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US predicted collapse following the example of the Soviet Union

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US predicted collapse following the example of the Soviet Union

The United States expects the fate of the Soviet Union, 30 years after the collapse of the USSR, the United States is also on the verge of collapse. About this in his article for Le Figaro wrote the French columnist Nicolas Bavre.


According to Bavre, the policy of the current president, Donald Trump, who "plunges America into a civil war" will lead to the collapse of the United States. Currently, the author claims, the United States is experiencing four crises at once simultaneously, and all of them are associated with the coronavirus pandemic.

Firstly, the spread of COVID-19 infection claimed at least 110 American lives, a pandemic in the United States has already been compared with the wars that were fought in the 20th century. The second factor was unemployment, which has reached 45 million over the past three months and continues to increase. The third factor was the fall in the country's GDP; it is forecasted that in 2020 the decline will be at least 6,5%. And the last factor that gave the impetus was the murder by police in Minneapolis of African American George Floyd. This incident stirred America and brought thousands of protesters to the streets.

“Oil to the fire” is added by Donald Trump, who, trying to save his face against the background of riots and win the next election, sometimes makes mixed decisions. What is Trump's statement about the intention to resort to the 1807 law on the suppression of uprisings and entrust the restoration of order in the army’s country? All this further plunges the United States into chaos.

As the French journalist notes, all these events, including the struggle for power, can lead to the collapse of the United States. However, Bavre emphasizes that Trump’s power is still strong and if he wins the election, he can save the state, especially since his “opponent from the Democrats” Joe Biden is not a strong political figure.
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  1. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 12 June 2020 08: 51
    +3
    All this is garbage. The United States will collapse under its own weight, its own colonial policy, which every year is increasingly difficult to implement.
    And of course, it’s impossible to endlessly print candy wrappers, even if they are backed up by the most powerful army in the world.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 12 June 2020 09: 01
      34
      Quote: Al_lexx
      All this is garbage. The USA will collapse under its own weight, its own colonial policy,

      Since Soviet times, I’ve heard that here ... just a little bit .. Nothing of course lasts forever, but while a fat one dries, a thin one dies ..
      A colonial policy and supports the dollar and the financial strength of the United States. Only an economically equal and smart rival can undermine the USA, but this undermining will threaten the whole world with war. And the USSR was smart and equal, especially before Khrushchev ..
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 12 June 2020 09: 41
        27
        US predicted collapse following the example of the Soviet Union

        Following the example of the Soviet Union will not work. For the USA is not divided administratively-territorially on the basis of the TITLE-NATIONAL-attribute, as was done during the formation of the USSR.
        Therefore, in the United States on a national basis there is nothing to fall apart! But on a racial basis, a civil war in the United States is possible. But this does not mean that the United States will necessarily fall apart.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 12 June 2020 10: 05
          36
          But the USA consists of 50 STATES. Each state has its own police and national guard, its own laws and, in fact, a different mentality. Plus a serious stratification of the rich states and the poor. But in general, California and Texas - what holds them together? request
          The riots are likely to be crushed after the elections, but the split lines will not go anywhere. The overthrow of monuments, the obliteration of history, the deprivation of the state of the monopoly on violence - this is the breakdown of the foundation of the state. Now the states have our perestroika and demsmi is our perestroika magazine Ogonyok. They are now actively throwing out all the dirt of their history, which invariably hits their brains. And then everything is the same - they are offered to pay and repent. They demanded from us that we do this in front of the Bandera and forest brothers, and from them - in front of the blacks, but the meaning is the same. request
          Seattle, New York and Minneapolis today are our then Tbilisi and Vilnius. A public demonstration of the inability of the authorities to power sweep riots and separatism. Even if everything calms down, it will not be forgotten. Monument to many people will not be forgotten either.
          True, the Anglo-Saxons have a great dignity - a cruel, decisive and greedy elite, ready for anything. So let's see how their elite will be stronger than our rotten late Soviet. Will they be able to keep the United States from collapse. Will they be ready to remember youth and act like that? how did the Anglo-Saxons act for centuries in such cases?
          1. DVR
            DVR 12 June 2020 10: 54
            +8
            True, the Anglo-Saxons have a great dignity - a cruel, decisive and greedy elite, ready for anything. So let's see how their elite will be stronger than our rotten late Soviet. Will they be able to keep the United States from collapse. Will they be ready to remember youth and act like that? how did the Anglo-Saxons act for centuries in such cases?

            I agree with everything except the elite. In my opinion, the so-called the deep state that governs the United States, the main organizer of what is happening. The techniques and mechanisms are the same as in all color revolutions. When Trump is removed, then they will be crushed quickly, without hesitation, all the media will be silent.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 12 June 2020 12: 37
              +4
              It is organized by the transnational elite - it does not need the existence of the United States as a national state with its own history. Borders and peoples are eroded as much as possible in order to bring down old formations and create a "new world" in their place. But the old Anglo-Saxon elite is far from all transnational. There are also a significant portion of these elites whose interests lie within the "Anglo-Saxon world." They are tough, greedy racist white families with centuries of domination and diplomacy. I don't think they will give up their history and experience in order to make way for new ones. globalizers. ”Let's see. request
              1. DVR
                DVR 12 June 2020 12: 41
                +1
                I agree. But the transnational elite of the United States is still needed as a tool for managing the world. With their hands, so far everything is being done. When they make a new tool out of someone, the United States will not have a chance to maintain its status.
              2. Alex777
                Alex777 12 June 2020 14: 13
                +4
                It is organized by the transnational elite - it does not need the existence of the United States as a national state with its own history.

                Seriously? And who will brandish a club around the world defending the interests of this elite if not the USA ?! bully
                Where do you think this "elite" is located? Who does it consist of that does not need the States? negative
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 12 June 2020 14: 46
                  +2
                  What will emerge from the wreckage of the United States. And this elite can be located anywhere - from New Zealand and Singapore to London or Brussels. It does not matter. They are building a "new world". And the USA is just a building material in this process and a tool.
              3. nerd.su
                nerd.su 12 June 2020 16: 04
                +3
                Quote: g1v2
                It is organized by the transnational elite - it does not need the existence of the United States as a national state with its own history.

                At this stage of history, it is too early for the transnational elite to abandon a powerful nation-state capable of protecting this elite in different parts of the world. Without the American military machine, all this transnational elite will end its existence as an order of the Templars.
          2. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
            VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 12 June 2020 12: 01
            0
            This Eli a keeps everything on the money. And if you said greedy, then to whom will they pay!
          3. Nemchinov Vl
            Nemchinov Vl 12 June 2020 22: 14
            -1
            Quote: g1v2
            But the USA consists of 50 STATES.
            Interestingly, this is how much LC / DNI can be created (split) ...?!
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 12 June 2020 12: 39
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          Following the example of the Soviet Union will not work.

          But it is not necessary, following the example of the Soviet Union, let their own way roll towards collapse. If it does happen, then Russia should adhere to it and write a constitution for those who stand out. However, debt by payment is terrible. laughing
        3. iouris
          iouris 12 June 2020 15: 17
          +1
          "Civil war" in the United States (and we are in an empire, and the empire is the United States) is not only possible but also necessary. Such an empire is too complicated. The contradictions have become antagonistic, it is no longer possible to resolve them in traditional ways, and Trump gives in and retreats in the face of the complexity of the management problems facing him. And the democrats, apparently, have no questions: they are ready and will destroy the enemy (on a global scale).
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          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 12 June 2020 15: 58
            0
            Quote: iouris
            the democrats, apparently, have no questions: they are ready and will destroy the enemy (on a global scale).

            American DEMOCRACY is a national globalist structure that destroys all national states in the world for its own world domination.
            If this structure, in order to establish its own world order on Earth through the reformatting of society, requires the destruction of the United States in their own globalist interests, then they will also destroy the USA.

            So if the US does not stop the NAD national globalist forces of the "deep state" of the United States, then the world will definitely only face war!

            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 12 June 2020 19: 52
              +1
              1956 Egypt? lol
              1. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 13 June 2020 09: 26
                +1
                Quote: Krasnodar
                1956 Egypt? lol

                There, as it were, on the contrary, they did not allow the naglitsy and frogmen to get in.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 13 June 2020 10: 23
                  +1
                  I mean the same
                  And Greece, EMNIP, also the British were
      2. Labrador
        Labrador 12 June 2020 10: 16
        16
        Let's just say: if this happens in my lifetime, then I will open the most expensive cognac.
        1. snake
          snake 12 June 2020 14: 16
          -4
          Quote: Labrador
          Let's just say: if this happens in my lifetime, then I will open the most expensive cognac.

          Enough money?
          "Henri IV Dudognon Heritage Cognac Grande Champagne" is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the most expensive cognac and alcoholic beverage in the world. Produced since 1776. The bottle was sold in 2009 in Dubai for $ 2.

          Although, when you and your grandchildren-great-grandchildren accumulate this cognac, by that time the United States, you look, and fall apart.
          Who is too lazy to count: if you postpone the salary of the "middle class" in the Russian Federation (17000tr), then it will take about 700 years.
          1. Labrador
            Labrador 12 June 2020 18: 15
            +4
            laughing
            During the working day I did not finish: from my own at home. I’m not so rich and I don’t have such an old one. But a couple of 30+ bottles are available
            drinks
            1. snake
              snake 12 June 2020 19: 44
              -5
              Quote: Labrador
              During the working day I did not finish: from my own at home. I’m not so rich and I don’t have such an old one. But a couple of 30+ bottles are available

              Yes, but you will finish your 30+ bottles much sooner than the USA will fall apart. My scenario of your drinking expensive cognac is much more realistic.
              1. Labrador
                Labrador 12 June 2020 21: 27
                +1
                you will finish your 30+ bottles much sooner than the USA will fall apart

                1) They do not judge others by themselves!
                2) At 30+ for this reason scraped
                tongue
      3. Dmitry Makarov
        Dmitry Makarov 12 June 2020 10: 43
        -2
        Do not console yourself with illusions, but rather remember how no one in the world believed in the collapse of the USSR, even when it collapsed they continued to disbelieve.
        So maybe now, the United States is gone, and many continue to pray for them?
      4. really
        really 12 June 2020 10: 52
        +1
        Before him, they did not fight the United States, but accepted help, salvation from starvation on the Volga, industrialization is all American factories and equipment, allies in the war, finally open books
        1. SSR
          SSR 12 June 2020 12: 21
          +3
          Quote: really
          industrialization is all american factories

          At the height of the Cold War, there is an interesting historical fact. The USSR recognized the landing on the moon, and grain flows at a low price in the volume went to the USSR in such a volume that grain in the USA itself went up by almost 30-50%
          and the construction of the most modern plant in Naberezhnye Chelny began, where machines from Japan, England and the USA were brought. So the Kamaz plant appeared.
          Over 81% was equipment operating on an automatic and semi-automatic cycle, including about 700 automatic, flow-mechanized and complex-mechanized lines. More than 700 foreign firms from 19 countries of Europe (CMEA and Western Europe), the USA, Canada, and Japan took part in equipping KamAZ
      5. sabakina
        sabakina 12 June 2020 11: 08
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Al_lexx
        All this is garbage. The USA will collapse under its own weight, its own colonial policy,

        Since Soviet times, I’ve heard that here ... a little more .. Of course, nothing lasts forever, but while the fat dries, the thin one dies ..

        But let me disagree. The fat one will die earlier, for he needs more food. By myself I know, I'm thin. wink
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 12 June 2020 11: 24
          +5
          Vyacheslav, this is a saying, but I decided to check what medicine says .. The conclusions are certainly not unambiguous, because fat people have a lot of concomitant diseases, and therefore, the probability of death is still higher than that of a thin one, but if we consider a fat, well-fed person, not greasy, then he will last longer than thin laughing
          https://joinfor.ru/kto-pervym-umret-ot-goloda-tolstyj-ili-hudoj-chelovek/
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 12 June 2020 11: 29
            -1
            Volodya, the fat one is not a camel; he cannot eat his own fat. A thin glass of tea is enough. wink
            1. iouris
              iouris 12 June 2020 15: 21
              +1
              Quote: sabakina
              A thin glass of tea is enough.

              It is known that a bucket of tea replaces one gram of oil. Drink tea - eat your neck!
          2. Vladimir1155
            Vladimir1155 13 June 2020 09: 17
            0
            and you look at the average Americans, it’s not just fatness but obesity, and it’s massive, the transnational elite doesn’t need the USA as it seems, fed up with fat people, crime and African-Americans make life uncomfortable even for the elite, the army is expensive but shows an inability to quickly solve these problems another problem .... the elite can so far wait in England, and then move to Israel, great from sea to sea, on the site of the destroyed Iraq of Iran and the Saudis, with every little thing (the old goal of the elite was adopted in Basel) .... we think that the elite is omnipotent and intelligent ... but it does not control at all, its management controls and it may turn out to be stupid and set its masters up, for the fall of the USA is based on their general stupidity caused by disgusting education and rejection of the principles of the United States.
            1. EMMM
              EMMM 14 June 2020 12: 37
              0
              the fall of the usa is based on their general stupidity caused by disgusting education and the rejection of the principles of the United States.

              I think the same about July 1
        2. really
          really 12 June 2020 13: 19
          -1
          Nobody has left alive from this life.
      6. SSR
        SSR 12 June 2020 11: 42
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        Since Soviet times, I’ve heard that here ... a little more ..

        30 years in the historical period is zilch.)))
        Over in Italy they dug up the scepter of the ousted Maximilian who crowned the blue ball of our planet and his empire, the power passed to the Christians and the planet became flat.))
        Quote: Svarog
        Only economically equal and smart rival can undermine the USA

        Isn't China a smart rival? Is this not the first economy in China?))
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 12 June 2020 11: 44
          +5
          Quote: SSR
          Isn't China a smart rival? Is this not the first economy in China?))

          But what do you think if the Chinese take the place of the United States it will make it easier for us? I doubt it .. Yes, the Chinese are weak so far, although they are conducting a competent policy.
          1. SSR
            SSR 12 June 2020 12: 08
            +2
            Quote: SSR
            Over in Italy they dug up the scepter of the ousted Maximilian who crowned the blue ball of our planet

            I apologize, I mistakenly wrote the name.
            To Constantine the Great before the battle with Maxentius. The “Sign of the Cross” appeared to Konstantin at night, in a dream. And then a sign appeared already during the battle, and the soldiers of Constantine and Maxentius saw him.

            Maxentius had a scepter with the blue ball of our planet.
            Quote: Svarog
            Yes, the Chinese are weak so far

            In some respects, everyone has weaknesses, but the Chinese almost completely subjugated Africa to themselves, moreover, they press Europeans and Americans by economic methods, they take from Africans, but unlike democratic elves, they give them quite a few.
            PS.
            Quote: Svarog
            But what do you think if the Chinese take the place of the United States it will make it easier for us?

            This is a completely different question comrade but I can try to share my opinion. If China becomes a hegemon, then there will be a certain parity with Russia. The Europeans themselves will begin to support Russia as a buffer and counterweight to the multipolar world, and the Chinese do not need to mess with the neighbor from whom the united Europe was raking. They have enough Asia-Pacific countries, Africa and Latin America.
      7. iouris
        iouris 13 June 2020 23: 58
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        while the fat dries, the thin dies ..

        "Tolstoy" is sick with all diseases at once. He does not dry out, but continues to get fat. It will collapse, and not "by example." It will be much worse. For all.
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 12 June 2020 09: 04
      14
      All this is garbage. The USA will collapse under its own weight, its own colonial policy.
      Unfortunately, they will not collapse anywhere and do not fall apart. In 1807, neither the Fed nor a coherent dollar was there, and the law on riots was already there were riots belay And Congress is not discussing its own demise, but the supply of extremely weapons. So it all reminds me of the early 70s. All these "black panthers", freedom of Angela Davis, etc. That is, we see what we are shown and discuss what we were told. What is really happening in each individual state, we do not know for certain. So far, I see that there are differences everywhere. But what unites them is still unclear. Such events either have a center or are simply pogroms. If there is a center, then it absolutely does not want the collapse of the country in which it is going to seize powers. if it's just pogroms, it won't fall apart.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 12 June 2020 09: 50
        +6
        Quote: NDR-791
        Such events either have a center or they are simply pogroms. If there is a center, then he absolutely does not want the collapse of the country in which he is going to seize power. if it’s just pogroms, it won’t fall apart.

        The center in the USA, of course, exists and it is in the hands of the global democrats on the side of their representative Biden.
        Even Trump noticed the existence of this center in the country and called it "the deep state." These are the bankers-financiers of the US Federal Reserve and their representatives.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 12 June 2020 10: 52
          -1
          That's all the power! And who is the president there? If Donald our Fedorovich cannot manage his governors wassat We have some Platoshkin sneezed in the wrong direction and go! Governors - reporting ... report finished! Stupidly globalists fight with the revisionists. And by the fall, get ready for the big circus that left, leaving the clowns. I will watch this show to the end. laughing
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 June 2020 09: 55
        +5
        Quote: NDR-791
        Unfortunately, they will not collapse anywhere and do not fall apart.

        Everything truly will not collapse, it’s just that there is a mess in the country and permissiveness, everything is done in an organized manner, but there is no revolutionary movement and mood, and of course there is no revolutionary party that cannot coexist there.
    3. Finches
      Finches 12 June 2020 09: 21
      +2
      Somehow, an exclamation from the local slashers just bursts out of the chest - "Die tv.r !!!" laughing
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 12 June 2020 09: 38
      +4
      His words would be to God’s ears! To really, the true evil empire went down in history!
    5. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 12 June 2020 20: 25
      0
      When I talked about the burden of colonial politics, I meant the fact that the United States is really getting harder every year to maintain the image of a superpower that is bombing anyone and anywhere. Of course. America keeps on a robbery of colonies. Moreover, one of them. in a sense - part of Europe. But, to steer in their colonies is more and more expensive for them. The number of remote military bases is such that they eat up most of the military budget (just don’t need the magic printing press again, the petrodollar staggers like a drunk). I am silent about the pricing of new weapons. Those. It’s quite difficult for me to imagine that the Americans will ever (in the form of the state that is now) start mass production of sixth generation combat aircraft, as the fighter will become equal in price to yesterday’s nuclear submarine. But to us and the Chinese, how to send two bytes. It’s not just that they (the USA) reduced the number of future modern aircraft carriers, planes, etc. Not just that, they took the path of modernizing what was done fifty or sixty years ago.
      And finally, China began to merge American debt securities en masse. The line is ours. It's not just that we are buying gold with the Chinese. It is clear that this is not a question of tomorrow, but the trend is being traced, the process is slowly going on. And I’m talking about this, and not about the fact that the USA will collapse tomorrow (God forbid, as the whole world is shaken). I strongly doubt it. that the process will be revolutionary. explosive character. Rather, the gradual decay and the same gradual seizure of the initiative by the Chinese.
      For me, no doubt, the next century will be the century of domination of China. And in other words, a civilization built on a collective mind will come forward instead of the individualist civilization (Russian civilization, something in between). Or as one good friend of mine subtly remarked:
      - "A person who considers himself Russian can be a Russian. A person who considers himself a Jew can become a Jew, although it is somewhat more complicated. Everyone else will become Chinese, whether they want it or not. If only they do not have time to become Russians or Jews beforehand."
    6. FIR FIR
      FIR FIR 12 June 2020 23: 21
      0
      According to Bavre ...

      And for me
      All this bullshit
  2. Partaktiv
    Partaktiv 12 June 2020 08: 52
    -9
    It was not for nothing that Trump was called Gorbachev and an agent of the Kremlin .. However, he was a lot of money ..))))
    We are waiting for the appearance of American Chubais and K .. !!!!!!
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 June 2020 09: 05
      +9
      Quote: Partaktiv
      It was not for nothing that Trump was called Gorbachev and an agent of the Kremlin .. However, he was a lot of money ..))))
      We are waiting for the appearance of American Chubais and K .. !!!!!!

      It's not about Chubais. of which there are a lot.
      The case is in kings like Yeltsin, Shushkevich and Kravchuk. Wishing to steer their estate
      And there are currently no such people in the USA.

      Therefore, this is just the election campaign of the Democrats.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 12 June 2020 09: 26
        +4
        Quote: Spade
        Therefore, this is just the election campaign of the Democrats.

        As Volodya Sharapov said - "Well, what are they, spies or what? They are normal bandits."
        Also, often, we overestimate them. Nevermind agitation with deaths and undermining statehood what
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 June 2020 09: 43
          +3
          Quote: Terenin
          Nevermind agitation with deaths and undermining statehood

          I'm talking about an article.

          And the deaths of the Negro riots for the United States are quite traditional
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 12 June 2020 09: 56
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: Terenin
            Nevermind agitation with deaths and undermining statehood

            I'm talking about an article.

            And the deaths of the Negro riots for the United States are quite traditional

            In response to this daily song:
            the disintegration of the United States will lead to the policy of the current President Donald Trump, who "plunges America into a civil war"
            Bavre joined late.

            By the way, that I’m nothing more, in the Internet’s ocean, about
            Famous French journalist Nicolas Bavre
            did not find anything No.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 12 June 2020 10: 18
              -1
              Quote: Terenin
              did not find anything

              Nicolas Baverez: “Les États désunis d'Amérique”
              https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/politique
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 12 June 2020 11: 13
                +3
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                Quote: Terenin
                did not find anything

                Nicolas Baverez: “Les États désunis d'Amérique”
                https://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/politique

                Well, of course, WRITING FROM PARIS! yes
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 12 June 2020 12: 47
                  0
                  Quote: Terenin
                  Well, of course, WRITING FROM PARIS!

                  So it is written at the very beginning of the article.
                  About this in his article for Le Figaro wrote the French columnist Nicolas Bavre.
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 09: 08
      +5
      Chubais is not needed there; everything is privatized in the States and without it. Lenin is needed there - a civil war is guaranteed.
      1. Partaktiv
        Partaktiv 12 June 2020 09: 16
        +4
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Chubais is not needed there; everything is privatized in the States and without it. Lenin is needed there - a civil war is guaranteed.

        Well then, Chinganchuk is a big snake and a good Jewish lawyer ..))))))
        1. really
          really 12 June 2020 10: 55
          +1
          There are a lot of the latter, but the trouble with Chinganchuk is that they live from tourism and casinos
          1. Partaktiv
            Partaktiv 12 June 2020 10: 58
            -2
            Quote: really
            There are a lot of the latter, but the trouble with Chinganchuk is that they live from tourism and casinos

            Well, you can find it, if you carefully .. They drove them poor fellow in storage and wait for them to die out ..! And so many claims can be brought, along with blacks !!!!!!!!
            1. really
              really 12 June 2020 11: 02
              -1
              For blacks you can already get a lawsuit, wink
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 12 June 2020 11: 20
        -1
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Chubais is not needed there; everything is privatized in the States and without it. Lenin is needed there - a civil war is guaranteed.

        So it seems not Lenin V.I. began civilian, and General Krasnov ...
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 11: 25
          +3
          The Bolsheviks created the prerequisites for the civil, having dispersed the Constituent Assembly. In which they would not be in the majority.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 12 June 2020 11: 34
            +2
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            The Bolsheviks created the prerequisites for the civil, having dispersed the Constituent Assembly. In which they would not be in the majority.

            The February revolution is also the Bolsheviks? The Constituent Assembly did not at all understand what to do, for until the last they wanted to defeat the damned Teutonic. The Bolsheviks simply picked up power, which simply lay on the pavement, which no one needed. Just V.I. Lenin was at the right time, at the right time.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 11: 46
              -2
              The Bolsheviks picked up something, but did not want to share power with other parties. But there were many parties and, often, their programs were more worthy than the Bolshevik ones and had the right to exist. Usurpation of power is the cause of the civil war.
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 12 June 2020 11: 54
                +2
                Andrey, the dictatorship of the proletariat appeared. And that’s the point. Want to express your opinion, write a treatise. Well, if you master ...
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 12: 01
                  -1
                  It is precisely that dictatorship is not the best form of government. Moreover, the dictatorship of the minority: the proletariat was not the majority in the country.
                  1. DNS-a42
                    DNS-a42 12 June 2020 13: 38
                    +1
                    Dictatorship is not a form of government, but the essence of any state.
                    The dictatorship of the proletariat is power in the interests of the working majority, and the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is the power of a parasitic minority.
                    1. AU Ivanov.
                      AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 13: 48
                      +1
                      The working majority in the Republic of Ingushetia was the peasantry, but not the proletariat. And what relation did the top Bolsheviks have to the proletariat?
                      1. DNS-a42
                        DNS-a42 12 June 2020 13: 52
                        0
                        The working majority are the proletarians and the peasantry. The top of the Bolsheviks expressed their interests.
                      2. Al_lexx
                        Al_lexx 13 June 2020 05: 07
                        0
                        Quote: DNS-a42
                        The working majority are the proletarians and the peasantry. The top of the Bolsheviks expressed their interests.

                        Those whom you call Bolsheviks, and specifically from the first ardent revolutionaries, never expressed the interests of the working people. Their leader, "grandfather Lenin," was in fact an inveterate cannibal and misanthrope. They were only interested in the world fire of the revolution and, as a consequence, some form of globalization, as it was then seen. The fact that propaganda sang to us for decades about the first fiery revolutionaries is sheer nonsense. The working people were just gullible cannon fodder for them. And the proletariat was in the forefront not because (as they said then and later) it was the most class-conscious. but because he was the most powerless and absolutely indigent, in his majority (those who had just arrived from the village to the city and they were the majority).
                        The interests of the workers were expressed by the Bolsheviks of the second wave of power, namely I.V. Stalin, who first of all multiplied by zero all internationalists, led by Trotsky and his entourage. And who (IVS), in fact, was the last emperor of Russia and a real statesman, although he was called differently.
                        Of course, there were decent people, among the first Bolsheviks, but not those who had real power in the upper echelon. At least there were an absolute minority of them.
            2. iouris
              iouris 12 June 2020 15: 26
              +2
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              The Bolsheviks picked up something, but did not want to share power with other parties.

              No one has ever shared power, especially with parties of an antagonistic class. The dictatorship of the ruling class is an honest understanding of the essence of the concept of "power".
    3. Doliva63
      Doliva63 12 June 2020 18: 25
      0
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Chubais is not needed there; everything is privatized in the States and without it. Lenin is needed there - a civil war is guaranteed.

      What did Lenin have to do with Civil? belay
  3. sergo1914
    sergo1914 12 June 2020 09: 15
    +5
    Quote: Partaktiv
    It was not for nothing that Trump was called Gorbachev and an agent of the Kremlin .. However, he was a lot of money ..))))
    We are waiting for the appearance of American Chubais and K .. !!!!!!


    Privatization will not work there. Everything is private. But the expropriation ... A leather jacket, a Mauser in a wooden holster, a mandate ...
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 11: 02
      -1
      Expropriation. Devastation, famine, civil war, epidemics. Although they already have an epidemic.
    2. Partaktiv
      Partaktiv 12 June 2020 11: 06
      -3
      Quote: sergo1914
      Quote: Partaktiv
      It was not for nothing that Trump was called Gorbachev and an agent of the Kremlin .. However, he was a lot of money ..))))
      We are waiting for the appearance of American Chubais and K .. !!!!!!


      Privatization will not work there. Everything is private. But the expropriation ... A leather jacket, a Mauser in a wooden holster, a mandate ...

      Chinganchuk with an AK assault rifle? It would be great if..
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 12 June 2020 22: 05
        0
        Quote: Partaktiv
        Quote: sergo1914
        Quote: Partaktiv
        It was not for nothing that Trump was called Gorbachev and an agent of the Kremlin .. However, he was a lot of money ..))))
        We are waiting for the appearance of American Chubais and K .. !!!!!!


        Privatization will not work there. Everything is private. But the expropriation ... A leather jacket, a Mauser in a wooden holster, a mandate ...

        Chinganchuk with an AK assault rifle? It would be great if..


        Chingachgook is a Trotskyist. So then Winneth. And Osceola.
    3. sabakina
      sabakina 12 June 2020 11: 26
      -1
      Quote: sergo1914
      Privatization will not work there. Everything is private. But the expropriation ... Leather case, Mauser in a wooden holster, mandate ...

      That's right!
  • Fuse angel
    Fuse angel 12 June 2020 08: 52
    10
    A strong socioeconomic and political crisis is needed to break up. The United States has many more resources. So today's situation is unlikely to lead to disintegration. In the end, America has experienced similar crises more than once and nothing has happened to it.
    Well, or you need to help them, for example, send Lavrov to distribute cookies to the demonstrators.)))
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 12 June 2020 08: 58
      -2
      Quote: Guardian Angel
      A strong socioeconomic and political crisis is needed to break up.

      This is already a reality ..
      Quote: Guardian Angel
      America has experienced similar crises more than once and nothing has happened to it.

      She had more strength then. Rather, energy. So we will see ....
  • rocket757
    rocket757 12 June 2020 08: 52
    +7
    Schaub to break up, it was necessary Schaub was a decaying organ \ center and a very, very LOT of babosikov !!!
    Where, who is the INTERESTANT ?, who benefits? Who has so much dough is not measured ???
    It seems that they just wanted to seize power from the trampoline !!! in such people there are enough babosiks!
    Of course, there is an element of surprise / unpredictability, sometimes control can be lost ... the element, the wave, it seeks to destroy ALL barriers, BUT, the guys are cunning, they drive the "herd" into the necessary "corrals" relatively quickly ... !! !
    In general, it’s interesting to look at all this .... from the side, of course !!!
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 12 June 2020 09: 21
      +2
      The direction is well viewed. The old man Soros (hello Antifa) and the dem party, it is not surprising that the toughest in the states and cities where Democrats rule.
      And the "young promising" politician Biden has already announced that Trump will rig the elections and then there will be a military coup. Only a little early they started the disco, it was necessary closer to the elections.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 June 2020 10: 04
        +1
        Quote: K-612-O
        Just too early they started the disco, it was necessary closer to the elections.

        Such a "savory" occasion has turned up !!! By itself, by itself, otherwise it would have had to be created. It’s clear that they’d slap it, it just seemed to someone that it shouldn’t be allowed to take its course ...
        So then they are right, so far, they succeed. Individual flocks were driven into a large, controlled herd!
        Stripes will not become fundamentally different, what kind of posters there would not be dragged / written right now ... just the coils can change.
        On from someone else, it will NOT BETTER!
    2. iouris
      iouris 12 June 2020 15: 33
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      necessary ... very, very LOT of babosikov !!!

      Capital is not money. Money is necessary for acquiring (at the market price) the ability to work or perform other functions (within the necessary time), as well as to ensure the exchange process of various entities with market value. 95% of everything in this world already belongs to 500 families (well, 5 thousand). Therefore, money will always be enough.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 June 2020 16: 09
        0
        No, no, didn’t smoke or smoke.
        Although, maybe I’m not smoking at all, Schaub understand this?
  • DVR
    DVR 12 June 2020 08: 54
    +1
    Danila Trumpov, Motherland will not forget you!
    1. Partaktiv
      Partaktiv 12 June 2020 09: 18
      -3
      Quote: DVR
      Danila Trumpov, Motherland will not forget you!

      Kirdyk to your America!
  • Far B
    Far B 12 June 2020 08: 54
    +7
    Sobsna, Baba Yaga does not mind if the United States falls apart. That's just fresh tradition, but hard to believe. However, the seeds are purchased. Just in case
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 09: 32
      +1
      Of course, I am normal towards blacks, but when white is forced to kneel before the white .... This is too much ... and then, everything is much simpler - the country consists of descendants of slave traders and slaves. Contradictions are not resolved. And the black president is not an indicator .... I think you bought seeds for good reason.
      1. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 12 June 2020 10: 08
        +4
        Yes, and Obama was, as it were, not completely black: half Jewish, half black, and not a descendant of slaves, that is, it was the descendants of the slaves who did not take him for their own. Mulatto in general, half-Jewish semi-slave
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 13: 43
          +1
          I agree. But think for a moment, the president of America is black. And this is some 30 years after the prohibition of racism. How the world is changing rapidly ... I won’t be surprised if the Kukluksklanites, with torches, also kneel down.) PS But I can hardly imagine a black Jew ...) Although, I respect Jews very much. Smart people.
          1. SASHA OLD
            SASHA OLD 12 June 2020 18: 00
            0
            Kukluksklanovites on their knees, black Jews ...
            Yes, only half a century after the abolition of racial segregation, everything turned upside down!
            Morgan Freeman (the one who is an everlasting black actor) regarding American democracy and his attitude towards Russia was especially struck by me at one moment.
            1. Andrei Nikolaevich
              Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 18: 20
              +2
              I agree. And I heard this little actress, for you. He gave an interview. Let them speak according to the texts of the directors. It hurts a little bit of a mind, a little bit poor .. So, nothing surprising ...
  • Eugen alpine
    Eugen alpine 12 June 2020 08: 57
    +4
    These are likely to get out. Tentacles drawn in, weaken feudal politics in Europe. Isolationism for a couple of years, in connection with the pandemic of course. The collapse of the Soviet Union and dividends from the unipolar world gave the United States a large financial margin of safety. But in any case, the Russian Federation and the whole world what is happening with the world gendarme will give a respite. Let's hope for a change for the better.
    1. really
      really 12 June 2020 10: 58
      -1
      With what. America bothered you
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 12 June 2020 08: 58
    +1
    French, neoliberal scribbler .... The crisis in the United States caused by neoliberal circles and an underlying power. And Trump will win the next election, because the white population only looks at this bacchanalia and is stocked up with cartridges ...

    In general, the USA has created neoliberalism, health, disintegrate as you like ... the bad thing is that the world economy will collapse if there are long unrest in Shchat and everyone suffers in this global world.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 12 June 2020 09: 08
      +2
      In general, the United States created neoliberalism, health, disintegrate as you want ... the bad thing is that the world economy will collapse
      If that collapses in this case, then only an American-centric economy. Yes, this is most of the countries. But not all, far from all.
      1. cniza
        cniza 12 June 2020 17: 45
        +2
        I would say that they created, but they will be banned for such words ...
    2. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 12 June 2020 09: 21
      -7
      Yes, yes, the owners insulted the Limitrof. They need to vote in defense ...
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 12 June 2020 09: 38
        +3
        Yes, yes, the owners insulted the Limitrof. They need to vote in defense ...


        Alexander .... didn’t it cross your mind to check the words you use?

        Word limitroph:

        1. Dictionary of D. N. Ushakov (1938) - LIMITROF, а, м. (Latin. Limitrophus - border) (polit. Nov.) The name of the states that formed after the October Socialist Revolution on the outskirts of the former Russian Empire: Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, as well as Finland.
        2. Webster's dictionary defines the etymology of the word English. limitrophe as French, which goes back to the late Latin limitrophus - “bordering on”

        I am a Bulgarian, but we are not bordering on you, and were not part of the Republic of Ingushetia. You can call us other offensive words, but for this you need to strain a little. Have a nice day bully
        1. edmed
          edmed 12 June 2020 09: 51
          +2
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Word limitroph:

          Quote: Keyser Soze
          I am a Bulgarian, but we are not bordering on you, and were not part of the Republic of Ingushetia.

          Wash off the meaning of the word can change, under "limitrophes" can be understood as countries that do not pursue an independent policy in relation to the hegemon.
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 12 June 2020 11: 10
          -4
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Word limitroph:

          So there is a mistake
          Limit (limit, province) + trophy (trophy, cup, prize) This title is awarded to notorious Russophobes. Do not take this rubbish, otherwise Poland will enslave you from mine to mozha bully
          I am Bulgarian, but we do not border, and were not part of the Republic of Ingushetia

          They were not in RI, but they were a protectorate of RI, which We recaptured from the Turks. And Bulgaria is a Black Sea country, as if bordering anyway. Happy Birthday to us, well, join the Bulgarians drinks
        3. stalki
          stalki 12 June 2020 11: 21
          -2
          LIMITROF, a, m. 1. The border area of ​​the Roman Empire, which was supposed to contain troops standing on the border.
          and in the modern transformation it means "a geopolitically unstable space between civilized platforms" Tsymbursky suggested such a formulation.
          Well, I don’t know how stable you are as a "space", population decline, corruption, criminal situation leaves much to be desired. So the person is partially right. And the country is not yet considered a full member of the European Union. So, on a leash. In addition, the European Union is a partial loss of sovereignty. Dream on.
        4. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 12 June 2020 13: 48
          -4
          Did you decide to teach me the Russian language? learn modern concepts, but don’t give me links to obsolete dictionaries ...
      2. Partaktiv
        Partaktiv 12 June 2020 11: 08
        -4
        Quote: Not a liberoid Russian
        Yes, yes, the owners insulted the Limitrof. They need to vote in defense ...

        Then such a nickname is time for everyone to accept ..)))))) This confusion on the site has become laughing
        P / S / I still remember there was a cool nickname "Banishing Liberoids" .. Lost forever !!!!!! wassat Sorry!
    3. edmed
      edmed 12 June 2020 09: 31
      +1
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      In general, the USA has created neoliberalism, health, disintegrate as you like ... the bad thing is that the world economy will collapse if there are long unrest in Shchat and everyone suffers in this global world.

      The United States is in the position of a toilet into which a pack of yeast was thrown, "sealing" fermentation is fraught, it can smell and
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      we will suffer everything in this global world.

      And therefore the action of the authorities is the expectation, when everything will ferment, "But this is inaccurate!", Just, as everything settles down, "organizational conclusions" will follow. "I think so!" what
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 12 June 2020 09: 06
    +7
    It will not be this. Why publish and discuss the ravings of all kinds of idiots, even if he is a Frenchman from the newspaper Le Figaro. This is nonsense, if only because there are no forces in the world who want collapse and sponsor the collapse of the United States. Moreover, the old robbers clashed there really, but they are not as stubborn now as Gorbachev and Yeltsin then. The red line is already drawn.
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 12 June 2020 09: 18
      0
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      This is nonsense, if only because there are no forces in the world who want collapse and sponsor the collapse of the United States.


      There are things that do not need to be sponsored. Coincidence and an energetic and intelligent person. October 1917.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 09: 27
        +1
        To ,, energy and intelligence, you are my friend, and add money .. How without them? ..)
        1. sergo1914
          sergo1914 12 June 2020 09: 29
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          To ,, energy and intelligence, you are my friend, and add money .. How without them? ..)


          Fantasies about Lenin littered with money are already quite tired.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 09: 34
            +1
            Interesting ... Do you think that the money Nadezhda Konstantinovna earned and transferred to V.I.? ..
      2. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 13 June 2020 04: 48
        +1
        Need a smart person, but also extras. And the extras need to be fed at least even in the form of a demonstrative distribution of Nuland cookies, with all the understanding that this gesture was purely a pointer to Yanukovych, they say, we can do it. As for the smart ones, I emphasize, aimed specifically at the revolution in the USA, they are still imperceptible, although there are more than enough energetic ones. Yes, and so it’s ideal that everything is gradually resolving.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 12 June 2020 10: 41
      -3
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      It will not be this. Why publish and discuss the ravings of all kinds of idiots, even if he is a Frenchman from the newspaper Le Figaro. This is nonsense, if only because there are no forces in the world who want collapse and sponsor the collapse of the United States. Moreover, the old robbers clashed there really, but they are not as stubborn now as Gorbachev and Yeltsin then. The red line is already drawn

      South Africa, after all, did not fall apart, although this is not the South Africa that was under apartheid. The fate of South Africa and Rhodesia is quite possible for the United States, and democrats, globalists, liberals and those who support them will be to blame. I strongly doubt that the black part of the population is capable of creating science, liners and engines for spacecraft, and the white part that kisses shoes black is unlikely to be capable of great achievements. And what kind of cohabitation there will be after these events? That great country which was called the USA is no longer there, but what it is is the Colossus with feet of clay, as they once called the USSR ..
  • APASUS
    APASUS 12 June 2020 09: 11
    +2
    I do not believe ! This is rightfully bothering Americans all over the world, in the USA not particularly. All riots will be crushed by the army in a couple of months and there will be democracy ............
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 12 June 2020 09: 18
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      Crush all riots by the army in a couple of months and there will be democracy .

      Interesting wording winked one could say ... complementary yes
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 12 June 2020 09: 25
        -1
        Quote: Terenin
        Interesting wording, one might say ... complementary

        All the biggest crimes in the US are done in the name of democracy. So, no wonder.
    2. Partaktiv
      Partaktiv 12 June 2020 09: 25
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Suppress all riots by the army in a couple of months and there will be democracy

      Most likely, but the crack will remain very deep ..
      I read somewhere that in the world in recent decades there has been a struggle for primacy between two Jewish clans .. They will not divide world domination .. Someone has relied on China and Russia .. Well, the dark thing is shorter
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 12 June 2020 09: 29
        -1
        Quote: Partaktiv
        Most likely, but the crack will remain very deep ..

        The crack has not been healed since the end of the 50s, it exists in the heads of people, because they still live in the USA who remembers this
  • Terenin
    Terenin 12 June 2020 09: 16
    +1
    Currently, the author claims, the US is experiencing immediately four crisis at the same time, and they are all associated with the coronavirus pandemic.

    Author, the State Department and Congress will not understand you No. They talk every day about Russian interference ... have you forgotten the "fifth element"? fool
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 12 June 2020 09: 16
    -3
    nefig of our efficient plant near the global bucket - would share everything ...
  • Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 12 June 2020 09: 18
    -4
    boomerang law .. ran into what they themselves have been doing in other states for more than a hundred years
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 June 2020 09: 24
    +2
    The collapse of the United States, this is the last thing the Russians need today. They store 54,5 billion green under mattresses. This is not to say about all kinds of oligarchs, offshore and cellists. hi
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 12 June 2020 11: 08
      -2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The collapse of the United States, this is the last thing the Russians need today. They store 54,5 billion green under mattresses.

      I don't care, I have nothing under the mattress. Fools, it’s not at all a pity. hi
    2. Non liberoid Russian
      Non liberoid Russian 12 June 2020 13: 51
      -4
      How do you know what Russians need? what a bad habit on this portal to yell for everyone?
    3. cniza
      cniza 12 June 2020 17: 42
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The collapse of the United States, this is the last thing the Russians need today. They store 54,5 billion green under mattresses. This is not to say about all kinds of oligarchs, offshore and cellists. hi


      And these are basically ordinary people who will suffer, but any empire is coming to an end and this does not mean that the United States will fall apart tomorrow ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 12 June 2020 18: 04
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        And these are mostly ordinary people who will suffer

        That’s what I wrote about.
        Quote: cniza
        but any empire comes to an end and this does not mean that the United States will fall apart tomorrow ...

        And not tomorrow, and not next week ...
        This was the first time I had heard the words America and the United States distinctly for myself in May 1960, when a U-2 reconnaissance aircraft manned by Powers was shot down. The teacher told us in the kindergarten that all these America and the states would soon rot with their capitalists and showed a poster where a terrible fat man in a cylinder with a cigar in his bared teeth was sitting on a huge bag from which money poured through holes.
        There is already neither that teacher, nor that kindergarten, nor that country ...
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 09: 25
    +1
    When in VO wrote that the United States is now similar to the USSR, in 1991, they put me a bunch of minuses ....
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 12 June 2020 09: 31
      -4
      But in vain, the processes are very similar in their sense, the execution is of course different, but the logic of events is similar. And yes, in the USSR then there was also a powerful army, to hell with money, but something went wrong.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 09: 35
        +1
        Thank you .. And getting on your knees reminds me of throwing party cards.
        1. Partaktiv
          Partaktiv 12 June 2020 10: 37
          -1
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Thank you .. And getting on your knees reminds me of throwing party cards.

          How did you pick clearly ... !!! Even the "formidable FBI" knelt down ha ha ha .. How familiar! It looks like experts in the export of color revolutions work at home (remotely) so as not to lose the specification ... wassat
    2. Partaktiv
      Partaktiv 12 June 2020 09: 33
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      When in VO wrote that the United States is now similar to the USSR, in 1991, they put me a bunch of minuses ....

      This is the US Congress minus you!)))))
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 09: 36
        +2
        !!!!!!)))) Old Nancy Pilosi? ..)
        1. Partaktiv
          Partaktiv 12 June 2020 10: 41
          +1
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          !!!!!!)))) Old Nancy Pilosi? ..)

          Almost ))))
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 12 June 2020 09: 44
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      I put a bunch of minuses ....

      Nikolaevich, a bunch of minuses, this is a dotted line, and the dotted line, this is a dashed line, and the line, this is already ... position wink
    4. for
      for 12 June 2020 20: 14
      -1
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      that the US now looks like the USSR, in 1991

      There is nothing in common there. They do not have the main thing, "the elite with full pockets of stolen money without the ability to freely spend and freely steal, but they could do it earlier, now and in the future, or they want to abolish it and build the SSSS.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 June 2020 09: 38
    0
    Yes, let them fall, we will not regret. Only need to resolve the issue with vigorous weapons.
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 12 June 2020 09: 40
    +4
    The collapse of the United States is certainly possible, but I'm afraid that at least half the world will be under these ruins ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 12 June 2020 17: 38
      +1
      This is so, few will say hello, but any empire is finite ...
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 12 June 2020 09: 44
    +4
    Faster would have already fallen apart
  • Dikson
    Dikson 12 June 2020 09: 49
    +4
    I read to the point about this murdered convict and threw it away .. A certain French woman predicts a revolution .. Also for me, Dubrovsky was found .. Pre-election squabbles with "pogroms" .. With so many weapons in hand, there are no mass shootings and street fights with the police and the white population .. Pogroms of small shopkeepers? Munich does not remind? Someone just needs a new Adolf. Not by washing, so by rolling the Third World War is needed .. The racism of blacks spilled over into the racism of whites for a long time .. and all these "predictions" of journalist analysts .. are no different from the predictions of our former finance minister with a greasy face ..
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 12 June 2020 10: 42
      0
      Someone just needs a new Adolf.
      ... That's right. Moreover, Adolf was brought to power and financed by military corporations ...
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 12 June 2020 10: 42
      -2
      At the expense of the shootings, things are not so smooth, and this is only the beginning of the disco, and give street fights to you already. If they start robbing downtowns where Vaspas live, there will be corpses, and there word by word it rushed. While robbing the city, where basically this shushara and lives.
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 12 June 2020 14: 09
        -1
        Why should they meddle in downtown ?! They feel good on the central streets too .. Nobody slows them down seriously .. America is a rich country, there you can take rags out of windows for a long time .. And, mind you .. - the "demonstrators" are in no hurry to release the "innocent black brothers" from prisons. . brigades on bicycles, skateboards and scooters, quickly moving through the streets, beat windows and set fire to cars and trash bins .. next come "protesters", busily stuffing bags with goods and go further .. And they are covered by hysterical girls jumping on police cars shouting about violence and racism .. and Trump fault ..) Remember the election campaign - as the Hollywood stars of the curve face and doused it with dirt .. something is not quite hear their voices .. They also niggas lick boots obviously ..
  • Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 June 2020 09: 50
    -2
    There will be a new civil war between north and south, as a result of which slavery will again be introduced laughing
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 11: 04
      +3
      And in the role of slaves will be white.
      1. cniza
        cniza 12 June 2020 17: 36
        +1
        If they do not wake up, then let them be slaves to the black overwhelming minority.
  • Oboznik
    Oboznik 12 June 2020 10: 03
    -8
    The USSR did not fall apart, it is just being updated!
    But the United States is a pseudo-state, it can fall apart for real .. There is no core of national, historical, etc. statehood!
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 12 June 2020 10: 18
    +4
    It is impossible to pass off wishful thinking ... and even more so to compare it with the collapse of the USSR, if only because there, in the leadership, there are no people who want to betray their country, and there are enough "chewing gum with jeans", unlike the USSR laughing All this organized entropy will end after the US presidential election.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 12 June 2020 10: 36
      -1
      This is precisely the issue of the conflict of the elites, on which the USSR was more affected. And the same thing is happening in the USA, only in Komsomol style, with a twinkle, after all, there are more leverage and slogans. But Trump was not able to clear the top of the management. Yes, and the governors can not be pressed, looking at the complete disobedience and frank demarches. The military also does not really help, even with the example of the National Guard, in vain, in due time, he banished the Mad Dog.
      And "chewing gum with jeans" is not enough for everyone.
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 12 June 2020 10: 27
    -3
    In the USSR, at the time of the collapse, there were no 5 ethnic bandits, there were no 500 million trunks in the hands of the population, and there was no debt exceeding the very cost of the USSR.
    So the United States will crash much louder, it’s good that this dump is far from us, Zaluzhi, even if we use nuclear weapons at home.
  • Fishery
    Fishery 12 June 2020 10: 37
    -1
    blacks need to be separated, in the states) zapadenok in Ukraine, and the norms will be all)))
  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 June 2020 10: 39
    -1
    Nonsense. TNCs rule the United States and the world. TNCs decided to "bleed" the American people a little to strengthen further power. Democracy did not bother them much. As soon as everything calms down, the screws will be tightened.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 12 June 2020 10: 42
    -4
    the disintegration of the United States will lead to the policy of the current President Donald Trump, who "plunges America into a civil war"
    fool fool fool The US will get its civil war because of the Clintonoids who do not recognize the election results (in truth, from a sore point to a healthy one)
    was the murder by police in Minneapolis of an African American George Floyd.
    Well, this .......... in the United States is rich. repeat
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 10: 46
    -7
    laughing
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Al_lexx
    All this is garbage. The USA will collapse under its own weight, its own colonial policy,

    Since Soviet times, I’ve heard that here ... just a little bit .. Nothing of course lasts forever, but while a fat one dries, a thin one dies ..
    A colonial policy and supports the dollar and the financial strength of the United States. Only an economically equal and smart rival can undermine the USA, but this undermining will threaten the whole world with war. And the USSR was smart and equal, especially before Khrushchev ..

    When the Roman Empire collapsed - we thought it was the end of the world laughing And it collapsed due to a banal lack of resources. They have no methods against Kostya Saprykin. Europe will have to string on skewers. It’s necessary to eat! laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 10: 53
    -6
    Quote: taiga2018
    The collapse of the United States is certainly possible, but I'm afraid that at least half the world will be under these ruins ...

    When the empire of the Mongols, Greeks, Rome collapsed, a bright future entered laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 10: 57
    0
    I see cute and funny pictures every morning, tearing my eyes and diving headlong into the abyss of the Internet.

    Severe and brutal American cops thoroughly and with genuine enthusiasm wash the feet of blacks - I’m not lying, it was! In Athens, Greek protesters demand from their government to repent for the slavery of American blacks. laughing

    In Seattle, pitch-black passionaries created their Empire from three quarters and now collect taxes there from bakeries, taxi drivers and shoe shops, wondering how to quickly achieve recognition of their independence at the UN. And in the dim light of the current realities, their hopes have every chance of a resounding success.

    Killed while detaining a petty black crook pathetically, with an orchestra and with live broadcasting on all television channels, they are buried in a golden coffin. And senators and policemen are kneeling before this mournfully caricatured procession. Negroes can be understood somewhere. From their difficult history today they extract a considerable gesheft, comfortably sitting on the neck of their fellow citizens, from which they differ only in skin color. For some generations, some families had not worked a single day for three generations - everyone mourned the unfortunate fate of their ancestors and counted grandmothers for the historical guilt of whites. At the same time, this approach turned this national minority into a dense layer of professional parasites that are not capable of any development.
  • Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 12 June 2020 11: 08
    +2
    The author of the article is simply from the camp who is against Trump and wants to kick him: "Trump is ruining America," the antithesis to Trump's "MAGA, MAGA".

    Opponents of Trump from the neoliberal camp just started the Wabank, they are playing out the contradictions between white and black with a sharp aggravation.

    Special services of the CIA, NSA, etc. judging by what happened earlier mainly on the side of the neoliberals, but the riots that Soros decided to arrange, etc. at a certain stage they decided to stop, because gone too far.

    Those. ARTificially organized riots will stop, but the mass media and the discord between democrats and republicans will only intensify, the gap, hatred, intransigence between ordinary people from different political camps will grow.
    As a result of the elections, new riots may arise due to disagreements between the Republican Democrats, white-colored, states (municipalities) against the federal center (Trump).

    All this has already happened lately, just repeat with a new scale, and given the synergistic effect, the consequences can be the most serious and uncontrolled.
    Is Trump to blame? in part.
    He has a rather passive role, but in the game of the ball against the wall, the role of the wall is also important, although others kick the ball.
  • Avior
    Avior 12 June 2020 11: 17
    0
    As long as I remember, as many States rot and fall apart.
    But now what catches your eye - with a huge amount of weapons in the hands of the population - there are no mass shootings.
    Which suggests either that the extent of the riots is exaggerated, or that they are much more controlled than seen from the outside.
    This is not the first riots of this kind, the same Los Angeles in 1992, and nothing, no one fell apart.
    A riot without a direct purpose and demands, for the sake of pogroms, will begin to cause protest among the part of the population that supported the protests at first.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 12 June 2020 11: 32
      +1
      "As long as I can remember, the States have been rotting and falling apart.
      But now what is striking is that with a huge amount of weapons in the hands of the population, there are no mass shootings. "

      This is being robbed and set on fire by large chain stores. Small shops and private houses (cottages-villas) will begin to rob, and they will begin to shoot and unite into armed squads and patrols.
      The police got up on the bast, the position does not help to protect or detain someone, and impunity is a direct encouragement of lawlessness and looting.
      1. Avior
        Avior 12 June 2020 12: 29
        -2
        So, robbing brains have enough of what they can rob and what not.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 11: 35
    -2
    Have you ever wondered how Predators rule the World? No? They govern the world through emotions, that is, by cutting off the intellect of society from decision-making. It is for this reason that the picture is so important, but not just the picture, but the emitting picture, it does not matter what kind of emotion it is, the main thing is that the patient’s mind is asleep or drowned out.

    They instilled guilt, forced to fall on their knees to repent - class ... And then what ??? Actually, this is what the Predator needs - to clean out his carcass from parasites before the war, and a very large number of blacks in the United States are hereditary welfarers, that is, parasites. Well, pennies more ... Well, since Operation Pandemic is rotten, a different means of stripping is needed, less clearly highlighting the Predator's goals, but at the same time protruding the "guilt" of others, and then poor fellow Floyd turned up at the right time. Yes, if it were not for it, it would have been done - if it were not there in another place, not in the USA, so in Europe ...
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 11: 38
    -2
    But HZ! From various points of view, this situevina is beneficial to everyone:

    Demos ruin the current one and gain their power, and then prove that Trump radish is a profit;
    Respects led by Trump will wait for a social explosion and will lead it - profit;
    Debts will be written off to afro-riots, that is, force majeure, - the economy crashed, and the insurance had nothing to do with profit;
    They forgot about the State Debt, there is a need to print greenery yet, but not a question - profit;
    BLM are promoted as yet another force that can be monetized - profit;
    The country does not in any way change its course, capitalism is forever, only it is necessary to slightly correct the wrong ones - profit;
    Yes, even if the country falls apart into separate states, those who tax them now are a profit, because the feds are bullied;
    ...
    The only losers are Joe, Pedro, Francois and Hans ... laughing In general, it seems that if the people there do not realize in a timely manner that they are being prepared for the massacre, there will be a war against everyone, and I suspect that about 30 percent of the extra population will be buried, and the rest will be formed into a starving gang for subsequent disposal in a new world war for other people's resources.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 12 June 2020 11: 53
    0
    I would be in favor if instead of a united US there were 50 disparate states. And in the UN, instead of the United States, something like "Texas" appeared. But this is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 12 June 2020 12: 15
    -1
    You should not take what is happening in the United States dogmatically, just as at one time the Soviet communists hoped for the growth of class struggle there, etc. This is not the first time that African-Americans have muddied the waters, they have not been pressed or oppressed for a long time, as it was in the "golden" years of the United States - they will bother and everything will settle down.
  • Fidel
    Fidel 12 June 2020 13: 32
    -1
    Awesome in depth analytics and richness of revelations article. Captain evidence nervously smokes in the corner)))
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 13: 52
    -3
    Quote: Avior
    As long as I remember, as many States rot and fall apart.
    But now what catches your eye - with a huge amount of weapons in the hands of the population - there are no mass shootings.
    Which suggests either that the extent of the riots is exaggerated, or that they are much more controlled than seen from the outside.
    This is not the first riots of this kind, the same Los Angeles in 1992, and nothing, no one fell apart.
    A riot without a direct purpose and demands, for the sake of pogroms, will begin to cause protest among the part of the population that supported the protests at first.

    laughing Well, yes, why did you pay for your holiday of life by robbing other countries? Have Pan Grytsian bloomers bloody why pay? laughing
  • Lontus
    Lontus 12 June 2020 13: 54
    0
    There can be no civil war in the United States because the population is armed (and only one side of the potential conflict) and has the ability to interact and consolidate information (unlike the Russians, which was then captured by the British during the German coup in RI 1917).
    The abnormal Zone in Seattle will collapse by itself if Trump has the patience not to interfere there by force.
    Just because leftists cannot create anything organized without external support.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 13: 57
    +1
    Biden threatens Trump with a military coup if he does not leave the White House in case of a defeat in the election laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 13: 58
    -3
    Quote: 16112014nk
    I would be in favor if instead of a united US there were 50 disparate states. And in the UN, instead of the United States, something like "Texas" appeared. But this is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.

    Never say no when. laughingAnd here there is a small moment - what can you do if half of the army recognizes "legitimate" power, and the other half "illegal" .... And it is quite possible that the gunners will be for Trump, and the mortarmen will be against .. "Polite people" in green camouflage will come and they will decide everything. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 14: 21
    -3
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    laughing
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Al_lexx
    All this is garbage. The USA will collapse under its own weight, its own colonial policy,

    Since Soviet times, I’ve heard that here ... just a little bit .. Nothing of course lasts forever, but while a fat one dries, a thin one dies ..
    A colonial policy and supports the dollar and the financial strength of the United States. Only an economically equal and smart rival can undermine the USA, but this undermining will threaten the whole world with war. And the USSR was smart and equal, especially before Khrushchev ..

    When the Roman Empire collapsed - we thought it was the end of the world laughing And it collapsed due to a banal lack of resources. They have no methods against Kostya Saprykin. Europe will have to string on skewers. It’s necessary to eat! laughing
    laughing
    Minusers - why opium for the people?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 14: 24
    -1
    Quote: Lontus
    There can be no civil war in the United States because the population is armed (and only one side of the potential conflict) and has the ability to interact and consolidate information (unlike the Russians, which was then captured by the British during the German coup in RI 1917).
    The abnormal Zone in Seattle will collapse by itself if Trump has the patience not to interfere there by force.
    Just because leftists cannot create anything organized without external support.

    Yes "deep" inference laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 14: 25
    0
    laughing The Fed's printing press is operating at full capacity: the regulator is struggling with a crisis in the economy, flooding the markets with cash. In the first quarter alone, cash emissions exceeded two trillion. The result is a 26 trillion state debt and a dollar depreciation risk. China, the second largest foreign lender to the United States, decided not to wait for the devaluation and is actively selling American debt securities. Interesting, but will it reach the machah between the hegemon and the successor?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 14: 29
    +2
    TV presenter and former presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak said that her friends living in the United States are fleeing their homes in horror due to the pogroms that began with the protests due to the death of 46-year-old African American George Floyd in Minneapolis after a rude arrest. This was reported by a 38-year-old journalist in her Bloody Mistress Telegram channel “My beloved America is smashed! And I’ve seen enough of the propaganda channels, my friends are writing to me, ”Sobchak shared the details. According to the secular lioness, her acquaintances hire guards and "flee from New York in horror."

    Ksenia emphasized that these people honestly worked all their lives to live in the central part of the metropolis. She assured that many of them deservedly became homeowners on 57th Street in Manhattan near Central Park.

    “And now the crowd of marauders with left-wing slogans simply says that their struggle is more important than private property,” Sobchak was indignant. The presenter said that this is a destruction of the basic principle of the United States, which she loved. laughing

    Earlier, Sobchak published a comic clip on his Instagram page in which the song “Forbidden Drummers” was sounded on the background of the black screen. Many internet users who follow the celebrity post have found the celebrity post offensive and racist.

    After some time, the famous Russian comedian and showman Alexander Gudkov explained the appearance of the publication as a punishment for the incomplete task in the Comment Out YouTube show, which they filmed.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 12 June 2020 14: 31
    +2
    one trip to Paris was enough for me not to want to go there anymore

    in short, do not be a sucker tourist
  • vargo
    vargo 12 June 2020 14: 56
    +1
    The Frenchman’s article was written with the aim of putting all the blame on Trump. I won’t be surprised if part of the game is paid for by Democrats. Of course, Trump is also to blame for something. But the biggest role now is played by the democrats. The confrontation entered a warm phase when even measures such as supporting protests are already being applied. Wherever you can see, Trump is forced to shed blood to remove him from his post, and even better to judge. He tries to avoid all this and at the same time he has no choice. So while all this apex gently slaps each other on the cheeks, some kind of anarchy unfolds below. Today it’s news that autonomy was organized in the Seattle area with the support of the mayor (democrat) and state (democrat), and they even ordered the police to leave the protest site and leave. This is simply not believed when you hear. Absurd delirium. They play out, they think everything is under their control ... Let's see. The saddest thing for them is that some went to the bank, and they have no turning back, which means they will go to victory. Let's see whose.
  • veritas
    veritas 12 June 2020 14: 59
    +2
    US predicted collapse following the example of the Soviet Union

    In the foreseeable future, the United States will not fall apart. Even the world oligarchs are not profitable, and then why should they fall apart.
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 12 June 2020 15: 29
    +1
    I haven’t read such idiocy for a long time ... Nicolas Bavre from Le Figaro is an amateur of the highest category ...
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