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US Air Force F-15 fighter crashes into the North Sea, pilot searches continue

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The second news of the fall of a military aircraft in a day. Initially, a British-made Hawk 200 attack aircraft from Indonesia was reported to have fallen on residential areas of Sumatra Island. Now reported about the fall in the sea off the coast of the UK fighter F-15.


This is a U.S. Air Force aircraft, which, according to recent data, belonged to the 48th United States Fighter Aviation Regiment. Reports say that an American combat aircraft crashed into the North Sea at about 11:40 Moscow time.

The US Air Force F-15 took off from the Lakenhit air base, which is used by both the Royal British Air Force and the United States Air Force. This airbase is located in the English county of Suffolk.

The pilot judge is not currently reported. As there is no data on the probable causes of the crash in the sea.

According to recent reports, the military side has ceased to communicate about a hundred kilometers from the coast of Yorkshire. Coast Guard helicopters, as well as several ships, were sent to the alleged crash site. However, no information was received about the detection of the aircraft and the pilot at this minute.
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  1. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 15 June 2020 17: 12 New
    0
    If the plane is 48FW, then you need to look for two, this is the F-15e. Hope to find both
    1. A good one
      A good one 15 June 2020 17: 18 New
      +4
      It’s cool there, and because of the circumstances, who will work, and who survived.
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 15 June 2020 17: 36 New
        14
        Yes, Survive in cold water, even with a successful bailout - if you don’t immediately find ... with almost no chance! To the plane - There and the road! Pilots - good luck!
    2. kit88
      kit88 15 June 2020 17: 32 New
      16
      So they have, as they say, the F-15C / D squadron remained.
      They say fell "C".
      "At the time of the accident, the aircraft was on a routine training mission with one pilot on board."
      CNN
      1. ancient
        ancient 15 June 2020 19: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: kit88
        So they have, as they say, the F-15C / D squadron remained.

        Here's what freshly written "local":
        Off the coast of Great Britain in the North Sea, fragments of the US Air Force F-15 fighter, which had previously fallen off the British coast, were discovered.
        1. kit88
          kit88 15 June 2020 20: 02 New
          +9
          Greetings. Yes I saw.

      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 15 June 2020 22: 34 New
        +3
        This is a U.S. Air Force aircraft, which, according to recent data, belonged to the 48th United States Fighter Aviation Regiment. Reports say that an American combat aircraft crashed into the North Sea at about 11:40 Moscow time.

        US Air Force F-15 took off from Lakenhit air base

        And were these planes mentioned the other day in the subject “The US Air Force has a new atomic bomb carrier”? "Good" carriers .... Will it be obtained directly by the sowers of the "good and eternal"? A new way of sending to the future is nuclear bombs for Europeans. And off the coast of the USA they don’t want to do such “crops”?
    3. ancient
      ancient 15 June 2020 19: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      If the plane is 48FW, then you need to look for two, this is the F-15e

      Tramp, the press writes that it was an F-15C
      1. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 15 June 2020 21: 26 New
        +2
        Confusion, at one time the 48FW with the F-111 moved to the F-15e and one squadron was transferred to 15s, just found a photo of Seshka with LN keels.
        By the way, the pilot was found dead, God rest his soul.
        1. ancient
          ancient 16 June 2020 12: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          By the way, the pilot was found dead, God rest his soul.

          We all walk under one god (walked) soldier
    4. kulinar
      kulinar 15 June 2020 22: 53 New
      +2
      Found already. Body.
      Air Force transmitted.
  2. Mitroha
    Mitroha 15 June 2020 17: 14 New
    -2
    Good luck to the pilot. The North Sea is not the coast of Florida, you won’t wait for lifeguards for a long time
    1. kit88
      kit88 15 June 2020 19: 25 New
      13
      Campaign him krants.
      There is not a Komar of the 50s under his ass.
      And if I'm not mistaken, AN / PRC-112G.
      Here you have satellite communications, GPS, and the transfer of coordinates to everyone who needs it (who don’t need to give it to them - everything is encoded), and a map of the area on your smartphone ...
      And since all this did not work, then it’s time to rename the operation from search and rescue to just search.
  3. Dangerous
    Dangerous 15 June 2020 17: 15 New
    +4
    Damn, good news about the plane. About the pilot - I hope they will save
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 15 June 2020 17: 45 New
      28
      Quote: Dangerous
      Damn, good news about the plane. About the pilot - I hope they will save

      And to me, I'm talking about the pilot, somehow violet. Why should I worry about the fate of the pilot of a state hostile to my country?
      This is either dementia or hypocrisy.
      Mattress workers have publicly announced that Russia is an enemy. What else do they need to do to make the local humanists believe this? Burn half of Russia?
      1. kit88
        kit88 15 June 2020 18: 26 New
        +9
        Come on you. This pilot will sink, it’s easier for us here. This one didn’t shoot at Russians and didn’t bomb our cities, we won’t be asked to ask him. Let the politicians fight on paper there, but we have no war with them here on earth. So I think this person should not wish death.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 15 June 2020 19: 25 New
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          Quote: kit88
          So I think this person should not wish death.

          And I don’t want it. I said it’s violet to me. Unclear? Well, I’ll say differently - for me on the drum.
          Quote: kit88
          This one didn’t shoot Russians and didn’t bomb our cities, we don’t ask him

          Waiting for him to do this?
          1. kit88
            kit88 15 June 2020 19: 35 New
            +8
            By "violet" - acceptable.
            And here it is: "Wait, when will he do it?" Honestly, with a probability of 99% I expected that this phrase would be written to me here.
            Well, so what if an foreign tourist falls on a Moscow street, so you have to kick him? This is a potential NATO soldier, an enemy.
            We have only "enemies" around Russia. Everyone on the knives?
            Listen, we are peaceful people, we want to have normal relations with everyone, we want us to be treated as normal.
            There will be war - we will fight. Both we and they.
            And again I repeat, let the politicians “fight”, they are paid money for this.
            1. Constructor68
              Constructor68 16 June 2020 06: 15 New
              +8
              Well, so what if an foreign tourist falls on a Moscow street, so you have to kick him?

              Are you at all adequate? Comparing a tourist who came to rest in another country and a military pilot of a country heading a hostile military alliance (considering our country the foremost goal) can only
        2. Bat039
          Bat039 15 June 2020 22: 51 New
          +7
          This is a trained military pilot of the NATO country, which imposed sanctions against the Russian Federation and other sacrilege ... This pilot will bomb the Russian Federation, if ordered, so this is a potential enemy and killer of the Russian people ... You don’t need to spare those ... You are crazy came down if you expect from the country that issued the medal - For victory in the Cold War - and longs for the collapse of the Russian Federation a good relationship with itself and Russia !!!
      2. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 15 June 2020 18: 37 New
        +1
        And to me, I'm talking about the pilot, somehow violet. Why should I worry about the fate of the pilot of a state hostile to my country?
        This is either dementia or hypocrisy.
        Mattress workers have publicly announced that Russia is an enemy. What else do they need to do to make the local humanists believe this? Burn half of Russia?

        And where does the pilot?
        A pilot is an ordinary soldier; he does not stand at the helm of the country and does not declare enemies to the right and left. Yes, even if he announced, then you would not know about it, unless you were sitting on his Facebook or Tweeter page.
        A pilot can be a family, children or a cat who are waiting for him at home. Only for this reason, purely on the human side, I wish that the guy be saved!
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 15 June 2020 20: 25 New
          +5
          Quote: Jack O'Neill
          A pilot can be a family, children or a cat who are waiting for him at home. Only for this reason, purely on the human side, I wish that the guy be saved!

          There today the water temperature is +11, so there is no way to survive in such water for a long time and if it was not found in the first hour, then the chances of salvation are minimal.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 15 June 2020 17: 18 New
    -6
    We wish the rescue service success.
  5. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 June 2020 17: 25 New
    +1
    Usually rescuers work with them promptly. But it’s not a fact that they managed to eject.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 16 June 2020 18: 34 New
      0
      Did not have time. Peace be upon him, condolences to the family.
  6. antivirus
    antivirus 15 June 2020 17: 31 New
    -1
    Gazprom is to blame - empty gas pipelines at the bottom of the sea are used to transmit electric energy, magnetic disturbances brought down the avionics of the aircraft. Gazprom is behind - of course GDP, personally
  7. Andrea
    Andrea 15 June 2020 17: 32 New
    +7
    This is bad luck, and in the Bermuda Triangle it would be much more comfortable to disappear. They are not sitting in a puddle.
  8. askort154
    askort154 15 June 2020 17: 42 New
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    Oh, oh, what we are here on the "sofas" - merciful. And who is the most recent enemy of the Anglo-Saxons today ?! They no longer hesitate to call it not veiled, as before - "the alleged enemy", and in plain text - our current military enemy, Russia. And here we dissolve the snot - like, most importantly, the pilot is alive. But he will board another plane and be ready to bomb Russian territories, or to shoot down planes, as in Japan, or Yugoslavia, etc. Now the plane is less valued than the training of a professional pilot. Therefore, no moaning over the death of our potential enemy. Mercy must be shown in other life problems, which are much greater.
    1. Jack O'Neill
      Jack O'Neill 15 June 2020 18: 41 New
      -4
      By your logic, the Americans should not have saved the guys from the T-36 barge? After all, they are enemies, they will board another barge and that’s all there is to it?
    2. businessv
      businessv 15 June 2020 22: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      They no longer hesitate to call it not veiled, as before - "the alleged enemy", and in plain text - our current military enemy, Russia.
      Listen, discuss arrogant Saxons - wasting time in vain! They have always been, are and will be our enemy! Is always! And they never hesitated to voice it, only we for some hell always tried to please them! Rather, our rulers tried, especially after 1991, having surrendered the country to them on a platter. The EBN drunk really threw all the secrets of the defense to them, inciting Kuchma to cooperate with them, at the time of his leadership Yuzhmash (where Satan was made) in Dnepropetrovsk! But we are people, and we must remain so, and mercy and compassion have always been in honor with the Slavs!
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 15 June 2020 17: 58 New
    0
    This is a US Air Force aircraft, which, according to the latest data, belonged to the 48th fighter aviation regiment of the United States.
    Not a regiment, but an air wing 48. Consists of 4 ninety-two and 4 ninety-three squadrons, they are easy to read in review photos, because the keel bear the abbreviation LN / Lakenhitl /.

  10. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 June 2020 18: 07 New
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    Enemy to regret? Anglo-Saxons scream to the whole world that Russia is their main enemy! Therefore, the more they burn, fall and drown, the less quantity of enemy equipment left by the lost amount!
    1. vvvaunavi
      vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 18: 21 New
      -21
      Was it frugality talking to you?
      Do not be afraid, they are still riveting.
      And who is the enemy is Kiselev all over the world voiced about radioactive ash. Yes, and Khrushchev was noted in due time.
      Nothing new. Onizh will die, and you to paradise ... laughing .
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 15 June 2020 18: 25 New
        +9
        Vanadium, I didn’t pass horses with you, do not poke! And Kiselev is on my drum, I use my head, I don’t watch all these political shows, there’s a lot of talkery about anything there!
        1. vvvaunavi
          vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 18: 49 New
          -17
          Lord ....

          Cows graze, horses walk.
          By the way, there are no sharks where the plane crashed, so the "zoologist" is YOU ..

          And the appeal to you is normally accepted on the forums.
          Or are you from the former officials?
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 15 June 2020 23: 25 New
            +7
            There are sharks in the North Sea. Learn the materiel.
            1. tolmachiev51
              tolmachiev51 16 June 2020 04: 10 New
              +3
              Killer whales !!! sharks are fish compared to them.
  11. Eldorado
    Eldorado 15 June 2020 18: 19 New
    -4
    I hope the pilot will be found!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 15 June 2020 18: 26 New
      +7
      Eldorado -Vitaliy, find in the stomach of a shark!
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 15 June 2020 18: 37 New
        +5
        Just not Eldorado, in Eldorado, okay?
        Eldorado is a mysterious city full of gold and other treasures that the Spanish conquistadors and other dashing guys have unsuccessfully searched for for three centuries. wink
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 15 June 2020 18: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: El Dorado
      I hope the pilot will be found!

      In the morning they are looking for whom they will find?
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 15 June 2020 19: 00 New
        +3
        Well, at least the body ...
  12. bober1982
    bober1982 15 June 2020 18: 22 New
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    If our plane fell into the sea, the screech would have been universal, all the rescue services would have been cursed.
    They have what - where is their MSS? What pilot (s) they will now find, some boots and will find, if they come up, boots.
    1. vvvaunavi
      vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 18: 44 New
      -13
      Do you recall the Su-34 in the last glld?
      Who was saved?
      It turned out that HP was simply not trained to use the means of salvation.

      http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=28585&p=3
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 15 June 2020 18: 46 New
        +8
        Quote: vvvaunavi
        It turned out that HP is simply not trained to use the means of salvation

        And this one is trained, he has long been at the bottom of the sea.
        The American PSS system - killers !!!
        1. vvvaunavi
          vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 19: 12 New
          -11
          Are you familiar with domestic CAPS?
          Passed training in the PDS?
          Do you have an entry in the flight book?
          Do you know the characteristics of the equipment and the statistics of those saved from them and with us?

          Questions are rhetorical.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 15 June 2020 19: 16 New
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            Quote: vvvaunavi
            Are you familiar with domestic CAPS?
            Passed training in the PDS?
            Do you have an entry in the flight book?
            Do you know the characteristics of the equipment and the statistics of those saved from them and with us?

            I know, passed and have tolerances in the flight book. Then what?
            1. vvvaunavi
              vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 20: 27 New
              -10
              Scan of the flight book. And the issue is resolved.
              I posted my post here half a year ago.
              There is already a Pyramidon with an avatar of Tu-95, which has "25 years of service" ....
              1. vvvaunavi
                vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 20: 43 New
                -11
                By the way, there is also a comrade kit88 who not so long ago bez310 Misha Bezlyudov, a former NSH 310 OPLAP from Mongohto, proved the existence of secret paper, which he gave out to pilots.
                When asked about the name of the document, a tantrum happened with the person.
                So there’s no word of faith here for anyone am
                1. kit88
                  kit88 15 June 2020 21: 23 New
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                  Well, I am this kit88.
                  I did not understand, what should I remember the names of all the papers that were in the secret box in the DS? And as a DSCH I gave them away.
                  I have this information contained in them before the lantern. I don’t need to remember it, it’s not my responsibilities that are written in them.
                  And your "former NS" got to the bottom like a drunk on the radio - let's remember the name of the piece of paper that you read 25 years ago.
                  What's the problem?
                  1. vvvaunavi
                    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 09: 05 New
                    -6
                    Because there is no such document.
                    I, too, after leaving with LR, stacked, from the first, the second, to the first part.
                    I remember the names of the documents I worked with, even some order numbers, although I quit in 1990.
                    And our former nachstroy, with whom on Skype, remembers almost all the surnames who served with us.
                    Well lied milking Pontus, say so.
                2. kit88
                  kit88 15 June 2020 22: 48 New
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                  Quote: vvvaunavi
                  By the way, there is still comrade kit88 who not so long ago

                  Yes, and more.
                  The quote above directly concerns me, so be so kind as to clarify your words. What does it mean there?
                  1. vvvaunavi
                    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 10: 37 New
                    -5
                    There are. Will it do?

                    Why was the surprise?
                    The support of foreign goals was discussed.
                    The combat readiness and combat alert are documents-orders of the Moscow Region and the General Directive.
                    Both SS.
                    Their ignorance and non-fulfillment, minimum dismissal.
                    Therefore, NS knows such and parallel dock by heart. He is preparing a dock com shelf for signature. By the way, his twin brother graduated from the NSh 77 OPLAP Nikolaevka service, where I started the service, IL-38.
                    Therefore, Bezlyudov also expressed bewilderment, because 310 APLAP performs the tasks of military service. And he knows everything about it, since the Tu-142 is a carrier of a nuclear weapon.
                    Do not believe me, he wrote several books.
                    In the network of Bezlyudov "Naval aviation is."
                    The forum of the same name, he created it.
                    1. kit88
                      kit88 16 June 2020 11: 31 New
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                      Yo mine. Guys. Why are you writing here.
                      What I lied there for a show off.
                      What was not in the box of such a document?
                      Listen, we’ve almost figured out the issue. You remember everything in your work, I remember in my own way. But why the root crop should I, an engineer, know by heart the numbers of orders and directives relating to escorting aircraft? Why haven’t my duties been enough? I didn’t need it when I served, especially since I can’t remember it now.
                      I remember some of the most interesting moments from these documents, but what was the name of the radio bearer calling card, for example, excuse me, I forgot it.
                      What is canceled? The subject of discussion on that thread was (not with your NS, but with another user by the way) that the military are approaching violators without adhering to the general rules for civil courts - my opponent argued the opposite. What's wrong?
                      Well, let's not talk about the adversary. Going to KSHU. On assignment, the crew of our regiment was to intercept Tu-shku 134 and inform her number in confirmation. According to "operational data" obtained through its channels, the number was supposed to be XXXX, which, just in case, was reported to the interceptor pilot. The pilot returned from the mission - says the number YYYY request . Offset.
                      According to civil rules, you cannot fly closer than 5 km, everything closer than 2,5 km is a dangerous approach. And can I read the letters and numbers of the board from such a distance?

                      I don’t understand what you don’t like? I come back to the question. What did I "lie"?
                      1. vvvaunavi
                        vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 13: 08 New
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                        Aviation 500 meters, ship 3 km, Aircraft carrier 5, from the take-off-landing course, 12 km, during flights.
                        Himself repeatedly flew out to identify. And from Primorye and from Aden and Ethiopia.
                        They brought it like that.
                3. kit88
                  kit88 16 June 2020 12: 07 New
                  +8
                  You, for example, know that on the Su-27 with a complete failure of radio communications, which was a prerequisite for the LP, when the volume is checked, the SA is disconnected, the communication on other channels is checked, the communication through the backup radio station is checked, the possibility of reception through the port is checked ( Azure) ", reception through 21 channels is checked - the result is zero - silence. Then you can switch to closed communication, even if the T-820-01 closed communication unit is not physically installed on the plane. And the reception will appear!
                  Because in the MN-22 switching unit, double redundancy of the passage of open communication signals is implemented, and when one of the backup channels fails, this malfunction does not appear, and when the second channel fails, the connection goes completely off. And to identify this malfunction is possible only at 72-month r / r. But when you turn on the CA toggle switch on the B-7A-DLA, the signals are already not going through the MN-22, but through the MN-23 and the RECEIVING (reception only) will be restored.
                  This is not (was not) in the documents on the crew’s action in case of a p / connection failure. This feature was discovered experimentally and brought to l / s.

                  You know that?
                  No.
                  Because you do not need it.
                  1. vvvaunavi
                    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 13: 11 New
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                    So we did not understand each other.
                    It was about issuing to the flight crew some closed documents related to combat duty.
                    They’d answer simply by iron and the question is closed,
              2. bober1982
                bober1982 15 June 2020 22: 43 New
                +9
                Quote: vvvaunavi
                Scan of the flight book. And the issue is resolved.

                Have you already tired of this scan from the flight book, or maybe from someone else's book? Post your passport data and photos, certified by a notary.
                He likes to fly. He is fully prepared for flights .......
                Dear comrade, why are you bringing all this bullshit? Yes, and such an ugly filling of the flight book itself, with such a clumsy handwriting, how can you fill out a book? They taught at the Be-12, or at the school named after the Proletariat of Donbass. At least they would not be dishonored.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 06: 24 New
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                  can you fill out a book with such clumsy handwriting? .... yeah, I doubt that you will read the epicrisis written by the therapist (just like other medical specialists), so that not everyone becomes caliphs, or rather units
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 16 June 2020 07: 13 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                    so that not everyone becomes calligraphers, or rather units

                    Comrade Alex, that he so stupidly put his page from the flight book - an aviation navigator, and this is the intelligentsia of aviation, that is, accuracy, punctuality, caution (a little cowardice), rulers and well-sharpened pencils.
                    The flight book itself is the face of the navigator (pilot), and a comparison with a pharmacy is inappropriate.
                    For such keeping a flight book - on the head would be tapped, checking, by the book itself.
                    1. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 07: 22 New
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                      For such maintaining a flight book - on the head would be ........ this is not a reason for panic, I knowingly noted the emphasis of doctors (and these are representatives of universities), and I myself have a better handwriting, given the fact that the latter The GDZS link was 5 years old, which means maintaining official documentation, I repeat, not everyone is born of caligraphs, units, and only the stubborn can reproach for this
                      1. bober1982
                        bober1982 16 June 2020 07: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        given the fact that the last 5 years there was a commissar

                        What is your demand, if there was a pencil stub in your pocket, and that’s good.
                      2. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 07: 32 New
                        0
                        What kind of demand is it with you, ...... well, the demand is such that filling out a card of gas smoke protection fighters after working in the Breathing and Vision Protection Apparatus (AZODZ) directly affects the financial allowance, sometimes up to 10 rubles a month for everyone. so you can’t get off with a pencil
                      3. bober1982
                        bober1982 16 June 2020 07: 33 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        that filling out the card of fighters of gas smoke protection after working in the apparatus for the protection of the respiratory and vision organs (AZODZ)

                        I thought you were a pilot.
                      4. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 07: 38 New
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                        I thought you were a pilot ..... and there is no difference in the maintenance of official documentation, the caligraphic handwriting is needed in completely different structures, that's about it, about your run over Alex
                      5. bober1982
                        bober1982 16 June 2020 07: 45 New
                        0
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        and there is no difference when maintaining official documentation

                        You did not serve in aviation; you have a poor idea of ​​how the official documentation is kept, and at what high level of staff and navigational culture.
                      6. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 07: 55 New
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                        official documentation is being maintained, at what high level ....... I repeat once again, there is no difference, for the useless official documentation being heard on the carpet in the office where you will be a "float", a rather depressing process, more than once the float was
                      7. bober1982
                        bober1982 16 June 2020 07: 57 New
                        +1
                        We had different departments, everything was simpler - they would just poke a book in the face (comasco, link commander).
                        And practice navigational culture.
                      8. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 08: 00 New
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                        And, work out the navigational culture ...... and what, let me ask, did the writing get better from this? I doubt
                      9. bober1982
                        bober1982 16 June 2020 08: 02 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        .and what, let me ask, did the handwriting get better from this? I doubt

                        Of course, the handwriting improved - if you don’t want, we’ll make it, you don’t know how, we will teach it.
                      10. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 08: 05 New
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                        Of course, the handwriting improved ....... it is almost impossible to suppress the instinct, it needs control, and superfluous control is an extra time, so there is what it is
                      11. bober1982
                        bober1982 16 June 2020 08: 11 New
                        +1
                        A conversation becomes meaningless.
                        Aviation is one complete control of everything and everything.
                      12. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 08: 14 New
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                        Aviation is one complete control of everything and everything ..... yes everywhere it is, but instinct, his mother is like that. . even flying even crawling alike
                    2. vvvaunavi
                      vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 10: 27 New
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                      Some of the crew asked to fill out for them, especially the control sections. This is important for pilots.
                      But rarely. Usually they filled out themselves.
                    3. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 10: 46 New
                      +1
                      Some of the crew asked to fill out for them, especially the control sections. This is important for pilots.
                      But rarely. Usually they filled in themselves ...... but here Alex is not good to lie, in any power structure cards are filled in by responsible persons. with entry in a specific audit trail ... because who are YOURSELF. that is, the pilots themselves? It can not be. this is food for the military prosecutor
                    4. vvvaunavi
                      vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 13: 25 New
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                      Many things were done in the cell in secret.
                      This is the second family. The flight book is a document of individual registration of plaque and combat applications.
                      This is the basis, but each year an order was issued on the part of the raid individually and this was the basis for accruing the length of service for a year for two, class, bonuses at the end of the year and other things.
                      If there were problems, they could be counted according to the data of the LC, but I don’t remember this.
                      Why should I lie? Am I afraid of something and trying to impersonate another?
                      For example, on the MA website, everyone presented themselves on call, each had a dozen joint connections, colleagues, friends of friends, etc.
                      About the general photo, and I am there.
                      For lies it will be a shame.
                      And here strange people write, posing as incomprehensible for what.
                    5. Crimean partisan 1974
                      Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 14: 06 New
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                      This is the second family .... exactly. offspring. , photo-pupil. you can immediately see Alex from ours. from the military fraternity, though in my case the word "military" was excluded in the official documentation. that is, combat trips. combat area, etc., this word was replaced by "" ... operational. nevertheless, brotherhood is brotherhood .... to your flyers, take-off is equal to landing on your mother Earth, and to my colleagues without death, both on one and the other
        2. vvvaunavi
          vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 09: 09 New
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          )))
          NSh is responsible for the correct conduct of the lux, he sets the print.
          I checked it myself weekly, especially since they were stored in the headquarters in my closet.
          Commanders monitored tolerances and deadlines.
          Well, you do not write nonsense.
        3. bober1982
          bober1982 16 June 2020 09: 23 New
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          Quote: vvvaunavi
          For the correct conduct of the lx is responsible nsh

          And, such nonsense says a graduate of VVVAUSH
          NS - the main squadron supply manager, it has always been so.
        4. vvvaunavi
          vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 10: 21 New
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          You are talking nonsense again. 122 OPLAE Yelizovo.
          Separate, with its personnel officer, drill, press, historical magazine and other things.
        5. bober1982
          bober1982 16 June 2020 10: 28 New
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          Quote: vvvaunavi
          Separate, with its personnel officer, drill, press, historical magazine and other things.

          Powerful.
          Who was in charge of the shovels and buckets of the OPLAE, the navigator of the OPLAE?
          All the best to you, after all, they ate one navigational bread.
        6. vvvaunavi
          vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 13: 27 New
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          Foreman of a company.
          Deputy for IAS.
          The beginning of the TEC.
        7. bober1982
          bober1982 16 June 2020 13: 31 New
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          Quote: vvvaunavi
          Deputy for IAS.
          The beginning of the TEC.

          ???, what kind of military unit did you have, where the NS controlled the conduct of the aircraft, and the engineers considered buckets with shovels.
          Well, they talked, enough is enough, everyone remained at his own.
  13. vvvaunavi
    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 09: 01 New
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    What a pilot)))
    He is not even aware that there is a section -Rules for maintaining lux.
    FILLED IN A REASONABLE, legible handwriting.
    Well, what are we talking about?
  14. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 09: 09 New
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    It is filled with a CLEAR legible handwriting ...... explain what a clear and legible handwriting is ...... well, of course, shorthand. difficult, but what is a clear and legible handwriting?
  15. vvvaunavi
    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 10: 24 New
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    At the discretion of NSh.
    So in lx it is written.-Clearly legible.
    Likely to be readable without difficulty.
    At one time it was filled only with ink.
    If interested, I can lay out scans. But later, now in the country.
    I have three of them.
    School and two are already an officer.
  16. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 16 June 2020 10: 33 New
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    Likely to be readable without difficulty ..... well then I will explain. CLEAR AND DISTINCTIVE this is written in print (usually at the prosecutor's office when you write explanatory letters). and capital letters are written as taught at school. Well, ability, it depends on the psychology of man. choleric. sanguine and so on, choleric is unusual to bore yourself with even letters and tilt ... by the way about the cottage. I'm just on it. and what do you have no net in the country?
  17. bober1982
    bober1982 16 June 2020 09: 25 New
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    Quote: vvvaunavi
    FILLED IN A REASONABLE, legible handwriting.

    You yourself made a stupid record with your clumsy hand ....... likes to fly, especially to dive.
    Kuram laughs.
  18. vvvaunavi
    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 10: 25 New
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    Typical record, so everyone wrote. Standard.

    Everything is clear to me with you.
    I will not answer you, I am not a psychiatrist.
  19. bober1982
    bober1982 16 June 2020 10: 30 New
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    Quote: vvvaunavi
    Typical Record

    Why put on public display, all these nonsense of the past era.
  20. vvvaunavi
    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 13: 28 New
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    Put up “smarts,” but yours, we’ll discuss and laugh together.
    In the meantime, chatterbox, sorry)))
  • vvvaunavi
    vvvaunavi 16 June 2020 08: 57 New
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    This is decent people called jumping from the topic.
    LK will not be, I understand correctly?
    Another fake military was added to the list.
  • Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 15 June 2020 20: 20 New
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    For example, a screech: We are still flying planes 50 years ago. And the most powerful one, to paraphrase this situation: This incident is Trump's personal fault. laughing
  • Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 15 June 2020 21: 32 New
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    Quote: bober1982
    what - where is their pss? .

    By the way, in vain you are like this: the usaf / usmc / usn PSS, aka Search and Rescue, as well as the Combat SAR are of a very high level: there is something to peek
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  • Mustachioed Georgian
    Mustachioed Georgian 15 June 2020 20: 41 New
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    Enemy There is an Enemy; if it is killed, this is damage to the enemy, let him have a family and a cat with a dog at home. The same ones sat at the helms at 41, this made it not easier for us and we do not need to build today's kolisurengoy.
  • Wolf
    Wolf 15 June 2020 21: 15 New
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    If they fell into the North Sea, are they dead already, how long can a person survive in cold water? without protection 4-10 minutes, with protection a little more.
  • agoran
    agoran 15 June 2020 21: 42 New
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    I read bourgeois forums. Comments one to one.
    In the event of an accident / disaster in the Russian Federation, air force veterans from the same America wish recovery and life.
    And what about ours, that penetrators, couch experts wish evil.
    On the topic: good luck in the work of the MSS.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 June 2020 22: 43 New
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      Quote: agoran
      Comments one to one.
      In the event of an accident / disaster in the Russian Federation, air force veterans from the same America wish recovery and life.

      Let you not believe ...
  • Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 15 June 2020 21: 54 New
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    Man is extremely sorry.
  • Gate68
    Gate68 15 June 2020 22: 06 New
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    At RIA, news passed that a pilot was killed
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 16 June 2020 04: 03 New
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    Sorry for the pilot !!! the chances of survival are almost zero.
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  • Artura
    Artura 16 June 2020 05: 51 New
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    The pilot did not survive, found his body ..
  • begemot20091
    begemot20091 16 June 2020 12: 01 New
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    Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
    For such maintaining a flight book - on the head would be ........ this is not a reason for panic, I knowingly noted the emphasis of doctors (and these are representatives of universities), and I myself have a better handwriting, given the fact that the latter The GDZS link was 5 years old, which means maintaining official documentation, I repeat, not everyone is born of caligraphs, units, and only the stubborn can reproach for this

    I’m not a pilot and I don’t drown your professional disputes, but handwriting is ... grief. It says so on my ID card that the therapist is resting. but, dear "Crimean partisan", you don’t need to become like the victims of the exam: "emphasizing "- it is written = Handwriting, "not all are born by calligraphers" it is written = not all are born by CALLIGRAPHES, and only the word "units" written = ONE. And more: free-will, doctor and doctor, the word synonyms. But the diploma says "Pediatrician", "Neurologist" ....