President comments on criticism of constitutional amendment

The president of Russia was asked about his reaction, which is expressed regarding the purpose of the adopted amendments to the Constitution. A considerable number of Russians believe that amendments will be made to the Constitution (and they have already voted for them in both houses of parliament) in order to remove restrictions on the length of time the head of state is in power. Vladimir Putin made his remarks on this issue in an interview for the Russia 1 TV channel (VGTRK).

According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange. Vladimir Putin said in an interview that the amendments did not provide the president with unlimited power, but rather limited it.

According to Putin, today the president has the opportunity to independently approve the head of the cabinet, appoint the heads of ministries, without a parliamentary vote.

Vladimir Putin:

With amendments, the situation will change dramatically. The final decision will be made by parliamentarians, and the president will not have the right to reject.

Regarding the so-called “nullification” of the presidency, Vladimir Putin said earlier that “the final decision will still remain with the people in the course of direct voting in the elections”. Recall that earlier, the State Duma deputy Valentina Tereshkova came up with the initiative to “nullify” the presidential term after changing the Constitution.

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

Comments

[marchcat]

Where the president got such information is not reported.

Either Levada or VTsIOM have tried.

[Shurik70]

Each amendment requires a separate decision.
If they go as a "single package" I personally will vote against.
No matter how useful the individual amendments are

[Vitaly.17]

Quote: Shurik70

No matter how useful the individual amendments are

If they forgot, the current Constitution was adopted by Yeltsin and his American advisers almost immediately after the execution of the Parliament from tanks, and the country was plunged into chaos for decades. Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

[Shurik70]

This is not a reason to change the flea

[Lexus]

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

Sovramshi once, got a taste.

This is not a reason to change the flea

It depends on where the soap is.

[krot]

Look who was preparing the constitutional amendments! And if you, rabid ones, do not trust these people, then I think your USA idol and you need to bring it down! And our Russia and we will vote. And the past constitution was introduced by Yeltsin with the full participation of the United States and European educated people for their benefit, and not ours. Where is the supremacy of their law over ours! It’s time for the liberals to pacify us!

[Lexus]

I think your USA idol and you need to bring down there! And our Russia and we will vote.

And here are the figurines! The initiator of amendments admire and listen to his delusions before broadcasting mantras.

Where is the supremacy of their law over ours!

For 20 years it didn’t interfere with you and the clique of other Ebno-Putinists, but now why did it break through?
No thoughts at all? Clear.

It’s time for the liberals to pacify us!

Start with the Main! In an article by Roman Skomorokhov there are already three videos with him.)))

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In nature, the mole.

[krot]

Lexus in kind, or what? Who is this weirdo? did he accept amendments to the constitution?))) Go with Navalny to work further! Practice your greens. Do you live on the site? So many comments in 2 years! This is only necessary for the site to devote its time to 8 hours a day! The poor fellow. Or paid work?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

A new, and not very sensible amendments.

[Lexus]

highly sensible amendments

Among which there is not one without a "double bottom".

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vitaly.17

and the country was plunged into chaos for decades.

Do not cast a shadow over the wattle fence. The country was plunged into chaos as a result of the looting and appropriation of public property from the EBN gang. As a result, the “new private owners” were enriched by the sale of assets, and the people were left with nothing. And the constitution at that time made it possible to do just that, declaring the people a formal bearer of power, to which nothing belongs in the country ...
To exchange the EBN Constitution for the amended constitution, where the people sitting on the neck decided to extend their rule forever, until there is nothing to take ...
Are you most interested in the amendments? And I’m interested from whose pocket they will finance the elimination of the ecological catastrophe in the Krasnoyarsk Territory ...

[aviator6768]

Supported! All the insinuations below are the fruit of the not-suffering sensations of the 90s ...

[Alexey from Perm]

this is not a new constitution, it is only amendments, it does not change the essence

[Vadim237]

With 400 amendments, it is essentially a new constitution.

[NordUral]

And these changes, which almost no one knows, are proposed to be adopted against the background of pastoral landscapes of the modern Russian Federation?

[KAV]

Quote: NordUral

And these are the changes that almost no one knows

What's the problem? All corrections are publicly available, at least on the public services website - go and study. Another thing is that many do not even want to read them, for example, like you. It’s easier to yell that you are being deceived. Yes, there are those who cannot do this, but they are a minority.
By the way, I’ll say that I am against voting for all amendments at once. This is a sell, no matter what the heads from the screens say. Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!

[NordUral]

Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!

The presence of these amendments is to serve as a smoke screen.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: NordUral

Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!

The presence of these amendments is to serve as a smoke screen.

Right And the wind blows because the trees are swinging

[Tatyana Sementsova]

But can it be more specific what is a smoke screen and why? Can you justify?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

Can you justify?

You asked the wrong person)))

I do not consider these amendments to be a "smoke screen".

[NordUral]

Trees are swinging, Golovan wakes up.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: NordUral

Trees are swinging, Golovan wakes up

Golovan never sleeps. He is napping. This work)))

 OFF: About admins and programmers;))

https://forum.auto.ru/mark/mazda/247903/

Admins do not go home. Because if they go home, something will fall. And you have to go to work. And they don’t like going to work. And they don’t go. They live there

I'm not an admin, I'm just a programmer. And I live, in the light of recent experiences, at home.

But there’s no time to sleep

And as for the amendments - IMHO with them is better than without them. And I don't care about "zeroing" - there are no eternal ones, we will all die. But a couple of sensible things will remain.

Somehow

[NordUral]

Blessed is he who believes. Okay, wait and see. Good luck in the writings of the righteous!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: NordUral

Good luck in the writings of the righteous

Pasib

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: KAV

Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!

Verbiage, not amendment.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Verbiage, not amendment

Volodya, I can send you the terms of reference, which I am working on now. You are guaranteed not to understand nicherta in it and also, probably, will declare it "verbiage".

Nevertheless, this is a very specific task that will be solved and put to work. Don't you see any analogies yet?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Terms of Reference

So, and the people elected will probably understand.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mordvin 3

and the people elected will probably understand

Yes, I didn’t give a damn about these "chosen ones" from the bell tower. This is the problem with us that the "chosen ones" are ... just anyone.

More broadly, the problem is in the general literacy of the population. Starting from communication with banks-loans, ending with the election of "elected".

But - this is not quickly treated, unfortunately. So to send TK, or well nafig it?

[Mordvin 3]

Exactly that

Quote: Golovan Jack

Well, what for

I have enough of my tasks, but I’m not loading them with anyone. And as for the deputies, there such shots sat and sit, which sometimes was not clear, it was broadcast from the Duma on the radio, or from KVN. A type of law on bees where a swarm that has flown away must be returned to the owner.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Well, what for

Ok, beat.

[Alex Justice]

Verbiage, not amendment.

Some amendments are sensible, but about priests, family, etc. Verbiage. The more letters, the more solid and foggy. The American constitution, everything is simple and clear, no verbiage. Can copy American?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alex Justice

Can copy American?

Yeah, but at the same time the laws of their states. The type who got out of prison relies on a revolver and a horse so that he gets away to hell.

[Roman123567]

Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!

There is no purpose from the word at all ..
Protect our natural resources .. Protect animals ..
Well, take it and protect it !! Or did the old constitution prohibit doing this ??
The one who yesterday took away pensions from people yells that in order to rectify the situation it is necessary to change the constitution .. Theater for suckers ..))

[DVR]

And these are changes that almost no one knows

Well, what are you so rude? Can't you read? This question follows from your comment.
Personally for you:
Since writing is nonsense, you can read it.
https://конституция2020.рф/amendments

[Tatyana Sementsova]

And why are those who say real things so minus?

[Andobor]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

And why are those who say real things so minus?

Information war - racers for Western money are fighting "Russian propaganda".

[Snarkxnumx]

"requires from principle to adopt a new Constitution"
I would change the constitution, why would they be nullified?
All problems in the country, the government is not accountable to citizens. Therefore, we have no chance for development.

[Vadim237]

"There is no chance of development" - What exactly.

[Offspring]

Have you read the amendments? apart from claims that the water should be wet, the sun is bright, and white snow there has not changed much. For example, an article on the role of the central bank has not changed; it, as before, remained a commercial structure not accountable to the state. Officials can still have dual citizenship, property abroad. Only one party can steer as before, and the election results will be zealously guarded by structures controlled by the ruling circles. Courts to be appointed by them and off we go. In the state, the usurpation of power is in the face and the new edition does not solve anything.

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Quote: Shurik70

No matter how useful the individual amendments are

...
Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

Your words remind me of the saying - "In spite of the enemies I will sell a goat so that the children do not drink milk"

How can I vote for both good and bad amendments together in one heap ??? !!!

[Private89]

I agree with you, with one amendment, adopt the 1936 constitution.

[smart ass]

You get involved with hard drugs.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

What is changing dramatically there?

[Deck]

If the amendments were really supported by the "absolute majority" - why would it be necessary to hang giant posters with agitation on the streets?
Why would there be speeches by call masters calling for support for the amendments?
Why would it be necessary to simplify all procedures to the utmost, not to pay attention to passport details, and to allow voting at home without any good reason?
Why would a weekly early vote be needed?
Why would it be necessary to forcibly drive "state employees" to this vote, hysterically demanding mandatory attendance and participation in early voting (which allows replacing ballots)?
They would have waited for the day of voting - and went to draw up protocols confirming the massive support for the amendments.

And so are children's excuses unworthy of the leader of a great country. In short, muhlezh-zeroing.

[Dmitry Donskoy]

I am not a fan of GDP and disagree with it in many respects, but I think that the way we are going is the right one. And now let the liberals blame me, but I will vote for the new constitution.

[tatra]

On the other hand, your comment looks very much like the training manuals of paid Putin propagandists, in which everyone who is against the amendments is "liberals and agents of the State Department."

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: tatra

But your comment is very much like training manuals of paid Putin propagandists

But your comments cannot be confused with anything. In 90% of cases, they start with "enemies of the communists who ..."

[tatra]

Ha, the eternal response of the enemies of the communists on the principle of "self", "defense by attack".

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: tatra

Ha eternal answer enemies of the communists

Well, here I am about the same

[Herman 4223]

Rather, it’s just boobies, but maybe some small part and agents of the State Department.

[Andobor]

Quote: Herman 4223

a small part and agents of the State Department

from a neighboring country - there is no other job in Ukraine, so they are here and are fighting "Russian propaganda"
for State Department money, and the State Department steadily allocates money for this, - by law.

[loki565]

What kind of double standards you have, you don’t like what people who call amendments against

"liberals and agents of the State Department".

Well, then you yourself call the person

paid Putin propagandists

for the fact that his opinion is different from yours)))

[tatra]

Unfortunately, that's the case. On the Web, FOR what Putin is doing is nothing but his paid propagandists with the same training manuals. The main ones are "do you remember what happened in the 90s", "who is against Putin are liberals, agents of the State Department, enemies of Russia, hohlotrolls."

[DVR]

The main ones are "do you remember what happened in the 90s", "who is against Putin are liberals, agents of the State Department, enemies of Russia, hohlotrolls."

I am a simple engineer, but I say similar :)

[DVR]

If there is an opportunity to earn extra money on what I do for that, let me know.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

but I believe that the path we are following is correct

Right? Can you tell me your year of birth and occupation?
Such an interesting way is the way of plundering the country and the population, in order to establish laws and dictate the right with already stolen capital.
If you ask what this path is, you can even answer. BUT!!! Stretch yourself, tell us how, as a result of the financial pyramids, the country's population is able to enrich and make their dreams come true ...
In the country there was such a situation that people began to take loans to pay off old ones, but you like it ... Are you, by chance, not a bank employee?

[mvg]

You, by chance, are not a bank employee

But are bank people not people? Do not take loans? Not all banks have 300K salaries

[DVR]

You are right, the lowest link in a regional bank is in the region of 25-50K. Head of department (depending on direction) - 40-80K.

[Dmitry Donskoy]

64 year old military pensioner

[bunta]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

64 year old military pensioner

Clearly, pension reform does not concern you.

[Motorist]

And what - to deprive of the right to vote ?!
One acquaintance (a young guy, at the same time "drowned" for Navalny) told me that it is necessary to deprive Russian citizens living abroad of the right to vote. In response, I suggested that migrant workers from Central Asia be allowed to participate in the elections. You know, he agreed! I didn't even have anything else to parry ...

[Aag]

For a long time, I wrote the answer in detail to you, it didn’t crawl. Tomorrow I'll try to repeat it.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: ROSS 42

In the country there was such a situation that people began to take loans to pay off old

This is called refinancing. with a competent approach - quite a working tool.

The problem is that no one really taught the current "adults" to calculate the consequences of their actions ... about risk analysis and other lofty matters - there is even no need to talk about it.

The result - they got loans, bought junk, now they are sitting with their mouths full ... loans. Well, themselves Pinocchio, no?

They said since childhood: free cheese - in a mousetrap. Whoever decided to check - that’s how it sits ... I personally have a debt, if there is one, it is paid off due to the salary for a maximum of a month ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Golovan Jack

The problem is that no one really taught the current "adults" to calculate the consequences of their actions ... about risk analysis and other lofty matters - there is even no need to talk about it.

They (unlike the party and koms. Assets) were not told in advance about what they intend to turn their country on their behalf.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Golovan Jack

The problem is that no one really taught the current "adults" to calculate the consequences of their actions ... about risk analysis and other lofty matters - there is even no need to talk about it.

They (unlike the party and koms. Assets) were not told in advance about what they intend to turn their country on their behalf.

You know ... I'm already an adult boy, and grew up with the Union. But for twenty + years, not understanding what a bank loan is is, sorry, a clinic.

I got it

PS: minus is not mine, corrected.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Golovan Jack

You know ... I'm already an adult boy, and grew up with the Union. But for twenty + years, not understanding what a bank loan is is, sorry, a clinic.

I got it

Congratulations!
And if you bother to linger over the Bible or the Qur'an and manage to understand what the loan interest is and why it’s bad to treat it, I’ll also congratulate you on this

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

if you bother to browse the Bible or the Qur'an and are able to understand what the loan interest is

Yes you are impudent, my friend ... to tell you about the Arab banking?

There, too, not without a percentage, only it is framed a little differently ... the physics of the phenomenon from this does not change

[Sergey39]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

did not speak in advance

As they said. They just didn’t want to listen or thought that it would resolve itself.

[mvg]

I personally have a debt, if any, is paid off due to the salary for a maximum of a month ...

You know, it’s complicated for young people to buy an apartment without a mortgage. With any RFP. It is better to pay a loan for your home than a comparable amount for rent. Not everyone has an apartment from their grandmother. Not everyone gets along with their parents. You just need to have insurance for an emergency or a job change. Or when another crisis comes to the country

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: mvg

It is better to pay a loan for your home than a comparable amount for rent. Not everyone has an apartment from their grandmother. Not everyone gets along with their parents. You just need to have insurance for an emergency or a job change. Or when another crisis comes to the country

Competently

[savage1976]

The audience of the site has slipped into a complete "slag" .. Anyhow, they just minus even when you explain simple truths to them.

[codetalker]

Patriots graze here, not liberoids.

[Paul Siebert]

The Soviet Union, basically, collapsed not for economic reasons and not because of the influence of Western intelligence services.
Our Soviet Motherland died due to lack of truths.
At the meetings of labor collectives they said one thing - in the shops another.
From the stands of the congresses the third was broadcast - in the kitchens they whispered about the fourth.
The fifth was extolled from the screens and posters, and at the flea markets they chased after the sixth ...
When the moment came to rally around the leaders and defend their way of life, their country - people spat and went home ...
Nobody believed the elite, like the shepherd boy who kept shouting: "Wolves, wolves!"
Overtaken common sense, drowned in pathos sensible things ...
What does today's power do?
Walking the beaten path ...
It is impossible to engage in fraud behind the backs of the people, and drown the banal fear of losing power in the hysterical pathos of "the struggle for amendments."
The people have grown wise over the past three decades. And I haven't seen enough of such "cunning" ones ...
You can't lie. The people will not forgive.
Hatred of lies - you will not reset...

[tatra]

Any power is lying to the people, and we, in the territory of the former USSR, have been living for more than 30 years in a state of TOTAL lies of the enemies of the USSR that have captured the USSR, starting with their anti-Soviet Perestroika. . And in the post-Soviet period, supporters of the USSR proved that they were for the truth about the history of their country, and enemies of the USSR proved that they were for slandering the history of their country.,.

[smart ass]

All the time, someone is to blame, but the West is better to blame! Suppose ... well, what did you sit on the couch when your USSR collapsed? Why didn’t they go under the tanks at the government house? Or was it handy to watch on a warm sofa?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Dmitry Donskoy

I am not a fan of GDP and disagree with it in many respects, but I think that the way we are going is the right one. And now let the liberals blame me, but I will vote for the new constitution.

Zaminusut you are not liberals. And they’ll do it right. Earned.

[NordUral]

And so are children's excuses unworthy of the leader of a great country. In short, muhlezh-zeroing.

No leader, no great country! Everything requires updating and recovery. But there is no decisive vote from the people, if we are still the people

[pleschakovai]

For 20 years, the authorities have learned how to lie, cheat, deceive and fool the population of Russia, call them ordinary Russians and villagers, instead of the WORKING CLASS and PEASANTY! That's right, because the working class is the grave digger of capitalism! What is not very profitable for the new Gus capitalists! And now a dumb electorate! They brought up a consumer society that is not viable and not capable, which is what they achieved !!!

[DVR]

How do you propose a grave? Tell me in detail your plan, interestingly.

[Vadim237]

The working class and the peasantry are already battered and obsolete expressions. Russia for 30 years in a market economy with concomitant capitalism, and you seem to be stuck in the USSR, and how there the media lied about everything in the country, it does not make any comparison with the current time.

[Tatyana Sementsova]

Please indicate the name of a worthy leader in your opinion. And what a worthy thing he has already done ..... (If not difficult) thanks.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

Please indicate the name of a worthy leader in your opinion.

Leonid Ivashov. CEC swept the election.

[Tatyana Sementsova]

I googled ..... A gray horse, unknown to anyone really ..... What are these experiments on the people of Russia? And secondly, there are rules for submitting a candidacy .... He stamped around, stamped around, then woke up ..... So apparently he wanted .... But now we can say that the CEC rolled .....

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

I googled ..

Clearly with you.

[Tatyana Sementsova]

And with you ....... All the best ....

[bunta]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

Please indicate the name of a worthy leader in your opinion.

Judging by the registration date, Madame, work out your pieces of silver with pre-prepared stamps. So, the price is worthless to such a leader who does not have a worthy replacement for himself. Well, how is a brick on the head or a coronovirus in the lung? Under Catherine the Great there was a whole battalion of managers from Potemkin to the brothers Orlov and Suvorov. Even under Nikolai the Bloody was Stolypin! Now who? Rotenbergs and Rogozins? The absence of strong personalities not only in the opposition, but even in the immediate environment, speaks of the weakness of the government and its inefficiency. The country is unmanageable, due to the lack of adequate leaders who can take responsibility. There is no feedback as a necessary element of any system control. We live under ourselves without feeling the country ... (c)

[Tatyana Sementsova]

Well this is blah, blah, blah, I heard, and where is the last name? And at the expense of Serebrennikov, would be ashamed .......

[bunta]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

, and where is the last name?

Ask Putin if you do not understand anything.

[Roman123567]

And what worthy he has already done.

And what worthy has Putin already done by 1998, when he was appointed president ?? Was able to wear a suitcase ??

[Tatyana Sementsova]

I don’t even want to discuss with you ...... Your general would have scratched less, would have participated in the elections .......

[Tatyana Sementsova]

If we hadn’t found him in due time, today we would have nothing to be proud of ...... We would live like everyone who believed the West .......

[Alex Justice]

Russia needs a real competitive party. This is the only way development will be.

[Tatyana Sementsova]

Here !!!! Verity Truth GOODS !!!!!!
But the problem is that there are no particular competitors. Everything that is offered as an alternative to Putin’s course is not very supported by the people ...... Just there are already examples of these courses --- Ukraine ....... at least ..... Few people want to ride to the tune of the United States ......

[Civil]

Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.
Most of those who unsubscribe to VO here will not live up to 2036 ... your choice was in 1991, when they kept quiet modestly)

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Civil

Most of those who unsubscribe here in VO will not survive until 2036.

I see, you are a nice person, have you measured two centuries? Wait and see...

[Civil]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Civil

Most of those who unsubscribe here in VO will not survive until 2036.

I see, you are a nice person, have you measured two centuries? Wait and see...

I see how we are, men are dying in packs and I don’t drink illusions.

[Interlocutor]

I see how we are, men are dying in packs and I don’t drink illusions.

But I do not see. I see that they live humanly.

[NordUral]

Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.

To dream is not harmful.

[Civil]

Quote: NordUral

Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.

To dream is not harmful.

This fact has already happened, for the discontented there is the Russian Guard, and for the especially slow-witted tank armies, they will push without hesitation believe it.

[NordUral]

Do not expect such people as you are not so many, and the rest are not as reliable for you as you would like. People are getting smarter.

[Wolverine]

Quote: Civil

Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.
Most of those who unsubscribe to VO here will not live up to 2036 ... your choice was in 1991, when they kept quiet modestly)

All the chaos in the world began because "THEY" no longer control anything, the forces of evil are beating in the last convulsions, their actions are impulsive, like the coronavirus, laws adopted by the package, insolent intimidation of peoples, orange revolutions, etc. Resetting is happening to us all the peoples of the world, there is a reassessment of values ​​and this is stronger than anything that happens above by the forces of evil because God himself took our bright side and nothing will come of them.

[Vadim237]

Putin will retire in 2024 and maybe even earlier and not immediately after the adoption of the new constitution, just as unexpectedly as the Medvedev government was dismissed.

[Svarog]

Quote: Shurik70

No matter how useful the individual amendments are

There they made traffic rules from the Constitution .. There is not a single item that needs precisely those amendments that have been made. Everything worked like that .. but there is a point about resetting to zero .. and that’s why it’s all started. I am terribly annoyed that citizens are held for donkeys .. especially when I hear very intrusive advertisements where they say that without amendments to the Constitution, animals are in danger ..

[KAV]

Quote: Svarog

There is not a single item that needs precisely those amendments that have been made.

Oh really??? Well, then, everything is clear with you. You are attracted and enraged by only one point! The rest are completely uninteresting to you. But to me, for example, as a citizen of Russia, other things are interesting in the amendments, which will bring much more benefit to the country and our people! And I consider them very necessary and long-awaited! And here you are agonizing only by one amendment ...

[Roman123567]

And to me, for example, as a citizen of Russia, other things are interesting in the amendments

In vain you rejoice .. as they offended animals before amendments, they will also offend after ..

which will bring much more benefit to the country and our people!

you don’t confuse your wool with folk ..

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Quote: Shurik70

No matter how useful the individual amendments are

This is called the evil of all frostbite ears. For me it’s so stupid.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Shurik70

Each amendment requires a separate decision.

It should be clear to everyone that a problem has arisen between the people and the authorities on the issue of amending the Constitution. And it must be solved.
Will the government be able to find the courage to make two options (pros, cons) for each amendment to the ballot? That would be honest with its citizens.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Will the government be able to find the courage to make two options (pros, cons) for each amendment to the ballot? That would be honest with its citizens.

Late. The train left. They could be honest, but did not want to.

[Sergey39]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Will the government be able to find the courage to make two options (pros, cons) for each amendment to the ballot? That would be honest with its citizens.

With such a massive information attack on Russian society from all sides, it would be more correct to cancel this vote altogether. The amendments are still practically accepted.

[Locksmith]

Quote: Shurik70

Each amendment requires a separate decision.
If they go as a "single package" I personally will vote against.
No matter how useful the individual amendments are

I’ll vote = FOR, I’ll explain, there’s more benefit than harm, this under-cosmonaut is walking harm to herself, so don’t be able to compete ....

[smart ass]

I will also vote against until 1 million money is returned to me + 5 years of life after the pension reform.

[Ros 56]

And we are so worried that you vote against, even food does not go to mind. Maybe enlighten the near-minded, that does not suit you.

[zenion]

So you are opposed to Putin breaking Stalin’s record in power. There is of course a difference, the power of the people and the power of the plutocracy, but stuffed wallets to the bulb.

[snake]

Where the president got such information is not reported.

Quote: marchcat

Either Levada or VTsIOM have tried.

Angels sang in ears ...

[Grandfather]

According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange.

oh how!

[bayard]

What kind of "angel" do you have?

[snake]

Quote: bayard

What kind of "angel" do you have?

Nope. One Astrakhan craftsman.

[unaha]

Yes, no, the CEC has already reported the voting results)))

[tatra]

Favorite Putin's voting results in all elections in Russia with him 60-70%.

[Vicontas]

Levada and VTsIOM have already tried to establish a rating of the "galley slave" at a modest 15 - 17%! But since the Central Election Commission is not an independent organization, you can be calm and confident that any necessary result will be drawn for you! Let's remember the famous - "It is important how they voted - it is important how they counted!"

[Lexa-149]

It was he who was told by the very people who were begging Tereshkov.

[bunta]

Is he still in the bunker?

[Marconi41]

Quote: bunta

Is he still in the bunker?

Divorced the same "bunker witnesses". Do you know for sure about this, or is it just a pick-up of the thoughts of the "Maidan witnesses"?

[A good one]

Quote: Marconi41

Quote: bunta

Is he still in the bunker?

Divorced the same "bunker witnesses". Do you know for sure about this, or is it just a pick-up of the thoughts of the "Maidan witnesses"?

No, she's a witness.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Marconi41

Divorced the same "bunker witnesses".

And where else can you conduct online briefings with the same interior as two months ago?

[Marconi41]

Quote: Ingvar 72

And where else can you conduct online briefings with the same interior as two months ago?

And the president certainly does not have an office in Novoogoryovo! If anything, he even received the heads of state there. Probably also lowered into the bunker?
If you are writing about something, then definitely know what it is about. Do not spread delusional rumors.

[Andobor]

Information war - horses run.

[bunta]

Quote: Marconi41

Divorced the same "bunker witnesses"

The center of government has always been the Kremlin.
A country residence is a place of temporary residence, residence, and not government. The same bunker.

[Vadim237]

Yes, they don’t know anything - if only what kind of garbage to blurt out.

[BARKAS]

No agent "Trump" in the bunker

[codetalker]

Are you still in the "tank"?)

[New Year day]

There is no way out - supporting amendments to Putin is extremely important, because otherwise, as a decent person and officer, he must leave. And where to leave when such a lafa is president for life. Therefore, everything is dear to him, everything is for his immortality, although there are no immortals. And then? - And then.....

[The leader of the Redskins]

If decent officer...
And if the like a slave in the galleys?

[ximkim]

Cloning and that's it.

[depressant]

There are no immortals. So I always say - "imperishable". In the conditions of modern computer capabilities, it is no longer certain that the president is talking to us.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Silvestr

as a decent man and officer he should

Sylvester, a decent officer must do something else ...

[parusnik]

Dumas somehow bet the bet. According to the conditions, he had to shoot himself. Dumas went to his office. A shot rang out. Everyone froze. After some time, Dumas appears and says: gentlemen, I have missed ..

[Grandfather]

Quote: parusnik

Dumas somehow bet the bet. According to the conditions, he had to shoot himself. Dumas went to his office. A shot rang out. Everyone froze. After some time, Dumas appears and says: gentlemen, I have missed ..

class! Old Dumas was good!

[New Year day]

Quote: Dead Day

a decent officer must do something else ...

Perfectly! Here the option is simpler

[Lexus]

Quote: Dead Day
a decent officer must do something else ...

Perfectly!

Where will it aim?

Here the option is simpler

0: 0?

[Locksmith]

the joke is funny and therefore dangerous, because he himself dispersed normal parties and normal applicants, because there is no one to choose from (for the first time !!), therefore complaints are not accepted = they were chosen. But only Onet was able to build the oligarchs back = so that they would benefit us, and not Omeriga, they respect us at the outer line, and thanks to him. HZ, I think I need to start with myself, it’s not the oligarchs who do not give us work, but the same entrepreneurs who do not undertake but simply whine.
Mlyn, even a bear noticed, == that this is a pancake for entrepreneurs who do not undertake anything ...
My factory fulfills the order for disarmament, the machine tools were 87 years old, then there were no normal processors, 40 boards were sitting on the bus, memory on small dips were 18 output, the machines were old, it’s good that friction pairs are slipping, not roller balls, right now, they suffer. But what characteristic, neither repair nor change == new menachers are not at all ready

[flicker]

There is no way out - support for amendments to Putin is extremely important, because otherwise, as a decent person and officer, he must leave

We need corrections much more than Putin.
If the amendments are not supported by the people through voting, then the constitution will remain the same.
And the amendments will be adopted by the parliament, with all the "nishtyaks" that follow from this.
But this is not familiar to you.

[New Year day]

Quote: flicker

If the amendments are not supported by the people through voting, then the constitution will remain the same.

I want to upset you - the Chairwoman said that they have already been adopted and are working, and voting is Putin’s desire to hear the opinion of the people and nothing more

Quote: flicker

But this is not familiar to you

[Lexus]

and voting is Putin’s desire to hear the opinion of the people and nothing more

Who will tell him the truth - next to him are only friends, sycophants and "watchdogs". Flatterers will bungle any "funny pictures" for budget money.

[flicker]

I want to upset you

Come on.
I want to please you.

4. Article 1 of this Law shall enter into force on the day of the official publication of the results of the all-Russian vote (taking into account the features established by part 7 of this article) if the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by it have been approved during the all-Russian vote.
5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation who participated in the all-Russian vote vote for them.

But if the amendments fail (and they include a ban on foreign citizenship, real estate and accounts abroad), the Constitution will remain the same, and the necessary amendments will be adopted by deputies and the Federation Council without the opinion of the people, though the ban on foreign nishtyaks will not be included in the amendments.
And yes, zeroing the deadlines will be accepted.
Well, who will be to blame for you?

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

I won’t take it into my head, but that everyone was so excited about the so-called zeroing? In my opinion, Putin is far from the worst president for the Russian Federation. And I do not believe that in the 24th year he will go for the next term. But his successor or not successor should have a chance to be president as much as the people allow him. At least two, at least three terms.
And so that they do not sing, but the rating of trust in Putin among the people is still oh how high. Of the current politicians, none is a real competitor.

[New Year day]

Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich

current politicians, none is a real competitor.

Do they have existing politicians? These are talking heads with no opinion. Corona virus showed that they are all power spoilers

[Aleksey Aleksandrovich]

Let's say they are power spoilers. But where then aren't spoilers? Is it not Yavlinsky forgive the Lord, or Kasyanov, or someone else?
Can anyone name a real alternative to Putin as president or an alternative to EDRU as the leading faction in the State Duma?

[Lexus]

And then.....

At least a flood. Some are already clumsily testing the ground for canonization. With all the consequences.

[Lexus]

Alexey

Ohhh ... unheard of progress. A compliment from me!

I read your ribbon ... somehow it is not visible from it - an officer.

Are you trying to sniff out something again in vain? Fume? Don't ... don't hope. You are looking in the wrong place: the analyzes do not give rest, then you study your opponents below the belt, then you poke around in the "dirty laundry", then spoil the confidential atmosphere of the discussion, etc. Then you are surprised that your company is shunned. "And the casket just opened" (C) - to understand the officer, you need to be.

As, by the way, and from "Stroporez" - a paratrooper.

Why is everything carrying you to the wrong place and not from there? For example, it is unpleasant for me when "bones are rinsed" behind the eyes. Your "okolotochny" friend often sins with this. It's weak in the eyes. Comes out of the ban, then show him. It will be interesting to see these attempts.

You are not relatives, an hour?

"All people are brothers!" (C) Have you heard? Although, what am I talking about ... Good night!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lexus

to understand the officer, you need to be him

And I was. And not only me - I just asked a question that is not interesting to me alone.

Quote: lexus

Are you trying to sniff out something again in vain? Fume? Don't ... don't hope. You are looking in the wrong place: either the analyzes do not give rest, then you study your opponents below the belt, then you poke around in the "dirty laundry" ...

A lot of foam, buddy. And too sloppy language. They didn’t teach me this.

The question remained, by the way: what kind of bursa, what kind of "second Chechnya". While - I hear a bird, no more.

[ohka_new]

So that they do not do things
Evidently the Constitution failed them again ..

[AUL]

Reminds how a naughty schoolboy turns around in front of his parents!

[Karaul73]

This is all untrue! You are lying! If briefly.
In general, do not bother working on the galleys.

[depressant]

To wave the oars, it would be necessary to plug the holes in the galley to start.

[Qas]

You must first change the rowers. Everyone knows their surnames

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Qas

You must first change the rowers.

Rowers are us. They look after and rule.

[flicker]

To wave the oars, it would be necessary to plug the holes in the galley to start.

What if you find yourself a "hole". Through the amendments, you are offered not only to plug up the holes, but to transfer from the galley to the ship - and you yell that you don't want to change anywhere, and continue to drill holes in the galley and at the same time moan that we might drown.

[New Year day]

Quote: depressant

To wave the oars, it would be necessary to plug the holes in the galley to start.

So the perpetum mobile turns out, the more holes, the more fun the oars to work, and the more fun, the more holes. And money is flowing out of holes

[Lexus]

So the perpetum mobile turns out, the more holes, the more fun the oars to work, and the more fun, the more holes. And money is flowing out of holes

It's a "family" affair! So, you see, very soon all the people's goods will be "canceled". And then they will say that it all "ascended", for which later everyone will certainly be rewarded, but this is inaccurate.

[flicker]

In general, do not bother working on the galleys.

And what quality are you at these galleys?

[parusnik]

Vladimir Putin said earlier that "the final decision will still remain with the people in the course of direct voting in the elections."

.... In the final decision of the people in a direct vote, there is no doubt ... Watch the series Smeshariki "Truffle"

[Grandfather]

Quote: parusnik

Smeshariki "Truffle"

[A good one]

Quote: filim

Quote: Silvestr

and officer

Did he serve in the army?
Did not know.

Yes, where did they get the knowledge, forelocks themselves with a mustache.

[rocket757]

That puzzled people ....
THE SYSTEM is like that cat Vaska, anyway he’ll eat sour cream, she’s kind of a care what kind of cook there will be. Any ststemny, nothing and never prevents her.

[signifera]

I read all the amendments to the constitution, I wasn’t too lazy, because all butter is oil, nothing has changed much, in other words, the general sense, somewhere added points, somewhere reduced, somewhere replaced and rephrased, such as limited deputies and ministers do not have dual citizenship and accounts abroad, but to rewrite to a wife or other person that interferes. I so governed the abstracts and reports downloaded from the Internet, when I was studying, you change words or sentences and the type is no longer plagiarized, like I wrote it myself, like it will not be calculated, and you have never caught it. So here, but they launched some kind of propaganda, as if according to the old version of the constitution it is impossible to live and the country is about to fall apart. But about zeroing, it immediately catches your eye, you can immediately see why it all started.

"It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the absolute majority of Russians support the constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported."
Also, they will not tell us later how the votes were counted in their favor

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Signifer

Where the president got such information is not reported. "

Exactly from where he learns that the middle class in Russia are those whose income is above 17 rubles a month, and for a carefree stay, a salary of 000 rubles a month is enough.

[Grandfather]

Quote: ROSS 42

and for a carefree stay, a salary of 12 rubles a month is enough.

and, accordingly, the same pension.og ...

[Yarhann]

Well, at least someone read the amendments and that’s good. And then, as usual, I did not read, but I condemn)))

[flicker]

nothing has changed much, in other words the general meaning, somewhere added points, somewhere diminished, somewhere words replaced and rephrased

Interestingly, what did you expect?
Well, like: execute, execute with particular cruelty ...?
---
"Paraphrasing" is not enough for you, but for lawyers it can be a lot.

[Doccor18]

The final decision will be made by parliamentarians ...

75% of which represent one party in power, support and entirely depend on it ..

that "the final decision will still remain with the people in the course of direct voting in the elections."

This is yes.

According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange.

Criticism is not about making amendments, but about the amendments themselves, their interpretation and the breathtaking haste with which they want to accept them.

[flicker]

and the breathtaking haste with which they want to be accepted.

They had to be taken back in February. But they deliberately delayed (under various pretexts, they say people) until mid-April, and then the pandemic delayed it even more.
We are not in a hurry, we are late in their acceptance. Because of what they are limited in their capabilities (economic primarily).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: flicker

we are late with their acceptance. Because of what they are limited in their capabilities (economic primarily).

What will the amendments give to the economy?

[knn54]

In Britain, Brexit was discussed for two years, and then a couple is three months.

[flicker]

In Britain, Brexit was discussed for two years, and then a couple is three months.

There, the parliament adopted a constitution. And people like you are not even asked there.

[kotvov]

And people like you do not even ask. ??
Well, yes, they ask people like you. Which are always ready, but just what?

[Andobor]

Quote: knn54

In Britain, Brexit was discussed for two years, and then a couple is three months.

In Britain, the misunderstanding at the exit from feudalism is stuck, and here - developed democracy.

[parusnik]

The final decision will be made by parliamentarians, and the president will not have the right to reject.

... The president will propose the prime minister, according to the amendments, but will he reject the edrosovskoy majority of the Duma? .. Further, the functions of the State Council are not understood .. By the way, they will be determined by a separate federal law ..

[ALARI]

1. Under the current constitution, all amendments have already been adopted.
2. If Suddenly they will NOT be accepted by the people during direct voting in elections, then see point No. 1.
What kind of person is he about Thomas, and he is about Yeryoma.

[flicker]

What kind of person is he about Thomas, and he is about Yeryoma.

Try to think.
For example: why did you need a popular vote for constitutional amendments adopted by parliament, the Federation Council and regional parliaments?

[New Year day]

Quote: flicker

why did you need a popular vote for constitutional amendments

Psychotherapy for GDP. The mandate of the people to the kingdom. Suddenly the descendants will write, made a coup d'etat, and so, far away, the people asked and agreed. And GDP from the coup becomes legitimate. I want to go down in history and not get involved

[flicker]

The mandate of the people to the kingdom.

I understand that this is a figurative expression, but nevertheless the image must really correspond - the people of the kings did not choose, this title is still hereditary.

Suddenly the descendants will write, made a coup d'etat, and so, far away, the people asked and agreed.

To nullify the deadlines, just a constitutional amendment supported by 2/3 of the deputies, 3/4 of the senators, approved by the regional parliaments and the president’s signature - all will be legal.
---
Well, why then for him is the opinion of the people?
---
In the amendments for a popular vote there is Article 71, paragraph "t" -

r) the federal public service; establishment of restrictions for filling state and municipal posts, positions of state and municipal service, including restrictions related to the presence of citizenship of a foreign state or residence permit or other document confirming the right to permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation in the territory of a foreign state, as well as restrictions related to the opening and availability of accounts (deposits), storage of cash and valuables in foreign banks located outside the territory of the Russian Federation.

I already wrote to you, but once again: if the people vote against the amendments, the constitution will remain the same and most of the same amendments will be adopted by the deputies (AND IT WILL BE LEGAL!), Although a number of amendments will be "nullified", including the above.
---
Well, what will you achieve?
Only strengthen the existing position! Do you want this (consolidate the existing situation)?
---
Bred you as little children.
In the language of the customers, this is called "stirring up dummies."
Following the example of miners in the late 80s and early 90s, who fought against the CPSU and, as a result, contributed to the collapse of the USSR.
Or those who in 2014 Maidan in Ukraine. The dummies in Ukraine were confident that they were making a great history of Ukraine. Now we see what this story is.
So it is here in VO.

[ShM05]

As I see here, many justify changes to the constitution they say it was written by the Americans, the CIA, etc., that is, it took Putin the former KGB officer 20 years to understand this? Then it’s clear that the KGB specialist was as useless as the president now. It is clear to any sane person that this is intended to be reset to zero. For 20 years, the constitution did not bother him to rule and sign all the necessary laws for him, and when the end of rule loomed on the horizon, it suddenly became American

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: ShM05

and when the end of rule loomed on the horizon ...

Tell me, if you do not change anything, will the pension and summer cottage suit this gentleman? Every time you hear that there is no substitute for him. Neither him nor his team. This director of the enterprise can tell the employee: “We have no irreplaceable!”, But here is a completely different story ...
A dozen or two more will be put under house arrest, and there will certainly not be a replacement ...

[ShM05]

When, due to health or age, he cannot fulfill the role of a doll, they will find a replacement for him just like they found Yeltsin (special. I write with a small letter), but for now the longer he steers it is beneficial to everyone except the people of Russia, so you need to change the system, preferably it happened from above (science fiction), and if I say a different way, then for this article for rocking the gallery.

[New Year day]

Quote: ShM05

When due to health or age he will not be able to perform

And haven’t you seen in the last 2-3 months that he can no longer, and his health is no longer okay, he still hasn’t left self-isolation. People are already walking with might and main, and he is still on observation. Why?

[Lexus]

People are already walking with might and main, and he is still on observation. Why?

Maybe Potanin is afraid? He threw the pen.

[flicker]

that is, it took Putin the former KGB officer 20 years to understand this?

It was clear to him even 20 years ago. But the scribblers here at VO do not understand this until now. It is in our interests to amend the constitution, and we are aching: we don’t want to zero, ... the impression is that many here just like to whine.

[tatra]

Well, yes, "the mice cried, injected, but ate the cactus." Putin understood everything, but for 20 years he ruled Russia according to the Constitution, written by the Americans.

[flicker]

Putin understood everything, but 20 years ruled Russia under the Constitution written by the Americans

I had to. And not to rule, but to save. It's hard for you to believe, but it is.
Shoigu recalled that Putin had just become president, they flew together from another emergency, Putin was silent for a long time, and then said: "there is still a CHANCE to save the country and this chance must be used."

[Tugarin]

Apparently, the advisers reported on the discontent of the masses.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

And why tell "who is leaking" such information to the president - and so everyone knows. Personally, I will vote against the amendments. As I already wrote: the amendments contain constitutional guarantees to the president, officials, deputies, and even animals, but not for war veterans. Our "constitution" does not appreciate those who, by order of the state, risking their lives, go into battle ... Even if the "absolute majority" accepts the amendments and zeroes Putin, we will wait for a new "guarantor" ...

[Finn]

And what's the point of changing the constitution? To register a husband and wife, not parent 1 and 2, so for this proclamation is responsible, for atheists to return an article in uk for sodomy, what does the Criminal Code and the basic law of the Russian Federation have to do with it? Raising the pension, so who prevents it from being raised without registration in the constitution, medicine will not change overnight after the adoption of the amendments. For me, this is the theater of the absurd. Offensive. Khrushchev remembered corn, Dmitry canceled the belts and the fact that his words were minted on granite. This GDP is likely to be noted in the history of the Russian Federation. Better corn and Khrushchev.

[UserGun]

Quote: Finn

Offensive.

Even more offensive, when practically nothing is said that for the sake of the only amendment - zeroing the zeroed out, this whole theater is started. It is worthless to ALL promises that have never been and never will be fulfilled and, accordingly, worthless to such a zero, the only ability of which is to lie.

[flicker]

Worthless to ALL promises that have never been and never will be fulfilled

What is really hard?

[parusnik]

Register husband and wife, not parent 1 and 2, so proclamation is responsible

... No, the Family Code of the Russian Federation. It’s enough to amend it .. and there are no contradictions, but it will not be with this Constitution ...

[arlekin]

"- Explain to us, Red Sun,
why are we so bad.
Why, no matter how much we work,
Still, we can’t get better.
And the Red Sun comes out to them,
He tells them human Volodin.
- Because we can’t get better,
What is our Constitution. "(C)

[flicker]

Explain to us, Red Sun,
why are we so bad.

I understand that this is the wife who asks you so often?
I wonder how you answer her?
However, I guess: you say that Putin is to blame for everything!

[O. Bender]

About the Russian subsoil it is necessary to make amendments, and we are putting in a salad!

[alone]

Amendments should be adopted on separate articles .. Here then it will be possible to know the opinion of the people.

[flicker]

Amendments should be adopted on separate articles ..

Yeah, and the whole constitution was adopted in 1993.
Moreover, not many countries adopted the constitution through a referendum (moreover, for the most part, Africans, or third world countries), as well as some sort of constituent assembly.
And you want for each amendment separately.

[alone]

Maybe there are 10 good amendments that need to be adopted, but 1 amendment just crosses out these 10. Now what do you propose to do? refuse 10 or one?

[flicker]

but 1 amendment just crosses out these 10

Well then, you need to vote for each article of the constitution, and there are 137 of them and each of them consists of several more parts. Are you sure you can handle it?
And yes, you do not like what amendment?

[bunta]

Quote: flicker

Well then, you need to vote for each article of the constitution, and there are 137

just don’t have to leave the question, it’s not about every article, but about amendments. But to vote separately for the bottom there is just no problem.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: bunta

just don’t have to leave the question

Ask a question to make it clear. This -

Quote: lonely

Maybe there are 10 good amendments that need to be adopted, but 1 amendment just crosses out these 10. Now what do you propose to do? refuse 10 or one?

- not a question, but a nimble trolling. Buddy

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: flicker

Are you sure you can handle it?

I’ll master it, no questions asked.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: lonely

then it will be possible to know the opinion of the people

Do you need it? The opinion of the "people", in principle, is already known - "bread and circuses". And preferably free

Is it worth undertaking expensive events for this? IMHO no

[faterdom]

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

How where, he watches TV! And there...

[alex007i]

It is unclear why people are being mixed up, so that if something happens - they say they themselves voted?
We have carried out pension reform without a referendum and let them do the same here.
Why this farce with a vote, I do not understand.

[Grandfather]

Quote: alex007i

It is unclear why people are being mixed up, so that if something happens - they say they themselves voted?
We have carried out pension reform without a referendum and let them do the same here.
Why this farce with a vote, I do not understand.

[Laksamana besar]

And who noted this?

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

He didn’t say so, he said: "I sure that...".

[Wertgan]

The purpose of the amendments is to begin the movement towards sovereignty. And it is right. We vote for!

[parusnik]

The purpose of the amendments is the beginning of the movement towards sovereignty

... Does it still live without sovereignty? ..

[Lexus]

... Does it still live without sovereignty? ..

27 years. Of these, 20, in fact, at the present.

[Grandfather]

Quote: WertGan

The purpose of the amendments is to begin the movement towards sovereignty. And it is right. We vote for!

[flicker]

The purpose of the amendments is the beginning of the movement towards sovereignty.

All true.
And the minuses say that Russophobes of all stripes will resist.
They already cried how will they now complain about the power of the Russian foreign master?

[tatra]

That is, Russia has not had sovereignty under Putin for 20 years, and Putin obeyed someone in the world?

[flicker]

Russia has not had sovereignty under Putin for 20 years, and Putin obeyed someone in the world?

Article 15 Part 4 "The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied. "
That is, we were forced to comply with the decisions of international legal institutions (courts and other European parliaments, the UN, etc. having international status), for example, to join the sanctions against Iran, even when it hit our economic interests (could not sell weapons, finish building Nuclear power plants and so on). Gazprom is forced to pay Ukraine by decision of the Stockholm court.
The same Central Bank could not print money for the Russian economy in excess of the currency that was gained from the sale of oil and gas.
Because of what, the key rate of the Central Bank was from 10 to 20%.
Our enterprises were forced to lend to foreign banks. For what they needed to get a credit rating, the latter is assigned through audit companies (also western). Western audit, western credit rating, western banks - as a result, another dependence on the West.
---
We can get rid of this and other infections through the amendment to article 15.
So yes, the country was obliged to obey international norms and principles: including optimizing health care, raising the retirement age, juvenile justice, imposing same-sex marriages, etc.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: flicker

international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied. "

Do you have any brains?

[flicker]

Do you have any brains?

It seems to you time to tie a booze.

[Revival]

Are you laughing chtoli?
Do you understand the meaning of the word international treaty?
What prevents him from concluding? We have no obligation to conclude any contract! Do not like it do not sign! If he himself signed, then why are you going to not execute? Changed his mind, terminate the contract on the procedure, what is the problem?
Where will Gazprom go from foreign arbitration if even with the amendment even without a contract they conclude it only subject to consent to this arbitration!
But it is not enough to insist on concluding a contract (extension) of the contract without the condition of in-country arbitration of the forces, so the amendment has nothing to do with it.
2. UN decisions are taken by the Security Council, in which we have the right of veto, that is, the very obligatory decision that is so unprofitable for us may not be "born", but we did not block sanctions against Iran, and this is not about the amendment. This requires a will that does not depend on the amendment.
Do not confuse warm with soft ...

[flicker]

Are you laughing chtoli?
Do you understand the meaning of the word international treaty?

It is necessary to read completely, and not just some part. And not with the Mordvin, but a little higher with me, there is a quote from the Constitution, article 15.
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... "And" international treaties.
And before the "I" it says: "The generally recognized principles and norms of international law And ..."
And all together: "The generally recognized principles and norms of international law And the international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.

If an international treaty of the Russian Federation establishes rules other than those provided by law, then the rules of the international treaty are applied. "
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So it is not so much about the cabality of international treaties (which, I agree, you can not conclude), but about obligations to comply with international norms and principles.
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Juvenile justice is registered in international norms - that means, according to the Constitution, we are obliged to introduce this, etc. etc.
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Before comparing soft to warm, take the time to read carefully.

[Revival]

International norms and principles are what we ourselves adopted when creating the UN, human rights, etc. Designed and adopted with our participation.
No new mandatory will appear, I remind you of our right to veto the UN, we do not like blocking ...
Or did the right to life suddenly bother us?
Juvenile justice in the 1950s could not be spelled out. If we do not use the veto right now when trying to enter it, then who is to blame for us that she will appear there? We’re vetoing and will not appear, we can’t get around here if we don’t want to

[flicker]

International norms and principles are what we ourselves adopted when creating the UN, human rights, etc. Designed and adopted with our participation.

Yes, accepted, but ...
There is really a trick there.
For example, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) Article 3 "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person."
It would seem a wonderful article, protects a person, his rights. All for!
And then this article begins to be filled with certain content, for example: the human right to same-sex marriage, the right to change sex, and so on. Further more, not just the right to change sex and the right to same-sex marriage, but the total propaganda of such relations in schools begins. The ban on propaganda is assessed as a violation of rights, etc., etc.
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Those. at the beginning they take an attractive sign, and then fill it with disgusting content.
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Our problem (and not only ours) is that we are not allowed to influence the content of this "attractive sign".
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It happened with article 15, part 4, of the Constitution of Russia. We signed up for it, but it turned out to be harmful to us.
Therefore, an amendment is needed that gives us the right to abandon harmful international norms and principles.
This amendment is made.

[Revival]

The document may change (fill out), etc., only by equivalent force, additional agreement, addition, etc.
Consequently, the human rights adopted by the UN Security Council cannot be changed (filling), without the corresponding adoption by the UN Security Council. And there we have a veto.
How is a sign filled with unsuitable content?

"All for!
And then this article begins to be filled with certain content, for example: the right of a person to same-sex marriage, the right to change sex, and so on. Further more, not just the right to change sex and the right to same-sex marriage.
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Those. in the beginning they accept an attractive sign, and then fill it with disgusting content. "

In what form is the filling in, in the form of which document? Just verbally chtoli?
They cannot change to fill out the document adopted by the UN Security Council, without our consent, since we have the right to veto!

[flicker]

How is a sign filled with unsuitable content?

I read you and realized that everything is very badly launched

In what form is the filling in, in the form of which document? Just verbally chtoli?

The problem is not in the "form of filling", but in the content.
And to understand this is not as easy as you think.
For example, explain what is "freedom"?
And convince the other that it is.
Gay is freedom or not?
And what is justice?

[Revival]

"I read you and realized that everything is very badly neglected."

After this your sentence, I thought that you began to understand something, but after reading your comment I further realized that alas, absolutely alas ..

[flicker]

Human rights adopted by the UN Security Council cannot be changed (filled) without the corresponding adoption by the UN Security Council. And there we have a veto.

Before stupid to write at least wondered: how the UN General Assembly differs from the UN Security Council.
Then they would not write about "human rights adopted by the UN Security Council", because it deals with issues of peace and security.
And here is the gene. The UN Assembly deals with moral and political issues, including human rights. The resolution is adopted by 50% or more of the votes of all UN members, and we do not have a veto right there, unlike the UN Security Council.
So they will accept the right to be gay, which means we will be obliged to comply, if we do not accept the amendments.

[Revival]

Happy for you! I understood your fears, can you imagine, if the UN General Assembly had accepted mandatory compulsory geyser, then you would have to start observing right away, and there is a chance to slip through thanks to the amendments.

[flicker]

understood your fears

You are well done
You can only understand your fears but you can ascribe your fears to anyone, but at the same time they will not cease to be yours.
This is so that you know for the future.
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if the UN General Assembly would accept about compulsory gayness, then you would have to immediately begin to comply

Not to me, but to the state.
As a result, a conflict would begin to develop between the traditional values ​​of the population and the government, which accepted these Western values.
And we have enough conflicts.

[Стена]

The president is generous.
Pamfilova at a meeting of the CEC said that the amendments to the Constitution have already been adopted, and to vote on them is the good will of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“This law has already been adopted, amendments have been adopted, this process itself is legitimate,” Pamfilova emphasized. - And it is only possible to treat with great respect the fact that the president did not stop there, and his political will and desire is to hear in this case the opinion of the people not provided for in the current Constitution.
Key phrase! He went for it, it is worthy of great respect. "

[lopuhan2006]

"We do everything for you and for your sake, just what we get for ourselves ...." If I offer you pineapple, ice cream, julienne, cocktail and much more delicious, oo seasoned with shit ... then at the exit everyone will eat shit ... mo.

[Viktor Sergeev]

I have one question for Tereshkova: Aunt Valya, have you read your amendment?
A weak spread of the vote: for all other amendments and for the very one because of which everyone started?

[flicker]

A weak spread of the vote: for all other amendments and for the very one because of which everyone started?

The problem is that many amendments are related.
Your family will not buy a car in parts.
You will buy the body of the frets priors, your wife will buy wheels from Kamaz, and your son will buy a wheel from a scooter ... well, your daughter will also contribute to the family car.

In general, this is a manual for torpedoing the adoption of amendments to the Constitution, such as: "zeroing", separately for each amendment, etc.

[impostor]

Amendment law passed. This is a fait accompli. On March 16 this year, it was published on the official publisher of the WG signed by the President. Break the spears further. https://rg.ru/2020/03/16/popravka-v-konstituciyu-dok.html

[Azis]

Quote: impostor

Amendment law passed. This is a fait accompli. On March 16 this year, it was published on the official publisher of the WG signed by the President. Break the spears further. https://rg.ru/2020/03/16/popravka-v-konstituciyu-dok.html

Read the law to the end

4. Article 1 of this Law shall enter into force on the day of the official publication of the results of the all-Russian vote (taking into account the features established by part 7 of this article) in the event if the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation stipulated by it have been approved in the course of the all-Russian vote.
5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved, if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation vote for themwho participated in the all-Russian vote.

[impostor]

You are mistaken a little. You are trying to oppose the rule with a process that a priori has a dominant role. But this is not your fault, the legal conflict was constructed by the best minds from the law

[Azis]

Quote: impostor

You are mistaken a little.

I'm not mistaken. He just gave the so-called "letter of the law". De jure changes acceptedbut for now not approved. In fact - everyone already knows everything.

Quote: impostor

has a dominant role.

I understand who has, whom it has and who plays the leading role.

[impostor]

The law has been passed procedurally, no need to invent anything, the head of the CEC confirmed this fact.

[flicker]

5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation who participated in the all-Russian vote vote for them.

And if more than half of the citizens vote against, the Constitution will remain unchanged.
And then the fun begins.
Almost all amendments can be adopted without a popular vote: 2/3 of the deputies, 3/4 of the Federation Council, approval of regional parliaments and the signature of the president.

Almost all amendments, but not all - amendments against "nishtyaks" will be removed.
All "nishtyaks" will be retained by officials and deputies.
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Ask: what about the people?
And the people will decide their fate by voting
True, one of the scribblers (anti-nullifiers) will earn their ... on a fret viburnum.

[bunta]

Quote: impostor

Amendment law passed.

In this case, you just need to go and vote against.

[flicker]

In this case, you just need to go and vote against.

So, what is next?

[zontov79]

He thinks that the writings in our eyes are all God's dew? It turns out that we vote for the limitations of the power of a permanent leader. Yes, no matter what, if he turned to the people in front, and back to the forest.

[parusnik]

It turns out that we vote for the limitations of the power of a permanent leader.

... It turns out so ... I am unchangeable, but limited in action

[7,62x54]

Dear Leader has already deceived more than once. The credit of trust has been exhausted.

[flicker]

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

Indeed, where does the president get such information?
The president, by his post, should not know anything, he is not sitting here in (as the vast majority of enlightened Russians do this ), and therefore cannot be aware of how the population relates to the amendments.
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And the population is here ... on who , who

[Avior]

. Where the president got such information is not reported.

From where from
Signed voting protocols saw where else

[Angrybeard]

Why is he wagging? I want to rule forever, I would say so. Only there is one but. His personnel policy. All these Mustaches, Rogozins, and other unsinkable Mutko. With such people it is difficult to hope for a breakthrough of the country from poverty and the status of a raw materials appendage.

[Aleks2000]

Vote, do not vote, anyway, the Constitution has already been declared de facto adopted.
The tops want to consolidate their hundreds of percent profit ...

[Karaul73]

Quote: flicker

In general, do not bother working on the galleys.

And what quality are you at these galleys?

I’m just for you, a bad guy, a shame. You have such spreading ears under Putin’s noodles grown, which is just awful.

[Zaurbek]

A single package of amendments looks crooked and makes me vote against.

[Lord of the Sith]

In short, if you want, then come on as you want, and if you want, then come on.

I'm going to vote. Because.
And whoever does not want or against, let them remember 1993, when they did not ask anyone.

[adler87]

So this, in fact, everything is already accepted without us. I don’t see a big difference with either 93 or the late USSR.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Putin said everything correctly, but my opinion is that in Russia it is generally necessary to abolish the time limit for the president, only in the elections the people decide once every 5 years whether the old president remains or chooses a new one.

Presidents temporary workers will all behave in such a way with the oligarchs so as not to make enemies, that is, they will not protect the interests of the people !!!

The president was limited in time in the USA in 1947, after the death of Roosevelt, who was in power for 4 terms and it was the most popular president of the USA !!!

In Germany, the Chancellor has no time limit and nothing, no one usurped power and created 4 Reich.

In Ukraine, presidents are changed every 5 years for a new one and there is no sense, everyone has hopes and everyone will be cursed in a couple of years.

[adler87]

Well, in principle, you are in favor of changing the constitution of each new president, as he needs, but! with the filing of Tereshkova, required.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Well, in principle, you are in favor of changing the constitution of each new president, as he needs, but! with the filing of Tereshkova, required.

The president does not change the constitution; only people can vote on it !!!

And the time limit for the president of Russia needs to be canceled once and for all !!!

[adler87]

The constitution has already been amended. And the opinion of the people, for a long time, the president, on matters of vital concern to him (the president), does not bother. Pension robbery is an example to you.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The constitution has already been amended. And the opinion of the people, for a long time, the president, on matters of vital concern to him (the president), does not bother. Pension robbery is an example to you.

It is very cool to "be clever" when you are not responsible for anything and your mistakes will not lead to serious consequences for the whole country, you can take revenge with your tongue like a broomstick.

Nobody has changed the constitution and will change it only if the majority votes for it.

As for the pension reform, this is not a whim of Putin or the government, but the new conditions in which Russia lives:
- an increase in life expectancy in Russia and an increase in the number of pensioners (42 million people);
- a decrease in the number of workers and making deductions to the PF of the Russian Federation (they gave birth in the 90s)
- decrease in budget revenues from the sale of resources.

What would you do at the place of power, provided that the number of pensioners grows and the income of the pension fund decreases? Raised taxes on workers? Would you gobble up the reserves? And then what did you think about paying pensions to the next generation?

In my opinion, let retirement be a little later, but those people who really can’t work because of old age will receive much more.

It may be news for you, but in the mid-30s, under Stalin, when they introduced a pension and the retirement age was the same 55 years for women and 60 years for men, the average life expectancy in the USSR was 40 years - for women and 35 years for men !!! This is before the war, without taking into account the statistics of losses in the war.

Putin could easily lower the country's reserves to pay pensions and not raise his age and leave handsome. He was already under 70, another 10 years of the country's reserves would have been enough, and then all the problems would have fallen on the new president. But Putin is not a populist, but a leader of the country and thinks not of himself and not of today, he perfectly understood what kind of negativity would pour on him and all the same made this decision, because in the future it will help to avoid more serious problems.

All countries of the world have long raised their retirement age, in Poland until recently, it was 67 for both men and women, in China only civil servants pay their pensions, and many old people just shave, in other countries of the world, regardless of the level of development, retirement age also raised LONG !!!

And you can do it like Ukraine, do not raise the retirement age, but require a minimum of 25 years of experience, and soon in Ukraine you will need 35 years of experience to retire !!! But how to get them if half the country is working illegally in the EU ?! That is, these people who do not gain experience in receiving at best a social pension, and a few years later. Here's how to deceive your people.

In Russia, the minimum length of service for retirement is 10 years, which not everyone manages to gain by the age of 60.

The pension system is not the only person’s income in old age, it’s just insurance from the state, so that the person does not remain without everything at all !!!

Do you want to retire earlier, get more, work, earn, invest accumulated in stocks, real estate, precious metals, some kind of business, now there are such opportunities.

The average pension today is 14 rubles. To receive such income it is enough to buy one one-room apartment in the regional center and rent it. Or accumulate 500 million rubles in a stock account in bonds and bonds and get the same dividend income. Leasing one taxi brings about 2,5 rubles or more !!! This is so for a throw off.

Everything can be achieved now in Russia, but for many, like you, it is much easier to whine, moreover, on the network, inciting others. However, you do not even realize the essence of the problem !!!

[adler87]

Well, I see how you were rationalizing here, you need to close up such a treatise. So you sit there on the sofa for days, as I look.
Putin has already signed the law on amending the constitution. Hey! Wake up! Of course, we still have to vote. Moreover, the CEC chairperson herself mentioned how to give legitimacy to all this "circus". Yes, and there you can show your passport for 2 meters, and temporarily remove the mask. We are only now learning that the voting commercials were filmed prior to the amendment proposals. Great, isn't it?
You wrote here about the inevitability of the pension reform, so confidently. Well, what can I say. Back in school, my math teacher used to say, in the case of your "notes" like that: show me a heap of paper with calculations that this is impossible! There is no heap of paper, or have they reported to you from the government and presented the calculations? And how disgusting was it all presented? In May 18, Peskov said that Pu was not aware of the pension reform project, it was the prerogative of the government. Here's how, but Pu then our president seems to be, and he hung up noodles about pensions all the time, all 20 years: while I am president, I will not raise my age. And before the elections he said nothing. Well, isn't it mean, eh?
About 30 years, etc., there were few pensioners then. I think it will be news to you that labor productivity in Russia has been rising since then, and the increase in the number of pensioners is offset by an increase in labor productivity. And, I would understand if Pu came out and said that people, so we did the following: we raised taxes for the rich, revised the salaries of top managers, defeated corruption and much more, but there is not enough to feed pensioners anyway. Well, then I would somehow understand and see that yes, all the people are carrying a burden. But for some reason our deputy in 13 year received 160 thousand rubles, and now 250 thousand rubles. It is that, in your opinion, the country lives so hard that at the expense of pensioners, we raise the salaries of deputies. And they have nothing for that. This is stupid "voices". Nothing depends on them, just look at how quickly everyone accepted the amendments.
That's why nefig raise the retirement age. Moreover, they raised the age NOT TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PENSION. Calm down, no one on her 12 tr. not going to raise.
You are here about Poland, but Ukraine. More about Russia for 13 years, here bend and about pensioners of Uganda and Upper Volta for the full picture. And I’m talking about America and Germany: in America, Reagan told the people that the age of retirement will be raised ... from 2000. And he said this in what year? Do you know? In 1980, if memory serves. In Germany they raise the age, yes. But how! Each year, 1 month is added. But in America and Germany, a bunch of other compensations, benefits, etc. You won’t die of hunger there. In America, you can retire earlier, in Germany you are paid a pension earlier if you can’t work for health. And we have? And yes, why didn't the military raise the retirement age? Well, it’s understandable why, Pu is afraid of the military, power support is very important for him. And I, having worked at a construction site for 30 years, should now be 65 years old, excellent.
And you know that they can’t get the minimum length of service because of our government and deputies, it was they who organized our economy so that a lot of people worked unofficially, especially in the 90s. And just do not need it here, but, since unofficially, then you don’t even pay. If there is nothing for people, then you will go anywhere to work. And yes. Here's a bunch of people working in the 90s and 00s unofficially, their pensions are harsh, well, our state cannot even pay them, as promised at 55 and at 60.
Pension is for many the only income in old age. And keep all your fictions with you.

You write: "If you want to retire earlier, get more money, work, earn money, invest in stocks, real estate, precious metals, some kind of business, now there are such opportunities." Here, tell me more specifically about the topic, I want to retire early, etc. What are the promotions? And how many? Well, with a salary of our middle class of 17 tr? The property? Look at prices, what kind of property, where? Precious metals? Yes? How can you make money on them? What a business !!! Ha, which one? What are these opportunities? What are you talking about? We all turn out to be fools, and you are so iksperd, educate. Save up 2.5 million ?! Well okay! With a middle class salary of 17 tr.
Renting a taxi, well, of course. We have a car in Pollyama, well, I will invest them, and what? Well, I’ll get how you write 30 tr. And after 3-4 years, no car, no money, what’s next to lease.
There is no need to throw it offhand. And then you have problems only with our government, and we are all parasites and loafers here, such horizons are painted here, the clerk is wonderful.
And, yes, and about the errors that there like can lead somewhere. At work, I’m connecting the wrong wire to the wrong place, but I can easily fly out of work. We have a bunch of people upstairs that need to be planted through every first one, and they all spin around the bush. This optimization of medicine. Who flaunted for it. Pension reform, in my memory, is kind of like the third, who was responsible for the failure of previous reforms? And sports, dope? Mutko again at the post. I want it too, let me go there. If I already have boxers, hockey players and tereshkovs, and whoever is not there. They do not know anything about life. This, with Rosprirodnadzor, real estate of almost 800 Lyam! Where from ?! And there is such a sea! And you say that retirement must be increased, there is no other way out. There is!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, and the passport can be shown there for 2 meters, and the mask can be temporarily removed.

I don’t need to write nonsense about a passport that is shown for 2 meters and other nonsense. No need to bring everything to the point of absurdity, the voting process is not more dangerous than an ordinary trip to the store, and there are much more people in the store.

Amendments will be made only after they are voted for.

If the pension reform in Russia began in the 80s, then it could have been done more smoothly, but we started it one of the last in the world.

Putin said that he would not raise his pension in 2005, in his second term, and naturally he could not imagine and talk about what would happen in 15 years. Although I repeat, if he didn’t give a damn, he wouldn’t do anything, the country’s reserves were worth $ 565 billion, he could easily do nothing, but then his predecessor would face the same problem, only reserves would be less and measures needed It would take a lot tougher.

Since 2005, the number of pensioners has increased by 4 million. This is almost the population of Finland !!! 14 per month * 000 * 12 million = 4 billion rubles additionally needs to be spent from the pension fund, despite the fact that the pension is not growing, there are simply more pensioners. And the dynamics of this continues to increase.

Pension does not depend on labor productivity, but on insurance premiums for workers !!!

Everywhere, the military is paid a pension after a 20-year experience, all over the world, and this is not due to the fact that someone is afraid of someone, but due to many factors. In Russia, as well as around the world, there are a lot of professions where an early pension, from miners to ballerinas and circus workers. As a rule, early retirement is where high physical activity and harmful working conditions are.

Today it’s not the 90s, but 20 million people out of 70 million of the able-bodied population are not listed anywhere at all, and the other part is working in gray, receiving 50-60 or more thousand per month, and according to the documents a salary of 1 minimum wage is carried out.

And the unemployed are not loafers, there are no taxi drivers, builders, repairmen and other people who work, but do not pay taxes. In Ryazan, a taxi driver receives up to 100 thousand rubles a month, but he is not going to pay 4 thousand a month so that everything is legal, because he doesn’t want to, but he still achs that the roads in the city are bad, there are no doctors in hospitals and teachers don’t want to to teach his children normal, because they don’t want to work for 16-20 thousand. And such as this taxi driver - EVERY FOUR !!! This is not speculation, but statistics - check it, type it in a search engine.

You can sit and whine like you - "but how?", "What if it doesn't work out?" And you can work and earn money, while it will be formalized.

People buy stocks, and rent cars and apartments, but there are some nuances, not everything is simple, but everything is possible. And if you don’t do anything, then nothing will work out for sure.

[adler87]

Enough nonsense. Everything is possible and everything is possible, and do not raise the retirement age and pay pensions. The quantity of product produced by one laborer depends on labor productivity, and the more productive the labor, the higher it is paid, if you do not know this, then do not argue on this topic.
I’m talking specifically about Russia and the retirement of the military in Russia. There is no need to immediately drag the whole world, when it is profitable. It is necessary to send the military to retire later, for 5 years. This is normal.
And if the whole world was dragged here, then let's raise taxes for the rich.
And if we compare, then we must compare with Norway, with Saudi Arabia, and with other countries that live, including oil. we are the poorest country among them all. where did the excess profit go from oil, and from other natural resources? Sambo judokas, obviously.
And this is what Putin said then, but now everything is different, and the pension reform did not begin when it was necessary. What are you? What are you talking about? This is the third pension reform in 25 years!
I’ll ask you more about stocks and earnings for everything that’s not burning, in more detail, otherwise you just have everything.
I have lived in Ryazan for a year, these are such miracle taxi drivers there 100 tr per month receive? Come to yourself. Where are you living, in which room. 100 TR per month, yeah.
Although in Ryazan I did not get bad.
How is everything possible with us. With a salary of TR 17, this is our middle class, Pu himself said what is possible in Ryazan? Take a trip to Solotcha, that’s what’s possible.

[Alexy]

Than such "amendments", so let nothing change better. I am totally against zeroing. So everyone will reset to zero and change the constitution. So it also has immunity after the end of the term. So you can create whatever you want.

[adler87]

They asked about the zeroing, and he about the election of the prime minister, well done, great balabol major league.

[thrust]

but the amendments are specific. and the people are politically much more literate than in 93 em. against such changes, albeit going in a bunch, are only innate critics of everything that exists (it is difficult to disagree with them). rob them of their daily bread. after another failure, how nice it is to throw on the valve, they say, "eternal" is to blame for sitting and sitting, under a constitution that recognizes the supremacy of international laws, already kissing the feet of stupid blacks, before sovereigns. Putin will not last forever, but the amendments will remain. the letter of the law (especially now it has become clear that this is "the letter of the law", just words out of the blue) is categorically not important. the result in the future is important, which will not happen without changes (amendments)

[Comrade Michael]

I'm not coming. Let them play themselves. Alien power. Quite a stranger.

[ApJlekuHo]

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

It’s interesting, but where did this information come from?

A considerable number of Russians believe that amendments will be made to the Constitution (and they have already voted for them in both houses of parliament) in order to remove restrictions on the length of time the head of state is in power.

[Warrior MorePhoto]

They limit the role of the president, because the whole gang will sit in the State Council, they will do whatever they want for themselves, and you can choose a dummy president every 4 years, and if anything, dump all the bumps on him ...
I definitely go to vote AGAINST!

[Falcond]

Everyone understands everything perfectly

[flicker]

Have you read the amendments? except for claims that the water should be wet, the sun is bright, and the snow white there nothing much has changed

Hmm, you'd better not read them

[musorg]

I am considering the possibility of only a separate vote on each amendment! And the item on the accounts for the hillock, etc. then everything will remain as it was.

[Whirlwind]

There is one question in the bulletins - "Do you support changes in the Constitution?"
Sane, having looked at Vukraina, and now at the light of "democracy" Crazy States of America, will vote for the changes, and "who is the mother of war" will vote against ...

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Whirlwind

Sane, having looked at Vukraina, and now at the light of "democracy" Crazy States of America, will vote for the changes, and "who is the mother of war" will vote against ...

Once again, what amendments are there to avoid the fate of the United States or Ukraine? Do we have a better people? Or will the economy go uphill?

[Hort]

if we have decided to play "the people's trust" and build a legal society, then the vote should be each of the proposed changes, not stupid agree / disagree

[Fishery]

it would be funny if it weren’t so sad

[Azis]

How does Part 3 of Art. 67approx

The Russian Federation honors the memory of the defenders of the Fatherland, protects historical truth.

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preserving the memory of the ancestors who passed on the ideals to us

и drapery of the Mausoleum? Art. 1-9 of the Law “On the Amendment [not amendments, it turns out] to the Constitution of the Russian Federation”, in fact, with general, streamlined phrases, mask completely different goals for amending the Constitution of the country.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Vitaly.17

Quote: Shurik70

No matter how useful the individual amendments are

If they forgot, the current Constitution was adopted by Yeltsin and his American advisers almost immediately after the execution of the Parliament from tanks, and the country was plunged into chaos for decades. Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

Then I’ll remind you of something else, but with whom did you want to make the constitution?!!! The people are hungry, there is no constitution of the Russian Federation, there is only the USSR - then what - anarchy?!!!!!!!!!!!
ps they would vote for anything for a loaf of bread
and this is not a new constitution - amendments to some of its articles. Have you ever read the Constitution of the Russian Federation?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Azis

How does Part 3 of Art. 67approx

The Russian Federation honors the memory of the defenders of the Fatherland, protects historical truth.

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preserving the memory of the ancestors who passed on the ideals to us

и drapery of the Mausoleum? Art. 1-9 of the Law “On the Amendment [not amendments, it turns out] to the Constitution of the Russian Federation”, in fact, with general, streamlined phrases, mask completely different goals for amending the Constitution of the country.

Can you be more specific about what the drapery of the Mausoleum means?!
ps it’s better to quote part 3 of Art. 67approx

[Brigadier]

"According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange. Vladimir Putin said in an interview that the amendments did not provide the president with unlimited power, but rather limited it."

These are the times! Bees against honey?!
It turns out that Putin’s “zeroing” will seriously limit Putin.

And that means, by analogy, his personal approval of raising the retirement age will only be beneficial for older people, for whom there is practically no work after 45. After all, the hunger that they will receive while sitting without work will zealously stimulate their vitality and thirst for life! Amazing...

Natural Putin's "Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors"...

[vit670]

Quote: krot

Look who was preparing the constitutional amendments! And if you, rabid ones, do not trust these people, then I think your USA idol and you need to bring it down! And our Russia and we will vote. And the past constitution was introduced by Yeltsin with the full participation of the United States and European educated people for their benefit, and not ours. Where is the supremacy of their law over ours! It’s time for the liberals to pacify us!

The amendments were prepared dearly in the Presidential Administration! And they were discussed by all sorts of clichés, Solovyovs, Brilevs, Rodninas, Zheleznyaks... who have families, real estate abroad, and many have foreign citizenship!

[vit670]

Quote: Comrade Michael

I'm not coming. Let them play themselves. Alien power. Quite a stranger.

Right! You can't play with thimblemakers by their rules!

[vit670]

Quote: Zaurbek

A single package of amendments looks crooked and makes me vote against.

If you go to vote, then you agree with their rules of the thimble game! And it doesn't matter how you vote!

[vit670]

Quote: Angrybeard

Why is he wagging? I want to rule forever, I would say so. Only there is one but. His personnel policy. All these Mustaches, Rogozins, and other unsinkable Mutko. With such people it is difficult to hope for a breakthrough of the country from poverty and the status of a raw materials appendage.

I forgot Serdyukov, Miller... The main thing is that they are personally loyal and their professional qualities are not at all important....

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Pilat2009

Quote: Vitaly.17

Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

What is changing dramatically there?

If rent was established there for each resident through the sale of natural resources supposedly belonging to the people, then yes.

[Hort]

Regarding the so-called “reset” of presidential terms, Vladimir Putin had previously stated that “the final decision will still remain with the people during direct voting in the elections.”

regarding this, the President can make a “knight’s move” and publicly refuse to participate in the elections and exclude this amendment from the list of proposed ones.
And then calmly go to the State Council

[andrew42]

For some reason, the State Council smelled of the Supreme Privy Council, and... Birenovism, as a consequence. “Higher Leaders”... The Russian people need the personification of Power and Responsibility, it doesn’t matter whether it’s the President, the Secretary General, or the Tsar, or the Grand Duke. The State Council is like a body that does whatever it wants, but personally no one is to blame. "Multiple responsibility, you know!" (quote from Comrade Golubev from the film “Gentlemen Officers”).

[click80]

I honestly wanted to read all 300+ comments, but without reading even hundreds I thought, do you seriously believe that voting on the amendments will change anything and they really might not be adopted?
Yes, out of principle, I will vote against it, but I am 100% sure that the result will be positive and the amendments will be accepted.
Then the GDP will make an appeal like thank you people for showing high trust and blah blah blah

[Uran53]

According to the amendments, the President of the Russian Federation can personally appoint all security officials, and the parliament appoints only those on whom little depends. For example pocket prime

[andrew42]

I wonder if Mr. Putin will ever understand that you can’t do this to the people - throwing a “bag of amendments” at approvals, like a bag of bran to pigs. Despite the fact that the people's aspirations in these amendments are half a percent. The point is not what is stuffed there by those who “eat Russia,” but what is NOT included there. Socialist transformations are not expected. Well, okay, the Russian people will wipe themselves off. But if he still spits back, the nobility will drown, just like in 1918. Only “Paris” will no longer have “where to run.” Apparently they are hoping for Londongrad. Nicholas II also hoped, God rest his soul, that he was not accepted into the Bourgeoisie...

[Yury Siritsky]

Bring back the Soviet Constitution and everything will be fine.

[tolancop]

Today I listened to GDP on the radio.... statements about what useful amendments are being made. About the indexation of pensions, including. They say that since it is laid down in the Constitution, then no one can get away with indexation. And then it was like it was before: it seems that indexation is required by law, but these deputies took it and adopted a law on the budget, which does not provide for these indexations... But after the adoption of the amendments, this will not be the case, since indexation is prescribed in the Constitution...
What did GDP forget to mention? Yes, about mere trifles... At least about the fact that the last signature on the law before it comes into force is his, the Presidential one. If you think the law is wrong, don’t sign it. Has anyone heard about the President's refusal to sign the law? Me not! What was written in the Constitution even before the amendments? And a lot of things... That the laws adopted should not worsen the situation of citizens, which did not prevent the retirement age from being raised. What else? Yeah, about freedom of rallies, meetings, etc. Yes, yes, yes.... it’s no longer funny.... And also about the freedom of movement of citizens within their own country... Well, about “self-isolation”, IMHO, mountains of paper are already covered....
You listen to the “for” campaigning, look at the haste with which the amendments are being pushed through (I’m already silent about the procedures), you remember about the “set lunch” and your feet immediately carry you to the polling station. Vote.

[Sofa]

We have the right to vote, so everyone can vote as they see fit and I don’t see any point in arguing about it