanks to the author. Very interesting
    It is much more interesting that these same French from the French army immediately went to serve the Nazis and at once felt invincible. Somehow they suddenly became employees not of a broken army, but of a victorious army.
    And how did these French atrocities on the * eastern front *. As they began to boast of their belonging to * Aryans *.
    But after their owner was destroyed, all of these suddenly declared themselves * resistance *. Even those who committed atrocities by killing SOVIET citizens, even those who pacified slaves in the colonies. They all suddenly became * resistance *, and even began to hang orders and medals to each other.
    And how did the same French then destroy the Germans, on those lands that they grabbed. They destroyed the very Germans before whom they reverently and sincerely worshiped.
  2. Korsar4
    Korsar4 16 June 2020 06: 07 New
    +6
    How much tougher we had.
    1. zenion
      zenion 20 June 2020 13: 43 New
      +2
      It is clear to everyone why they gave up quickly. To spoil Hitler’s mood, that he would have nothing to boast about. Like, they rested, but we still put them cancer. And then fig with poppy. They came, and all the French are already cancer. So do not kiss them in cancer. The Germans spat and scattered around the pubs and cinemas. And the custodians began to give a plan and almost thwarted the economy of the Germans, they did not have enough stamps to pay for their products. And they began to pay them in storage.
      1. Sunstorm
        Sunstorm 21 June 2020 14: 30 New
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        And didn’t you write the script for "sparkling" "To Paris" for an hour?
  3. Pavel73
    Pavel73 16 June 2020 06: 19 New
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    All this is true, but this is not the main thing. All of Europe capitulated to Hitler primarily because he promised to go east. All that happened in France is nothing more than a punishment for the Versailles shame, and ensuring the rear of Germany before the eastern campaign. The French, like the rest of Europe, simply had no reason to seriously fight against Hitler. They were not threatened with physical extermination and clearing of "living space". The whole war that we know today under the name "World War II" was originally conceived and prepared specifically against Russia. And Europe before Hitler only broke a little, like a damsel. For decency.
    1. Octopus
      Octopus 16 June 2020 11: 45 New
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      Quote: Pavel73
      All Europe capitulated to Hitler primarily because he promised to go east

      Let me remind you that in the spring of 40th, England and France are considering options for attacking the USSR. The USSR has a very peculiar neutrality.
      Quote: Pavel73
      there was simply no reason for any serious war against Hitler

      France and Germany are two of Europe’s most warring countries.
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 16 June 2020 11: 57 New
        +2
        We have to repeat: this is just a squabble for power in Europe. There was no talk of any conquest of the territory of France under “living space,” and even more so about the extermination of its population. Hitler has repeatedly stated that they, the Nazis, cease their movement to the west and south of Europe, and turn to the east, and specifically to Russia, which is "a colossus with feet of clay." As for France, it is an enemy that must be punished and secured. And nothing more. France and Germany are not a war. This is bickering.
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 16 June 2020 12: 28 New
          -20
          Quote: Pavel73
          more about the extermination of its population and there was no question. Hitler has repeatedly stated that they, the Nazis, cease their movement to the west and south of Europe, and turn to the east, and specifically to Russia, which is “a colossus with feet of clay.

          Wow, what nasty things Hitler said.

          And comrade Molotov, who came to Berlin in November 40 to share the world, did he hear everything?
          1. Pavel73
            Pavel73 16 June 2020 16: 15 New
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            And comrade Molotov and comrade Stalin, of course, everyone heard that. And seeing that the rest of the West had agreed with Hitler a long time ago, they delayed the inevitable German attack on us as they could. We managed to win two years. During this time, were created: T-34, KV, IL-2, Yak-1, PPSh, BM-13, and much more of what will later be called the weapon of Victory. And no one "shared" any world.
            1. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 17 June 2020 10: 05 New
              -13
              All the pathos rhetoric is expectedly reduced to mantras about the genius of Comrade Stalin, "under-rearmament" and other poster stamps. Have you ever crawled out of your mental tunnel? Have you tried to look a little wider?
              1. Pavel73
                Pavel73 17 June 2020 10: 35 New
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                And here is the genius of Stalin? Stalin was just sane. That is why he did not expect a German attack on June 22, 1941. But Hitler was not sane. That is why he attacked us. The actions of a fool are unpredictable. And nothing to do with "under-rearmament." The crash of June 1941, just like December 1941 for the Americans, is caused by the same reason: no one was expecting an attack either on this particular day or in the coming days.
                1. Dr. Frankenstucker
                  Dr. Frankenstucker 17 June 2020 12: 44 New
                  -6
                  Quote: Pavel73
                  Stalin was just sane. That is why he did not expect a German attack on June 22, 1941

                  Ingenious. Top of sanity
                  Quote: Pavel73
                  The crash of June 1941, just like December 1941 for the Americans, is caused by one and the same reason: no one expected the attack either on this particular day or in the coming days.

                  Enough of these talk about 'treachery' already. For those preparing to fight the country, all these excuses are nothing more than a miserable babble of a loser.
                  And it is not correct, kmk, to compare the disaster of the Red Army of 1941 with the action of the imperial fleet in PX, neither in scale nor in hypothetical consequences.
                  1. Pavel73
                    Pavel73 17 June 2020 13: 04 New
                    +1
                    It’s very correct, and the consequences are very similar: after 4 years we could not cope with the Germans, and the Americans could not cope with the Japanese for 4 years. And "treachery" has nothing to do with it either: we knew perfectly well that the Germans would attack. That's just on June 22, 1941, no one was waiting for this attack. Neither June 22, nor in the coming days. The argument is reinforced concrete: the Germans are biting with the British, now they are not up to us. That's when they finish, then you can expect an attack at any time. And it is possible that they will attack along with the very English with whom they were just biting.
                    1. Octopus
                      Octopus 17 June 2020 20: 08 New
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                      Quote: Pavel73
                      Americans 4 years could not cope with the Japanese

                      Japanese and Germans.

                      But what does America have to do with it? Do you generally understand how little in common the USA and the USSR had for the 41st year?
                      1. Pavel73
                        Pavel73 17 June 2020 20: 12 New
                        +1
                        I am not talking about the similarity of the USSR and the USA for 41 years, but about the similarity of situations with the attack of enemies. Both we and the Americans were in absolute confidence that the enemy would not dare to attack. For which they paid.
                      2. Octopus
                        Octopus 18 June 2020 00: 48 New
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                        Quote: Pavel73
                        but about the similarity of situations with the attack of enemies

                        Ugums. The circumstances really surprisingly coincide, but it is much funnier than you would like.

                        What President Roosevelt just did not do to get into this war. In general, he did everything, except for two little things that he forgot about. America did not have an army or a fleet (yes, there was no fleet either, all of a sudden).

                        Quote: Pavel73
                        Both we and the Americans were in absolute confidence that the enemy would not dare to attack.

                        And you, I see, generally with no concept of circumstances, that June 22, that PX.
                      3. Pavel73
                        Pavel73 18 June 2020 04: 51 New
                        +1
                        I'm with a concept. But you, I see, no.
                      4. IC
                        IC 20 June 2020 00: 12 New
                        +1
                        The general is only the complete distribution of political and military leadership. The difference is that the Americans did not notice the squadron in the ocean, the USSR more than a hundred divisions under their noses. And the result, the loss of part of the fleet’s ships, on the other hand, the defeat of the army, millions of prisoners and the enemy near Moscow
                      5. Octopus
                        Octopus 20 June 2020 09: 03 New
                        0
                        Quote: IMS
                        General only complete distribution

                        I mean a wider context. Politicians of both countries cooked very steep porridge, completely failing the actual military aspect of the work. As for PX, this is a minor nuisance amid the fact that the Army did not know and did not want to know about the plans of the fleet, and vice versa.

                        The plans of the fleet did not imply any protection for the Philippines. Army plans did not involve evacuation from there.
                2. MORDVIN13rus
                  MORDVIN13rus 18 June 2020 22: 25 New
                  +1
                  Is it the same valiant Yankees before the age of 44 they fought with the Germans?
                3. Octopus
                  Octopus 19 June 2020 00: 30 New
                  -1
                  Quote: MORDVIN13rus
                  Is it the same valiant Yankees before the age of 44 they fought with the Germans?

                  You won’t believe it, but in March of the year 41, Roosevelt’s understanding of the word “neutrality” reached the supply of one of the warring parties at the expense of the US government. Somewhat earlier, they began to take part in the war. volunteers retaining the rank and position in the US Armed Forces. See miners, tractor drivers and their endless ammo.

                  By the way, what did the USSR do in March of the 41st?
                4. MORDVIN13rus
                  MORDVIN13rus 23 June 2020 22: 01 New
                  0
                  So all the same, the question can be answered, in what battles did the USA Supreme Army take part against the Wehrmacht, before 44 years old?
                5. Octopus
                  Octopus 24 June 2020 05: 56 New
                  0
                  You see, dear friend.

                  Until the 44th year, the Navy did not take part, but kicked one of the three Axis countries from the war. Yes, not only, to put it mildly, by military feats, they achieved this, but nevertheless provided the result.

                  As regards battles, a small contribution to the treasury of knowledge.

                  In the Battle of Stalingrad, the Wehrmacht lost about 350 thousand people (6A, 4TA, GA Don) *.

                  In Tunisia (where is it? What is this?) Wehrmacht lost approx. 250 thousand in common.

                  Live now with this.

                  * If you have a desire to send me German losses to the ruvik - no need.
                6. MORDVIN13rus
                  MORDVIN13rus 24 June 2020 19: 58 New
                  -2
                  You forgot how to read Russian, that you do not understand the meaning of the words, I can write you in German, French, well, or in my own language. I asked you a specific question, so why are you trying to answer? Or now this feature of all liberalists.
                7. Octopus
                  Octopus 24 June 2020 22: 07 New
                  +1
                  First of all, dear Mordvin13, it is customary to turn to strangers in Fido and Tyder for “you”. So you went a little in the wrong place.

                  Secondly, if you know nothing about the African and Italian campaigns of the Allies, you can find out for yourself. There is no need to copy wikis here.
                8. MORDVIN13rus
                  MORDVIN13rus 24 June 2020 22: 38 New
                  -2
                  I know very well that only on a direct concrete question, there was no direct and concrete answer. It started:

                  Quote:
                  You will not believe it, but in March of the 41st year, the Roosevelt understanding of the word "neutrality" reached the supply of one of the belligerents at the expense of the US government. Somewhat earlier, volunteers began to take part in the war, maintaining the rank and position in the US Armed Forces. See miners, tractor drivers and their endless ammo.

                  By the way, what did the USSR do in March of the 41st?

                  You see, dear friend.

                  Until the 44th year, the Navy did not take part, but kicked one of the three Axis countries from the war. Yes, not only, to put it mildly, by military feats, they achieved this, but nevertheless provided the result.

                  As regards battles, a small contribution to the treasury of knowledge.

                  In the Battle of Stalingrad, the Wehrmacht lost about 350 thousand people (6A, 4TA, GA Don) *.

                  In Tunisia (where is it? What is this?) Wehrmacht lost approx. 250 thousand in common.

                  Live now with this.

                  * If you have a desire to send me German losses to the ruvik - no need.
  4. Bobrovsky
    Bobrovsky 18 September 2020 18: 09 New
    0
    They were waiting. On the night of June 17-18, 1941, a directive was sent to the border districts on bringing the troops to combat readiness and on the forthcoming, within the next five days, Germany's attack on the USSR.
  • mmaxx
    mmaxx 24 June 2020 05: 24 New
    0
    And here is one question. At least someone could normally resist at least someone in the event of an unexpected attack? Not even in World War II?
  • Alexander Yusupov
    Alexander Yusupov 2 August 2020 08: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Pavel73
    more about the extermination of its population and there was no question. Hitler has repeatedly stated that they, the Nazis, cease their movement to the west and south of Europe, and turn to the east, and specifically to Russia, which is “a colossus with feet of clay.

    Wow, what nasty things Hitler said.

    And comrade Molotov, who came to Berlin in November 40 to share the world, did he hear everything?
    _______________________
    And he had a CHOICE, not to come?
    Even 1 day of NOT WAR for the USSR was worth the weight of diamonds, in the end it was necessary to fight for YOURSELF and the cowardly coves of Europe.
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 16 June 2020 16: 21 New
    +6
    And “considering options” is liberal demagogy. They have intentions - that’s the main thing. They had no such intentions. But they did everything for Hitler to attack us. And only Churchill understood that if the Nazis defeated us, then England would be the next victim after Russia.
  • onizhe
    onizhe 17 June 2020 17: 01 New
    0
    Especially for Alsace and Lorraine. The first clashes over these territories began at the end of the XNUMXth and beginning of the XNUMXth centuries. It was no accident that Petain presented the course of world history as an eternal Franco-German confrontation.
  • zenion
    zenion 20 June 2020 13: 47 New
    0
    Right! When the phrase-writers started a revolution in 1870, the bourgeoisie of the Storage called the Germans and they quickly killed everything. They shot a lot of custodians, but did not touch the bourgeois. Thus, the bourgeois received the Storage back, and the Germans received money for the work.
  • Cheldon
    Cheldon 16 June 2020 06: 20 New
    +2
    "The Germans took a huge risk" - acted according to the Suvorov formula: eye, speed, onslaught.
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 06: 34 New
    15
    Thousands of people in France were arrested, deported and imprisoned. They were mistaken for representatives of the “fifth column”. German citizens, Flemish and Breton nationalists, Alsatians, foreigners in general, Jews (including refugees from Germany), communists, anarchists and all the "suspicious" were in its ranks. Concentration camps were organized for them in France.[i] [/ i]


    And after all, no one in the "civilized" West is moaning about the terrible repressions of the French government against their citizens.
    1. avg avg
      avg avg 17 June 2020 04: 10 New
      +2
      But this is another matter, one must understand!
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 16 June 2020 06: 38 New
    -9
    The last time the French fought in 1812. Even commanded the French, shorty Corsican. Since then, they have a fear of every army. They would have to drink a vinyl, but aunts on Versailles, clamp. Not warriors. They do not have a historical code for the "host". And their vaunted foreign legion is able to fight only with the baboons. The Germans are another thing .....
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 06: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      The last time the French fought in 1812.


      Crimean war does not count?
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 16 June 2020 06: 54 New
        -5
        Nope, not counting. There the British commanded, despite the fact that the French seemed to have a commander in chief (present).
        In general, that war was amazing. British-French-Italians fought in the North, the Baltic, the Far East and the Black Sea. Wash your blood everywhere. Including the Black Sea. But the king with his foreign minister, who was an Austrian subject, decided to surrender.
        And so the French participated in this war, did not suppress slaves in the colonies, but actually fought in 1945. When defended Berlin with Hitler.
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 08: 25 New
          +8
          Hmm, interesting t.z. I will not argue, perhaps I will remain with my opinion. You can of course recall the Franco-Prussian war, but there the French apparently also did not fight .... hi
          1. akunin
            akunin 16 June 2020 14: 54 New
            +3
            I’ll continue your thought, you can add the first world war to all of the above (8 million fought, more than a million died in France, and even with the Germans). hi
        2. Ryazan87
          Ryazan87 16 June 2020 12: 17 New
          +2
          In general, that war was amazing.

          Only your ideas about her are more surprising. Share evidence of how James Simpson commanded Pelisier’s actions? Well, you obviously know the orders of Lord Raglan to Marshal Saint Arno. Yes, it pulls on a doctor’s. Tarle, Zayonchkovsky and Bogdanovich bite their elbows.
          And so the French participated in this war, did not suppress slaves in the colonies, but actually fought in 1945. When defended Berlin with Hitler.

          Well, that’s the 19th century. Under Verdun in 1916 there was still "not real", the Germans were fake.
          1. Basil50
            Basil50 16 June 2020 13: 49 New
            +2
            87
            About the war in the Crimea, there are many things that the British and French wrote. It is especially worth paying attention to the complaints of the French on HOW exactly the British USED the French. Instructive
            About Franco-Prussian, too, a lot of things can be found and all this does not paint the French. To defend their own homeland, they were NOT IN STATE, and then it was: both surrender and payment of indemnity.
            About how the French fought in the WWI, it also reminds one very much of an operetta, especially in the light of rowing from slave colonies under a gun, well, at the same time, they demanded from Nikolai No. 2 RUSSIAN troops, recalling debts.
            It is especially disgusting that RUSSIAN soldiers and officers were commanded as their own slaves recruited in the colonies.
            1. Ryazan87
              Ryazan87 16 June 2020 14: 29 New
              +1
              50-ve
              About the war in the Crimea, there are many things that the British and French wrote. It is especially worth paying attention to the complaints of the French on HOW exactly the British USED the French. Instructive

              So I'm not opposed, share the information. How exactly the British led the French troops during the Crimean campaign. Any field battle to choose from, assaults, siege works. At the same time, it will not be difficult for you to illustrate the cowardice of the French, who "only know how to fight with blacks." You can even exclusively on Russian sources. And yes, the British also complained about the French. Both complained about the Turks. AND?
              Well, we will not take the war with the Austrians of 1859 either, "this is the Austrians."
              About Franco-Prussian, too, a lot of things can be found and all this does not paint the French.

              like any defeat does not color the losers. It depends on what to look for. The soldiers and junior officers fought excellently, which the Prussians themselves admitted. By the way, it was in 1870 that the French had a massive gathering of militias, a government of national defense, a long siege of the capital, and a war in the center of the country. This is what made it possible to conclude a world that was difficult but unconditional surrender cannot be called.
              about how the French fought in WWI, too, very much like an operetta

              Well, if you Marne, Somme, Verdun resemble an operetta, then you have some strange idea of ​​this genre.
              Well the rest is your emotions, sorry.
            2. Dr. Frankenstucker
              Dr. Frankenstucker 17 June 2020 18: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Vasily50
              About how the French fought in WWI, too, very much an operetta reminds


              one must be either a moron or a scoundrel to blurt out such a thing.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 June 2020 08: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        Crimean war does not count?

        Why, then, all in the count, as well as the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, when the Prussians broke the French like a "Tusik warmer." Perhaps this fear was transmitted to the French during WWII.
      3. victor50
        victor50 16 June 2020 17: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        The last time the French fought in 1812.


        Crimean war does not count?

        And the first world?
    2. strannik1985
      strannik1985 16 June 2020 07: 26 New
      21
      Last time, the French fought in 1812

      World War I looks at you in bewilderment.
      1. Octopus
        Octopus 16 June 2020 11: 58 New
        -1
        The Soviet people did not have the first world war.
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 16 June 2020 11: 59 New
          +1
          Read carefully, the original post about the French.
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 16 June 2020 12: 31 New
            +3
            I do not argue with you. It also amuses me when the Russians talk about the pacifists of the French.
        2. sevryuk
          sevryuk 16 June 2020 23: 13 New
          0
          "The Soviet people did not have World War I."
          And the Russians? When did the "people get tired" and rushed to divide the land of the landowners?
    3. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 16 June 2020 08: 11 New
      11
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      shorty corsican

      Napoleon's height is 169 cm. In our times, average (because acceleration), so tall man. "Shorty" he looked except that against the background of his grenadiers, which selected exclusively high recruits.
    4. smaug78
      smaug78 16 June 2020 09: 03 New
      +4
      How cute PMV forgot ...
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 16 June 2020 11: 10 New
        10
        Quote: smaug78
        How cute PMV forgot ...

        This is a statistical error that should not shake the coherent theory of French cowardice. smile
        1. smaug78
          smaug78 16 June 2020 11: 45 New
          +2
          And don’t say they’re like conspirators ...
    5. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 16 June 2020 12: 06 New
      +3
      Well, you are bent, but what about the First World War?
    6. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 17 June 2020 10: 07 New
      -1
      n ... c, historian from God.
    7. alone
      alone 17 June 2020 12: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      The last time the French fought in 1812.

      belay And what about the First World War?
      1. Dr. Frankenstucker
        Dr. Frankenstucker 17 June 2020 13: 52 New
        0
        And with Franco-Prussian?
        1. alone
          alone 17 June 2020 14: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Dr. Frankenstucker
          And with Franco-Prussian?

          And besides this, there are a lot of colonial raids, where the troops also waged war
  • strannik1985
    strannik1985 16 June 2020 07: 32 New
    +3
    It remains to find out from the author the defense of which cities delayed the advancing enemy, for how long (not to mention the required resources) does the author consider it possible to form and minimum combat training of new units / formations?
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 10: 15 New
      +6
      France began to fight Germany not in May 1940, but in September 1939. For eight months the so-called A “strange” war could be strengthened and reserves trained and prepared. Everything could be done if desired.
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 16 June 2020 11: 04 New
        +4
        France began to fight Germany not in May 1940, but in September 1939.

        Exactly! And not since September 1939, but with the remilitarization of the Rhine region, it was possible to prepare for a conflict with the Reich. In their situation, measures had to be taken before MAY 1940, then it was too late, the experience of the spacecraft in the summer and winter of 1941 was not suitable for the French. Order beats the class, ceteris paribus personal courage cannot defeat better organization.
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 16 June 2020 12: 18 New
          +3
          Quote: strannik1985
          And not since September 1939, but with the remilitarization of the Rhine region, it was possible to prepare for a conflict with the Reich

          They were getting ready. Since September 39th, the government of Daladier was measured on Reynaud. Since March 36th, remilitarization, they have changed another 6 governments.

          You do not understand what mess is going on in the third republic. For WWI, they managed to change 7 governments, how they won with such pies in general - it is not clear.
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 16 June 2020 12: 20 New
            -1
            They were getting ready.

            And all these governments treated Germany the same way - they allowed to occupy Austria, Czechoslovakia, surrendered Poland. Face preparation.
            1. Octopus
              Octopus 16 June 2020 12: 39 New
              +2
              Most of these governments did not have time to remember where whose office. Daladier, whom Munich is fond of remembering, held his post for half a year at that time, and in two and a half years of premiership he changed 3 members of the government.
  • pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 16 June 2020 07: 37 New
    +2
    The German sergeant major defeated the French petty owner, the bourgeois. A European is personally brave only when he doesn’t have anything for it. Will remain a whole bistro in Montmartre, or a house in the “Larks, with a cow and a hog” - that’s what the Frenchman was thinking. Russian man is a poor fatalist, and from this it seems to any foreigner unknowable. And all incomprehensible causes fear. We have an inexplicable thirst for destruction in science and fanatical obstinacy. I think the whole World shudders, looking at the destroyed Donbass airport, and at the same stubborn Ukrainians (after all, they are also Russian) in Debaltseve ...
    1. strannik1985
      strannik1985 16 June 2020 07: 59 New
      +2
      A European personally brave only then

      And then adherents of such theories are cited as an example the summer - autumn company of the Wehrmacht in 1941 and srach begins. Indeed, in order to exchange territory for the army of the enemy, several “France” were required in size.
      1. pmkemcity
        pmkemcity 16 June 2020 09: 39 New
        +9
        Quote: strannik1985
        and srach begins.

        General Gunter Blumentritt, chief of staff of the 4 Army: “The behavior of the Russians, even in the first battle, was strikingly different from the behavior of the Poles and allies who were defeated on the Western Front. Even being in the circle of encirclement, the Russians stubbornly defended themselves. ”
        The author of the book writes: “The experience of the Polish and Western campaigns suggested that the success of the blitzkrieg strategy was to gain advantages by more skillful maneuvering. Even if you leave the resources outside the brackets, morale and the will to resist the enemy will inevitably be broken under the pressure of enormous and meaningless losses. From here logically follows the mass surrender of those who were surrounded by demoralized soldiers. In Russia, these “elementary” truths were turned upside down by a desperate, sometimes reaching fanaticism, Russian resistance in seemingly hopeless situations. That is why half of the Germans' offensive potential did not go to advance towards the set goal, but to consolidate the existing successes. ”
        One of the soldiers of Army Group Center on August 20 lamented: "The losses are terrible, do not compare with those that were in France." Starting July 23, his company took part in the battles for “Tank Highway No. 1”. “Today our road, tomorrow the Russians take it, then again we, and so on. I have never seen anyone meaner than these Russians. Real chain dogs! You never know what to expect from them. And where do tanks and everything else come from? ”
        Major General Hoffmann von Waldau, chief of staff of the Luftwaffe command 9 days after the start of the war, wrote in his diary: "The quality level of Soviet pilots is much higher than expected ... Fierce resistance, its mass character does not correspond to our initial assumptions." This was confirmed by the first air rams. Kershaw quotes the words of one Luftwaffe colonel: “Soviet pilots are fatalists, they fight to the end without any hope of victory or even survival, driven either by their own fanaticism or by the fear of the commissars waiting for them on earth.”
        Tanker of the 12th Panzer Division Hans Becker: “On the Eastern Front, I met people who can be called a special race. Already the first attack turned into a battle not for life, but for death. ”
        The following episodes made a depressing impression on the advancing troops: after a successful breakthrough of the frontier defense, the 3rd battalion of the 18th infantry regiment of Army Group Center, numbering 800 people, was fired upon by a unit of 5 soldiers. “I did not expect anything like this,” Major Neuhof admitted to his battalion doctor, the battalion commander. “It is sheer suicide to attack the forces of the battalion with five fighters.”
        In mid-November 1941, one infantry officer of the 7th Panzer Division, when his unit burst into Russian-defended positions in a village near the Lama River, described the resistance of the Red Army. “You just won’t believe this until you see it with your own eyes. The soldiers of the Red Army, even burning alive, continued to shoot from the blazing houses. "
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 16 June 2020 10: 00 New
          +5
          General Gunther Blumentritt

          These are emotional evaluations. The numbers indicate the opposite. For example, the Germans launched Operation Gelb on May 10, at 31 they defeated the allies in northern France and pressed them to the sea, Duisburg – Dunkirk ~ 340 km, June 22, 1941 began Barbarossa by July 12, GA Klaipeda – Pskov ~ 585 km , GA "Center" Brest - Smolensk ~ 627 km, GA "South" Rava-Russian - Zhytomyr ~ 445 km.
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 16 June 2020 10: 15 New
            +3
            Quote: strannik1985
            GA "Center" Brest - Smolensk ~ 627 km

            Another 300 km to Moscow, and the Germans ran out.

            The Germans in all seriousness thought of the categories of European wars - generously treated France, Benelux and Poland, offered the honorary peace of England, and even resting against Russia, seriously considered the possibility of "peace enforcement." Only the British fascists quickly realized that if they did not destroy the German fascists now (by the hands of the Russians), then they would not pull the third world one, and they did not go to the world.
          2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
            Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 10: 27 New
            -3
            So this, the Germans often marched, in marching columns, so to speak, without encountering resistance, because there were no Soviet troops on their way. The Germans simply went around our fortified areas, taking them into the environment.
            So it is not necessary in this case to juggle kilometers. It is not right.
            1. strannik1985
              strannik1985 16 June 2020 10: 57 New
              +4
              It is not right.

              How will be correct? Losses are also not in favor of KA request
              1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
                Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 11: 05 New
                +3
                Losses are clearly not in favor of the SC. But for the spacecraft, unlike the French and its allies, 22.06.41 was definitely a surprise. But what if by the indicated date the spacecraft was mobilized and deployed according to dispositions? I understand that what happened cannot be changed, but to suppose nothing prevents us. I think the Germans would hardly have reached Moscow.
                1. strannik1985
                  strannik1985 16 June 2020 12: 04 New
                  -2
                  But what if by the indicated date the spacecraft was mobilized and deployed according to dispositions?

                  Better, but nothing good. Blind defense, especially on the fronts scale, has no prospects, see the Battle of Kursk (despite the fact that a large offensive group was sitting on the defensive).
                  Ideally, for the SC arr. 1941, it is necessary to launch an offensive to the Germans, then the Barbarossa will be frustrated, there will be time for mobilization, perhaps they will not abandon the MK.
                  1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
                    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 16 June 2020 12: 19 New
                    +2
                    What does “deaf” defense mean? The Red Army, even in the 41st, tried to counterattack the Germans whenever possible. Often these counterattacks, improperly trained, were worth a lot of losses, but the Germans were unsettled.
                    And in the end, it was strong defense that allowed the spacecraft to accumulate reserves and ultimately go on the offensive. They were not always successful, but often they were satisfied. Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk. Everywhere there was first defense.
                    I am sure that a spacecraft ready for war would fight at least as badly as taken by surprise by an army, which it was in the summer of 41.
                    1. EvilLion
                      EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 49 New
                      0
                      Just for reference, so-called. "strong defense" near Kursk was attacked in the weakest spot and wiped into powder in an extremely short time. Counterattacks saved the situation. In other places, there was simply no talk of defense densities comparable to Kursk.
                2. cat Rusich
                  cat Rusich 16 June 2020 20: 00 New
                  +4
                  By 22.06.1941, the Germans pulled 157 divisions and 12 brigades to the Soviet-German border - didn’t they notice? The attack was unexpected for the Supreme Headquarters - maybe the Germans thought they would start “pushing” and “asking for a cigarette” first - and they (the Germans) would immediately “feather to the side” ... on the example of the war in Europe in 1940 it was necessary to conclude that the Wehrmacht would start a war without a “buildup”, but what the USSR leadership was thinking about, I will not argue.
                  1. bubalik
                    bubalik 16 June 2020 21: 48 New
                    +5
                    ,,, yes there were plans, they did not have time to deploy.

                  2. EvilLion
                    EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 46 New
                    0
                    All noticed. Fur compounds appeared in June. About what, for example, there was a TASS message.
          3. Senior seaman
            Senior seaman 16 June 2020 11: 00 New
            +4
            What about this number?
            The war of Germany by the allies was declared in early September, and real hostilities began only in May. In other words, the preparation was 9 months.
            1. strannik1985
              strannik1985 16 June 2020 11: 07 New
              +2
              What about this figure?

              That's right, instead of territory and resources, the Allies had their advantages, which they, for various reasons, did not use. Reluctance to fight is just a convenient excuse for French politicians and generals, they also got the “wrong people” laughing
              1. Senior seaman
                Senior seaman 16 June 2020 11: 13 New
                0
                Quote: strannik1985
                instead of territory and resources from allies

                Actually with territory and resources in the British and French colonial empires, everything was very good. According to these criteria, any of them was quite comparable with the USSR, and only together ...
                1. strannik1985
                  strannik1985 16 June 2020 11: 20 New
                  0
                  According to these criteria, any of them was quite comparable with the USSR

                  Moreover, what is the question? laughing Was Free / Fighting France? It was. So the French did not give up request
                  1. Senior seaman
                    Senior seaman 16 June 2020 11: 38 New
                    +2
                    Quote: strannik1985
                    Was Free / Fighting France?

                    Yeah. three cripples in six lines.
          4. Operator
            Operator 16 June 2020 11: 49 New
            +9
            Do not replicate liberal agitation.

            The Germans launched an offensive operation against France after the last 10 months was at war, mobilized, received military assistance from Britain, etc. etc.

            The Germans attacked the USSR without declaring war, being completely mobilized in conditions of incomplete Soviet mobilization. At the same time, the multiple rear depth of the USSR in comparison with France was completely compensated by the multiple length of the Eastern Front, which allowed the Germans to tear it almost anywhere.

            And yes: the highest operational and average daily rates of an offensive in WWII were not demonstrated by the Wehrmacht (suddenly), but by the Red Army in the Vistula-Oder and Berlin operations - in the conditions of a short front and fierce resistance of the enemy in their territory prepared for defense.
          5. Viktor Sergeev
            Viktor Sergeev 16 June 2020 12: 17 New
            +4
            Do you know how the war in France differs from the USSR? First, in France there was a not very long front, which allowed the French to block dangerous sections, while the forces of France and the USSR at the beginning of the operations were approximately equal, and the front was different at times. Our entourage fought for weeks, months, drawing together the strength of the Germans. Is it worth talking about the surprise attack on the USSR? In the USSR, tanks broke from vast distances and marches, this was not the case in France, planes were assembled at several airfields, without fuel and ammunition, this was not the same in France.
            The Germans and the Pearls because there were no troops to block all directions, if the front were ten times smaller, the Germans would be bogged down immediately.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 June 2020 07: 48 New
    -2
    After Dunkirk, in fact, the Nazis did not have to fight: France was killed by fear. Horror swept the whole country.
    It turns out the caronavirus came to us from France in the 40s, and not from China.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 16 June 2020 08: 15 New
    +2
    m. Why did the French surrender so easily to Hitler

    because scary.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 16 June 2020 09: 22 New
      +4
      Because the French, for the most part, were not opposed to the idea of ​​the Hitlerite European Union.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 16 June 2020 08: 43 New
    12
    As one smart person said: “A French soldier is a disguised citizen, and a German citizen is a disguised soldier.”
    I apologize if I slightly changed the quote, I write from memory
  • svp67
    svp67 16 June 2020 08: 44 New
    +6
    Although the large cities of France, if there were combat-ready units and decisive, tough commanders like de Gaulle, could have detained the enemy for a long time.
    In any case, the defense of Liège gave reason to think so ... and even the defense of Lille showed that indeed
    it could happen, show perseverance
    Acceptance of the surrender of the French troops in Lille, after exhausting the possibilities of May 31, 1940 ...

  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 16 June 2020 09: 32 New
    +6
    = France’s nightmare. Why did the French surrender so easily to Hitler. =

    = However, the allies seemed to be blinded and unanimously fell into idiocy. On the eve of May 10, radio intelligence spotted the unusual activity of German stations in the Ardennes, where, as it seemed, there was a secondary section of the front. The Allies did not even conduct aerial reconnaissance of a dangerous direction. On the night of May 11, aerial reconnaissance discovered a motorized convoy in the Ardennes. The command considered this to be a "night illusion." The next day, aerial reconnaissance confirmed the data. Again, the command turned a blind eye to an obvious fact. Only on the 13th, having received a new series of aerial photographs, did the allies catch up and take off bombers to bomb the enemy. But it was too late. =
    I did not read the article further. I haven’t been reading fiction for about 20 years.
    Literature has already gotten out, besides a low cut, on the pages of VO.
    I would love to read a real study of the social and military-political causes of the defeat of France. Without unnecessary literature here - "The Allies didn’t even carry out aerial reconnaissance" - and right there - "At night (!!!) aerial reconnaissance discovered a motorized convoy" - oh yes the author!
    But in general, a masterpiece - "Again, the command turned a blind eye to an obvious fact" - continuous literature! "The command considered it to be = night illusion =" !!!!!!!
    In Soviet times, in the journal "Youth" articles were better printed, I'm not talking about "Young Technician" and "Technique of Youth"
  • Operator
    Operator 16 June 2020 09: 58 New
    0
    What kind of sensitive and vulnerable frogmen - it turns out, it is enough to spread in their midst only rumors about the enemy and they immediately raise their paws bully

    Everything was much simpler: most Frenchmen were simply eager to join the Third Reich - a complete analogue of the 9th century Frankish Empire led by Charlemagne, a monument to which was erected near Notre Dame Cathedral. After that, the Franks could take part in the robbery of the occupied Soviet Union - the historical heir of the Russian Empire, which defeated the French Empire in 1812 - 1814 and reduced its foreign policy role to a second-rate power.

    This is confirmed by the creation of the pro-German Vichy regime, the almost complete absence of national resistance in France after surrender (the main opponents of the Germans were French saboteurs - British intelligence officers and Soviet prisoners of war who fled the camps) and the active military operations of the French against the forces of the anti-Hitler coalition in the overseas territories of France.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 16 June 2020 16: 37 New
      +1
      Obviously, France MUST replenish and strengthen the Euro-Reich, according to the original plan of the forces that put Hitler and the false pseudo-Aryan doctrine on. “Privileged” Britain, as one of the 2 main “financial cities” of the Nazi project, was supposed to join Hitler as soon as it became clear that the Soviet Union was completely defeated. December 1941 changed geopolitical processes, forcing the "Anglo-Saxon" (in mandatory quotes) elite to take the "we will look" position, allowing the most arrogant part (the British have their own pride!) To engage in a more or less real war - fortunately, the Reich war machine "left" to Russia.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 16 June 2020 22: 23 New
      -1
      Quote: Operator

      Everything was much simpler: most Frenchmen were simply eager to join the Third Reich - a complete analogue of the 9th century Frankish Empire led by

      Andrei, this is too much. Can you imagine an ordinary French soldier who would "dream of joining ..."? Yesterday I fought a little more, but today I decided - let me join in. No. Everything is much more prosaic. The operational art of the Germans, their military training of both officers and ordinary, turned out to be better than French. Let's not forget about motivation. Revenge of the Germans, which was nurtured by the German agitation prop, for Versailles. Let us not forget the French government, which proved unable to organize resistance. Well, "cherry on the cake" - they did not have their 37 years. Therefore, Vichy appeared. Something like that in a nutshell. Of course, this is not all. But I’m not writing an article on the topic.
      1. Operator
        Operator 16 June 2020 23: 31 New
        0
        It was most of the frogmen who morally overstrained after the massive losses in WWI, and then their blood brothers (German Franks) made an offer that cannot be refused - to join the reincarnation of the Frankish Empire (aka Reich # 3), and even become its rear .

        Only the French WaffenSS volunteers will go to the Eastern Front, and not the French Wehrmacht draftees - the Lyapot from the point of view of the frogmen.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 17 June 2020 08: 23 New
          -1
          Quote: Operator
          and then their blood brothers (German francs) made an offer that cannot be refused - to join the reincarnation of the Frankish Empire (aka Reich # 3),

          Where and in what documents is this proposal recorded? tongue
          1. Operator
            Operator 17 June 2020 12: 01 New
            0
            Do you really think that the French elite just refused the German reparations, countermeasures against the militarization of the Rhine region, did not prevent the seizure of Austria and the Czech Republic before the start of WWII?

            Or, didn’t the essence of Germany’s proposal to fraternize with German francs and join the unified Frankish empire with serial number 3 clear to all the other Frenchmen after the start of WWII in clear text in propaganda broadcasts of German radio and leaflets at the front?
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 17 June 2020 13: 06 New
              0
              Quote: Operator

              Do you really think that the French elite just refused the German reparations, countermeasures against the militarization of the Rhine region, did not prevent the seizure of Austria and the Czech Republic before the start of WWII?

              Of course not. In your opinion, in order to -
              Quote: Operator
              join the reincarnation of the Frankish Empire (aka Reich # 3)

              And in my opinion the Anglo-Franks nurtured the Germans to fight the USSR
              Quote: Operator
              the text in the propaganda broadcasts of German radio and leaflets at the front did not explain the essence of the proposal

              You trust these flyers and radio programs so much that I began to worry about your health.
              Read German leaflets addressed to our fighters. Do you believe them too?
              Well, what about the Frankish Empire, why does France, so in your opinion, not wanting this, went to direct negotiations with Hitler with the goal of "reincarnation"?
              Did she lay thousands of her citizens resisting "reincarnation"?
              I got lost in the labyrinths of your logic.
              1. Operator
                Operator 17 June 2020 13: 12 New
                0
                It doesn’t matter if the Red Army believed in German agitation and propaganda in 1941, it is important whether the military personnel of the French army believed in it in 1940.

                Thousands of dead Frenchmen in WWII is a distraction, nothing more.

                So, therefore, the Anglo-Saxons and French Franks encouraged their blood brothers German Franks to attack the USSR, because they expected to heat the heat with the wrong hands, after which they themselves would lead the new Holy Roman Empire of the German nation.
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk 17 June 2020 13: 56 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Operator
                  propaganda in 1941, it is important whether the soldiers of the French army believed in it in 1940.

                  In your opinion - they believed, and therefore massively and joyfully surrendering to the Germans hugged with them. Something I do not observe in photos of joy on French faces.
                  Quote: Operator
                  Thousands of dead Frenchmen in WWII is a distraction, nothing more.

                  Whose maneuver? France or Germany? Or both? Sounds like an alternative story.
                  Quote: Operator

                  So, therefore, the Anglo-Saxons and French Franks stimulated their blood brothers German Franks to attack the USSR, because

                  Here I am in agreement with you.
        2. sir winston
          sir winston 17 June 2020 17: 52 New
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          You apparently do not understand that gluing offensive nicknames to an entire nation is at least indecent. By the way, the Nazis called the French exactly that. Are you nazi
          1. Operator
            Operator 17 June 2020 17: 56 New
            +1
            À la guerre comme à la guerre (C) - what is Macron's sodomy bay about Russia?
  • Threaded screw
    Threaded screw 16 June 2020 10: 20 New
    +2
    Why did the French surrender so easily to Hitler
    Let's try to be a little more objective, fear, desertion, collaboration, refugees, commanders, backward equipment, tactics, information war, etc ... were everywhere, including on the eastern front, but the war in France was not a war of extermination secondly, France did not possess such resources for resistance as the USSR.
  • Molot1979
    Molot1979 16 June 2020 10: 45 New
    +2
    A couple of words in defense of the amber.
    1. It is now known that the Ardennes for armored divisions are passable. And in the spring of 1940 no one knew about it. So the French mistake is understandable and excusable. Plus there was a section of the Maginot line, so the French generals had reason for optimism. Well, who knew that the Germans worked out the technology for breaking the fortified lines to automaticity.
    2. The experience of Poland? And how much time did the French have for its comprehension and implementation? In addition, the Polish campaign led to certain changes both in the structure of German armored forces and in changes in tactics.
    3. Panic, paratroopers and saboteurs - this is the general picture of 1939-42. Not only the French were noted here.
    4. Could the Franks really defend Central and Southern France? The answer is negative. France is not the USSR and exchanging time for a distance there is unrealistic. The formation of new divisions takes time and weapons. Do you have this weapon and time? You can’t equip recruits with sticks and the next day you won’t throw them into battle, you need to train them. A normal army at this time perishes in Flanders.
    It is easy to give advice, knowing exactly how much fuel and shells the Germans have left, knowing exactly where the di erste is to the column of marshirt, and then to the column of marshirt. But really fighting is hard. The fellow traveler will not come and tell where and where the Germans will go.
    1. Aitvaras
      Aitvaras 16 June 2020 12: 14 New
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      Similarly, you can defend the Red Army in 1941. The leadership of the USSR did not draw useful conclusions from the German military companies in Poland and France, these were template actions. Plan "Barbarossa" comrade Stalin was then known. As the Author can be argued, if decisive and talented commanders in the Red Army, then in 1941, on June 22, the troops would occupy defensive lines, preparing a layered defensive. rather than waiting without hesitation, having removed the armed forces from combat aircraft. Tank forces were deployed into battle order. They would have brought enough fuel for tanks, full BK. There would be no “41st.” Like the French, the Soviet military leaders did not believe their eyes when they received intelligence data on the military concentration of German troops on the border.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 16 June 2020 14: 10 New
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        Perhaps you are right, somewhere between 50-60%, but: "be decisive and talented commanders in the Red Army, then in June 1941, 22, troops occupied defensive lines, preparing a layered defense." Here begins: “if only grandmother and grandfather had a bolt”, but in reality, for example, a strong-willed commander takes a defensive line .. This contradicts the order: “Do not succumb to provocations”. + Not the execution of Voroshilov’s orders
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 34 New
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          "Layered defense" implies the presence of a huge amount of resources to build these same echelons.
      2. Molot1979
        Molot1979 16 June 2020 17: 33 New
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        A decisive commander, of course, could occupy all that. The problem is that the decisive commander has an incomplete division and the length of the front sector is twice that of the Charter. The commander’s determination does not compensate for several thousand soldiers in the ranks.
      3. bk0010
        bk0010 16 June 2020 21: 33 New
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        Quote: Aitvaras
        , if in the Red Army decisive and talented commanders, then in 1941, on June 22, troops would occupy defensive lines, preparing a layered defense.
        It will not help: they are circumvented or, having accumulated multiple superiority in a small area, break through, the defenders are surrounded, without rear, a maximum of a week later, all supplies run out. All.
        Quote: Aitvaras
        .Without waiting for attacks from the air, they would raise spacecraft into battle rather than waiting lightly, having removed their weapons from combat aircraft.
        It will not help: Soviet aviation was not so much bombed at airfields as it burned a resource of fighters, trying to cover troops on the ground due to the lack of a normal aviation control system.
        Quote: Aitvaras
        .Tanked the tank troops into battle formation. Would bring up enough fuel for the tanks, full BK. The Red Army tanks were better than the German ones, there were more of them than the Germans, the training of the SC troops was at the level and there wouldn’t be such a disaster.
        So it was. It didn’t help: when the mechanized corps hit (tank pogrom near Brody), more than 70% of the tanks simply didn’t reach the battlefield, broke down (to the question of which tanks are better), and those who arrived were destroyed by the classic anti-tank defense, for which we could only get even the battles for Balaton (where our anti-tank forces already crushed the last Hitler tank fist).
        The USSR could be helped only by the concept of mobile defense, but even if it were known, then Army 41 could not have realized it. Until the end of World War II, no one could stop the blitzkrieg (and the Germans, too: 10 Stalinist blows were a typical blitzkrieg). The Germans had problems when they tried to take something (for example, Moscow, Stalingrad). Near Kursk they couldn’t “make” a blitzkrieg: no matter how many lines of defense they broke, new lines were already ready for them, they ran out sooner than ours.
        1. Aitvaras
          Aitvaras 17 June 2020 12: 22 New
          +1
          SW 0010, so what I’m talking about, I mean all the commanders of the Red Army, from diva to comrade. Stalin. There were KShU before the Second World War and the gene. Zhukov then showed how everything would be and was right. The leadership of the USSR was mistaken in assessing the real plans and the possibility of Germany at that time; the generals were mistaken in the specific direction of the main blow, etc. e.g. in the battle of Kursk, they were able to keep the Nazis, it was unlikely that the Germans would make the Kursk in 1941, but they could, with a proper assessment of the enemy, as stipulated in the Military Oath, the statutes of the Red Army and other soldiers. documents. Talleyrand said that "this is not a crime, it is worse, this is a mistake."
      4. EvilLion
        EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 35 New
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        What world has won that criticize the Soviet leadership?

        Lord, 75 years have passed, and such nonsense from the perestroika "Spark" is still being written ...
      5. Molot1979
        Molot1979 14 August 2020 07: 04 New
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        Don't bother. All the work has already been done by A.V. Isaev. In short, in order for everything to go as it should, it was necessary to launch full combat, general mobilization and advance to the border at least at the end of May. And for this it was necessary to know for sure that the war would begin at the end of June. And for sure to drop all illusions and head for war. General mobilization is a war without options. Unfortunately, for some reason the people who came to Stalin did not come, and the Nostradamus did not appear. And intelligence did NOT report exactly.
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 16 June 2020 20: 29 New
      +2
      Theoretically, France could "scrape over the guts" in Africa and Indochina - the Foreign Legion and other "native parts". When? - since September 1939 For 10 months they could transport and place the necessary quantity, and they were - several parts of the Foreign Legion and "native parts" were brought to France, but apparently the General Staff of France seriously believed that the war would be "protracted", or maybe the Germans would even change their minds to fight with France and England . Hitler did not want to fight with Yugoslavia at first - he “pushed” the Yugoslav government to an agreement on the accession of Yugoslavia to the Triple Pact of the Axis countries on March 25, 1940. Following the example of Bulgaria.
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 16 June 2020 11: 16 New
    +4
    However, the Allies seemed to be blinded and unanimously fell into idiocy. On the eve of May 10, radio intelligence spotted the unusual activity of German stations in the Ardennes, where, as it seemed, there was a secondary section of the front. The Allies did not even conduct aerial reconnaissance of a dangerous direction. On the night of May 11, aerial reconnaissance discovered a motorized convoy in the Ardennes. The command considered this to be a "night illusion." The next day, aerial reconnaissance confirmed the data. Again, the command turned a blind eye to an obvious fact. Only on the 13th, having received a new series of aerial photographs, did the allies catch up and take up bombers in the air to bomb the enemy. But it was too late.

    A little over a year will pass - and everything will repeat as old.
    Intelligence loses enemy connections or sees them where they are not. German armored divisions appear as if from nowhere. The command builds a defense - and receives the main blow in the considered minor direction. The defending personnel units fall into the boilers - and you have to hurriedly build at least some front out of what is at hand.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 16 June 2020 12: 19 New
    -5
    Why did the French practically not resist? Well, they’re all “Europeans”, isn’t it all the same who rules? They have no Homeland, no Fatherland, there are borders and a well-fed life for themselves, why die? That is why the current EU was formed.
  • vladcub
    vladcub 16 June 2020 13: 01 New
    +2
    "communication with the troops was lost," given that the French command was already inclined to surrender, this was enough for the collapse of the army.
    If we recall our story: June-July 1941 are also the most mythical paratroopers.
    I. Stadnyuk described the situation very well in the novel: "A man does not give up." The author himself in 1941 was a political instructor and well remembered the experience.
    So by and large they acted according to the pattern
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 16 June 2020 13: 04 New
    +1

    German soldiers with captured French reconnaissance bomber Amiot 143
    Almost all of the pre-war French multi-motor could be characterized in one phrase, mockery of aerodynamics. laughing

    MV-210 this one has true retractable chassis laughing
  • BAI
    BAI 16 June 2020 17: 04 New
    +2
    Yes, it seems that the French were just on the drum, under whose control to live.
  • Operator
    Operator 17 June 2020 14: 20 New
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    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
    Whose maneuver? France or Germany?

    Both of them.
  • Operator
    Operator 17 June 2020 14: 27 New
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    Quote: bk0010
    It will not help: they are circumvented or, having accumulated multiple superiority in a small area, they break through, the defenders are surrounded, without rear, after a maximum of a week all supplies run out.

    The super-long front line, the scanty density of the covering army, its deployment (including rear services) in the zone of enemy artillery fire from adjacent territory, the incomplete mobilization, deployment and combat coordination of the RKKA Red Army on the main line of defense of the Western Dvina-Dnepr.

    Against the background of these strategic punctures, the low resource of Soviet military equipment, the small number of its new models in the troops, the lack of high-quality armor-piercing shells of the most massive calibers, the critically small number of radio stations and reconnaissance equipment are just seeds.
    1. 5-9
      5-9 17 June 2020 15: 33 New
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      And even in the USSR there were as many trucks as the Wehrmacht shook from France .... naked tanks, without artels and infantry on trucks, even if they were T-44 and IS-3 in 1941, they won’t get much ... and the Germans just go round the defense
      1. Operator
        Operator 17 June 2020 15: 40 New
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        Again, these are technical details, despite the fact that the main thing in the 1941 military company is the strategic miscalculations of the USSR leadership.

        The Finns won the Red Army for almost the entire Winter War as they fought with ancient equipment like shit of a mammoth and only at the end got hold of the Soviet trophy.
        1. 5-9
          5-9 17 June 2020 15: 51 New
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          And how will you fight, if your enemy can go around your defense stupidly, and he loves and knows how to do it? And the numerical superiority in the infantry is 1,5 times? And the average German soldier und ahfitser is much more educated than yours and the average tanker steers better, the pilot flies, and the artilleryman is firing from the howitzer? But the mechanics can repair it all and they have spare parts, and your equipment turns into firewood? And the superiority in quantity of both tanks and planes is half yours on paper?
          In what year were you going to correct all this ... in 1905 or 1930? Or in 1861? Well, so that by 1941?

          Therefore, strategically, the leadership came up with an evacuation ... Any movement of parts on the map could only slightly improve the situation of the Red Army ... well, like they would have reached Smolensk and Kharkov, but they didn’t take Crimea, etc.

          PS: the Finns were grinded into bloody mess (after such losses as they officially suffered - they do not ask for mercy, in real life they have exhausted their mobresource) on TVD, where equipment does not play a special role. Well, in fact, this war showed PPR what are the Krasnoye military commissars and domestic equipment ...
          1. Operator
            Operator 17 June 2020 16: 10 New
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            Well, I’m talking about this - it was necessary to take into account all the strengths of the enemy, for example, using the following rational decisions:

            - withdraw troops of the covering army from the state border not less than the range of large-caliber artillery shots, and the rear supply bases on the combat radius of enemy diving bombers;
            - to fully equip the cover army and withdraw it to field positions in early spring (so as not to guess on the coffee grounds when the enemy “suddenly” attacks);
            - to equip the covering army with anti-tank 37 mm cannons and 82 mm horse-drawn mortars without hatred, to give it maneuverability;
            - build a focal defense of the covering army (since its strength does not reach the solid front by several times) in the form of field strongholds (dug up by the fighters themselves) with reserve military units equipped with ammunition and food supplies in advance;
            - deploy all troops without exception RGK RKKA no further than the planned line Western Dvina - Dnieper, incl. all mechanized corps and field airfields of military aircraft.

            Already this minimal set of measures would allow to gain time for pulling the RGC troops from the internal districts already during the war, determine the directions of the enemy’s main attacks not according to intelligence, but in fact, would ensure the cover army’s ammunition in the conditions of domination of enemy aircraft and covering strikes from a sudden blow all the mechanized corps and aircraft, etc. etc.
            1. 5-9
              5-9 17 June 2020 16: 13 New
              +1
              Yes, it’s clear that there were a lot of mistakes ... and from the point of afterlife, it’s all so ... but the general (socio-economic) level of development of the country was low, no organizational actions that could save from the defeat of the Red Army in the 41st could have been invented in the 41st ...
              1. Operator
                Operator 17 June 2020 16: 18 New
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                This is not an afterthought, but the most rational decisions based on information about the Wehrmacht and the Red Army within the data available at the beginning of 1941 at the disposal of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces.

                However, the opinion of Stalin on the need to defeat the Wehrmacht in the border battle won, for this they pulled all units, even not equipped, to the border and placed army depots and hospitals directly on the border - as, for example, in Brest.
                1. EvilLion
                  EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 14 New
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                  And come on, you won’t write nonsense. Troops are always pulled to where they will fight. It does not follow from this that the Red Army seriously hoped to win the border battle. And Brest was simply framed by Pavlov, but from this disgrace they make a feat and pull it to the entire border, although nowhere else than Pavlovsk possessions did soldiers jump up from their beds under bombs, and important objects were at least out of reach of artillery. And no one took off machine guns from a whole aviation regiment at once either.
            2. EvilLion
              EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 30 New
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              A large-caliber shot is 30 kilometers. Nothing was placed at such a range. But the dive radius can be hundreds of kilometers. To carry so many shells - this is not enough transport.

              Full staffing implies, count, mobilization. However, units near the border are already in much higher readiness than internal units.

              37 mm anti-tank guns and 82 mm horse-drawn mortars to give it maneuverability


              There were 45 mm guns. As for 82 mm mortars, then against 150 mm howitzers this is not even funny. The most incorrigible thing is that the level of training of the Red Army was not high enough to correctly use such tactical weapons, as a result, the infantry was extremely dependent on artillery, and the matyugs in this regard were even from the commanders in the era of the Battle of Stalingrad.

              to build a focal defense of the covering army (since its strength does not reach the solid front by several times) in the form of field strongholds (dug up by the fighters themselves) with reserve operational units equipped with ammunition and food supplies in advance;


              Yes, sit in a trench and shoot Germans running at you. The typical position of someone who is not trained to fight, but is afraid to run into the attack. The Germans have nothing more to do, they will simply bypass these points, and after 2-3 weeks the fighters from them will go to hunger themselves to surrender, which actually happened in Brest, where more than half of the military personnel was captured. The Germans themselves in the winter of 41-42 used the tactics of strong points, but they built them in the cities, and the city is also a communication center, just getting around it is more difficult, often impossible, and you can sit there for a long time. However, it seems to me that if the level of the Red Army was at least the same as it would be in a year, the result would be the same as it would be in a year.
  • 5-9
    5-9 17 June 2020 15: 26 New
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    This should be allowed to re-read to those who are "surprised" at our defeat in the Border Battle in the 41st and suspect all sorts of rezunism.
    But I didn’t know that there were concentration camps in the Solar Storage too ...

    PS: The difference between a democratic good concentration camp and the evil terrible Mordor Gulag is that they drove everyone to a concentration camp for some reason (for example, Italian in France, Japanese in the USA) without any guilt ... and sent to the evil GULAG only by court order, or a judicial authority aka troika for a specific crime (whether it is real or not is another matter).
  • NF68
    NF68 17 June 2020 16: 33 New
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    The French relaxed after the WWII. The Germans, on the contrary, carefully analyzed the cause of their defeat in WWII and made much fewer mistakes at the beginning of WWII than their opponents. Therefore, at first, the Germans were doing very well.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 25 June 2020 11: 07 New
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      They didn’t relax, they were very demoralized, so the sons of WWI veterans were not ready after their father’s stories, again in the trenches for a long time.
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 17 June 2020 19: 44 New
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    Because!

    And why not more.
  • IC
    IC 20 June 2020 00: 14 New
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    Explanatory article. Only the roots of this rout, in the decomposition of political and military leadership in the 30s. But this is a separate big topic.
  • Alexander Moiseev
    Alexander Moiseev 21 June 2020 16: 12 New
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    Thank you, very informative!
  • Ivan Petryashin
    Ivan Petryashin 23 June 2020 10: 18 New
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    Did the French use Cyrillic?

  • Ham
    Ham 24 June 2020 07: 49 New
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    In fact, France capitulated out of fear

    Yes, Boshes fought for the French for the previous two wars (1870 and PMV) ... if it weren’t for the British and Russians in the PMV Germans to deal with France as planned - "before the first leaf fall"
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 25 June 2020 10: 34 New
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    You are lying! Everyone knows that only the ghoul Stalin could have allowed the disaster of the 41st year.
  • aleksandaravin
    aleksandaravin 2 July 2020 11: 17 New
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    Oh my gentlemen! That is what the absence of the King on the Throne means! In the First War, in the same France, Napoleon, of course, was not found, but there were Two Civilians - Poincare with the Poganyal War, and Clemenceau - the Tiger! Though the Shtatskys - they pulled 1/2 Stalin! Here France has won! And with Us, on the contrary, We didn’t have Stalin in the First War, but IV Stalin was with us in the Second! And then the Germans would Us - ON SOAP, sir!
  • aleksandaravin
    aleksandaravin 2 July 2020 12: 01 New
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    And Second, My Lord! The French in 1939-40- Terribly did not want to fight! We Sinners are the same, both in 1917 and in 1991!
  • Raphael Wahitov
    Raphael Wahitov 5 July 2020 18: 38 New
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    The French were ordered to lose the shadow government from the Deep State, they knew very well that to defeat the USSR, all the resources of Europe were needed. All European governments played giveaways.
  • Alexander Efimov
    Alexander Efimov 5 August 2020 22: 12 New
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    Interesting ... But in my opinion ... the whole point of why the French surrendered so quickly, there is a photo (any search engine - pictures) - the French police show the road to the Wehrmacht officer on the map ...
  • Python 57
    Python 57 15 August 2020 09: 26 New
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    Regarding the actions of the French aviation. The article contains propaganda nonsense. In 40 days of fighting, fighter pilots of the French Air Force and the British Expeditionary Force shot down 1200 Luftwaffe aircraft, killing 2000 flight personnel. By the time of the Soviet attack, the Luftwaffe never recovered to its strength in April 1940. The Red Army Air Force, having 10 fighters, reached such numbers only in late autumn.
  • Maxim Aranson
    Maxim Aranson 19 September 2020 11: 56 New
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    Napoleon must have been spinning in his coffin. Yet such an attack of weakness and panic among a whole nation is inexplicable even by the reasons given in the article.