Ukroboronprom criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components

An interesting situation is developing in a neighboring state. Earlier, Ukroboronprom categorically opposed any Russian presence in Ukrainian equipment criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components even through the American intermediary Boeing Distribution. This was reported by the Ukrainian information and consulting agency Defense Express.

According to Defense Express, during a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security, Defense and Intelligence, Ukroboronprom brought Antonova many charges, among them the refusal to purchase parts of Russian production through an intermediary chosen with the participation of Ukroboronprom. This emphasizes that once the concern itself sharply opposed the schemes of such purchases, but, apparently, all the talk about the independence of Ukraine and the rejection of Russian components in production turned out to be zilch.

According to reports, in 2018, Ukroboronprom found an intermediary for the purchase of Russian components necessary for the production of the An-148, An-158, An-178 aircraft, or the An-1X8 NEXT, as they are called in Ukraine. All attempts to import substitution of Russian parts failed, so it was decided to purchase them, but not directly, but through an intermediary.

What is the specific reason for the non-delivery of Russian parts not specified, it is reported only that “Antonov” could not even get them through an intermediary.

Comments

[Kadum]

Farewell to the legendary "An" such a production was destroyed .. The whole country was building!

[Insurgent]

Ukroboronprom criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components

Earlier, Ukroboronprom, which was categorically opposed to any Russian presence in Ukrainian equipment, criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components even through the American intermediary Boeing Distribution.

It must be the same, the Soviet Union is gone, but the "urge" for a single cooperation remained.

But if Ukraine itself, unilaterally and on its own initiative, having cut off all the "ends" is unable to overcome the consequences of the rupture on its own, then the Russian industry, at the very least, overcomes them.
Opening new production or renewing the old.

To whom, in the end, WERE MUCH MORE DONE, Panov?

[Vita vko]

The main thing here is the very statement of the image problem. It was not Russia that refused to supply components to the side, but Antonov refused to take them, even through an American intermediary. Those. there is access to the Russian market, but "heroes" would better cut off their hand or gouge their eyes out.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Vita VKO

The main thing here is the very statement of the image problem. It was not Russia that refused to supply components to the side, but Antonov refused to take them, even through an American intermediary. Those. there is access to the Russian market, but "heroes" would better cut off their hand or gouge their eyes out.

Managers of "ANTK" apparently just perebdit a little, so as not to be suspected and accused of "spite" and "trick" ...

Such is the reality on the outskirts, where not reason prevails, or at least prudence, but terry Bandera hatred of Russia and all Russian.

[Pavel73]

This is the essence of Ukrainians. Moreover, it has never been different, including in Soviet times. Even the Great October Socialist Revolution was viewed by Ukrainian communists only as a means of "freeing themselves from the imperial oppression of Moscow." So the Ukrainian communists were essentially no different from the Ukrainian nationalists.

[Alex777]

It was not Russia that refused to supply components to the side, but Antonov refused to take them, even through an American intermediary.

I am tormented by vague doubts that Russia is sleeping and sees how to sell something to Antonov. Yes, even to the Americans, at the same time, give a weld for everything that they have arranged in Ukraine.

[vkfriendly]

Enumeration and everything will pass. Russia is not selling anything to anyone. Russian enterprises are being sold which, as we recall, were privatized and made private. Purely state owned with 100% participation is not by definition. See the difference or not?

[Alex777]

Do not write nonsense.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

To whom, in the end, WERE MUCH MORE DONE, Panov?

To spite mom’s frostbitten ears. Once again, they wrote in a well from which they drink water.

[Insurgent]

Quote: tihonmarine

To spite mom’s frostbitten ears.

One could also use: "To the evil conductor - walking behind the train", but they can't go anymore ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

One could also use: "To evil the conductor - walk behind the train", but they can no longer go ..

More suitable for these guys. "To spite the stewardess, I'll jump out of the plane."

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Insurgent

Ukroboronprom criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components

Earlier, Ukroboronprom, which was categorically opposed to any Russian presence in Ukrainian equipment, criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components even through the American intermediary Boeing Distribution.

It must be the same, the Soviet Union is gone, but the "urge" for a single cooperation remained.

But if Ukraine itself, unilaterally and on its own initiative, having cut off all the "ends" is unable to overcome the consequences of the rupture on its own, then the Russian industry, at the very least, overcomes them.
Opening new production or renewing the old.

To whom, in the end, WERE MUCH MORE DONE, Panov?

Western curators want to destroy GP Antonov. Local bureaucrats, in turn, need land in the center of Kiev.

his place was temporarily intercepted by the vice president for designing the Antonov state enterprise, Alexander Los.

It must be assumed that the Elk was seen by the “optimizers” as a figure more loyal than the Donets who kicked to the last. However, the events did not end there.

June 9 - on the day when the message about the dismissal of the Donets appeared - the “Antonovites” came out to protest. They published an appeal to the authorities, in which they drew attention to the flagrant situation around the flagship of the aircraft industry of Ukraine:

“In connection with the aggressive policy that the Ukroboronprom Concern pursues in the aviation industry and in relation to the Antonov state enterprise, in particular, the trade unions initiated an open press conference with the participation of the enterprise’s staff. We must state that the Ukroboronprom Group of Companies, which Antonov has been a part of since 2015, is taking measures aimed at terminating the enterprise’s activities, ”the statement said.
Antonovtsi did not forget to note that Ukroboronprom attracted foreign companies closely related to competitors of the state-owned enterprise in inspections of the strategic sensitive enterprise.

https://riafan.ru/1283845-degradaciya-antonova-postavila-na-gran-likvidacii-flagman-aviastroeniya-ukrainy

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Western curators want to destroy GP Antonov. Local bureaucrats, in turn, need land in the center of Kiev.

И good luck to them simpler sim

[knn54]

There was only one step left to FULL destruction.
At Ukroboronprom, cynicism and hypocrisy are going through the roof - they have already decided on the future builder of the entertainment complex.
And the production "somewhere" out of town. Is not it "in the clear field."

[Insurgent]

Quote: knn54

There was only one step left to FULL destruction.
At Ukroboronprom, cynicism and hypocrisy are going through the roof - they have already decided on the future builder of the entertainment complex.
And the production "somewhere" out of town. Is not it "in the clear field."

"Tailwind in humpback"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: knn54

And the production "somewhere" out of town. Is not it "in the clear field."

But rather, not in the field, but they will demolish it with a bulldozer, sell the iron in ferrous metal, but the workers will be released into the field.

[Thrifty]

And we ourselves, in terms of the notorious import substitution, all Praise God? Then where is our world-class microelectronics for starters? ??

[Non liberoid Russian]

so get busy, then shake the air in the comments ... or just know how to whine while sitting on the couch?

[Uncle Izya]

What is that only in Ukraine?
But ZIL Moskvich was not built by the whole country, but tractor plants?

[mitroha]

The news from the non-profit one is becoming more and more like sketches from the psychiatric clinic.
Although even there, probably, not so much enchanting idiocy always happens.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Mitroha

The news from the non-profit one is becoming more and more like sketches from the psychiatric clinic.
Although even there, probably, not so much enchanting idiocy always happens.

From the first day of the "Euromaidan", idiotic in meaning and Jesuitical, in 2014, when the outskirts finally derailed and rushed downhill ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mitroha

The news from the non-profit one is becoming more and more like sketches from the psychiatric clinic.

Yes, this news from the dispensary, as it began in 1991, continues.

[Kadum]

Quote: tihonmarine

Yes, this news from the dispensary, as it began in 1991, continues.

Kharkov psycho hospital (of union significance) .. As it was closed in the 91st, it started ..

[Kot_Kuzya]

What is the specific reason for the non-delivery of Russian parts not specified, it is reported only that “Antonov” could not even get them through an intermediary.

Why does Boeing need a competitor? The Sumerians are so stupid that as an intermediary they found the person most uninterested in the existence of the Ukrainian aircraft industry. It’s just like the Kalashnikov concern would try to sell its products through Winchester or Remington. Well stupid-s-s-s !!!!!

[mark1]

Quote: Kot_Kuzya

Why is Boeing a competitor?

What kind of competitor is he to Boeing? Only the opportunity to cut some money on intermediary services (in both directions, as I suspect)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: mark1

What kind of competitor is he to Boeing? Only the opportunity to cut some money on intermediary services (in both directions, as I suspect)

If Boeing has enterprises in Russia and is carrying out joint development, then in Ukraine Boeing does not, Ukraine does not need Boeing.

[mark1]

A lot of money does not happen and stupidly act as an intermediary in the exchange of goods between the two parties, while earning a certain penny, that’s the whole Boeing interest.

[illi]

If Boeing has enterprises in Russia and is carrying out joint development, then in Ukraine Boeing does not, Ukraine does not need Boeing.

Boeing in Russia does not have any production facilities and joint developments. There is a joint venture with avisma for the production of titanium billets and a design center in Moscow. That is, in fact, we need Boeing, raw materials and cheap brains.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: illi

Boeing in Russia does not have any production facilities and joint developments. There is a joint venture with avisma for the production of titanium billets and a design center in Moscow.

Something like that, but also a little more. On December 15, 2009, the Boeing 787, Dreamliner made its first flight. The first new civilian aircraft made by the American aircraft industry in 15 years.
Well, it would seem - and where does our website - Made with us, in Russia? And besides that, why is this plane American? The Dreamliner is also a Russian aircraft, largely designed and tested in Russia, and made from Russian-made parts. Dream flying.
The transfer of design work to Russia Boeing began in the first half of the 1990s. In 1993, the Boeing opened a Scientific and Technical Center in Moscow, in 1998 - the Moscow Design Center (MCC). Today it is the largest engineering center outside the United States - about 1.000 design engineers, not counting technical personnel.
The Boeing Design Center in Moscow took an active part in more than 250 projects, and since 2000, in all Boeing - Civil Aircraft programs, including such large-scale projects as the 747 Boeing Converted Freighter, Boeing 737-900ER, Boeing 777-200LR / 300ER, Boeing 777F, Boeing 767-200SF / 300BCF, Boeing 747LCF, the new aircraft of the 747 Boeing 747-8 family and the latest airliner - Boeing 787 Dreamliner.
The building of the Moscow Design Bureau of Boeing - Newspaper Lane, d.17 / 9. This is a 5-minute walk from the Kremlin along Tverskaya. According to Boeing estimates, approximately a third of the engineering projects for the Boeing 787 aircraft were completed by MCC specialists, and the level of participation in the development of other types of Boeing aircraft ranges from 30 to 40%.
Well, this is according to the Dreamliner, and here is what was designed in Russia according to the Boeing-747LCF - the latest modification of the Boeing transport.

Engineered parts of the aircraft in Russia are shown in blue.
This is the work of the Boeing Design Bureau itself in Moscow. And, in addition, in Russia Boeing has contracts with dozens of other organizations:

[illi]

Well, I don’t even know whether to be proud here or to grieve. That upscale specialists in whose training a lot of money has been invested, do not find a place in the domestic aviation industry. And they create planes for Boeing and the USA.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: illi

Well, I don’t even know whether to be proud here or to grieve.

I do not know either.

[Lopatov]

Quote: illi

There is a joint venture with avisma for the production of titanium billets

Titanium stampings are "raw materials" ????
Even just titanium in ingots is not a raw material but a high-tech product.

Boeing in Russia has a design center in Moscow, a joint venture Ural Boeing Manufacturing, a research center for the development of titanium alloys for the aircraft industry, and a training center in Skolkovo.

[illi]

Here, as they say, everyone is free to think how he pleases. Personally, I do not consider this production to be high-tech. All Boeing policies are transparent as glass. They get here at bargain prices what the United States has to pay many times more. This also applies to materials and specialists.

[Lopatov]

Quote: illi

Here, as they say, everyone is free to think how he pleases. Personally, I do not consider this production to be high-tech.

At exactly
Some are sure that the rolls themselves grow on trees. And the loafers-villagers just go and rip off

[illi]

Well, do not you advise me in this matter. What about Avisma, Salda is not too far here and no one here in the Urals considers them particularly high-tech. So about the rolls, in the saints of the 90s I had to keep a garden and my mother baked bread.
To tell the truth, in the post-perestroika period the bulk of high-tech industries did not survive, and the level of redistribution is now much lower than the USSR. If earlier there was an ore-plane, ore-tractor level, now the ore-procurement level for a Boeing is already good.

[Lopatov]

Quote: illi

Well, do not you advise me in this matter.

Naturally.
To convince me that rolls do not grow on trees are personally breaking for me.

[illi]

In general, I don’t understand people who are talking about metallurgy, and they are talking about rolls. So don’t bother.

[Lopatov]

Quote: illi

In general, I don’t understand people who are talking about metallurgy, and they are talking about rolls.

I noticed this in you ...
To declare stampings from specialized alloys as "raw materials" could well be a person who would never understand the connection between metallurgy and rolls on trees

Quote: illi

So don’t bother.

I won’t. Really useless.

[illi]

I have seen such a production that for me, titanium castings really are not the top of technology. For me, this is a semi-finished product, the next step after raw materials. Using your bread roll analogy, it's flour. To the final production of the aircraft, there is more than the distance from flour to rolls. However, you can agree with you, probably now this is the top of most chains in the Russian Federation.
Although all the same, it should be noted that in aviation our government is making attempts to revive.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: tihonmarine

If Boeing has enterprises in Russia

Moreover, in Moscow there is a department of a design bureau, 200 people work. A graduate of the Moscow Aviation Institute came out of the gates of the institute, looked around - and on the contrary a Boeing sign. Just cross the street.

[Brturin]

Quote: mark1

What kind of competitor is he to Boeing?

Boeing, not Boeing, but still a competitor - "! Among other claims made by Ukroboronprom to the Antonov company is the refusal to cooperate with the countries of the North Atlantic Alliance for the sake of producing a naval patrol aircraft with Neptune anti-ship missiles https: // vz.ru/news/2020/6/12/1044734.html

[ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2]

So, even through an intermediary, money is needed, apparently in Ukroboronprom did not guess, Give it a free ride.

[hagen]

Earlier, Ukroboronprom, which was categorically opposed to any Russian presence in Ukrainian equipment, criticized Antonov for refusing to purchase Russian components even through the American intermediary Boeing Distribution.

Most likely, this is the result of a change in the leadership of Antonov. The new general is known for his destructive activities in past places and focus on the interests of American mentors.

[Good forester]

So it became cool in the Ukrainian department. First, they cut the branch they are sitting on, then they throw Antonov to the show. The owners of Ukraine will not let the plant work. They drown him or have already drowned, but they will not let him come up again.

[V.I.P.]

Well, why? Listen to criticism and start purchasing. Just let out the competitor Il112 / 114)))

[Zaurbek]

An140 is called .... about 15 years ago he was released, he had all chances to be the main region. They also let him out to Iran. And where is he?

[cniza]

Quote: Good Forester

The owners of Ukraine will not let the plant work. They drown him or have already drowned, but they will not let him come up again.

Of course, they do not need any industry in Ukraine ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Good Forester

The owners of Ukraine will not let the plant work. They drown him or have already drowned, but they will not let him come up again.

Of course, they do not need any industry in Ukraine ...

It’s clear that we need cheap labor and territory

[Kadum]

Quote: Terenin

It’s clear that we need cheap labor and territory

Alas, no, Gennady! The West needs a "Russophobic ring of fire" around Russia. And they are ready to pay "big money" for this state to last as long as possible ..
That's just the US Congress and K. miscalculated and they themselves have these problems arose for which they paid ..
Khrushchev, Brezhnev were Ukrainians and they cherished her, but all in vain Trillions of rubles went into the sewers.
Maybe for the better! Russia has a huge territory not developed and with huge reserves of everything ..
PS We are waiting, we live, we are chewing bread .. (Ural-Siberia-Far East) ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Kadum

Russia has a huge territory not developed and with huge reserves of everything ..

That's right!

[cniza]

Quote: Terenin

It’s clear that we need cheap labor and territory

Yes, and also devastation, disorder and lousiness on us.

[Ilya Nikitich]

But what about the lack of solidity, autonomy, and now that’s all ???

[cniza]

Apparently all went out into an empty sound.

[Kadum]

Quote: cniza

Apparently all went out into an empty sound.

They yelled on the Maidan, burned a "golden eagle" and are waiting for "a rain of dollar investments."
And they are forced to continue the war ... And dragged by forelocks

[Terenin]

Quote: Ilya Nikitich

But what about the lack of solidity, autonomy, and now that’s all ???

It turns out that self-sufficiency did not lie down, that's all

[Prisoner]

Yeah. Somehow they didn’t do it in Ukrainian. Suspiciously. Are Kremlin agents to blame? After all, normal, by their standards, they buy Russian gas from Europe. Overpaying the truth, but after all, principles, Nenko, my woman!

[cniza]

Now, the right-wingers will explain to them how to love their homeland ... but seriously, they finished the branch on which they sat ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Captive

Somehow they didn’t do it in Ukrainian.

just in Ukrainian
because

Quote: Captive

Suspiciously.

[Rubi0]

This can only be rejoiced. Ideally, to help them ruin everything to the end, it amazes me how purely by accident some kind of fire did not happen for so many years in half-empty workshops. All neighbors of the Russian Federation should be treated like Israel, all around which enemies are unfriendly forces with a missile at once along Boryspil. don't give a damn what civilian flights are. There is no water in the Crimea - chop off the most Golan heights tobizh to the Dnieper

[demo]

I think the reason is not that our Russian hucksters suddenly flamed up with patriotism (our hucksters were born anti-patriots of Russia), but most likely that either the Antonovites were completely stupefied by embroidery, or they simply did not have money.

[cniza]

What is there to be wise, there is simply no money.

[Terenin]

Quote: demo

or they just don’t have money.

Usually no one has money - brains

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: demo

I think the reason is not that our Russian hucksters suddenly ignited patriotism ....

Especially when patriotism reinforced by tight controls and identified risks - and this is correct in this case. It’s a pity that the Antonov brand turned out to be outside of Russia, but otherwise Amenthey themselves wanted it

[Terenin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

It’s a pity that the Antonov brand turned out to be outside of Russia,

of course sorry but

Quote: Pete Mitchell

they themselves wanted it

Quote: Pete Mitchell

and the rest is Amen

Verily amen

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Pete Mitchell

and the rest is Amen

Verily amen

Only organisms that believe that the world revolves around them could hope for the help of Westerners in the development of high-tech industries. According to the experience of the same Baltic states and former oats, they put everything worthwhile under a knife, make furniture maximum

[Terenin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Terenin

Quote: Pete Mitchell

and the rest is Amen

Verily amen

Only organisms that believe that the world revolves around them could hope for the help of Westerners in the development of high-tech industries. According to the experience of the same Baltic states and former oats, they put everything worthwhile under a knife, make furniture maximum

Yes, we ourselves are on the verge of it.
I remember our giant factories - AZLK, Rubin, Hammer and Sickle, ZIL, which were destroyed after the collapse of the USSR.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Terenin

Yes, we ourselves are on the verge of it. I remember our giant factories ....

It remains to thank the Almighty and someone else that this process was stopped on time, though not without consequences. Some deals were stopped from the aquarium; some bourgeois themselves lost interest, for example, when they were ousted, how they removed the Boeing fighters from the assembly workshop at the Komsomol plant

[Terenin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

It remains to thank the Almighty

You understood me correctly, I missed the word "were" in the 90s and 00s.

[Sancho_SP]

Everything, as usual, is simpler: it's just an excuse. They themselves cannot release aircraft, and the aggressor did not sell engines.

[Non liberoid Russian]

they have their own engines, from Russia avionics and parts of the wing bodies are needed yes the chassis

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

from Russia avionics and details of the wing bodies are needed yes the chassis

Let Turkey be addressed. They have now freed up power after the launch of the fe-35 program.

[Non liberoid Russian]

Wait, they shared technology with the Turks

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Not a liberoid Russian

Wait, they shared technology with the Turks

Well yes. They "shared" with the Chinese, "shared" with the North Koreans, turned inside out before the Americans ... The Turks, the worse?

[rocket757]

Are you too smart ??? It seems like wisdom .... just jumped.

[cniza]

It’s called pros ... kakali, and now everything ..

[rocket757]

Hi
It makes no sense to guess. Commercial matters.
Someone needs to buy, the question is, and someone needs to sell?
It’s not clear.

[cniza]

In my opinion, everything is much simpler, they used to get what they needed, and then they paid, now nothing, especially through an intermediary, the money in advance, but they are not there.

[rocket757]

Also an option .... we don’t know for sure, I don’t want to guess.

[cniza]

We don’t guess, we just understand how everything worked with Ukraine before and what they achieved.

[rocket757]

There is a feeling that they themselves don’t understand each other ... they come to consensus only when they break off to the fullest .... they begin to look for the guilty party. Nothing new.

[cniza]

I think they immediately know the culprit, it’s just not them, and then their envy is beyond measure.

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

We don’t guess, we just understand how everything worked with Ukraine before and what they achieved.

It turns out that political slogans are equally proportional to the socio-economic outcome

[cniza]

It seems to me that they are happening in different universes, slogans for slogans and for the sake of slogans, and they are looking for the result of their position from their neighbors ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

The guilty, the main ones, have already been appointed, but this does not cancel the internal showdown!

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

The guilty, the main ones, have already been appointed, but this does not cancel the internal showdown!

The main showdown is yet to come ...

[rocket757]

Assuming that they figure it out, never did!
Arrange "debriefing", but it still will not fly!

[cniza]

They soon will not even crawl, sorry for ordinary people ...

[rocket757]

It's a pity ... but the state, my hut from the edge, is their choice! We don’t have enough for all the pitfalls.

[cniza]

This is so, everything is in their hands, we can only help, after their initiative actions.

[rocket757]

The presented victory does not please everyone, and they will not be appreciated in any way.

[cniza]

No, to give them victory, or rather, no one should do for them, we can only support, and we must ...

[rocket757]

If we support it, but so far nothing, then no business.

[cniza]

Unfortunately, for now, yes, and we don’t know much to appreciate everything.

[Kadum]

Quote: rocket757

Are you too smart ??? It seems like wisdom .... just jumped.

They descended to African countries .. Who was before the Ukrainian SSR and what has become now? It is being converted into Syria, Iraq and Libya .. When all the black soil is taken out, it will turn into a desert ..

[rocket757]

The topic is sick! Because nearby, because not strangers!

[steelmaker]

This is a political question. And it must be solved politically. Ukraine, its political elite, are fascists. And I have a question: "Who is ready to trade with these fascists? Name. In Russia, you need to know traitors." They cut off the water in Crimea and do a lot of other nasty things, but Russia will keep the company and production is ready! And note that our government does not present anything to the fascists and does not set conditions. Money doesn't smell !!

[Mavrikiy]

All attempts to import substitution of Russian parts failed, so it was decided to purchase them, but not directly, but through an intermediary.

Right, from the hands of Europe and the USA, our carrots are sweeter for true dill.

[base1]

Maybe Antonovtsy blocked a strong pullback ukroboronprom?

[Kadum]

Quote: baza1

Maybe Antonovtsy blocked a strong pullback ukroboronprom?

There have been no Antonovites there for a long time .. Just rusting capacities and territories .. The task is to sell it all, as profitable as possible .. But no one is buying anymore .. even the Chinese!

[APASUS]

The situation looks like a farce! But what about the American friends, didn't they "help" Antonov? After all, a wagon of spare parts was promised and almost a transition to the production of Boeing ..............

[Kadum]

Quote: APASUS

The situation looks like a farce! But what about the American friends, didn't they "help" Antonov? After all, a wagon of spare parts was promised and almost a transition to the production of Boeing ..............

It is easier to export girls to the United Arab Emirates, etc. And for a long time the flow is .. Soon on the outskirts of women will not be missed

[Brturin]

Promising doesn't mean getting married. Won KRAZ bets from "friends", and the bankruptcy procedure has begun and is threatened with massive redundancies

[Eug]

The fight for the one in whose mouth the dumplings will jump when purchasing accessories ...

[Terenin]

Interesting situation takes shape in a neighboring state.

It would be interesting if it hadn’t had a Bandera armed coup d'etat with deaths that did not occur and now killings of its citizens in the Southeast ...
And, the situation is rightly called go. Otsko-deplorable-brainless.

[Vasyan1971]

Ukroboronprom brought forward many accusations against Antonov, including refusal to purchase parts produced in Russia through an intermediary chosen with the participation of Ukroboronprom itself, emphasizing that once the concern itself sharply opposed such procurement schemes ...

What, again, suddenly turned into a hail? Who would have thought!

all talk of Ukraine’s independence ... turned out to be zilch.

It is what it is...

[Klingon]

perhaps only Antonov’s purchase by the Chinese could save the situation, but the striped ones would do anything to prevent this from happening. Well, we don’t need that either, there’s no need for the Chinese to get advanced aircraft technology, so Antonov * will die, the flyers that still fly will decay over time, and Mriya will probably be bought by the aviation museum in Sinsheim and they’ll probably make a restaurant out of the cargo compartment

[gurzuf]

It is surprising that the airline still bears the name of Oleg Konstantinovich. After all, he has been a member of the CPSU (B.) Since 1945. Member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Ukrainian SSR. Everything else seems logical to me.

[senima56]

AN-148 is a good, modern aircraft! It was produced mainly in Voronezh at VASO. The aircraft consisted of 75% Russian components. Yes, unfortunately, there were accidents with human casualties. Conclusions have been made. And the airlines that purchased it are satisfied with its performance.
Unlike the notorious SSJ! Which is 80% assembled "with the world on a string", no one needs, and costs more than flies!

[Strashila]

This is a great demonstration of who really was an aircraft manufacturer. To collect, this does not mean to develop and produce.

[Sahalinets]

Yes, in fact, these guys are simply trying to squeeze Antonov’s cargo transportation business. There is no god knows what, but little ruslanchiki fly, bring live cash and someone wants to earn it. And all the charges are for averting eyes.
Well, maybe land is needed. How many commercial facilities can be built at the factory site!

[Evil 55]

See. The "gasket" requested a lot ... as a result, Russia did not sell the original spare parts, and China did not get involved with counterfeit products ..

[LeonidL]

"Ukroboronprom, which previously spoke out categorically against any Russian presence in Ukrainian equipment, criticized Antonov for refusing to buy Russian components" - the weather vane again creakingly turns towards common sense ... but late, Antonov flew away from the territory of the Absurd ... Well, goodbye Ukrainian Antonov and I think hello Russian!

[Tota]

Well, here God himself ordered to use the situation. Selling details to intermediaries is slightly higher than the price for which we sold to Ukraine, and the intermediary will wind up its price for mediation on these details.

[cheburator]

Antonov is the pride of the USSR and the shame of hohloiny! We are Russians, God is with us!