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On the ruins of Yugoslavia. Alien Tito's heirs

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On the ruins of Yugoslavia. Alien Tito's heirs

They betrayed on time



In 1981, just a year after the death of Josip Broz Tito, a book by the not-so-well-known Croatian dissident was published in New York. It was the work of the disgraced ex-director of the Zagreb Institute stories the working-class movement of Franjo Tudjman's Nationalism in Modern Europe, in which there seemed to be nothing essentially new. However, it concluded that it was extremely important for the West that was aiming for the collapse of Yugoslavia:

"The position of the Republic of Croatia in Yugoslavia is comparable to the position of India during the period of British colonial rule."

Catholic, although at that time still socialist Croatia and the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina went to the direct split of a unified Yugoslavia in the first half of the 1990s. And first, Zagreb and Sarajevo, feeling the guarantees of their own impunity, agreed on mutual borders.

But already in June-August 1995, they together de facto liquidated the Serbian republic of Krajina. Serbian Krajina, created in response to Croatia’s desire to leave the SFRY, was located in southwestern Croatia. It had the capital of the 12 thousandth Knin and bordered on Bosnia and Herzegovina, and existed for less than four years.

The reprisals against the Serbs who wished to remain in Croatia were infinitely cruel. As a result of the occupation of Krajina, which was directly supported by NATO, up to 250 thousand Serbs fled from Croatia, and the minimum number of victims of the Serb massacre is now estimated at four thousand people. According to the Veritas organization, which unites Krajina Serbs in exile, the number of dead and missing civilians in Krajina in August 1995 alone amounted to at least 1042 people.

The unprecedented Croatian pressure is not difficult to explain. As early as November 15, 1994, the United States and Croatia concluded an indefinite agreement on military cooperation. According to the then Minister of Foreign Affairs of Croatia, Mate Granich, the United States, within the framework of the treaty, advised the Croatian army on the issue of an attack on Krajina. At the same time, up to 60 military advisers from the American private military company MPRI participated in the training of Croatian special units and guard brigades.

The victory over Serbian Krajina was immediately welcomed by Germany. The representative of the German embassy in Zagreb, K. Ender, shortly after the liquidation of Krajina, stated on Zagreb radio:

“Germany shares the joy of military success with you and praises you for this war. Even the analysts who know more than me could not have foreseen such a quick and magnificent action. ”

A few years later, the leaders of Croatia were ready to go further. At the beginning of the 2000s, provocations on the Croatian-Slovenian border sharply increased, and in Slovenia the proclamations "Slovenia is Croatia!" The claims of Croatian nationalists apply not only to the Slovenian Koper (formerly Kapdistrias), Piran and Portoroz, but also ... to the Italian Trieste (Tristia).

It is characteristic that, at the same time, some “experts” in Croatia continue to periodically advocate to deprive Bosnia and Herzegovina of even a microscopic exit to the Adriatic near the town of Neum. The basis of such requirements says that this exit "geographically breaks the territorial unity of Croatia."


In this regard, it should be recalled that in 1946, in unified Yugoslavia, the Croatian authorities lobbied for the construction of the port of Ploce in the extreme south-east of Croatia, near its coastal border with Bosnia. This was necessary to strengthen the presence of Croatia in the South Adriatic. The port was built by 1952, but the authorities of Bosnia and Herzegovina insisted on its transfer to this republic, due to its miniature access to the Adriatic at the resort town of Neum.

However, Zagreb persisted, and in Belgrade did not dare to aggravate relations with the Croats. In the mid-60s, a railway was built from Sarajevo to Ploce, which facilitated the foreign trade relations of Bosnia and Herzegovina, although under the transit control of Croatia. Bosnia and Herzegovina still enjoys duty-free transit through Ploce, but “public” campaigns are periodically carried out in the republic for not recognizing the borders with Croatia near Jadran.

Heroes and exploits


We can say that the ideological founder, and soon the military-political leader of Croatian separatism was precisely Franjo Tudjman. A loyal communist for almost a quarter century with a truly detective biography. Already in April 1944, 22-year-old Tujman became commander of the communist partisan brigade in the Liberation Army of I. B. Tito. In 1953, the hero of the struggle for freedom became a colonel, and in 1959, a major general. He served in the General Staff of the JNA.

In 1961, a sharp turn occurred in the career of a military officer Tudjman: he became director of the Zagreb Institute for the History of the Labor Movement. Moreover: he was allowed to give lectures in the USA, Canada, Italy, Austria. In all likelihood, the general experienced dizziness, not uncommon in such cases, from success. Tudjman defended his doctoral dissertation in Zagreb on the crisis of monarchist Yugoslavia, but was soon caught by outright plagiarism.

He was expelled from the Communist Party, dismissed from the institute and demoted. Soon, the failed scientist founded an underground nationalist group in Zagreb, which quickly established contacts with Muslim extremists in Bosnia. At that time they were already headed by the notorious Aliya Izetbegovich.


Alia Izetbegovic - both Bosnian President and bin Laden's friend

The career of this Muslim underground has developed in parallel with the Croatian dissident. He was also a notable publicist and back in 1970 illegally published in Bosnia and Herzegovina, as well as in Serbian Kosovo, his already famous, and for many terrorists, desktop “Islamic Declaration”.

In it, Izetbegovich very convincingly, even fanatically argued,

“There can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic political institutions of power. Our path does not begin with the seizure of power, but with the conquest of people. ”

For this work, he received his 1975 years in prison in 14. In 1989, having been released, Aliya Izetbegovic led the anti-Serb campaign of the Bosnian chauvinists, who became allies of Croatian like-minded and Kosovar extremists. Later, in spite of the high posts held by Izetbegovic (he became president of Bosnia and Herzegovina back in 1990), he was not called a man who drowned Bosnia in blood.

Meanwhile, Franjo Tudjman, like many dissidents, can be said to be “lucky” to be imprisoned. He became one of the "martyrs of conscience" on charges of supporting nationalism and sat down even twice - in 1972 and 1981. Moreover, in 1972, Tudjman was first sentenced to two years, but was released after nine months.

Soon, the newly-minted Croatian dissident joined the campaign of Western and emigrant media about the unviability of a unified Yugoslavia. His second prison term (already three years) generally happened very on time - one by one the communist leaders left, everything went to discharge, and already in September 1984 was again released ahead of schedule, having served only 17 months.


At the same time, Aliya Izetbegovich actively searched for and found allies, among whom was the notorious leader of Al-Qaeda (banned in the Russian Federation) Osama bin Laden. Here are the data published in Sarajevo "Independent News"dated May 2, 2011:

“Bin Laden said he would send Muslim volunteers to Bosnia and Herzegovina. In 1993, the embassy of Bosnia and Herzegovina in Vienna issued bin Laden a passport. ”

The German magazine Zeitenschrift also wrote about the role of Osama bin Laden in Yugoslav events. Thus, in the publication "Bin Laden in Sarajevo" dated September 11, 2004, the main accused of terrorist attacks in New York and Washington on September 11, 2001, was in Bosnia and Herzegovina and was a NATO ally in the Balkans during the war in this region. in the early 1990s. And this information has not been disproved so far ...

Chevalier of a foreign order


Let us return, however, to the person of F. Tudjman. In June 1987, the Yugoslav authorities allowed him and his family to leave for Canada. There and in the United States, he lectured on the Croatian desire for independence, the unenviable prospect of the SFRY, and on the "exaggeration" of accusations by Croatian Ustas in their repression against the Serbs during the Second World War.

Not without the help of the West and the Vatican, Tujman associates established in 1990 the “Christian Democratic Union of Croatia”. He repeatedly stated that Croatia during the Second World War was not only a Nazi entity, "how many expressed the thousand-year-old aspirations of the Croatian people for independence."

Apparently, the new vaccination of nationalism for the Croats was very strong. Franjo Tudjman was elected President of Croatia in 1990, 1994 and 1997, and always with a large margin of vote. He became the Marshal of Croatia immediately after the bloody destruction of the Republika Srpska Republic in 1995.


Marshal Tudjman considered himself the true heir to Marshal Tito

However, an attempt to amend the criminal law of Croatia criminalizing “praising fascist, nationalist and other totalitarian ideologies or promoting racism and xenophobia” was nevertheless made in 2003. Although the amendment was adopted by the Croatian Parliament (Croatian Sabor), The Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation rejected it by its decision of November 27, 2003.

In its conclusion (February 2018), the Council for Studying the Consequences of the Government of Undemocratic Regimes under the Government of the Population of the Peoples Republic equated the Ustashev regime in Croatia with the socialist system of the former Yugoslavia. And since February 1992, the pro-Nazi “Croatian Liberation Movement”, founded in Argentina in 1956 by the former collaborator and dictator of the “NGH” A. Pavelich, has been operating in the country without restrictions. Escaped from Yugoslavia in 1945, not without the help of the Vatican.

According to the report of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation “On the situation with the glorification of Nazism and the spread of neo-Nazism” dated May 6, 2019, there are regular acts of vandalism in Croatia against memorials to Yugoslav partisans and monuments in their burial places. Only for 1991-2000. 2964 such objects were destroyed in the country. It was also noted that the mass media of the country are heroizing the Ustashi and their allies, and representatives of the Catholic Church are participating in these campaigns.

However, soon after the reprisal against Serbian Krajina, Franjo Tudjman was awarded ... a Russian medal named after Marshal Zhukov. This award was solemnly presented to the Croatian politician on November 5, 1996 at the Russian Embassy in Zagreb. With the wording “For an active contribution to the Victory over fascism and on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of Marshal Zhukov.”
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  1. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 21 June 2020 05: 52 New
    +4
    Yugoslavia was a patchwork state, held on only because a united Yugoslavia was needed by Britain and the United States as an irritant for the USSR. The USSR did not become, and Anglo-Saxons were thrown out of Yugoslavia as a used condom. Now the role of Yugoslavia is played by Ukraine, also a patchwork artificial education with a population that hates each other. And only being anti-Russia, Ukraine is still formally a single country. It would not be needed as an irritant to Russia, the Anglo-Saxons would also ruin Ukraine long ago, giving Transcarpathia, Galicia, Volyn and Bukovina to their Polish, Hungarian and Romanian mongrels.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 21 June 2020 06: 53 New
      +6
      Even Tito, immediately after the end of WWII, began to look closely at the neighbors with the goal of * growing territories *, up to the threat of these neighbors by the war, and the main striking force provided for the RED ARMY.
      JOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN refused to fight for Yugoslav interests and Tito first destroyed ALL the Soviet specialists who were there, helped restore Yugoslavia, and then in very close contact with the French-British-Americans began to conduct provocations (including military ones) around the world against OF THE SOVIET UNION and against CITIZENS OF THE SOVIET UNION,
      Remember already Miloshevich, he also stood in the position that * RUSSIA should *. There are many things to remember.
      For some reason, in the south of the Europppp, among * Slavic peoples *, there is a belief that * RUSSIA MUST *. RUSSIA it responded with wars.
      Today they are also trying to play the idea that RUSSIA SHOULD.
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 21 June 2020 08: 26 New
        +5
        With such brothers and enemies are not necessary. They also got involved in WWI to help the "brothers". As a result, millions were killed on the WWI fronts, the collapse of the Empire, millions killed and died from epidemics and hunger in the Civil War.
        1. Basil50
          Basil50 21 June 2020 08: 30 New
          +6
          Kuse
          It is worth remembering that in Belgrade from the 20s of the last century the most odious figures and ideologists of the * white movement * were crowded. How many of them later served Hitler?
      2. Plantagenet
        Plantagenet 21 June 2020 09: 20 New
        -11
        “And when even in the rustle of the taiga it was not possible to hear about any other variant of socialism, the black dragon Tito crawled out and blocked all prospects.

        Not that Tito will succeed - nothing can come out of him. Like an old konoval, having overtaken many of these bellies, cut off countless of these limbs in chicken huts, on the road, looking at a little white trainee, a medical doctor, - this is how Stalin looked at Tito.
        But Tito stirred up the long-forgotten trinkets for fools: "workers' control", "land - to the peasants", all these soap bubbles of the first years of the revolution.

        Three times already replaced the collected works of Lenin, twice - the Founders. For a long time, everyone who argued, who was mentioned in the old notes, fell asleep — everyone who thought otherwise to build socialism.

        A.I. Solzhenitsyn "In the first circle"
      3. Egor-dis
        Egor-dis 22 June 2020 14: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Vasily50
        For some reason, in the south of the Europppp, among * Slavic peoples *, there is a belief that * RUSSIA MUST *. RUSSIA it responded with wars.
        Today they are also trying to play the idea that RUSSIA SHOULD.

        It's hard for you to understand this, but Russia really MUST. It must defend its national interests wherever it has these interests. Of course, defending your interests with someone else's hands, as the Americans do, is aerobatics and Russia has not been able to do that yet, but it still needs to be defended. Therefore, yes, without wars it is impossible, but there is nothing to blame on the mirror.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 June 2020 08: 34 New
      +3
      ..... the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia did not ...
      The events in Yugoslavia are synchronous with the destruction of the USSR and everything that happened in the country after that. The destruction of Yugoslavia immediately became possible under the post-Soviet RF
      Destruction of Yugoslavia, demonization of Slavic Serbs ----- this is similar to the planned scenario for Russia
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 21 June 2020 09: 07 New
        +2
        The USSR de facto ceased to exist since June 12, 1990, when Yeltsin declared the sovereignty of the RSFSR. Without the RSFSR, the very existence of the USSR was impossible. The Anglo-Saxons already realized that they had won, and began the collapse of Yugoslavia. A year later, on June 25, 1991, Slovenia and Croatia declared sovereignty and so on. The EU recognized independent republics on December 17, 1991, 9 days after the Bialowieza conspiracy. Coincidence? I don’t think so. I believe that the EU was in no hurry to recognize the independence of the republics of the former Yugoslavia until the final collapse of the USSR, so that if by some miracle the USSR does not fall apart, then it would be possible to bring Yugoslavia back.
      2. Lexus
        Lexus 22 June 2020 02: 36 New
        -2
        Events in Yugoslavia are synchronous with the destruction of the USSR

        The processes of a single plan. Like throwing the ruling elite contrary to the opinion of the people today. hi
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 21 June 2020 06: 02 New
    +8
    The victory over Serbian Krajina was immediately welcomed by Germany. The representative of the German embassy in Zagreb, K. Ender, shortly after the liquidation of Krajina, stated on Zagreb radio:

    “Germany shares the joy of military success with you

    Here she is, the real German hari-cynical, hypocritical and arrogant.

    Which we must always remember when dealing with Germany.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 21 June 2020 06: 35 New
      11
      The Germans are animals, you should never forget what they did in our Second World War.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 June 2020 08: 41 New
      +9
      The Germans have always hated the Serbs for their resistance to German troops.
  3. Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 21 June 2020 06: 26 New
    10
    However, soon after the reprisal against Serbian Krajina, Franjo Tudjman was awarded ... a Russian medal named after Marshal Zhukov. This award was solemnly presented to the Croatian politician on November 5, 1996 at the Russian Embassy in Zagreb. With the wording “For an active contribution to the Victory over fascism and on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of Marshal Zhukov.”

    strongly
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 21 June 2020 06: 28 New
      0
      Gorbachev ... that’s the root of evil, a corrupt bastard. It was the USSR, it was quiet in the region.
      1. avaks111
        avaks111 21 June 2020 08: 21 New
        +3
        Do not exaggerate the role of personality in history?
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  5. Edward Vashchenko
    Edward Vashchenko 21 June 2020 06: 31 New
    +4
    Once in the multinational social. ideology was weakening in countries, nationalists crawled out to melt countries, as it was in the SFRY, in our country, and even in Czechoslovakia.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 21 June 2020 09: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      Once in the multinational social. ideology was weakening in countries, nationalists crawled out to melt countries, as it was in the SFRY, in our country, and even in Czechoslovakia.

      as soon as multi-state countries weakened the grip of the party, got out brought up by her nationalists.

      In the USSR, for example, 36 states (we read the constitutions of the union and autonomous republics).

      Writers' unions of the republics, etc. "Tilligency: learned., created, raised, printed, treated kindly by the authorities, all members of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and ... there is nowhere to put samples.

      Communist G. Vieru, famous honored Moldavian poet, poems:

      “Hey Russian, I'm tired of hearing your chatter about my release”,
      "If a Russian asks you for a piece of bread, give him a piece of dynamite"
      “How much can you act to your own detriment only so as not to annoy the Russians?”,
      “I am a bloody stain called Moldova, which, instead of burning the killer, tries to smile at him”
      "Live in our homes, command us, teach us how to live on our land."

      etc.
      1. Edward Vashchenko
        Edward Vashchenko 21 June 2020 11: 30 New
        0
        Nationalism is a property of a capitalist economy and no other.
        In the late USSR, as well as in the late Yugoslavia, he climbed like a weed, but the vaunted KGB and their superiors naively thought that they would be able to control this process and steered it, all these Fronts and Rukhs quickly showed the bestial grin of nationalism.
        Socialist ideas were linking peoples standing at different levels of development and developing in their own way. As in February 1917, with the fall of the single rod, then the monarchy, in 1989-1991 the conditional "communist ideology", nationalism climbed from all cracks, national "capitalists" and "officials" rushed to power and isolation from neighbors. The most dense "stories" and outdated ethnic grievances surfaced, new ones were born.
        All these poets: Drach, Veeru, Yandarbiev - were communists absolutely in name, but in life, opportunists. So they took the lead in their "national" struggle.
        And today, nationalism continues to ruin Russia, whether we want it or not, the process is ongoing.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 21 June 2020 12: 40 New
          +4
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          Nationalism is a property of a capitalist economy and no other.

          Is it possible that the capitalists carried out the forcible Ukrainization of the Russian lands transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in the 20s and early 30s? And at the same time, did they also write a separate national history of Ukraine?
          For the theoretical justification of creating a separate Ukrainian nation, the Bolsheviks even invited their former enemies from abroad - nationalist emigrants such as Grushevsky, Rudnitsky and Lozinsky.
          1. Edward Vashchenko
            Edward Vashchenko 21 June 2020 21: 43 New
            0
            Do not confuse the policy and the conformity of the economic system with the features of state building.
            Your examples, the specifics of building a national policy (now I am writing without evaluating) the state, and nationalism, as a phenomenon, exists only if there is a class, its bearer, that is, "capitalists" or the bourgeoisie, nothing else.
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 21 June 2020 13: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          Nationalism is a property of a capitalist economy and no other.

          I did not understand: WHO brought up all this nationalistic evil in the USSR?

          WHO is her caringo taught, raised, put forward, accepted, printed, awarded, multiplied, watched ?!

          WHO invented and carved on the territory of Russia THIRTY SIX "states" that never existed before, WHO invented them glorious centuries-old "stories" that never existed, WHO made them teach and believe in these chimera of people?

          Who taught Ukrainians and Belarusians that they are not the same people as Russians?

          All of these yaroshi-powders-pulling-flies from Mars arrived? Or from Soviet Ukraine?

          What do you mean they "climbed" out of the cracks?

          Is it like the Presidential Council of Ministers Rykov, the Politburo members, the People's Commissars, who were shot as enemies of the people, crawled along the corridors of the Kremlin and the Council of People's Commissars?

          Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
          And today, nationalism continues to destroy Russia,

          Who created on the site of the Russian Terek region and the Stavropol province an explosive tangle of states, and even having cut out and evicted Russia's support there, the Russian Cossacks?
          Martians again?
          1. Edward Vashchenko
            Edward Vashchenko 21 June 2020 21: 52 New
            -1
            The answer is the halyards above, I repeat
            “Don't confuse politics and the conformity of the economic system with the specifics of state building.
            Your examples, the specifics of building a national policy (now I am writing without evaluation) of the state, and nationalism, as a phenomenon, exists only if there is a class, its bearer, that is, "capitalists" or the bourgeois, nothing else. "
            In this case, you get in the way,
            yaroshi powder powders

            a product of Ukrainian bourgeois nationalism, and not just Ukrainians as such.
            He was born long before the "accursed Bolsheviks", the ideologists of this nationalism lived in Ingushetia, just do not confuse Ukrainian nationalism and the people.
            And Ukrainians and Belarusians began to be taught that they are not one people, as I wrote above, when, taking advantage of the weakening of the Sovi Power, all the national-bourgeois elements, where their rudiments were, rushed to power. Including primarily in Russia.
            Without them, no lessons of nationalism began.
            And Yaroshi grew up and was brought up with the kind connivance of the rulers of Russia from 1991 to 2014, sending obedient ambassadors there and selling gas.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 22 June 2020 07: 15 New
              -2
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              Do not confuse the policy and the conformity of the economic system with the features of state building.
              Your examples, the specifics of building a national policy (now I am writing without evaluation) of the state, and nationalism, as a phenomenon, exists only if there is a class, its bearer, that is, "capitalists" or the bourgeois, nothing else. "

              Nonsense, disproved by real life: such wild nationalism as grown under communism was never in the territory of historical Russia NEVER
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              yaroshi powder powders

              a product of Ukrainian bourgeois nationalism, and not just Ukrainians as such.

              You are their YEARS OF BIRTH, look, eh? What .... BOURGEOUT in ... 1960-1970 in ... the USSR, in a Soviet school, university?
              This is the purest product of the Bolshevik system!
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              He was born long before the "accursed Bolsheviks", the ideologists of this nationalism lived in Ingushetia, just do not confuse Ukrainian nationalism and the people.

              ideologists were in A-Hungary and the Republic of Ingushetia, there was no nationalism: Grushevsky, in my opinion, said at the beginning of the 20th century in a train that gathered for the funeral of one of the ideologists of the KKR nationalist associates : "If our train gets ruffled by a crash, then Ukrainian nationalism will disappear"

              But the Soviet Union raised them in tens of millions.
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              And Ukrainians and Belarusians began to be taught that they are not one people, as I wrote above, when, taking advantage of the weakening of the Sovi Power, all the national-bourgeois elements, where their rudiments were, rushed to power. Including primarily in Russia.

              They were taught this abomination precisely from the moment the Bolsheviks seized AUTHORITY in 1917, from the first days of these bandits
              Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
              And Yaroshi grew and raisedl with the kindly connivance of the rulers of Russia from 1991 to 2014,

              Poroshenko-1965, Yarosh born in 1970 -What are you talking for nonsense ?!
              1. Edward Vashchenko
                Edward Vashchenko 22 June 2020 07: 25 New
                -1
                I'm not talking nonsense.
                It is you who write an unscientific opinion and pass it off as truth.
                I already wrote that I share many of your aspirations, in the end, I was born and lived all my youth in the Russian Crimea as part of the Ukrainian SSR, and should I not know what Ukrainization is, but I did not become ideologically neither Poroshenko nor Yarosh, a small pawn run errands by Ukrainian oligarchs.
                Poroshenko is a brother to our oligarchs, who were born of blind nationalism.
                In the 80s, this nationalist growth could be uprooted, You were the first to sing your mournful song about a bloody geben, or let become what she has become now.
                On this bow
                have a nice day hi
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 22 June 2020 08: 19 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  I'm not talking nonsense.


                  In my opinion, naturally, alas
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  It is you who write an unscientific opinion and pass it off as truth.

                  What is "scientific" / "anti-scientific" opinion and what is "truth" - there are as many opinions as there are people. Nobody gave you a monopoly on the right to define them.
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  I already wrote that I share many of your aspirations, in the end, I was born and lived all my youth in the Russian Crimea as part of the Ukrainian SSR, and should I not know what Ukrainization is, but I did not become ideologically neither Poroshenko nor Yarosh, a small pawn run errands by Ukrainian oligarchs

                  You didn’t, but tens of millions of steel and absolutely sincerely: they were taught this in owls. school: Ukrainian is NOT Russian, Ukrainians are a great ancient civilization and culture
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  Poroshenko is a brother to our oligarchs, who were born of blind nationalism.

                  the names of the oligarchs generated by .... nationalism-imagine?
                  Poroshenko 65 g, p, - studied at the owl school, owl university and owls. work.
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  In the 80s, this nationalist growth could be uprooted,

                  Nope. late already, la and how to tear .... YOURSELF ?!
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  You were the first to sing your mournful song about a bloody geben

                  Living in a lie, of course, is sweet and comfortable.
                  But awakening is bitter: see through the window.
                  Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                  On this bow
                  have a nice day

                  I hate this english have a nice day

                  Good luck! hi
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 22 June 2020 10: 43 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    the names of the oligarchs generated by .... nationalism-imagine?
                    Poroshenko 65 g, p, - studied at the owl school, owl university and owls. work.

                    Heh heh heh ... here is a photo of a demonstration of the Donbass miners - the working class of the USSR in all its splendor:

                    This, for a moment, is April 1991. The USSR is still alive. Who raised these nationalists? Also capitalists and bourgeois? smile
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 22 June 2020 11: 18 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      This, for a moment, is April 1991. The USSR is still alive. Who raised these nationalists? Also capitalists and the bourgeois?

                      sure! from the underground yes

                      And what is the strength of this underground, and won the school, and universities, and thousands of regional-district committees. government agencies, etc. yes

                      One "but" - according to the assurances of the same state authorities, it ... did not exist for decades ...

                      Paradox... request
                    2. Jager
                      Jager 22 June 2020 13: 16 New
                      +1
                      What it led to, we all see perfectly ...
                      1. Alexey RA
                        Alexey RA 22 June 2020 14: 29 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Jager
                        What it led to, we all see perfectly ...

                        Yep ... Donbass miners - for an independent Ukraine. Take them - and transfer them to 2014.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 June 2020 07: 02 New
    +7
    However, soon after the reprisal against Serbian Krajina, Franjo Tudjman was awarded ... a Russian medal named after Marshal Zhukov. This award was solemnly presented to the Croatian politician on November 5, 1996 at the Russian Embassy in Zagreb. With the wording “For an active contribution to the Victory over fascism and on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of Marshal Zhukov.”
    Well ....... disgraceful Yeltsin. Another reason to raze his temple to the ground.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 June 2020 08: 44 New
      +5
      Now the states have declassified negotiations between EBN and Clinton over the telephone of that time.
      Yeltsin obeys Clinton
  7. knn54
    knn54 21 June 2020 07: 19 New
    +1
    The main reasons are national hatred and Western interference.
    And the worst thing is that there is no Slavic community as such.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 21 June 2020 07: 34 New
    +5
    after the massacre of the Serbian Krajina Franjo Tudjman was awarded ... the Russian medal named after Marshal Zhukov. This award was solemnly presented to the Croatian politician on November 5, 1996 at the Russian Embassy in Zagreb. With the wording "For active contribution to the Victory over fascism and on the centenary of the birth of Marshal Zhukov."
    .... And in the comments they write, they say there is no ideology in Russia, but it is ... Here is such ... When the Russians on July 1, the Russians will confirm the legitimacy of the adopted amendments, which include an amendment on the historical truth, "we will have an Olympics" ... in the sense of ideology ..
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 June 2020 09: 00 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      after the massacre of the Serbian Krajina Franjo Tudjman was awarded ... the Russian medal named after Marshal Zhukov. This award was solemnly presented to the Croatian politician on November 5, 1996 at the Russian Embassy in Zagreb. With the wording "For active contribution to the Victory over fascism and on the centenary of the birth of Marshal Zhukov."
      .... And in the comments they say, they say there is no ideology in Russia, ....

      The words of sarcasm immediately developed on this occasion, but the topic is not suitable ..... That's what happened.
      ....... Ustash ...... until April 1941, the Croatian fascist ultra-right, nationalist clerical organization founded by Ante Pavelichem in Italy in 1929. From April 1941 to May 1945, Croatia headed the independent state.
      Wikipedia
  9. Artashes
    Artashes 21 June 2020 11: 25 New
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    Add "memorable" objects to the Italian and British troops in the Crimea, in Voronezh to the awarding of Zhukov to Tudjman. areas, statues of Krasnov, boards to Mannerheim, etc. THIS IS ABOUT THE REAL IDEOLOGY of the regime.
    But more and more on the part of all the authorities in the Russian Federation - "release of a patriotic steam": books, articles, conferences, resolutions, parades, even films ... Although THEMSELVES made decisions about the mutual responsibility of the USSR and Germany for World War II ...
    Simply, the authorities have nothing else to cover, except as "patriotic fog", in view of OBVIOUS social-economic. failure.
    But since The "Russian-speaking masses" endure any spitting in their honor (if this masses have any at all ...), dance to the plywood of fake "stars" near the cemetery on Red Square, do not condemn the blockade of the graves of Soviet commanders during the war (which is also blocked from -For Stalin in the same place ...) on holidays - THERE IS NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT. The inevitable "Coming Ham", as DS Merezhkovsky predicted back in 1903. And before him, Belinsky, Chaadaev, Griboyedov, Herzen, Gogol warned about THIS in the 19th century ...
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 21 June 2020 15: 57 New
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      ..... Merezhkovsky ....
      here he was completely out of place
  10. UltraRed
    UltraRed 21 June 2020 13: 23 New
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    The ambiguity of the role of I.B. Tito, the Yugoslav Federal Republic of Yugoslavia headed by him and the ideology of the SKY in the international communist movement in 1950-1980 are well illustrated by E. Hoji's memoirs "Titovtsy" and "Khrushchevtsy", despite even their subjectivity.
    They are in Russian on the internet and are easily searched. I advise you to read it.