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On a promising system for combating hypersonic weapons: in the wake of Putin's statement

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In addition to its own hypersonic weapons, Russia also creates means to combat the hypersonic weapons of a potential adversary. This was stated by President Vladimir Putin in a recent interview. Let's try to follow the trail of the presidential statement in this regard.


The successes of the Russian state in creating hypersonic missiles are well known. Russia, according to Putin, is in a unique position today, as it remains the only country in the world that has hypersonic weapons. The appearance of the first hypersonic weapon in Russia was also announced by US President Donald Trump. However, other countries do not stop working on its creation and sooner or later they will have it, so it is necessary to prepare for its appearance.

What is meant by anti-hypersonic weapons?


Of course, these will be anti-missiles capable of intercepting missiles moving at least 5-6 times faster than sound. At present, the Russian missile defense system can effectively counter ballistic missiles that are unable to maneuver. In order to adapt the missile defense system also to counter hypersonic strike weapons, very serious developments will be required. But since the president announced the imminent appearance of such funds, there is no doubt that these developments are underway.

It is possible that systems to counter hypersonic weapons will be fully automated. Since the speed of hypersonic missiles is very high, there will be no time for the operator to quickly verify the information, analyze it and make the final decision on the destruction of such a missile. Accordingly, this task will have to be entrusted to the computer.

That is, the entire anti-hypersonic weapon control system will be automated. There will also be a need to develop a missile defense guidance system that will allow you to act against targets flying at very high speeds. Management and guidance will thus become the main directions for the modernization of missile defense to counter hypersonic weapons.

As for the missile defense itself, more serious requirements will also be imposed on them than on conventional missile defense. Indeed, hypersonic speed and, especially, maneuvering on it, imply very high loads on the rocket itself. This means that a new solution has yet to be found (or already found, but not yet reported) about the materials used to create the missile defense. Of course, new engines will be required to create.


At the beginning of 2020, it became known about the decision to develop a multifunctional long-range interception missile system (IFRC DP), which could destroy hypersonic targets. Such a complex will be installed on MiG-31 fighter jets and promising MiG-41 fighter jets already in service. Aircraft operating in a single information space will only produce ultra-long-range missiles in the required area. Target detection is the task of ground-based radars and early warning radars.

By the way, the development of means to destroy hypersonic missiles is currently beginning in the United States. This issue is being addressed by DARPA (the US Department of Defense department responsible for promising research projects). So far, only a few million dollars has been allocated for the development of anti-hypersonic weapons, but it is clear that this is only the start in a long and difficult way to create a system of protection against the latest missiles.

One of the directions for the development of anti-hypersonic weapons is combat laser systems. In the future, it is about creating a kind of laser "network", passing through which either the hypersonic missile module will "burn out" the electronics, or the spatial orientation of the ammunition will be violated.
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  1. Far B
    Far B 15 June 2020 09: 59 New
    -5
    If the president said - it will be, wait, then it will be, wait. And there is no reason to ask again every year and pester with the question "when?" Wait! Will be!
    1. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 15 June 2020 10: 48 New
      -10
      Quote: Dalny V
      If the president said - it will be, wait, then it will be, wait. And there is no reason to ask again every year and pester with the question "when?" Wait! Will be!

      Until the cartoon is shown, we won’t believe it!
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 15 June 2020 11: 05 New
        17
        I remember some very oslo-witty gentlemen about cartoons already joking, now they scratch their heads, they say a mistake came out. "Cartoons" are already on alert. hi p. s: What about weapons? The longer they do not believe, the better. Surprise will be.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 15 June 2020 13: 14 New
          -7
          I’ll add about aircraft carriers - if it is cheaper for the country's leadership to build a new capital in ZapSiberia, due to a decrease in flight time to Moscow - they will build on Ishim and etc., concrete cubes and an area for parades, AND AIR CARRIERS WILL NOT BE AGAIN 70 TONS AGAIN BUILD (WITH SORTS OR WITHOUT).
          An anti-hyper rocket is cheaper than a trough - my sadness is great, I grieve along with all the sea people. Shoigu is to blame for everything .... or the development of hypersound in the USA?
        2. kris_67
          kris_67 15 June 2020 14: 58 New
          -3
          "already on alert" - what are you talking about?
          1. Prisoner
            Prisoner 15 June 2020 15: 46 New
            +8
            Are you esto-o-o-o-onets? Or, basically, don’t read newspapers and watch TV? hi
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 15 June 2020 23: 13 New
              +4
              Quote: Captive
              Are you esto-o-o-o-onets? Or, basically, don’t read newspapers and watch TV? hi

              I am Russian - but the same I don’t know yet, which of the cartoons that I saw is "already on alert" - enlighten, pzhlalsta !!! hi
        3. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 16 June 2020 04: 38 New
          -5
          Quote: Captive
          "Cartoons" are already on alert

          You yourself said everything.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 15 June 2020 11: 08 New
        -17
        Quote: pmkemcity
        Until the cartoon is shown, we won’t believe it!

        I am very sorry hi but I’m already sick of this mug, even if she says nothing. hi
        1. Civil
          Civil 15 June 2020 11: 37 New
          -5
          Well, hold on Vladimir Vladimirovich, right now you will get the rating corrected for the most do not spoil) lol
          Do not dare to offend the honored President of the Russian Federation, he has 20 years of experience.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 15 June 2020 11: 52 New
            -17
            Quote: Civil
            Do not dare to offend the honored President of the Russian Federation, he has 20 years of experience.

            Quote: Civil
            Do not dare to offend the honored President of the Russian Federation, he has 20 years of experience.

            We "love" him and grieve. wink
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 16 June 2020 06: 55 New
              0
              It’s good that clowns can only arrange circus shows, but they can’t do anything in the case.
        2. Mitroha
          Mitroha 15 June 2020 12: 50 New
          +4
          "but I am already sick of this face," - Malyuta, don't look like that. Or is your diet like this
          1. Prisoner
            Prisoner 15 June 2020 15: 48 New
            +5
            Maybe pregnant?
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 16 June 2020 06: 55 New
              +1
              And see not the first time
        3. DVR
          DVR 15 June 2020 22: 09 New
          +3
          but I'm already sick of this mug,

          Pouring shit for days, continuously working with excrement - anyone will feel sick, I understand you.
          1. AnderS
            AnderS 16 June 2020 14: 19 New
            -4
            Pouring shit for days, continuously working with excrement

            Are you talking about the resident and his friends?
            1. The comment was deleted.
            2. DVR
              DVR 16 June 2020 15: 15 New
              +3
              Are you talking about the resident and his friends?

              It's hard to make out what you mean. To just explain, I wrote about Malyuta. He complains of nausea, and I want to help him. I explained to Malyuta the cause of the nausea, and now he knows how to get rid of it.
        4. tvgpvo
          tvgpvo 19 June 2020 20: 16 New
          0
          Get away from the mirror, maybe he will.
  2. vvvjak
    vvvjak 15 June 2020 10: 00 New
    0
    ABM announced C 600.
  3. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 15 June 2020 10: 03 New
    -2
    A missile against a missile at super-speeds and maneuvering is a dead end, the counter-missile must deliver and put up a "curtain" from the fact that it will not allow protecting the missile on hypersonic from destruction .... and for this hyper-anti-hyper-missile (in, as I called laughing ) to create does not make sense, you can leave existing ones.
    1. prodi
      prodi 15 June 2020 12: 33 New
      0
      and most likely, this "curtain" will be from a series of small nuclear barrage explosions
    2. Roman123567
      Roman123567 15 June 2020 12: 50 New
      -5
      creating does not make sense, you can leave existing ones.

      It seems to me that nobody really creates anything there ..
      Just trump with Putin lohtoratu hyper-duper ride on the ears ..
    3. Nosgoth
      Nosgoth 16 June 2020 06: 56 New
      +1
      You haven't been told exactly what the interception will be, but you have already drawn conclusions and "condemned".
  4. fider
    fider 15 June 2020 10: 04 New
    +5
    There is no information in the article; therefore, there is nothing to discuss.
  5. KCA
    KCA 15 June 2020 10: 10 New
    +6
    I wonder what kind of power a laser must be in order to fry a rocket already flying in a cloud of plasma?
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 15 June 2020 10: 40 New
      +1
      The same question arose, hypersonic weapons are designed to operate at high temperatures, and the laser is exposed to precisely high temperatures. So interception with a laser is not possible, you need a mechanical shock.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 15 June 2020 11: 07 New
        +1
        Eureka!!! The method of struggle is found !!!
        Aircraft operating in a single information space will only produce ultra-long-range missiles in the required area.
        In the head of the rocket we will place a bucket of nuts. Nobody has this for sure !!! am
        1. Herman 4223
          Herman 4223 15 June 2020 11: 13 New
          0
          As long as the planes rise into the air, the war will end, there will be something more complicated.
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 15 June 2020 11: 17 New
            +2
            So I think that our method has long been known and the weapons themselves, if not yet ready, are "on the way." This is a normal engineering principle. Roughly speaking, if you came up with a bolt, be so kind as to think of how to turn it.
          2. really
            really 15 June 2020 20: 51 New
            +1
            If you arrange a nuclear winter, then these missiles can not do anything, not what.
        2. AnderS
          AnderS 16 June 2020 14: 22 New
          +2
          In the head of the rocket we will place a bucket of nuts.

          Do you propose to follow in the footsteps of Mask and instead of Tesla place AvtoVAZ products in the head part?
    2. astepanov
      astepanov 15 June 2020 11: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: KCA
      What kind of power should be a laser to fry a rocket already flying in a cloud of plasma?

      Let's figure it out. The Galileo probe was designed for a thermal load of 100 MJ / cm100. within 50 s. It had an ablative coating. Probably, "conventional" atomic strategic warheads have about the same. With a laser "range" of 4 km and a warhead speed of 12 km / s (12 M), we have everything for 10 seconds. Let the diameter of the laser spot be 160 cm (unattainably small!), Then the beam cross section is 200 cm square, and the power is 160 MJ / cm square. * 12 cm1340 / 12 s = 70000 MW. This is on the target, and the output from the laser optics should be at least twice as much, at the level of two or three terawatts - three orders of magnitude more than any continuous combat laser. In the active medium of the laser, the power of the order of five to seven terawatts should be "walking". For 18 s - this is about XNUMX MJ, the explosion energy is XNUMX tons of TNT. From which power plant to power this colossus?
      Something like this.
      1. DVR
        DVR 15 June 2020 16: 01 New
        +2
        the laser spot diameter is 10 cm (unattainably small!), then the beam cross section is 160 cm

        Exactly 160 cm10 with a diameter of XNUMX cm?
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 15 June 2020 19: 29 New
          0
          Yes, of course I made a mistake the spot area is half as much. Thank. Accordingly, other numbers of estimates must be proportionally changed. But the essence remains: power needs to be increased by three orders of magnitude compared to what is now. However, all this is considered in detail in the monograph by Velikhov and Arbatov.
          1. DVR
            DVR 15 June 2020 19: 52 New
            0
            Yes, of course I made a mistake the spot area is half as much. Thank. Accordingly, other numbers of estimates must be proportionally changed.

            Yes, nothing, little things, it happens. In general, now these formulas and physical quantities are no longer so easy to give, the university has been left behind for 20 years. I did not understand anything at all with the power calculation, I did not even understand why 200 MJ / cmXNUMX and so on.
        2. Motorist
          Motorist 15 June 2020 22: 32 New
          0
          Quote: DVR
          Exactly 160 cm10 with a diameter of XNUMX cm?

          Looking at what angle you cut! laughing
          1. DVR
            DVR 15 June 2020 23: 01 New
            +1
            Looking at what angle you cut! laughing

            Of course, this is clear to the student. I’m talking about the calculation above, where there is no question of the corners, the conversation is about the beam cross section without additional conditions, which was confirmed by the author of the comment, acknowledging the error:
            Yes, of course I made a mistake the spot area is half as much.

            And so it is clear that the beam cross section will be a curved surface formed by the contact of the beam and the surface of the irradiated object. Just Alex tried to make the calculation of the simplest physical model, as I understand it.
            1. Motorist
              Motorist 15 June 2020 23: 10 New
              0
              DVR, well, I put a smiley face! There was humor! drinks
              1. DVR
                DVR 15 June 2020 23: 21 New
                +3
                DVR, well, I put a smiley face! There was humor!

                I beg your pardon, Motorist, there are so many emoticons of all kinds and different, try to figure it out laughing I'm new to the site, do not judge strictly :) Sincerely.
                1. Motorist
                  Motorist 15 June 2020 23: 27 New
                  0
                  No problemhi: he himself is here recently [registered] - sometimes I misunderstand what this or that commentator means.
                  1. DVR
                    DVR 15 June 2020 23: 42 New
                    +1
                    sometimes I misunderstand

                    It happens like a beginner, I understand. In fact, I decided to talk here only because of quarantine, I was a little attracted. In any case, I’m not here for long, I’m chasing the trolls a bit. I want to get to the ordinary a couple of weeks - here at the moment this is the most honorary title.
                    Intersect hi
                    1. Motorist
                      Motorist 16 June 2020 00: 08 New
                      0
                      Quote: DVR
                      chasing the trolls a bit

                      Nice of you to do it - I especially liked Masha! good
                      1. DVR
                        DVR 16 June 2020 01: 19 New
                        +1
                        Nice of you to do it - I especially liked Masha!

                        Where to me to mastodons :) There are such venerable, veterans, only a little of them against the general background. You do much better, sincerely)
              2. DVR
                DVR 15 June 2020 23: 24 New
                +1
                Yes, I completely forgot drinks
      2. prodi
        prodi 15 June 2020 17: 53 New
        0
        apparently, it’s even worse there, and the focus of the beam on the target can only be disappearing fractions of a second
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 15 June 2020 10: 21 New
    0
    Fantasy country ... something will become a reality almost tomorrow, and something later !!!
    This is a normal, systematic development of science and technology.
    1. AUL
      AUL 15 June 2020 10: 50 New
      +9
      This would be development - but for peaceful purposes ... What humanity spends frantic material and intellectual resources on! request
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 June 2020 10: 53 New
        +2
        Quote: AUL
        This would be development - but for peaceful purposes ... What humanity spends frantic material and intellectual resources on! request

        JOIN! Maybe on MARS the Apple Trees have already grown!
        1. savage1976
          savage1976 15 June 2020 13: 39 New
          +2
          Why did they come up with a spear? To kill the target at a distance from you and not to starve to death. what was the bow made for? To kill the target beyond the spear throw distance and not to starve to death. Bullet? The same reason and effect. Rocket? To hit a target without people with bullets and machine guns. They came up with a nuclear bomb, created a nuclear reactor. So maybe back to the centuries of gathering berries and living in caves?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 15 June 2020 13: 44 New
            -1
            Quote: savage1976
            So maybe back to the centuries of gathering berries and living in caves?

            If only the life then began ... complex and at the same time simple!
            And there would be many, many, fewer people on the planet, this is a mandatory process, you can’t change anything here.
            1. savage1976
              savage1976 15 June 2020 13: 46 New
              0
              What is less, I completely agree, only the percentage of people without brains will remain the same, that is, the majority. am
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 15 June 2020 14: 04 New
                0
                A moot point ... it is as if survival is needed, instincts, reflexes, the type that nerds do not belong there! Full regression.
                Only the history of mankind, in contrast to all sorts of fantasies, has shown that a thinker must also have !!! A harmonious combination of various qualities, over a long period, gives more chances to survive not to complete fools, but to completely different ones!
                1. savage1976
                  savage1976 15 June 2020 14: 15 New
                  0
                  I agree, everything is good in moderation. So the development of military technology increases the development of civilian technology, and without it we would have lived in caves. No matter how bad it may be, but it is the person’s desire to pick up someone else’s or defend his own that drives progress.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 15 June 2020 14: 27 New
                    +2
                    Quote: savage1976
                    No matter how bad it may be, but it is the person’s desire to pick up someone else’s or defend his own that drives progress.

                    Unfortunately, this makes the prospect of the continued existence of humanity foggy and foggy. If people always kept their sanity, kept a reasonable compromise between life and the ability to end it quickly and effectively, it would be much calmer.
                    And so we have ... but we do not know what we really have.
          2. AUL
            AUL 15 June 2020 14: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: savage1976
            Why did they come up with a spear? To kill the target at a distance from you and not to starve to death. what was the bow made for? To kill the target beyond the spear throw distance and not to starve to death.

            That would have improved the HUNTING rifles and all kinds of traps, so as not to die of hunger. They don’t ride a duck on a tank. And the more tanks and missiles they build, the less money is left for food. Yes, and the army must be fed, but the soldiers do not plow the land and do not go hunting! No, a person needs to be taken away from a neighbor so as not to work hard. Although in the end it turns out exactly the opposite!
            1. savage1976
              savage1976 15 June 2020 14: 31 New
              +2
              So the boar is not going to take away the land, traditions, faith, resources from you. Protection from man is created, and weapons are created to be taken from another person, and not from a boar.
            2. bk0010
              bk0010 15 June 2020 17: 54 New
              0
              Quote: AUL
              They don’t ride a duck on a tank.
              They go to the duck: there were precedents in the GSVG.
              Quote: AUL
              And the more tanks and missiles they build, the less money is left for food.
              And if they weren’t enough, then there will be food, but not with you.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 17 June 2020 07: 21 New
                0
                Right Our officers on the bat of hares, from Kalash, at night with a searchlight. Only ears from the bunny remained. Have fun. KSIBVO.
  7. Gust
    Gust 15 June 2020 10: 30 New
    +1
    Formally existing (not only ours) aeroballistic missiles in some areas are also hypersonic, and some also maneuver. You need to be able to fight them now, not tomorrow.
  8. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 15 June 2020 10: 32 New
    +1
    Wait a moment, before July 1, we will not receive such promises.
  9. Operator
    Operator 15 June 2020 10: 39 New
    -1
    Hypersonic cruise missiles of the Zircon type and gliding cruise blocks of the Avangard type, moving in the atmosphere in a plasma cloud, are intercepted by atmospheric anti-missiles with fragmentation warheads of the S-400 / S-500 type.

    The United States does not have such weapons now - all of their anti-missiles are equipped with transatmospheric kinetic interceptors.

    No laser can overcome the plasma cocoon that surrounds a hypersonic rocket when flying in the atmosphere, of course.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 15 June 2020 10: 41 New
    0
    And the meaning of all this to develop the parties? There was the USSR, of course, the confrontation between the two systems. The confrontation was over. The USSR ended without a nuclear bomb or super weapons. If tomorrow is war, definitely the planet’s corek ...
  11. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 June 2020 10: 57 New
    +1
    I would not be very ironic over his words .. Having looked at the launch of Zircon, I don’t know what they (science) will come up with tomorrow ...
  12. Roman Zykov
    Roman Zykov 15 June 2020 11: 07 New
    0
    Somehow I watched a program about plasma weapons, where it was just said that the fact of the creation of this weapon was caused by the low speed and duration of the delivery of the damaging factor to the enemy’s missile. And the plasma arrives at the speed of light and forms something like a high-temperature cloud on the path of the rocket, which acts like a concrete wall on the rocket because of the huge temperature difference, i.e. a rocket collapses from its kinetic energy
  13. Maks1995
    Maks1995 15 June 2020 11: 11 New
    -4
    Have you noticed? Already there are no cartoons.
    Crisis, and there is no money for cartoons, probably. All drank.
  14. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 15 June 2020 12: 00 New
    0
    Missiles? Hmmm ... Actually, missile defense systems regularly show their helplessness against ballistic missiles, which are moving more slowly and much larger, and practically do not maneuver. Stupidly there is not enough time for reaction and calculation of the trajectory. And against hypersound, that's enough. The men are shchoing Bareika himself drowning himself. Something and stuffing ...
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 15 June 2020 12: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail3
      In general, missile defense systems regularly show their helplessness against ballistic missiles, which move more slowly, much larger in size, and practically do not maneuver.

      There is information that the Israeli missile defense system has successfully tested a new hypersonic missile, which is supposedly an analogue of the Russian "Dagger". Moreover, according to some reports, the novelty has already entered service with the Israeli army.

      The Israeli Arrow 3 complex conducted a test in Alaska, the ROCKS aeroballistic missile was used as a target
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 15 June 2020 12: 32 New
        0
        Does this apply to my post? Idea in god dilo, ide in damn dad?
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 15 June 2020 13: 37 New
          +1
          You wrote it
          In general, missile defense systems regularly show their helplessness against ballistic missiles, which move more slowly, much larger in size, and practically do not maneuver. Stupidly there is not enough time for reaction and calculation of the trajectory. .
          As you lead, just enough.
          1. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 15 June 2020 18: 45 New
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            Yes, I do not see) And no one sees. Postanov it. The whole question is that you need to find a rocket, and then shoot down, and it is not known which side it flies from. And in all these tests to the public - it is known. When in the USA they try to fully test the next version of missile defense, they stumble over it every time - detection, calculation of the trajectory and the launch cycle of missile defense, each time too long!
            I understand the desire of poor Jews to make some money on the fact that the United States does not succeed in selling them its latest supercomplex) However, the question of honest trials ... However, the Israeli lobby is omnipotent in the United States. It may happen that unless Trump succeeds in insisting on real trials.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 15 June 2020 20: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail3
              The whole question is that you need to find a rocket, and then shoot down, and it is not known which side it flies from

              With your permission, I will omit all the "water" from your reasoning, and I will answer in essence.
              The question is whether it is necessary to detect a missile, and then to shoot down, and it is not known which side it flies from. The AN / TPY-2 long-range radar solves this radar. It has unique parameters. It provides over-the-horizon detection with a sensitivity that allows you to detect objects the size of a grapefruit at a distance of 2 miles, despite the fact that Tehran is only 900 miles to the northeast. The radar allows you to detect the Shahab-1000 missile launched towards Israel after a few seconds of the flight, Well, you already saw the shot down.
              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 16 June 2020 09: 16 New
                0
                Oh, wei! Over-the-horizon radars, which form the basis of US defense and see the fifth planetary diameter, do not solve, and the mobile radar does not solve the problems of poor Jews! Dropping water - pah ...
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 16 June 2020 09: 23 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  Oh, wei!

                  But on the merits of the topic, what are you missing?
                  OR
            2. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 15 June 2020 21: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Postanov it.

              It’s possible that you didn’t like it and it wasn’t reported from you, but it is a FACT.
      2. Gust
        Gust 15 June 2020 14: 42 New
        +2
        Well, what can I say ... I thought that only in the Russian Federation there are "no analogs" missiles, but it turns out Israel is ahead of the States of the Russian Federation and China by 10 years;)))
  15. Roman123567
    Roman123567 15 June 2020 12: 54 New
    -4
    Thanks to Comrade Stalin, we have nuclear weapons, and for many, many years no one will even think of attacking (without taking into account the fact that nobody needs us anyway) ..
    Well, the rest is Putin’s galoshes ..
  16. vvvaunavi
    vvvaunavi 15 June 2020 13: 50 New
    0
    "The most remarkable thing about this lie is that it is a lie from the first to the last word" (c)

    Man Vladimir has long been living in parallel reality.
  17. cniza
    cniza 15 June 2020 16: 30 New
    +1
    One of the directions for the development of anti-hypersonic weapons is combat laser systems.


    Most likely the laser, at what distance is the interception?
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 16 June 2020 12: 27 New
      +1
      Very good PR. While hypersonic missiles are being built, We already know how to shoot them down. Buy c400 an hour later, we will upgrade or sell a new one. Wars will be local and the presence of air defense is a way for small countries to protect themselves from the "Long Arm" and "democracy" of the United States. And without gaining air supremacy, no democracy will set foot on foreign territory because the losses will be such that the opposition will tear the power in the elections into rags. And there will be bang bang .. from afar, sanctions, provocations, inf. War.
  18. Tagan
    Tagan 16 June 2020 12: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Malyuta
    Quote: pmkemcity
    Until the cartoon is shown, we won’t believe it!

    I am very sorry hi but I’m already sick of this mug, even if she says nothing. hi

    Don’t apologize. Here everyone is used to your manners)))
    And what doesn’t you like at all if you don’t even publicly forbid cf @ t?