"There is no longer any Efremov": the actor recorded a video message

The resonant accident with the participation of actor Mikhail Efremov continues to gain momentum and still occupies the top ranks of the rating News Russian media. Waking up and departing from the consequences of using the "fervent" actor, he expressed condolences to the family of the deceased and promised not to "excuse himself" from the punishment and use his connections for this.

In his video message, Efremov apologized to the family of the deceased due to his fault in the accident Sergey Zakharov, saying that he would help the family of the deceased if she accepts it.

Four days have passed since that damned Monday. I did not know what to say. And now I don’t know how and with what words to ask for forgiveness from the family of Sergei Zakharov. But I still ask. Although I know that they will not forgive

- said the actor.

In his apologies, Efremov said that it is impermissible to drive while intoxicated, especially since this led to the death of a person. At the same time, he emphasizes that he will not use his connections in order to "get away" from punishment.

Yes, and how can you do it when everyone has seen everything. Yes, and I saw when I overslept and walked away from the shock. (...) This is not a movie, you can’t rewind anything. The end, there is no longer anyone Ephraim. I betrayed everyone. Please forgive me. Nothing more to say

- summed up the actor.

Recall that an accident involving drunk Mikhail Efremov occurred on June 8 at Smolenskaya Square in Moscow, when a jeep under his control flew into the oncoming lane, where he crashed into a domestic delivery van, which was driven by Sergey Zakharov. From injuries, Zakharov died in the hospital. An examination revealed the presence in the blood of Efremov, not only alcohol but also drugs.

Comments

[sanek45744]

What will they treat from?

[sanek45744]

What kind of nonsense?)) As for me, you have porridge in your head. Why mix everything up with politics and this accident on the road? And you didn’t give an answer from what it will be treated for.

[Hunter 2]

In my opinion, there is too much attention to this lyceum.
Convict quietly and send out to serve a sentence. I wish the family of the dead to receive the maximum monetary compensation ... the “culprit” has enough money ,,, as well as sincere condolences!

[sanek45744]

Yes, it's all clear. The commentators who write a lot of water are stupid. The man wrote nonsense and cannot answer what he wants.

[Tatyana]

I heard his grateful and repentant speech on the radio this morning! He spoke correctly, but I do not want to listen to his repentance a second time.

He ruined his booze and the life of others and the life of his loved ones!
Shame on him!

And the memory of his father Oleg Efremov, I also very sorry!
He poisoned in people the memory of his famous father - like a son did not save!
And how they looked like each other - and which ones turned out to be different.

Melody of love from the movie "Three Poplars on Plyushchikha". Oleg Efremov.

[KAV]

Quote: Tatiana

He spoke correctly, but I do not want to listen to his repentance a second time.

He says it seems correct, but I did not see sincerity in the intonations and expression of the eyes. There is no compassion that should be with real repentance.
But it’s good that at least I made an appeal. And then, silent as a coward all this time.

[mmaxx]

Yes, he can speak. And the words are good. But how to believe a reincarnation professional?

[Olgovich]

Quote: mmaxx

Yes, he can speak. And the words are good.

Words of remorse he must was to say.

But no one is not obliged to forgive him.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Olgovich

Quote: mmaxx

Yes, he can speak. And the words are good.

Words of remorse he must was to say.

But no one is not obliged to forgive him.

Alcoholism in the creative environment is a fatal misfortune ... Vladimir Vysotsky, Oleg Dal, Oleg Efremov, Basov and the Younger Galkin. This is only a small fraction of surnames ... artists, singers, writers' brothers .... Premature deaths, family grief, broken fates ... And in this case also someone else's death from the holidays of the younger Efremov .... He drank himself to the green snot. ...

[Olgovich]

Quote: 30 vis

Alcoholism in the creative environment is a fatal misfortune ... Vladimir Vysotsky, Oleg Dal, Oleg Efremov, Basov and the Younger Galkin. This is only a fraction of the names ... artists, singers, writers' brothers .... Premature deaths, family grief, broken destinies

It's like that!

But they did not take someone else's life, in any case, clearly

[Sergo go]

nobody owes anything to anyone, the law is the law for all

[Kadum]

Quote: mmaxx

Yes, he can speak. And the words are good. But how to believe a reincarnation professional?

Yes, he still didn’t move away from drugs, and he still sniffed the bastard.
I would not be surprised if he was on his knees and like "there will be a suicide attempt, etc." ..Such "comrades" are good for everything if the dose does not shine for them ..
Eh Ephraim, played yourself and hold the next role for five years!
You will go out "you will play thieves in law" ....

[tech3030]

He just plays another role.

[sabakina]

Tatyana, I put you the pluses simply because the verb in the case! And let me be minded, I won’t get away from it!

"There is no longer any Efremov"

NO! There was, is, and will be Oleg Efremov!



I remember only the roles in M. Efremiy's films "Saboteur" and "When I become a giant".

[Tatyana]

Quote: sabakina

There was, is, and will be Oleg Efremov!

And from the Soviet films with the participation of OLEG Efremov, I really like the feature film "Three Poplars on Plyushchikha".
The absolutely brilliant directorial work of Tatyana Leoznova, and the equally brilliant game of Soviet actors - does not leave indifferent people, any generation.

[aviator6768]

At most - 5. Will leave, how much under the law ...... Guilty !! Will answer! All the defenders - on the frontal place (what, saints?) ... the video (apologies) is not bad (if sincere, I’m behind the bear !, but let him sit out), I’ll meet if it happens ...

[NIKN]

They will put him in prison, there is no place to go, that the drunk and everything else is not a secret, but here it is more interesting how all this "elite bohemia" shows its "face", many of them for me are not only as artists but also as people to The concept of unacceptable (this is mild) for attention to them began to be treated, It is right, everything here and climbs out of them and the level of attitude towards people "not of their circle", and the intellect is real de facto ... Sadly, all this is true. :(

[aviator6768]

Yes, not you and I ... Must sit! How many are there - from 5 to seven ... Let him sit !! But then, Bear - well, you know .... he’s not a bastard ... talk ... there are just drunks. he is not like that ... I repeat - he will sit (waved, hold on!)

[krot]

The right thing to do. Although it’s what the majority did in such situations .. Of course, Efremov doesn’t whitewash this, but as a man he at least admitted honestly.

[aviator6768]

Admitted! Grand Cherokee - not a heel, everyone understands ... Bukh was in the trash ... Guilty, everyone is clear ... But why bother? Norm a Russian peasant ... What, we don’t drink, or do not drive behind the wheel of 1 ppm? (Openly answer yourself ...) Must sit !! Once caught ... Mukhael - well, hold on !!

[Dangerous]

Maximum cash compensation? How much is not more. And then the widow of her husband did not have time to bury, as soon as she ran to the TV set to Malakhov, to take out the garbage from the hut for money

[Kadum]

Quote: Hunter 2

In my opinion, there is too much attention to this lyceum.
Convict quietly and send to serve a sentence.

He pronounced his own sentence "Mishka Efremov is no more, Panin is also going to sit with him .." ..
It's time to clean up these "drug addicts" in show business ..
Already tired of the youth and because they look at them ..

[sanek45744]

Do you answer the question or can you just write agitation to the cheers of the patriot?

[Kadum]

Quote: sanek45744

Do you answer the question or can you just write agitation to the cheers of the patriot?

There are too many questions and drawbacks from your pack .... I don’t have time
Bite from all sides)))

Quote: sanek45744

Yes, it's all clear. The commentators who write a lot of water are stupid. The man wrote nonsense and cannot answer what he wants.

Answer you, right away, you start kicking in the crowd .. And you won't let me say a word, however, like so many here! Run to complain ..

[sanek45744]

You come on without insults. You write about zones, I must know how to conduct conversations.
ahah, so I say that you can only write your own nonsense. but how to start asking you, I immediately moved out. And the thing is that I can put you on the shelves that you are wrong and you are not, that’s the whole difference.

[bk316]

And the thing is that I can put you on the shelves that you are wrong and you are not, that’s the whole difference.

Well, I can answer.
On the one hand, you are right. There is no need to mix politics and criminal.

On the other hand, it’s Ephraim’s friends and relatives who are already mixing it, and the KGB mixed in the droplets and the guilty one is guilty that he didn’t put a separation order and the GDP did not introduce a prohibition.

In my opinion, if we talk about the crime, everything is clear - a dumbfounded drunk killed a man.
But if about the reasons, then there is a political motive. Some stratum believes that everything is possible for her and nothing will happen to her, no matter what they do. These are not only "movie and theater stars", but also "stars on epaulettes" and "business stars". This is probably how it was and will be in Russia. It is essential for me that of the listed only company e teaches us to live. Where did you see FSB generals or oligarchs gather a crowd and arrange shows on the topic of Russian cattle and a bloody state? This simple thought should be conveyed to them. If you want to teach people, learn to love the Motherland.

[DVR]

Which one, this one?

What will they treat from?

Why is it incomprehensible? Why are criminals generally restricted in their freedom? In order to re-educate, of course, so that it would be disgraceful for a person to break the law. Which is essentially an attempt to cure. And also, that his illegal actions and immoral behavior does not harm other people.

Why mix everything up with politics and this accident on the road?

Man himself has politicized his activities, and therefore such a resonance. After all, he was the main accuser of vices of the current government. The accuser must a priori be crystal clear, and reproaching himself as a snickering drug addict and alcoholic is doubly immoral.

[snake]

Quote: Hunter 2

In my opinion, there is too much attention to this lyceum.

Wow people have something to do before the 24th. And there is already a Parade. Then - the vote.

Quote: Hunter 2

I wish the family of the deceased to receive the maximum monetary compensation ...

I would like to believe that the family of the deceased will not, as usual, monetize their grief and wander about "Malakhovs". But of course there should be compensation. Now it will be difficult without the head of the family.
And let Efremov sit longer.

[Tatyana]

I heard on the radio his grateful and penitent speech! He spoke correctly, but I do not want to listen to his repentance a second time.

He ruined his and other people's lives and the lives of his loved ones!
Shame on him!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tatiana

I heard on the radio his grateful and penitent speech! He spoke correctly, but I do not want to listen to his repentance a second time.

Tatyana, ask yourself a simple question that lies on the surface ... AND WHY IS THIS VIDEO TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY? He through lawyers could not convey help to the Zakharov family, and appeal to them?
WHY IS THE PUBLICITY OF THE "REPENTED EFREMOV TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY?"
People wanted to hear repentance, they were waiting for it and they got it, PUBLIC, THEATER AND EXPECTED, BUT LATE. It was in order for the "repented Efremov" to receive at least some support and, as it were, an understanding of his personal grief, and this video was cobbled together.
The question voiced by me above removes any claim to the sincerity and honesty of Efremov, a priori.

[Tatyana]

Quote: NEXUS

WHY IS THIS VIDEO TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY? He through lawyers could not convey help to the Zakharov family, and appeal to them?

On the radio, it did NOT seem to me that Mikhail Efremov spoke NOT sincerely.
He understood everything, what story he got into and that he lost himself as a person and as an artist. He already tried to commit suicide at home. Did not work out.
What about the video? So these are close to him tools of self-expression in his artistic profession. This is clear.
In addition, it may be that the lawyer also recommended this technique to him. Sincere confession and remorse may reduce his sentence for a fatal accident while drunk driving.

As for those who have already supported him, this is, for example, Ksenia Sobchak, who herself sometimes was drunk in firewood.
Bomond, after all, has now become very rich in Russia — and he is burning his life! Friends and strangers. Not everyone has a healthy mind!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Tatiana

He already tried to commit suicide at home. Did not work out.

He did not try anything. This is a lie! The trace on the neck that is supposedly from the rope is actually a trace from the seat belt in the car. Watch the video after the accident, this trace is very clearly visible there.

Quote: Tatiana

What about the video? So these are close to him tools of self-expression in his artistic profession. This is clear.

And where is the artistic expression? The question is simple. Why the whole country is so played up and so late? Moreover, a person who has repented, is in a state of emotional, spiritual death, while under investigation, is not able to speak so clearly and without hesitation!
Why did he personally the Zakharov family, as soon as he slept and sobered did not send PERSONAL REPENTANCE, not publicly, not to the whole country?

[Tatyana]

Quote: NEXUS

He did not try anything. This is a lie! T

It was reported on the radio that he was trying to commit suicide, already being under HOME arrest, at home after the trial. He had a strong nervous excitement, and his family called an ambulance several times home.
Details did not say.

[Arthur 85]

On the radio? Kapets ... I see two ways out if he really is a man. The first - everyone knows, the second - to go into voluntary life-long self-isolation, for example, in a monastery. And on the radio, it means that he was sick, and remained.

[sanek45744]

Well, make me love my homeland. scarecrow do not say that which you cannot do. hahahaah here he is a patriot cheers. don’t say that you can’t do it, the second lesson but everything about the camps here told us.

[Uncle Izya]

Addiction, alcoholism and drug addiction

[sanek45744]

There they do not cure this from the word at all.

[Uncle Izya]

Well starred, only the star is his father

[minigor]

From drug addiction and alcoholism !!!

[private person]

Well, sculpts in the zone are different))) The main thing is to teach homeland to love!

Have you seen enough movies?

The family of the deceased must sue him ALL !!! To the poor went to the zone

And you yourself should be treated, you’ll have to think up something horrible for yourself. The person is guilty and admit their guilt, and what will be decided by the court.

[private person]

Here the wave of protection went on inter.

You definitely need to be treated. Who is protecting him? Even the most seasoned lawyers refused, guilty 100% must suffer a deserved punishment. The matter is resonant, and here it will not work to release the brakes, but what kind of punishment this other issue will suffer, the article is serious.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Kadum

The main thing is to teach homeland to love!

And what about politics, eccentricity? So like to be like Solovyov-vomit? Efremov killed a man. There are millions of such killings in our country, and throughout the world, and no one is sculpting a dumb cliche of politics towards them.
He condemned himself, or condemned later. Living with thoughts such as the fact that you-killed a person is not easy. Sincerely he repented or played a role, this is the second question.
He destroyed his life, not the life of an artist, but the life of a person. There, in that accident, not one person died, but two. The second is Efremov. He still walks, says, repents, because the body does not yet know that the soul is dead.
But many have forgotten about how many such cases throughout Russia, in which silverfish remained at large, confident in their impunity.
In one video, Nevzorov said, thank God that in Russia, before the law, NOT EVERYONE IS EQUAL, and that’s good. And for me, NEVOSOROVSHINA IS NOT BETTER THAN EFREMOVSCHINA.

[sabakina]

There are millions of such killings in our country, and throughout the world, and no one is sculpting a dumb cliche of politics towards them.

Andrey, whatever one may say, but M. Efremov is a public person. I.V. Stalin was also public, but even in June 1941 he did not go into a bout and did not expand, he simply was silent. It’s just that Efremov was already not only what he had, but not to break into politics.

[sanek45744]

about Stalin can be more detailed, what are the connections!?

[NEXUS]

Quote: sabakina

Andrey, whatever one may say, but M. Efremov is a public person.

Speak publicly ... well, yes. Here is a blogger who celebrated the 17 millionth subscriber, having taken a sip of champagne behind the wheel. Her name is Nastya Ievleva. Who cares, find yourself on the Internet. I do not want to expose this muskrat here. 17 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS! At the same time on the air of her streams, 90 are watching her! thousands of people! And there are not one or two such bloggers in Russia. And she gasped for champagne, got behind the wheel, just on that day of the accident Efremova, about which she already knew and rushed along the highway Moscow-Peter.
What am I saying this ... a person who influences the opinion of 17 million people is not Klava Bulkina from Tmytarakaniy, which no one knows and whose opinion does not interest anyone. This Ievleva, on this cheap and dumb hype on the bones, hopes to celebrate the 18 millionth subscriber. She is a public person who shows to all her subscribers that the law has not been written to her and that there is no a priori anything human in her. And then some fool-subscriber of this Ievleva will crash vodka, drive a car and drive into a bus stop full of people. Just because her idol also drives behind a fly. This is scary!
And the last ... here we are talking about Efremov. Entire articles here also write comments about what kind of talented actor he is (there is nothing talented there). Guys, who knows about Svetlana Onuryeva, a 19-year-old student of a medical school who was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and who quarantined all the time, carried medicines to ordinary people’s homes, worked in the hospital, not sitting at home for a day? AT LEAST SOMETHING HEARD ABOUT HER, GUYS ?! She is already gone. And about her there is not a single article, not a single comment. Because everyone knows about Ephraim and public man, and what they have done. But who is interested in talking about Svetlana? The decision on awarding Svetlana Onurieva with a state award is being considered.

[minigor]

Yes, I heard, and if awarded, it will be right!
But youth is not interested! I want Hypa!
Sad!

[sanek45744]

Are you talking about Stalin or not. Enlighten about him, but I don’t understand what does he have in this topic of conversation

[sanek45744]

Okay, and if it weren’t for Efremov to be in place, let’s say Gazmanov like that?) What will you say?

[minigor]

Because there was no Gazmanov! Because he does not drink at the wheel!

[sanek45744]

Are you sure about this?))) Why say that you don’t know

[minigor]

And also, if my grandmother had h ... n, she would be a grandfather!

[sanek45744]

Ahah, what happens when he said, but there is no evidence, right? They start to write nonsense and loop traces. Everything is clear with you

[4ekist]

That's what vodka brings to ...... We have no culture of consumption, damn it.

[sabakina]

Quote: 4ekist

That's what vodka brings to ...... We have no culture of consumption, damn it.

And who has it? The British? Do North Americans? The Germans?

[4ekist]

They don’t lie drunk on the benches at the porches and they don’t cast onto fences. Again, all the questions are for our legislative and executive branch and the culture of the people.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: 4ekist

They don’t lie drunk on the benches at the porches and they don’t cast onto fences.

Is this a joke?

[4ekist]

So it is, is everything natural? Let’s all suck now .... oh.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: 4ekist

Let’s all suck now .... oh.

So it

Quote: 4ekist

They have

where, in your opinion, no one is lying around.

[4ekist]

Yes, everywhere lying around, let's not go down to discuss the features of national drinking. Speech in an article about M. O. Efremov.

[DVR]

They don’t lie drunk on the benches at the porches and they don’t cast onto fences.

Come on They made us laugh, thanks. This is not in Russia:

[minigor]

By type of service I am around the world! We have no more thumping than anywhere else
still!

[4ekist]

Hold on, comrade!

[minigor]

To whom do you ... well, not for sure!

[Thrifty]

In the wild, he will forget his words instantly, think, is it really I could seriously say? There is no ridge in power, they endure the antics of all kinds of bastards from politics, sports, pseudo-stage, corrupt media. ...

[Yura]

This is not a movie, you can’t rewind anything already. The end, there is no longer anyone Ephraim. I betrayed everyone. Please forgive me. Nothing more to say

You live with it, try.

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Jura

You live with it, try.

in order for him to understand this, one has to become not much of a different person, he said heartily, BUT he is guilty and must sit down! And it is very important that in modern Russia a PRECEDENT will be created for all this "bohemian elite" and it is important that he sat down for the entire period! maybe the rest of the head will inflate that the LAWS in their party also work!

[Yura]

Quote: Tiksi-3

And it is very important that in modern Russia a PRECEDENT will be created for all this "bohemian elite" and it is important that he sat down for the entire period! maybe the rest of the head will inflate that the LAWS in their party also work!

I not only support this, I’d cut off all the ways to mitigate the sentence, moreover, I don’t believe him, knowing that he said this because there’s nowhere to go, if the dead driver survived, this idiot would have killed more than one person, as in his stories before this case, using his own means, connections, people's sympathies in order to otmazatsya.

[Thunderbringer]

Throw you malice.
He is not a fool, he is an alcoholic.
This is a disease that is rarely treatable, such as cancer.
Almost everyone can get it, oddly enough. Neither education, nor mind, nor conscience will help.
It's just that it’s such an impartial, dangerous thing.

[Yura]

Quote: Thunderbringer

Throw you malice.
He is not a fool, he is an alcoholic.

And also a drug addict. Under the influence of all this, a person stands uncertainly on his feet, and a criminal who sat behind the wheel is a priori, if he does not have enough intelligence to understand this. Lack of intelligence, lack of intelligence, idiot. By the way, this expression is much softer than a murderer, like "what to take from him." In general, the situation is very bad, let's imagine he managed to get out, then there was a sea of ​​people indignant at this, and we can only assume that all this would result, if only by hitting cars and assaulting representatives of the bohemian who lost the coast, then this is at best, because that there are many, as many, who want to shake the situation, and those who just want to profit from the turmoil.

[minigor]

You’re sick ...! Heal! Do not want, for God's sake! Do not drive!
Adult man! I had to understand!

[Valery Valery]

Late!! Now just pray and hope that God will forgive.

[rocket757]

Is this news?
Is this interesting to someone?
It is important for the family of the victim, this is understandable, but why should everyone else ???

[rocket757]

We deal with issues of law of application and legality, such as very casual. From this, what can change? What, before in the networks there was no such indignation, on similar occasions? At least something has changed since then?
Such a system of power. For some, she is a mother, for others, an evil stepmother ...
Therefore, it is not interesting that this is ... about anything.

[private person]

It's time to clean up these glamor addicts and drunks and HARD!

A flag in your hands and a drum around your neck. You yourself can only knock protests on the keys while sitting on the couch. Is it weak live? Did you ever get a rubber dabber on the ridge? You can only shout about liberals, but who knows? I’m not, but I know who the United Russia members are. Aren't they the same?

[sabakina]

Victor, you're wrong. If all this is released on the brakes, then all this bohemia will not be like dropping on a platform in limousines (A.B. Pugacheva), but consider yourself to be demigods!

[rocket757]

Bohemia has always loved only itself or itself in admirers!
Folk artists, this was when it was somewhat different.
Now, such as those were, in the afternoon with fire to look for, you will not find!
That is our current reality.

[rocket757]

I am not arguing that "taking out the trash from the hut" cannot help those who have limited opportunities. Defending the truth with the whole world is what I consider to be the achievement of the media and social networks !!!
It helps, but it literally saves someone !!!
But, remember about the "heroes of Kushchevka" .... it was IMPOSSIBLE not to plant them, and then what ??? Those. The SYSTEM does not ensure JUSTICE to the end, and as it should, those who have a lot of dough or connections above the roof, at some stage will still be more to the right / more privileged than those who have none of this!
My opinion is not absolutely true .... just a grumbling old man of a past era and country. Change late, and I don’t want to at all.
In short, this SYSTEM is not mine and I will never accept it.

[DVR]

He said well everything, if this game is not a game of another role. Of course, this should not affect the punishment, which should be proportionate, as for any mortal.

[Ragnar Lodbrok]

I recently watched it directly on TV, you know, it was somehow not sincere, I did not believe in sincere repentance .. I was more convincing in my roles for the fee.

[DVR]

I also can’t believe it at all. Although, I would like it to be sincere ... But this is only a wish.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Kadum

Soon Khodorkovsky will confirm that he was also framed in this way with the murders and will create a support fund "Mikhanov" .. Ugh damn
Soros agrees

what is Meehan, a Freudian clause? how stubborn you are all the same ... now for the blue, now for the red, now for the green ... as grandfather Lenin called it ... oh yes, political prostitution!

[Tatyana Sementsova]

Well, why worry so much !? People also live in prisons! There are also theaters, cinemas! A theater club can be created for killers on a blue !!!! They will give 6 years, and in a couple of years on parole ..... For some time, one drunk driving will be less. But seriously, I do not believe these people! He uses all the connections that are possible and impossible not to sit down !!!!!

[Boris55]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

They will give 6 years, and in a couple of years on parole ...

For a couple of years he was in a psychiatric hospital on "examination", and then there was parole. That's all. By that time, everyone will have forgotten why he was sent there ...

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Boris55

For a couple of years he was in a psychiatric hospital on "examination", and then there was parole. That's all. By that time, everyone will have forgotten why he was sent there ...

well, even if so ?! What do you think, for a public person - oblivion and general contempt, it’s not enough ?!
And second, conscience everyone has (!), and her torture is perhaps stronger than figuratively speaking "get in the face or break a leg". He will have to live to the end of his days with the realization that, through his fault, an innocent person died (!)... you would like that ?!... That's all for sure "sinless"and everyone wants to throw a stone ?! ... This is not an excuse for Efremov (!). Knowing your vices / weaknesses, a man with his wealth, it was possible and necessary to have his sober driver (!), but what happeneddoes not have a reverse flow in time (!)... This simply means that "reveling in the discussion of his guilt, we ourselves risk becoming similar, on evil fliesover a doe with broken ridge"caught in the mouth of a predator (in this case, this allegory, as in the teeth of the law) ...

[Tatyana Sementsova]

Clear. Listening to you - Public people can drink at the wheel, use drugs and kill people ..... In my concept, a public person should be punished several times harder precisely because he is public! Along the way, a public person carries an example in everything ..... And what example did we emphasize from this person now?

[APASUS]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

6 years will give, and in a couple of years on parole .....

Submit for parole, it is necessary to serve 2/3 of the term
I feel sorry for him as a lost person, but does not cause regret at all, as a representative of our bohemia, snickering .................

[sanek45744]

Apparently you don’t know much. It all depends on the amount of cache. How to sit, where to sit and when to go out.

[APASUS]

Quote: sanek45744

Apparently you don’t know much. It all depends on the amount of cache. How to sit, where to sit and when to go out.

I wrote as it should be, now there are too many eyes in this matter. I think I'm afraid, although after Serdyukov and his female battalion, I won’t be surprised

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Tatiana Sementsova

They will give 6 years, and in a couple of years on parole ..... For some time, one drunk driving will be less.

Check out:
https://www.1tv.ru/news/2010-08-17/142579-v_irkutske_vynesen_prigovor_zhenschine_sbivshey_na_trotuare_dvuh_prohozhih
After the case of the MINOBORONSERVICE, I had no doubt that
THE RUSSIAN COURT - "THE MOST HUMANOUS COURT IN THE WORLD" ...
Remember the death of M.S. Evdokimov ...
But you never know? Unfortunately, in the country there are too many people who have a driver’s license, obtained without taking into account the presence of a citizen’s (ability to) drive a vehicle.

[knn54]

They will give five years. Perhaps half (maximum) of the term can and will serve.
Time cures.

[sabakina]

Quote: knn54

They will give five years. Perhaps half (maximum) of the term can and will serve.
Time cures.

Not always. At times, it cripples beyond recognition. Lord God however ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

Artists do not have faith, it is professional for them to grimace at the camera and make speeches. If he really worries like that, then let him rewrite all the state and property to the family of the person he killed to the last penny. Only then will it be possible to believe in the sincerity of the repentance and regret of Ephraim.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

If he really worries like that, then let him rewrite all the state and property to the family of the person he killed to the last penny.

Do you really think that mercantile interests should be above grief from the loss of a loved one?
For most, it is important that the punishment of the offender (otherwise I can’t call Efremov) was not adequate for material losses (by what measures is this ???), but consistent with that mental pain, the grief that only time heals.
Remember in the Voroshilov Arrow:

That is how some people relate to the "farmers."

[martin-159]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Artists do not have faith, it is professional for them to grimace at the camera and make speeches. If he really worries like that, then let him rewrite all the state and property to the family of the person he killed to the last penny. Only then will it be possible to believe in the sincerity of the repentance and regret of Ephraim.

What a stupid thing!

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: martin-159

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Artists do not have faith, it is professional for them to grimace at the camera and make speeches. If he really worries like that, then let him rewrite all the state and property to the family of the person he killed to the last penny. Only then will it be possible to believe in the sincerity of the repentance and regret of Ephraim.

What a stupid thing!

Continue to believe the hypocrite and the liberalist. A flag in your hands, a drum around your neck, and a train to meet you!

[martin-159]

And who told you that I believed Efremov? I called stupidity monetization of remorse. How would I pay, then repented?

[bober1982]

His words are respected, it turns out that the person is not lost at all, and maybe he only begins a real life.

[Boris55]

Quote: bober1982

maybe he’s just starting a real life.

God speaks to each of us in the language of our life circumstances. God gave Ephraim a chance to return to the channel of His providence, and now only envy will be from him, whether he hears His voice or persists in his frenzy.

[Terenin]

Quote: Boris55

Quote: bober1982

maybe he’s just starting a real life.

God speaks to each of us in the language of our life circumstances. God gave Ephraim a chance to return to the channel of His providence, and now only envy will be from him, whether he hears His voice or persists in his frenzy.

The only question is what the killer and the victim will put in front:

The Lord is merciful and merciful, patient and full of love (RSP, Psalm 102: 8)

or

Behold, I am coming soon, My retribution is with Me, that I would repay to everyone according to his works (Rev. 22:12)

[bober1982]

Quote: Boris55

God gave Ephraim a chance to return to the line of His providence, and now only envy of him will he heed His voice

That's what I'm talking about.
My regards.

[Guards turn]

Mikhail could be said shorter, had this tragedy not happened - he would have thumped as before.

[sanek45744]

And what happened, what would stop?

[_Sergei_]

If there is an opportunity, he will continue to thump. Game to the public. For me it should sit in full.

[Tomich3]

Such "Ephraim" wagon and cart across the country. I am not making excuses for Efremov, but all of them are so correct, as if no one "by blueprint" got behind the wheel.

[Guards turn]

When a citizen is not allowed into the witchcraft to express his thoughts freely, by a "poet" - this is perceived painfully.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Tomic3

Such "Ephraim" wagon and cart across the country. I am not making excuses for Efremov, but all of them are so correct, as if no one "by blueprint" got behind the wheel.

Never, this is a taboo. Similarly, I can say about my father, wife and most of my friends, even after 0,5 beer no one will sit down

[geologist]

“Don't feel sorry for them,” the chief engineer told me when I went to “grease” my hard worker who had gone into a binge. He gave me a team of more than 100 people to subordinate me, and somehow I wanted people to feel respect and perform miracles at work. Himself practically did not get enough sleep and did not know weekends and holidays, but all my successes were canceled out when in one day and one hour one of my subordinates crashed a brand new car weighing 60 tons, and another injured his hand. From now on, the fate of an armchair dreamer and the easy work of a theoretician awaited me. Several times he hired drunken colleagues out of pity, but they could hold out at most for a month, and then a binge and inevitable dismissal. People who did not take away the rights of this weak-willed sick person in time showed stinging and, possibly, greed, but did not show maturity and professionalism.

[PValery53]

For a murder on a booze - a complete jail time on a sober. His emotions are perishable.

[Eug]

Well, a few days ago I wrote that I hope to hear from Efremov something like public repentance. I'm glad he found the strength to do it. I believe that in the absence of claims from the victims, the maximum suspended sentence is quite realistic. I hope that this tragic event will force Efremov (and other potential "flyers") to rethink and change a lot. He is still a cool actor, his senior lieutenant Plait from the Taiga novel is amazingly played ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Eug

Well, a few days ago I wrote that I hope to hear from Efremov something like public repentance. I'm glad he found the strength to do it. I believe that in the absence of claims from the victims, the maximum suspended sentence is quite realistic. I hope that this tragic event will force Efremov (and other potential "flyers") to rethink and change a lot. He is still a cool actor, his senior lieutenant Plait from the Taiga novel is amazingly played ...

It couldn’t be for killing by booze conditional terms, that he has a wagon of money and so it is clear to everyone, and what happens if a wagon of money can buy indulgence?

[Eug]

Unfortunately, the reality is that human life in some situations acquires a certain equivalent - the same insurance payments in the event (God forbid) of some kind of catastrophe. I do not think that this should reduce the safety requirements of the insured, nevertheless this is a fact ...

[ApJlekuHo]

I believe that in the absence of claims from the victims, the maximum suspended sentence is quite realistic.

The person died, what lack of claims are we talking about? He will be tried for unintentional murder while drunk, and not for the moral torment of relatives.

[Irokez]

There is no justification, but an honest statement is right, repentance and recognition.

[Kadum]

Quote: Irokez

There is no justification, but an honest statement is right, repentance and recognition.

Lawyers and image-makers made all this .. It feels like not sincerely!
And my mother did not forget to mention the bastard ...

[alien]

Quote: Irokez

There is no justification, but an honest statement is right, repentance and recognition.

It's a shame damn for ... Oleg Efremov.
"Watch out for the car"...

[Junior Private]

Now one less Ephraim will be on the road. It is desirable forever and all Ephraim.

[nikvic46]

The main question is: Will there be a lesson learned from this tragedy regarding famous people, major auto hooligans?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: nikvic46

The main question is: Will there be a lesson learned from this tragedy regarding famous people, major auto hooligans?

Of course not. Will not be removed. No chance.

[Gardamir]

He will serve up under house arrest. Then a long trial. Then, taking into account being under investigation. Release from the courtroom.

[Alt 22]

I do not believe him. The drunk killer who has crossed the line must be in prison.

[parusnik]

I woke up, apologized ... This is not the most interesting .... the most interesting will be when the trial begins .... and how long it will last and how much they will give later ... and what will be taken into account when pronouncing the sentence ...

[Campanella]

The situation is tragic. It remains only to sympathize with everyone and the victim's family and the culprit, he will have to carry a difficult load.
On the other hand, a man went to this finale essentially with the approval and support of other people, because a sharp rejection of such a lifestyle could stop him in time. Talented Hypocrisy involves moving along the edge, because the viewer needs an idol who does what he himself will not do, and how the viewer achieves this is usually unknown.
For some reason I remembered
a blogger who is ready for the most crazy deeds for the sake of Like, and indeed look at how many people go for deadly things for approval (like) ...
Man is imperfect. This is a clinical fact, and we live with this reality.
Take even a lot of politicians among them normal people?

[Sviridov777]

The killer jester. Buffoon addict. Took to expose someone, maybe in the case, take care of yourself. A limp, spoiled derivative of a great actor. Disgraced the surname finally. Now she will be remembered as the very one who killed the man, stoned by rubbish. Expected End.
Condolences to the family of the deceased.

[Fishery]

and everything is already, but it was necessary earlier

[geologist]

I don’t even know what is best for him now - to take serious long-term treatment or go into a binge for a year. In any case, the deprivation of rights forever and the car under the press.

[Gennady Fomkin]

The man died. But this drunken monkey is not him.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

The man died. But this drunken monkey is not him.

And you look at all the fuss of "friends and admirers" and it seems that the main victim is the "cheerful drunkard" himself.

[Million]

An adult man, and behavior like a spoiled teenager. Being an addict and an alcoholic, he could have hired a driver for himself ....

[Vladimir Mashkov]

I'm not Stanislavsky, but I say: "I don't believe it!"
Why? It seems to be a sincerely good actor and a disgusting snob, an over-the-top, drunken, drunken type who is impudent from forgiveness (for money up to ...?) Is unusually modest (lawyer and drinking companion Garmash advised? Usually "genius Misha" does not do this, easily - it has been repeatedly - can fool from the stage and send obscenities) ON THE FOURTH DAY he asks for forgiveness from the family of the GOOD person he killed, recognizes the inadmissibility of being drunk while driving and the impossibility (ha-ha-ha) to get away (and where can you go? the country saw almost online!), regrets the lost life (still not a pity!) and asks for forgiveness.
Only I DON'T believe it! Why? Because Efremov divides his life BEFORE "accursed Monday" (when it is obvious and inevitable - you do not quietly cough and do not smear yourself! - "grabbed by the hand") and AFTER. Did he have an angelic life before this Monday? There were no hard drinking, drunkenness, hooliganism, boundless arrogance and rudeness, numerous drunken accidents, numbering fifty, about which he remained silent? That's why I say: I DO NOT BELIEVE IN EFREMOV'S SINCERNESS!
He must be Punished without fail. By law, no more and no less. And this will be a test of power and a warning to "boheme" (which she still "will not understand").

[alien]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

It must be PUNISHED. By law, no more and no less.

You can’t argue, of course. You can add only, but what does the law mean?

On one of the ancient Greek temples, at the entrance, the words were engraved: "What does law mean without morality? And what does morality without faith mean?"

You can be "highly moral" from culture, but we see what it leads to without observing the Commandments.

[alien]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

It must be PUNISHED. By law, no more and no less.

According to law...
"I put myself in the shoes of my relatives - I would take money from a rich little guy who, through negligence, killed my relative in a drunken accident.
Judging by the fact that the deceased worked as a courier, the family needs money.
And now they will either take the money and the Universe will forget about it again for the next 13 billion years, or they will not take the money and the Universe will forget about it in the same way. Nobody cares. This story will be completely forgotten in a month, only occasionally will society remember for a day - on the day of the trial, on the day of Efremov's transfer to the colony, on the day of leaving the colony in a few years. Nobody cares whether they took the money or not. This is THEIR destiny. "

“The relatives are afraid that if they take the money, their pride, their status in society - as they imagine it will suffer. But in reality, they [will do wrong] if they DO NOT take the money. The person cannot be returned. If Efremov is imprisoned 10 years and not 5, they will not be better from it. Nobody for money demands, for example, that the deceased be found guilty. No. Just a criminal is entitled by law help the victim’s family with money and get a slightly shorter period.
Maybe they are offered little money? I would in no case have refused money in the place of the victims - I would have demanded 20 lyam for the world and let at least a conditional term then receive... Now, if we are talking about 1 million - then yes, a penny, you can curl up saying "the deceased would not forgive this."

"If you forgive people their sins, then your Heavenly Father will also forgive you, and if you do not forgive people their sins, then your Father will not forgive you your sins."

From comments:
https://russiaru.net/filimon253#?/filimon253/

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

how these jesters, who considered themselves an elite, were dumbfounded, the problem is that they pay loot disproportionately to their work as a result of this and from permissiveness blows the roof

[Gennady Fomkin]

In accordance with Part 2 of Art. 74 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, correctional colonies are divided into settlement colonies, correctional colonies of general, strict and special regime. In one penal colony, isolated sections with different types of regime can be created.

In colony settlements, the deprivation of liberty of a person is separately served:

a) convicted of crimes committed but negligence, and not previously served a prison sentence;
b) first convicted of intentional crimes of small or medium gravity;
c) convicted of crimes committed through negligence, and previously served a prison sentence;
d) positively characterized convicts transferred from the colonies of general and strict regime in the manner prescribed by Art. 78 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation .. A competition is announced for the maintenance of city of Yefremov for a period of 12 years, where he is obliged to organize an amateur circle among those who are serving sentences during breaks with difficulty in sewing slippers and labor in a carpentry workshop, so to speak according to the nature of their direct activity

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Gardamir

He will serve up under house arrest. Then a long trial. Then, taking into account being under investigation. Release from the courtroom.

Tady we will picket him at home

[Gennady Fomkin]

His best role.

[Vasyan1971]

But I still ask. Although I know that they will not forgive
- said the actor.

The key here is actor. Whose he likes to play. Let a tear go. A profession like that.

In his apologies, Efremov says that it’s not permissible to drive drunk

Come on! Only having overslept understood this?

I betrayed everyone. Please forgive me. Nothing more to say.

Well yes. Accidentally stumbled. Not on purpose. Fatal coincidence of circumstances. No signs of trouble. Yeah. I’m not Stanislavsky, but I don’t believe! ©.

[north 2]

Efremov’s theater and cinema were already optional, and he played the main role of his life as a mouthpiece
Liberalists and Tolerasts through Citizen Poet. Which was broadcast under the brand
Yuri Gagarin - with a small letter and in one word. So, even their poster was breathing Russophobia and hatred for the Soviet past, if the surname of the great man Yuri Gagarin, the liberals used this blasphemous way. So it seems to me that theater and cinema will do without Efremov, but the liberals cannot find such a second shout. And it’s not yet clear who is more
you have to worry when you heard the words ... "the end. There is no longer any Efremov" ... - to the audience of theater and cinema, or the main author of Efremov's Russophobia in verse, Bykov. Although Bykov as a poet is very talented, Efremov is also a talented reciter of his poems. And here is the face of all Russian liberalism Grozman
Yesterday, in his article, he already made it clear that they didn’t give a damn about theater and cinema, but that the liberals were temporarily losing the reference mouthpiece of the reference Russophobia in the person of Efremov –– this was a tragedy for them.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Firs of fire - if you are a man so bear responsibility, and do not wobble like a naughty gymnasium student

[Emil]

The drunk burst into tears .... oh how touching !

[bar]

Good speech, sustained and takes for the soul. You will not drink talent ...
But there is no faith in a goner alcoholic. All these tears and snot they have exactly until the next binge. Maybe the zone will sober up? Although he has "money up to ...", with them and in the zone you can get booze and powder ...

[Sibguest]

The law never punishes the CRIMINAL. Only a trembling one is subjected to punishment - miserable, terrified, repentant, not at all like that arrogant, cruel, ruthless bastard who committed violence many days ago.
("Burdened by Evil" Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[martin-159]

Good quote, sorry out of place.

[Pvi1206]

Sergei Dorenko died in a similar accident ... but he was on a motorcycle ... who destroyed the videos in the bar, where did Mikhail leave? ...

[Kadum]

It's time to build a new Zone, for such! Something is getting a lot ..
And away in the tundra!
Special Zone !!!!

Prepare a savings book bear!

[BAI]

Dobrovinsky said that he knows how to smear Efremov. At the same time, he said that since he knows, other lawyers may know. I am not a lawyer, but I see a path lying in sight as he evades responsibility:
Did you run into a state of intoxication? Citizens Judges! He’s not to blame for anything. Alcoholism and drug addiction are recognized diseases! He must be treated! Here is the help. But he cannot be provided with such treatment in prison. Here is another help. Yes, he is guilty, but he is not guilty, because in a state of illness can not control their actions. Therefore, the prison sentence, he needs to be replaced by compulsory treatment in a specialized clinic, because in conditions of detention they will not be presented with appropriate treatment. And it is treated better in a foreign clinic, there is a more effective treatment.
Все.
Aggravating circumstances do not turn into extenuating, but justifying ones. No conclusion.
If something is wrong - appeals to the Supreme Court, and then to the ECHR, where political persecution can still be attached. The ECHR will definitely be against Russia on any issue.

[Valter1364]

The trouble is when a person dies. Efremov drinks as much as he breathes. He is an alcoholic with experience, and only the lazy one does not know about it. The authorities also knew that he was sick with alcoholism. And having hundreds of traffic violations, Efremov was allowed to have rights by this authority. That’s the worst thing about this story. The system, under which it is allowed to manage drunks and drug addicts with experience, itself provokes accidents on the roads.

[Evil 55]

It turns out that some actors also have a conscience ... Unless it's hypocrisy and not an attempt to gain time.

[LeonidL]

Was there even Efremov the younger? I remember and respect the eldest, and the younger went the beaten path of majors from dads - permissiveness, feeling like over talent and over untouchable star, alcohol, drugs ... and a predictable result with human sacrifice. A kind of sacrifice on the altar of "great art"?

[Normal]

Falsehood and provocation! Hysteroids are such hysteroids! At the sight of danger to themselves, they can ostentatiously lose consciousness, wring their hands and so on. His words are not congruent to his facial expressions, emotions. This is a memorized text. Regret, real regret, looks different. He even plays now, little bitch. I say, because I’m studying the behavior of people, including emotions. All speech, from beginning to end, is a performance. and scum, even now, wants to cause pity and forgiveness.
I have seen more than once, on their faces, what sorrow, sadness, fear and so on look like. None of this is there. You bastard. theatrical pauses alone.

[Retvizan 8]

To be honest, Efremov's son, as a person in the light of recent years (his drunken antics), I am not sympathetic to, I do not consider a "genius" artist, the attitude towards his tragic incident is extremely negative!
I heard his appeal on the radio, I did not watch the video.
He said the right words, I hope sincerely.

[cat Rusich]

My grandmother (father's mother) told my father: "If you like to drink, don't become a driver." My father had the right, he served as a driver in the army, went to work at a factory, did not drive, but could get a job as a driver on a collective farm, but he listened to his mother. You need to choose either VODKA or MACHINE ...

[Slon_on]

And how is this tragic story linked to the Military Review? Who can clarify?

[Rusfaner]

Listening, watching or reading the speech of Efremov, after the murder of a person, you need to remember all the time that this is a good, maybe a very good actor!
And if investigators and judges believe, then he is a great actor!

[EfremovD]

Self-hypnosis, karma and the law of dharma probably exist, I thought so after watching this work of the "drunken master" https://www.kinopoisk.ru/series/915992

[Ovsigovets]

Quote: 4ekist

They don’t lie drunk on the benches at the porches and they don’t cast onto fences. Again, all the questions are for our legislative and executive branch and the culture of the people.

watch the FIFA World Cup in France and how there are "no drunken saints lying around and pouring on the streets" .... just for general educational purposes