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President comments on criticism of constitutional amendment

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The president of Russia was asked about his reaction, which is expressed regarding the purpose of the adopted amendments to the Constitution. A considerable number of Russians believe that amendments will be made to the Constitution (and they have already voted for them in both houses of parliament) in order to remove restrictions on the length of time the head of state is in power. Vladimir Putin made his remarks on this issue in an interview for the Russia 1 TV channel (VGTRK).


According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange. Vladimir Putin said in an interview that the amendments did not provide the president with unlimited power, but rather limited it.

According to Putin, today the president has the opportunity to independently approve the head of the cabinet, appoint the heads of ministries, without a parliamentary vote.

Vladimir Putin:

With amendments, the situation will change dramatically. The final decision will be made by parliamentarians, and the president will not have the right to reject.

Regarding the so-called “nullification” of the presidency, Vladimir Putin said earlier that “the final decision will still remain with the people in the course of direct voting in the elections”. Recall that earlier, the State Duma deputy Valentina Tereshkova came up with the initiative to “nullify” the presidential term after changing the Constitution.

It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 14 June 2020 15: 31 New
    11
    Where the president got such information is not reported.
    Either Levada or VTsIOM did their best.
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 14 June 2020 15: 58 New
      96
      Each amendment requires a separate decision.
      If they will go as a "single package" personally, I will vote against.
      No matter how useful the individual amendments are
      1. Vitaly.17
        Vitaly.17 14 June 2020 16: 15 New
        -39
        Quote: Shurik70
        No matter how useful the individual amendments are

        If they forgot, the current Constitution was adopted by Yeltsin and his American advisers almost immediately after the execution of the Parliament from tanks, and the country was plunged into chaos for decades. Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 14 June 2020 16: 21 New
          72
          This is not a reason to change the flea
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 14 June 2020 21: 35 New
            11
            It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

            Sovramshi once, got a taste.

            This is not a reason to change the flea

            It depends on where the soap is. wink
            1. krot
              krot 15 June 2020 05: 25 New
              -31
              Look who was preparing the constitutional amendments! And if you, rabid ones, do not trust these people, then I think your USA idol and you need to bring it down! And our Russia and we will vote. And the past constitution was introduced by Yeltsin with the full participation of the United States and European educated people for their benefit, and not ours. Where is the supremacy of their law over ours! It’s time for the liberals to pacify us!
              1. Lexus
                Lexus 15 June 2020 05: 47 New
                13
                I think your USA idol and you need to bring down there! And our Russia and we will vote.

                And here are the figurines! The initiator of amendments admire and listen to his delusions before broadcasting mantras.


                Where is the supremacy of their law over ours!

                For 20 years, it did not interfere with you and the clique of other ebony Putinists, but now why has it “broken through”?
                No thoughts at all? Clear.

                It’s time for the liberals to pacify us!

                Start with the Main! In an article by Roman Skomorokhov there are already three videos with him.)))

                In nature, the mole.
                1. krot
                  krot 15 June 2020 05: 49 New
                  -26
                  Lexus in kind, or what? laughing Who is this weirdo? did he accept amendments to the constitution?))) Go with Navalny to work further! Practice your greens. Do you live on the site? So many comments in 2 years! This is only necessary for the site to devote its time to 8 hours a day! The poor fellow. Or paid work?
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 14 June 2020 16: 25 New
          51
          Quote: Vitaly.17
          Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

          A new, and not very sensible amendments. wink
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 14 June 2020 21: 36 New
            13
            highly sensible amendments

            Among which there is not one without a "double bottom". hi
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 16: 45 New
          43
          Quote: Vitaly.17
          and the country was plunged into chaos for decades.

          Do not cast a shadow over the wattle fence. The country was plunged into chaos as a result of the looting and appropriation of public property from the EBN gang. As a result, the “new private owners” were enriched by the sale of assets, and the people were left with nothing. And the constitution at that time made it possible to do just that, declaring the people a formal bearer of power, to which nothing belongs in the country ...
          To exchange the EBN Constitution for the amended constitution, where the people sitting on the neck decided to extend their rule forever, until there is nothing to take ...
          Are you most interested in the amendments? And I’m interested from whose pocket they will finance the elimination of the ecological catastrophe in the Krasnoyarsk Territory ...
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          2. aviator6768
            aviator6768 14 June 2020 23: 34 New
            +1
            Supported! All the insinuations below are the fruit of the not-suffering sensations of the 90s ...
        4. Alexey from Perm
          Alexey from Perm 14 June 2020 17: 28 New
          19
          this is not a new constitution, it is only amendments, it does not change the essence
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 15 June 2020 01: 27 New
            -15
            With 400 amendments, it is essentially a new constitution.
        5. NordUral
          NordUral 14 June 2020 17: 34 New
          +3
          And these changes, which almost no one knows, are proposed to be adopted against the background of pastoral landscapes of the modern Russian Federation?
          1. KAV
            KAV 14 June 2020 18: 12 New
            18
            Quote: NordUral
            And these are the changes that almost no one knows

            What's the problem? All corrections are publicly available, at least on the public services website - go and study. Another thing is that many do not even want to read them, for example, like you. It’s easier to yell that you are being deceived. Yes, there are those who cannot do this, but they are a minority.
            By the way, I’ll say that I am against voting for all amendments at once. This is a sell, no matter what the heads from the screens say. Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 14 June 2020 18: 19 New
              16
              Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!
              The presence of these amendments is to serve as a smoke screen.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 18: 21 New
                -33
                Quote: NordUral
                Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!
                The presence of these amendments is to serve as a smoke screen.

                Right And the wind blows because the trees are swinging laughing
                1. Tatyana Sementsova
                  Tatyana Sementsova 14 June 2020 19: 23 New
                  -8
                  But can it be more specific what is a smoke screen and why? Can you justify?
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 19: 25 New
                    -19
                    Quote: Tatyana Sementsova
                    Can you justify?

                    You asked the wrong person)))

                    I just do not consider these amendments a "smoke screen".
                2. NordUral
                  NordUral 14 June 2020 20: 33 New
                  16
                  Trees are swinging, Golovan wakes up.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 20: 49 New
                    -18
                    Quote: NordUral
                    Trees are swinging, Golovan wakes up

                    Golovan never sleeps. He is napping. This work)))



                    Admins do not go home. Because if they go home, something will fall. And you have to go to work. And they don’t like going to work. And they don’t go. They live there

                    I'm not an admin, I'm just a programmer. And I live, in the light of recent experiences, at home.

                    But there’s no time to sleep request

                    And as for the amendments - IMHO with them is better than without them. And I do not care about “zeroing” - there are no eternal ones, we’ll all die. But a couple of sensible things will remain.

                    Somehow yes
                    1. NordUral
                      NordUral 14 June 2020 21: 09 New
                      +5
                      Blessed is he who believes. Okay, wait and see. Good luck in the writings of the righteous!
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 22: 24 New
                        -10
                        Quote: NordUral
                        Good luck in the writings of the righteous

                        Pasib yes
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 18: 57 New
              +5
              Quote: KAV
              Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!

              Verbiage, not amendment.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 19: 11 New
                -21
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Verbiage, not amendment

                Volodya, I can send you the terms of reference that I am working on now. You are guaranteed not to understand Nikerta in it, and probably also declare it to be “verbiage”.

                Nevertheless, this is a very specific task that will be solved and put to work. Don't you see any analogies yet? wink laughing
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 20: 41 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Terms of Reference

                  So, and the people elected will probably understand. laughing
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 20: 44 New
                    -15
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    and the people elected will probably understand

                    Yes, I spit from the belfry on these "chosen ones". In this we have the problem that the "chosen ones" pass ... whoever.

                    If wider - the problem is the general literacy of the inhabitants. Starting from communicating with credit banks, ending with the election "chosen one".

                    But - this is not quickly treated, unfortunately. So to send TK, or well nafig it? wink
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 20: 51 New
                      +5
                      Exactly that
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Well, what for

                      I have enough of my tasks, but I’m not loading them with anyone. And as for the deputies, there such shots sat and sit, which sometimes was not clear, it was broadcast from the Duma on the radio, or from KVN. A type of law on bees where a swarm that has flown away must be returned to the owner.
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 20: 52 New
                        -11
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Well, what for

                        Ok, beat.
              2. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 15 June 2020 11: 55 New
                -3
                Verbiage, not amendment.

                Some amendments are sensible, but about priests, family, etc. Verbiage. The more letters, the more solid and foggy. The American constitution, everything is simple and clear, no verbiage. Can copy American?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 15 June 2020 12: 06 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Alex Justice
                  Can copy American?

                  Yeah, but at the same time the laws of their states. The type who got out of prison relies on a revolver and a horse so that he gets away to hell.
            3. Roman123567
              Roman123567 15 June 2020 10: 10 New
              +5
              Otherwise, the overwhelming mass of amendments has a correct and positive goal!
              There is no purpose from the word at all ..
              Protect our natural resources .. Protect animals ..
              Well, take it and protect it !! Or did the old constitution prohibit doing this ??
              The one who yesterday took away pensions from people yells that in order to rectify the situation it is necessary to change the constitution .. Theater for suckers ..))
          2. DVR
            DVR 14 June 2020 22: 08 New
            0
            And these are changes that almost no one knows

            Well, what are you so rude? Can't you read? This question follows from your comment.
            Personally for you:
            Since writing is nonsense, you can read it.
            https://конституция2020.рф/amendments
        6. Tatyana Sementsova
          Tatyana Sementsova 14 June 2020 19: 20 New
          -8
          And why are those who say real things so minus?
          1. Andobor
            Andobor 14 June 2020 20: 34 New
            -23
            Quote: Tatyana Sementsova
            And why are those who say real things so minus?

            The information war - the horses for Western money are fighting with "Russian propaganda".
        7. Snarkxnumx
          Snarkxnumx 14 June 2020 21: 12 New
          10
          "requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution"
          I would change the constitution, why would they be nullified?
          All problems in the country, the government is not accountable to citizens. Therefore, we have no chance for development.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 15 June 2020 01: 30 New
            -9
            "There is no chance of development" - What specifically.
        8. Prole
          Prole 15 June 2020 09: 39 New
          +9
          Have you read the amendments? apart from claims that the water should be wet, the sun is bright, and white snow there has not changed much. For example, an article on the role of the central bank has not changed; it, as before, remained a commercial structure not accountable to the state. Officials can still have dual citizenship, property abroad. Only one party can steer as before, and the election results will be zealously guarded by structures controlled by the ruling circles. Courts to be appointed by them and off we go. In the state, the usurpation of power is in the face and the new edition does not solve anything.
        9. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 15 June 2020 15: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: Vitaly.17
          Quote: Shurik70
          No matter how useful the individual amendments are

          .
          Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

          Your words remind me of a saying - "I’ll sell a goat to enemies to prevent children from drinking milk" bully

          How can I vote for both good and bad amendments together in one heap ??? !!! stop fool
        10. Private89
          Private89 15 June 2020 19: 53 New
          0
          I agree with you, with one amendment, adopt the 1936 constitution.
        11. smart ass
          smart ass 16 June 2020 10: 22 New
          -1
          You get involved with hard drugs.
        12. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 16 June 2020 11: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Vitaly.17
          Only this fact alone requires the principle of adopting a new Constitution.

          What is changing dramatically there?
      2. Deck
        Deck 14 June 2020 16: 17 New
        50
        If the amendments really supported the "absolute majority" - why would you need to hang gigantic posters on the streets with agitation?
        Why would there be speeches by call masters calling for support for the amendments?
        Why would it be necessary to simplify all procedures to the utmost, not to pay attention to passport details, and to allow voting at home without any good reason?
        Why would a weekly early vote be needed?
        Why would it be necessary to force “state employees” to forcefully vote for this vote, hysterically demanding mandatory attendance and participation in early voting (which allows replacing ballots)?
        They would have waited for the day of voting - and went to draw up protocols confirming the massive support for the amendments.

        And so are children's excuses unworthy of the leader of a great country. In short, muhlezh-zeroing.
        1. Dmitry Donskoy
          Dmitry Donskoy 14 June 2020 16: 32 New
          -26
          I am not a fan of GDP and disagree with it in many respects, but I think that the way we are going is the right one. And now let the liberals blame me, but I will vote for the new constitution. hi
          1. tatra
            tatra 14 June 2020 16: 38 New
            31
            But your comment looks a lot like the manuals of Putin’s paid propagandists, for whom all who are against the amendments are "liberalists and agents of the State Department."
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 18: 23 New
              -23
              Quote: tatra
              But your comment is very much like training manuals of paid Putin propagandists

              But your comments - in general it is impossible to confuse with anything. In 90% of cases, they begin with "enemies of the communists who ..." laughing
              1. tatra
                tatra 14 June 2020 18: 37 New
                +4
                Ha, the eternal response of the enemies of the Communists on the principle of "self", "defense through attack."
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 18: 41 New
                  -18
                  Quote: tatra
                  Ha eternal answer enemies of the communists

                  Well, here I am about the same good laughing
            2. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 14 June 2020 18: 46 New
              -23
              Rather, it’s just boobies, but maybe some small part and agents of the State Department.
              1. Andobor
                Andobor 14 June 2020 20: 41 New
                -17
                Quote: Herman 4223
                a small part and agents of the State Department

                from a neighboring country - there is no other job in Ukraine, and here they are fighting against "Russian propaganda"
                for State Department money, and the State Department steadily allocates money for this, - by law.
            3. loki565
              loki565 14 June 2020 19: 12 New
              +5
              What kind of double standards you have, you don’t like what people who call amendments against
              "liberalists and agents of the State Department."

              Well, then you yourself call the person
              paid Putin propagandists
              for the fact that his opinion is different from yours)))
              1. tatra
                tatra 14 June 2020 19: 41 New
                10
                Unfortunately, this is so. On the Web FOR what Putin is doing is entirely his paid propagandists with the same manuals. The main ones are "and you remember what happened in the 90s", "who are against Putin are liberals, agents of the State Department, enemies of Russia, hohlotrolls."
                1. DVR
                  DVR 14 June 2020 22: 17 New
                  -5
                  The main ones are "and you remember what happened in the 90s", "who are against Putin are liberals, agents of the State Department, enemies of Russia, hohlotrolls."

                  I am a simple engineer, but I say similar :)
                2. DVR
                  DVR 14 June 2020 22: 18 New
                  0
                  If there is an opportunity to earn extra money on what I do for that, let me know.
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 16: 54 New
            29
            Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
            but I believe that the path we are following is correct

            Right? Can you tell me your year of birth and occupation?
            Such an interesting way is the way of plundering the country and the population, in order to establish laws and dictate the right with already stolen capital. fellow
            If you ask what this path is, you can even answer. BUT!!! stop Stretch yourself, tell us how, as a result of the financial pyramids, the country's population is able to enrich and make their dreams come true ...
            In the country there was such a situation that people began to take loans to pay off old ones, but you like it ... Are you, by chance, not a bank employee?
            1. mvg
              mvg 14 June 2020 18: 05 New
              +4
              You, by chance, are not a bank employee

              But are bank people not people? Do not take loans? Not all banks have 300K salaries
              1. DVR
                DVR 14 June 2020 22: 23 New
                +3
                You are right, the lowest link in a regional bank is in the region of 25-50K. Head of department (depending on direction) - 40-80K.
            2. Dmitry Donskoy
              Dmitry Donskoy 14 June 2020 18: 18 New
              +1
              64 year old military pensioner
              1. bunta
                bunta 14 June 2020 18: 30 New
                11
                Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
                64 year old military pensioner

                Clearly, pension reform does not concern you.
                1. Motorist
                  Motorist 14 June 2020 20: 26 New
                  +2
                  And what - to deprive of the right to vote ?!
                  A friend of mine (a young guy who at the same time “drowned” for Navalny) said that it was necessary to deprive the voting rights of Russian citizens living abroad. I proposed in return to allow migrant workers from Central Asia to the polls. You know, he agreed! I even had nothing more to parry ... request
                2. Aag
                  Aag 15 June 2020 22: 14 New
                  0
                  For a long time, I wrote the answer in detail to you, it didn’t crawl. Tomorrow I'll try to repeat it.
            3. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 18: 26 New
              -18
              Quote: ROSS 42
              In the country there was such a situation that people began to take loans to pay off old

              This is called refinancing. with a competent approach - quite a working tool.

              The problem is that nobody really taught the current "adults" to calculate the consequences of their actions ... about risk analysis and other high matters - there’s even no sense to talk here.

              The result - they got loans, bought junk, now they are sitting with their mouths full ... loans. Well, themselves Pinocchio, no? wink

              They said since childhood: free cheese - in a mousetrap. Whoever decided to check - that’s how it sits ... I personally have a debt, if there is one, it is paid off due to the salary for a maximum of a month ...
              1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                DymOk_v_dYmke 14 June 2020 20: 20 New
                0
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                The problem is that nobody really taught the current "adults" to calculate the consequences of their actions ... about risk analysis and other high matters - there’s even no sense to talk here.

                They (unlike the party and koms. Assets) were not told in advance about what they intend to turn their country on their behalf.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 20: 51 New
                  -12
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  The problem is that nobody really taught the current "adults" to calculate the consequences of their actions ... about risk analysis and other high matters - there’s even no sense to talk here.

                  They (unlike the party and koms. Assets) were not told in advance about what they intend to turn their country on their behalf.

                  You know ... I'm already an adult boy, and grew up with the Union. But for twenty + years, not understanding what a bank loan is is, sorry, a clinic.

                  I got it laughing

                  PS: minus is not mine, corrected.
                  1. DymOk_v_dYmke
                    DymOk_v_dYmke 14 June 2020 20: 59 New
                    +6
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    You know ... I'm already an adult boy, and grew up with the Union. But for twenty + years, not understanding what a bank loan is is, sorry, a clinic.

                    I got it

                    Congratulations!
                    And if you bother to linger over the Bible or the Qur'an and manage to understand what the loan interest is and why it’s bad to treat it, I’ll also congratulate you on this hi
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 22: 26 New
                      -12
                      Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                      if you bother to browse the Bible or the Qur'an and are able to understand what the loan interest is

                      Yes you are impudent, my friend ... to tell you about the Arab banking?

                      There, too, not without a percentage, only it is framed a little differently ... the physics of the phenomenon from this does not change yes
                2. Sergey39
                  Sergey39 14 June 2020 21: 03 New
                  +2
                  Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
                  did not speak in advance

                  As they said. They just didn’t want to listen or thought that it would resolve itself.
              2. mvg
                mvg 14 June 2020 22: 39 New
                +4
                I personally have a debt, if any, is paid off due to the salary for a maximum of a month ...

                You know, it’s complicated for young people to buy an apartment without a mortgage. With any RFP. It is better to pay a loan for your home than a comparable amount for rent. Not everyone has an apartment from their grandmother. Not everyone gets along with their parents. You just need to have insurance for an emergency or a job change. Or when another crisis comes to the country
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 22: 49 New
                  -6
                  Quote: mvg
                  It is better to pay a loan for your home than a comparable amount for rent. Not everyone has an apartment from their grandmother. Not everyone gets along with their parents. You just need to have insurance for an emergency or a job change. Or when another crisis comes to the country

                  Competently
              3. savage1976
                savage1976 15 June 2020 02: 19 New
                -4
                The audience of the site has slipped into a complete "slag" .. Minus anyhow just minus even when they explain the simple truths.
          3. codetalker
            codetalker 14 June 2020 18: 08 New
            -15
            Patriots graze here, not liberoids.
          4. Paul Siebert
            Paul Siebert 14 June 2020 19: 05 New
            +5
            The Soviet Union, basically, collapsed not for economic reasons and not because of the influence of Western intelligence services.
            Our Soviet Motherland died due to lack of truths.
            At the meetings of labor collectives they said one thing - in the shops another.
            From the stands of the congresses the third was broadcast - in the kitchens they whispered about the fourth.
            The fifth was extolled from the screens and posters, and at the flea markets they chased after the sixth ...
            When the moment came to rally around the leaders and defend their way of life, their country - people spat and went home ...
            Nobody believed the elite, like the shepherdess who shouted: "Wolves, wolves!"
            Overtaken common sense, drowned in pathos sensible things ...
            What does today's power do?
            Walking the beaten path ...
            You can not engage in fraud behind the people, and the banal fear of the loss of power to drown in the hysterical pathos of the "struggle for amendments."
            People have grown wiser over the past three decades. And it’s not seen enough of such "cunning" ...
            You can't lie. The people will not forgive.
            Hatred of lies - you will not reset. wink
            1. tatra
              tatra 14 June 2020 19: 52 New
              +5
              Any power is lying to the people, and we, in the territory of the former USSR, have been living for more than 30 years in a state of TOTAL lies of the enemies of the USSR that have captured the USSR, starting with their anti-Soviet Perestroika. . And in the post-Soviet period, supporters of the USSR proved that they were for the truth about the history of their country, and enemies of the USSR proved that they were for slandering the history of their country.,.
            2. smart ass
              smart ass 16 June 2020 10: 31 New
              0
              All the time, someone is to blame, but the West is better to blame! Suppose ... well, what did you sit on the couch when your USSR collapsed? Why didn’t they go under the tanks at the government house? Or was it handy to watch on a warm sofa?
          5. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 14 June 2020 20: 07 New
            +8
            Quote: Dmitry Donskoy
            I am not a fan of GDP and disagree with it in many respects, but I think that the way we are going is the right one. And now let the liberals blame me, but I will vote for the new constitution.

            Zaminusut you are not liberals. And they’ll do it right. Earned.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 14 June 2020 17: 37 New
          11
          And so are children's excuses unworthy of the leader of a great country. In short, muhlezh-zeroing.
          No leader, no great country! Everything requires updating and recovery. But there is no decisive vote from the people, if we are still the people
        3. pleschakovai
          pleschakovai 14 June 2020 18: 11 New
          +8
          For 20 years, the authorities have learned how to lie, cheat, deceive and fool the population of Russia, call them ordinary Russians and villagers, instead of the WORKING CLASS and PEASANTY! That's right, because the working class is the grave digger of capitalism! What is not very profitable for the new Gus capitalists! And now a dumb electorate! They brought up a consumer society that is not viable and not capable, which is what they achieved !!!
          1. DVR
            DVR 14 June 2020 22: 31 New
            -1
            How do you propose a grave? Tell me in detail your plan, interestingly.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 15 June 2020 01: 40 New
            -4
            The working class and the peasantry are already battered and obsolete expressions. Russia for 30 years in a market economy with concomitant capitalism, and you seem to be stuck in the USSR, and how there the media lied about everything in the country, it does not make any comparison with the current time.
        4. Tatyana Sementsova
          Tatyana Sementsova 14 June 2020 19: 26 New
          -11
          Please indicate the name of a worthy leader in your opinion. And what a worthy thing he has already done ..... (If not difficult) thanks.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 21: 09 New
            +4
            Quote: Tatyana Sementsova
            Please indicate the name of a worthy leader in your opinion.

            Leonid Ivashov. CEC swept the election.
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 07: 03 New
              0
              I googled ..... A gray horse, unknown to anyone really ..... What are these experiments on the people of Russia? And secondly, there are rules for submitting a candidacy .... He stamped around, stamped around, then woke up ..... So apparently he wanted .... But now we can say that the CEC rolled .....
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 15 June 2020 07: 13 New
                +2
                Quote: Tatyana Sementsova
                I googled ..

                Clearly with you.
                1. Tatyana Sementsova
                  Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 07: 15 New
                  -4
                  And with you ....... All the best .... hi
          2. bunta
            bunta 14 June 2020 23: 02 New
            +9
            Quote: Tatyana Sementsova
            Please indicate the name of a worthy leader in your opinion.

            Judging by the registration date, Madame, work out your pieces of silver with pre-prepared stamps. So, the price is worthless to such a leader who does not have a worthy replacement for himself. Well, how is a brick on the head or a coronovirus in the lung? Under Catherine the Great there was a whole battalion of managers from Potemkin to the brothers Orlov and Suvorov. Even under Nikolai the Bloody was Stolypin! Now who? Rotenbergs and Rogozins? The absence of strong personalities not only in the opposition, but even in the immediate environment, speaks of the weakness of the government and its inefficiency. The country is unmanageable, due to the lack of adequate leaders who can take responsibility. There is no feedback as a necessary element of any system control. We live under ourselves without feeling the country ... (c)
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 06: 54 New
              -4
              Well this is blah, blah, blah, I heard, and where is the last name? And at the expense of Serebrennikov, would be ashamed .......
              1. bunta
                bunta 15 June 2020 08: 02 New
                +5
                Quote: Tatyana Sementsova
                , and where is the last name?

                Ask Putin if you do not understand anything.
          3. Roman123567
            Roman123567 15 June 2020 10: 12 New
            +4
            And what worthy he has already done.

            And what worthy has Putin already done by 1998, when he was appointed president ?? Was able to wear a suitcase ??
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 11: 35 New
              -2
              I don’t even want to discuss with you ...... Your general would have scratched less, would have participated in the elections .......
            2. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 12: 49 New
              -4
              If we hadn’t found him in due time, today we would have nothing to be proud of ...... We would live like everyone who believed the West .......
          4. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 15 June 2020 12: 02 New
            +2
            Russia needs a real competitive party. This is the only way development will be.
            1. Tatyana Sementsova
              Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 12: 54 New
              -3
              Here !!!! Verity Truth GOODS !!!!!! fellow
              But the problem is that there are no particular competitors. Everything that is offered as an alternative to Putin’s course is not very supported by the people ...... Just there are already examples of these courses --- Ukraine ....... at least ..... Few people want to ride to the tune of the United States ......
      3. Civil
        Civil 14 June 2020 16: 57 New
        -16
        Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.
        Most of those who unsubscribe to VO here will not live up to 2036 ... your choice was in 1991, when they kept quiet modestly)
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 17: 23 New
          11
          Quote: Civil
          Most of those who unsubscribe here in VO will not survive until 2036.

          I see, you are a nice person, have you measured two centuries? Wait and see...
          1. Civil
            Civil 14 June 2020 17: 46 New
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: Civil
            Most of those who unsubscribe here in VO will not survive until 2036.

            I see, you are a nice person, have you measured two centuries? Wait and see...

            I see how we are, men are dying in packs and I don’t drink illusions.
            1. Interlocutor
              Interlocutor 14 June 2020 19: 13 New
              -12
              I see how we are, men are dying in packs and I don’t drink illusions.

              But I do not see. I see that they live humanly.
        2. NordUral
          NordUral 14 June 2020 17: 40 New
          +5
          Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.

          To dream is not harmful.
          1. Civil
            Civil 14 June 2020 17: 49 New
            -17
            Quote: NordUral
            Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.

            To dream is not harmful.

            This fact has already happened, for the discontented there is the Russian Guard, and for the especially slow-witted tank armies, they will push without hesitation believe it.
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 14 June 2020 18: 16 New
              +8
              Do not expect such people as you are not so many, and the rest are not as reliable for you as you would like. People are getting smarter.
        3. Wolverine
          Wolverine 14 June 2020 19: 08 New
          -5
          Quote: Civil
          Smile, you don’t influence anything anymore, GDP at least until 2036, and then there is a son or daughter, and most likely there will already be technologies for replacing organs with modern devices.
          Most of those who unsubscribe to VO here will not live up to 2036 ... your choice was in 1991, when they kept quiet modestly)

          All the chaos in the world began because “THEY” no longer control anything, the forces of evil are fighting in the last convulsions, their actions are impulsive, following the example of coronovirus, laws adopted by the package, brazen intimidation of peoples, orange revolutions, etc. Zeroing occurs with us by all the nations of the world, the revaluation of values ​​is underway, and this is what happens most strongly above with the forces of evil because God himself has accepted our bright side and nothing will come of them.
        4. Vadim237
          Vadim237 15 June 2020 01: 42 New
          -4
          Putin will retire in 2024 and maybe even earlier and not immediately after the adoption of the new constitution, just as unexpectedly as the Medvedev government was dismissed.
      4. Svarog
        Svarog 14 June 2020 18: 31 New
        26
        Quote: Shurik70
        No matter how useful the individual amendments are

        There they made traffic rules from the Constitution .. There is not a single item that needs precisely those amendments that have been made. Everything worked like that .. but there is a point about resetting to zero .. and that’s why it’s all started. I am terribly annoyed that citizens are held for donkeys .. especially when I hear very intrusive advertisements where they say that without amendments to the Constitution, animals are in danger ..
        1. KAV
          KAV 14 June 2020 20: 44 New
          -9
          Quote: Svarog
          There is not a single item that needs precisely those amendments that have been made.

          Oh really??? Well, then, everything is clear with you. You are attracted and enraged by only one point! The rest are completely uninteresting to you. But to me, for example, as a citizen of Russia, other things are interesting in the amendments, which will bring much more benefit to the country and our people! And I consider them very necessary and long-awaited! And here you are agonizing only by one amendment ...
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 15 June 2020 10: 15 New
            0
            And to me, for example, as a citizen of Russia, other things are interesting in the amendments


            In vain you rejoice .. as they offended animals before amendments, they will also offend after ..

            which will bring much more benefit to the country and our people!

            you don’t confuse your wool with folk ..
      5. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich 14 June 2020 18: 44 New
        -6
        Quote: Shurik70
        No matter how useful the individual amendments are


        This is called the evil of all frostbite ears. For me it’s so stupid.
      6. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 14 June 2020 18: 47 New
        +8
        Quote: Shurik70
        Each amendment requires a separate decision.

        It should be clear to everyone that a problem has arisen between the people and the authorities on the issue of amending the Constitution. And it must be solved.
        Will the government be able to find the courage to make two options (pros, cons) for each amendment to the ballot? That would be honest with its citizens.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 14 June 2020 20: 47 New
          +8
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Will the government be able to find the courage to make two options (pros, cons) for each amendment to the ballot? That would be honest with its citizens.

          Late. The train left. They could be honest, but did not want to.
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 14 June 2020 21: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Will the government be able to find the courage to make two options (pros, cons) for each amendment to the ballot? That would be honest with its citizens.

          With such a massive information attack on Russian society from all sides, it would be more correct to cancel this vote altogether. The amendments are still practically accepted.
      7. Locksmith
        Locksmith 14 June 2020 18: 51 New
        -7
        Quote: Shurik70
        Each amendment requires a separate decision.
        If they will go as a "single package" personally, I will vote against.
        No matter how useful the individual amendments are

        I’ll vote = FOR, I’ll explain, there’s more benefit than harm, this under-cosmonaut is walking harm to herself, so don’t be able to compete .... belay
      8. smart ass
        smart ass 14 June 2020 18: 51 New
        +6
        I will also vote against until 1 million money is returned to me + 5 years of life after the pension reform.
      9. Ros 56
        Ros 56 15 June 2020 06: 24 New
        -4
        And we are so worried that you vote against, even food does not go to mind. Maybe enlighten the near-minded, that does not suit you.
      10. zenion
        zenion 16 June 2020 13: 57 New
        0
        So you are opposed to Putin breaking Stalin’s record in power. There is of course a difference, the power of the people and the power of the plutocracy, but stuffed wallets to the bulb.
    2. snake
      snake 14 June 2020 16: 46 New
      -1
      Where the president got such information is not reported.

      Quote: marchcat
      Either Levada or VTsIOM did their best.

      Angels sang in ears ...
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 14 June 2020 17: 04 New
        13
        According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange.
        oh how! wassat
      2. bayard
        bayard 14 June 2020 17: 27 New
        0
        What kind of “angel” do you have?
        1. snake
          snake 14 June 2020 19: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: bayard
          What kind of “angel” do you have?

          Nope. One Astrakhan craftsman.
    3. unaha
      unaha 14 June 2020 18: 42 New
      +1
      Yes, no, the CEC has already reported the voting results)))
      1. tatra
        tatra 14 June 2020 18: 55 New
        +1
        Favorite Putin's voting results in all elections in Russia with him 60-70%.
    4. Vicontas
      Vicontas 14 June 2020 20: 44 New
      0
      “Levada” and VTsIOM have already tried setting the “galley slave” rating to a modest 15-17%! But since the CEC is not an independent organization, you can be calm and confident that you will draw any necessary result! Recall the famous - "Ne is important how they voted - it is important how they counted!"
    5. Lexa-149
      Lexa-149 14 June 2020 21: 21 New
      +1
      It was he who was told by the very people who were begging Tereshkov.
  2. bunta
    bunta 14 June 2020 15: 33 New
    0
    Is he still in the bunker?
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 14 June 2020 15: 43 New
      -11
      Quote: bunta
      Is he still in the bunker?

      Divorced the same "bunker witnesses." Do you know about this for sure, or is it just a grasp of the thoughts of "witnesses of the Maidan"?
      1. A good one
        A good one 14 June 2020 15: 58 New
        -9
        Quote: Marconi41
        Quote: bunta
        Is he still in the bunker?

        Divorced the same "bunker witnesses." Do you know about this for sure, or is it just a grasp of the thoughts of "witnesses of the Maidan"?

        No, she's a witness. yes
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 14 June 2020 16: 28 New
        20
        Quote: Marconi41
        Divorced the same "bunker witnesses."

        laughing And where else can you conduct online briefings with the same interior as two months ago?
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 14 June 2020 17: 01 New
          -4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And where else can you conduct online briefings with the same interior as two months ago?

          And the president certainly does not have an office in Novoogoryovo! If anything, he even received the heads of state there. Probably also lowered into the bunker?
          If you are writing about something, then definitely know what it is about. Do not spread delusional rumors.
      3. Andobor
        Andobor 14 June 2020 20: 52 New
        -3
        Information war - horses run.
      4. bunta
        bunta 14 June 2020 22: 26 New
        -2
        Quote: Marconi41
        Divorced the same "bunker witnesses"

        The center of government has always been the Kremlin.
        A country residence is a place of temporary residence, residence, and not government. The same bunker.
      5. Vadim237
        Vadim237 15 June 2020 01: 44 New
        +1
        Yes, they don’t know anything - if only what kind of garbage to blurt out.
    2. BARKAS
      BARKAS 14 June 2020 16: 02 New
      +3
      Yes, no agent in the bunker "Trump"
    3. codetalker
      codetalker 14 June 2020 18: 10 New
      0
      Are you still in the "tank"?)
  3. New
    New Year day 14 June 2020 15: 34 New
    22
    There is no way out - supporting amendments to Putin is extremely important, because otherwise, as a decent person and officer, he must leave. And where to leave when such a lafa is president for life. Therefore, everything is dear to him, everything is for his immortality, although there are no immortals. And then? - And then.....
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 14 June 2020 15: 41 New
      13
      If decent officer.
      And if the like a slave in the galleys?
    2. ximkim
      ximkim 14 June 2020 16: 04 New
      -4
      Cloning and that's it.
    3. depressant
      depressant 14 June 2020 16: 08 New
      +2
      There are no immortals. So I always say - "imperishable." In the conditions of modern computer capabilities, there is no longer any certainty that the president is talking to us.
    4. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 17: 06 New
      +7
      Quote: Silvestr
      as a decent man and officer he should

      Sylvester, a decent officer must do something else ... hi
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 14 June 2020 18: 07 New
        20
        Dumas somehow bet the bet. According to the conditions, he had to shoot himself. Dumas went to his office. A shot rang out. Everyone froze. After some time, Dumas appears and says: gentlemen, I have missed ..
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: parusnik
          Dumas somehow bet the bet. According to the conditions, he had to shoot himself. Dumas went to his office. A shot rang out. Everyone froze. After some time, Dumas appears and says: gentlemen, I have missed ..

          class! Old Dumas was good! good
      2. New
        New Year day 14 June 2020 20: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Dead Day
        a decent officer must do something else ...

        Perfectly! Here the option is simpler
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 14 June 2020 22: 57 New
          -3
          Quote: Dead Day
          a decent officer must do something else ...

          Perfectly!

          Where will it aim?
          Here the option is simpler

          0: 0? lol
    5. Locksmith
      Locksmith 14 June 2020 19: 07 New
      -4
      the joke is funny and therefore dangerous, because he himself dispersed normal parties and normal applicants, because there is no one to choose from (for the first time !!), therefore complaints are not accepted = they were chosen. But only Onet was able to build the oligarchs back = so that they would benefit us, and not Omeriga, they respect us at the outer line, and thanks to him. HZ, I think I need to start with myself, it’s not the oligarchs who do not give us work, but the same entrepreneurs who do not undertake but simply whine.
      Mlyn, even a bear noticed, == that this is a pancake for entrepreneurs who do not undertake anything ...
      My factory fulfills the order for disarmament, the machine tools were 87 years old, then there were no normal processors, 40 boards were sitting on the bus, memory on small dips were 18 output, the machines were old, it’s good that friction pairs are slipping, not roller balls, right now, they suffer. But what characteristic, neither repair nor change == new menachers are not at all ready smile
    6. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 20: 03 New
      -6
      There is no way out - support for amendments to Putin is extremely important, because otherwise, as a decent person and officer, he must leave
      We need corrections much more than Putin.
      laughing If the amendments are not supported by the people through voting, then the constitution will remain the same.
      And the amendments will be adopted by parliament, with all the "nishtyaks" arising from this for themselves.
      But this is not familiar to you. good
      1. New
        New Year day 14 June 2020 20: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: flicker
        If the amendments are not supported by the people through voting, then the constitution will remain the same.

        I want to upset you - the Chairwoman said that they have already been adopted and are working, and voting is Putin’s desire to hear the opinion of the people and nothing more

        Quote: flicker
        But this is not familiar to you
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 15 June 2020 00: 09 New
          0
          and voting is Putin’s desire to hear the opinion of the people and nothing more

          Who will tell him the truth - next to him are only friends, slime dishes and "watchdogs". Flatterers will bungle any "funny pictures" for budget money.
        2. flicker
          flicker 15 June 2020 22: 56 New
          -1
          I want to upset you
          Come on.
          I want to please you.
          4. Article 1 of this Law shall enter into force on the day of the official publication of the results of the all-Russian vote (taking into account the features established by part 7 of this article) if the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by it have been approved during the all-Russian vote.
          5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation who participated in the all-Russian vote vote for them.

          But if the amendments fail (and they include a ban on foreign citizenship, real estate and accounts abroad), the Constitution will remain the same, and the necessary amendments will be adopted by deputies and the Federation Council without the opinion of the people, though the ban on foreign nishtyaks will not be included in the amendments.
          And yes, zeroing the deadlines will be accepted.
          Well, who will be to blame for you? bully
    7. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 14 June 2020 20: 30 New
      -9
      I won’t take it into my head, but that everyone was so excited about the so-called zeroing? In my opinion, Putin is far from the worst president for the Russian Federation. And I do not believe that in the 24th year he will go for the next term. But his successor or not successor should have a chance to be president as much as the people allow him. At least two, at least three terms.
      And so that they do not sing, but the rating of trust in Putin among the people is still oh how high. Of the current politicians, none is a real competitor.
      1. New
        New Year day 14 June 2020 20: 50 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
        current politicians, none is a real competitor.

        Do they have existing politicians? These are talking heads with no opinion. Corona virus showed that they are all power spoilers
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich 14 June 2020 21: 15 New
          +1
          Let's say they are power spoilers. But where then aren't spoilers? Is it not Yavlinsky forgive the Lord, or Kasyanov, or someone else?
          Can anyone name a real alternative to Putin as president or an alternative to EDRU as the leading faction in the State Duma?
    8. Lexus
      Lexus 14 June 2020 22: 47 New
      0
      And then.....

      At least a flood. Some are already clumsily testing the ground for canonization. With all the consequences. hi
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 14 June 2020 23: 38 New
          -3
          Alexey

          Ohhh ... unheard of progress. A compliment from me! wink

          I read your ribbon ... somehow it is not visible from it - an officer.

          Are you trying to sniff something out again? Fume? Don’t ... don’t hope. You’re not looking there: either you don’t have any peace of mind, you’re studying your opponents below the belt, then you’re picking yourselves in “dirty linen”, then you spoil the confidence atmosphere of the discussion, etc. Then you are surprised that your company is shying away. “And the casket just opened” (C) - to understand the officer, you need to be him.

          As, by the way, from the "Stroporez" - the paratrooper.

          So what brings you all the wrong way and the wrong way? For example, I feel unpleasant when “bones rinse” behind my eyes. Your buddy "near-bottom" often sins this. It’s weak in the eyes. Leave the ban, then present it to him. It will be interesting to see these attempts.

          You are not relatives, an hour?

          "All people are brothers!" (C) Have you heard? Although, what am I talking about ... Good night!
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 23: 47 New
            -2
            Quote: lexus
            to understand the officer, you need to be him

            And I was. And not only me - I just asked a question that is not interesting to me alone.

            Quote: lexus
            Are you trying to sniff something out again? Fume? Don’t ... don’t hope. You’re not looking there: either analyzes of peace do not give, then you study opponents below the belt, then you poke around in “dirty linen” ...

            A lot of foam, buddy. And too sloppy language. They didn’t teach me this.

            The question remained, by the way: what kind of bursa, what kind of "second Chechnya." For now - I hear a bird, no more.
  4. ohka_new
    ohka_new 14 June 2020 15: 37 New
    27
    So that they do not do things
    Evidently the Constitution failed them again ..
  5. AUL
    AUL 14 June 2020 15: 37 New
    28
    Reminds how a naughty schoolboy turns around in front of his parents!
  6. Karaul73
    Karaul73 14 June 2020 15: 40 New
    15
    This is all untrue! You are lying! If briefly.
    In general, do not bother working on the galleys.
    1. depressant
      depressant 14 June 2020 15: 58 New
      +7
      To wave the oars, it would be necessary to plug the holes in the galley to start.
      1. Qas
        Qas 14 June 2020 16: 07 New
        11
        You must first change the rowers. Everyone knows their surnames
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 14 June 2020 16: 31 New
          10
          Quote: Qas
          You must first change the rowers.

          Rowers are us. They look after and rule.
      2. flicker
        flicker 14 June 2020 19: 55 New
        -8
        To wave the oars, it would be necessary to plug the holes in the galley to start.
        And suddenly you’ll find yourself a “hole”. You are proposed through amendments not only to plug the holes, but to transfer from the galley to the ship - and you are yelling that you don’t want to get anywhere, and continue to make holes in the galley and at the same time moan that we can drown. bully
      3. New
        New Year day 14 June 2020 20: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: depressant
        To wave the oars, it would be necessary to plug the holes in the galley to start.

        So the perpetum mobile turns out, the more holes, the more fun the oars to work, and the more fun, the more holes. And money is flowing out of holes
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 14 June 2020 23: 03 New
          -1
          So the perpetum mobile turns out, the more holes, the more fun the oars to work, and the more fun, the more holes. And money is flowing out of holes

          The thing is "family"! So, you see, very soon all the people's good and "annul". And then they will say that it all “ascended”, for which later everyone will certainly be rewarded, but this is inaccurate.recourse
    2. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 57 New
      -3
      In general, do not bother working on the galleys.
      And what quality are you at these galleys?
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 14 June 2020 15: 49 New
    12
    Vladimir Putin said earlier that "the final decision will still remain with the people in the course of direct voting in the elections."
    .... In the final decision of the people in a direct vote, there is no doubt ... laughing Watch the Smeshariki Truffle series
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 17: 08 New
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      Smeshariki "Truffle"

  8. A good one
    A good one 14 June 2020 15: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: filim
    Quote: Silvestr
    and officer

    Did he serve in the army?
    Did not know.

    Yes, where did they get the knowledge, forelocks themselves with a mustache. wink
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 14 June 2020 16: 01 New
    +2
    That puzzled people ....
    THE SYSTEM is like that cat Vaska, anyway he’ll eat sour cream, she’s kind of a care what kind of cook there will be. Any ststemny, nothing and never prevents her.
  10. signifera
    signifera 14 June 2020 16: 02 New
    23
    I read all the amendments to the constitution, I wasn’t too lazy, because all butter is oil, nothing has changed much, in other words, the general sense, somewhere added points, somewhere reduced, somewhere replaced and rephrased, such as limited deputies and ministers do not have dual citizenship and accounts abroad, but to rewrite to a wife or other person that interferes. I so governed the abstracts and reports downloaded from the Internet, when I was studying, you change words or sentences and the type is no longer plagiarized, like I wrote it myself, like it will not be calculated, and you have never caught it. So here, but they launched some kind of propaganda, as if according to the old version of the constitution it is impossible to live and the country is about to fall apart. But about zeroing, it immediately catches your eye, you can immediately see why it all started.

    "It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported."
    Also, they will not tell us later how the votes were counted in their favor laughing
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 17: 02 New
      15
      Quote: Signifer
      Where the president got such information is not reported. "

      Exactly from where he learns that the middle class in Russia are those whose income is above 17 rubles a month, and for a carefree stay, a salary of 000 rubles a month is enough.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 14 June 2020 17: 27 New
        +6
        Quote: ROSS 42
        and for a carefree stay, a salary of 12 rubles a month is enough.

        and, accordingly, the same pension.og ...
    2. Yarhann
      Yarhann 14 June 2020 18: 55 New
      -2
      Well, at least someone read the amendments and that’s good. And then, as usual, I did not read, but I condemn)))
    3. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 48 New
      -4
      nothing has changed much, in other words the general meaning, somewhere added points, somewhere diminished, somewhere words replaced and rephrased
      Interestingly, what did you expect?
      Well, like: execute, execute with particular cruelty ...?
      ---
      “Paraphrased” - this is not enough for you, but for lawyers it can be a lot.
  11. Doccor18
    Doccor18 14 June 2020 16: 04 New
    16
    The final decision will be made by parliamentarians ...

    75% of which represent one party in power, support and entirely depend on it ..
    that "the final decision will still remain with the people in the course of direct voting in the elections."

    This is yes.
    According to the president, he finds the criticism of the amendments strange.

    Criticism is not about making amendments, but about the amendments themselves, their interpretation and the breathtaking haste with which they want to accept them.
    1. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 43 New
      -10
      and the breathtaking haste with which they want to be accepted.
      They had to be taken back in February. But they deliberately delayed (under various pretexts, they say people) until mid-April, and then the pandemic delayed it even more.
      We are not in a hurry, we are late in their acceptance. Because of what they are limited in their capabilities (economic primarily).
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 21: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: flicker
        we are late with their acceptance. Because of what they are limited in their capabilities (economic primarily).

        What will the amendments give to the economy?
  12. knn54
    knn54 14 June 2020 16: 08 New
    11
    In Britain, Brexit was discussed for two years, and then a couple is three months.
    1. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 37 New
      -5
      In Britain, Brexit was discussed for two years, and then a couple is three months.
      There, the parliament adopted a constitution. And people like you are not even asked there.
      1. kotvov
        kotvov 16 June 2020 12: 50 New
        0
        And people like you do not even ask. ??
        Well, yes, they ask people like you. Which are always ready, but just what?
    2. Andobor
      Andobor 14 June 2020 21: 03 New
      -2
      Quote: knn54
      In Britain, Brexit was discussed for two years, and then a couple is three months.

      In Britain, the misunderstanding at the exit from feudalism is stuck, and here - developed democracy.
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 14 June 2020 16: 11 New
    +9
    The final decision will be made by parliamentarians, and the president will not have the right to reject.
    ... The president will propose the prime minister, according to the amendments, but will he reject the edrosovskoy majority of the Duma? .. Further, the functions of the State Council are not understood .. By the way, they will be determined by a separate federal law ..
  14. ALARI
    ALARI 14 June 2020 16: 15 New
    26
    1. Under the current constitution, all amendments have already been adopted.
    2. If Suddenly they will NOT be accepted by the people during direct voting in elections, then see point No. 1.
    What kind of person is he about Thomas, and he is about Yeryoma.
    1. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 34 New
      -4
      What kind of person is he about Thomas, and he is about Yeryoma.
      Try to think.
      For example: why did you need a popular vote for constitutional amendments adopted by parliament, the Federation Council and regional parliaments?
      1. New
        New Year day 14 June 2020 21: 05 New
        10
        Quote: flicker
        why did you need a popular vote for constitutional amendments

        Psychotherapy for GDP. The mandate of the people to the kingdom. Suddenly the descendants will write, made a coup d'etat, and so, far away, the people asked and agreed. And GDP from the coup becomes legitimate. I want to go down in history and not get involved
        1. flicker
          flicker 16 June 2020 13: 48 New
          0
          The mandate of the people to the kingdom.
          I understand that this is a figurative expression, but nevertheless the image must really correspond - the people of the kings did not choose, this title is still hereditary.
          Suddenly the descendants will write, made a coup d'etat, and so, far away, the people asked and agreed.
          To nullify the deadlines, just a constitutional amendment supported by 2/3 of the deputies, 3/4 of the senators, approved by the regional parliaments and the president’s signature - all will be legal.
          ---
          Well, why then for him is the opinion of the people?
          ---
          The amendments to the popular vote have an article 71 clause "t" -
          r) the federal public service; establishment of restrictions for filling state and municipal posts, positions of state and municipal service, including restrictions related to the presence of citizenship of a foreign state or residence permit or other document confirming the right to permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation in the territory of a foreign state, as well as restrictions related to the opening and availability of accounts (deposits), storage of cash and valuables in foreign banks located outside the territory of the Russian Federation.

          I already wrote to you, but once again: if the people vote against the amendments, the constitution will remain the same and the majority of the same amendments will be adopted by the deputies (AND THIS WILL BE LEGAL!), Though a number of amendments will be "nullified" including the above.
          ---
          Well, what will you achieve?
          Only strengthen the existing position! Do you want this (consolidate the existing situation)?
          ---
          Bred you as little children.
          In the language of customers, this is called "arouse blankheads."
          Following the example of miners in the late 80s and early 90s, who fought against the CPSU and, as a result, contributed to the collapse of the USSR.
          Or those who in 2014 maidanil in Ukraine. "Dummies" in Ukraine were sure that they were creating the great history of Ukraine. Now we see what kind of story it is.
          So it is here in VO.
  15. ShM05
    ShM05 14 June 2020 16: 19 New
    21
    As I see here, many justify changes to the constitution they say it was written by the Americans, the CIA, etc., that is, it took Putin the former KGB officer 20 years to understand this? Then it’s clear that the KGB specialist was as useless as the president now. It is clear to any sane person that this is intended to be reset to zero. For 20 years, the constitution did not bother him to rule and sign all the necessary laws for him, and when the end of rule loomed on the horizon, it suddenly became American
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 17: 11 New
      11
      Quote: ShM05
      and when the end of rule loomed on the horizon ...

      Tell me, if you do not change anything, will the pension and summer cottage suit this gentleman? Every time you hear that there is no substitute for him. Neither him nor his team. This director of the enterprise can tell the employee: “We have no irreplaceable!”, But here is a completely different story ...
      A dozen or two more will be put under house arrest, and there will certainly not be a replacement ...
      1. ShM05
        ShM05 14 June 2020 17: 22 New
        12
        When, due to health or age, he cannot fulfill the role of a doll, they will find a replacement for him just like they found Yeltsin (special. I write with a small letter), but for now the longer he steers it is beneficial to everyone except the people of Russia, so you need to change the system, preferably it happened from above (science fiction), and if I say a different way, then for this article for rocking the gallery.
        1. New
          New Year day 14 June 2020 21: 08 New
          +5
          Quote: ShM05
          When due to health or age he will not be able to perform

          And haven’t you seen in the last 2-3 months that he can no longer, and his health is no longer okay, he still hasn’t left self-isolation. People are already walking with might and main, and he is still on observation. Why?
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 14 June 2020 23: 57 New
            -1
            People are already walking with might and main, and he is still on observation. Why?

            Maybe Potanin is afraid? He threw the pen. smile
    2. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 30 New
      -5
      that is, it took Putin the former KGB officer 20 years to understand this?
      It was clear to him even 20 years ago. But the scribblers here at VO do not understand this until now. It is in our interests to amend the constitution, and we are aching: we don’t want to zero, ... the impression is that many here just like to whine.
      1. tatra
        tatra 14 June 2020 19: 56 New
        +3
        Well, yes, "the mice cried, pricked, but ate a cactus." Putin understood everything, but for 20 years he ruled Russia under the Constitution, written by the Americans.
        1. flicker
          flicker 14 June 2020 22: 19 New
          -5
          Putin understood everything, but 20 years ruled Russia under the Constitution written by the Americans
          I had to. And not to rule, but to save. It's hard for you to believe, but it is.
          He recalled Shoigu, Putin only became president, they flew together with another emergency, Putin was silent for a long time, and then said: "all the same, there is a CHANCE to save the country and this chance must be taken."
  16. Tugarin
    Tugarin 14 June 2020 16: 23 New
    10
    Apparently, the advisers reported on the discontent of the masses.
  17. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 14 June 2020 16: 30 New
    11
    It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

    And why tell the president who such information is - and everyone knows that. Personally, I will vote against the amendments. As I already wrote: in the amendments there are constitutional guarantees for the president, officials, deputies and even animals, but for war veterans - no. Our "constitution" does not value those who, by order of the state, risking their lives, goes into battle ... Even if the "absolute majority" accepts the amendments and nullifies Putin, we will wait for a new "guarantor" ...
  18. Finn
    Finn 14 June 2020 16: 32 New
    12
    And what's the point of changing the constitution? To register a husband and wife, not parent 1 and 2, so for this proclamation is responsible, for atheists to return an article in uk for sodomy, what does the Criminal Code and the basic law of the Russian Federation have to do with it? Raising the pension, so who prevents it from being raised without registration in the constitution, medicine will not change overnight after the adoption of the amendments. For me, this is the theater of the absurd. Offensive. Khrushchev remembered corn, Dmitry canceled the belts and the fact that his words were minted on granite. This GDP is likely to be noted in the history of the Russian Federation. Better corn and Khrushchev.
    1. UserGun
      UserGun 14 June 2020 16: 40 New
      12
      Quote: Finn
      Offensive.


      Even more offensive, when practically nothing is said that for the sake of the only amendment - zeroing the zeroed out, this whole theater is started. It is worthless to ALL promises that have never been and never will be fulfilled and, accordingly, worthless to such a zero, the only ability of which is to lie.
      1. flicker
        flicker 14 June 2020 19: 22 New
        -7
        Worthless to ALL promises that have never been and never will be fulfilled
        What is really hard?
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 14 June 2020 16: 44 New
      13
      Register husband and wife, not parent 1 and 2, so proclamation is responsible
      ... No, the Family Code of the Russian Federation. It’s enough to amend it .. and there are no contradictions, but it will not be with this Constitution ...
  19. arlekin
    arlekin 14 June 2020 16: 35 New
    +8
    "- Explain to us, Red Sun,
    why are we so bad.
    Why, no matter how much we work,
    Still, we can’t get better.
    And the Red Sun comes out to them,
    He tells them human Volodin.
    - Because we can’t get better,
    What is our Constitution ". (C)
    1. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 17 New
      -7
      Explain to us, Red Sun,
      why are we so bad.

      I understand that this is the wife who asks you so often?
      I wonder how you answer her?
      However, I guess: you say that Putin is to blame for everything! bully
  20. O. Bender
    O. Bender 14 June 2020 16: 38 New
    17
    About the Russian subsoil it is necessary to make amendments, and we are putting in a salad!
  21. alone
    alone 14 June 2020 16: 42 New
    19
    Amendments should be adopted on separate articles .. Here then it will be possible to know the opinion of the people.
    1. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 13 New
      -6
      Amendments should be adopted on separate articles ..
      Yeah, and the whole constitution was adopted in 1993.
      Moreover, not many countries adopted the constitution through a referendum (moreover, for the most part, Africans, or third world countries), as well as some sort of constituent assembly.
      And you want for each amendment separately.
      1. alone
        alone 14 June 2020 19: 20 New
        +3
        Maybe there are 10 good amendments that need to be adopted, but 1 amendment just crosses out these 10. Now what do you propose to do? refuse 10 or one?
        1. flicker
          flicker 14 June 2020 22: 13 New
          -1
          but 1 amendment just crosses out these 10
          Well then, you need to vote for each article of the constitution, and there are 137 of them and each of them consists of several more parts. Are you sure you can handle it?
          And yes, you do not like what amendment?
          1. bunta
            bunta 14 June 2020 23: 05 New
            +1
            Quote: flicker
            Well then, you need to vote for each article of the constitution, and there are 137

            just don’t have to leave the question, it’s not about every article, but about amendments. But to vote separately for the bottom there is just no problem.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 23: 27 New
              -9
              Quote: bunta
              just don’t have to leave the question

              Ask a question to make it clear. This -

              Quote: lonely
              Maybe there are 10 good amendments that need to be adopted, but 1 amendment just crosses out these 10. Now what do you propose to do? refuse 10 or one?

              - not a question, but a nimble trolling. Buddy yes
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 23: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: flicker
            Are you sure you can handle it?

            I’ll master it, no questions asked.
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 19: 29 New
      -15
      Quote: lonely
      then it will be possible to know the opinion of the people

      But is it necessary? The opinion of the "people", in principle, is already known - "bread and circuses." And preferably free yes

      Is it worth undertaking expensive events for this? IMHO no no
  22. faterdom
    faterdom 14 June 2020 16: 45 New
    +7
    It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

    How where, he watches TV! And there...
  23. alex007i
    alex007i 14 June 2020 16: 47 New
    20
    It is unclear why people are being mixed up, so that if something happens - they say they themselves voted?
    We have carried out pension reform without a referendum and let them do the same here.
    Why this farce with a vote, I do not understand.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 06 New
      -1
      Quote: alex007i
      It is unclear why people are being mixed up, so that if something happens - they say they themselves voted?
      We have carried out pension reform without a referendum and let them do the same here.
      Why this farce with a vote, I do not understand.

      good good good
  24. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 14 June 2020 17: 23 New
    +4
    And who noted this?
    It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

    He didn’t say so, he said: "I sure that...".
  25. Wertgan
    Wertgan 14 June 2020 17: 42 New
    -22
    The purpose of the amendments is the beginning of the movement towards sovereignty. And it is right. Vote for!
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 14 June 2020 18: 03 New
      +5
      The purpose of the amendments is the beginning of the movement towards sovereignty
      ... Does it still live without sovereignty? ..
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 15 June 2020 00: 01 New
        +2
        ... Does it still live without sovereignty? ..

        27 years. Of these, 20, in fact, at the present.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 18: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: WertGan
      The purpose of the amendments is the beginning of the movement towards sovereignty. And it is right. Vote for!

    3. flicker
      flicker 14 June 2020 19: 00 New
      -14
      The purpose of the amendments is the beginning of the movement towards sovereignty.
      All true.
      And the minuses say that Russophobes of all stripes will resist.
      They already cried crying how will they now complain about the power of the Russian foreign master?
      1. tatra
        tatra 14 June 2020 19: 59 New
        +8
        That is, Russia has not had sovereignty under Putin for 20 years, and Putin obeyed someone in the world?
        1. flicker
          flicker 14 June 2020 22: 51 New
          -8
          Russia has not had sovereignty under Putin for 20 years, and Putin obeyed someone in the world?

          article 15 part 4 “Generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
          If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than prescribed by law, then the rules of the international treaty shall apply. "
          That is, we were forced to comply with the decisions of international legal institutions (courts and other European parliaments, the UN, etc. having international status), for example, to join the sanctions against Iran, even when it hit our economic interests (could not sell weapons, finish building Nuclear power plants and so on). Gazprom is forced to pay Ukraine by decision of the Stockholm court.
          The same Central Bank could not print money for the Russian economy in excess of the currency that was gained from the sale of oil and gas.
          Because of what, the key rate of the Central Bank was from 10 to 20%.
          Our enterprises were forced to lend to foreign banks. For what they needed to get a credit rating, the latter is assigned through audit companies (also western). Western audit, western credit rating, western banks - as a result, another dependence on the West.
          ---
          We can get rid of this and other infections through the amendment to article 15.
          So yes, the country was obliged to obey international norms and principles: including optimizing health care, raising the retirement age, juvenile justice, imposing same-sex marriages, etc.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 23: 26 New
            +4
            Quote: flicker
            international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.
            If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than prescribed by law, then the rules of the international treaty shall apply. "

            Do you have any brains?
            1. flicker
              flicker 15 June 2020 08: 41 New
              -1
              Do you have any brains?
              It seems to you time to tie a booze.
          2. Revival
            Revival 15 June 2020 10: 51 New
            +4
            Are you laughing chtoli?
            Do you understand the meaning of the word international treaty?
            What prevents him from concluding? We have no obligation to conclude any contract! Do not like it do not sign! If he himself signed, then why are you going to not execute? Changed his mind, terminate the contract on the procedure, what is the problem?
            Where will Gazprom go from foreign arbitration if even with the amendment even without a contract they conclude it only subject to consent to this arbitration!
            But it is not enough to insist on concluding a contract (extension) of the contract without the condition of in-country arbitration of the forces, so the amendment has nothing to do with it.
            2. The UN takes decisions by the Security Council, in which we have the right to veto, that is, the very binding decision that is so disadvantageous to us may not be “born,” but we did not block any sanctions against Iran, and this is not an amendment. For this, a will is needed, which is independent of the amendment.
            Do not confuse warm with soft ...
            1. flicker
              flicker 15 June 2020 12: 26 New
              -4
              Are you laughing chtoli?
              Do you understand the meaning of the word international treaty?
              It is necessary to read completely, and not just some part. And not with the Mordvin, but a little higher with me, there is a quote from the Constitution, article 15.
              ---
              ... "And" international treaties.
              And before "And" it is said: "Generally recognized principles and norms of international law And ..."
              And all together: "Generally recognized principles and norms of international law AND international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system.

              If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than prescribed by law, then the rules of the international treaty shall apply. "
              ---
              So it is not so much about the cabality of international treaties (which, I agree, you can not conclude), but about obligations to comply with international norms and principles.
              --
              Juvenile justice is registered in international norms - that means, according to the Constitution, we are obliged to introduce this, etc. etc.
              ---
              Before comparing the “soft” with the “warm”, bother to read carefully.
              1. Revival
                Revival 15 June 2020 13: 55 New
                +1
                International norms and principles are what we ourselves adopted when creating the UN, human rights, etc. Designed and adopted with our participation.
                No new mandatory will appear, I remind you of our right to veto the UN, we do not like blocking ...
                Or did the right to life suddenly bother us?
                Juvenile justice in the 1950s could not be spelled out. If we do not use the veto right now when trying to enter it, then who is to blame for us that she will appear there? We’re vetoing and will not appear, we can’t get around here if we don’t want to
                1. flicker
                  flicker 15 June 2020 16: 00 New
                  -3
                  International norms and principles are what we ourselves adopted when creating the UN, human rights, etc. Designed and adopted with our participation.
                  Yes, accepted, but ...
                  There is really a trick there.
                  For example, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), article 3, "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person."
                  It would seem a wonderful article, protects a person, his rights. All for!
                  And then this article begins to be filled with certain content, for example: the human right to same-sex marriage, the right to change sex, and so on. Further more, not just the right to change sex and the right to same-sex marriage, but the total propaganda of such relations in schools begins. The ban on propaganda is assessed as a violation of rights, etc., etc.
                  ---
                  Those. at the beginning they take an attractive sign, and then fill it with disgusting content.
                  ---
                  Our trouble (and not only ours) is that we are not allowed to influence the content of this “attractive sign”.
                  ---
                  It happened with article 15, part 4, of the Constitution of Russia. We signed up for it, but it turned out to be harmful to us.
                  Therefore, an amendment is needed that gives us the right to abandon harmful international norms and principles.
                  This amendment is made.
                  1. Revival
                    Revival 15 June 2020 18: 33 New
                    +1
                    The document may change (fill out), etc., only by equivalent force, additional agreement, addition, etc.
                    Consequently, the human rights adopted by the UN Security Council cannot be changed (filling), without the corresponding adoption by the UN Security Council. And there we have a veto.
                    How is a sign filled with unsuitable content?

                    "All for!
                    And then this article begins to be filled with certain content, for example: the right of a person to same-sex marriage, the right to change sex, and so on. Further more, not just the right to change sex and the right to same-sex marriage.
                    ---
                    Those. "they take an attractive sign in the beginning, and then fill it with disgusting content."

                    In what form is the filling in, in the form of which document? Just verbally chtoli?
                    They cannot change to fill out the document adopted by the UN Security Council, without our consent, since we have the right to veto!
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 16 June 2020 01: 05 New
                      -3
                      How is a sign filled with unsuitable content?
                      I read you and realized that everything is very badly launched what
                      In what form is the filling in, in the form of which document? Just verbally chtoli?

                      The problem is not in the "form of filling", but in the content.
                      And to understand this is not as easy as you think.
                      For example, explain what is “freedom”?
                      And convince the other that it is.
                      Gay is freedom or not?
                      And what is justice?
                      1. Revival
                        Revival 16 June 2020 13: 09 New
                        +2
                        "I read you and realized that everything is very badly launched."

                        After this your sentence, I thought that you began to understand something, but after reading your comment I further realized that alas, absolutely alas ..
                    2. flicker
                      flicker 16 June 2020 01: 43 New
                      -3
                      Human rights adopted by the UN Security Council cannot be changed (filled) without the corresponding adoption by the UN Security Council. And there we have a veto.
                      Before stupid to write at least wondered: how the UN General Assembly differs from the UN Security Council.
                      Then they would not have written about the "human rights adopted by the UN Security Council," because it deals with issues of peace and security.
                      And here is the gene. The UN Assembly deals with moral and political issues, including human rights. The resolution is adopted by 50% or more of the votes of all UN members, and we do not have a veto right there, unlike the UN Security Council.
                      So they will accept the right to be gay, which means we will be obliged to comply, if we do not accept the amendments.
                      1. Revival
                        Revival 16 June 2020 13: 11 New
                        +2
                        Happy for you! I understood your fears, can you imagine, if the UN General Assembly had accepted mandatory compulsory geyser, then you would have to start observing right away, and there is a chance to slip through thanks to the amendments.

                      2. flicker
                        flicker 16 June 2020 17: 35 New
                        0
                        understood your fears
                        You are well done good
                        You can only understand your fears laughing but you can ascribe your fears to anyone, but at the same time they will not cease to be yours.
                        This is so that you know for the future.
                        ---
                        if the UN General Assembly would accept about compulsory gayness, then you would have to immediately begin to comply
                        Not to me, but to the state.
                        As a result, a conflict would begin to develop between the traditional values ​​of the population and the government, which accepted these Western values.
                        And we have enough conflicts.
  • Стена
    Стена 14 June 2020 17: 44 New
    +2
    The president is generous.
    Pamfilova at a meeting of the CEC said that the amendments to the Constitution have already been adopted, and to vote on them is the good will of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    “This law has already been adopted, amendments have been adopted, this process itself is legitimate,” Pamfilova emphasized. - And it is only possible to treat with great respect the fact that the president did not stop there, and his political will and desire is to hear in this case the opinion of the people not provided for in the current Constitution.
    Key phrase! He went for it, it is worthy of great respect. "
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 14 June 2020 17: 47 New
    +9
    "We are doing everything for you and for your sake, just what we get for ourselves ...." If I offer you pineapple, ice cream, julienne, a cocktail and much more tasty, oo flavored crap ... oh, then at the exit everyone will eat crap ... mo.
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 14 June 2020 17: 49 New
    +8
    I have one question for Tereshkova: Aunt Valya, have you read your amendment?
    A weak spread of the vote: for all other amendments and for the very one because of which everyone started?
    1. flicker
      flicker 16 June 2020 14: 03 New
      -1
      A weak spread of the vote: for all other amendments and for the very one because of which everyone started?
      laughing The problem is that many amendments are related.
      Your family will not buy a car in parts.
      You will buy the body of the frets priors, your wife will buy wheels from Kamaz, and your son will buy a wheel from a scooter ... well, your daughter will also contribute to the family car. laughing

      In general, this is a training manual for torpedoing the adoption of amendments to the Constitution, such as: "zeroing", separately for each amendment, etc. bully
  • impostor
    impostor 14 June 2020 17: 59 New
    -3
    Amendment law passed. This is a fait accompli. On March 16 this year, it was published on the official publisher of the WG signed by the President. Break the spears further. https://rg.ru/2020/03/16/popravka-v-konstituciyu-dok.html
    1. Azis
      Azis 14 June 2020 19: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: impostor
      Amendment law passed. This is a fait accompli. On March 16 this year, it was published on the official publisher of the WG signed by the President. Break the spears further. https://rg.ru/2020/03/16/popravka-v-konstituciyu-dok.html
      Read the law to the end
      4. Article 1 of this Law shall enter into force on the day of the official publication of the results of the all-Russian vote (taking into account the features established by part 7 of this article) in the event if the amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation stipulated by it have been approved in the course of the all-Russian vote.
      5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved, if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation vote for themwho participated in the all-Russian vote.
      1. impostor
        impostor 14 June 2020 20: 21 New
        -2
        You are mistaken a little. You are trying to oppose the rule with a process that a priori has a dominant role. But this is not your fault, the legal conflict was constructed by the best minds from the law
        1. Azis
          Azis 15 June 2020 22: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: impostor
          You are mistaken a little.
          I am not mistaken. He simply brought the so-called "letter of the law." De jure change acceptedbut for now not approved. In fact - everyone already knows everything.
          Quote: impostor
          has a dominant role.
          I understand who has, whom it has and who plays the leading role.
          1. impostor
            impostor 16 June 2020 23: 58 New
            0
            The law has been passed procedurally, no need to invent anything, the head of the CEC confirmed this fact.
      2. flicker
        flicker 15 June 2020 22: 14 New
        -2
        5. Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation provided for by Article 1 of this Law shall be deemed approved if more than half of the citizens of the Russian Federation who participated in the all-Russian vote vote for them.
        And if more than half of the citizens vote against, the Constitution will remain unchanged.
        And then the fun begins.
        Almost all amendments can be adopted without a popular vote: 2/3 of the deputies, 3/4 of the Federation Council, approval of regional parliaments and the signature of the president. bully

        Almost all amendments, but not all - amendments against the "nishtyaks" will be removed.
        All "nishtyaki" for officials and deputies will save.
        ---
        Ask: what about the people?
        And the people will decide their fate by voting bully
        True, one of the scribblers (anti-nullifiers) will earn their ... on a fret viburnum.
    2. bunta
      bunta 14 June 2020 22: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: impostor
      Amendment law passed.

      In this case, you just need to go and vote against.
      1. flicker
        flicker 15 June 2020 22: 19 New
        -2
        In this case, you just need to go and vote against.
        So, what is next? bully
  • zontov79
    zontov79 14 June 2020 18: 03 New
    0
    He thinks that the writings in our eyes are all God's dew? It turns out that we vote for the limitations of the power of a permanent leader. Yes, no matter what, if he turned to the people in front, and back to the forest.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 14 June 2020 18: 29 New
      -2
      It turns out that we vote for the limitations of the power of a permanent leader.
      . good It turns out so ... laughing I am unchangeable, but limited in action laughing
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 14 June 2020 18: 05 New
    +8
    Dear Leader has already deceived more than once. The credit of trust has been exhausted.
  • flicker
    flicker 14 June 2020 18: 37 New
    -6
    It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.

    Indeed, where does the president get such information? request
    The president, by his post, should not know anything, he is not sitting here in tongue drinks wassat (as the vast majority of enlightened Russians do this drinks ), and therefore cannot be aware of how the population relates to the amendments.
    ---
    And the population is here ... on who drinks , who crying
  • Avior
    Avior 14 June 2020 18: 59 New
    -1
    . Where the president got such information is not reported.

    From where from
    Signed voting protocols saw where else smile
  • Angrybeard
    Angrybeard 14 June 2020 19: 00 New
    -4
    Why is he wagging? I want to rule forever, I would say so. Only there is one but. His personnel policy. All these Mustaches, Rogozins, and other unsinkable Mutko. With such people it is difficult to hope for a breakthrough of the country from poverty and the status of a raw materials appendage.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 14 June 2020 19: 19 New
    -4
    Vote, do not vote, anyway, the Constitution has already been declared de facto adopted.
    The tops want to consolidate their hundreds of percent profit ...
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 14 June 2020 20: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: flicker
    In general, do not bother working on the galleys.
    And what quality are you at these galleys?

    I’m just for you, a bad guy, a shame. You have such spreading ears under Putin’s noodles grown, which is just awful.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 14 June 2020 20: 06 New
    +3
    A single package of amendments looks crooked and makes me vote against.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 14 June 2020 20: 27 New
    -9
    In short, if you want, then come on as you want, and if you want, then come on.

    I'm going to vote. Because.
    And whoever does not want or against, let them remember 1993, when they did not ask anyone.
    1. adler87
      adler87 14 June 2020 21: 53 New
      -1
      So this, in fact, everything is already accepted without us. I don’t see a big difference with either 93 or the late USSR.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 14 June 2020 21: 29 New
    -3
    Putin said everything correctly, but my opinion is that in Russia it is generally necessary to abolish the time limit for the president, only in the elections the people decide once every 5 years whether the old president remains or chooses a new one.

    Presidents temporary workers will all behave in such a way with the oligarchs so as not to make enemies, that is, they will not protect the interests of the people !!!

    The president was limited in time in the USA in 1947, after the death of Roosevelt, who was in power for 4 terms and it was the most popular president of the USA !!!

    In Germany, the Chancellor has no time limit and nothing, no one usurped power and created 4 Reich.

    In Ukraine, presidents are changed every 5 years for a new one and there is no sense, everyone has hopes and everyone will be cursed in a couple of years.
    1. adler87
      adler87 14 June 2020 21: 51 New
      -2
      Well, in principle, you are in favor of changing the constitution of each new president, as he needs, but! with the filing of Tereshkova, required.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 14 June 2020 22: 57 New
        -4
        Well, in principle, you are in favor of changing the constitution of each new president, as he needs, but! with the filing of Tereshkova, required.


        The president does not change the constitution; only people can vote on it !!!

        And the time limit for the president of Russia needs to be canceled once and for all !!!
        1. adler87
          adler87 15 June 2020 09: 23 New
          -1
          The constitution has already been amended. And the opinion of the people, for a long time, the president, on matters of vital concern to him (the president), does not bother. Pension robbery is an example to you.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 16 June 2020 09: 33 New
            0
            The constitution has already been amended. And the opinion of the people, for a long time, the president, on matters of vital concern to him (the president), does not bother. Pension robbery is an example to you.


            It’s great to be “smart” when you don’t answer for anything and your mistakes will not lead to dire consequences for the whole country, you can take revenge with your tongue like a broom.

            Nobody has changed the constitution and will change it only if the majority votes for it.

            As for the pension reform, this is not a whim of Putin or the government, but the new conditions in which Russia lives:
            - an increase in life expectancy in Russia and an increase in the number of pensioners (42 million people);
            - a decrease in the number of workers and making deductions to the PF of the Russian Federation (they gave birth in the 90s)
            - decrease in budget revenues from the sale of resources.

            What would you do at the place of power, provided that the number of pensioners grows and the income of the pension fund decreases? Raised taxes on workers? Would you gobble up the reserves? And then what did you think about paying pensions to the next generation?

            In my opinion, let retirement be a little later, but those people who really can’t work because of old age will receive much more.

            It may be news for you, but in the mid-30s, under Stalin, when they introduced a pension and the retirement age was the same 55 years for women and 60 years for men, the average life expectancy in the USSR was 40 years - for women and 35 years for men !!! This is before the war, without taking into account the statistics of losses in the war.

            Putin could easily lower the country's reserves to pay pensions and not raise his age and leave handsome. He was already under 70, another 10 years of the country's reserves would have been enough, and then all the problems would have fallen on the new president. But Putin is not a populist, but a leader of the country and thinks not of himself and not of today, he perfectly understood what kind of negativity would pour on him and all the same made this decision, because in the future it will help to avoid more serious problems.

            All countries of the world have long raised their retirement age, in Poland until recently, it was 67 for both men and women, in China only civil servants pay their pensions, and many old people just shave, in other countries of the world, regardless of the level of development, retirement age also raised LONG !!!

            And you can do it like Ukraine, do not raise the retirement age, but require a minimum of 25 years of experience, and soon in Ukraine you will need 35 years of experience to retire !!! But how to get them if half the country is working illegally in the EU ?! That is, these people who do not gain experience in receiving at best a social pension, and a few years later. Here's how to deceive your people.

            In Russia, the minimum length of service for retirement is 10 years, which not everyone manages to gain by the age of 60.

            The pension system is not the only person’s income in old age, it’s just insurance from the state, so that the person does not remain without everything at all !!!

            Do you want to retire earlier, get more, work, earn, invest accumulated in stocks, real estate, precious metals, some kind of business, now there are such opportunities.

            The average pension today is 14 rubles. To receive such income it is enough to buy one one-room apartment in the regional center and rent it. Or accumulate 500 million rubles in a stock account in bonds and bonds and get the same dividend income. Leasing one taxi brings about 2,5 rubles or more !!! This is so for a throw off.

            Everything can be achieved now in Russia, but for many, like you, it is much easier to whine, moreover, on the network, inciting others. However, you do not even realize the essence of the problem !!!
            1. adler87
              adler87 19 June 2020 22: 28 New
              -1
              Well, I see how you were rationalizing here, you need to close up such a treatise. So you sit there on the sofa for days, as I look.
              Putin has already signed the law on amending the constitution. Aw! Wake up! Of course, we have yet to vote. Moreover, the chairman of the CEC herself said that it would be possible to see the legitimacy of all this "circus." Yes, and you can show your passport there for 2 meters or so and temporarily remove the mask. We are only now finding out that the commercials for voting were shot before the amendment proposals. Great, right?
              You wrote about the inevitability of the pension reform, so confidently. Well, what can I say. Back in school, my math teacher said, in the case of your “notes” like this: show me a heap of paper with calculations that this is impossible! There is no heap of paper, or from the government reported to you and presented the calculations? And how vile was all this presented? In May 18, Peskov said that Pu was not aware of the pension reform project, it was the prerogative of the government. That’s how, but Pu, the president seems to be with us, and about pensions I hung up all the time, all 20 years: until I’m the president, I won’t raise my age. And he didn’t say anything before the election. Well, isn't it mean, huh?
              As for 30 years, etc., there were few pensioners then. I think it will be news for you that labor productivity in Russia has been rising since then, and an increase in the number of pensioners is offset by an increase in labor productivity. And, I would understand if Pu went out and said that people, here we have done the following: we raised taxes for the rich, reviewed the salaries of top managers, defeated corruption and much more, but it’s not enough to feed pensioners anyway. Well, here I would somehow understand and see that, yes, all the people bear a burden. But for some reason, our deputy in the year 13 received 160 tr, and now 250 tr This is what, in your opinion, the country lives so hard that at the expense of pensioners, we raise the salary of deputies. And they’re not at all for it. This is stupid "vote". Nothing depends on them, see how everyone promptly adopted the amendments.
              That's why nefig raise the retirement age. Moreover, they raised the age NOT TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PENSION. Calm down, no one on her 12 tr. not going to raise.
              You are here about Poland, but Ukraine. More about Russia for 13 years, here bend and about pensioners of Uganda and Upper Volta for the full picture. And I’m talking about America and Germany: in America, Reagan told the people that the age of retirement will be raised ... from 2000. And he said this in what year? Do you know? In 1980, if memory serves. In Germany they raise the age, yes. But how! Each year, 1 month is added. But in America and Germany, a bunch of other compensations, benefits, etc. You won’t die of hunger there. In America, you can retire earlier, in Germany you are paid a pension earlier if you can’t work for health. And we have? And yes, why didn't the military raise the retirement age? Well, it’s understandable why, Pu is afraid of the military, power support is very important for him. And I, having worked at a construction site for 30 years, should now be 65 years old, excellent.
              And you know that they can’t get the minimum length of service because of our government and deputies, it was they who organized our economy so that a lot of people worked unofficially, especially in the 90s. And just do not need it here, but, since unofficially, then you don’t even pay. If there is nothing for people, then you will go anywhere to work. And yes. Here's a bunch of people working in the 90s and 00s unofficially, their pensions are harsh, well, our state cannot even pay them, as promised at 55 and at 60.
              Pension is for many the only income in old age. And keep all your fictions with you.

              You write: "Do you want to retire earlier, get more, work, earn money, invest accumulated in stocks, real estate, precious metals, some kind of business, now there are such opportunities." Here, more specifically, disclose the topic to me, I want to retire early, etc. What stocks? And how many? Well, with a salary of our middle class of TR 17? The property? Look at the prices, which property, where? Precious metals? Yes? How can you make money on them? What a business !!! Ha what? What are such opportunities? What are you talking about? We all turn out to be fools, and you are so iksperd, enlighten. Accumulate 2.5 million ?! Well, okay! When the salary of the middle class 17 TR
              Renting a taxi, well, of course. We have a car in Pollyama, well, I will invest them, and what? Well, I’ll get how you write 30 tr. And after 3-4 years, no car, no money, what’s next to lease.
              There is no need to throw it offhand. And then you have problems only with our government, and we are all parasites and loafers here, such horizons are painted here, the clerk is wonderful.
              And, yes, and about the errors that there like can lead somewhere. At work, I’m connecting the wrong wire to the wrong place, but I can easily fly out of work. We have a bunch of people upstairs that need to be planted through every first one, and they all spin around the bush. This optimization of medicine. Who flaunted for it. Pension reform, in my memory, is kind of like the third, who was responsible for the failure of previous reforms? And sports, dope? Mutko again at the post. I want it too, let me go there. If I already have boxers, hockey players and tereshkovs, and whoever is not there. They do not know anything about life. This, with Rosprirodnadzor, real estate of almost 800 Lyam! Where from ?! And there is such a sea! And you say that retirement must be increased, there is no other way out. There is!
              1. Ratmir_Ryazan
                Ratmir_Ryazan 20 June 2020 12: 49 New
                -1
                Yes, and the passport can be shown there for 2 meters, and the mask can be temporarily removed.


                I don’t need to write nonsense about a passport that is shown for 2 meters and other nonsense. No need to bring everything to the point of absurdity, the voting process is not more dangerous than an ordinary trip to the store, and there are much more people in the store.

                Amendments will be made only after they are voted for.

                If the pension reform in Russia began in the 80s, then it could have been done more smoothly, but we started it one of the last in the world.

                Putin said that he would not raise his pension in 2005, in his second term, and naturally he could not imagine and talk about what would happen in 15 years. Although I repeat, if he didn’t give a damn, he wouldn’t do anything, the country’s reserves were worth $ 565 billion, he could easily do nothing, but then his predecessor would face the same problem, only reserves would be less and measures needed It would take a lot tougher.



                Since 2005, the number of pensioners has increased by 4 million. This is almost the population of Finland !!! 14 per month * 000 * 12 million = 4 billion rubles additionally needs to be spent from the pension fund, despite the fact that the pension is not growing, there are simply more pensioners. And the dynamics of this continues to increase.

                Pension does not depend on labor productivity, but on insurance premiums for workers !!!

                Everywhere, the military is paid a pension after a 20-year experience, all over the world, and this is not due to the fact that someone is afraid of someone, but due to many factors. In Russia, as well as around the world, there are a lot of professions where an early pension, from miners to ballerinas and circus workers. As a rule, early retirement is where high physical activity and harmful working conditions are.

                Today it’s not the 90s, but 20 million people out of 70 million of the able-bodied population are not listed anywhere at all, and the other part is working in gray, receiving 50-60 or more thousand per month, and according to the documents a salary of 1 minimum wage is carried out.

                And the unemployed are not loafers, there are no taxi drivers, builders, repairmen and other people who work, but do not pay taxes. In Ryazan, a taxi driver receives up to 100 thousand rubles a month, but he is not going to pay 4 thousand a month so that everything is legal, because he doesn’t want to, but he still achs that the roads in the city are bad, there are no doctors in hospitals and teachers don’t want to to teach his children normal, because they don’t want to work for 16-20 thousand. And such as this taxi driver - EVERY FOUR !!! This is not speculation, but statistics - check it, type it in a search engine.

                You can sit and whine like you - "but how?", "But what if it does not work out?". And you can work and earn money, while formalized.

                People buy stocks, and rent cars and apartments, but there are some nuances, not everything is simple, but everything is possible. And if you don’t do anything, then nothing will work out for sure.
                1. adler87
                  adler87 20 June 2020 19: 30 New
                  0
                  Enough nonsense. Everything is possible and everything is possible, and do not raise the retirement age and pay pensions. The quantity of product produced by one laborer depends on labor productivity, and the more productive the labor, the higher it is paid, if you do not know this, then do not argue on this topic.
                  I’m talking specifically about Russia and the retirement of the military in Russia. There is no need to immediately drag the whole world, when it is profitable. It is necessary to send the military to retire later, for 5 years. This is normal.
                  And if the whole world was dragged here, then let's raise taxes for the rich.
                  And if we compare, then we must compare with Norway, with Saudi Arabia, and with other countries that live, including oil. we are the poorest country among them all. where did the excess profit go from oil, and from other natural resources? Sambo judokas, obviously.
                  And this is what Putin said then, but now everything is different, and the pension reform did not begin when it was necessary. What are you? What are you talking about? This is the third pension reform in 25 years!
                  I’ll ask you more about stocks and earnings for everything that’s not burning, in more detail, otherwise you just have everything.
                  I have lived in Ryazan for a year, these are such miracle taxi drivers there 100 tr per month receive? Come to yourself. Where are you living, in which room. 100 TR per month, yeah.
                  Although in Ryazan I did not get bad.
                  How is everything possible with us. With a salary of TR 17, this is our middle class, Pu himself said what is possible in Ryazan? Take a trip to Solotcha, that’s what’s possible.
  • Alexy
    Alexy 14 June 2020 21: 43 New
    +3
    Than such “amendments”, so let nothing change better. I am categorically against zeroing. So everyone will be reset to zero and change the constitution. It also has immunity after the end of the term. So you can do whatever you want.
  • adler87
    adler87 14 June 2020 21: 48 New
    +4
    They asked about the zeroing, and he about the election of the prime minister, well done, great balabol major league.
  • itis
    itis 14 June 2020 22: 10 New
    -2
    and the amendments are specific. and the people are politically much more literate than in 93th. against such changes, albeit going in heaps, are only natural born critics of everything that exists (it is difficult to disagree with them). rob them of their daily bread. after another failure, it’s nice to throw it on the valve, they say that the “eternal” is to blame for sitting-sitting, under the constitution recognizing the supremacy of international laws that already kiss the feet of dumb blacks, before sovereign ones. Putin is not eternal, but the amendments will remain. the letter of the law (especially now it became clear that this is the "letter of the law", just words from noodles to the ears) is absolutely not important. important result in the future, which without changes (amendments) will not happen
  • Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 14 June 2020 22: 26 New
    0
    I'm not coming. Let them play themselves. Alien power. Quite a stranger.
  • ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 14 June 2020 22: 58 New
    +1
    It should be noted that on the eve of the head of state said that the vast majority of Russians support constitutional amendments. Where the president got such information is not reported.


    It’s interesting, but where did this information come from?
    A considerable number of Russians believe that amendments will be made to the Constitution (and they have already voted for them in both houses of parliament) in order to remove restrictions on the length of time the head of state is in power.
  • Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 15 June 2020 01: 22 New
    +2
    They limit the role of the president, because the whole gang will sit in the State Council, they will do whatever they want for themselves, and you can choose a dummy president every 4 years, and if anything, dump all the bumps on him ...
    I definitely go to vote AGAINST!
  • Falcond
    Falcond 15 June 2020 06: 38 New
    0
    Everyone understands everything perfectly
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    1. flicker
      flicker 15 June 2020 22: 40 New
      -2
      Have you read the amendments? except for claims that the water should be wet, the sun is bright, and the snow white there nothing much has changed
      Hmm, you'd better not read them good
  • musorg
    musorg 15 June 2020 11: 48 New
    +2
    I am considering the possibility of only a separate vote on each amendment! And the item on the accounts for the hillock, etc. then everything will remain as it was.
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 15 June 2020 13: 59 New
    -2
    There is one question in the bulletins - "Do you support amendments to the Constitution?"
    The sane having looked at Vukraina, and now at the light of "democracy" Crazy States of America, will vote for the changes, and "to whom the mother’s war is native" will vote against ...
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 16 June 2020 11: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Whirlwind
      The sane having looked at Vukraina, and now at the light of "democracy" Crazy States of America, will vote for the changes, and "to whom the mother’s war is native" will vote against ...

      Once again, what amendments are there to avoid the fate of the United States or Ukraine? Do we have a better people? Or will the economy go uphill?
    2. Hort
      Hort 16 June 2020 12: 10 New
      +2
      if you decide to play in the "trust of the people" and build a legal society, then the vote should be each of the proposed changes, not stupid agree / disagree
  • Fishery
    Fishery 15 June 2020 14: 51 New
    0
    it would be funny if it weren’t so sad