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Head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: We need ships with missile weapons to meet NATO standards

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The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine announced negotiations on reformatting the naval forces of Ukraine to the NATO standard.


The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andriy Taran announced negotiations during the ceremony of introducing the new commander-in-chief of the Navy to the personnel of the military base in Odessa. Recall that a few days earlier, the decree on the appointment of a new commander-in-chief of the naval forces of Ukraine was signed by President Vladimir Zelensky. The Commander-in-Chief, as already reported by Military Review, Rear Admiral Alexei Neizhpap was appointed. And his predecessor, Igor Voronchenko, received a new post - the chief inspector of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

According to Taran, the Navy should develop in three main areas, agreed with the president of the country. Firstly, the need to provide modern naval personnel with missile weapons, marine aviation, means of electronic warfare. Taran also included the development of coastal infrastructure in the same component. Secondly, this is the creation of a new system for reconnaissance and monitoring of the situation in the near sea zone, and systems for monitoring the underwater situation. Thirdly, the Minister of Defense of that country called the developed system of naval bases on two seas, the Azov and the Black, the NATO standard, which Ukraine is striving for.

The Minister of Defense of Ukraine said that all these issues are being discussed with foreign partners. According to Andrei Taran, he was negotiating compliance fleet Ukraine's standards for the North Atlantic Alliance during its visits to Germany and France.

About at whose expense the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is going to renew the fleet with new ships with missile weapons and electronic warfare, Andriy Taran did not inform the audience.
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  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 June 2020 16: 11 New
    32
    Ukraine, in its current state, "needs" brothels "to match NATO soldiers." This is all that this country can afford, economically and morally ..
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 15 June 2020 16: 15 New
      +9
      Head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: We need ships with missile weapons to meet NATO standards

      Frank nonsense, I will not comment.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 15 June 2020 16: 30 New
        -3
        I will not comment.

        --- in vain. according to NATO standards, and aircraft carriers should be, which of the neighboring countries will give in to the land for expansion-digging of the Black Sea (and there’s not enough in the pool in Odessa) ???
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 15 June 2020 19: 55 New
          -1
          And the point is to drive an aircraft carrier into the Black Sea? If it shoots right through, then no air group will save
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 15 June 2020 20: 23 New
            -2
            from Black there will be (with a dig) the Ukrian, "the blue and yellow sea of ​​mine is the most blue and yellow."
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 15 June 2020 21: 04 New
              -2
              Senior partners in NATO, not as bad as they want theirs Kuevsky wards.
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 15 June 2020 21: 37 New
              -2
              Quote: antivirus
              from Black there will be (with a dig) the Ukrian, "the blue and yellow sea of ​​mine is the most blue and yellow."

              No need to fuck a good song ... https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = TQnc8nvyrBA Please! hi
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 June 2020 17: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Frank nonsense, I will not comment.

        Bullshit of course, used boats are bought in the states, where does the money come from for the fleet.
        1. Avior
          Avior 15 June 2020 18: 50 New
          -6
          They don’t quite buy, they pay only for repairs.
          And Ukraine, in fact, is enough small missile boats to indicate a threat.
          For Neptune big ships and
          not necessary .
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 15 June 2020 19: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Avior
            And Ukraine, in fact, is enough small missile boats to indicate a threat.

            I don’t know about the threat, but the admirals got better.
            1. Avior
              Avior 15 June 2020 20: 10 New
              -2
              it goes without saying
          2. Rzzz
            Rzzz 16 June 2020 08: 53 New
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            pay only for repairs.

            Yeah, they only pay as much as they would pay for the purchase of this pelvis.
            Mattresses are not fools either. Perhaps it’s more profitable for them in taxes.
            1. Avior
              Avior 16 June 2020 09: 18 New
              -2
              Not fools.
              Only boats of this class cost several times more than Ukraine paid.
              Even small mark6 without training costs 15 million, 5 paid for training on Iceland, and Iceland is 2,5 times more.
              1. Rzzz
                Rzzz 16 June 2020 09: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Avior
                little mark6 without training costs 15 million

                New or decommissioned?

                And to teach - what is there to teach? In my company, mechanics board new steamships without any training. Taught? Do you know the basic principles? There is a suitcase with instructions, and go.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 16 June 2020 09: 32 New
                  -2
                  new
                  but much less at times.
                  In my company, mechanics board new steamships without any training.

                  But what about crewing?
                  or save?
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 16 June 2020 09: 36 New
                    0
                    What about crewing? Crewing does his job when his staff is not enough.
                    But, as far as I know, we get 10 percent through kruigi. The rest - our personnel resources.
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 16 June 2020 09: 38 New
                      -2
                      clearly save.
                      it is their business.
                      others do not save on study.
                      different approach
                      1. Rzzz
                        Rzzz 16 June 2020 14: 03 New
                        0
                        In the sense of saving? Should we also train people at our own expense?
                        Not. This does not happen anywhere. In principle, it is possible to pay for some courses or certification at the expense of the company, but not to the person "from the street", and under the contract.
      3. halpat
        halpat 15 June 2020 19: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: We need ships with missile weapons to meet NATO standards

        Frank nonsense, I will not comment.

        so everything is already there.
        "Missile weapons." it’s true that a couple of rocket launchers were lost during the incident when approaching the Kerch bridge even when the Petro-Navy leader was playing with a mace.
        but they either threw it away, or pushed it to someone and it did not turn out ...
        smile
    2. ApJlekuHo
      ApJlekuHo 16 June 2020 05: 41 New
      0
      NATO standard, which Ukraine strives for

      "And you gentlemen, no matter how you sit down, everyone is not good at musicians .."
      The Baltic countries, at the time of joining NATO, did not have an army, from the word AT ALL, even to date, the tribals taken together have 10 times less troops than in Ukraine. About the Navy and the Air Force in general, you can not remember.
      NATO’s claim to Ukraine is not in the absence of a combat-ready army, which is essentially there (which there is no one). And in a population hostile to NATO, that’s why this population is so stubbornly and methodically destroying, evicting and calling it integration into the EU.
      In Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania, as early as the 41st, almost the entire population of the countries met with German “liberators” with flowers, like Westerners in Ukraine. But some Selyuk will not be enough. Ukraine is part of the empire, not the slaves of the Baltic states.
  2. Prisoner
    Prisoner 15 June 2020 16: 20 New
    12
    laughing Maybe they are needed. Only who will give them to you? "The Pan of the Ataman has a gold reserve of dumb", some show-offs and a stage stand.
    1. raw174
      raw174 15 June 2020 17: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Captive
      Maybe they are needed. Only who will give them to you?

      They will give it if the owners deem it necessary ... They will give old boats, put good rockets in the slightest degree, and now we can carry out a sabotage ...
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 15 June 2020 20: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: raw174
        They will give old boats, put good rockets in the slightest degree, and here You can carry out a diversion ...

        One. After this diversion with the use of missiles, the Ukrainian misunderstanding will lose the remnants of the fleet.
        1. raw174
          raw174 15 June 2020 21: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          One. After this diversion with the use of missiles, the Ukrainian misunderstanding will lose the remnants of the fleet.

          Not a fact ... Launching a rocket from its waters, during exercises, towards our waters, a bridge, etc., an explanation that it happened by accident, then notes, protests, combat readiness and other reactions ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 15 June 2020 21: 17 New
            +3
            How to know Ravil? Ukraine is already fed up and pissed off, starting from Europe with its gas trousers, ending with Trump, to whom this hemorrhoids weighed by Biden is already standing across his throat, plus he has an election campaign complicated by protests. So it is possible that the “careless” provocative bunch, as a result of which they put the withers on the provocateur, will be to everyone's joy.
            1. raw174
              raw174 16 June 2020 07: 00 New
              -1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Ukraine is already fed up and pissed off, from Europe with its gas trousers, ending with Trump,

              There, in the decaying west, there are no fools in leadership. They have invested in Ukraine and will not surrender without profit. The war of the Russian Federation with Ukraine is good for the West, despite the enthusiastic cries of many, neither in 3 hours, nor in 3 days, nor in 3 months, the Russian Federation will not crush Ukraine, we will bog down this war for years and not win.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 16 June 2020 16: 28 New
                +2
                Quote: raw174
                Despite the enthusiastic cries of many, neither in 3 hours, nor in 3 days, nor in 3 months, the Russian Federation will not crush Ukraine, in this war we will get bogged down for years and not win.

                Yes you give up. During the years of the "victory" of the Maidan, many hate the junta there more than I, the "peacemaker" Barack Obama and McCain put together, but without external support they are afraid to oppose the malicious government because the radicals have power. I believe that if a military conflict occurs with the introduction of Russian troops, a significant part of the population will support the hatching of Svidomo patriots from all the cracks where they will clog. I agree with you only in the sense that some of the carriers of the ideas of "independence" will still remain, as they were during the years of the USSR. Minus not mine hi
    2. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first 15 June 2020 17: 37 New
      +9
      They will. To confront Russia, the Americans do not feel sorry for anything.
      For example, they can give a cruiser of the Ticonderoga type, which they recently removed from the fleet. Moreover, in order to "present" it is necessary to remove the cruiser from sludge and modernize. And this is for the money. Yes, of course, not for real money, but for a loan with interest under the guarantee of black soil.
      As the classics of politics said there: "If you want to ruin the country, give it a cruiser."
      1. Whiteidol
        Whiteidol 19 June 2020 16: 06 New
        0
        They already have one cruiser, so for 30 years they don’t know what to do with it. Why do they need a second? Also put against the wall? "Ticonderoga" needs to be serviced, but it’s not cheap, plus replenishment of ammunition .. If I’m not mistaken, the cruiser "Ukraine" costs one lyam dollars a year, and the "Ticonderoga" will be ruinous for them ....
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Captive
      Maybe they are needed. Only who will give them to you? "At the chief of the ataman the golden stock of dumb"

      And then they said that they would master space, "Where does Zin come from ...?" No way "at the pike dictate at my request" caught a goldfish.
  3. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 15 June 2020 16: 26 New
    +4
    If the Ukrainians were not rams, they would have generally abolished the Navy as a branch of the forces, reorganizing the BOHR and transferring the remnants of the Navy there, and organizing a mine-sweeping group there. Coastal artillery can be quite part of the ground forces as separate divisions. That's all.
    But they will definitely arrange a dance on the rake of naval ambitions, which is good.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 15 June 2020 16: 33 New
      +6
      Ukrians discovered (or dug) Antarctica. forward-looking in the East and Mirny there were couple from Kanev and Zhmerinka. and Lazarev and Belinshausen only submitted reports to Emperor Alexander 1 ..
      1. Avior
        Avior 15 June 2020 18: 52 New
        -2
        Right.
        And the couple from Zhytomyr rockets launched into space ....
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 June 2020 19: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Avior
          And the couple from Zhytomyr rockets launched into space ...

          Do not argue, and when it was.
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 June 2020 20: 20 New
            -2
            Yes, that's how they started to let it go, then it was smile
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 15 June 2020 19: 39 New
          -3
          SPKOROLEV - a stream of diggers of the Black Sea? he himself would not have recognized himself so, no place paints a man ....
          1. Avior
            Avior 15 June 2020 20: 23 New
            -4
            I don’t know about diggers, but he didn’t hesitate about recognizing himself as a Ukrainian ... And the mov did not prevent him from launching rockets.
            1. Thunderbringer
              Thunderbringer 15 June 2020 23: 18 New
              0
              In the USSR, all nations were equal, and together were capable of much.
              It is even sadder to look at the descendants of those Soviet Ukrainians, given the greatness of some of their ancestors.
              1. Avior
                Avior 16 June 2020 06: 40 New
                -4
                And the descendants of Soviet Russian is not sad?
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 16 June 2020 07: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: Avior
                  And the descendants of Soviet Russian is not sad?

                  It’s sad, not sad, but one of the Nazis is not among them and they don’t scream “to the little one”.
                  1. Avior
                    Avior 16 June 2020 08: 36 New
                    -3
                    People see only what they want to see.
                    If your view of “sad” only comes down to this, then you are right.
                    Such can be found in Ukraine.
                    Only you can easily find people with similar appeals to the "Sumerians", as you write, the promo here on the resource in the reviews.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 16 June 2020 09: 37 New
                      0
                      Quote: Avior
                      Only you can easily find people with similar appeals to the "Sumerians", as you write, the promo here on the resource in the reviews.

                      Of course there are some, I do not approve of them, but I do not blame them.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 15 June 2020 17: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Cyril G ...
      If Ukrainians were not rams, they would have generally abolished the Navy as a kind of force,

      And what about the admirals?
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 15 June 2020 17: 45 New
        +3
        Separate marine penal battalion in the ATO ....
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        And what about the admirals?

        Put in the headquarters, one to lead the cleaners, the other janitors, the third watchmen, everyone can be explained.
      3. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 15 June 2020 19: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        And what about the admirals?

        In ukrokosmoflot.
  4. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 15 June 2020 16: 29 New
    +2
    Well, if you install the modified Ukrainian PCP Neptune on some kind of marine carrier, then it may work out and burn out in the long run, but there, besides the ancient TFR Hetman Sagaidachny and American Iceland, there is nothing significant in my opinion
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 06 New
      0
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      Reply

      At the Nikolaev plant, they make lighters, you can place them on them, anchor them, and still have nowhere to go.
    2. Avior
      Avior 15 June 2020 18: 56 New
      -4
      There are still old Vinnitsa and Priluki
  5. boris epstein
    boris epstein 15 June 2020 16: 45 New
    +4
    "About who at the expense of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is going to update the fleet with new ships with missile weapons and electronic warfare, Andriy Taran did not inform the audience."
    Rhetorical question. At the expense of the population, of course. Again they will raise tariffs and prices.
    1. Rubi0
      Rubi0 15 June 2020 17: 19 New
      +1
      Bingo, now they pay already from just 1,5% of the military duty, from the sale / purchase of an apartment of a kefir can car. it’s generally brilliant, I think, to force Russians in Ukraine to pay for their own humiliation. The Russian Federation needs to learn how to behave with the fraternal republics, they gave credit assistance, kindly prescribe in laws that the land can only be sold to Russians, forcing them to pay 4% like Trump for bases, and God forbid bring education medicine and technology
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 15 June 2020 17: 21 New
      0
      Where does the population get such money? No need to interfere. Let the baker dream. They don’t take pennies for dreams. hi
      1. Rubi0
        Rubi0 15 June 2020 17: 29 New
        0
        Only in Kiev over the past year about 35 thousand transactions are immovable, the average price is $ 40-50 thousand, and from this just take 1,5%, just enough for the corvette
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 07 New
      0
      Quote: boris epstein
      At the expense of the population, of course.

      As always, the volunteers will be reset.
  6. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 15 June 2020 16: 51 New
    +1
    No, matches for children are not toys.
  7. K-50
    K-50 15 June 2020 17: 01 New
    +1
    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is going to update the fleet with new missile and electronic warfare ships

    "Matches" to jumpers is not a toy, there are no brains request Everything from jumping atrophied. yes
  8. shoroh
    shoroh 15 June 2020 17: 07 New
    +1
    Americans are in no hurry to give all the best to Ukraine’s defense industry realizing that in a serious conflict it will all go to Russia
    1. cniza
      cniza 15 June 2020 18: 16 New
      +1
      And what were they going to, except scrap metal nothing ...
  9. askort154
    askort154 15 June 2020 17: 11 New
    +1
    According to Andriy Taran, he negotiated on the compliance of the Ukrainian fleet with the standards of the North Atlantic Alliance during his visits to Germany and France.

    Andrey Taran - is it really the offspring of one of them?
    - Grigory Alekseevich Taran, a pilot - a hero of the Soviet Union
    (1912-1948 year of life). Passed all the Second World War, flew to the rear, supplying everything necessary for the partisans and the DRG. He died in 1948 on the hunt. His name is Sasovskoe flight school GA. His son, my classmate, graduated from this school and died in a car accident in the 90s.
    - Pavel Andreevich Taran - a pilot, twice a hero of the USSR.
    Both of these heroes come from Ukraine - a rare surname. If this "Minister of Defense of Ukraine" is of their kind, it is good that his ancestors, Heroes of the USSR, did not live to see this disgrace when Ukraine dreams of becoming a member of those countries against which they fought.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 15 June 2020 17: 40 New
      +2
      If this "Minister of Defense of Ukraine" is of their kind, it is good that his ancestors, Heroes of the USSR, did not live to see this disgrace when Ukraine dreams of becoming a member of those countries against which they fought.


      Born March 4, 1955 in Frankfurt an der Oder (GDR) in the family of a military man who [1] served in a group of Soviet troops in Germany. I really hope that not of their kind. I won’t write about the beginning of the service, but in 1995-1996 I studied at the US National University of Defense in Washington (Eng.), Where I received a master’s qualification in “national resources strategy”. [1]
      And the most interesting thing is that 2016 is fired in reserve due to age.
      Rank. Retired Lieutenant General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      Looks really bad with the shots, since the grandfather was called back!
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      Andrey Taran - is it really the offspring of one of them?

      There was another Taran Andrei Filippovich, the first head of Sevpromrazvedka from 1938 to 1950, in his honor was named BMRT-351 "Captain Andrei Taran" assigned to LenBORF.
  10. Egoza
    Egoza 15 June 2020 17: 23 New
    +2
    How sweet sounds for the Ukrainians ear - "we are discussing with foreign partners"! Well, yes, there NATO needs cannon fodder, well, Ukraine is a soldier to them, and NATO .... deep understanding and moral support. Dream on!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Egoza
      How sweet sounds for the Ukrainians ear - "we are discussing with foreign partners"!

      I wonder who these "partners" are, and whether they exist at all. For a partnership you need to pay in dollars, not in hryvnias.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 15 June 2020 17: 25 New
    +2
    Head of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: We need ships with missile weapons to meet NATO standards

    We ought to laugh, but no way .... Do all NATO members have ships? are they all with missile weapons?
    1. cniza
      cniza 15 June 2020 18: 13 New
      +2
      They were registered there somewhere, so they got excited.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 June 2020 21: 51 New
        +1
        They want a lot, a lot, a lot of toilet paper ... in the footsteps of Mishiko they want. His identity was also recorded there.
        1. cniza
          cniza 15 June 2020 21: 59 New
          +2
          There they collected everything that can be imagined in the negative, it needs talent ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Do all NATO members have ships? are they all with missile weapons?

      Of course not everyone, but the USA, Britain, France have them. According to the Head of the Ministry of Defense, he also considers an equal equal to these three, and wants to be fourth on the list, although these guys with ambitions can consider themselves second after the United States, or maybe ..........?
  12. gurzuf
    gurzuf 15 June 2020 17: 26 New
    +1
    Whatever happens here https://youtu.be/OwaKj6nqHgA we should divide the territory and forget about their worlds.
  13. sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 June 2020 17: 36 New
    +1
    Ukrainian fleet of the open sea? Khokhlseeflotte?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 June 2020 18: 41 New
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      Ukrainian fleet of the open sea? Khokhlseeflotte?

      It’s not about them that the anthem created “Rule, the outskirts, mistress of the seas!”
  14. svp67
    svp67 15 June 2020 17: 47 New
    0
    About at whose expense the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is going to renew the fleet with new ships with missile weapons and electronic warfare, Andriy Taran did not inform the audience.
    At the expense of US taxpayers, this year just the bulk of the allocated 250 million will be aimed at providing the Navy.
    1. Avior
      Avior 15 June 2020 20: 25 New
      -3
      250 million for the fleet will not be enough.
      1. svp67
        svp67 15 June 2020 21: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Avior
        250 million for the fleet will not be enough.

        This is if you build from scratch, and if you transfer the written-off “Island” and “Perry” then you can fit
  15. Katanikotael
    Katanikotael 15 June 2020 17: 51 New
    0
    So they also have light armadillos with anti-tank guns, which were going to rivet hundreds of ala mosquito fleets ...
  16. Tarasios
    Tarasios 15 June 2020 17: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    Ukraine, in its current state, "needs" brothels "to match NATO soldiers." This is all that this country can afford, economically and morally ..

    well, against the background of the pornography that the rulers of Ukraine bred in the country, brothels will be just the standard of virtue and chastity ...;)
    1. cniza
      cniza 15 June 2020 18: 11 New
      +1
      I think they are abundant there, they have no problems in this matter.
  17. cniza
    cniza 15 June 2020 18: 04 New
    +1
    About at whose expense the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is going to renew the fleet with new ships with missile weapons and electronic warfare, Andriy Taran did not inform the audience.


    They apparently hope for presents ...
  18. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 15 June 2020 18: 12 New
    0
    Brains are needed, but where are they from in Ukraine, and even more so in the Ministry of Defense?
  19. Ham
    Ham 15 June 2020 18: 37 New
    0
    neizhpapa says the same thing that Voronchenko said - word for word ...
    on the lips of wretched words the words “NATO standard” sound like a panacea however however you say “halva” - it won’t become sweeter
    there is no money for everything voiced ... and not dreaming
  20. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 15 June 2020 18: 45 New
    -1
    I’m already here as a "fool" painted their desires and the real possibilities of acquiring new F-16 or Saab JAS 39 Gripen planes ........ Napoleon’s plans to acquire rocket yet arrived (knowing my "countrymen" and their aplomb) not boats, but at least corvettes)))))) ... under project 58250 .... with an approximate cost of 282 million dollars per unit ...... but I repeat again: the military budget of Ukraine for 2020 the year TOTAL 246 billion hryvnias, of which 17 billion hryvnias (NOT DOLLARS) are planned for the purchase and development of novae ... and I’m not looking any deeper for how much on the Air Force (read the Navy here) .... i.e. at the moment 635 million dollars .... we think further ...... i.e. Enough for 2,25 korVeta per year)))))) ....... BUT what about plans to buy new airplanes ????? planes fly in the ass ???? ........ shorter than 7 hats from one skin ...... guys are october ... money is not dimensionless and has limitations. "take it by yourself, so as not to fall when walking" (C) ........ It seems you look without sound - serious people ..... turn on the sound - BALABOLS your mother was arrested
  21. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 15 June 2020 18: 53 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    About at whose expense the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is going to renew the fleet with new ships with missile weapons and electronic warfare, Andriy Taran did not inform the audience.
    At the expense of US taxpayers, this year just the bulk of the allocated 250 million will be aimed at providing the Navy.

    it’s not even 1 corvette
    1. svp67
      svp67 15 June 2020 19: 45 New
      0
      Quote: Ovsigovets
      it’s not even 1 corvette

      To the new one, yes, but from the written-off, so completely ... Iceland chio that Oliver Perry already stands in the crap and they are passed to the "allies"
  22. toha124
    toha124 15 June 2020 19: 36 New
    0
    If we discard the known sarcasm (in relation to our neighbors on the globe), then the idea remains that the legs should be stretched across the clothes. Honestly, the previous talk about the mosquito fleet is much more consistent with the real situation.
  23. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 15 June 2020 19: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: toha124
    If we discard the known sarcasm (in relation to our neighbors on the globe), then the idea remains that the legs should be stretched across the clothes. Honestly, the previous talk about the mosquito fleet is much more consistent with the real situation.

    but how to drop it ??? well, it doesn’t work out ..... right there everything often takes on grotesque forms ..... but here you have a budget and you need something .. differently, BUT it is necessary ..... so count and voice though optimistic plans ... and what are they voicing? some kind of nonsense ... heresy in places - before, for such an inquisition it burned ..... well, you want something nito rocket at sea and NATE will like it ....... well, sound missile boats ..... well, RTOs which -nito ... well, let the corvette, but the corvette, which you can probably pull .... they have a project of the Caracal corvette for 520 tons, the Monsoon for 680 tons, the corvette PC655 for 640 tons ...... do you want with a helicopter? there is a project "Haiduk-M" for 1200 tons ... but these are small corvettes ... less than Muscovites and voila, we have project 58250 "Haiduk" for 2500 tons, but in fact we don’t have a damn))))) Although, on the other hand, it is better for us that they build their cruiser at 26k with a displacement ... so that everything will surely die
    1. Avior
      Avior 15 June 2020 20: 44 New
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      voila we have the project 58250 "Haiduk" for 2500 tons

      From the very beginning it was clear what was being built for the admirals' walks abroad, for various exercises and visits.
  24. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 15 June 2020 20: 05 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    it’s not even 1 corvette

    To the new one, yes, but from the written-off, so completely ... Iceland chio that Oliver Perry already stands in the crap and they are passed to the "allies"

    Iceland is a boat, good, but still a boat ..... and not missile ..... and I don’t know how they will behave if they start to put in anti-ship missiles with all the stray ....... USAA They also seemed to be trying to upgrade them with some disappointing result. "O.H.P" - a worthy unit - but the Americans never give anything - they sell, at a discount - but they sell ...... the same rules ..... a decent amount of ships to pull for maintenance, repair, PSU will be it’s unprofitable, BUT if they “give” it, they are likely to completely destroy the Ukrainian military-industrial complex and this is “also bread”
  25. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 15 June 2020 20: 10 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Ovsigovets
    it’s not even 1 corvette

    To the new one, yes, but from the written-off, so completely ... Iceland chio that Oliver Perry already stands in the crap and they are passed to the "allies"

    and again ... the extreme 1989 release ..... i.e. 31 years minimum ..... even if they were followed - time is inexorably
  26. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 15 June 2020 20: 58 New
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    Quote: Avior
    voila we have the project 58250 "Haiduk" for 2500 tons

    From the very beginning it was clear what was being built for the admirals' walks abroad, for various exercises and visits.

    perhaps the most ungrateful thing is to give out your opinion for the opinion of others ..... but I just judge from experience in communicating with Ukrainians))))) "anyhow not like Muscovites" and this phrase explains a lot, if not all ..... ..the main 58250 is bigger and cooler .... well, at least on paper so
  27. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 15 June 2020 23: 28 New
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    If you want to ruin the country - give it, but rather sell it to the cruiser))
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  29. Kerensky
    Kerensky 16 June 2020 07: 47 New
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    Our boats went "Rocket", hydrofoil. The memory of childhood ...
  30. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 16 June 2020 10: 39 New
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    The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Taran wants to let Ukraine into the world))).

    There’s a base for him, there’s a base, a radar, a network of submarine GAS, electronic warfare))) Hopefully, the NATO countries will give him all this ?!

    Success with copying the X-35 turned the heads of Ukrainian generals.