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To replace the "Solntsepek": for the first time shown "Tosochka"

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An image of a new product of the Russian army appeared on the Internet. Some Western resources initially mistook it for one of the types of MRAP - armored vehicles with increased mine protection. However, according to some expert sites, we have the long-awaited “Tosochka” before us.


This product is a modification of the TOS-1A Solntsepek system, widely known for its active participation in the Syrian armed conflict. "Cheburashka", as it was called abroad, literally burned massive areas, causing serious damage to the terrorists who sat on them.

The new version of “Solntsepek” in the person of “Socks” will allow, thanks to the wheeled drive, to actively maneuver equipment while firing. According to experts, in addition to the launchers, the new product is given a loading mechanism that allows dispensing with specialized ammunition load when loading ammunition. This will allow Tosochka to act more autonomously on the battlefield and reduce the time it takes to reload the system.

In recent years, in many armies of the world, the caterpillar track has been actively replaced by a wheeled one, since the latter significantly increases the maneuverability of equipment necessary for a quick change of position.



To replace the "Solntsepek": for the first time shown "Tosochka"
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  1. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 12 June 2020 05: 53 New
    34
    who and when spoke of the replacement? this system goes as an addition to the sun.
  2. gorenina91
    gorenina91 12 June 2020 06: 31 New
    28
    In recent years, in many armies of the world, the caterpillar track has been actively replaced by wheeled,


    - Strange ...- why rejoice at such a "crowding out tracked wheels." ???
    - Personally, I am not an expert in this field, but after all it became clear ...- when even during patrolling "in the sand"; cars immediately get stuck ... - they just have to turn off the highway and drive to the side of the road ... -This is constantly shown in the reports about patrolling in Syria and other desert sandy regions ...
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 12 June 2020 06: 42 New
      -10
      These vehicles are not battlefields, and driving routes must be explored in advance. And why move off the track into a swamp? Where there may be landmines. He came up, shot himself, and left. Climbing into the latrine is not necessary at all.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 12 June 2020 07: 06 New
        24
        Quote: Free Wind
        This is not a battlefield machine

        These are battlefield machines.
        Unless, of course, do nothing about duplicating MLRS artillery.
        1. vVvAD
          vVvAD 13 June 2020 08: 49 New
          +2
          I totally agree.
          As far as I remember, the maximum range of Solntsek missiles is 6 km, which, of course, is more than 4 for Pinocchio, but this is within the reach of the 3rd and, especially, 2nd generation ATGMs. Given that BM is on wheels, I have questions about its survival on the battlefield, and KAZ something on it is not noticeable. But the military knows better.
      2. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 12 June 2020 09: 28 New
        +5
        Yeah))) We arrived, stopped right on the track (which is not at all a fact that it wasn’t mined), shot back and so as not to "climb into the latrine", we retreated. Is that what you imagine? laughing laughing laughing
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    2. Victorio
      Victorio 12 June 2020 08: 58 New
      0
      Quote: gorenina91
      patrol time "in the sand"; cars immediately get stuck ... - they just have to turn off the highway and drive away to the side of the road ...

      ===
      Is it clear from the last few videos? as if cars hadn’t driven through the mud before, and nothing, they somehow coped with the tasks.
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 12 June 2020 10: 10 New
      +8
      More resources, the ability to independently navigate on the roads, and not on the trailer. Longer lifespan. More speed and mobility. Patency of course less caterpillar, but also rather big. The truck will drive a lot.
    4. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 12 June 2020 14: 04 New
      -1
      - Personally, I am not an expert in this field, but after all it became clear ...- when even during patrolling "in the sand"; cars immediately get stuck ... - they just have to turn off the highway and drive away to the side of the road ...


      wink wink wink The author probably talks about Norway.
    5. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 12 June 2020 18: 53 New
      -2
      we have a developed road network, so for a number of parts, wheeled vehicles are the most important thing, you don’t need to have a separate tractor to carry tracked vehicles, some units will switch to wheels completely
      1. vVvAD
        vVvAD 13 June 2020 08: 56 New
        +1
        What about the eastern part of the CEO and BBO? And this is most of the country.
        But such a machine is certainly needed and will find application as a cheaper and mobile one.
        1. Boris Chernikov
          Boris Chernikov 13 June 2020 21: 34 New
          +1
          if we have regions where wheeled vehicles are not very good, do we have to completely abandon them? We have some parts fully transferred to MTLB, but this does not mean that armored personnel carriers are not needed)
          1. vVvAD
            vVvAD 14 June 2020 10: 30 New
            +1
            Boris, my remark concerned only the network of roads in the eastern part of the country.
            Otherwise, I completely agree with you yes
  3. DVR
    DVR 12 June 2020 06: 36 New
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    “Cheburashka”, as it was called abroad, literally burned massive areas, causing serious damage to the terrorists who sat on them.

    The only known case when the TOC was called abroad "Chebarashka" is the statement of the speaker of the National Security Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko:
    1. DVR
      DVR 12 June 2020 06: 47 New
      16
      Then another meme walked)


      1. vVvAD
        vVvAD 13 June 2020 08: 58 New
        +2
        "If they have such" cheburashki ", then what kind of" crocodiles "do they have?" laughing
        1. DVR
          DVR 13 June 2020 09: 07 New
          +1
          Yes, really) Terminator famously muddied, hydraulic cylinders to control the position of the ears organically fit.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 June 2020 06: 49 New
      10
      Quote: DVR
      The only known case when the TOC was called abroad "Chebarashka" is the statement of the speaker of the National Security Council (NSDC) of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko:

      yes yes yes

      "Cheburashka" is our yes .



      Cheburashka in action.

      1. DVR
        DVR 12 June 2020 06: 53 New
        +3
        Yes, the author of the article was confused) Here on the site was about Cheburashka from the DPR.
  4. Andrey Vasilievich
    Andrey Vasilievich 12 June 2020 06: 37 New
    +3
    Abroad called "Pinocchio"?
    I thought Pinocchio is the first name of this system.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 12 June 2020 08: 24 New
      -1
      Quote: Andrey Vasilievich
      Abroad called "Pinocchio"?
      I thought Pinocchio is the first name of this system.

      This is Pinocchio good
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 June 2020 08: 57 New
      +8
      Quote: Andrey Vasilievich
      I thought Pinocchio is the first name of this system.

      "Pinocchio" is still the Soviet TOS-1 with 30 guides
      "Solntsepek" is the Russian TOS-1A with 28 guides, increased firing range and other improvements
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 12 June 2020 12: 21 New
        +8
        Quote: Spade
        "Solntsepek" is the Russian TOS-1A with 28 guides,

        With 24 guides ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 June 2020 14: 49 New
          +3
          Exactly.
          Removed the top six
  5. riwas
    riwas 12 June 2020 06: 39 New
    +3
    "Tosochka" is good, but in Syria, smaller installations were used to destroy buildings.

    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 June 2020 06: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: riwas
      "Tosochka" is good, but in Syria, smaller installations were used to destroy buildings.

      Such a mobile "gunner" (as I understand it, this is one of its options) is more suitable for irregular units (militias) than for full-fledged armies.
      1. riwas
        riwas 12 June 2020 07: 58 New
        +3
        Such a mobile "balloon"

        Nothing like this. The Iranian Falagh (Falaq) system is offered for export and is widely used by pro-Iranian forces in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. It is a universal self-propelled launcher based on the Kaviran SUV, which allows you to install on it both transport and launch containers with 220 mm Falagh-1 rockets and 333 mm Falagh-2.
      2. riwas
        riwas 13 June 2020 02: 36 New
        0
        What did I lead to this installation? How to adapt the "Sun" to the destruction of the building during the battle in the city. In the city it’s "crowded", a range of 2 km is in most cases enough - which means you can make the projectile shorter. And a lot of guides are not needed - 4-6 pieces. Then they can be placed on the Uran-9 robot.
        1. vVvAD
          vVvAD 13 June 2020 09: 29 New
          +1
          In general - nothing. The problem is the low declination angles in urban areas. Make mortar declination angles - you lose accuracy. Stabilization systems will prove to be ineffective, otherwise high-precision mortar systems would be equipped with them as technically simpler rather than flight correction systems with laser target illumination.
          And why should a city be turned into rubble?
          Mortars with penetrating warhead warheads are more suitable. Jewelry work and an even easier installation platform as a plus.
    2. greshnik80
      greshnik80 12 June 2020 12: 42 New
      0
      Let's learn how to distinguish multiple launch rocket systems from heavy flamethrower systems. These are different things. And then one day you will come to the point that the Germans used in World War II Big Bert.
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        13 June 2020 22: 59 New
        +1
        and how to distinguish them? In fact, the RSZO
    3. vVvAD
      vVvAD 13 June 2020 09: 11 New
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      Quote: riwas
      "Tosochka" is good, but in Syria, smaller installations were used to destroy buildings.

      Yes, it was - on the part of the Syrians. But there’s not much in common between them - well, perhaps, the distance of fire: neither you TB BP, nor MLRS does this turn out to be called, although, yes: there are 2 guides, which means that it is already a salvo. laughing Well, I suspect that the accuracy (although, rather, it is about the accuracy of a single launch) of fire or the range is lower due to the simpler missile stabilization system (if there is any) and, I believe, the absence of a central missile defense on the launcher.
  6. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
    ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 12 June 2020 06: 56 New
    +2
    A very bad trend, the transition from tracked to wheeled chassis.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 June 2020 07: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: ANDREI MIKHAILOV_2
      A very bad trend, the transition from tracked to wheeled chassis.

      What makes you think that there will be a "complete transition"?
      It's about complementing one with another ...
      1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
        ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 12 June 2020 08: 41 New
        0
        Sorry, but I didn’t write a full transition from the tracked to the wheeled chassis, but the latest news presented by the self-propelled gun is the MSTA, on the wheeled chassis, now Solntsepek, tomorrow the tank, but not for Russia all this, probably like that.
  7. Alexander Seklitsky
    Alexander Seklitsky 12 June 2020 07: 04 New
    -1
    In recent years, in many armies of the world, the caterpillar track has been actively replaced by a wheeled one, since the latter significantly increases the maneuverability of equipment necessary for a quick change of position.
    This is good ... that means they’re not going to fight with Russia laughing
  8. Karaul73
    Karaul73 12 June 2020 07: 08 New
    0
    Quote: Free Wind
    These vehicles are not battlefields, and driving routes must be explored in advance. And why move off the track into a swamp? Where there may be landmines. He came up, shot himself, and left. Climbing into the latrine is not necessary at all.

    And the enemy, in your opinion, will be present only near highways?
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 12 June 2020 07: 21 New
      +6
      I guess, yes. along roads and tracks. Why go somewhere in the swamps? It has always been so, and probably will be so. Large military units in the middle of the swamps have nothing to do. Well, air and satellite intelligence decides a lot.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 12 June 2020 07: 24 New
        +7
        Quote: Free Wind
        Why go somewhere in the swamps? It has always been so, and probably will be so. Large military units in the middle of the swamps have nothing to do.

        Those who planned and successfully implemented Operation Bagration did not know about this ...
        1. Free wind
          Free wind 12 June 2020 07: 29 New
          +1
          They knew. therefore, technical facilities were built. And did not climb into the latrines.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 12 June 2020 07: 38 New
            +1
            Quote: Free Wind
            They knew. therefore, technical facilities were built. And did not climb into the latrines.

            And now does it mean that they do not give a damn about experience and examples, they will not build anything and stupidly climb into "latrines"?
            1. Free wind
              Free wind 12 June 2020 07: 42 New
              -5
              Yes exactly. Not sure about the mental abilities of the generals and the general staff.
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 12 June 2020 10: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: Free Wind
                Not sure about the mental abilities of the generals and the general staff.

                Where are they up to you ?! laughing And you yourself, to what heights have you risen? What part of BUSW do you own?
        2. vVvAD
          vVvAD 13 June 2020 09: 39 New
          +1
          Someone from hoary antiquity could still be cited as an example (to illustrate that the indicated train of thought is incorrect initially)? Hmm hannibal good
          Not swamps, of course, but the essence does not change.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 June 2020 07: 31 New
    +7
    in many armies of the world, the caterpillar track is actively replaced by a wheeled one, since the latter significantly increases the maneuverability of equipment
    Strongly disagree with the author. If the armies of some countries intend to move only along the autobahns, then this is their problem (by the way, the Germans were very aware of these problems in the European part of the USSR in 1941-43). A wheeled chassis on heavy equipment only complements the tracked one and in some situations it is preferable, but no more.
    1. sen
      sen 12 June 2020 09: 41 New
      +3
      In the Middle East, they prefer a wheeled chassis. So that’s all right. We will sell "Tosochka" abroad.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 12 June 2020 10: 21 New
        +3
        Quote: sen
        In the Middle East, they prefer a wheeled chassis. So that’s all right. We will sell "Tosochka" abroad.

        Today, the Central Asian direction is open to us. The border with Kazakhstan is practically not equipped. The Kazakhs have about the same with the Turkmens, Uzbeks and Kyrgyz. I think the possibility of creating artillery barriers in these areas will not be out of place for us. A wheeled chassis will allow you to create a group of shock forces in the right place for the shortest possible time.
        1. Eugene-Eugene
          13 June 2020 23: 03 New
          0
          what is open there? in the Central Military District, in fact, the 2nd tank was formed to keep the blow from the underbelly
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 14 June 2020 06: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            what is open there? in the Central Military District, in fact, the 2nd tank was formed to keep the blow from the underbelly

            Russian-Kazakh border 7600! km In engineering terms, not equipped, does not have a normal full-fledged cover. And then, the army is not involved in cross-border conflicts. And it is precisely this that threatens various bearded people flocking to the north of Afghanistan. After Nazarbayev’s departure, Kazakhstan is drifting toward nationalism. Uzbekistan today is completely "both yours and ours." Turkmenistan is a dark horse. And in each republic of the CA, special services of China and the USA are very active. Problems there may erupt at any moment. Already in 2019, in the north of Afghanistan, the Ishilovites numbered tens of thousands. Why are they there? Who sent them there? What are their goals for the near future? Only in one case will they sit there more or less quietly if we possess the mobile groups of their guaranteed destruction. And this must be periodically demonstrated to them in the form of various exercises .... About 2 TA in more detail is it possible? With the places of the main connections ....
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 June 2020 09: 16 New
    0
    The main thing is that the barmalei do not complain.
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 12 June 2020 10: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      The main thing is that the barmalei do not complain.

      And even if they complain, we can quickly “object”. Wheels for this will only be a plus, as a means of quick response.
  11. Tuzik
    Tuzik 12 June 2020 09: 19 New
    +5
    Considering the short range, the sun is always at the forefront among the tanks, but how will the shovel protect the crew compared to the tank chassis?
    1. Genry
      Genry 12 June 2020 12: 02 New
      -2
      Quote: Tuzik
      given the short range, the sun is always at the forefront

      Range 6 km. And why "always"? Approaching at the time of impact and immediately back. The probability of getting under fire is very small.
  12. 013Azer
    013Azer 12 June 2020 11: 21 New
    0
    If there are changes, i.e. improvements in TTX, then it is necessary to apply these improvements in the tracked version (TOS-1A) and update it too.
    No offense, but only a completely distant person in this matter can argue that Tosochka is a continuation / replacement of TOS-1A.
    TOS can replace Tosochka at any time, both in the city and in the mountains, and Tosochka will not always replace TOS.
    In addition, Tosochka has more dimensions. But the car is like a new system, cool.
  13. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 12 June 2020 17: 41 New
    0
    But what, "Solntsepek" has exhausted its capabilities? ..
  14. Boris Chernikov
    Boris Chernikov 12 June 2020 18: 55 New
    +1
    The idea itself is interesting, of course ... but ... the point? Isn’t it easier to adapt the Tornado-S to the tasks it is trite due to new missiles and modernization of the LMS?
    1. Yarhann
      Yarhann 13 June 2020 13: 00 New
      +1
      MLRS Grad is artillery, Solntsepek is a flamethrower. They have a range that is simply different at times, the city has a minimum of 1500 meters, and the TOC has a maximum of 4500. And the application is essentially different - Grad for any conflicts - has a mountain of different ammunition for solving different tasks, TOC for local and police missions - it essentially fires within the line of sight of thermobaric ammunition - there is nothing cluster, anti-tank, concrete-piercing, etc. But the flamethrower has a big plus: high accuracy and very high efficiency when biling the biped.
      Therefore, CBTs are probably assigned to the RCB and, as a rule, go to enhance any compounds. On a wheeled chassis, it seems to me that they can attribute it already in a more specialized way — that is, in the BB, police special forces or the Russian Guard.
      There is no sense on the caterpillar track for TOS at all, during its invention it was put on such a move because the installation itself was quite heavy, but the equipment was not for combined arms combat - it was very vulnerable because of its short range
      1. Boris Chernikov
        Boris Chernikov 13 June 2020 21: 36 New
        0
        So what's the problem? short distances is impossible? so MLRS stands in the rear and works on orders, but for accuracy, write down the shooting mode in the LMS and the accuracy will not be worse
        1. Yarhann
          Yarhann 13 June 2020 22: 31 New
          0
          more range - more scatter) well this is lyrics. Here, rather, the meaning is the big difference in the power of the ammunition. If the RS Grad weighs 60 kg and has a warhead of 18 kg of which only 6 kg of explosives. That RS TOS weighs 175 kg while thermobaric warhead 75kg - that is, the percentage of the weight of the entire charge is incomparably greater. And the impact of OFS Grad strikes with splinters, TOC strikes with a blast wave (especially when the explosives overlap) and temperature. That is, hail is good for defeating manpower in an open area, TOS in shelters.
          1. Boris Chernikov
            Boris Chernikov 16 June 2020 21: 44 New
            0
            no one forbids making ammunition for a volumetric explosion for Grad, and it is possible to make a reduced range in favor of the size of warheads
            1. Yarhann
              Yarhann 17 June 2020 08: 41 New
              0
              that is, to put in a munition hail weighing 60 kg, warhead TOC weighing 75 kg)) magic))
              1. Boris Chernikov
                Boris Chernikov 17 June 2020 16: 31 New
                0
                for a number of tasks, the full package is redundant, so in the same Syria they hit half or even several shells .. and I repeat, the launch range of the BM-21 is higher
                1. Yarhann
                  Yarhann 17 June 2020 19: 09 New
                  0
                  for the launch range there is a HURRICANE - with thermobaric ammunition of about the same power as the TOC and about the same hit accuracy as the hail - that is, somewhere almost got there. He hits exactly the target - an excellent weapon when conducting police missions - I don’t know how it works there, but if you screw a small UAV and make optical guidance. That car will be perfect in police missions - that's how it was used in Syria
                  1. Boris Chernikov
                    Boris Chernikov 17 June 2020 21: 35 New
                    0
                    for police purposes and Bumblebee enough) do not make a fuss. We have only 200 units of hurricanes in the troops and they are shattered according to artillery brigades. But Gradov we already have 500 units in the troops and they regularly have motorized rifles, i.e. give the necessary ammunition and that’s all, And if you take Tornado-G as the base, then you just need to add the LMS ..
                    1. Yarhann
                      Yarhann 17 June 2020 22: 27 New
                      -1
                      )))) yes who are you going to scare with a bumblebee))) except that the barmaleis surrounded in the sheds in the settlements of the KBR and Dagestan, but not the entrenched soldiers in the city ruins of Damascus, Idlib or in the mountains of the Chechen Republic).
                      Once again I repeat TOS is not about combined-arms combat use, this is a machine for police missions that is how they were used in Syria. In the 19th year, exercises were held involving TOS in the combined battalion to strengthen tank units. According to the results, they decided to form flamethrower companies in all HEs and obviously not wheeled vehicles would go there. So you can engage in self-hypnosis as much as you like that Grad can replace TOS, but a tracked TOS will go to strengthen tank forces and motorized rifles, and a wheeled vehicle will go to strengthen explosives and other security forces in police missions.
                      1. Boris Chernikov
                        Boris Chernikov 19 June 2020 00: 39 New
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                        and since when the battles in the city of a la Damascus .. became "police missions" .. you don’t confuse a finger with a booty, Tosochka has one plus-availability of wheels and mobility, so it makes sense to consider the issue, because the military has always been creatures, therefore, they have TOSs in separate RKhBZ troops and are engaged in stupid things in the form of “you are subordinate” to the constant, therefore, by the way, they spat in the Design Bureau and made the RShG, because Bumblebees can only be used by chemists, and only with special blessing ... So why don’t you write nonsense .. And yes ... and the FSVNG knows that the TOSs promise them?)))) You probably forgot to explain why the tosska on wheels))
                      2. Yarhann
                        Yarhann 19 June 2020 08: 22 New
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                        Nobody talks about promises, talk about reinforcement in the same CTOs - look at the composition of the combined detachments when they drove barmales to the mountains of Chechnya.
                      3. Boris Chernikov
                        Boris Chernikov 20 June 2020 14: 15 New
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                        Hmm .. funny) maybe wheeled tanks will also be directed to reinforcements in the WHO? If you have an idea fixed, then leave it to yourself, Do not take the stupidity to the masses
                      4. Yarhann
                        Yarhann 21 June 2020 13: 00 New
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                        Well, as if during the cleansing of Chechnya from the NBF BB and the cops were reinforced by tanks - this is normal, this is after the storming of Grozny in the second company, when all this evil spread to the republic. And the fact that during the CTO some kind of barrel artillery is often needed is a fact. Look at the composition of the combined units during the CTO in the UK - there is always a mortar calculation, or even more than one. Recently, our military-industrial complex presented a mortar based on the Tiger - an ideal machine for police missions. And such a powerful system like TOC and even on a wheeled drive - in general a charm - to pick out barmaley from caches.
                      5. Boris Chernikov
                        Boris Chernikov 22 June 2020 19: 49 New
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                        who hit you on the head with the CTO regime that you were fixated on it? The wheeled version is the answer to the modern realities of the battle, when equipment needs to be transferred hundreds of kilometers along the front line, and taking into account the fact that for each pieces of equipment, whether it is a launch vehicle, TZM, SEM or KShMka, a tank transporter is needed, it came to the thought to create the wheeled version of the flamethrower system-firepower is the same, but the costs and cost of the device itself are less, and mobility is many times greater. My claim is in the staff structure, in which the flamethrowers are subordinate to the RCBM, which imposes a number of limitations. therefore, I propose to develop missiles and adapt the Tornado-G ASG to thermobaric ammunition, there will not be problems with accuracy, but at the same time the MLRS in the troops are already quite a lot, more than 110 launchers should be accurate, and given that ALL BM-21 should be replaced, they will be under 600 launchers..This will automatically allow you to effectively destroy enemy strongholds, even if it’s militants, even conventional infantry due to thermobaric ammunition, yes, power is less, but each missile will be equivalent to 2 Bumblebees-for, and if the rocket itself is processed, then it’s also possible for three bumblebees to gouge any bunker and for 2 rockets, GP for half the package, and RP for the package
  • Yarhann
    Yarhann 12 June 2020 23: 05 New
    -3
    wheeled vehicles - this is a technique for police operations, that is, to strengthen the explosives or special forces of the police, etc. This weapon is not for the army (at least not the Russian one) - therefore, snot can not be let out.
  • vVvAD
    vVvAD 13 June 2020 08: 50 New
    0
    Strange somehow: The photo is claimed, but not presented. Bridging the gap:
    1. Igar
      Igar 13 June 2020 10: 01 New
      0
      I mean, not presented? In the middle of the text is a tweet
      1. vVvAD
        vVvAD 13 June 2020 13: 56 New
        0
        A tweet is, of course, great. But it is on a third-party resource that will not be opened from any AWP wink
  • Vipirozhnikow
    Vipirozhnikow 13 June 2020 14: 14 New
    0
    Quote: stock buildbat
    Yeah))) We arrived, stopped right on the track (which is not at all a fact that it wasn’t mined), shot back and so as not to "climb into the latrine", we retreated. Is that what you imagine? laughing laughing laughing


    The person who participated in the database will not imagine this in any way. Such nonsense is the destiny of couch analysts.
  • Alexander Yulievich Trukhmanov
    Alexander Yulievich Trukhmanov 13 June 2020 15: 37 New
    +1
    From Pinocchio to Tosochka - a big step forward. Burn the adversary to the jamble. The zoo comes ...
  • VicktorVR
    VicktorVR 13 June 2020 16: 44 New
    0
    Somehow, it settled on the back is unpleasant for the eyes ... Or the wheels are not enough ...
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 13 June 2020 17: 26 New
    +1
    I read the comments, the author gave an example of the use of Couplings in Syria, and thus focused on desert TVDs, it is possible that the wheelbase is intended for other TVDs, where the road network will allow, due to speed, to reach the opening line of fire. I do not exclude that this is an export economy version of our defense industry for countries that are not able to buy and, accordingly, service Solntsepeka on the basis of the tank ...
  • 013Azer
    013Azer 13 June 2020 20: 38 New
    +1
    A special barn of ammunition for the system of "Enemy barbecue" somewhere in Azerbaijan.
    (Photo by MO)

  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 14 June 2020 00: 34 New
    0
    I want a new name for any weapon - Moldovan