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Why is liberal Putin all too liberal?

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Yes, in one of past materials we touched on the fact that in our country there are liberals, and there are liberals. Some are Putin and his team, that is, guardians of the future of Russia, the second is the Dark Lord Navalny and someone else. It is completely incomprehensible who, but the presence of dark forces in the country is not called into question by the majority of residents.


Therefore, personally, I absolutely cannot understand how some liberals theoretically differ from others. All for freedom, equality and a bright future. It’s not entirely clear for whom exactly, but now it’s not so significant.

So Putin is a liberal. The media is talking about this, Peskov is talking about it, Putin is talking about it ... Putin himself!

Putin, with the support of his team, is conducting (as he himself says) liberal reforms in the country. Liberalization in the economy, private sector, culture, education, medicine. Reforms.

Moreover, reforms and projects are often very, very good. And there are national projects - just gold.

Well, tell me, who is opposed to development projects in the field of demography, healthcare, road construction? New and safe roads?

Even the Dark Lord does not mind, he ride on them and ride yet.

I repeat, the essence of the projects proposed by Putin and set forth in the decree “On national goals and strategic objectives of the development of the Russian Federation for the period until 2024”, signed on May 7, 2018, is to continue the work on national projects that began in 2005, is very useful and interesting. On paper, at least.

It is worth saying that "the programs adopted in 2005 are considered unsuccessful in terms of implementation."

I translate: not completely completed.

2018 is the second attempt. Aleksey Kudrin (I hope no one will dispute Kudrin’s liberalism) praised the program, saying, however, that the fate of national projects and national goals lies outside of national projects. And there are many obstacles to the execution of projects. And the selective application of legislation requires the establishment of order in the judicial and law enforcement systems.

By the way, the Duma also criticized the execution of national projects. The percentage of completed projects is appallingly low, more than half of the projects completed by less than 20%. In general, the effectiveness of the implementation of state programs in itself was called into question.

The Prosecutor General’s Office also rated the implementation of projects as unsatisfactory. The Russian Prosecutor General Yuri Chaika during a meeting of the Presidium of the Council on National Projects in November 2019 announced problems in their implementation:

“According to the national project“ Digital Economy ”, only 15% of the 108 billion rubles allocated for this year have been spent. According to the national project "Ecology", only a quarter has been spent. "

According to the information voiced by the Prosecutor General’s Office, in 2019 alone, more than 2,5 thousand violations of laws were detected in the execution of national projects, of which the largest number were in the implementation of the national projects “Demography”, “Health Care”, “Education”, “Housing”, “Urban Environment” ".

And this year, Secretary of the Security Council of Russia Nikolai Patrushev announced numerous corruption violations in the implementation of national and federal projects.

Patrushev stated that

“When conducting public procurements by unscrupulous officials, fraudulent schemes are widely used to transfer contracts to organizations affiliated with them.”

The Security Council Secretary noted that they steal most of all in the national projects “Housing and Urban Environment”, “Safe and High-Quality Roads”, “Demography”, “Education”, “Culture”, “Health Care”.

What is the result?

It turns out that the idea is good, but the execution ... But there is no execution.

What is the problem?

Indeed, it turns out very strange nationwide. Plans are being made, approved, decrees signed and ... and not executed. Then the money is stolen, and so on.

What, again, the king is good, the boyars are bad?

But no, not everything is as simple as it seems at first glance.

The biggest problem is that Putin is a liberal. Yes, that’s it. The implementation of liberal reforms and development programs of Russia is hindered by liberalism!

At first glance it looks crazy. However, in a country like Russia, this is not possible. And here is what we have today, and generally easily.

Judge for yourself.

The prosecutor general’s office gives 2,5 thousand violations of the law. This is at least 2,5 thousand guilty. And since there could have been a group, and by prior conspiracy ... Well, even in the minimum configuration, 2,5 thousand cases.

Question: where are they? Where are the high-profile investigations, landings, huge fines?

Silence in an abandoned cemetery ...

And now we make an excursion to history.

Knowledgeable readers, what would Comrade Stalin do with these 2,5 thousand? Well, yes, indicative cases of embezzlement and completely unreasonable executions. And those who were lucky would go to build another important channel and reeducate. But Stalin was a communist to the core.

When Khrushchev also planted. And no worse than under Stalin. At least Nikita Sergeevich has had experience since then - you will admire. But Khrushchev was a communist. Yes, democratized, but a communist.

Brezhnev? Communist. Because he had everything who could not find himself in business, engaged in the construction of BAM and many other objects.

But Putin is a liberal. But the liberals did not accept executions, landings, and all the rest. No, they can imprison them, but for criticizing the authorities, for throwing a plastic cup at the policeman and so on. And for the fact that projects of national importance were disrupted - no, we are not in 1937.



Well, shootings are not necessary. Yes, civilization, development, liberalism.

Herein lies the first of three reasons that things often go awry. Of course, sometimes someone is punished. But so ... without a twinkle. Probably, based on the message "what if it comes in handy?"

Serdyukov came in handy. Yes, and Vasiliev, who served 34 days out of 5 years, is also a good example.

The first reason.

There are no persons responsible for execution - one, and no responsibility for those responsible - two. And for those who fell into the cage - and in general beauty, they are outlawed in the good (for them) sense of the word. For those Russians certainly do not abandon their own. Proved by Serdyukov, proved by Vasilyeva, proved by Chubais, proved by Rogozin.

The law in Russia really allows such twists that sometimes you wonder. You don’t have to go far for examples. The killer who killed the man while drunk and smeared with drugs is under house arrest. And the person who is suspected of not understanding that the foundation of the workshop gives the sediment, the arrest is serving in jail.

And such examples are just wagons. But their essence boils down to one thing: the legal system is not only imperfect, but also allows its manipulation in the right direction.

The second reason.

We talked about her more than once. Personnel hunger and ruined social elevators. If in TOY Russia the appearance at the top of immigrants from the people, both positive (Lomonosov) and negative (Rasputin), was at least theoretically, but possible, today excuse me.

A clearly built system simply rejects everything that does not belong to it. And today you can see the former presidential guard in the chair of the minister or governor, but alas, the man from the side. The same applies to the judicial system and the lawmaking.

And here it is worth recognizing that the modern system of the vertical of power in Russia was not brought by the Martians or the Americans. This is a domestic development, whatever one may say. And do not blame Yeltsin, with him that mess was still in the appointments. And now everything is quite stable, the same clip is spinning around the ministries and departments. Yesterday there was a minister - today is the governor. There was a deputy minister - he became a minister. And so you can twist to infinity.

And it will spin. Because the system is quite durable and does not allow external influences. Only for their own, so to speak. But the efficiency is minimal, because it uses only an approved resource.

And if problems with the law can still be somehow shoved to their creators (consider the State Duma), then this architecture of power is the result of 20 years of work of Putin and his team.

Well, in fact, it’s not for Obama to blame that this is the case with us ...

And finally, the third reason. Model.

Yes, no matter how strange it may look, but - a model. It is clear that it is not Soviet. Everything Soviet was definitely bad, galoshes were not edible, blue hens and so on. But it was necessary to take some model to follow. Like TU Constitution, which the Americans copied.

They took the American one. But with our amendments. And now it is more like a model in tsarist Russia. On the one hand, all leaders are taken from "their" circle, on the other hand, this circle is very, very limited. "New nobles", anyway.

Another question is that their effectiveness, to put it mildly, is low. An example is our health care.

M. Zurabov (2004-2007). By the way, a cybernetics economist by education. The father of the monetization of medical services, who left after the arrest of almost the entire MHIF management, which he oversaw, on charges of varying severity. After that, Zurabov became the ambassador of Russia to Ukraine (2009-2016). It worked so efficiently that ... no, you shouldn’t even talk about it.

T. Golikova. Minister from 2007 to 2012. Economist. This Golikova combined the basic and insurance parts of the pension, replaced the unified social tax (UST) with insurance contributions, then returned the UST and at the same time increased it from 26 to 34%. Then there was work in the Accounts Chamber (2013-2018). Today - Deputy Prime Minister for Social Policy.

V. Skvortsova. Minister from 2012 to 2020. Doctor. She is famous for having the maximum anti-rating (4%) for her “optimization programs”, in accordance with which hundreds of feldsher-obstetric centers, hospitals and clinics were closed. Now he commands FMBA, a biomedical agency about which the most ominous rumors are creeping.

As you see, all the people from the "cage", no one was left without a place, with Zurabov it’s not clear where he is now. But did we feel good in terms of medicine? Yes, just great, and the pandemic only confirmed it.

And so in everything. Without exception. And most importantly - no responsibility for what has been done or not done.

It comes to insanity, only after another angry shout of the president, local officials start working, and not engage in outright foolishness such as per-second tariffing for ambulance teams working with infected people.

This is Putin’s main “merit”, and the main problem that he is already forced to fight personally today. The system of power vertical that he created, which simply does not want to work. Which you need to scare, kick, direct and so on. But officials should not be fired, imprisoned or confiscated.

Yes, by the way, about embezzlers.

It would be effective if the property of a thief, and in no other way the person who has millions and billions of rubles in the garage, cannot be called, would be seized.

Moreover, not only what was thief was seized, but also a super-lucky wife (business woman) and very gifted children. Everyone has.

But no, this would obviously violate certain rules of the game, which we are not aware of. And so Putin endlessly shuffles a very small deck of participants, simply moving them from one place to another.

It does not bring benefits.

So in the end we got such a power that does not want to work as expected, disrupts the execution of the president’s projects and so on. Plus, frankly brazenly stealing wherever possible.

And no responsibility for that.

And the farther, the greater the tale that the king is good and the boyars are bad, they were becoming status for me. I begin to believe that this is so. Spoils the big picture only the complete reluctance of the king to part with these boyars. The “resignation" of the government this year is the best confirmation of this.

We really expected a lot. But in the end, the resignation did not bring us anything. Yes, several of the most unpopular ministers led by the prime minister were fired. And what, someone left overboard? No, not a single one. Everyone found a place.

And it seemed that here he was, Putin’s last term. You can spit on the opinions of everyone around and do something that will really improve the lives of Russians. But it turned out that the deadline was by no means the last, the boyars were still the same, nothing could be done with them.

Liberalism in all its glory. Let me remind you that liberalism is a political and economic trend proclaiming the inviolability of human rights and personal freedoms.

It is a pity that the circle of liberals, for whom all this is true, is limited by the very circle of "clip".

But while liberal laws are valid for a narrow circle of associates, one should not even talk about any “jerks forward and up”. Everything will remain in the same place where it was. Because we have not the year 1937.

I am really sorry that the projects of Putin and his developers, which he, as president, submitted for consideration and implementation, are really being destroyed by those whom Putin put into power. Bees versus honey, system versus developer.

And in the end, we are in a very strange position. The country has developed and is trying to implement projects that should improve our lives. As a result, we do not see this improvement, but we observe a constant increase in prices for everything, inflation and other pleasures.

And - most importantly - complete impunity for those who are to blame.

How can one not believe that liberalism is to blame for everything?
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  1. Far B
    Far B 18 June 2020 05: 39 New
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    Roman, why is the legal system? She allowed Putin to reset to zero, in violation of the Constitution. Here, a certain person at the forum seriously believed that amendments to the Constitution are needed to be implemented, they say, they are not implemented in the form of laws (and, apparently, this situation seems normal for this person). Putinism, I have already said, leads Russia to the state of a banana republic in its classical sense. Actually, already brought.
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 05: 45 New
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      fool
      Good "banana republic", - with atomic technology, space program, etc.
      1. Far B
        Far B 18 June 2020 05: 49 New
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        Yes, programs, at least cosmic, at least universal, I'll draw you right on my knee right now. How about the performance? And as for the rest - well, at least look in the dictionary for the definition of "banana republic"
        1. Ded_Mazay
          Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 05: 53 New
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          Quote: Far In
          And as for the rest - well, at least look in the dictionary for the definition of "banana republic"

          Did you drop in yourself?
          I quote:
          Banana Republic is a term used to refer to Latin American countries in which political instability was present along with dependence on limited agricultural production.

          We have "dependence on limited agricultural production" or what?
          1. Far B
            Far B 18 June 2020 05: 59 New
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            The use of the term in the initial literal sense - this fully characterizes you, yes. In this case, the “banana republic”, as it were, has no right to export anything at all except bananas. If it exports coffee, then it is exclusively a "coffee republic", etc. so galleries? Do not distort, with adults this trick does not work
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 18 June 2020 12: 36 New
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              Colleague hi
              All this fuss with terms and sticking of "liberal" labels is explained simply nowhere. What does a crook do when threatened with exposure? Correctly! Shouting: "Hold the thief!"
            2. Ded_Mazay
              Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 16: 26 New
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              Quote: Far In
              The use of the term in the initial literal sense - this fully characterizes you, yes.

              And in what sense then to use it? Portable with an expansive interpretation? Sorry, but then this is not a term, but "pulling an owl is not a globe."
              Moreover, do you yourself, in your first post, directly refer to its "classical meaning"
              Quote: Far In
              to the state of the banana republic in its classical sense.
              , and then to the dictionary:
              Quote: Far In
              at least look in the dictionary about the definition of "banana republic"

              I gave you the "classic meaning" of a banana republic.
              But you didn’t like it with something and as a result we see a wonderful phrase:
              Quote: Far In
              Do not distort, with adults this trick does not work

              So then, as a result, I distort, "adult" are you ours?

              And in general, how does your language turn to use such derogatory words in relation to your country?
            3. alecsis69
              alecsis69 19 June 2020 19: 40 New
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              But the author of the article does not interfere with the use of the term liberalism in its original meaning, as it is written in the philosophical dictionary, although it should be clear that those who are now called "liberals" actually have nothing to do with the original meaning of this word. The modern "liberal" is a supporter of the unlimited power of transnational bankers led by the Fed.
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 21 June 2020 13: 35 New
                +1
                They planted it under Brezhnev? Because he was a communist to the marrow of bones? What about, Minister of Internal Affairs Shchelokova? How about Churbanov? How about the Uzbek case?
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 18 June 2020 07: 33 New
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            "dependence on limited agricultural production"
            we are dependent on unlimited oil and gas production. And all atomic technologies are artifacts inherited from the "ancient". That's just no one knows how to use.
            1. EvilLion
              EvilLion 18 June 2020 08: 45 New
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              Are you aware that RosAtom is currently a monopolist in its market? Although this is of no interest to anyone, all these closed nuclear cycles and other technologies that require trillions of investments. Now, when some bullshit happens, it’s yes, just an occasion to complain, how bad it is.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 18 June 2020 08: 51 New
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                Quote: EvilLion
                Although this is of no interest to anyone, all these closed nuclear cycles and other technologies that require trillions of investments.

                Why, interesting. It is also interesting why, having mentioned trillion investments, you were silent about the profits of this industry. And what a simple citizen of Russia has from these profits.
                1. EvilLion
                  EvilLion 18 June 2020 08: 54 New
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                  For example, what you now consume electricity to write all this, as well as a bunch of taxes from enterprises.

                  Although what am I talking about. Indeed, if they don’t give you money personally, it means that everything was stolen.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 18 June 2020 08: 56 New
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                    I get electricity from the CHP, where they heat it with gas and fuel oil. Although near the hydroelectric power station, but the electricity from it goes to Moscow. wink
                    1. cradle
                      cradle 18 June 2020 10: 18 New
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                      Cho, straight to Moscow ... bypassing the general power system? Well, you give brother!
                      1. EvilLion
                        EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 42 New
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                        Well, at least he didn’t say "from the outlet."
                      2. Campanella
                        Campanella 18 June 2020 20: 07 New
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                        Do we have a power system? Didn’t Chubais pull the globe with Putin’s consent?
                      3. Nick
                        Nick 20 June 2020 03: 00 New
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                        Quote: Campanella
                        Do we have a power system? Didn’t Chubais pull the globe with Putin’s consent?

                        But essentially?
                      4. Campanella
                        Campanella 20 June 2020 13: 00 New
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                        There was a typo.
                        With a light hand, Chubais has no power system. There are a lot of all kinds of companies rather clumsily interconnected with each other, which, contrary to the assurances of Chubais, systematically raise prices for it without doing anything for its development.
                      5. Nick
                        Nick 20 June 2020 13: 35 New
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                        Quote: Campanella
                        With a light hand, Chubais has no power system.

                        ?! belay To fill the gaps in your knowledge: The Unified Energy System of Russia (UES of Russia) consists of 71 regional energy systems, which, in turn, form 7 integrated energy systems: East, Siberia, Urals, Middle Volga, South, Center and North-West. All power systems are connected by inter-system high-voltage power lines with a voltage of 220-500 kV and higher and operate in synchronous mode (in parallel).
                        The electric power complex of the UES of Russia includes 846 power plants with a capacity of over 5 MW each. As of January 1, 2020, the total installed capacity of power plants of the UES of Russia amounted to 246 342,45 MW.
                      6. Campanella
                        Campanella 20 June 2020 14: 31 New
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                        Cool, enlightened!
                        I can say that in this powerful glue system, you have so colorfully described the voltage of a consumer walking from 150 volts and above, connecting costs a lot of money and there is not enough power. Just recall the Moscow blackout, when there was no where to pump electricity from.
                        You can write a lot of beautiful words, but in reality everything is much more prosaic and darker.
                        So you can shake your agitation elsewhere.
                      7. cradle
                        cradle 22 June 2020 01: 41 New
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                        Once every three years you can connect for 500 rubles. So shake it with your anti-hitch.
                      8. Nick
                        Nick 22 June 2020 12: 04 New
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                        Quote: Campanella
                        connecting costs a lot of money and there is not enough capacity. Just recall the Moscow Blackout, when there was no where to pump electricity from.

                        You recalled a situation a decade ago, when the abnormal heat disrupted the power system. Well, this problem was quickly eliminated precisely thanks to the presence of the UES of Russia, I had a friend exactly at the Mosenergo control center then, and I know the situation no worse than you. As for the amount of electricity generated, it is now generated in the Russian Federation more than in the RSFSR. In the RSFSR, the record for power generation fell on 1990 and amounted to 1,082 trillion kWh in Russia, 1,092 trillion kWh in 2017. The capacity of all power plants in the RSFSR in 1990 amounted to 213 million kW, the same capacity was in 2000, and in 2019 the total capacity of the UES of Russia amounted to 246,34 million kW.
                        Growth is obvious.
                      9. Campanella
                        Campanella 23 June 2020 00: 39 New
                        0
                        the heat put only one Anomalous as far as I remember the substation, and that as a result laid the entire energy system of Moscow. Which is quite natural when dividing the networks according to Chubais. Kinky still struggled with Chubais’s innovative ideas ... But Putin apparently decided to reform.
                        Contrary to the assurances of the same Chubais, the price of electricity has never fallen. And only lazy ones do not write about the quality of Russian electric networks.
                        As for the blackout, the whole problem was precisely in the destruction of a single energy system, and therefore could not organize the flow of energy for Moscow.
            2. cradle
              cradle 22 June 2020 01: 39 New
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              for those who are especially unseeing = there is ... contrary to Chubais. And the redhead has not been engaged in energy for a long time, if that.
            3. Campanella
              Campanella 23 June 2020 12: 34 New
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              The Moor did his work ... But it was Chubais who was engaged in privatization, it was he who reformed the RA RAO.
        2. Nick
          Nick 20 June 2020 02: 54 New
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          Quote: besik
          Cho, straight to Moscow ... bypassing the general power system? Well, you give brother!

          Yes, he is generally far from everything that balabolit about. The main thing for him is to crow "it is lost, to grab people" and get his 30 pieces of silver for it. As well as the author of the above article.
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    2. alecsis69
      alecsis69 19 June 2020 19: 43 New
      +4
      Actually, electricity goes into a single energy system even with the union built. Although they tried to rob her, but to the end, as I understand it, they could not.
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 16: 45 New
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    Quote: Ingvar 72
    And what a simple citizen of Russia has from these profits.

    And why is it that a “simple citizen of Russia” should have something from these profits if he did not participate in their creation? What is this craving for a freebie?
    1. Reklastik
      Reklastik 18 June 2020 18: 35 New
      +8
      And how do you determine the degree of participation of ordinary citizens in the life of the country? And who invites citizens to participate in these profits? Are you sure that the state and high environmentalists are waiting for ordinary citizens to participate with open arms? In the creation and distribution of profits? On what conditions and on what roles?
      1. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 18: 41 New
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        Quote: Reklastik
        And how do you determine the degree of participation of ordinary citizens in the life of the country? And who invites citizens to participate in these profits? Are you sure that the state and high environmentalists are waiting for ordinary citizens to participate with open arms? In the creation and distribution of profits? On what conditions and on what roles?

        What are you talking about now?
        We are talking about the fact that Ingvar 72 apparently wants a share of the dewy:
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        It is also interesting why, having mentioned trillion investments, you were silent about the profits of this industry. And what a simple citizen of Russia has from these profits.

        What side here
        Quote: Reklastik
        degree of participation of ordinary citizens in the life of the country
        - unclear. Just like everything else you wrote.
        1. Reklastik
          Reklastik 18 June 2020 18: 59 New
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          Quote: Ded_Mazay
          And why is it that a “simple citizen of Russia” should have something from these profits if he did not participate in their creation? What is this craving for a freebie?

          Do you forget what you wrote? ))) I asked how you determine the participation of an ordinary citizen in creating profit ... Rosatom or in some other state projects. Are you sure that each of us who already works, or worked and now retired, did not participate in one way or another in creating these profits, directly or indirectly? What does the "craving for free"? I realized that you do not want to understand the question - there is apparently nothing to answer)
        2. Ded_Mazay
          Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 20: 17 New
          -14
          If your comment didn’t have a “confusion” of wording:
          Quote: Reklastik
          And how do you determine the degree of participation of ordinary citizens in the life of the country?
          and questions asked at the wrong address:
          Quote: Reklastik
          And who invites citizens to participate in these profits? Are you sure that the state and high environmentalists are waiting for ordinary citizens to participate with open arms? In the creation and distribution of profits? On what conditions and on what roles

          then you would get an answer much earlier.
          As for
          Quote: Reklastik
          how do you determine the participation of a simple citizen in creating profit ...
          that is, such a thing is called an “employment contract” and another one is called a “civil contract”. Here they basically determine the form and nature of the participation of an individual in a particular economic activity, including creating the same profit, and relying on this remuneration.
          And as for ideas like:
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And what a simple citizen of Russia has from these profits.
          without any clarification of the grounds for obtaining something "from these profits" then this is called "craving for freebies."
        3. Reklastik
          Reklastik 19 June 2020 06: 39 New
          0
          You would be in the Middle Ages, there the scholastic power developed. Without any connection with reality.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 18 June 2020 20: 09 New
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    Well you Mazay! And what was this shobla of billionaires who sawed profitable chunks of the former Soviet economy related? Are you pretending to be a hose?
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 20: 22 New
      -16
      Suggest to take an example from them? In vain.
      Rosatom, if my memory serves me, is in state property and profits from it should go to the budget. And from there to the arrangement of the country.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 18 June 2020 20: 30 New
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        We have the same rights to dividends from the entire Soviet as the heirs. But for some reason, you and Putin decided differently for the whole people .... and you continue to decide without actually having the right to do so.
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      3. cradle
        cradle 22 June 2020 01: 47 New
        0
        Putin didn’t decide, but the people, silently agreeing with the slaughter of their own country. No need to blame on GDP. He was not close to power in 1991.
      4. Campanella
        Campanella 23 June 2020 00: 42 New
        0
        Oh yeah! The people silently decided ...
        Come up with a newer story, Putin repeats it endlessly.
        He would take a wise guy and hold a referendum, and then he would talk about tacit consent.
      5. cradle
        cradle 23 June 2020 01: 39 New
        -1
        there will be a referendum on July 1. At the request of the workers.
  • Overlock
    Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 06 New
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    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    with what fright does a “simple citizen of Russia” have to have something from these profits if he did not participate in their creation?

    Do you want to say that the nouveau riche created everything with their own hands? Or, maybe, after all, they grabbed the former Soviet, which ALL created?
    Maybe you believe your idol, who said that the USSR produced nothing but galoshes?
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 19 June 2020 06: 09 New
      -6
      What do nouveaux riches have to do with state corporations Rosatom (non-profit organization) ??? What prevented you from reading the previous comments in order to understand the subject of the dispute before writing something?
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 19 June 2020 10: 49 New
        +6
        Do you even understand what a state corporation is? Most of the enterprises of the "state corporation" Rosatom are joint-stock companies, which means that profits are distributed to all wealthy shareholders and some part goes to the state. So do not write nonsense using the sacred "state corporation"!
      2. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 19 June 2020 16: 00 New
        -3
        Hmm ....
        Here are examples of joint-stock companies from Rosatom:
        JSC Atomenergoprom
        94,449% of ordinary shares - Rosatom
        5,551% of ordinary shares - of the Russian Federation (represented by the Ministry of Finance).
        NPK Dedal JSC
        100% of shares - Atomenergoprom OJSC
        JSC Greatom is a subsidiary of Atomenergoprom OJSC (100%)
        JSC Techsnabexport - is part of Atomenergoprom
        NovaVind JSC - the founder of Atomenergoprom (100%)
        etc.
        .
        Well, here are some of the rich affiliates among AOshek’s members of Rosatom.
      3. Campanella
        Campanella 19 June 2020 21: 08 New
        +2
        Very funny! To Putin’s question to Sechin why you have such high salaries for managers in a state corporation, he answered him that they say foreign specialists with considerable salaries work in the team, therefore they have to pay a lot for their own.
        So the management of these with the permission of state corporations is the rich.
        Rot will always find where to raise money, plus the fact that AOs are checked formally, this is not FSUE for you. I think they were transferred to AO to make it easier to swipe.
        Otherwise, what's the point in AO if there is one shareholder.
        You should be ashamed to cover the thief!
      4. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 19 June 2020 22: 08 New
        -3
        If a person everywhere sees "theft" - this is an occasion to think ...
      5. Reklastik
        Reklastik 19 June 2020 22: 39 New
        +1
        If a person does not doubt anything, like you, for example, this is all the more reason to think. And people think. What can not but rejoice. "Question everything."
      6. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 20 June 2020 06: 16 New
        -1
        There is a “doubt” -
        mental state or state of mind in which abstinence from definitive judgment, or / and bifurcation (tripling, etc.) of its formation, due to the inability of consciousness to draw a discrete, unambiguous conclusion.

        And there is a "prejudice" -
        available from the beginning, in advance, biased (usually negative) opinion, attitude towards someone, something.

      7. Reklastik
        Reklastik 21 June 2020 11: 23 New
        0
        I see, you are a great master of definitions, concepts ... Give me a comprehensive, most accurate, and generally accepted definition of "mental state", "state of mind", "mind", "abstinence from a definitive judgment", "finally definite judgment" . And what is prejudice based on? Well, I say - you need to be a scholastic. Engage in hermeneutics. But this is either from another area or from another time. You there))) Or did you decide here to do, in front of everyone's eyes, the construction of the theory by the deductive axiomatic method? laughing
      8. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 21 June 2020 18: 29 New
        -2
        For that, as I look, the "big master" is to turn the interlocutor's words to the wrong side.
        Take, for example, how cleverly with your light hand, a clearly prejudiced interlocutor becomes “doubters”, and one who does not agree with him, just because of doubts about the validity of his interlocutor, his position is a kind of “gullible simpletons” .
        And while demonstrating such skillful crocheting, you still say something about scholasticism ...
      9. Reklastik
        Reklastik 21 June 2020 22: 39 New
        0
        Well, it’s you who are completely inconsistent and touchy immensely ... Okay ... I didn’t twist anything, just asked you to go to the limit in your reasoning, well, you got to the point of absurdity. Actually, they did not answer essentially. I hope you really do not work at Rosatom.
  • Campanella
    Campanella 20 June 2020 12: 55 New
    -1
    I see you generally badly when a person sees more of what they are trying to show him. No need to engage in moralizing and inappropriate hints, I try to write about things about which I have an idea.
    Formally, we live according to the constitution and laws based on it, but in life it turns out that the basic law is not always and not always implemented by all. Does this surprise you? Or do you take this to oddities too?
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  • Reklastik
    Reklastik 21 June 2020 11: 33 New
    0
    The fact of the matter is that formal logic is applicable to life and the analysis of its phenomena is very small. And to focus exclusively on her is a very strange approach. And so we do not live according to the constitution, even formally. I am glad that you are aware of this.
  • cradle
    cradle 22 June 2020 01: 49 New
    0
    well put ... Straight face in his own guano. laughing good
  • tech3030
    tech3030 19 June 2020 11: 33 New
    0
    At least inexpensive electricity.
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 19 June 2020 16: 03 New
      -2
      Inexpensive electricity is good, but what does this have to do with Rosatom's profit?
  • Energetik81
    Energetik81 19 June 2020 12: 13 New
    +4
    And who participated? Under me, all TPPs in the Tver Region passed from the hands of the state to private hands. Moreover, the private owner bought them on a state loan. So without investing and a penny you can make a profit)))
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 19 June 2020 16: 06 New
      -4
      Who worked at Rosatom and participated. And as for your Tver TPPs
      Quote: Ded_Mazay
      How does this relate to Rosatom's profit?
  • Nick
    Nick 20 June 2020 02: 59 New
    +2
    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    And why is it that a “simple citizen of Russia” should have something from these profits if he did not participate in their creation? What is this craving for a freebie?

    In fact, citizens have a lot to do with those same profits. This education, and social programs, and the Army with the police, and infrastructure, and medicine, and much more. You can’t list everything ...
    1. Ded_Mazay
      Ded_Mazay 20 June 2020 05: 29 New
      -1
      I agree with you, but most likely, this is somewhat not what Ingvar 72 had in mind ...
      1. Nick
        Nick 20 June 2020 05: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Ded_Mazay
        I agree with you, but most likely, this is somewhat not what Ingvar 72 had in mind ...

        Well yes. Most likely he didn’t mean what he meant. Freeloaders to the wall! soldier
  • cradle
    cradle 22 June 2020 01: 45 New
    -2
    wet dreams SOMETHING to fuck for no reason .... just like that. You might think that during the USSR they had something. Silently injected. And the loss at Tyran can tryndet all get along and no cho will not be for it. Democracy is the same.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 18 June 2020 09: 22 New
    42
    Are you aware that RosAtom is currently a monopolist in its market?
    ... And this makes electricity in the domestic market cheaper every day ... laughing
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 18 June 2020 12: 43 New
      12
      ... And this makes electricity in the domestic market cheaper every day ...

      Reason politically, colleague! lol
      Fragment from the movie "Prisoner of the Caucasus" (1966)
  • Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 18 June 2020 09: 31 New
    39
    Quote: EvilLion
    Are you aware that RosAtom is currently a monopolist in its market?

    Rosatom receives trillions of loans, interest-free. Judging by the text of the treaties, for example with the Turks, some of them will also be irrevocable. Rosatom operates on the principle that it is the customer, the main thing for me is to use the money, and there even though the grass does not grow. In such conditions, you can even build power plants, even grow turnips, at least rummage with paintings of abstract artists, sell snow generators to Eskimos. If you are not completely inadequate, then you will become a monopolist in almost any market.
    Why is Rosatom quite clear, but to the country as a whole .... There are already difficulties with understanding.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 43 New
      -32
      So tell me, they don’t give you 10 thousand rubles a month for nothing. They stole everything. Personally with you.
      1. tagil
        tagil 18 June 2020 15: 38 New
        -18
        You see how this milkmaid from Moscow popularly explained everything about Rosatom (the village education is neither a khukh-mukhra to you), you still didn’t talk about the army and oil with her, she would have simply struck you with her separator.
        So tell me, they don’t give you 10 thousand rubles a month for nothing. They stole everything. Personally with you.
        This Sha-la-la-la "laborer" in Moscow works, so she cares that she has to pay for her work and not Rosatom.
  • smart ass
    smart ass 19 June 2020 19: 51 New
    +2
    In this case, the Russian Federation should have cheap energy and low production costs, by GDP should have overtaken China 10 years ago
  • Insurgent
    Insurgent 18 June 2020 08: 59 New
    +8
    Yes, in one of the previous materials, we touched on the topic of the fact that in our country there are liberals, and there are liberals. Some are Putin and his team, that is, guardians of the future of Russia, the second is the Dark Lord Navalny and someone else.


    The Dark Lord, like the shadow of the Darkest?
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 18 June 2020 09: 25 New
      16
      The Dark Lord, like the shadow of the Darkest?
      ...No, smile just horseradish, radish is not sweeter .. By the way, there is more sugar in horseradish than in radish .. smile
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 18 June 2020 09: 36 New
        +9
        Quote: parusnik
        ... No, just horseradish, radish is not sweeter ..

        Not quite one hell no ... Rather pop Gapon of our time ...
        1. Parabelum
          Parabelum 18 June 2020 18: 37 New
          -18
          That's right. We all realized that Skomorokhov was drowning for Navalny. But Navalny doesn’t pull on the Lord (who called him that?), But Gaponchik is a normal definition.
          1. kin
            kin 18 June 2020 20: 34 New
            +5
            Who about what, and lousy about the bath.
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 18 June 2020 09: 14 New
    20
    Quote: Gardamir
    And all atomic technologies are artifacts inherited from the "ancient". That's just no one knows how to use.

    In response to you, uryayu-skakuasy sechas lay out doneunas and netanalagaf in the world.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 18 June 2020 12: 54 New
      11
      In response to you, uryayu-skakuasy sechas lay out doneunas and netanalagaf in the world

      Apparently, the agitation even "with a beard" is over. Recently, on a "starvation diet", punctuation marks have been eating up. The coolest thing is when the bourgeois henchmen turn to each other.

      The horse is dead - get off! (C) Ancient Native American saying
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 18 June 2020 13: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: lexus
        Apparently, the agitation even "with a beard" is over. Recently, on a "starvation diet", punctuation marks have been eating up. The coolest thing is when the bourgeois henchmen turn to each other.

        Greetings, Comrade! hi Do not pay attention to "whipping bullshit for a blue flower" laughing Yesterday, here’s the general-dutik "schizo" as he tried, accused everyone of the "collective farm" and the "minuses" and that his "sect" is being insulted around wassat
        But I was not too lazy and looked at the beginning of the “battle” he had 247 rating points, and in the morning 260 belay
        What a delight laughing Tanunafik such adebdof "cross and tac toe" neither god a candle nor a damn poker laughing rzhunemagu)))))
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 18 June 2020 13: 30 New
          +6
          at the beginning of the “battle” he had 247 rating points, and in the morning 260

          I had a chance yesterday to step into their "heap", so they flew into a cloud and dined for 3 thousand tugriks. And this one, as you rightly called it, even resorted to the prompter's services. They promised me to figure out how the “headphone” would be free. laughing laughing laughing

          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 18 June 2020 13: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: lexus
            I had a chance yesterday to step into their "heap", so they flew into a cloud and dined for 3 thousand tugriks. And this one, as you rightly called it, even resorted to the prompter's services. They promised me to figure out how the “headphone” would be free.

            Some kind of kindergarten, but apparently adult uncles request
    2. CSKA
      CSKA 18 June 2020 16: 10 New
      -16
      Quote: Malyuta
      In response to you, uryayu-skakuasy sechas lay out doneunas and netanalagaf in the world.

      laughing Well, we have something to lay out, but you have nothing. You are only a little kid and capable of writing a couple of generalized lines with criticism to write.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: CSKA
        Well, we have something to lay out

        we ask ... lay out ....
        1. CSKA
          CSKA 19 June 2020 14: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Overlock
          we ask ... lay out ...

          Is it hard for you to visit us? there everything is painted for you every month.
  • flicker
    flicker 18 June 2020 16: 19 New
    -12
    And all atomic technologies are artifacts inherited from the "ancient"
    From the "ancient ukrov" or what?
  • Ded_Mazay
    Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 16: 49 New
    -9
    Quote: Gardamir
    And all atomic technologies are artifacts inherited from the "ancient". That's just no one knows how to use.

    What are you, right? lol
    Read at your leisure: https://topwar.ru/136975-rossiyskie-reaktory-buduschego-obretayut-realnost.html
  • kig
    kig 18 June 2020 10: 46 New
    23
    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    We have "dependence on limited agricultural production" or what?

    We have an oil and gas republic. The budget of a country calling itself a superpower will depend on the price of a barrel in the world market.
    1. snake
      snake 18 June 2020 13: 43 New
      +9
      Quote: kig
      We have an oil and gas republic.

      Republic..? Oil and gas ..?
      In power, the "king" with the boyars is preparing for constitutional immortality, and the price of the 95th has broken the historical maximum:
      Stock prices for gas updated historic high
      https://www.rbc.ru/economics/17/06/2020/5eea10f79a79472821e4840e?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
      So that. not the oil and gas republic, but the kingdom of the curves ...
    2. flicker
      flicker 18 June 2020 16: 24 New
      -10
      The budget of a country calling itself a superpower will depend on the price of a barrel in the world market.

      I will surprise you, but the budget of any country depends on something. bully
      The entire world economy is interconnected vessels.
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 18 June 2020 07: 43 New
    -25
    Quote: Far In
    I'll draw you right on my knee right now


    The USA has been drawing hypersound for how many years, but the picture still doesn’t work out, just like the engine replaces the Russian RD-180.
    1. vic02
      vic02 18 June 2020 07: 51 New
      37
      USA won how many years hypersound draw
      If we start comparing the United States and the current Russian Federation in full, rather than grabbing individual facts in a spherical vacuum, the Russian Federation will look very poor.
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 08: 01 New
        -15
        Quote: vic02
        If you start comparing the United States and the current Russian Federation in full


        for an objective comparison, the United States would have to endure, like Russia, the collapse of the state in 1917 and 1991, its analogue of the 90s, the whole country in ruins in the 1940s, the civil war in the 20s. And they have for the entire 20- century except the great great depression no shocks + dollar world currency since the 1940s.
        Drop them to the share of what fell to us they would no longer exist.
        1. Far B
          Far B 18 June 2020 08: 46 New
          25
          Sorry, but you began to compare - and suddenly, it turns out, the comparison is not objective ... you are a strange character
          1. cradle
            cradle 18 June 2020 10: 28 New
            0
            he wanted to say disproportionately ... not strange
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 38 New
            -9
            Quote: Far In
            comparison is not objective ...


            Of course not objectively. If the United States fell to the hundredth part of the tests that fell to the share of Russia, then they would have been gone for a long time.
            So to compare the United States which since independence at the end of the 18th century developed in greenhouse conditions and Russia every day fighting for existence against enemies from all sides, can only be a person who does not know history.
            1. Far B
              Far B 18 June 2020 10: 50 New
              10
              I agree that this comparison cannot be made. I don’t understand why you suddenly began to compare, and then said that you can’t compare? What the hell was it to start?
            2. Overlock
              Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 11 New
              +6
              Quote: lopvlad
              If the United States had a hundredth part of the tests that fell to the share of Russia, then they would have been gone for a long time.

              that's for sure - the Pechenegs and Polovtsy did not torment the USA!
      2. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 17: 02 New
        -9
        Quote: vic02
        If you start comparing the United States and the current Russian Federation in full,

        So let's get started!
        For example, with a public debt. Or from a phenomenon like "government shutdown" when the congress failed to agree to increase it. Or from street protests when a crowd of “activists” with LGBT flags put cops on their knees. Or you can start by counting the number of closed enterprises of the so-called "rust belt", etc. So where do we start "compare in full"?
        1. vic02
          vic02 19 June 2020 09: 02 New
          +1
          So let's get started!
          Your training manuals now only make people laugh. I will even help you. The head of Roskosmos earns 2 times more than the head of NASA, though engineers are poor in comparison with him, but this is a trifle, is not it?
          1. Ded_Mazay
            Ded_Mazay 19 June 2020 15: 12 New
            +1
            I see manuals in your picture of the world that occupy some special place ... lol
            Well, okay, this is what they say is your personal "tragedy." But the fact that the USA has such a heap of problems in the background that we never dreamed of is an indisputable fact. And this is still a very big question, who by the end will look "poor" and pale with a thorough system analysis.
    2. Octopus
      Octopus 18 June 2020 08: 40 New
      +2
      According to the EELV program, 2 missiles were created, and not one, so there was no need for Americans to repeat the whole path that Glushko traveled with Energy engines. As for hypersound, the Americans experimented with it a lot in the 60s. It is useless.
      1. cradle
        cradle 18 June 2020 10: 29 New
        -11
        if useless, then cho nervous about the vanguard and dagger? wassat
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 18 June 2020 11: 35 New
          +8
          And was someone nervous? Permanent authors of national interest, a Russian magazine in English?
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 40 New
        -8
        Quote: Octopus
        then the Americans experimented a lot with him back in the 60s. It is useless.


        and they’re still naive, they continue to spend millions and billions of dollars. Or are they so short-sighted and you are a genius? .Moreover, and the Katayans were divorced for useless spending
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 18 June 2020 11: 36 New
          +6
          More likely millions than billions. They generally spend a lot, not always properly.

          What is your question?
    3. Snarkxnumx
      Snarkxnumx 18 June 2020 09: 30 New
      14
      "engine to replace the Russian RD-180." About trampoline do not forget to say. They can make an analogue, but why? If the development of the RD-180 is made with US money .and their rights. And his cost is 2–3 lower than it will be in the USA.
    4. Grading
      Grading 18 June 2020 11: 08 New
      21
      [/ Quote]
      The USA over how many years have painted hypersound and the picture still doesn’t work, as well as the engine to replace the Russian RD-180. [/ Quote]
    5. flicker
      flicker 18 June 2020 16: 28 New
      -11
      The USA won how many years they draw hypersound and the picture still doesn’t work
      they don’t have craftsmen who’ll draw it all on their knees
  • Catfish
    Catfish 18 June 2020 06: 04 New
    +9
    Upper Volta with nuclear missiles, as Margaret Thatcher once defined this country. request
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 June 2020 07: 25 New
      0
      Let’s write modernly then-Burkina Faso with missiles, otherwise the people will climb this Upper Volta to search, but it doesn’t. smile
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 18 June 2020 07: 53 New
        20
        Sergey, yes, no people will get anywhere to look for anything, and you know this very well. The people that the Cape Verde Islands, that the "Pearls" sunk at one time in Penang, are completely up to the bulb. Now leave your house and ask the first person you meet about Upper Volta, or about Penang. If they don’t immediately give in the face for such words, then there is still a pale hope that you can explain something to them. bully
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 18 June 2020 09: 18 New
          21
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Now leave your house and ask the first person you meet about Upper Volta, or about Penang. If they don’t immediately give in the face for such words, then there is still a pale hope that you can explain something to them

          That is how the Colleague is afraid that having left the current power at the helm, soon the inhabitants will argue that the earth is flat, firmly standing on elephants and turtles, and rockets are beating against the firmament. Obscurantism...
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 18 June 2020 10: 53 New
            18
            I would have this power, from my hips to a fan, with children and household. From a mug like Peskov’s, I have unprovoked vomiting. On the streets, the Black Muzzles with their Muslim concepts are already beginning to get out even in our village. There can only be one way out, about this Ostap once told the old man Hvorobiev. I do not want to repeat myself.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 18 June 2020 11: 16 New
              +6
              Quote: Sea Cat
              I would have this power, from my hips to a fan, with children and household.

              Well said! I support! good
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 18 June 2020 11: 29 New
                11
                We should all get together somehow. And then all fingers are spread apart. Need a fist.
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 18 June 2020 11: 44 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Catfish (

                  Unfortunately, we are scattered throughout our vast from Vladik yes Kliningrad, but the most important thing for everyone to understand is that he is not the only one who thinks so, and electronic communication exists. drinks
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 18 June 2020 11: 48 New
                    13
                    They cannot cut off this connection yet.
                    And I imagine how it rages in the crotch. No matter how they wash their underpants, and the stench from them goes not only across Russia.
                  2. Malyuta
                    Malyuta 18 June 2020 11: 52 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    They cannot cut off this connection yet.
                    And I imagine how it rages in the crotch. No matter how they wash their underpants, and the stench from them goes not only across Russia.

                    Of course he podglaraet. I here rzhunemagu, as Rospazor forbade "cart" laughing Now, the Duma thinks the opposite law, allow the "cart" wassat . One word, clowns.
                  3. Lexus
                    Lexus 18 June 2020 13: 19 New
                    +7
                    Now, the Duma thinks the opposite law, allow the "cart"

                    All this resembles a joke about a stewardess, who survived the crash pilots periodically dug and dug out of "need." laughing
                    But, by the way, you should always be aware of where “these” are pulling the country and us into the past, at the time of the “organ”, because the meaning of all their efforts for themselves can be reduced to two well-known short phrases: “I will not tolerate!” and "I'll bust!"
        2. snake
          snake 18 June 2020 14: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: Sea Cat
          with their Muslim concepts

          It's only the beginning...
          Russia will allocate Tajikistan more than $ 20 million for school meals
          https://www.rosbalt.ru/world/2020/06/16/1849078.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
          Whose interests does power express?
          Recall, according to a February study by Delivery Club and Aventica, about 24% of Russian schoolchildren are not happy with lunch at educational institutions. Of those surveyed, 31% of students complained of hunger during their studies.
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 18 June 2020 10: 56 New
        11
        There is only one means - a machine gun, preferably two, but better the airborne division.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 18 June 2020 13: 46 New
          +6
          There is only one means - a machine gun, preferably two

          Konstantin hi
          “No matter how much the rope is twisted, but the end will be” (C), proverb
          Meaning: vicious behavior, lawlessness, etc., no matter how long it lasts, will be stopped. It is said with confidence that bad deeds, deeds will come to an end.

          The end is likely to be with a "loop".
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 18 June 2020 16: 41 New
            +4
            Alexei, in this context you use a term that causes them intense tension and the urge to inadequacy.
            There is a technical term “console” that can be used in an expanded sense, but their education does not have enough to understand this.
  • Avior
    Avior 18 June 2020 08: 08 New
    +1
    I have this personal memory :)
    I knew about Upper Volta back in school, but all connection with the atlas of the world then was only through stamps in kiosks of Soyuzpechat, African countries had beautiful postal blocks, then they collected a lot, of course, it was of great value, but otherwise it was a distant world with which it was possible to communicate only except on a collective radio station in STK DOSAAF, there was a powerful amplifier and a good antenna for long-distance communications, such a window into the world, as the Internet is now. :)
    And here we go to a institute with a friend, and there students are a dime a dozen.
    We meet one such healthy, coal-black Negro, as in an old film about how the gods went crazy, they chased each other there with the Cuban, and asked what was their name.
    In response, he put us in a stupor - Cabor Bi Burkina Faso. :))
    So guess what his name is, what his name is, and what kind of country that is not in any atlas :)))
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 18 June 2020 07: 48 New
    -21
    Quote: Sea Cat
    as Margaret Thatcher once defined this country. request


    Is this the same Thatcher from the collapsed into the distant 40s British Empire to the level of a banana republic without rockets now being caught by the United States?
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 18 June 2020 08: 05 New
      25
      Yah? And who rules the entire banking system from the city? I would also put Doenitz a bottle if their banking system collapsed with the British Navy. However, whatever tryndi, but horseradish drawbar, unfortunately. So we have a banana, and they have a banana. You brother, Akello, missed again. I sympathize with you, and, in general, on your side. Nobody forbids us to dream.
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 24 New
        -17
        Quote: Sea Cat
        if their banking system collapsed with the British fleet.


        and it collapsed. A pound from the world's reserve currency to the British currency. From an empire over which the sun did not set to the US six. The value of the pound to the dollar is constantly decreasing and with the exit from the EU it will go to a sharp peak. The only thing that saves is the Russian oligarchs and others financial thieves store everything stolen in Russia in English banks.

        Quote: Sea Cat
        So we have a banana


        we have a normal one with fundamental science in all areas (only the USA and Russia possess).
        I sympathize with you because constant self-humiliation as a result leads either to life near the garbage can or to life in a camp for immigrants, in which you admire the western country.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 18 June 2020 10: 45 New
          16
          Colleague, find at least a word of admiration from me for the “western country”, although, to be honest, they have something quite good there. Regarding the question of fundamental science and the trash can, let me ask you one question, sorry for the common people: The ordinary, as it were, ordinary people, philistines, just want to live and feed their children, they are not interested in your arguments about "garbage cans and emigration", people just want to live. and they want them not to bother doing this. You can “get paper on it” as much as you like, I have a simple question for you: when was the last time you spoke with people on the street. These are people, and most of them. And, probably, people who are not engaged in "fundamental science" should not be considered simply working cattle. At one time, they missed it tightly.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 18 June 2020 13: 58 New
            +5
            At one time, they missed it tightly.

            What is true is true ... As it later turned out, in order to travel around the head with a Kyle, there is no urgent need for knowledge of “fundamental science”.
          2. flicker
            flicker 18 June 2020 16: 50 New
            -4
            Ordinary, as it were, ordinary people, philistines, just want to live and feed their children, they are not interested ... reasoning
            So let JUST live and feed their children.
            In this case, there is no topic for discussion.
            ---
            But, if they are not allowed to SIMPLY live and feed ... then they will be forced to speculate, so they should get the answer to the question "why they are NOT allowed to just live and feed?"
            ---
            The world has become global - "my hut from the edge" does not save.
            In case of war there will be no rear.
            We’ll have to think together, fight together.
          3. lopvlad
            lopvlad 24 June 2020 11: 59 New
            0
            Quote: Sea Cat
            At one time, they missed it tightly.


            apparently you are talking about a survey in March 2014 when the vast majority of citizens were for the annexation of Crimea and Sevastopol.

            Quote: Sea Cat
            people just want to live


            you and your like-minded people apparently made a mistake. Russia cannot live without being a world power.
            Remember the 90s, did you have a good life at that time?
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 24 June 2020 13: 52 New
              +1
              ... apparently you're talking about a survey in March 2014

              No, I'm talking about October 1917 ...
              ... you and your like-minded people apparently made a mistake.

              The greatest stupidity is to consider yourself the ultimate truth and to appropriate the right to determine who and in which country you need to live.
              ... Russia cannot live without being a world power.

              Russia is simply “doomed” to be a world power, and all sorts of kings, general secretaries and presidents here are, in general, secondary.
              Lick the feed to anyone you want, since life is impossible for you without the "emperor". laughing soldier
        2. sir winston
          sir winston 18 June 2020 10: 53 New
          11
          About
          we are normal with fundamental science in all areas
          do you yourself believe?
      2. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 17: 10 New
        -10
        When you write about the British banking system, the "great and mighty" do not forget how its American speculator Soros bent with the pound in 92m. And as already today after the decision to leave the EU, companies began to transfer offices and "tax registration" from the same city to the continent and transfer their accounts to the banks of the remaining countries in the EU.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 18 June 2020 09: 45 New
      23
      Quote: lopvlad
      this is the same Thatcher from the collapsed into the distant 40s of the British Empire to the level of a banana republic

      It’s even strange. Here are the Russian "effective owners" and no less than "effective managers", for some reason they are struggling with this very banana England to drag the last penny. And not from anywhere, but from the advanced and prosperous, with its Rosatom and RD-180. Wildly indignant when they start not letting go, but to check the origin of the pennies. A return flow from wretched England to a prosperous Russia was not noticed. In principle, absent.
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 18 June 2020 10: 12 New
        +1
        A return flow from wretched England to a prosperous Russia was not noticed. In principle, absent.

        We are looking for someone who benefits. The answer is unequivocal - advantageous to England. The next question is: did it happen by chance or not?
        The answer in my opinion is also unambiguous.
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 29 New
        -10
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        for some reason, with all their might, in this very banana England they drag the last penny.


        the pirates also dragged and hid the stolen where the robbed could not reach him but it did not, for example, Tortuga, the world empire.

        Quote: Lannan Shi
        A return flow from wretched England to a prosperous Russia was not noticed.


        for the return flow to Russia, money must be earned and not stolen from the budget of Russia or from deceived equity holders or bank customers.
      3. sir winston
        sir winston 18 June 2020 10: 54 New
        +8
        London is a good place to hide your money and your sins.
    3. Octopus
      Octopus 18 June 2020 10: 47 New
      +5
      No, Thatcher never said that. The phrase is attributed to the chancellor of Germany Brandt, but according to secondary sources (articles by political scientists in the late 80s), and not according to his own speech.
  • cradle
    cradle 18 June 2020 10: 30 New
    -7
    but the naglia in ferns ... aha ... well, yes laughing
  • flicker
    flicker 18 June 2020 16: 30 New
    0
    how once defined this country
    which country do you call this?
  • Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 18 June 2020 09: 04 New
    -22
    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    fool
    Good "banana republic", - with atomic technology, space program, etc.

    You are trying to argue with the sufferers on the posts of party organizers, polit. workers, and other nomenclature pack of loafers ... Nor can they forget the unlimited power, gingerbread and buns that they ate under the covers ...
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 18 June 2020 12: 39 New
      -14
      The former party organizers and deputies for political affairs showed up ... as well as the director of trading and vegetable bases ... Minus like scalded ... It burns under their tail ... It's not Madame Nuland's cookies to eat at night under the covers.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: 30 vis
        This is not Madame Nuland's cookies to eat at night under the covers.

        tried to see! Tell us about the feelings ...
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 18 June 2020 09: 10 New
    21
    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    fool
    Good "banana republic", - with atomic technology, space program, etc.

    What the hell are similar technologies? All technologies and developments in any industry are Soviet developments and technologies that are thoroughly killed under Putinism.
    1. cradle
      cradle 18 June 2020 10: 32 New
      -14
      But should they have started straight from the invention of their, preferably square, wheel?
  • Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 18 June 2020 10: 22 New
    13
    I myself wrote such programs "Development of civil aviation for example" .... 20 years ago. Already with him .... And where is it all?
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 18 June 2020 17: 02 New
      +3
      Writing such programs is much easier and more interesting than even starting to implement them, but just try to protect your program, as they will quickly and popularly explain to you that it is unreasonable, inexpedient, costly and wasteful, etc., etc., and that there is NO money.
  • sergo
    sergo 18 June 2020 10: 44 New
    14
    And that all this appeared under Putin? No. All that Putin is promoting now was created in the USSR. For 20 years, these are endless flows and consolidation of the status of a raw materials appendage of the West and China.
    1. cradle
      cradle 18 June 2020 11: 18 New
      -13
      Isn’t it so that in the 90s the country was brought to its knees and did not collapse only nominally? Just trampled in guano. And from something it was necessary to push off. No matter what. But it turned out the same. Not at the very bottom right now, and it’s intended.
      1. KERMET
        KERMET 18 June 2020 18: 20 New
        +6
        Those. I must say thanks to those who first put the country "cancer", and then deigned to lift it "to its knees"?
  • Kamarada
    Kamarada 18 June 2020 10: 56 New
    +6
    Atomic technology and missiles came from a truly great empire state. Now what’s right and they say the gas station
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  • flicker
    flicker 18 June 2020 16: 05 New
    -14
    A good "banana republic" is good, with atomic technologies, a space program, etc.

    Yeah, we really need to send them to the banana republic, since Ukraine is nearby laughing
    They still can’t calm down because of the amendments. There and American senators and congressmen are also against the amendments. What is their business ?! But no, it hurts them a lot. According to the data for 2018, the geldings transferred 80 billion rubles to Russian NPOs - it’s clear for what purpose.
    ---
    When you communicate with friends about amendments, everyone says that among their acquaintances, 7-8 out of 10 people are for amendments.

    So I’ll go on July 1 and vote for the amendments.

    Z.Y. and these let them dream about their "banana republic" somewhere.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 19 June 2020 08: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: flicker
      that among their acquaintances 7-8 people out of 10 for amendments.
      So I’ll go on July 1 and vote for the amendments.
      Do you happen to work with friends and acquaintances in the State Duma? lol
  • kutuz
    kutuz 18 June 2020 21: 23 New
    +2
    It’s bad for you to watch TV.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 18 June 2020 06: 01 New
    14
    Novel, in the USA there is no and never has been a codified Constitution. There is case law. I mean, the Americans had nothing to write off from us. But the fact that they participated in writing ours, Yeltsin’s, is a hundred pounds. We need a new Constitution of the Russian Federation, and not darned by the amendments. By the way, the term "amendments" is also Americanism. This is called change in our country.
    1. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 06: 04 New
      30
      It is the new, not the supplemented / modified old. But the new galley rower even hesitates to stutter
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 18 June 2020 07: 02 New
        17
        Quote: Far In
        It is the new, not the supplemented / modified old. But the new galley rower even hesitates to stutter

        And to return the Stalin Constitution weakly? Better than the present, though old. And the 37th year will not hurt. That's right, albeit without executions for economic crimes, but the complete confiscation of property will not hurt. And build and build in Russia, in Siberia, etc. Unskilled laborers?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 18 June 2020 09: 19 New
          -12
          Quote: Egoza
          And to return the Stalin Constitution weakly?

          So far, weak.

          I understand that everyone is hunting all at once, but this does not happen. To completely rewrite the current Constitution, I mean Ch. 1,2 and 9, the "Constitutional Assembly Law" is required. Thoughts gathered under the current Constitution tried to adopt it four times - to no avail.

          The amendments to the Constitution proposed by Putin radically change the composition of the Duma - it will become more about the Russian one. The next Duma will be able to adopt this law and only then can we assemble the Constitutional Assembly, which will change the fundamental articles of the current Constitution. Not earlier.

          The amendments to the Constitution proposed by Putin are only the first step towards an evolutionary change in the social system. Opponents of the changes and their masters in the West understand this very well and they are doing everything for Russia to continue to be controlled from behind the hill.

          The EP has done everything to "blur" the presidential presidential elections with four hundred amendments and discredit it as a guarantor. The amendment of the EP (Tereshkova) to nullify the term, gave them a reason to file claims in everything and everyone.

          So the people are determined with what we want:
          - revolution;
          - evolution;
          - or leave it as it is.

          Personally, I am for the evolutionary path of development. Yes, it's a long time, but without bloodletting and lowering the country into the Stone Age. Everything is as it is - it does not suit me.

          Everyone who does not want to change anything, think - with whom are you?

          ps
          The social system is not changed by presidential decrees.
          1. cradle
            cradle 18 June 2020 10: 42 New
            -9
            Krasavella, removed from the tongue. It’s just not when to write at work for a long time.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 18 June 2020 11: 07 New
              -10
              Some explanations:

              Revolutionary way - This is the path of the color revolution under the direction of the US State Department. The people do not have money for revolution, and those who have it do not work for us, they work for the destruction (sale) of Russia.

              Evolutionary path - This is the policy pursued by Putin to gradually change the law in the interests of the majority of the people. When the new constitution is adopted by the Constitutional Assembly, all laws will be brought into the shortest possible time in accordance with the Basic Law of the Country. (Remember how the Duma stamped laws after the 93rd?)

              Let it be as it is - This will allow further robbing the country of Chubais and Gaidar. Today they are driven by Putin under the plinth. Do not forget that we started jumping two years before Ukraine (2012) and only thanks to Putin did we manage to avoid the collapse of the country into souvenir states.


              This is not a photo montage, he really jumped and tried to make the crowd jump.
              1. Far B
                Far B 18 June 2020 11: 36 New
                +9
                That is, for twenty years, Putin has not blunted that the constitution of the wrong system, but suddenly became blunt in the twenty-first year? I understand giraffes - the neck is long, the thread is small, it takes a long time. But Putin doesn’t look like a giraffe. Although, with current computer technology, hto knows ...
                1. Boris55
                  Boris55 18 June 2020 11: 47 New
                  -12
                  Quote: Far In
                  That is, for twenty years, Putin did not deceive that the constitution of the wrong system

                  Yes. To come to the possibility of at least something to change, I had to go a long way:
                  What is done (preparatory part):
                  -Do not let Russia fall apart (why change something if there is no country tomorrow?)
                  - Fill the budget with money and start performing social services. obligations to citizens (revision of contracts in the oil and gas sector, etc.).
                  - feed people. Do you still remember the bush legs?
                  - ensure the country's defense capability.

                  In the process:
                  A total change of the Constitution, bringing all legislation to its requirements.

                  What lies ahead:
                  Nationalization of the banking system. Make the ruble a global currency.
                  To lead the country to the most advanced countries in the world, and the standard of living of citizens is the highest. To do this, we have 20% of the world's natural reserves.
                  1. Far B
                    Far B 18 June 2020 12: 12 New
                    +8
                    That is, we should wait another five hundred years - and finally, we will start skating like cheese in butter. Normul. I did not expect another answer from you.
                    1. tagil
                      tagil 18 June 2020 15: 45 New
                      -9
                      But you do not wait, you can go to neighboring gabonia right now and see what you want to turn the country into.
                    2. Far B
                      Far B 18 June 2020 15: 55 New
                      11
                      You are better off to us. Habkray, the three northern regions. Any one to choose from. You can go to Kolyma. Cho are you shy? Gabonia, heh ...
                    3. tagil
                      tagil 18 June 2020 16: 04 New
                      -13
                      That is, we should wait another five hundred years - and finally, we will start skating like cheese in butter.
                      And you take the shovel in your hands, and maybe bring the butter and cheese for about eleven years, otherwise it’s better to tear the throat on the site, and you won’t see cheese in a hundred years.
                      Quote: Far In
                      You are better off to us. Habkray, the three northern regions. Any one to choose from. You can go to Kolyma. Cho are you shy? Gabonia, heh ...
                      And what difference does it make in what region or region?
                    4. cradle
                      cradle 24 June 2020 05: 16 New
                      -1
                      Well, I was in Okhotsk 2014-2017, Pichal kaneshno ... but this is thanks to Gaidar. And now concrete roads began to do there again.
              2. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 18 June 2020 12: 26 New
                +5
                well .. the above (though there is nothing more and, unfortunately, nothing to add) - was already in 2010:
                it didn’t fall apart, money appeared, not hungry, defensive ability and in 2000 was ..
                Why in 2010 did not make changes to the Constitution?
              3. New
                New Year day 18 June 2020 17: 53 New
                12
                Quote: Boris55
                Make the ruble a global currency.
                To lead the country to the most advanced countries in the world, and the standard of living of citizens is the highest

                Will the generator of this GDP last so much? 20 years already rowing, there is no result, except Forbes list and narcissism, corruption, mediocre vertical, etc.
                Quote: Boris55
                To do this, we have 20% of the world's natural reserves.

                On which Putin’s sidekick made a fortune, and the country has a donut hole. Also tell us about Western-style optimized healthcare, education, pension reform .... Your fantasies and Putin’s deceit are a terrible force, another carrot for donkeys
                1. lopvlad
                  lopvlad 24 June 2020 12: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Will the generator of this GDP last so much? 20 years already rowing, no result


                  Someone’s whole life is to be writhing and doing only in words, and Putin has a result and merit. The truth is we would like faster and more, but for this it was necessary not to lose the country's sovereignty in 1991.
              4. nickname7
                nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 48 New
                0
                . Make the ruble a global currency.
                To lead the country to the most advanced countries in the world, and the standard of living of citizens is the highest. To do this, we have 20% of the world's natural reserves.

                You forgot to add that America is overtaken, and will settle on Mars. It will be, it is only necessary to take to.
                1. cradle
                  cradle 24 June 2020 05: 17 New
                  0
                  Merias will come closer to Ukraine soon laughing
            2. lopvlad
              lopvlad 24 June 2020 12: 16 New
              -1
              Quote: Far In
              That is, for twenty years, Putin did not blunt


              you are probably a country and time wrong again. Russia is the largest country in the world in the 90s that survived the destruction more than during the Second World War.
              As a spoon is good for dinner, constitutional amendments should only be made in a critical situation (rapid expansion of NATO to the East, aggressive expansion of Western “values”, US withdrawal from the Treaties on an INF Treaty, START-3, and cessation of economic growth) and, as we see, it’s critical the situation has come.
          2. nickname7
            nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 44 New
            0
            . The revolutionary path is the path of the color revolution

            The color revolution is not a revolution at all, it is a coup d'etat. In Russia, the system has developed, there is nothing to share state coup will not relax

            .
            The evolutionary path is Putin’s policy of gradually changing the law in the interests of the majority of the people

            You have been misled, only oligarchs have interests, the people have no interests from the point of view of the elite.

            .Leaving everything as it is is to allow further plunder of the country to Chubais and Gaidar. Today they are driven by Putin under the baseboard.
            .
            As it is, 30 years continues and will be the next 30 years. Chubayshat Putin’s best friends, where she is driven, write nonsense.
            It is ridiculous that the Olgins received a training manual, pushing for the salvation of the Russian Federation. Your savior of the people, raised pensions to this people.
      2. snake
        snake 18 June 2020 14: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Boris55
        Personally, I am for the evolutionary path of development. Yes it longbut without bloodletting and lowering the country into the Stone Age.

        Well, well ... But what about:
        Time is compressed, I have talked about this many times, you all know this very well. He simply does not have his stock, the stock of time for swinging, for further utteries and coordination. (c) GDP

        Life constantly poses new challenges, new challenging tasks, and we still have to work hard to solve them. There is no time to swing (c) GDP

        ?
        And generally speaking! What is such an evolution? Stability is our everything!
      3. nickname7
        nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 54 New
        0
        .
        So the people are determined with what we want:
        - revolution;
        - evolution;
        - or leave it as it is.

        You have a magical solution to all the problems in adopting the constitution, but in one country they wanted to join the EU, they say you wake up in the morning, and you have a German salary and an apartment in a skyscraper, though they didn’t have something to ask.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 18 June 2020 17: 08 New
      +4
      And why immediately laborers?
      Specialists are not in a hurry to go there, but Dzhamshutov can be brought anywhere, but you will not create a construction department from them.
  • Avior
    Avior 18 June 2020 07: 29 New
    11
    Sorry, of course, why is there no constitution in the US?
    Since 1787 there is actually something.
    And they have precisely amendments; they are adopted in addition to the main text of the constitution.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 June 2020 07: 35 New
    26
    Need a new constitution
    The old one wasn’t executed because it’s American? And who said that someone will perform this?
    1. cradle
      cradle 18 June 2020 10: 43 New
      -15
      Well then, let’s not let’s prescribe and live according to the laws of the jungle, well, so it follows from your logic?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 18 June 2020 11: 10 New
        16
        Most amendments used to be at the federal level.
        The family as a union of a man and a woman was a thousand years before this Constitution.
        Those who believe in God all the same mention God in the Constitution or not.
        1. cradle
          cradle 18 June 2020 11: 21 New
          -11
          And what, there is no difference between the Fed. laws and articles of the Constitution?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 18 June 2020 11: 59 New
            13
            Yes, it makes no difference how federal laws are not enforced, so the articles of the Constitution are not enforced.
            1. cradle
              cradle 24 June 2020 05: 19 New
              0
              you, my friend are not in the right course.
          2. New
            New Year day 18 June 2020 17: 57 New
            10
            Quote: besik
            And what, there is no difference between the Fed. laws and articles of the Constitution?

            No, because the powerful are wiping one place with them
            1. cradle
              cradle 19 June 2020 01: 42 New
              -3
              ABOUT! the voice of a patriot of Uzbekistan was heard! laughing drowning for legality in the Russian Federation ... judging by the minusers, there are such dofig ... laughing patriots
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 18 June 2020 07: 53 New
    -8
    Quote: siberalt
    We need a new Constitution of the Russian Federation, and not darned by the amendments.


    so far sovereignty has only been enough for amendments, and even these amendments have caused such a squeal, gnashing of teeth among our Western partners and the media controlled by them, nourished by them.
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 18 June 2020 08: 31 New
      -27
      And we will vote FOR amendments to the Constitution, a long way begins with the first conservative step.
      1. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 18 June 2020 10: 44 New
        10
        Quote: Tank jacket
        And we will vote FOR amendments to the Constitution, a long way begins with the first conservative step.

        Well - IF - all of a sudden - according to the results, it turns out that MORE than 50 percent of the people voted - regardless of the result - then I AM STRONG !!! I’m surprised, because in the PEOPLE the mat is already being voted on by the vote itself - seriously laughing
        Well, what will be 146 percent “approved” among the voters - this is not to go to the grandmother bully
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 18 June 2020 15: 08 New
          -11
          Did you identify this in your yard?
        2. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 18 June 2020 17: 02 New
          -10
          Don’t go to the grandmother, it’s time to take a ticket for a hill ... wassat The film of the liberals is over ...
          1. New
            New Year day 18 June 2020 17: 59 New
            +9
            Quote: Tank jacket
            The cinema of the liberals is over.

            Read the text of the article .. about liberals led by Putin?
            Or is his honest recognition not enough for you? Indications of associates are few?
            1. cradle
              cradle 19 June 2020 01: 43 New
              -2
              no need to distort the word liberal and then everything falls into place.
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        3. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 19 June 2020 08: 28 New
          -3
          Come to the square, we will paint you with indelible paint and then ... As in Hong Kong one at a time ... wassat
      2. cradle
        cradle 18 June 2020 11: 23 New
        -17
        Look how the liberd zaminusila ... How it makes them. Now 100% vote FOR! So the right thing. good
        1. New
          New Year day 18 June 2020 18: 01 New
          11
          Quote: besik
          Look how the liberd zaminusila ... How it makes them. Now 100% vote FOR! So the right thing.

          Brain cancer! Chaim liberals, but let's go vote for liberals led by Putin! Decide, "Hu them Hu"
      3. snake
        snake 18 June 2020 14: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: Tank jacket
        And we will vote FOR amendments to the Constitution, a long way begins with the first conservative step.

        400 amendments, where "horses, people" mixed up in one fell swoop? Sooo "conservative" step ...
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 18 June 2020 16: 58 New
          -13
          Serpentarium, you are an ordinary liberalist, why didn’t you put Posner on the avatar?
          1. New
            New Year day 18 June 2020 18: 03 New
            12
            Quote: Tank jacket
            Serpentarium, you are an ordinary liberalist, why didn’t you put Posner on the avatar?

            Why aren’t you on the profile picture of liberal Putin? Well, you, for him, a liberal, are so torn laughing
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 19 June 2020 07: 04 New
              -2
              God, marriage, the union of a man and a woman, caring for children, history and memory of the Second World War are conservative values laughing
          2. snake
            snake 18 June 2020 18: 05 New
            +5
            Are you an extraordinary liberalist? Too often do you remember this of your Posner.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 17 New
              +5
              Quote: serpent
              Too often do you remember this of your Posner.

              reads at night, will soon change shoes
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 19 June 2020 16: 54 New
                -3
                The liberals will have to change their shoes ... Soon we will paint all the white-tape guns with paintball guns, put on dusty helmets and, as usual, calmly, routine, protocol, dry breech ... "No noise and dust" (c).
                1. nickname7
                  nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 30 New
                  0
                  . Soon we will paint with all the white-tape guns

                  Do not forget to dry the crackers, you will need in Magadan. Belolentochniki, sitting in power, a funnel will leave for you.
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: serpent
          400 amendments, where "horses, people" mixed up in one fell swoop? Sooo "conservative" step ...

          they do not care - just to please the idol
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 18 June 2020 09: 30 New
      21
      sovereignty so far only enough for amendments
      ... That is, Russia currently has limited sovereignty? .. If so, who limited it ...?
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 18 June 2020 09: 55 New
        16
        Quote: parusnik
        .Те currently Russia has limited sovereignty? .. If so, who limited it ...?

        Comrade, this is Fedorovsky’s node, who wrote a statement on Platoshkin.
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 18 June 2020 17: 06 New
          -13
          Platoshkin liberalist ....
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 44 New
        -9
        Quote: parusnik
        who limited it ...?


        1993 Constitution
      3. codetalker
        codetalker 18 June 2020 15: 12 New
        -5
        It is very strange that this is a surprise for you. Russia does not have full sovereignty. He was completely lost after the collapse of the union. In some key areas, it was restored. Nevertheless, financial and information policy management is completely outside the borders of Russia, much more is partially managed from Russia. This is enshrined in the constitution.
        1. nickname7
          nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 25 New
          0
          . Nevertheless, financial and information policy management is completely outside the borders of Russia,

          Sovereignty can be restored either if the overlord gives out free or by war. A piece of paper cannot restore sovereignty.
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 20 June 2020 17: 33 New
            0
            War is not only when bombs fall :)
      4. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 18 June 2020 15: 32 New
        +6
        Quote: parusnik
        Russia has limited sovereignty? .. If so, who limited it ...?

        even as limited ... try to touch the sovereignty of the Central Bank, Chechnya 3 or Ukraine2 are provided in a few hours
      5. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 18 June 2020 17: 05 New
        -8
        EBN and Naina, for whom the holy nineties and God bless America in Congress .... wassat
    3. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 18 June 2020 09: 49 New
      23
      Quote: lopvlad
      sovereignty so far only enough for amendments

      If, after 20 years of reign, the guarantor can only accept amendments .... That is not a failure, not a catastrophe, or even complete darkness and horror. For such a blatant inability to do at least something meaningful term has not yet been invented.
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 48 New
        -15
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        If, after 20 years of reign, the guarantor can only accept amendments


        and what can the president of the United States do to force the police to carry out their duties?
        Despite widespread stupidity about the fact that the 1993 Constitution is “super-presidential" Putin has several times less power than Gorbachev had in the 80s under the USSR Constitution.
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 18 June 2020 13: 03 New
          13
          Quote: lopvlad
          Putin has many times less power than Gorbachev had in the 80s under the USSR Constitution.

          Russia lives by concepts, not by constitution. Hodor prevented Putin? Planted. Exactly for the same reason that Alekperov was awarded the order. Did the Kungurs interfere? Planted. For an article about what a month later ORT and RTR began to talk about. Putin wanted to save on the inhabitants, without introducing an emergency mode? They scored on all sorts of constitutions and other nonsense.
          And if having complete freedom to punish anyone, the example is the same hodor, the value of mlyn in due time, and to reward anyone, the same vrotenbergs and Timchens are different, in one fell swoop from rags to riches, if with such leverage people did nothing. .. He is either completely incapacitated, or it didn’t give him up.
          1. nickname7
            nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 21 New
            0
            . Hodor prevented Putin?

            Hodor is a separate issue, he personally didn’t interfere with Putin, Hodor was nondisposed, posed a danger to other oligarchs, and Roselite authorized it to leave.
        2. New
          New Year day 18 June 2020 18: 08 New
          10
          Quote: lopvlad
          Putin at times less power than the same Gorbachev in the 80s

          You have a fever! Gorbachev, because of the lack of real power and stupidity, took the country, and Putin, under absolute power, cannot open Sberbank in Crimea laughing
          Wimp! Maybe with amendments Megaphone and Sberbank will appear in the Crimea! After all, the Crimea is Russian, and it seems that Sberbank too
  • Svarog
    Svarog 18 June 2020 06: 11 New
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    And here it is worth recognizing that the modern system of the vertical of power in Russia was not brought by the Martians or the Americans. This is a domestic development, whatever one may say. And do not blame Yeltsin,

    The system was built correctly by the liberal Putin, and this system involves only a cut. Because nepotism and mutual responsibility cannot create anything else. Putin, of course, knows this and is comfortable with him, as well as his friends, so his friends want to see him president for life.
    In general, this fact is perhaps one of the main reasons for the degradation of everything.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 18 June 2020 08: 46 New
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      Why is liberal Putin all too liberal?

      Because Putin is a liberal not in words but in deeds.

      1. Boris55
        Boris55 18 June 2020 10: 17 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        Because Putin is a liberal not in words but in deeds.

        What could be more liberal than asking the people: "Do you agree with the amendments to the Constitution or not?" But for some reason, those who consider themselves liberals are opposed to this in every way ... Here the question arises, are they liberals or just pretending to be?
        1. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 18 June 2020 12: 34 New
          +3
          It’s good that you agreed that Putin is a liberal. It is logical to continue the idea that those who are for amendments are liberals. After all, liberals are, by definition, those who long for change.
        2. New
          New Year day 18 June 2020 18: 11 New
          +8
          Quote: Boris55
          What could be more liberal than asking the people: "Do you agree with the amendments to the Constitution or not?"

          laughing but previously, without a vote, putting them into effect and, for safety, driving public employees to a vote. Like a liberal, it means legalized, and then through fraud secures himself an allibi
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 19 June 2020 08: 28 New
            -1
            Quote: Silvestr
            but previously, without a vote, putting them into effect

            We read the Law (http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/62988):
            "... If according to the results of the all-Russian vote changes in the Constitution of the Russian Federation will support more than half of citizenswho will take part in it, the amendments provided for by the Law on Amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in chapters 3–8 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, will take effect."
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 18 June 2020 08: 53 New
      -11
      Quote: Svarog
      and this system only involves cutting.


      you are hinting at the Pentagon in the United States, where an attempt to audit the sawn and stolen turned out to be a failure. For it is impossible even to theoretically calculate “honestly stolen”.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 June 2020 06: 24 New
    17
    Quote: Far In
    Putinism, I have already said, leads Russia to

    I don’t know where such a source will lead us:
  • knn54
    knn54 18 June 2020 07: 14 New
    19
    -And now it is more like a model in tsarist Russia.
    The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation.
    The worst laws are in Russia, but this drawback is offset by the fact that no one is following them.
    It’s nothing that in Europe they give one fifty dollars for our ruble, it will be worse if they give in our faces for our ruble.
    Russian authorities should keep their people in a state of constant amazement.
    In all countries, railways are used for movement, and in our country, moreover, for theft.
    We have no middle ground: either in the snout or in the handle, please.
    I wanted something: either the constitution, or the stellar sturgeon with horseradish, or someone to strip.
    If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia now, I will answer: they drink and steal (authorship is in doubt).
    Whatever you listen to, everyone is indignant at something, complaining, yelling.
    One says that too few freedoms give
    another that is too much; one grumbles that the government is inactive,
    the other is that power is acting too much; some find that stupidity has overcome us,
    others - that we have become too smart;
    third, finally, participate in all the dirty tricks and, laughing, say: well, where is such a disgrace seen ?!
    Even the thieves of state property - and they are unhappy that soon there will be nothing to steal.
    Almost a century and a half has passed since the day of the death of M.E.Saltykov-Shchedrin ...
  • Civil
    Civil 18 June 2020 07: 22 New
    12
    Some are Putin and his team, that is, guardians of the future of Russia, the second is the Dark Lord Navalny and someone else.

    It's just that "Old Grandfather Volodya" ... because you pounced on him, a person of age because everything is fine from his point of view. They pay a pension, eat, there is no need to queue at the clinic.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 18 June 2020 07: 52 New
    20
    We were taught in a Soviet school: "Tsar is the main landowner!"
    "The landowners and capitalists were at the same time. The king, the richest landowner, was at the same time with them. He was above all the masters. Such orders were established that were good only for landowners and capitalists. And it was very difficult for workers and peasants from these orders live." (N. Krupskaya, M. Dudin, etc., “To Children of V. I. Lenin.”) hi
    https://sheba.spb.ru/bib/krupskaia-lenin.htm wink
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 18 June 2020 09: 03 New
      -5
      Quote: To be or not to be
      We were taught in a Soviet school: "Tsar is the main landowner!"


      well, that’s what they taught correctly, for Nicholas 2, as they say in our time, was a super oligarch in terms of wealth and property. The richest in Europe of that time.
      Moreover, his power was not limited because the system is "monarchy".
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 18 June 2020 12: 35 New
        +6
        reminds someone of your description ..
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 18 June 2020 08: 42 New
    -15
    For those who were born on Putin's maternal capital, in the 2000th, when Putin came, Russia somehow didn’t look like a superpower, but even a banana republic. So you have a spatial orientation, where the top, where the bottom, and what goes where, big problems.

    And yes, Stalin actually was in power for 33 years. Maybe it’s not a matter of change of power?
    1. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 08: 51 New
      10
      Actually 33 ?! Seriously?! And confirm does not rust? Or, like everything else - la-la?
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 June 2020 08: 55 New
        -13
        From 1920 to 1953. I recall that after the assassination attempt, Lenin was already a little in the wrong condition to fully lead.
        1. Far B
          Far B 18 June 2020 09: 03 New
          14
          From the 20th ... Get fucked up. Neither Trotsky, nor the left / right opposition, nothing. One solid Stalin. Well. I have no more questions.
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 45 New
            -13
            Then it turns out that Putin also did not lead a day, because there has always been opposition. Questions really disappear here. YES and in general, no one led, because even when there are two, and one wants to lead, the other will be the opposition.
            1. Far B
              Far B 18 June 2020 11: 03 New
              +8
              Does not work. Putin officially holds the post of head of state.
          2. lopvlad
            lopvlad 18 June 2020 10: 53 New
            -10
            Quote: Far In
            Neither Trotsky, nor the left / right opposition, nothing


            Well, if you follow your own logic, then Putin was not in power for a single day, for the left / right opposition in Russia has existed and always exists, and Trotsky is so huge.
          3. codetalker
            codetalker 18 June 2020 15: 17 New
            -2
            Those of Stalin had an opposition in state administration, but Putin didn’t? Complete agreement?)
      2. depressant
        depressant 18 June 2020 11: 23 New
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        Somehow everyone was unanimously distracted from the actual causes of corruption and the lack of an institution for the enforcement of laws.
        To a narrow circle of conditional "friends" everything is allowed. The circle of bureaucracy on which "friends" rely is very wide. If all bureaucracy is not allowed, it will growl, the power of the "friends" will be shaken.
        So that the bureaucracy has its ration, feeds slowly and does not complain, looking at the luxurious and irresponsible life of "friends", state laws are adopted in such a way that the punitive sense for failure to fulfill is blurred and eroded further as the industry and job descriptions from the ministry go down. As a result, the job description of even an ordinary official admits frank voluntarism and lack of responsibility for the damage done, the corruption vertical is a stronghold, the government is unshakable. And only occasionally should a surge in law enforcement activity:
        the official did not share, did not share enough, shared the wrong way, too odious.
        In order for laws and instructions to be such, in 2006 our government deliberately refused to ratify an international document called

        UN Convention against Corruption (UNCAC).

        The document was adopted on 31.10. 2003 at the plenary session of the 58th session of the UN General Assembly and entered into force on 14.12.2005.
        The Convention contains 8 chapters, including 71 articles.
        Chapter 1 emphasizes the support of the fight against international corruption on the fight against it within the state that has signed this document. And article 5 explicitly obliges the signatory state "to establish and promote effective practices aimed at preventing corruption."
        The signatory state is obliged to evaluate its legal documents and administrative measures “in order to determine their adequacy in terms of preventing and combating corruption.”

        Russia has not ratified this Convention! I hardly admit the idea that the international community favored this. Including the USA.

        February 10, 2007, Putin makes his famous "Munich speech" about the depravity of the unipolar world.

        From here two amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation follow - "zeroing" and "priority of laws of the Russian Federation over international". Two corrections! They go in one bunch.
    2. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 08: 57 New
      +5
      33 ?! Seriously?! And confirm does not rust? Or just la la, like everything else?
    3. parusnik
      parusnik 18 June 2020 09: 37 New
      12
      Yeah, EBN handed over power to Putin and said: build a son, a superpower, something didn’t work out for me ... Understanding. Tired of building, I'm leaving ..smile
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 18 June 2020 14: 26 New
        +7
        Understood. Tired of building, I'm leaving ..

        The feeling that Eltsin was given any document for signing and speaking after 100 grams "for old yeast." "I'm tired, I'm a fly fly" from the same series.

    4. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 18 June 2020 10: 48 New
      +7
      Quote: EvilLion
      For those who were born on Putin's maternal capital, in the 2000th, when Putin came, Russia somehow didn’t look like a superpower, but even a banana republic. So you have a spatial orientation, where the top, where the bottom, and what goes where, big problems.

      And yes, Stalin actually was in power for 33 years. Maybe it’s not a matter of change of power?

      What nonsense about matkapital you write here ?! wassat Have you even used it yourself ?! Or soooo - THINK that everything is cool with him ?! bully
  • Navel
    Navel 18 June 2020 12: 27 New
    +1
    I like to sort such articles. Substitution of concepts and all that))
    Let's get started. Now in the world there is only one economic zone - the petrodollar zone (Brethenwood andenters system). There is a super boss - the USA (world government ...) All other countries participate in the sharing of the common market. Initially, there were 7 major G7 beneficiaries. Then came all sorts of China, Russia ... and everything became not so clear.
    A single market is ensured by the "uniform rules of the game" liberalism. No others.
    What happens to violators of the rules of the game? An example is China (see the fall in the turnover of its goods in 2019, in 2020 there will be more) It is denied access to the market.
    Is Russia integrated into a single market? Definitely yes. It receives preferences in the form of inflated prices for natural resources, and trades not only its own, but also Middle Eastern, Latin American, Asian, African. Monopoly dominates the nuclear technology market, etc. That is, Russia is part of the global liberal system.
    Can I create my own? Of course.
    1. North Korea has created its own (do you want to go there?)
    2. After the Great War, the USSR created its own by squeezing part of the market for itself (is this our method?))
    The author replaces the concepts, talks about the depravity of "our" liberal system, but it is not ours at all. Another question is whether Russia can create its own system and where will the market take it?
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 15 New
      0
      . Now in the world there is only one economic zone - the petrodollar zone

      But you forgot that this zone is divided into the center and the periphery. Oil prices are overstated, but you can’t take the surplus for yourself, but you need to invest in Western securities.
      1. Navel
        Navel 22 June 2020 14: 19 New
        0
        Duc, this is called a tribute. And how do you like))
        Anglo-Saxons spent hundreds of years building the system.
        Now everything is collapsing. And it’s not a fact that local fighters for communism ... of God .... justice and Choi ischo (underline as appropriate) will be more adequate than the Washington Regional Committee.
        It seems to me that with gratitude we will still recall the vicious and hypocritical Consumption Society imposed by the hegemon))
  • Dimmedroll
    Dimmedroll 18 June 2020 21: 14 New
    -4
    Only no one knows if he will run or not. And yes, in my opinion, they decide me the right to express my position. Why are the presidents limited in the number of elected times. My arms are twisted. And yes there is no legal violation. For example, in Germany there are no time limits.
  • zenion
    zenion 22 June 2020 15: 17 New
    0
    Putin lives by the principle - his shirt is closer to his body. In addition, he is afraid, but wants to live, because he’s not sure that he will live outside his post. Although the king, but to the end. One American said when I die, at least throw in the trash. He provided his away from Russia at the expense of the Russians
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 18 June 2020 05: 41 New
    13
    We are on the right track, Comrade!
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 18 June 2020 05: 59 New
    -18
    It’s clear that things are not very good, so what should be done? Revolution, socialism, executions? Destroy and rebuild?
    1. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 06: 17 New
      35
      And why do you put revolution-socialism-executions in one line? Destruction and rebuilding? For your information, the Bolsheviks quite themselves used factories created under tsarism, implemented the GOELRO plan developed under tsarism. But here the key word “embodied”, while under tsarism it was just a plan. Actually, as now - there are a lot of plans (show-offs), and the output is a loud bunch.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 18 June 2020 08: 23 New
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        Quote: Far In
        revolution-socialism-executions?

        Yes, therefore, that shooting is simply necessary (of course, by sentence). request
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 09: 30 New
        -13
        Quote: Far In
        For your information, the Bolsheviks quite themselves used factories created under tsarism.


        what are my old factories. Tsarist Russia was an agricultural power almost entirely devoid of industrial engineering and what we call medium-sized enterprises. The only factories that the Bolsheviks “used” were sugar and shipbuilding factories, though all the equipment was western (French in sugar factories) and the shipbuilding ships were almost entirely made up of foreign spare parts (like the "Russian" Superjet 100 in which 80% of foreign spare parts).


        implemented the GOELRO plan developed under tsarism


        wallowing with laughter. The Bolsheviks received "a country with a plow and left it with a nuclear bomb"
        1. Far B
          Far B 18 June 2020 09: 39 New
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          Yeah, 80% of the country was agricultural. But there were the rest 20. The same Putilovsky plant. Should I list everything, or googol to help?
          1. lopvlad
            lopvlad 18 June 2020 11: 02 New
            -3
            Quote: Far In
            The same Putilovsky plant. I should list everything


            it is enough to list the range of products that the Putilov factory was producing at the time of 1917 to understand that there was no industry. At the same time, I advise you to see how many factories the Bolsheviks built annually after 1917 and how many were built by 1941.
            1. Far B
              Far B 18 June 2020 11: 14 New
              +9
              I did not understand kament at all. I say that the Bolsheviks did not seek to destroy the factories that they inherited. You begin to rub me about the range of products of the Putilov plant. Yes, even if he let out at least some slippers at that time, what does it change? In the garden of elderberry, and in Kiev, uncle
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 10: 27 New
          -3
          Steam locomotive factories (in those years the construction of locomotives, as now the aviation industry) are weapons. The auto industry was born. So that is not really plow.
        3. EvilLion
          EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 50 New
          -6
          Well, some were. Just if you compare the 1913th and 1939th, the difference will be many times. About 80% of foreign spare parts in SSJ, you would study the materiel first, would not be disgraced.

          The same spelling reform was also conceived in tsarist times, and in general the question hung for more than a dozen years, it was simply begun to be implemented under the Bolsheviks. The tsarist ministers were not absolute fools, but they did not have the opportunity to implement at least 100 times the right ideas without eliminating the existing system.
      3. codetalker
        codetalker 18 June 2020 15: 20 New
        0
        Everything is true about the Bolsheviks. Where are you planning to find the Bolsheviks now?
    2. vladimirvn
      vladimirvn 18 June 2020 06: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It’s clear that things are not very good, so what should be done? Revolution, socialism, executions? Destroy and rebuild?

      Unfortunately, there is only one option. A long and painful evolution into a law-abiding state. We need a strong leader, not from the current party. How to find and choose him, I do not know.
      1. Gargantua
        Gargantua 18 June 2020 10: 47 New
        +9
        Quote: vladimirvn
        A long and painful evolution into a law-abiding state.

        I could agree with you in the early nineties, but today, living in 2020, I am convinced that this evolution cost us orders of magnitude more expensive than any revolution. I do not mean in monetary terms, but in human lives. There are official statistics. The human losses of our country since 1990 amounted to more than 20 million lives! and this number continues to increase daily
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 18 June 2020 07: 59 New
      23
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It’s clear that things are not very good, so what should be done? Revolution, socialism, executions? Destroy and rebuild?

      No. Urya Putin will shout! The main thing is stability! We will grit our teeth and watch how the country is degrading, and we will put those who whine about some changes - whiners! Is that all right?

      You, those who call all dissatisfied liberals and liberals, why do you yourself worship the main liberal ?? The answer, of course, will not be. Because they themselves do not know him. When all life is on instincts, it is difficult to build logical chains.

      Therefore, you can answer the same questions a hundred times, but the next day, as if nothing had happened, they will ask these questions again.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 51 New
        -13
        Where is the country degrading? Did you see it yourself?
    4. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 18 June 2020 09: 55 New
      16
      Quote: Pessimist22
      It’s clear that things are not very good, so what should be done? Revolution, socialism, executions?

      Can I ask a question? You know, surgical intervention in the body is painful, bad, sometimes lethal. But what do you personally prefer? With a guarantee to bend from peritonitis, or to go for an operation? From which, in principle, it is also possible to die, but is there a chance to survive, and even to cure the organism that is bending at the moment?
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  • Warrior MorePhoto
    Warrior MorePhoto 18 June 2020 06: 03 New
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    Quote: Ded_Mazay
    fool
    Good "banana republic", - with atomic technology, space program, etc.


    To look at the attitude of the state towards citizens and the quality of life, look at how pensioners live.
    And atomic technologies to pay utilities in half-pension or space technologies on which they steal trucks ... in general I’ll finish and then I will start up again.
    Change of power under the net !!!
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 09: 07 New
      -17
      On whom? Do you naively think that the new government will be pure-incorruptible? The fastest come to the feeder hungry
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 18 June 2020 17: 32 New
        +2
        You have some liberal notions: if you have power, then you must feed.
        And there can only be a salary, and not the highest.
        But in one thing you are right: liberals will be the first to resort to the feeder and, of course, as always, the bench will be shamefully short and we will have the same power as we had before.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 18: 29 New
          -6
          This is not my idea, these are the concepts of those aspiring to power and those who are behind them. After all, we changed the awl for soap: one clan of the oligarchy on another.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 18 June 2020 23: 03 New
        +5
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        On whom? Do you naively think that the new government will be pure-incorruptible?

        those. Do you need a state system? Need a monarch king and all?
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 53 New
      -17
      Senior citizens live well. Certainly no worse than in the USSR. The funny thing is that not only pensioners, but no one will live well without these same atomic, etc. technologies.
      1. New
        New Year day 18 June 2020 18: 18 New
        12
        Quote: EvilLion
        Senior citizens live well.

        So that you live on the same pension as my mother, in the amount of 11 thousand and have been working since 18 years
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 18 June 2020 23: 40 New
        +6
        Quote: EvilLion
        Senior Citizens Live Well. Certainly no worse than in the USSR. .

        Let's be sick!

        Yes, we have and the middle class at 17 thousand fattening!
        And Vladimir Putin well done!
        Politician, leader and fighter!
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 18 June 2020 06: 18 New
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    Roman, again huge + !!!
    It's time to remove the blanket from the face. I was surprised how much hatred has recently poured GDP on the USSR, as if all his childhood, adolescence and youth passed in concentration camps or in a settlement.
    Here is just one example (from 3:40):

    The dispute is without the right to discuss, and, importantly, the experience of working in agriculture of a certain Zubkov, who was the director of state farms, is presented. True, it is not specified which ones so that we can compare. And here is what Vicki gives us:
    1967-1985 - work on state farms of the Leningrad Region as manager of a department, deputy director, director, general director of a union of state farms ...
    Doctor of Economic Sciences. Thesis: "The Russian Federation in the international system of combating the legalization (laundering) of criminal proceeds and the financing of terrorism." She was defended in 2010 at the Russian Academy of Public Administration under the President of the Russian Federation.

    And, as an experienced agricultural dock, today holds the position:
    First Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation

    But the most interesting thing is that he received the first award for outstanding success ???
    That's right, the Order of the Badge of Honor (1975), the Order of the Red Banner of Labor (1981), the Veteran of Labor Medal (1986) ... What is his success? What was he awarded medals for if there were no beef cattle breeds in the USSR, milk from under a cow, and what agricultural crops are these unknown state farms generally famous for?
    1. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 06: 27 New
      15
      GDP is what is characterized by the not-so-sounding word renegade. The officer who took the oath of the USSR and violated this oath. A communist who swore a communist oath and violated a vow. Hannibal Barca does not approve. And by the way, these are the renegades who surrendered to the USSR, and not the Communists at all. And now these creatures are pouring crocodile tears - they say, the greatest geopolitical disaster. Yeah ugh on them
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 09: 17 New
        -12
        Quote: Far In
        The officer who took the oath of the USSR and violated this oath. A communist who swore a communist oath and violated a vow.


        Do you want to show us the bullet holes from the period when you got them protecting the USSR in 1991?
        The officer, first of all, obeys the order of the higher authorities and not the AWOL. I would still understand your claims if Putin were the head of the KGB of the USSR in 1991 and not the lieutenant colonel who worked at that time as an assistant to Sobchak.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 55 New
        -8
        At your leisure, find out how the oath works. For example, it cannot be preserved if the oath object disappears. It is either nullified or done in Japanese hara-kiri.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 18 June 2020 07: 08 New
      14
      I was surprised how much hatred has recently poured GDP on the USSR, as if all his childhood, adolescence and youth passed in concentration camps or in a settlement.

      As a scout, he was silent until the last, but now you can relax, express what you kept in your heart ... Grandfather worked as a cook for Lenin and Stalin. Looks like the last one didn’t let him pull a lot from the kitchen, so the young grandson was offended by all “their power”
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 18 June 2020 14: 36 New
        10
        Grandfather worked as a cook with Lenin and Stalin. Looks like the last one didn’t give much pull from the kitchen

        Probably because the grandson still can’t get drunk. request
    3. Octopus
      Octopus 18 June 2020 10: 50 New
      +8
      Quote: ROSS 42
      as if all his childhood, adolescence and youth passed in concentration camps or in a settlement.

      The USSR sent Putin to the hated German region, where there wasn’t such a delicious Soviet ice cream. You would have been left without a Soviet ice-cream - you would have been brutalized too, and you have gone to the Vlasovites, if not to Makhno.
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 18 June 2020 06: 19 New
    +9
    I basically agree with the author, I disagree only in the fact that Putin was "to blame" for creating such a system ... This system was created from Putin - PUTIN. If Putin created this system of power, he would defend it. He would demand that his "dreams - national projects" be fulfilled. He would punish the "naughty", but not the "extreme" and would "dunk in sartirs" ... But he does not. For a certain time, the system was useful for the state as a stabilizer of the unity of power and citizens, but time passed and the system began to fall apart. It’s falling apart not because Putin and K are at the head of it, but because the STATE is facing new tasks that Putin and K no longer understand and will fight for “their system” to the end (zeroing, or pandemics, or dictatorships - it’s not important), until this system decays and collapses ... and God forbid that this collapse would not bury the citizens of the Russian Federation, as it did in 1917 and 1991.
    1. tatra
      tatra 18 June 2020 06: 40 New
      14
      The system created by the enemies of the Communists after their capture of Russia is a system of enriching them at the expense of Russia and its people, their irresponsibility and impunity, their slander against those from whom they took the country, and the cowardly blaming responsibility for the fact that the enemies of the Communists themselves made . So the Bolsheviks wanted to carry out large-scale industrialization, they did it, of course, they didn’t do much, but they wanted to do it, therefore, it didn’t make sense to blame the fact that they didn’t succeed on those whom they took the country. And in Putin’s talk about “galoshes”, the whole ideology of the enemies of the Communists is to slander those whose enemies have taken the country away from the Communists and blame the responsibility for the economy created by the enemies of the Communists.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 18 June 2020 07: 07 New
        +6
        You are right, Irina, especially in that if decisions were made on the implementation of global projects, such as industrialization, then these projects were implemented no matter what. And there was responsibility for their words and deeds, but it was the Communists ... They understood that the people would believe in socialism only when they, the people, would live better. There was an individual responsibility for the obligations undertaken. In the USSR, each person was personally responsible for his work and reported to the team, and therefore he drilled an oil well according to the plan, without regard to the rise and fall of oil prices. Remember that the first was destroyed by the destroyers of the USSR - a planned economy and personal responsibility. The planned economy was destroyed by words - deficit is not effective either; Personal responsibility - freedom of speech and protection of human rights. Today we are witnessing a “throwing” of the state economy, and a complete lack of personal responsibility for “our words and obligations”.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 57 New
        -14
        I can’t understand, are you really a living person, or a radio point? Normal people just don't say that.
        1. tatra
          tatra 18 June 2020 10: 59 New
          +5
          Ha, what do normal people say?
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 18 June 2020 07: 42 New
      +3
      “What did Putin get when he came to the leadership of a country that is decaying before the eyes of a ruined and plundered economy? But he received presidential powers, which at that time were purely nominal power (perhaps because they were not afraid to pass it on to him).

      The real power in the country belonged to a unique entity called "seven bankers"

      The term "seven-bankers" was introduced on November 14, 1996 by journalist Andrei Fadin (died November 19, 1997), who published the article "Semibankirschina as a new Russian version of seven-boyars" in the "General newspaper".

      The list of bankers in the article was based on an interview given by Boris Berezovsky to the Financial Times on November 1, 1996, where he named the seven people who control more than 50% of the Russian economy and jointly influence the adoption of the most important domestic political decisions in Russia (the so-called oligarchs) who played a significant political and economic role, which owned the media and informally united, despite internal disagreements, in order to ensure the re-election of Boris N. Yeltsin for the next term in the 1996 presidential election:

      1. Boris Berezovsky - LogoVaz

      2. Mikhail Khodorkovsky - Rosprom Group (Menatep)

      3. Mikhail Fridman - Alfa Group

      4. Peter Aven - Alfa Group

      5. Vladimir Gusinsky - Bridge Group

      6. Vladimir Potanin - Oneximbank

      7. Alexander Smolensky - SBS-Agro (Capital Bank)

      8. Vladimir Vinogradov - Inkombank

      9. Vitaly Malkin - Russian loan
      ( From the website
      How Putin destroyed the oligarch’s noose on the neck of Russia under ... Putin.ru-an.info ›news› how-Putin-destroyed-y ..)
      Then the GDP said: “There are no others, but those are farther ...” (((There are no others, but they are farther ... Quote from “Eugene Onegin” by A. S. Pushkin, chap. 8, stanza 51 (1832): Others no, and those are farther, As Sadi once said!
      Source: https://citaty.su/inyx-uzh-net-a-te-daleche-kak-sadi-nekogda-skazal)))
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 18 June 2020 09: 47 New
        +5
        To be or not to be Today, 07: 42
        “What did Putin get when he came to the leadership of a country that is decaying before the eyes of a ruined and plundered economy? But he received presidential powers, which at that time were purely nominal power (perhaps because they were not afraid to pass it on to him).

        The real power in the country belonged to a unique entity called "seven bankers."

        Putin destroyed the oligarch's noose on the neck of Russia.

        Exactly.
        - "People, you know, they added him to the case - and he threw them." wassat
      2. Octopus
        Octopus 18 June 2020 11: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: To be or not to be
        relied on an interview given by Boris Berezovsky on November 1, 1996, to the Financial Times, where he called

        Boris Abramovich, for all his merits, was a little balabol. These people never had real power. Actually, four (from memory) of this list Putin’s dictatorship of the law was chewing and not noticing. Which shows well what these spiders in the bank really cost.
        1. To be or not to be
          To be or not to be 18 June 2020 11: 24 New
          +1
          Octopus ..Boris Abramovich, for all his virtues, was .. "
          Everyone wants to stay acne in history. But not everyone succeeds. Many just get into it like something yellow and smelly. Units remain in history !!! No matter how many shout, GDP has already gone down in history ..
          Regarding the poodle ..https: //eadaily.com/en/news/2016/08/08/anatoliy-kulikov-chechenskaya-voyna-nachalas-6-avgusta-1990-goda
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        3. brat07
          brat07 20 June 2020 04: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Octopus
          Quote: To be or not to be
          relied on an interview given by Boris Berezovsky on November 1, 1996, to the Financial Times, where he called

          Boris Abramovich, for all his merits, was a little balabol. These people never had real power. Actually, four (from memory) of this list Putin’s dictatorship of the law was chewing and not noticing. Which shows well what these spiders in the bank really cost.
          Actually, four (from memory) Putin’s from this list dictatorship chewed the law and not noticing.

          Actually, I'm more interested in it, Putin. Is he a dictator or a liberal?
          Or is it all in one bottle? Or is there some kind of inconsistency?
          I am inexplicably.
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 20 June 2020 09: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: brat07
            Or is there some kind of inconsistency?

            There is no inconsistency here.

            Putin is the usual president for Africa, there are dozens of them. He is liberal in everything his duties. He owes you nothing. I wish you happiness, health, good mood.

            He is a dictator in all matters Your rights. Your place is at the bucket.

            As you can see, these settings are symmetrical and blend perfectly with one another.

            Actually, for postcolonial countries such a leadership is natural. Very rarely there are national leaders of another leaven.
            1. brat07
              brat07 20 June 2020 18: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Octopus
              Quote: brat07
              Or is there some kind of inconsistency?

              There is no inconsistency here.

              Putin is the usual president for Africa, there are dozens of them. He is liberal in everything his duties. He owes you nothing. I wish you happiness, health, good mood.

              He is a dictator in all matters Your rights. Your place is at the bucket.

              As you can see, these settings are symmetrical and blend perfectly with one another.

              Actually, for postcolonial countries such a leadership is natural. Very rarely there are national leaders of another leaven.

              About how!
              Putin is the usual president for Africa, there are dozens of them.

              Your place is at the bucket.

              Where is your place? Or are you broadcasting from another country?
              And yes, I would like to see "the ordinary president of Africa, who has a vigorous loaf?
              Does it flatter me like this or are you really broadcasting from our fraternal country?
              Although, you can not answer. And you, health, good mood.
              1. Octopus
                Octopus 20 June 2020 19: 09 New
                0
                Quote: brat07
                Where is your place?

                Under You I mean his subjects. If I write from Russia, then yes, and mine too.
                Quote: brat07
                And yes, I would like to see "the ordinary president of Africa, who has a vigorous loaf?

                It could have been S. Ramafos if the last white government of South Africa did not have the intelligence to destroy its nuclear developments before the transition to black democracy. Unfortunately for everyone, Russia / the USSR has never been lucky with governments, unlike South Africa.
                Quote: brat07
                Does it flatter me like this or are you really broadcasting from our fraternal country?

                We will never be brothers.

                By the way, Ukraine has the same problems with its own, of course, features. Surkov, alas, is right, the Ukrainian state also fails.

                Quote: brat07
                health, good mood.

                Thank you. hi
                1. brat07
                  brat07 20 June 2020 20: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: Octopus
                  Quote: brat07
                  Where is your place?

                  Under You I mean his subjects. If I write from Russia, then yes, and mine too.
                  Quote: brat07
                  And yes, I would like to see "the ordinary president of Africa, who has a vigorous loaf?

                  It could have been S. Ramafos if the last white government of South Africa did not have the intelligence to destroy its nuclear developments before the transition to black democracy. Unfortunately for everyone, Russia / the USSR has never been lucky with governments, unlike South Africa.
                  Quote: brat07
                  Does it flatter me like this or are you really broadcasting from our fraternal country?

                  We will never be brothers.

                  By the way, Ukraine has the same problems with its own, of course, features. Surkov, alas, is right, the Ukrainian state also fails.

                  Quote: brat07
                  health, good mood.

                  Thank you. hi

                  We will never be brothers.

                  Thank you for your frankness! hi
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion 18 June 2020 10: 59 New
      -10
      What are the challenges? What exactly does Putin not understand? That's right specifically, what are the challenges? Well, besides the fact that the snickering population demands more and more.
      1. Ded_Mazay
        Ded_Mazay 18 June 2020 17: 23 New
        -7
        And the answer is a bunch of minuses ... As usual, in short, a party of "comrades" came and everyone who did not like it from ... minus. lol
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  • avia12005
    avia12005 18 June 2020 06: 24 New
    -2
    Very often it becomes embarrassing for ministers, governors, and mayors, because any normal commander of a regiment or division, who did not become one of them, but honestly, would fulfill his duties with much greater efficiency. I am tormented by vague doubts: since in case of non-fulfillment or violation, the prosecutor’s office always comes into play, maybe it will disperse ministers, governors, deputies and others as a class, and give all the leadership to the prosecutors?
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 18 June 2020 08: 04 New
      +7
      We no longer have a prosecutor’s office as an organ that oversees the unity of enforcement and application of the law. After the bourgeois counter-revolution, her teeth were pulled out - supervision of the preliminary investigation and the courts, her own investigation and authorization (election) of preventive measures in criminal proceedings were taken away. Left only one "tears of the prosecutor."
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  • rocket757
    rocket757 18 June 2020 06: 31 New
    +1
    At least a nail, at least name yourself a load, if only there were ORDER in the house!
    And so ... the poor, getting poorer, the rich are getting richer, and embezzlers / thieves are seated in warm places, in extreme cases they are fed into warm / foggy lands, but not like in the distant "sunny" Magadan, where they belong ...
    The solid liber r r is unclear what.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 18 June 2020 06: 37 New
      +1
      Vit, but who, to hell, needs such an order in his house when they put everyone for the all-powerful? Do you need it? In general, I always put myself for a person.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 June 2020 06: 58 New
        +3
        Konstantin soldier
        Man is a difficult creation ... if you meet one who always suits everything, you immediately start looking for a dirty trick or orderlies.
        The order in the house is a hope for the future, our own and those around us.
        A mess .. for some, this is quite a welcome period for different things, affairs.
        Something average, the so-called optimum .... probably it was interesting to see and live, but somehow he always sidestepped us!
        PS order is a subjective concept, how many people, so many opinions!
  • Old partisan
    Old partisan 18 June 2020 06: 52 New
    -2
    I wanted to write something.
    There is nothing to add.
    Glory to Putin Medvedev, etc., etc.
    It would be worth them to recall the riot in Russia bloody and ...
    Getting closer.
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 18 June 2020 07: 40 New
      +2
      It would be worth them to recall the riot in Russia bloody and ...
      Getting closer.

      Everyone hopes that they will surely carry them.
  • tatra
    tatra 18 June 2020 07: 06 New
    +7
    For example, Putin's paid propagandists stubbornly palm off the so-called liberals as an opposition to Putin, the enemies of Russia, but for 20 years Putin has not repressed any of the "liberals" for political reasons, unlike the "left". "Liberals" under Putin, everything is allowed.
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 18 June 2020 07: 07 New
    -8
    Quote: Far In
    She allowed Putin to reset to zero, in violation of the Constitution.


    As I understand it, all the fuss with amendments to K revolves for the most part only around the so-called. zeroing?
    And I immediately have a question. Why can't a person with great authority and a high level of support among the population be the president as long as the country's population allows him? And what do we have, on Putin, the light wedged in? After him, there will be no presidents and elections? You look beyond your own nose.
    I do not understand what the violation of K? If the amendments pass, then there will be no a priori anesthesia. Why are you fooling people to the head, giving out what you want as real.
    1. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 07: 33 New
      +2
      Do you at least familiarize yourself with the amendment procedure before expressing your valuable opinion
      1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
        Aleksey Aleksandrovich 18 June 2020 08: 51 New
        -2
        I read your "valuable" opinion and asked a question. I have familiarized myself with the amendment procedure for a long time if you are so concerned.
        1. Far B
          Far B 18 June 2020 09: 14 New
          +4
          They read poorly. Amendments to the Constitution can be made by an initiative group of two-thirds of the deputy corps, and not one Tereshkova in one person, no matter how severe the old woman
          1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
            Aleksey Aleksandrovich 18 June 2020 09: 26 New
            -3
            So Tereshkova proposed this amendment, or from the members of the initiative group?
            Even if Tereshkova froze the gag, the working group could reject her offer. Offer rejected? No. So what are the tears about?
    2. military_cat
      military_cat 18 June 2020 10: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
      And I immediately have a question. Why can't a person with great authority and a high level of support among the population be the president for as long as the country's population allows him?

      Because the change of power is an important element of the system of checks and balances that impede the concentration of all power in the same hands with its subsequent use in personal interests, i.e. corruption.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 18 June 2020 15: 38 New
        -2
        I do not know. One of the most prominent rulers of Russia is Stalin, and he fought corruption and he had a lot of power. No interchangeability.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 18 June 2020 17: 05 New
          +3
          This is how lucky. If you win the historical lottery, there will be Lee Kuan Yu. If you lose, you will lose zero and his friends. And the checks and balances are not to play the lottery, especially since long-term sustainable historical development with the lottery is poorly compatible.
      2. nickname7
        nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 05 New
        0
        . that the change of power is an important element of the system of checks and balances that impede the concentration of all power in one hands

        You have a cart in front of the horse, if there are no checks and balances, then changeability is not needed. The West has more variety, more players - the manufacturing and financial sectors are strong, and the raw materials are so-so, they need to balance interests. In the Russian Federation, some raw materials are strong, there are no checks.
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 21 June 2020 16: 26 New
          -1
          "Checks and balances" is not about raw materials and non-raw materials, but about the division of power into mutually controlling branches.
    3. nickname7
      nickname7 20 June 2020 17: 08 New
      -1
      . that the change of power is an important element of the system of checks and balances that impede the concentration of all power in one hands

      Exactly. The rest was simply diluted, the family, god, could add to that the sky is blue and the water is wet.
  • bober1982
    bober1982 18 June 2020 07: 11 New
    -6
    You can get confused.
    Khrushchev, according to the author, is a democratized communist (?!). He seems to be all together, despite political differences, and he was recorded as Trotskyite.
    Dear Leonid Ilyich, not only began the construction of the BAM, as mentioned in the article, but also created all the prerequisites and conditions for the collapse of socialism.
    The current head of state, enlisted in the liberals, is certainly something.
    And who then to call and where to go is the clan of the security forces, the St. Petersburg security officers, who are opposing precisely the liberals. Or, as liberal citizens say, a bloody gebe.
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 June 2020 07: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: bober1982
      You can get confused.

      -----------------------
      Why get confused? Each "mistake" has a name, surname and middle name as they used to say. You just need to dot the "I" in time. And it is not necessary to invent “isms”, but it is necessary to return to the state its initial functions, and not to turn it into a continuous apparatus of violence by some over others, as is done now.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 18 June 2020 07: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Altona
        not to turn it into a continuous apparatus of violence of some over others as is done now.

        But, any state is violence against people. If not, then there will be anarchy.
        1. Altona
          Altona 18 June 2020 07: 52 New
          +8
          Quote: bober1982
          But, any state is violence against people.

          -------------------
          This is understandable, if according to Lenin, I added the word "solid" for a reason. The state also has social functions (medicine, education, employment) and the notorious apparatus of violence is used in a narrow segment of the rule of law, rather than suppressing the entire population to please a small group.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 18 June 2020 08: 25 New
            -7
            Quote: Altona
            the notorious apparatus of violence is used in a narrow segment of law enforcement

            In all the social functions you have listed, violence is used in a strong state.
            Otherwise, it will be according to Kropotkin
            1. Altona
              Altona 18 June 2020 08: 39 New
              +7
              Quote: bober1982
              In all the social functions you have listed, violence is used in a strong state.
              Otherwise, it will be according to Kropotkin

              -----------------------
              Why else? Just if you push in all directions, especially in terms of public dialogue, plugging your mouth, then you will be anarchism in the end, either 1918 or 1991.
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 18 June 2020 08: 48 New
                +1
                Quote: Altona
                either 1918 or 1991.

                The state weakened, the apparatus of violence was demoralized, hence the unrest, which led to the collapse of the tsarist Empire and the USSR.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 18 June 2020 08: 58 New
                  +9
                  Quote: bober1982
                  The state has weakened, the apparatus of violence has been demoralized

                  -------------------------
                  Vladimir, I would agree with you, but it is precisely the apparatus of violence and the people of state that have weakened the state. Under the tsar-priest, the "English party", and under the USSR, part of the party farm and the KGB, the conditional "American party". Of course, with a parallel erosion of economic power to create a social base for the riots.
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 18 June 2020 09: 11 New
                    0
                    Quote: Altona
                    create a social base for riots.

                    We are witnessing how cleverly arrange these same riots at our overseas partners.
                    The main thing is to literally put the police on their knees, and then the pogroms and robberies organized by a half-mad crowd, to call the fight against racism.
                    And, after all, to restore order, one company with machine guns is enough.
                    But, local authorities are bewildered and crushed by the crowd.
          2. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 19 June 2020 08: 24 New
            -4
            The state is a system of people's survival without losing their cultural identity ...
    2. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 07: 52 New
      +8
      the current head of state, enlisted in the liberals, this is of course something
      tell this to the current head of state, otherwise he considers himself a liberal for some reason. Probably lost his mind?
  • Per se.
    Per se. 18 June 2020 07: 12 New
    13
    It turns out that the idea is good, but the execution ... But there is no execution.
    What is the problem?

    What is there to be surprised at? The article about relations with Minsk woke up and activated a lot of "Cerberus" and "firewalls", to push through the desired opinion. For example, there was such a parry on investment and development, in a comment carstorm 11 (Dmitry) .
    The Central Bank has long been not buying up bonds in the states. With 100 yards with a tail 6 pounds back, there are three left now. The text is of course beautiful only all lies.
    What do we have - "According to the US Treasury, in April 2020, Russia increased its investment in US government securities by almost 80% to $ 6,85 billion. Of this amount, 2,84 billion dollars accounted for short-term securities and 4,014 billion dollars - long-term".
    As for why it doesn’t work ... So, firstly, capitalism, dependent on the owners of this world system, is not at all interested in a strong Russia. Secondly, as one of the reasons, I repeat.
    1) The Central Bank is not aimed at the Russian sector of the economy, it is forbidden to engage in it. Of course, the Russian economy in this situation swims into the hands of those who are willing to lend it - foreign banks. True, under the condition of subordination of the borrower to the bank.
    2) The Central Bank squeezes the Russian beneficiary (beneficiary).
    3) The government cannot dispose of any gold reserves or any other assets of the Central Bank of Russia. By law, the Central Bank does not even have the right to lend to the government, which is the most ridiculous and tragic.
    4) In essence, the Central Bank is just a printing house for changing the appearance of the dollar and the euro, thereby making the financial system of Russia dependent on the international financial system with a core management in the US Federal Reserve.
    5) The Central Bank through its purchases of US government bonds strengthens the American economy.
    Created in Russia, on the initiative of the US Federal Reserve and with the support of a team of foreign advisers, the Central Bank today has become, in essence, a branch of the American money machine. Why affiliate? Yes, because the Central Bank is responsible for placing all proceeds for the sale of Russian hydrocarbons on world sites in US bonds. It is in the American “treasuries” that the entire Stabilization Fund of the Russian Federation is stored, and in nothing else!

    Well, and thirdly, brother oligarchs, who, like, we don’t have (according to Peskov), with their selfish interests, and we link our happy future with the West. Plus, insolent bureaucrats who realized that they were planting those who steal a "bag of potatoes", and not those who had mastered a billion dollar bag.
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 18 June 2020 08: 47 New
      -7
      [quote = Per se.] [quote] What do we have - "According to the US Treasury, in April 2020, Russia increased its investment in US government securities by almost 80% to $ 6,85 billion. Of this amount, 2,84 billion dollars accounted for short-term securities and 4,014 billion dollars - long-term"[/ quote]

      It was not Russia that invested, but the Central Bank placed its investments in US securities. And Russia, according to the law on the Central Bank, is prohibited from interfering in its monetary policy and the influence of the Russian authorities on the Central Bank, apart from the possibility of changing its head once every 4 years, has recently acquired Russia from the Central Bank of Sberbank for a fabulous price.
      We lost economic sovereignty back in 1991. It’s good, even recently, to mint on coins and on banknotes depict the Russian coat of arms and not the coat of arms of the provisional government (eagle with wings spread).
      It is easy to lose economic sovereignty and it is possible to regain it only by building a strong economy, and even without the priority of national legislation can not be built.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 18 June 2020 10: 49 New
        +7
        Quote: lopvlad
        and the Central Bank has placed its investment in US securities
        Here you are right, although it seemed that the Central Bank should belong to Russia. In fact, we have interesting semantic somersaults, as a phrase immediately after establishing the ownership of property - "the state is not responsible for the obligations of the bank, the bank - for the obligations of the state." The Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, as it were, clearly makes everything clear about the ownership of the Central Bank, but in fact the government (Russia) depends on the policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, and not vice versa. It turns out that "the property belongs to the state" and with this "property" the state cannot answer for its obligations ... So, the state can become bankrupt even with a huge foreign exchange reserve, because, in fact, the foreign exchange reserve is untouchable.

        By and large, everything resembles the US legislation on the Fed, with an important exception, the US government “securities” fall into the hands of the Fed, and in exchange for the government’s accounts, the corresponding “tsifiri” simply did not exist in nature before. These numbers are becoming new money, which is controlled by the US government.

        What do we have? A completely different system is already in place - the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not have the right to lend to the Russian government under any circumstances, and, accordingly, this mechanism for introducing money into the economy is turned off generally by the current law. Rubles are introduced through the purchase of foreign currency, that is, the same dollars. In other words, how many dollars the Central Bank will put into its piggy bank for so much and it will print rubles and put them into circulation, all this happens through the currency exchange. So, the ruble mass is directly tied to the dollar.

        As many as 1 points were put to the vote (July 39) (all in one list), where they did not even forget about “Protection of the family and childhood, the union of man and woman,” but there is nothing to correct the Central Bank’s membership, to leave the dependent bondage.

        From the screens we see people who want "the best", repeating what should be an axiom in any normal constitution, but no one will say about the zeroing of the previous terms of the presidency, the inviolability of ex-presidents, the factual abolition of the independence of the judiciary, and much more that is not particularly advertised. So who is the boss in Russia, and is it possible to really live in capitalism, and be independent of its world masters, of its rules, not for the benefit of the invented colonies?
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 18 June 2020 07: 26 New
    -7
    The analysis of the period of the reign or reign of the head of state is an interesting and extremely fascinating thing. This is just the same analysis if the heads of state who rule under the same system (for example, under monarchism, communism or capitalism) are taken for comparison.
    Take that way in a crowd of all the monarchs and in a moment from the cohort the names of leaders pop up Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible, Peter 1, Catherine 2, Alexander 3. And note the names of those who either raised the country to a new level of development or those who pulled the country out of the pit after the last ruler .
    Under communism, Stalin is the undisputed leader, because thanks to the fruits of the achievements of his rule, we still have not shared the fate of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya (which did not have nuclear weapons) and Brezhnev is only grateful for keeping the country from collapse for several decades.
    Since 1991, we have been living under capitalism, where, moreover, the simple people deprived us of the right to subsoil in the Constitution in 1993, defining the honorable role of a guard, and granted the right to trial us to various western courts and offices.
    They were given the opportunity to determine how to live, how and with whom we should marry (LGBT rights), how to give birth to children (family planning centers where, in the 90s, they raptured that children should not be given birth before but should be planned to give birth when financially have become prosperous and now you need to eat contraceptive buckets, though forgetting to mention that drinking them for decades kills a woman’s reproductive health making her infertile), how to raise children (juvenile justice), teach us how to defend our rights (which are most important in honest and transparent ways, according to the West, elections. That the main thing is the change of power and not personal and business qualities, the achievements of the candidate. Even if it is oblique, blind, deaf and hating Russia but approved in the West. The truth about the change of power in the West is instantly forgotten if the country rules it and a loyal ruler (for example, the same Mubarak who ruled Egypt for 30 years or Mrs. Merkel who has been in power for 20 years, about jellied mona rkhii generally keep quiet)).
    And now about the rulers of the capitalist system in Russia since 1991. And there were three of them, Yeltsin, Putin, and whoever Medvedev would say.
    Don’t compare, but at the same time there was no one better than Putin and he, unlike Zyuganov (who was frightened in 1996 and leaked his voters, speaking figuratively “into the toilet”), is not afraid to take responsibility.
    Crimea is excellent proof of this.


    As for the terminology in the designation of their political preferences (liberalism, patriotism, socialism, etc.), each of these terms and their meaning is understood in its own way, because there is no 100% liberal or 100% communist. periods of time under the same liberalism was understood completely different. And for example, the adherent of 19th-century liberalism in Russia is closer to today's patriots and the adherent of modern liberalism in the same 19th century would be attributed to pure Westerners. In our time, they can be attributed to liberal fascists, which can be eloquently judged by their misanthropic statements regarding the victims of Odessa and Donbass.

    Regarding Putin’s liberalism, both his statements and actions show that he is a classic 19th-century liberal who from the West only wanted technologies and put these technologies into the development of Russia, while preserving our culture, traditions and foundations.

    By the way, those same amendments to the Constitution are aimed at preserving the foundations and sovereignty of Russia.

    As for the sensational amendment, Tereshkova, it does not automatically make Putin president after 2024, but only gives him the right to stand for election. But whether his people will choose or not is another matter.

    Or does the author want to refuse and restrict the people in the right to choose the one whom he wants to see as the head of the country?

    Who is afraid of Putin and the fact that the people will choose Putin?

    Someone Navalny is in the form of God on the icon, someone Putin is infallible. And someone a realist and does not consider one or the other is infallible and only votes for because he did not like those bastards and snakes that the West pulled out in 2011 to replace them with Putin.
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 June 2020 08: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: lopvlad
      As for the terminology in the designation of their political preferences (liberalism, patriotism, socialism, etc.)

      -------------------------------
      After reading Lenin, Stalin, and Trotsky, I concluded for myself that the matter was the low general culture of the population, which was peasant three or four generations ago and had a very low and vague idea of ​​urban and, especially, political culture. The efforts of the USSR to draw the population to a higher cultural level were too small in time, only two or three generations. It was precisely the petty-bourgeois utilitarian household culture that was missing, the Russian man had too few things that he still cannot saturate with consumption with pleasure. When a Russian person realizes that he is not a consumer, but a creator person, then we will move on. In the meantime, today is Logan, tomorrow is Volks, the day after tomorrow Merces, made by other people, it will be so.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 18 June 2020 09: 18 New
        +5
        I concluded for myself that the matter is the low general culture of the population, which was peasant three or four generations ago and had a very low and vague idea of ​​urban and, especially, political culture.
        .... Remember: In the small world, the screaming bubble “Go away-go away” was invented, the song “Bricks” was written and the pants of the “Predpri” style were built. In a big world, people are driven by the desire to do good to humanity. The small world is far from such high matters. The inhabitants of this world have one desire - to somehow live without feeling hunger. ... At the Drozdovo station there were six times less Komsomol members than the other two combined, and at the Vorobyovo station there were 12 more party members than at the Grachevo station. On this last non-party there were 6 more people than on the first two. How many employees were at each station and what was the party and Komsomol layer there? I. Ilf E. Petrov -Golden calf ... In 1991, this small world still defeated the Big One and continues to develop today, moreover, it is growing stronger ...
      2. lopvlad
        lopvlad 18 June 2020 11: 09 New
        -5
        Quote: Altona
        what is the matter in low general culture of the population


        a parish free school with its 4 classes of instruction allowed the vast majority of peasants to read and count perfectly. At that time, peasants and workers of a "civilized" Europe were overwhelmingly illiterate.
        If it were the other way around, it would be useless to print Iskra and other leaflets if the electorate to whom they were intended would not be able to read.
        1. Far B
          Far B 18 June 2020 12: 02 New
          +3
          Yes, pull up the equipment already, in the end. The peasants - the Socialist Revolutionary electorate, what does the "Spark" have to do with it? And the peasantry was extremely apolitical, only the First World War rocked the peasants, where they could not understand why they were being forced to die.
        2. Altona
          Altona 18 June 2020 12: 22 New
          +5
          Quote: lopvlad
          parish free school with its 4 classes

          -------------------
          My grandfather, father, mother, had only 2 classes of central vocational schools, and he was able to end the war with a foreman and replace an officer. Then he was a deputy of the village council. But he was always proud not of some material acquisitions, but of the fact that his children and grandchildren had higher and secondary special education. Only the aunt, the elder sister of the mother, did not have a normal education, since she had to work in the field and at the elevator to help her father.
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 18 June 2020 07: 39 New
    -10
    Author:
    Roman Skomorokhov - well then it’s understandable))) whose epic))) calling Putin Liberal))) in what place is the liberal then?)) Only the author’s next inventions and no more!
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 10: 17 New
      -4
      Liberals calls GDP a dictator. The Communists are a liberal. Truth, as always, is in the middle.
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 18 June 2020 07: 46 New
    +2
    June 1 .... June 27, 2019 In anticipation of the GXNUMX summit, Vladimir Putin answered questions from representatives of The Financial Times: editor Lionel Barber and head of the Moscow bureau Henry Foy.
    Then there is the modern so-called liberal idea, which, in my opinion, has simply completely outlived itself completely. Regarding some of its elements, our Western partners admitted that some of its elements are simply unrealistic: multiculturalism there and so on. That's when the problem of migration began, many recognized that yes, unfortunately, this does not work, and we should remember the interests of the indigenous population. (From the website of the President of the Russian Federation)
    http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/60836
    2 And what began here !!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-48805325
    3.Then followed by an explanation of his words to himself
    • Putin is again talking about imposing liberalism. Compare quotes October 2, 2019

    in plenary meeting of the Russian Energy Week. The moderator of the discussion reminded him that in a June interview, he predicted the end of liberal democracy and predicted the end of the Western way of life and the Western way of doing business.
    Putin did not agree with this interpretation of his words.
    "This is a wrong, very free interpretation of what I said. This is the interpretation of those who want to think that we want to build our policies in this way. I did not say what you said out loud. There wasn’t that! Where did you get this?" - the Russian president was indignant (quoted by Interfax).
    How does Putin suggest understanding what he said in an interview? And what is wrong with such an interpretation?
    "I said in an interview with the Financial Times that the liberal model has no right to dominate and does not have the right to believe that it is the only true model in the world, that the world is much more diverse. One model cannot be imposed on everyone," Putin explained. https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-49908687
    It can be seen that GDP is looking for a new path for Russia and its place in the stormy world. Its Russian path .. And there are many other signs.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 18 June 2020 08: 02 New
      12
      Quote: To be or not to be
      It can be seen that GDP is looking for a new path for Russia and its place in the stormy world. Its Russian path ..

      And then where does he row, if he has only been looking for a path for 20 years?
      1. Far B
        Far B 18 June 2020 08: 30 New
        +7
        Where-where ... For myself. You are like small children, by golly
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 18 June 2020 10: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: To be or not to be
      It can be seen that GDP is looking for a new path for Russia and its place in the stormy world

      there is a Chinese proverb that translates something like this: - God forbid you look for new ways
  • rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 18 June 2020 07: 57 New
    15
    It has long been said that Putin is the same Eltsin, only sober, a liberalist, but a very cunning liberalist
  • parusnik
    parusnik 18 June 2020 08: 11 New
    +8
    It was not Putin who created the system, it was the system that created it, back in 1991. This system is managed by Putin, and not by her. This system is beneficial for him to remain in power. Let us recall the Soviet period, the sunset, L.I. Brezhnev. The guy was tired of the burden, he didn’t want to resign, they say Lenya, don’t leave us, we’ll kind of ruin the country then .. He didn’t leave, and when he died, the country began to fall ... and fell apart. They began to build a new Russia, so that It would fall apart, and not develop, on the principle: in which regiment they served. I hope you are a Cyril man? and the West will help us ...... What son, did your Poles help you? In the sanctions, Russia by and large I don’t want, and for some reason I don’t see the West’s desire to make Russia a second China for how many years. The system was created in order to be headed by a person who correctly and almost equally distributed the country's resources among a certain circle of people that you wouldn’t particularly fight. For example, remember the “seven-bankers?” Here is the new president among her who put things in order ... began to divide in fairness ... This is for you, this is for you again ... As one plumber said, you need to change the system, but not a crane ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 June 2020 08: 43 New
      +9
      Quote: parusnik
      This system is beneficial

      --------------------
      As long as there will be autocracy in all forms, at least monarchical, even tyrannical, it will be so. We need a flexible change of power with a change or adjustment of a public project, and not a "fluctuation of the general line." For some reason, we get the accession of a certain group for a rather long time.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 10: 15 New
      -7
      Lenka at the end of his life and did not rule, he was already a semi-vegetable on tranquilizers. They ruled because of his broad back.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 18 June 2020 10: 47 New
        0
        Here it is not necessary so disparagingly about my namesake. For several times, it’s not for you to carry suitcases to Small Earth. The heart attack was again. Then the improvised tribune at a meeting with the factory workers collapsed. This does not add all health. And by the way, there were no homeless people and beggars in the country.
        Now let's see today ...
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 11: 31 New
          +6
          You see, Brezhnev was a very good person, personally brave, responsive to people. But as a statesman, alas. Too soft. And the foundations of corruption, unfortunately, were laid precisely under him, and not under Khrushchev, as many people think. Shchelokov, Rashidov and the like. And at the end of his life, he really became the leader of the nominal, convenient for the gray cardinals. Why, and his attempts to go on a well-deserved rest were rejected. I feel sorry for him, purely humanly, but I feel sorry for the country even more.
          1. Far B
            Far B 18 June 2020 12: 04 New
            +5
            Here I agree with you, although usually we are on opposite sides of the Internet barricades
    3. lopvlad
      lopvlad 18 June 2020 11: 15 New
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      This is for you, this is for you again


      it remains to unravel the mystery of a wallet with a hole in the 90s swollen up to zero into a cup in the form of the National Welfare Fund and reserve fund, remembering that in the zero years Russia actually repaid all the debts of the USSR and Russia of the 90s.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 18 June 2020 08: 34 New
    12
    As you see, all the people from the "cage", no one was left without a place, with Zurabov it’s not clear where he is now. But did we feel good in terms of medicine? Yes, just great, and the pandemic only confirmed it.
    The most recent example, the former governor of the Arkhangelsk region, Orlov, who was removed because his rating was already zero, among the local population, after Shyessa and the "sheluponi". And well, yesterday they appointed the director general of one of our largest shipyards, Severnaya Verf, in St. Petersburg. This is the one that frigates 22350 is building! It’s not clear why the old leader, Ponomarev, didn’t like it, there were no scandals behind him at this post. And so how Orlov there now will fix everything, it's scary to think
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 18 June 2020 09: 08 New
      +6
      And so how Orlov there now will fix everything, it's scary to think
      .... For this, they set it up so that it would "fix" laughing ... And the former governor, is he a shipbuilder? In real life or in the shower? laughing
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 18 June 2020 08: 39 New
    -6
    Shootings are not enough? Well, there they are in China, no use. Nothing that executions are very difficult to stop?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 June 2020 09: 05 New
      10
      Quote: EvilLion
      Well, there they are in China, no use

      How can you judge the sense if you can’t banally compare, as it would be without executions? belay
      Given the eastern mentality, and examples from the history of China, without executions they would have stolen a thousand times more.
  • bandabas
    bandabas 18 June 2020 08: 42 New
    11
    The ex-prime minister has the most interesting post. They took and created, but it was necessary to attach a person somewhere. For what is responsible, it is not clear. Lepota.
    1. Far B
      Far B 18 June 2020 09: 42 New
      +4
      Well, he needs to sleep somewhere, why are you so ruthless to the teddy bear ...
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 18 June 2020 09: 27 New
    0
    After Brezhnev’s death, the temptation to copy the Chinese model was great. But looking at China, where the influence of power diminished, where banks began to play the main role, commercial companies, where the slogan was “walk carefully through the river, feeling the legs of your feet; they said it wouldn’t work out. they couldn’t, because many ideas are coming from below, and the connection has already been lost. But living in the old way was unbearable. They gave the go-ahead and carte blanche for building a new state according to the patterns of America. Someone began to live better, someone not. Gradually, ownership is lost people with the state. Ordinary people do not trust the financial system, and therefore do not participate in it. Or capitalism, and comply with all the rules of a capitalist society. Or do an analysis of the existing society. But in any case, do not lose touch with the people.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 18 June 2020 10: 13 New
      +2
      In turn, the Chinese model is Kosygin-Liberman reforms supplemented and adapted to local conditions, which Deng Xiaoping began to implement.
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 18 June 2020 11: 20 New
      0
      Quote: nikvic46
      But looking at China, where the influence of power decreased, where banks, commercial companies began to play the main role


      and the guys like Jack Ma don’t know about it, who recently voiced that how the CCP will decide so he will do so.
    3. Altona
      Altona 18 June 2020 12: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: nikvic46
      After Brezhnev’s death, the temptation to copy the Chinese model was great.

      -------------------------
      The USSR had the drawback that, contrary to declarations, there were "privileged groups," that is, a nomenclature erroneously called the "elite." The presence of such groups can immediately bring down the socio-economic model into feudalism, which is what happened. Trotsky and Mao spoke about this at the time. The time of the mobilization model with the costs of having a clumsy bureaucracy has passed, but they failed to create a flexible cooperative socially true socialist model. Both China and Russia had to integrate into the American-centric model with markets, multinational companies, with the Fed dollar and other costs.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 18 June 2020 09: 29 New
    +4
    The Security Council Secretary noted that they steal most of all in the national projects “Safe and high-quality highways” ...
    I note that in our Omsk region the roads are traditionally built by Armenians, every year, the same, in the sense of the road smile How long will they build in Armenian in Russia?
  • Million
    Million 18 June 2020 09: 39 New
    +8
    Impunity breeds irresponsibility. This is a side effect of liberalism.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 18 June 2020 09: 44 New
    -4
    Quote: parusnik
    sovereignty so far only enough for amendments
    ... That is, Russia currently has limited sovereignty? .. If so, who limited it ...?

    Partnership nomenclature and the elite in 1991 ...
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 18 June 2020 09: 50 New
    +2
    Bullshit is everything. The author first focuses on words.

    And it has long been said - Judge for matters.

    And on business: this is not liberalism. This is the PZHV or model of the African Lifelong Presidency. (without costumes from leopards, true) on the remnants of the white USSR. (which helps so far)

    By the way: The Dark Lord from time to time called himself a nationalist. Maybe something like that, I didn’t attend.
    And: The Dark Lord is the only one who does anything. And he knows how, there is a team, there are connections, there is hatred and envy from the others ....

    Conclusion? Each has its own, alas ....
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 18 June 2020 09: 55 New
    +7
    "Judge for yourself.
    The prosecutor general’s office gives 2,5 thousand violations of the law. This is at least 2,5 thousand guilty. And since there could have been a group, and by prior conspiracy ... Well, even in the minimum configuration, 2,5 thousand cases.
    Question: where are they? Where are the high-profile investigations, landings, huge fines? "

    An article in the topic. "The Prosecutor General's Office has identified the most corrupt regions of Russia"
    https://news.mail.ru/incident/42231056/?frommail=1
    The level of corruption in Moscow is less than in Mordovia.
    Judge for yourself. wink
  • Slavs
    Slavs 18 June 2020 09: 58 New
    +5
    I am for confiscation to the third knee with both hands .... The thieves.
  • AleBors
    AleBors 18 June 2020 10: 11 New
    +6
    Liberalism, only the name. The essence is somewhat different. Alas, power agents and outright saboteurs are in power. Plus a large cohort of co -akers and incompetent personalities. Such a team will bury any good intentions. And the GDP knows this, because it values ​​people only by personal devotion. And now I'm sure that this is all a choreographed farce. The Supreme takes out some projects, everyone happily takes them under the visor, the population no less joyfully rubs his hands, finally, but in reality no one was going to implement all the projects. This is just a show for the plebs ... like Malakhov and others ... Alas ... request
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 18 June 2020 11: 55 New
      +2
      Such a team will bury any good intentions.

      I do not agree. They have no good intentions towards the people. There is an intention - to fill your pocket. and walk on it so that no one bothers.
      1. AleBors
        AleBors 18 June 2020 12: 06 New
        +2
        Good. Good word forgot to quote hi
  • mag nit
    mag nit 18 June 2020 10: 17 New
    +1
    Zeroing should take place at the Kremlin wall.
    1. Vol50
      Vol50 18 June 2020 14: 14 New
      +1
      “People, believing that the new ruler will turn out to be better, willingly rebel against the old, but soon they are convinced by experience that they were deceived, because the new ruler is always worse than the old.” Niccolo Machiavelli, Italian philosopher, writer, politician. Ukraine is a lesson to you.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 18 June 2020 10: 34 New
    0
    Zurabov died in my opinion.
  • Variant
    Variant 18 June 2020 11: 13 New
    +4
    I agree with the author, the good king and the evil boyars - this has already passed. The king either cannot or does not want to.
  • cradle
    cradle 18 June 2020 11: 28 New
    0
    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Steam locomotive factories (in those years the construction of locomotives, as now the aviation industry) are weapons. The auto industry was born. So that is not really plow.

    Not really soha-determining. Such a half-bitch
  • KSVK
    KSVK 18 June 2020 11: 43 New
    -1
    Quote: Sea Cat
    There is only one means - a machine gun

    No way a machine gun. If only the citizens are self-loading.
    Quote: Sea Cat
    but a better landing division.

    Not 1 division, but somewhere around 38.
    And not landing, but "interior"
    And not against the authorities, but ... sad
  • Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 18 June 2020 11: 52 New
    +2
    Another article by Roman about Putin and liberalism. It does not make sense to analyze specifically: as always, Roman, the “political scientist,” has too much to cover. I can only say that on some issues, Roman is absolutely right (in which he completely agree and agree with him), on others - doubtful, on some - completely wrong.
    Looks like the radical wing of the Military Review cheers-patriots has big problems with a specialist who expresses their ideas, since they attacked a good journalist-historian, but NOT a specialist political scientist-expert. It is a pity, Roman as a political scientist is NOT convincing. And sometimes it is very similar to the horses of the Ukrainian Maidan: the same youthful maximalism, when you take it out and put everything all at once and immediately!
    1. brat07
      brat07 21 June 2020 05: 01 New
      +1
      I agree with your opinion.
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 18 June 2020 11: 53 New
    +5
    How can one not believe that liberalism is to blame for everything?

    No, Roman. This is CAPITALISM. Everything else is derivative! And your "Dark Lords" and "The Most Serene with the Darkest" and homo with lezbie and bribes and the purchase of the law and impunity, etc. etc. what is bad.
  • Selevc
    Selevc 18 June 2020 11: 54 New
    0
    Liberalism in Russia is impunity and freedom for the rich and new requisitions and social shackles for the poor ... Liberalism, it can be different, and for some people it’s free to choose the rubbish dump where liberalism also delves ...

    I think that Putin himself is not so hot what a great manager - he is more like a diligent performer ... He fulfills the precepts of his protege Chubais - so to speak, introduces ALL THIS to life !!!.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 18 June 2020 12: 01 New
    -2
    A clever article that accurately talks about what professionalism, honesty, decency are in high chairs. Based on the article, the complete absence thereof. And the failed state of domestic policy in the country, in particular the economy, personnel, welfare, social, legal equality only emphasizes this. Swamp, rotten and foul-smelling.
  • Altona
    Altona 18 June 2020 12: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: lopvlad
    guys like Jack Ma

    --------------------------------
    Jack Ma seems to me to be a self-sufficient character, at least in his interviews he suggests that Ali Baba’s platform should be transformed from an online supermarket to a platform for people’s cooperation, where people will not look for goods, but objects for creativity.
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 18 June 2020 12: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: Far In
    in violation of the Constitution

    which one of?...
    and formally and realistically, there are two of them in Russia.
    Moreover, the fight is not formally accepted and violating the violation is nonsense.
    Yes, and in the remake continuous violations and contradictions.
    But in fact, with the existing system, it performs the function of a “philkina letter”, and they will do what they need. There is no legality of adoption and there is no legality of supervision and enforcement.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 18 June 2020 13: 20 New
    0
    The percentage of completed projects is horribly low, more than half of the projects completed less than 20%. In general, the effectiveness of the implementation of state programs in itself was called into question.



    “According to the national project“ Digital Economy ”, only 15% of the 108 billion rubles allocated for this year have been spent. According to the national project "Ecology", only a quarter has been spent. "

    Percentage of Execution national projects 91.4% :
    15.01.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX Ministry of Finance of Russia:

    The expenditures planned in the federal budget of 2019 for national projects were implemented on 91,4% This is stated in preliminary data circulated by the Ministry of Finance.
    It follows from them that a little more than 2019 trillion rubles were spent on thirteen national projects in 1,6, with a plan of 1,75 trillion. The maximum was the execution of the national project "Science" - 99,1% (spent 37,6 billion rubles).

    National project "Culture" is 99% complete (14 billion rubles),
    "Health" - 98% (157,1 billion rubles).
    Demography "- by 95,5%

    In the West, interest is lower ....
  • Vol50
    Vol50 18 June 2020 14: 07 New
    +3
    The state does not exist to build Paradise on earth, but to ensure that society does not finally slide into Hell. Nikolai Berdyaev. It is easy to argue that the authorities did not, but did not do much. Nikita Khrushchev said that the current generation will live with communism! Gorbachev promised that by the year 2000 everyone would have a separate apartment. So what? The king is made by the retinue, and who is the retinue? The same nomenclature and another is not foreseen. Lord read F. Engels Origin of the family, private property and the state. I. Stalin fought for 15 years with the 5th column, and how many soldiers of the Red Army went over to Hitler, and not only the soldiers? Any system is not perfect, the question is what you personally did to improve it. "The merit of the strategist is the adoption of reasonable decisions, and those who voluntarily risk their lives win the battle." Hyperid (Greek speaker and politician student of Plato). In Russia there have always been, are and will be heroes, regardless of authority. Those for whom the word Motherland is not an empty phrase. "To talk about your love for the Motherland is the same as to say that the water is wet and the milk is white. They serve the homeland, compassion for the homeland, they die for the homeland, but only a person who is deeply indifferent can talk about love for her. Love is an action, not words, but if love is words, then this is false love. ”Boris Vasiliev (writer, war veteran).
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  • flicker
    flicker 18 June 2020 16: 14 New
    -4
    Good article! The right article. Convinced !!! bully

    July 1, I go and vote for the amendments! bully
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 18 June 2020 17: 47 New
    -2
    Why is liberal Putin all too liberal?


    And what was to be like with the protégé and heir to Boris Yeltsin?
  • candidate
    candidate 18 June 2020 18: 02 New
    0
    ... stories meaning in parallels
    What was and is in manifestations ...
  • Molox
    Molox 18 June 2020 18: 11 New
    -4
    Why is liberal Putin all too liberal?

    "our fifth column" has changed a training manual ..? It used to be called "bloody regime, etc." laughing
    It is ridiculous to read all these attempts and cries of "some comrades" ..
    Quote: Far In
    Putinism, I have already said, leads Russia to the state of a banana republic in its classical sense. Actually, already brought.

    Bravo laughing bully And in the 90s under the constitution of the fifth EBN we were the most democratic and prosperous country ..? Kashchenko straight rolled over in a coffin ..
    How tired I am of reading this nonsense and screaming .. I don’t like it. Don’t vote. What's the problem?
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 19 June 2020 07: 14 New
      -2
      Let them vote, and we put them on a ✏️ pencil ... drinks
    2. surok1
      surok1 19 June 2020 20: 00 New
      0
      The same is not soi liberda!