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Do you want a new constitution? Receive and sign!

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Do you want a new constitution? Receive and sign!

In general, in Russia there is not enough monument. Monument to the TV. Something like a monument to Zvorykin, the inventor of this thing, but vice versa.


That monument, which is worthy of the population of our country, should look the other way around: a huge TV hanging over a crowd of small people beating in ecstasy.

Here are some thoughts that inspire such thoughts.

As an epigraph, I would like to take the words of our reader Valery:

“This article is a recognition of defeat! I agree - you (I’m the author of the article) lose! I’m sure the People of Russia will vote for amendments to the Constitution, and thereby inflict a devastating blow on Westerners and teachers who want to ruin our Power. ”

(Spelling saved.)

Now, if you take according to Valery, then Russia has no greater enemies than Westerners and pederasts. And after all, many are sure of this, thanks to my native TV! It worked in full.


I would like to ask: where are they, these hosts of buggers who want to ruin your Power? If we have, then where are the FSB, FSK, MVD, Rosguard and other scary letter combinations looking?


If abroad, then what does the Constitution have to do with it, if it is, so to speak, “for internal use”?

It is clear that there are no other problems in the country, except for the terrible crowd of pederasts who are ruining our foundations and statehood. There are no problems in culture, in social programs. Well, medicine has shown itself in all its glory in dealing with the virus.

Although no, there is also the Dark Lord Liberal, aka Alexey Navalny. Also a terrible liberal force, which is just waiting for the moment to ruin Russia.


And so too many believe. And believe in it.

And here comes an old saying about the cross and cowards. Or or. Indeed, on our pages very often anathema is made of certain liberals, who are also called "liberalists." Say, they, liberals, are the main enemies of Russia. And it is they who will sell it, destroy it, destroy it. Just give free rein and opportunity.

You begin to understand, ask questions: who is it, dear readers? The answers are not encouraging variety. Bulk. Bulk and the rest. Bulk and liberals.

In general, you will inevitably begin to respect Navalny. Voldemort and Sauron in one bottle. A kind of omnipotent Evil, with which "all the royal cavalry and all the royal army" can not control.

Strong The Dark Lord, strong ... One word - Liberal. It’s just right to scare children.

However, what about those who oppose him? Who are they? Those who are for President Putin and his team? Who are they? Communists, or what?

No, they are ... liberals!

And here the brain resolutely says “Stand! Think!" How is it that everything is against the liberals, for Putin, and he is a liberal ...


Well, that's the opinion, right? Not the last person in his clip says. Do not believe it? Okay, what about Himself?


But this?


And how should this be regarded? Liberals who are against liberals liberalizing our society? What about Putin?

As a result, the output is a complete mess in the head, in the system. The system wedges, and it already starts to fail. Tens, moans, thousands of people against liberals who want to ruin our unfortunate country, sell everything at a cheap price, take money abroad into offshore and in general, there is no worse enemy for Russia than a liberal.

At the same time, Putin is a liberal. Medvedev is a liberal. Nabiullina, Pamfilova, Tereshkova, Gref, Chubais - all as one liberals. Take the government and Putin’s team — not a single communist. Only used, former.

So who are we talking about? What kind of liberals? Are there several types of them? Sorry, sturgeon is only one freshness, as the immortal genius Mikhail Afanasyevich said. So liberalism is only one.

Liberalism (from lat. Liberalis - free) is a philosophical and sociopolitical movement that proclaims the inviolability of human rights and personal freedoms.

And there is nothing of the kind in the wording ... Human rights and freedoms - this is the main and main thing!

But let us leave aside those liberals who want to ruin Russia and talk about liberals who want to build in Russia. Although, as for me, there are neither the first nor the second. There are just liberals who want to. They want to live well. It seems like for the people.

And now the people hired changes to the Constitution. Well, the truth is, we ourselves discussed how much, about the ruble, which is the appendage of the dollar, about rights, the law ... the Central Bank, guarantees and all that.

Here, get it. The Constitution, which is amended by more than 400 amendments, is in fact the new Constitution. Wanted - sign in receipt.


We (including myself) criticized (quite rightly) the old Constitution. Yes, it was created “on the knee”, but what’s there, it’s just written off from the American one.

True, for some reason there is not a word about the ruble. And the Central Bank does not need to be touched. He is one of the best in the world. And Nabiullina is one of the best leaders of national banks in the world. That's what the British say, and we all know perfectly well that Britain is a friend of Russia. The best. No wonder all the liberals who are ours and the oligarchs who do not exist in Russia at all, they buy houses and apartments for themselves there. And there they raise children and granddaughters with granddaughters.

But what has been done in terms of amendments is also sometimes surprising. And what they contributed, and how we will vote. Moreover, the surprise is quite justified and logical.

30 days for “amendment analysis work”. Well, yes, the “working group”, assembled in an emergency mode, according to the media, managed to sit down three times. And then the State Duma adopted all the amendments in the first reading.

And really, what a long time to sit? Nevertheless, there are already laws; everything works. And it has been working for a long time. The question is how, if at all, works.

In fact, there’s no point in discussing all the 400 plus amendments. It is interesting, but despite the fact that the amendments are planned to be accepted in bulk, they show an obvious division into different target audiences.

In general, it reminds me of food packages from the 80s of the Soviet Union. The so-called "rations", which were implemented at enterprises. Soviet will not let lie, it was interesting there. Along with really useful things (from the point of view of one part of the population), any stale stuff, often not quite edible, was stuffed there.

But in our case, something will fall over to everyone.

For example, adherents of faith in the KhPP, “sharp breakthrough” and “real rise” have enough amendments regarding indexations, the level of the minimum wage and so on. Yes, of course, it’s good when the main document guarantees something. The minimum wage is not lower than the subsistence level.

The whole problem is that some promise compliance, but others do it. And there are a lot of nuances.

I’d like the milk package to have a guaranteed capacity: liter. Like before. And now there may be as many as you like. From 830 to 1000 grams.




This is all, incidentally, provided by law. Which just doesn't work. Minimum wage, and who will abolish inflation? And how can its growth be envisaged by one line of the Constitution? Yes, everything is in the laws. Who knows in which and for how long they have not been working?

In general, for 20 years the state has been fighting poverty so well that some are already on the verge of poverty. There were not just many promises to combat poverty, they were systematically and regularly made, on “direct lines” and in election programs. Sense? It’s safe to say zero.

Maybe I'm wrong, and after the July 1 vote, prices will skyrocket? Because everything will now be spelled out and guaranteed by the Basic Law?

I doubt it. To the gentlemen oligarchs, whom we do not have, to lose profit is somehow not serious. Therefore, prices will continue to rise. First of all, for fuel, and then everyone else will follow them. Which, in fact, is happening.

Therefore, prescribe a rich life in the Constitution or not - it will come only when the laws begin to work.

Another example. A bunch of amendments to the suffrage. Ah, how everyone liked that people with dual citizenship can no longer be elected. Their own crowds of deputies tried to get through. And now - that's it.

But forgive me, all these amendments were in the Federal Law of June 12, 2002 No. 67-ФЗ "On Basic Guarantees of Electoral Rights and the Right to Participate in the Referendum of Citizens of the Russian Federation."

Do you understand? They just took points from the law and transferred them to the Constitution. But if the law did not work until today and criminals, thieves, crooks, citizens of the two countries crawled into the deputies, then it simply did not work for 18 years. And whether it will work now that the points have been transferred to the Constitution, it is difficult to say.

Here, it seems, the goal is somewhat different, political. Which is presented to us as the fact that these amendments will strengthen our sovereignty. Sorry, but the key to independence, that is, sovereignty is a stable developed economy, a solid monetary unit and a good army.

Well, a few words about the changes in the Federation Council and the Constitutional Court. Well, the fact that the Federation Council is completely “manual” and at the first click of your fingers will vote for anything in its entirety is not a secret. And further its role is unlikely to change, what amendments there do not introduce.

With the Constitutional Court is even more interesting. The number of judges will be reduced, the president will be able to dismiss them in the “case of what” with the approval of the Federation Council. Interestingly, SF approve or how? In general, the COP will become a very strange tool.

What is the Council of State, why and who needs it - this is a separate issue. A new structure with incomprehensible powers, and most importantly - tasks. But once you need ...

Well, the most interesting. As the whole country is stubbornly trying to drag on this vote.


Already in Moscow, dozens of cases of “recommendations” to public sector employees began to vote remotely / online on mos.ru. Naturally, “for” the amendments and in some places with the subsequent provision of confirmation of the “correct” vote. A wave of complaints and indignation has already begun.

First of all, it began in educational institutions, but municipal service enterprises have already gone into business.

But there are enough oddities already. There is such a thing as election transparency. What is planned for July 1 is somewhat different from world standards.

By itself, a tripled term for the discussion of amendments is not the best that could be done. Many are interested, but no one really could say why such a haste.

Unlike a referendum, unrelated amendments are adopted in one package. No variability, no freedom. Yes, the Kremlin calls this vote a “vote of confidence in Putin,” but trust in the president is one thing, and constitutional amendments, albeit proposed by the president, are still different.

The direct participation of the CEC in the campaign immediately removes this organization from the list of neutral and impartial observers and contradicts the status of the CEC as an organization responsible for fair elections.

In addition, voting in a pandemic is not the easiest thing to do. Here, we can immediately note a shortened protocol and a limitation on the work of observers. It seems not to be fatal, it is clear that “stuffing” is hardly to be expected, but there is some sediment.

And here it is also necessary to add on the fact that the CEC’s campaign is “informing,” and any statements “against” - illegal campaigning begins immediately.

But, in general, I repeat: it is completely incomprehensible where such a fierce rush comes from. Three days ago in Moscow everything was sad, there was no discussion of any parades and voting, but here again - and all the bans were canceled. And immediately, as the people were released into the fresh air, the morbidity and mortality did not go down - they flew.

But in my city, despite all these types of restrictions and a seemingly masked regime, the number of infected people continues to grow.


And I’m sure that in Moscow everything is exactly the same. But statistics is such a delicate thing, there, as I looked, I counted - so it happened.

But it is necessary, necessary, very necessary that everyone vote for these amendments. It is clear that the main one is the 81st article of the old Constitution, that is, zeroing. But the election is not tomorrow. That is not this year. And not even the following. And in the Duma elections, EP is expected to win again, because it will win.

And here the most terrible question arises: what does the coming day prepare for us?

Why is there such a rush?

What will follow the adoption of these amendments?

No, it’s clear that you should not expect something epoch-making and good. As was the case with the pension, it seems like a reform, but in reality it is somewhat different. At that time, opinions were also almost asked of us, although the people shouted that we did not support, did not approve.

As a result, received. In full. Despite the protests.

What is it they want to stir up that popular approval is needed? It’s scary to imagine even.

In general, all this katavasiya would look funny and sad, if it happened in any other country. But here, alas, everything is not the same as in the rest of the world.

However, we wanted a different constitution? We will get it. Without any doubt.

The fact that it is somewhat different from our expectations ... Well, you know, a strong and independent ruble and a stable economy, independent of what the price of oil is, the price of the same gasoline, even though sometimes depending on the price of oil, that is, declining, is it’s not the main thing.

The main thing is that the pederasts do not capture Russia, do not enter into an alliance with the Dark Lord and do not rape and plunder the country. It is clear that the Dark Lord will rob, and to rape these ...

That’s the main thing, that’s why it’s worth going to vote. And inflation, rising prices, falling incomes are such trifles compared to the fact that there will be no one to rule the country in 4 years.

So July 1 is a very important day in the life of the country.
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  1. Snail N9
    Snail N9 14 June 2020 05: 14 New
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    We understand perfectly well that the majority of those who will go like "express their opinion" have not read the amendments and are not going to read them, let alone delve into their essence, their opinions will be based on comments in the media and from the "zomboyaschik". Itself to read, to delve into, it is necessary to strain the brains, to understand what this or that will lead to. What is worth, for example, one clause of the amendments that some subjects of the federation can chop off other territories in their interests and establish their own laws on them - what, like TORs, are already few, do you want private latifundia? The amendment about "eternal" senators is also of no interest to anyone - just think, eternal senators, which is unprecedented. As well as delving into the essence of the amendments about the territories, which, as it were, should not be given to the enemy, except ... as in the demarcation of the border and the settlement of territorial disputes (hello Kurilam). But about the family, God, the "Russian people", traditions, victory in the Great Patriotic War, the minimum wage (about which it is not said that it should be indexed by the amount of inflation - keep it at whatever level you want so that you do not die right away), guarantees of pensions with incomprehensible years (quietly removed the previous terms from 60 years for men and 55 for women) and other meaningless in reality, but "loud-sounding" -SMI screams without stopping. Oh, yes, even about the priority of domestic law over international, that is, human rights are now, as it were, "to the light of the day," and nowhere to complain about the master. And by the way, where is the promised amendment to change the status of the Central Bank? Where did the proposed amendment banning foreign accounts and real estate for government officials and deputies go?
    In addition to the notorious zeroing and "maneuver" with eternal senatorship, the most important "amendment" to the Constitution for the government is the "priority" of domestic law over international law. ”The population deceived by the Russian media that international law allegedly persecutes only gay and lesbian , tolerance, juvenile, etc., and he must not be allowed into "happy Russia", does not understand what, in fact, "international law" implies: freedom of thought and expression, personal inviolability before a court decision, presumption of innocence, immunity housing and property, equality of all before the law, freedom of protests and complaints, etc. But the most important thing: the Russian government, removing the point of supremacy of international law over domestic law, thereby unties its hands in building a "digital concentration camp" on the territory of Russia - by adopting this amendment, citizens of Russia to be deprived of any opportunity to challenge the decisions of the authorities in an international court, which is based on the conditional priority of universal human values ​​"and monitors the non-violation of human rights. That is, the Russian authorities now can pass any, even the most inhuman laws, without looking back at international opinion and the opinion of their people, who were deprived of the last opportunity to defend their rights in an international court. Welcome to the emerging Russian "digital concentration camp"!
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 June 2020 05: 32 New
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      "... This is a line from the poem of the same name by Evgeny Yevtushenko:
      Nightingales sing near Kursk,

      In Moscow, backsides, as before, are licking ...

      I love my homeland,

      But I hate the state!

      Everywhere thieves, wherever you spit,

      And each of them flies "to the kingdom" ...

      I love my homeland

      But I hate the state!
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 06: 01 New
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        Cool batch went ... comments in verse.
        1. Deck
          Deck 14 June 2020 06: 23 New
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          Since campaigning is prohibited, but information is allowed:

          1. Ragnar Lodbrok
            Ragnar Lodbrok 14 June 2020 06: 28 New
            +4
            It was all immediately clear who was not at the trough and who did not have pink glasses.
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 14 June 2020 06: 54 New
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              The essential question. What will these amendments give and to whom?

              Nothing for the people. But the one who started these amendments, "caring for the people", will become the main beneficiary. There will be an excuse to reset to zero.
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              2. Lexus
                Lexus 14 June 2020 13: 55 New
                +8
                Not on the way.

                ***

                Talk to people: "Vote!
                Accept all amendments! "
                What are you hoping for? Well, justify -
                With crooks, bribes are known to be smooth.

                Let you say "yes", and, if you want, "no",
                Plebs is important for extras,
                You will go barefoot to the next world -
                Such installations.

                The last time they need you
                In a golden gallery too crowded.
                Then roll straight to hell
                There is no place for the outcast in paradise.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 14: 18 New
                  -56
                  Quote: lexus
                  Out of the way

                  You finally updated the training manual, my sympathy ...

                  But this will not help, if you love - go on, do not go on, but it will be - as it will ...

                  Man, your sponsors are smart people. They do not spend money on losers. You lost this call, in the next - they will bet on anyone, but not on you ...

                  My condolences crying
                  1. Lexus
                    Lexus 14 June 2020 14: 51 New
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                    do not howl

                    Howl is your part.
                    Sooner rejoice. And in vain.

                    Whatever the dupe does,
                    He does everything wrong.
                    And at the wrong time he’s glad
                    And sad out of place.
                    On the way meets a wedding
                    Here I would sing and dance,
                    He pours tears in the river
                    And he sings for the repose.
                    How they grabbed a guy
                    They began to crush his sides,
                    Beat, beat, beat,
                    They let go a little alive.
                    “You are,” the guy thinks,
                    Apparently I got into a mess. (C) "Not so", poem, S.Ya. Marshak
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 14: 56 New
                      -39
                      Bad, bad ... weak, cheap ... the sponsor will not appreciate laughing
                  2. Alena Frolovna
                    Alena Frolovna 14 June 2020 15: 02 New
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                    Amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation

                    The United West has become impotent.
                    A groan swept across Europe:
                    The legal government of Russia
                    Amended the Basic Law.

                    And if I'm wrong - correct me!
                    But the voice of the fathers tells me:
                    We proved again - Strength in Truth!
                    And the Truth is again on our side!




                    To be president as a messiah -
                    Like "Our Father", mind you gentlemen -
                    Only a citizen of Russia is worthy!
                    With one citizenship! Once and forever!

                    Konstantin Frolov-Crimean
          2. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 14 June 2020 07: 38 New
            +3
            Anyway ...
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 14 June 2020 15: 10 New
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              Colleague, do you remember how the government ran after the population with requests to receive its share of the national property and the income due from it? Me neither. Instead, "gazprom", "sutosneft", "sperbank", "non-rusal" and others in the hands of a "handful", an unattainable pension, destroyed medicine and education, poverty, bribery, taxes and extortions.
              Your opinion on this subject was interesting to someone? Of course not.

              This is all that is important to understand about the true goals and objectives of the forthcoming "voiceless". yes
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 14 June 2020 15: 15 New
                +9
                Therefore, I won’t go anywhere! I do not want to take part in the farce!
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 14 June 2020 15: 42 New
                  +4
                  What's the point? Trying to recoup is ridiculous. request
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                2. axay032
                  axay032 14 June 2020 21: 50 New
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                  Vouchers it was a huge scam, I still hold shares of the Perm Aviation Engine Plant, which according to the documents died almost immediately after privatization, another plant was born instead, I, like many other small share holders, was thrown by the old tradition of capitalism, because they knew that everything would pass without consequences, such a parsley,
                  So maybe a bottle of vodka was the price of this piece of paper.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 22: 23 New
                    -24
                    Quote: axay032
                    maybe a bottle of vodka was the price of this piece of paper

                    For two dozen vouchers in the suburbs - my ex bought a little Gazprom (I did not do this, not before).

                    Ask how much this costs ... yes, even now, in the fall. It will definitely surprise you laughing
                    1. vostok68
                      vostok68 15 June 2020 05: 14 New
                      +6
                      So you live memories of vouchers and your ex? Maybe it's time to grow up?
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 15 June 2020 18: 28 New
                        0
                        on shares of electric networks received for 6 vouchers, my relative still receives dividends every year. A little, 26 a year - but regularly and already 000 years soon
          3. Private89
            Private89 14 June 2020 07: 50 New
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            What is it they want to stir up that popular approval is needed? It’s scary to imagine even.


            It seems to me that everything is simple, a new global depression is ahead, what awaits us ordinary people? The impoverishment and decline in living standards, poverty, lack of prospects. Well, in general, now that only ten times, as a result, people brought to the edge can take advantage of Lenin’s precepts and send the masters of life to explore the vastness of Siberia, well, this is in the most favorable case for gentlemen . It is clear that they are in a hurry to crawl into the Duma, some as presidents, senators, governors, naively believing that a piece of immunity, a bunch of laws or an advantageous position will protect them. I’m looking at these pygmies, during the coronovirus, they showed how the state is spreading and losing control, what is the vaunted vertical power, what awaits them when the global depression comes, which is not for a year or two, but the past was from 29 to 39 , a whole ten years and the planet came out of it is known as. And you know, looking at everything that they have done over the past 30 years with the country, I don’t feel sorry for them.
            1. Putnik119
              Putnik119 14 June 2020 08: 04 New
              16
              Ahead, Dear, war. Just a war. We need the mobilization of the country.
              1. Deck
                Deck 14 June 2020 08: 22 New
                -2
                Ahead, Dear, war. Just a war. We need the mobilization of the country.


                The question is who is the enemy? With whom will the people fight?
                1. Gennady Bogdanovich
                  Gennady Bogdanovich 14 June 2020 10: 42 New
                  16
                  Gentlemen, the attack on machine guns for the Motherland, for Friedman, for Abramovich, for Potanin., For Chubais, for Gref for Putin Ur !!!
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 14 June 2020 11: 22 New
                    -7
                    Quote: Gennady Bogdanovich
                    for Friedman, for Abramovich, for Potanin., for Chubais, for Gref for Putin Ur

                    I read about it
                    https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2013-07/1374053480_listovka_09.jpg
                    1. DVR
                      DVR 14 June 2020 14: 11 New
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                      The image was not attached.
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 14 June 2020 17: 04 New
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                        Thank you, I didn’t notice.
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                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 15: 03 New
                    -31
                    Quote: serpent
                    Rosguard will protect us! Though...
                    "The Russian Guard raped a colleague with a bottle of vodka"

                    It’s hard for you to live ... really terrible ... although, of course, if you want to live, know how to spin yes

                    If an adult snake,
                    To take, and, carefully holding -
                    Cram needles into it -
                    You will get a ruff.

                    You have yet to do this. Get ready. Before - study the full version of exercises with a snake, it is available on the Internet. You will be amused, me guarantee laughing
                    1. snake
                      snake 14 June 2020 15: 42 New
                      0
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Amuse you

                      This is no time for fun, Monsieur Troll, when the fate of the Fatherland is decided.
                      A troll crept into the palace
                      And the king commanded:
                      "Catch the Troll Villain" -
                      And for the guard gave a password.
                      But heard a tricky troll
                      About the decree and about the password
                      And instantly turned
                      Into an evil little mole.
                      The king decided to celebrate,
                      That the troll disappeared somewhere.
                      I wanted to get dressed for the holiday ...
                      And the moth ate the clothes!
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 15: 46 New
                        -32
                        Quote: serpent
                        No time for fun, Monsieur Troll, when the fate of the Fatherland is decided

                        The fact that local trolls are trying to declare me a troll is no longer news. You to sylvester, svarog, stasik ... well, and to other gop company.

                        The fate of the fatherland - has been decided for twenty years now, and so far - it has been decided quite successfully, IMHO.

                        That you do not see this is forgivable to you. Uzhiki, they say, are blind in life ... laughing
                      2. snake
                        snake 14 June 2020 16: 23 New
                        17
                        Something you are today as if from the chain - you bark with many. And in a frankly boorish tone. Aggravation on the eve of the next arrival in the "native land"?
                      3. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 17: 04 New
                        -25
                        Quote: serpent
                        Something you today broke loose - barking with many

                        It is not interesting. So what about

                        Quote: serpent
                        when the fate of the Fatherland is decided

                        ? This is a question, if that wink
                      4. snake
                        snake 14 June 2020 17: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        ? This is a question, if that

                        What's not clear? The constitution is changing, ergo - the fate of the Fatherland is being decided.
                      5. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 17: 15 New
                        -24
                        Quote: serpent
                        The constitution is changing, ergo - the fate of the Fatherland is being decided

                        Wow! Bayus-bayus-bayus belay

                        Sarrozh, the Constitution is just a frame for a picture. The picture is drawn (quietly, slowly) in my memory for 20 years.

                        The problem is that you do not like this picture, let's be honest. And the adoption of the horse of Istucius is just another reason to recall its existence ... isn’t it? wink

                        PS: you are now a Spaniard, what a la? You have a question mark opposite belay
                      6. snake
                        snake 14 June 2020 17: 32 New
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                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        The problem is that you do not like this picture, let's be honest.

                        How can you like her? The picture is plain. There are no “bright victories” that the GDP promised two years ago. If only the "victory" over the pensioners ... they drew for 20 years, as you say, but then suddenly it turned out that the easel was of the wrong system, and the paint had to be taken in a different shade ...
                        Here is such a picture drawn over 20 years:
                      7. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 17: 45 New
                        -29
                        Quote: serpent
                        Here is such a picture drawn in 20 years

                        Yes, yes, yes ... well, you can’t surpass Sylvester here - this is the true master of demotivators yes

                        Quote: serpent
                        There are no "bright victories" that the GDP promised two years ago

                        Quote: A & BStrugatsky, Waves extinguish the wind
                        Sees mountains and forests, Clouds and skies. But sees nothing, What's under his nose

                        Think terribly, think ... even though it’s difficult with no habit
                      8. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 14 June 2020 21: 32 New
                        -9
                        Quote: serpent
                        Here is such a picture drawn in 20 years

                        This is what the real barge haulers looked like

                        And, by the way, by the time Repin had painted his daub, the burlatsky work had almost disappeared.
                      9. ruivit1988
                        ruivit1988 16 June 2020 06: 55 New
                        +5
                        Painfully clean barge hikers in the photo. I’m in the forest when I was working as a teenager, I remember very well that you squeeze your things out in the heat, and at the end of the working day you’ll see a gray face from dust and dirt with tar. And here in the heat all day and no one's bast shoes are not killed, like clothes.
                      10. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 16 June 2020 19: 05 New
                        +1
                        Quote: ruivit1988
                        here in the heat all day

                        And why do you think the photo was taken at the end of the day?
                        The work was really hard, this is a fact, and it would hardly have been the hoolers before photographing when they worked all day, because then it was not a quick process to take a photo - until they prepare the camera, until then, until now, not just now - just done. Most likely they are just starting work.
                        But it’s not even about this, but that the haulers are strong, healthy men, and not the scumbags that he painted, I do not argue that he is a talented, but not very smart artist.
                3. snake
                  snake 14 June 2020 19: 36 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  you now have a Spaniard, what a la? You have a question mark opposite

                  This was a kind of reflection of your punctuation:
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  ? This is a question, if that
                4. Roman123567
                  Roman123567 15 June 2020 13: 08 New
                  +4
                  The constitution is just a frame for a picture.
                  Actually - this is the author of the picture ..

                  you do not like this picture, let's be honest
                  I don’t like it .. So it’s logical that they want to drive this artist into the neck
                5. Kazbek
                  Kazbek 15 June 2020 22: 36 New
                  +3
                  Under such articles, and they began to appear on VO with enviable regularity, there is always going to be an infantile, always aching shushara, generously spiced with trolls from the adjacent 404th, which are easy to distinguish by a peculiar vocabulary and an unhealthy desire to distort words.
                  Fighting them like windmills is a noble occupation, but completely meaningless!
                  Yes, and I noticed such a paradox: despite the collected "minuses", the rating is growing at an enviable speed, which inspires hope!
                  Good luck, colleague! laughing good
                6. lazy
                  lazy 16 June 2020 05: 53 New
                  -1
                  also noticed more articles and comments glorifying the mask are collecting pluses, the complete feeling that a raguli and a liberd crept into the VO, an information war in action
        2. Civil
          Civil 14 June 2020 17: 14 New
          +4
          Quote: serpent
          Something you are today as if from the chain - you bark with many. And in a frankly boorish tone. Aggravation on the eve of the next arrival in the "native land"?

          Because it understands the outcome is inevitable)
        3. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 17: 22 New
          -23
          Quote: Civil
          Quote: serpent
          Something you are today as if from the chain - you bark with many. And in a frankly boorish tone. Aggravation on the eve of the next arrival in the "native land"?

          Because it understands the outcome is inevitable)

          More from now on, please ... non-military wink
  • Private89
    Private89 14 June 2020 14: 02 New
    12
    The question is who is the enemy? With whom will the people fight?


  • New Year day
    New Year day 14 June 2020 10: 43 New
    25
    Quote: Putnik119
    Ahead, Dear, war. Just a war.

    with whom?
    Quote: Putnik119
    We need the mobilization of the country.

    for what? Who gathered to mobilize and around whom? - Putin, Abramovich, Sechin, etc.?
    1. your1970
      your1970 15 June 2020 18: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: Silvestr
      Quote: Putnik119
      We need the mobilization of the country.

      for what? Who gathered to mobilize and around whom? - Putin, Abramovich, Sechin, etc.?
      - I modestly remind you - that last time (at 1918 !!!) exactly around the then oligarchs and politicians White movement and formed .....
      You exclude 100% White movement now ??? !!!
      Oh well.....
  • snake
    snake 14 June 2020 11: 27 New
    +6
    Quote: Putnik119
    Ahead, Dear, war. Simple war.

    Everything is so simple with leavened patriots ... Who, with whom, for what, why? Yes FIG knows. Just war and war. The propagandists said something like that on a zomboyaschik, but the "real patriot" doesn't need anything more.
    1. Kazbek
      Kazbek 15 June 2020 22: 38 New
      -3
      Judging by your knowledge, you can’t get out of a zombie hunter! laughing
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 14 June 2020 15: 16 New
    +5
    God forbid you to see the Russian riot ...
    So meaningless and merciless ....
  • Pike
    Pike 14 June 2020 07: 52 New
    12
    Voting is useless (and too late).
    The amendments are de facto accepted! This is directly indicated by Pamfilova.
    Crown phrase: "The opinion of the people, not provided for by the current Constitution (chuckle)."
    1. kig
      kig 14 June 2020 09: 57 New
      -10
      Quote: Pike
      The amendments are de facto accepted!


      And really:

      Chapter 9. Constitutional amendments and revisions of the Constitution

      Article 134

      Proposals for amendments and revision of the provisions of the Constitution of the Russian Federation may be made by the President of the Russian Federation, the Council of the Federation, the State Duma, the Government of the Russian Federation, legislative (representative) bodies of the subjects of the Russian Federation, and a group of at least one-fifth of the members of the Council of the Federation or deputies of the State Duma.

      Article 135

      1. The provisions of the chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation cannot be revised by the Federal Assembly.
      2. If the proposal to revise the provisions of chapters 1, 2 and 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation will be supported by three-fifths of the total number of members of the Federation Council and State Duma deputies, the Constitutional Assembly is convened in accordance with federal constitutional law.
      3. The Constitutional Assembly either confirms the immutability of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, or develops a draft new Constitution of the Russian Federation, which is adopted by the Constitutional Assembly by two-thirds of the votes of the total number of its members or is put to the popular vote. When conducting a popular vote, the Constitution of the Russian Federation is considered adopted if more than half of the voters who participated in the vote voted for it, provided that more than half of the voters participated in it.

      Article 136

      Amendments to chapters 3 to 8 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation are adopted in the manner prescribed for the adoption of the federal constitutional law, and come into force after their approval by the legislative authorities of at least two-thirds of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
      Decision of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on the interpretation of Article 136

      Article 137

      1. Amendments to Article 65 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, determining the composition of the Russian Federation, are made on the basis of the federal constitutional law on the admission to the Russian Federation and the formation of a new constituent entity of the Russian Federation, on the change in the constitutional and legal status of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation.
      2. In the event of a change in the name of a republic, territory, region, city of federal significance, autonomous region, autonomous region, the new name of the subject of the Russian Federation shall be included in article 65 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
      Decision of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on the interpretation of part 2 of article 137


      All amendments relate to Articles 67 to 133, that is, to those chapters referred to in Article 136.
    2. YOUR
      YOUR 14 June 2020 10: 18 New
      -12
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE0BQ9s790U
      Like this
  • Stas157
    Stas157 14 June 2020 08: 32 New
    23
    And here the brain resolutely says “Stand! Think!" How is it that everything is against the liberals, for Putin, and he is a liberal ...

    The cognitive dissonance.

    Those who are in a hurry to call everyone (blame) liberals and liberals, never do this in relation to the Chief Liberal (Putin). Moreover. They idolize this liberal!
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 14 June 2020 10: 46 New
      29
      Quote: Stas157
      Those who are in a hurry to call everyone (blame) liberals and liberals, never do this in relation to the Chief Liberal (Putin). Moreover. They idolize this liberal!

      they have brain cancer! The puzzle does not add up! Go to the holy?
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  • DVR
    DVR 14 June 2020 14: 06 New
    -34
    We must not allow the disruption of the vote to amend the current version of the Constitution, which was written after the greatest defeat of Russia, in which it suffered damage comparable in scale to the damage to the USSR in the Second World War. These are millions of lost lives and trillions of rubles (dollars) of the country's national wealth. This edition was written at the direction and with the participation of the winners, curators of the drunken tyrant, who then ruled the state. The Constitution in that form is a symbol of the final defeat of the USSR, which did not even occur in '91, in 1993, when, under guarantees of support from the enemy, hundreds of people in the capital of our Motherland were unceremoniously killed and forgotten. This is an act of surrender of the Soviet Union and Russia.
    Do not listen to all these pseudo-patriots and pseudo-communists who are now voicing in abundance everywhere, incl. and on this site. Their avatars often have patriotic pictures, Soviet symbols (not only among them, I don’t generalize), they pretend to be such zealous admirers of the great past. They are always experts in all areas. But it's worth asking a valid question or presenting an argument - not a single meaningful answer or counter-argument. They are not in order to answer, this time is necessary, their task is to "pour into the ears" as much as possible. In each article on any topic, they have the only goal - to constantly reduce the discussion, whatever the discussion, to the fact that everything is bad in Russia, and the current government and the President personally are to blame for all the troubles. Their main goal is to induce people to take active steps to violently overthrow the government. Only what will follow next, who will take advantage of the resulting chaos, they will not explain to you. There is no need to go far for examples, we all see what is happening in our neighbors, what happened in many places before that. We ourselves experienced it, when it seemed to everyone that just about, tomorrow without any effort, life would become a fairy tale. Only the fairy tale turned out to be too scary, a horror film.
    They will never answer you in essence. Why in the late 80s they or others like them very actively began to tell us that everything in the "scoop" is bad, everything is not like people, the rotting west in chocolate, and there are hundreds of varieties of sausages in stores. And in the United States, in general, heaven is heaven on earth, and we have the whole history of the USSR - blood, terror, the Gulag, and animals rule us, as if nothing good (for which so much blood was given) was not. They instilled in us shame for their country. Many then believed, the result is known. The USA became the best friend and helped us in the construction of capitalism with a certain specificity, laws were written and participated in writing the main one too.
    Why they were silent in the hell of the 90s, they didn’t give a voice, apparently, they enjoyed what was built from their supply. Rejoiced at a new carefree life. Yes, because their master was happy with everything. And this is when the war in the country, everything collapsed, salaries were not given to millions of months, people hung themselves and fired at the fact that they could not feed their families, and most simply drank themselves.
    And suddenly, by the 2010s, when Russia began to acquire subjectivity again, to play an active geopolitical game in the most significant regions of the world, when work is not unsuccessfully carried out to restore strategic industries, major enterprises are being built, when the army and navy are being strengthened and modernized, to which the whole world is witness , when you can't get out of traffic jams on the roads (and the cars are not bad), when household appliances are bought up in a crisis, and not matches and cereals, they started shouting again. Life for them has become so unbearable that in the same way they now tell us that in the USSR it was heavenly heaven on earth, justice and prosperity. And a hundred varieties of sausages in the store no longer entice them. Everyone is in poverty, the poor, and they say that we have totalitarianism, a dictatorship, "Putin's regime" and repression. They say everywhere and write and do not hide that you really believe that a bloody regime has come ... And there are so many billionaires that you cannot count. True, the United States, where they called us before, is still very far away, there is something to strive for, but they are already calling us back. But in terms of income inequality, we are almost equal. They call back and they don't invent anything new, why? All formulas have already been written, simple and ingenious. Well, who did not admire the winged: "Take everything, and divide it."
    I'm already confused, which of these "patriots" is more correct, former or current?
    They still have a couple of cheap tricks on the assumption that a person does not go into details. For example, why vote if everyone thinks right. A person who has never gone into the work of the electoral system, suffrage, and even more so, who did not participate in this, will easily believe. But this is an unfounded statement. And they absolutely do not want to explain to anyone that it is almost impossible to falsify elections if representatives of all supposedly "deceived parties" who are included in all election commissions at all levels and in all polling stations of Russia do not participate in the falsifications. Representatives of all political forces participate in the vote count.
    Anti-Russian forces, deliberately acting on the destruction of Russia, are trying to break the vote on changing the Constitution, and they are being helped by people who, unfortunately my sincere, do not see beyond their nose and do not want to see anything. They do not need the development of the country, they need chaos and defeat.
    I urge everyone to vote. And thanks to our leader, enjoying and at the moment the support of the absolute majority of the population of Russiathat initiated the abolition of the act of surrender, and we have the opportunity to take part in this historical event, in writing new pages in the history of our country.
    And then he could usurp ... so that little seems!
    I urge everyone to vote for adoption!
    1. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 14 June 2020 14: 28 New
      20
      Quote: DVR
      And thanks to our leader, who at the moment enjoys the support of the absolute majority of the population of Russia, that initiated the abolition of the act of surrender, and we have the opportunity to take part in this historic event, in writing new pages in the history of our country.

      1) Source (rusconstitution.ru): The draft Constitution of the Russian Federation, known as the “Alekseev-Sobchak project” was created spring xnumx year by decision of the political council of the Russian Movement of Democratic Reforms (RDR).
      Project prepared famous lawyers: Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, former Chairman of the Committee on Constitutional Oversight of the USSR Sergey Alekseev (1924-2013) and the mayor of St. Petersburg, former People's Deputy of the USSR Doctor of Law Anatoly Alexandrovich Sobchak
      2) Source (Wikipedia) The work of Vladimir Putin in the authorities of Leningrad and St. Petersburg:
      1990-1991 - Advisor to the Chairman of the Leningrad City Council A. A. Sobchak.
      1991-1992 - Chairman of the Committee on External Relations of the Mayor's Office of Leningrad (St. Petersburg).
      1992-1994 - Deputy Mayor of St. Petersburg, Chairman of the Committee on External Relations of the City Hall of St. Petersburg.
      3) It is interesting, and the lawyer by training is V.V. Putin, as the closest associate and assistant to A. Sobchak helped your boss write as you put it
      act of surrender
      ? Or, as usual, with nothing and just passed by? lol
      1. DVR
        DVR 14 June 2020 14: 37 New
        -23
        Do you want the presence of Western curators (and personnel agents of special services), who then had a decisive influence on our elites and on the course of political processes in the country, be reflected in official sources?
        Well, you are an intelligent person, you understand everything perfectly)
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 14 June 2020 14: 55 New
          10
          Quote: DVR
          Do you want the presence of Western curators (and personnel agents of special services), who then had a decisive influence on our elites and on the course of political processes in the country, be reflected in official sources?
          Well, you are an intelligent person, you understand everything perfectly)

          I have no doubt about the presence of Western curators or the influence of the West on the decisions of Sobchak and Yeltsin (it is not for nothing that the EBN, after signing the Bialowieza agreements, rushed to first call Clinton). As well as I have no doubt that a person who was on special trust from the above gentlemen, namely Sobchak and Yeltsin, cannot be not involved in the actions of his chefs and not be smeared with connections with the alleged curators of his chefs. Otherwise, this person would not be allowed to reach political heights under his bosses (Sobchak and EBN). I’m talking about GDP now. In turn, you, as an intelligent person, should understand that the deputy, the closest assistant, a confidant, an heir, etc. etc. in one person, namely the GDP, it simply cannot be any antagonist of its two outstanding ones in the collapse of the country. But the successor of their business and the heir, in the political and economic spheres, is very likely. So what good, you expect from the closest assistant Sobchak and EBN. hi
          1. DVR
            DVR 14 June 2020 14: 58 New
            -7
            If he is a follower, then comment on the rest of my comment. That which does not fit with the "continuation".
            1. Leshy1975
              Leshy1975 14 June 2020 15: 37 New
              10
              Quote: DVR
              If he is a follower, then comment on the rest of my comment. That which does not fit with the "continuation".

              Commenting: Partners want more, and the successors themselves are beginning to miss, the birth of the boyars then multiply and multiply.
              Unlike the common people, which are slowly becoming extinct and dying.
              1. DVR
                DVR 14 June 2020 17: 44 New
                -9
                Partners want more, and the successors themselves are beginning to miss, the birth of the boyars then multiply and multiply.

                I wrote about this yesterday on another thread, "Russia is changing its approach to nuclear deterrence." You can read my answer there. There I answered "illi (Alexey)", then to others.
          2. Motorist
            Motorist 14 June 2020 16: 18 New
            +4
            Quote: Leshy1975
            not without reason EBN, after signing the Bialowieza agreements, rushed to first call Clinton

            Bush was then.
            1. Leshy1975
              Leshy1975 14 June 2020 19: 48 New
              +3
              Quote: Motorist
              Quote: Leshy1975
              not without reason EBN, after signing the Bialowieza agreements, rushed to first call Clinton

              Bush was then.

              Yes you are right. I called Bush, I was wrong with Clinton. hi
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 14 June 2020 15: 36 New
        +6
        And the first chapter was written in the USA by USAID. This is indicated on their official website. All other chapters and articles of the constitution cannot contradict it. The rest is completed by our traitors, but their word is already in the background.
        1. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 14 June 2020 15: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Herman 4223
          And the first chapter was written in the USA by USAID. This is indicated on their official website. All other chapters and articles of the constitution cannot contradict it. The rest is completed by our traitors, but their word is already in the background.

          Probably. hi
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 14 June 2020 16: 02 New
            +2
            Yes, this is a fact that is not hidden. At least for now, there are also a couple of codes they have indicated, except for the constitution.
    2. snake
      snake 14 June 2020 14: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: DVR
      Do not listen to all these pseudo-patriots and pseudo-communists who are now voting everywhere in abundance, including and on this site.

    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 14 June 2020 14: 53 New
      15
      Quote: DVR
      I urge everyone to vote for adoption!

      And how will this ("revised") constitution be better than the one that is in effect ?! Is that specific for me? Why do I need "eternal" Senator Matvienko? And if (as Skomorokhov quite rightly noted) the law on "multi-citizen" individuals has not worked for so many years, then how will it work in the new constitution? Please answer (I'm not a communist repeat ).
      1. DVR
        DVR 14 June 2020 16: 49 New
        -12
        I am not a communist

        I have nothing against the Communists, but in the present I have always sympathized, my dad is also a party (I didn’t even throw the ticket away and didn’t join the EDRO).
        (as Skomorokhov quite rightly noted) the law on "multi-civil" individuals has not worked for so many years, then how will it work in the new constitution

        The rules regarding candidates for the presidency are being tightened significantly in terms of citizenship, deposits and accounts abroad (19-FZ).
        The rules regarding candidates for the State Duma are tightened in terms of citizenship, deposits and accounts abroad (20-FZ). With regard to candidates for the Federation Council, the same thing (229-FZ). Why Skomorokhov mentioned only 67-FZ, a question for him. It is also the basis (only the beginning) for building a more balanced political system.
        Why do I need "eternal" Senator Matvienko?

        I don’t think it is critical if some senators will have “life-long” status there.
        The issue of compliance with laws is on a slightly different plane. The meaning of this amendment is precisely to tighten the requirements for candidates for positions in the highest authorities, which reflects the general direction of the amendment law on strengthening sovereignty.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 14 June 2020 18: 25 New
          +6
          Quote: DVR
          The rules regarding candidates for the presidency are being tightened significantly in terms of citizenship, deposits and accounts abroad (19-FZ).
          The rules regarding candidates for the State Duma are tightened in terms of citizenship, deposits and accounts abroad (20-FZ). With regard to candidates for the Federation Council, the same thing (229-FZ). Why Skomorokhov mentioned only 67-FZ, a question for him. It is also the basis (only the beginning) for building a more balanced political system.

          In my opinion, the grief and misfortune is not in Skomorokhov and the laws (although I do not like all of them), grief and misfortune is that even the adopted laws are not executed, or are only executed in the "right" direction. What's the use of a constitution that isn't enforced? About human trust ... VVP made a promise not to raise the retirement age (was that?) And how did it fulfill its promises?
          Quote: DVR
          I don’t think it is critical if some senators will have “life-long” status there.

          For me personally, it is very critical that people like Matvienko can get "life-long status".
          Quote: DVR
          The issue of compliance with laws is on a slightly different plane.

          For me, only one plane is interesting, this is the execution of the law, no other “plane” interests me. I don't see anything good for myself in the new version of the constitution. But I see only for people like Matvienko. Do I need it?
          1. DVR
            DVR 14 June 2020 19: 12 New
            -5
            What is the use of a constitution that is not enforced?

            I have already said what I see the point of these amendments. Failure to comply with the requirements of laws, incl. and has nothing to do with the amendments. No need to mix these things. Laws are violated throughout the world. Somewhere less, somewhere more, depending on the historical stage, the country's position on the world stage, mentality and other things. I consider the amendments that are proposed to be necessary. I do not agree with the pension reform. But this, too, is not relevant to this particular issue.
            For me personally, it is very critical that people like Matvienko can get "life-long status".

            For me, as I wrote above, it is not critical. How many there, 7 people like. Yes, and let them sit, a certain presidential pool in the Federation Council. All the same, everyone says that the Federation Council is completely under the control of the President. Moreover, the President gives part of his powers to the Federal Assembly.
            For me, only one plane is interesting, this is the execution of the law, no other "plane" interests me.

            Then why discuss it all in a topic that is not directly related to this plane? Here everyone is talking about the amendments.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 14 June 2020 20: 51 New
              +6
              Quote: DVR
              All the same, everyone says that the Federation Council is completely under the control of the President.

              That is, when Matvienko lobbied for the law on family and domestic violence with Pushkina's comrades, leading to a clear "non-prosperity" of the Russian peoples and called everyone who was against this law trolls, and Narusova helped her Sobchak daughter in the "crab business", they all do you think they are acting with the approval of the GDP? Well, this is judging by your comment. request And it is normal for you that such individuals will "lead for life" the country ?! No, I don't like things like that. We are different with people like you. And our values ​​are different. wink
              1. DVR
                DVR 14 June 2020 21: 30 New
                -7
                That is, when Matvienko lobbied for the law on family and domestic violence with Pushkina's comrades, leading to a clear "non-prosperity" of the Russian peoples and called everyone who was against this law trolls, and Narusova helped her Sobchak daughter in the "crab business", they all do you think they are acting with the approval of the GDP? Well, this is judging by your comment.

                You misunderstood me at all. The phrase in my answer: "Anyway, everyone says that the Federation Council is completely controlled by the President." refers to my opponents mainly. I even wanted to write it stronger first. I do not think so.
              2. Tank hard
                Tank hard 14 June 2020 21: 33 New
                +2
                Quote: DVR
                I do not think so.

                The trouble and sorrow is that they do not care what we think Unfortunately... request For it will concern them all in due time. hi
        2. DVR
          DVR 14 June 2020 21: 23 New
          -3
          Sorry, Daniel von Messer, misled you with his answer (unintentionally).
          the rules for candidates for the presidency are being tightened substantially in terms of citizenship, deposits and accounts abroad (19-FZ).
          The rules regarding candidates for the State Duma are tightened in terms of citizenship, deposits and accounts abroad (20-FZ). With regard to candidates for the Federation Council, the same thing (229-FZ).

          This statement is true only for the President. I decided to check the legislation (79-ФЗ, 3-ФЗ). I do not like to mislead people. Restrictions for senators and deputies migrated to the law on amendments from these Federal Laws.
          In any case, I do not see anything seditious in fixing these provisions in the Constitution. We are still talking about the main governing bodies of the state.
          And the main point, I think, is still not in this particular amendment.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 14 June 2020 21: 28 New
            +2
            Quote: DVR
            In any case, I do not see anything seditious in fixing these provisions in the Constitution

            Yes, I’m not talking about it, I’m about fixing it - don’t fix it, the laws do not work. And they work for people like Narusova and Matvienko. Do I need this ?! Tired of repeating ... repeat
            1. DVR
              DVR 14 June 2020 21: 44 New
              -7
              Yes, I’m not talking about it, I’m about fixing it - don’t fix it, the laws do not work.

              And I told you that this is a matter not related to amendments. You are like those guys about whom I spoke in the very first comment: "In every article on any topic, they have the only goal - to constantly reduce the discussion, whatever the discussion is, to the fact that absolutely everything is bad in Russia, and in all troubles are to blame for the current government and the President personally. " I am not saying that you are, I don’t want to think badly of you. And that the laws are not respected, so I wrote in the same place that we have built "criminal capitalism" in the worst form. Without the initial accumulation of capital, which in itself is absurd. It could have been done differently, but our friends wouldn't let us. This is a very stable system, built in the 90s, and we will be cleaning it up for many years to come. Unless a miracle happens at the top. Nevertheless, work in this direction is being carried out, albeit not so quickly. They could have covered up, for example, the case with Zakharchenko. They began to take high-ranking regional leaders for the same more often. But this is all a separate big conversation, not related to the topic under discussion.
            2. Tank hard
              Tank hard 14 June 2020 22: 02 New
              +4
              Quote: DVR
              You are like those guys that I spoke about in the very first comment: "In each article on any topic, they have the only goal - to constantly reduce the discussion, whatever the discussion is, to the fact that absolutely everything is bad in Russia, and the current government and the President personally are to blame for all the troubles. "

              Before you write such a game about me, take the trouble to study my comments on the site. And according to the subject, the retinue makes the king. And to say that the boyars are bad, and the king is good, he, they say, does not know that the boyars are bad, this is a bad man. repeat
            3. DVR
              DVR 14 June 2020 22: 46 New
              -1
              Before you write such a game about me, take the trouble to study my comments on the site.

              I said that "I do not claim that you are, I do not want to think bad of you."
              And according to the subject, the retinue makes the king. And to say that the boyars are bad, and the king is good, he, they say, does not know that the boyars are bad, this is a bad man.

              At the expense of the subject, we can talk, but not within the framework of this discussion. Too voluminous topic. Yes, and I'm not here for days, like many. I have a job, business. In quarantine I decided to talk with the members of the forum, there was nothing to do.
            4. Tank hard
              Tank hard 14 June 2020 22: 51 New
              0
              Quote: DVR
              I said that "I do not claim that you are, I do not want to think bad of you."

              Yes, opinion is important to me some of my friends only not all are alive ... request
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 23: 02 New
            -9
            Quote: Tank Hard
            say that the boyars are bad, and the king is good, he, they say, does not know that the boyars are bad, this is bad

            Tank, welcome hi

            One has only to take into account that the "elita" is still extremely heterogeneous, and everything becomes much clearer ... we need details - in a personal, here it is a tough OFF request
          3. Tank hard
            Tank hard 14 June 2020 23: 05 New
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Tank, welcome

            Strongly welcome! hi
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            here it is hard off

            Yes, you’re right ... repeat
  • Private89
    Private89 14 June 2020 15: 49 New
    15
    And thanks to our leader, who at the moment is enjoying the support of the absolute majority of the population of Russia


    Well, if so why are you campaigning for a constitution, sleep peacefully.

    And the main thing is so far away, since starting up about the USSR, I began to play, according to our feelings, and most importantly to connect those who now rule us, they say they are the same as when the USSR was for the people, why don’t you remember who destroyed it, but absolutely for whom are you campaigning for us to go and vote at the end of your monologue, have they disappeared somewhere or has Putin already sent Chubais by stage to cut down the forest? I have not heard. There is no difference between EBN and Putin, at one they plundered under liberal slogans, now under patriotic, and the essence of the system is to make profit from the bowels of the earth, enterprises and people. You know, you can at least get agitated before losing your pulse, but the adoption or non-adoption of the constitution, Mr. "not comrade" the president will be nullified or not, doesn’t this cancel the contradictions between this government and the people and try to cover them up with beautiful words about rallying the oppressed with their oppressors is like trying to scoop out a spoon sea.

    Well, who did not admire the winged: "Take everything, and divide it."


    Upset you “Take and Share” is about the current system. Tell me, can Potanin be able to profit from Norilsk Nickel if tomorrow all the workers in this enterprise stop working? Himself stand up for the machine? So who makes the workers profit by their labor or Mr. Potanin, and is Potanin's labor not confined to the appropriation of the labor of the workers of the Norilsk Nickel, eh? So why do we need Potanin and people like him.
    1. DVR
      DVR 14 June 2020 18: 07 New
      -8
      And the main thing is so far away, since starting up about the USSR, I began to play, according to our feelings, and most importantly to connect those who now rule us, they say they are the same as when the USSR was for the people, why don’t you remember who destroyed it, but absolutely for whom are you campaigning for us to go and vote at the end of your monologue, have they disappeared somewhere, or has Putin already sent Chubais by stage to clear the forest?

      You did not carefully read my comment or through a line. Chubais enjoys the privileges given to him by those who gave them EBN when he shot the Supreme Council.
      There is no difference between EBN and Putin, at one they plundered under liberal slogans, now under patriotic, and the essence of the system is to make profit from the bowels of the earth, enterprises and people.

      You mean there is no difference between today and the 90s. I summarized it above. I read it exactly through a line or in fragments. This can be stated either by a clinical "stupid person", or by a blind person, or by a person performing a certain kind of task. The difference is enormous.
      this does not negate the contradictions between this power and the people and try to cover them up with beautiful words about the rallying of the oppressed with their oppressors is like trying to scoop the sea with a spoon

      These contradictions are fundamental features of capitalism. Yes, you're straight Captain .., America discovered. But haven't we been building it since the 90s. Only, as I said above, it was built at the suggestion of the United States "with a certain specificity" - criminal capitalism in its worst form.
      Upset you “Take and Share” is about the current system. Tell me, can Potanin be able to profit from Norilsk Nickel if tomorrow all the workers in this enterprise stop working? Himself stand up for the machine? So who makes the workers profit by their labor or Mr. Potanin, and is Potanin's labor not confined to the appropriation of the labor of the workers of the Norilsk Nickel, eh? So why do we need Potanin and people like him.

      Why are you telling me again about the common truths of the capitalist system?
      Where were you all in the 90s that now you have become such zealous fighters for the rights of workers? Well, tell me what you offer, specifically. Tell me your plan in detail.
      1. Private89
        Private89 14 June 2020 20: 12 New
        +8
        And it makes sense to me to set out plans to prove to you, bring at least the scientific works of Plato to you, if you believe that the signing of some pieces of paper will change the lives of millions of people, well, what can I say. To offer some kind of country development program? To whom? Neither you nor I, and indeed the whole people, influence laws and are completely detached from the levers of governing the country. All recipes for the development of the country have long been known, you can read Delyagin, Glazyev, Khazin by economics, the problem is different - this government does not pose such a task, in principle, as the development of the country. There is no point in breaking the regime here, you don’t worry, he copes with it very well, ordinary people can only unite in councils, so that later there will be someone to lift the country from ruins.
        1. DVR
          DVR 14 June 2020 20: 37 New
          -6
          You are on "you", then on "you".
          if you believe that signing some pieces of paper will change the lives of millions of people

          I don’t believe, I know that it is necessary to put in order the legislative base, which begins with the basic law.
          To offer some kind of country development program? To whom? Neither you nor I, and indeed the whole people, influence laws and are completely detached from the levers of governing the country.

          You are absolutely right. The only option to change is to climb the barricades. But you yourself understand and say that:
          There’s no point in breaking the regime, don’t worry,

          It makes no sense, and is fraught with the loss of everything. It is possible to destroy, but only no one will give to build. I can’t worry, I see many who want to destroy, I realize the scale of all this activity (including the network). There would be no external pressure, but please, I myself could have been in the forefront. And the fact that it is, and is very great - is a fact, although here they sometimes argue with this.
          simple people can only unite in councils, so that later there will be someone to lift the country from ruins.

          This is a good initiative, I support. Suddenly and truly ruins ...
  • stylet
    stylet 17 June 2020 12: 41 New
    0
    All right! Military Review needs to change its name simply to Review, there are no military here, I will never believe that these whiners are our Russian military. A bunch of NGO workers on a salary, and the worst thing is that there are Russian citizens who free and excitedly slop our Motherland, sincerely hating Russia and the Russian multinational people and wish us death, and they only dream that the American owner would allow the boot to kiss.
  • ventich62
    ventich62 17 June 2020 14: 12 New
    0
    So many words and no one appreciated)))
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 17 June 2020 07: 22 New
    0
    Yes, I don't think that mixing with amendments is only for zeroing, here, for example, the word free medical support is removed from the constitution and the same story with education becomes available (well, who has money), because under all the foam of the amendments, the essence of the state is not quite noticeable, such, in the person of the president, throws off responsibilities in relation to the population of the country and, as it were, imposes on the Duma (athletes, artists, clowns and other "talents") who are constantly re-elected, in general, temporary workers who are not responsible for anything, the state, represented by the president , now cannot legally influence them, in general, the next step towards a destructive mess, I think so. And the elections - ha, so some comrades from the government openly say that the elections do not solve anything and everything has already been decided and the amendments have long been implemented. In general, on what grounds are the amendments made? How are they determined? Issue a new constitution, hold a referendum and it will be legal, but since it smells of gypsy and forgery, in general, all this bundle of voting is muddy, not article by article, but all in bulk.
  • Dimmedroll
    Dimmedroll 18 June 2020 21: 20 New
    0
    Are you sure? He will be 69. But for example, I believe that this amendment violates my rights, why I can not vote more than 2 times for the president and I am happy. This may apply not only to Putin.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 14 June 2020 08: 18 New
    -12
    Well, that's nice .. And they say that TV has washed our brains. Remained on the Russian intellectuals! Although, the poem is full of contradictions .. But we do not ,, Literary newspaper ,, ...)
  • _Sergei_
    _Sergei_ 14 June 2020 08: 50 New
    +4
    The closer the vote (any that of the president or deputies) the greater the howl on the Internet. Like that Baba Yaga who is always against.
    1. Thunderbringer
      Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 28 New
      +2
      Moreover, the howl is the same, word for word.
      This alone makes us at least think, or maybe they are lying to us, these fighters for a brighter future?
      Do the authors of this howl think that the people are so stupid and behave?
  • Podvodnik
    Podvodnik 14 June 2020 15: 23 New
    14
    Cool batch went ... comments in verse.


    Mediocre few families
    By wealth and nods
    They own my homeland.
    Standing above all laws
    Wall stand around the king
    Like pugs greedy and angry
    And innocently saying:
    “After all, only we are Russia!”

    1855, A. Maikov
  • Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 14 June 2020 06: 56 New
    18
    Quote: Dead Day
    Nightingales sing near Kursk,

    In Moscow, backsides, as before, are licking ...

    I love my homeland,

    But I hate the state!

    Everywhere thieves, wherever you spit,

    And each of them flies "to the kingdom" ...

    I love my homeland

    But I hate the state!

    I remember Zhenya Yevtushenko sang other songs under the communists.
    About a mighty party, about all-Union construction projects.
    Licked asses in Moscow, did not frown ...
    I received prizes from the party leadership.
    And now, on you - at the end of your life the mouthpiece of free thought has become.
    Breathed the air of freedom ...
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 08: 16 New
      13
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      I remember Zhenya Yevtushenko sang other songs under the communists.
      About a mighty party, about all-Union construction projects.
      Licked asses in Moscow, did not frown ...
      I received prizes from the party leadership.
      And now, on you - at the end of your life the mouthpiece of free thought has become.
      Breathed the air of freedom ...

      Yes, they are all VICTIMS of the regime. Zhirinovsky, Pozner, Svanidze, Raikin, Makarevich ... up to and including Gorbachev.
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 14 June 2020 08: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      I remember Zhenya Yevtushenko sang other songs under the communists.

      We are watching "Today in the World", We are watching together, for a long time, Because there, on the air, Journalists are on the selection:

      Scrabble Seiful-Mulyukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      Who will tell us about Ghana, About Bermuda and AIDS. Who, tell us, from the screen tells the truth-womb?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      Who always said that the West lags behind Russia. And there is such a smell there, If the West is rotting all over?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      Who claims today, As if the West is not decaying, That, they say, the West is flourishing, But what about us?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      Who said in other years: "Thatcher is Yaga's grandmother!" And from the Statue of Liberty, the Image created an enemy?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      Who claims today - It was all wrong, Thatcher does not threaten us, Yes, and Bush is not an enemy at all?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      Who lives today only By what the people live, And for this restructuring On the screen the throat breaks?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!

      If perestroika is suddenly canceled by someone, Who will bend the Line just as smartly?

      The same all Seyful-Muliukov, Tsvetov - a man with his head, Zorin with his science And, of course, Borovik!
      (I recalled the youth that came to perestroika)
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 14 June 2020 11: 23 New
        +5
        In fairness, the second part does not apply to Farid Seyful-Mulukov.
    3. Freeman
      Freeman 14 June 2020 14: 34 New
      +1
      Paul Siebert Today, 06:56 AM
      I remember Zhenya Yevtushenko sang other songs under the communists.

      And with the "dermokrat", in the "holy 90s", I began to "sing" such.
      Here is the full text by A. Rosenbaum.

      [media = https: //youtu.be/rGPK97JFGN0]

      Shl. And what do you think became “wrong” with Yevtushenko?
      ZY.ZY. something video insertion is buggy
  • Genry
    Genry 14 June 2020 09: 14 New
    -2
    Quote: Dead Day
    I love my homeland,

    But I hate the state!

    You can go to the state that you adore.
    True, there you can love ....
  • Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 13: 33 New
    -21
    Quote: Dead Day
    I love my homeland

    But I hate the state!

    This is a marker of local (and not only) liberds ...

    What kind of "old" are you, damn ... you are not a little old for me, anyway younger)))
  • Greenwood
    Greenwood 14 June 2020 07: 03 New
    +6
    Quote: Snail N9
    What happened to the proposed amendment to ban foreign accounts and nedvig for state officials and deputies?
    The trick is that they continue to advertise this amendment on the radio. lol
    Quote: Snail N9
    By adopting this amendment, the citizens of Russia will be deprived of any opportunity to challenge the decisions of the authorities in an international court, which is based on the unconditional priority of universal human values ​​"and monitors the non-violation of human rights. That is, the Russian authorities can now adopt any, even the most inhuman laws, without looking back at the international the opinion and opinion of their people, who were deprived of the last opportunity to defend their rights in an international court.
    A kind of neo-feudalism. Have come.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 14 June 2020 07: 24 New
      13
      The next cunning plan of the grandmaster: without changing the Constitution - to change it.

      Hence the double profit. Because the Constitution of the type "has not changed", the national referendum provided for by law is not to be held. And because the Constitution of the type "changed", he considered that this gives the right to zero. And for the sake of fidelity, he also threw a correction about it.

      Everything in the spirit of a thimble - I want to confuse the twist of the twist.
    2. Basil50
      Basil50 14 June 2020 07: 27 New
      -15
      But I’m interested. As some meters from art to death, they measure in this very art and nothing. There are soros and other merkels with Zhirinovsky’s, unchanged, and ... and they have brains and nothing too, normal.
      It's a shame when they seem to be smart people, but they are led by something that they throw to the discussion from the side. At the same time refer to * world experience *. What is even more stupid.
      There is a queen in England who is still the head of the church and the head of the army and all special services and the head of their parliament barely moving from old age and this is * a model of democracy *. And she is not the only one in the world.
      And the actual owners of the United States ?. What about their tenure?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 14 June 2020 08: 19 New
        -15
        Quote: Vasily50
        It's a shame when they seem to be smart people, but they are led by something that they throw to the discussion from the side. At the same time refer to * world experience *. What is even more stupid.

        And how many times he was told and explained about this.
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 33 New
          +5
          What for?
          These are political trolls, fulfill the order filled in a brain.
          What can they explain?
        2. swetlana1
          swetlana1 14 June 2020 11: 33 New
          10
          Yes, we are Scythians, Scythians ...
          Freedom-loving and ready to stand up for themselves!
          We do not need the advice of the rotten West, which has long been under Pindovcemi ...
          We will decide how to vote.
      2. SeregaBoss
        SeregaBoss 14 June 2020 08: 21 New
        -13
        And what to explain to them? They have seen enough of the "box" pearl. And the fact that they have going on is quietly silent. Beyond the hillock, even the "rights of a giraffe" are respected not like ours. And Putin will circle everyone around his finger again, he will not be elected, and all this dregs so that now he does not turn into a lame duck according to "international" concepts.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 08 New
          +2
          The rights of a giraffe - which was killed in front of the eyes of children in one of the European zoos.
    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 14 June 2020 11: 25 New
      +5
      The amendment banning foreign accounts remained, so your malice is not clear.
      1. swetlana1
        swetlana1 14 June 2020 11: 35 New
        -1
        And they don’t care ...
        The main thing is to sow confusion in the brains of our citizens, who will not get it checked
      2. reader65
        reader65 14 June 2020 15: 40 New
        +2
        What about real estate?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 15 June 2020 01: 52 New
          -4
          There is no citizenship and no accounts - there is no real estate either, since real estate taxes must be paid locally and utility bills must be paid.
          1. reader65
            reader65 15 June 2020 04: 40 New
            +2
            Have you already canceled cash over the hill?
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 14 June 2020 08: 43 New
    -11
    Well there are right people like you who read all the corrections before the vote. Who know all the candidates in the election personally and their entire biography.
    The essence of the election is. so that people vote for the image created by the media.
    Quote: Snail N9
    Welcome to the emerging Russian "digital concentration camp"!

    It's like slogans against electricity and cars at one time.)))) It's especially funny to write about the "digital concentration camp" via a smartphone and the Internet.)))))) We are already there. Your "For" or "Against" will not change anything.)))
  • flicker
    flicker 14 June 2020 09: 29 New
    12
    We understand perfectly well that the majority of those who will go to the type of "express their opinion" have not read the amendments and are not going to read them, much less delve into their essence,
    yeah, like here good
    Quote: Snail N9
    Our elections have always been very "fair". I found the violations of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee minimal and there is no reason to doubt the "veracity" of their "results":
    [Quote] [/ quote]
    1. toha124
      toha124 14 June 2020 09: 48 New
      15
      In the illustration, by the way, Ukraine (on the ballot boxes a characteristic emblem).
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 14 June 2020 09: 52 New
        -9
        Quote: toha124
        In the illustration, by the way, Ukraine

        And some do not care.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 14 June 2020 10: 50 New
          +6
          Quote: Dart2027
          And some do not care.

          But is there a difference?
          Bashkiria, for example ..

          You can see the report about it
          https://rupres.com/russian/po-vsej-rossii-vbrasyvayut-byulleteni-video
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 14 June 2020 11: 20 New
            -12
            Quote: Silvestr
            Bashkiria, for example

            Quote: Silvestr
            Throws in the last presidential election in Russia were not only in favor of the candidate from power

            Decide?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 14 June 2020 11: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Decide

              Pamfilov read for understanding laughing
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 14 June 2020 13: 09 New
                -1
                Quote: Silvestr
                Pamfilov read

                And in your own words?
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 14 June 2020 22: 03 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  in your own words?


                  Bulletin emissions, in their own words, have a place to be
              2. ver_
                ver_ 19 June 2020 13: 00 New
                0
                ..and the one who shouted from the branches * .. the big giraffe - he knows better ... *
      2. vladimych
        vladimych 14 June 2020 10: 10 New
        -11
        Yes, they do not care, the main thing is to wipe.
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 36 New
          +5
          And they actively set cons.
          Make a conclusion who is going here, and why.
          This is their weakness, too obvious order, too obvious work on a carbon copy, the crowd.
          Because the lies that they write here still need to be refuted, but the methods are obvious and so.
          1. Vika728
            Vika728 14 June 2020 10: 42 New
            10
            Cons are actively put on both sides. There are more of them, however ...
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 14 June 2020 12: 52 New
            +4
            And they actively set cons.
            Appeal to the moderator. No need to tell anyone, it’s just interesting if the Thunderbolt Andrei set minuses today)? Reporting is optional. And then some are all so innocent.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 14 June 2020 10: 53 New
          +5
          Quote: vladimych
          Yes, they do not care, the main thing is to wipe.

          laughing The stuffing in the presidential elections held in Russia was not only in favor of the candidate from the authorities, said on Sunday, March 25, the chairman of the Central Election Commission Ella Pamfilova on the air of the NTV channel. In particular, in Lyubertsy "stuffing was" in favor of "another candidate," the head of the CEC said.
      3. flicker
        flicker 14 June 2020 10: 15 New
        11
        By the way, Ukraine (on the ballot boxes a characteristic emblem).
        All true.
        It was put in another topic by Snail N9, and here in the first comment (by the way, the article was posted at 04:52, and the snitch's comment was at 05:14, that is, he managed to read not a small text in 22 minutes and comment on it wink - an enviable capacity for work), he reproaches the "majority" for not getting into the essence, but sculpting a hunchback himself - a photo from Ukraine is passed off as a Russian one. winked
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 38 New
          +8
          Where does he live, from there did he take it?
          Anyway, someone will be postponed.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 14 June 2020 10: 41 New
    0
    Quote: Snail N9
    That is, the Russian authorities now can pass any, even the most inhuman laws, without looking back at international opinion and the opinion of their people, who were deprived of the last opportunity to defend their rights in an international court. Welcome to the emerging Russian "digital concentration camp"!

    not just digital - back to the iron curtain
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 14 New
      -7
      You have long been behind the curtain - but not iron, but icteric, like a dry sponge, absorb any infolage, and then squeeze it out for viewing by others.
    2. Motorist
      Motorist 14 June 2020 17: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Silvestr
      back to the iron curtain

      Sylvester and Churchill - this is power! laughing
  • Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 14 June 2020 10: 46 New
    +7
    Quote: Snail N9
    border demarcation and settlement of territorial disputes (hi Kurilam). But


    I see you have sentenced the Kuril Islands? Not too early?
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 14 June 2020 11: 33 New
      +2
      Oh, it would be nice to come back. Stock up on spare parts, for the first time, to screwdriver assembly, return the loot, dragged away in the beaks and close the gate with a clang. So that it doesn’t flow there. And clean the stables, set the brains.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 05 New
    -2
    Quote: Snail N9
    Himself to read, to delve into, it’s necessary to strain your brains, to understand what this or that will lead to.

    you, apparently, read and strained your brains, figured out !!!!
    Quote: Snail N9
    The amendment about "eternal" senators is also of no interest to anyone - just think, eternal senators, which is unprecedented.

    and now they are not eternal? ... by the way, in the USA the senator’s chair often passes from father to son.
    Quote: Snail N9
    which, as it were, cannot be given to the adversary, except ... as in the demarcation of the border and the settlement of territorial disputes (hello Kurilam)

    Ie essentially it does not change anything? - then why are you so excited?
    Quote: Snail N9
    and so on, nothing meaningful in reality,

    family, people, god, victory does this mean nothing? - Oh well......
    Quote: Snail N9
    minimum payment (about which it is not said that it should be indexed by the amount of inflation - keep it at whatever level you want just to not die right away)

    accordingly, nothing has changed, why are you so excited?
    Quote: Snail N9
    in fact, “international law” presupposes: freedom of thought and expression, personal inviolability before a court decision, the presumption of innocence, inviolability of home and property, equality of all before the law, freedom of protest and complaints, etc.

    oh, why are you so excited !!!!!! worry that the laws of the owner will not work in the territory of the Russian Federation !!!! all sorts of freedoms and the presumption of innocence, etc., we have seen in Ukraine / Syria / Libya / Iraq! court decisions in favor of Ukraine on gas disputes / and government debt, as well as court decisions in favor of yukos ..... THIS IS YOU ARE DISTURBED !!!!!!!!!
    1. Revival
      Revival 15 June 2020 14: 04 New
      0
      "the laws of the owner will not work on the territory of the Russian Federation !!!! all kinds of freedoms and the presumption of innocence, etc."
      Are you out of your mind?
      Does the presumption of innocence bother you?
      Ratate for the Inquisition, without trial!
  • NordUral
    NordUral 14 June 2020 14: 51 New
    +7
    I think that it’s already too late to read and think about what you read. But it’s not too late to think and make the right decision - go to the vote and say no to both the amendments and the crooks in power.
  • BecmepH
    BecmepH 14 June 2020 15: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: Snail N9
    in fact, “international law” presupposes: freedom of thought and expression, personal inviolability before a court decision, the presumption of innocence, inviolability of home and property, equality of all before the law, freedom of protest and complaints, etc.

    Here you are a storyteller)))
  • brat07
    brat07 14 June 2020 16: 34 New
    0
    One circumstance confuses me!
    In his article of June 11 - "Is it worth spoiling the ballot" the author urges to vote "with feet"!
    And in this -
    So July 1 is a very important day in the life of the country.

    Well, how to understand it?
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 15 June 2020 20: 55 New
    +6
    wink I read it. Your comments ..... Zombie box of Russia nervously smokes on the sidelines !!!!! wink
    I want to dwell on only a few aspects. Do you speak international law? This curiosity must first be learned from Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria .......
    International court say? This is where HAILI LIKELI is an indisputable proof? Is this where prosecutors voice testimonies of classified witnesses whom no one has ever seen, but for the court their testimonies are the main ones and a court decision can be made on their basis?
    It seems to me that if, as a result of the adoption of the amendments, we lose these "privileges", then we will only gain by gaining peace of mind and save our nerves. What is generally good for Russia doing abroad?
    Does territory require back? Rewriting history? If this were not all, then you can think about it. But this is all there! Lies and lies are flowing from the pages and screens of foreign media. They lie everywhere! On every corner! They constantly accuse Russia of anything horrible without evidence and allegedly impose sanctions as punishment. In every possible way they try to make life worse for Russians! Ukraine believed the west ........ Has it become better to live?
    It seems to me that to a greater extent against the amendments are those who, due to their foreign past, will not be able to take a place in government posts in Russia after the adoption of these same amendments .....
    I really hope that on your site everyone can express their opinion. And this will not be considered a violation.
  • Kazbek
    Kazbek 15 June 2020 22: 24 New
    +1
    And you can modestly ask who is this "population fooled by the Russian media"? Don't you count yourself among them? Or do you really think that only you and a handful of liberals have access to the Internet, access to alternative points of view, different from those broadcast on the central channels? Now 60-year-olds have free access to the Internet and they do not get out of their smartphones, having long scored on Russia24! Why only you "wonderful" can have a "correct" opinion, while the rest of the "people" are a bunch of zombie freaks? Maybe that's why you have 0.2% support with your nasralny, that you consider everyone who disagrees with your opinion to be cattle?
    Well, about international "law", the law is not even funny!
    Good luck in "your fight" for our minds! bully
  • Cottodraton
    Cottodraton 14 June 2020 05: 15 New
    -8
    How your whining lifted. It’s neither, it’s not that way. You remind me of Novodvorskaya. Wrestling - for the sake of anarchy!
    You are all D, Artagnans, but fools around!
    Now defending the CIA constitution ... for the sake of "protest" ...
    These morons of the late USSR ... Nothing new ...
    Who told you that when you change one face to another, you will be directly appeased with the changes? The president is the face of the country management team. He does nothing himself. Any attempts at willfulness lead to the fate of Kennedy ... In the same United States, the same people have been ruling for 200 years .., handing over power to children and grandchildren ... But no, the same "dimacracy" ...
    I see that some people here have also received "assistance in the development of democracy." So much straight monotonous whining in the morning. Don't think you're smarter than others, whiners. I will go to evil for you and vote
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 14 June 2020 06: 13 New
      -6
      but who, darling, forbids you ... go and vote if you are not particularly friendly with conscience and honor ...
      I personally, my relatives and all my friends do not intend to participate in this farce ...
      everything has already been decided long ago ... this vote is necessary only to give at least some sort of LEGITIMARITY raid to the rape of the Basic Law for the sake of governing to death ...
      nafig - nafig ... I was not and will not be an accomplice in the crime against the future of my country ...
      I won’t take part in the demoniac coven ...
      1. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 14 June 2020 06: 28 New
        +8
        Enough of this cheap demagoguery to write, "champions of conscience." Zadolbali crybabies. We have the main thing - the brain, the organ that you have mapped, as unnecessary ...
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 14 June 2020 06: 38 New
          -9
          Well, about the brains of the Putriots, you obviously flatter yourself ... you must be more modest, more modest ...
          By the way, your idol is an unsurpassed master of cheap demagogy ... laurels of superiority in idle talk are already held by 20 ... a professional, however ...
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 15: 17 New
            -10
            Quote: kepmor
            kepmor

            Nobody, nothing, and to call - nothing ... but - there - "I have the honor" ...

            Where, "buddy", "Spanish sadness" comes from? wink
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 14 June 2020 07: 04 New
          -10
          Quote: Cottodraton
          We have the main thing - the brain
          And your brain is nullified, right?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 20 New
            -7
            Yours, apparently, back in the 91st, reset - but the computer has not yet accepted a new program.
        3. Gennady Korsunov
          Gennady Korsunov 14 June 2020 07: 19 New
          -10
          Your brain works only in the direction of steal, and our people work towards the prosperity of the country !! And even if you have a brain, then he is oh, how PLUS would be afraid !! Which tomorrow can turn into beasts and even the brain is not like you !!! There will be no escape!
          1. Thunderbringer
            Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 40 New
            +2
            How would you not have to run yourself?
            Huh?
        4. snake
          snake 14 June 2020 11: 51 New
          -1
          Quote: Cottodraton
          The main thing we have is the brain, the organ that you have formed, as unnecessary ...

          It is always funny to read comments that mention the brain or intellect, and then, in the commentary itself, the work of this brain is demonstrated ...
      2. LeonidL
        LeonidL 14 June 2020 06: 54 New
        +4
        Protection EBNovskoy Constitution from rape! Freshly and widely written - similar to protecting a prostitute from a clientele.
        1. Freeman
          Freeman 14 June 2020 15: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: LeonidL
          Protection EBNovskoy Constitution from rape!

          You're wrong.
          This is an attempt to dress up a "dirty slut" in a "new outfit".
          wassat / sarcasm /
      3. Sobol
        Sobol 14 June 2020 07: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: kepmor
        I, my relatives and all my friends do not intend to participate in this farce ...

        Well, then your ballots, as the initiators need, will vote. Is it not possible to go to the polling station and vote against this farce, thereby showing your attitude to the current government?
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 41 New
          +9
          This is the most correct decision.
          Don't like the power? Vote against.
          Do you like power? Vote for.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 24 New
            -4
            These guys have a different solution - "I am against the amendments, but I will not vote"
        2. snake
          snake 14 June 2020 11: 55 New
          -5
          Quote: SoboL
          Is it not possible to go to the polling station and vote against this farce, thereby showing your attitude to the current government?

          By voting, you confirm the legitimacy of this farce. Which, in fact, is necessary for the organizers.
        3. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 June 2020 12: 56 New
          +3
          eat the most
          support the amendments. It’s important not how they vote. it matters how much comes.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 27 New
            -8
            Yours will hardly be there - most of the time they will sit at home, they will scratch their backs with a chair and knock on the keyboard while presenting an essay on the topic "Voting is rigged."
      4. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 13: 37 New
        -18
        Quote: kepmor
        go and vote if you aren’t particularly friendly with conscience and honor ...

        Are you saying that you are the only one here "friendly with honor"?

        Camper, damn it ... negative
    2. Deck
      Deck 14 June 2020 06: 33 New
      -12
      I'll go to evil and vote


      Are the buggers pushing hard?
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 07: 02 New
        13
        Representatives of the LGBT community ... they prefer not to shine now ... but in a more favorable environment I assure you they will rip off three skins for an oblique look in their direction.
        1. AUL
          AUL 14 June 2020 08: 23 New
          -10
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          but in a more favorable environment I assure you they will tear three skins from you for an oblique look in their direction.

          Wow, how scary! What, you already had a sad experience? laughing
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      4. Pilot
        Pilot 14 June 2020 07: 26 New
        -13
        Quote: Deck
        I'll go to evil and vote


        Are the buggers pushing hard?

        The other day, here, one little clip complained, supposedly four homosexuals (in his expression, representatives of the LGBT lobbyists) stuffed him with minuses on the very tonsils .. wassat I won’t call Nick, let him calmly recover. lol
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 14 June 2020 08: 21 New
          -8
          Yeah ... no luck, so no luck ..)
        2. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 43 New
          +7
          I watch you cram too.
          Are they also?
          1. Pilot
            Pilot 14 June 2020 12: 53 New
            -2
            Quote: Thunderbringer
            I watch you cram too.
            Are they also?

            You expect minusers to be called cockerels too, as some here wink ? It’s not in my rules to insult those who disagree with me that way, unless of course you confirm the opposite. On the other hand, the bourgeoisie doesn’t care what the loot is for, at least for the first time, at least from the bottom, so everyone who advocates this regime will automatically agree with the cock business (gay clubs, special shops, cafes, etc.), which under the current government, they will not ban and will not plant rear-wheel drive perverts, as was the case under Soviet power. That is, all this indecency will be promoted to the masses, because money does not smell for them. This is also indicated by the family amendment; otherwise, why is it still needed?



















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    3. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 14 June 2020 07: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Cottodraton
      I'll go to evil and vote

      Yeah !!!!!!! We’ll amend the constitution and we’ll heal !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Especially about the electoral system of transferring power to generations in the USA I liked it. They mixed everything together. That's how we live! !!!!!!!
      1. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 14 June 2020 16: 57 New
        -3
        The Bushs have a whole dynasty, dads, grandfathers of the Clintons, McCaines have been sitting for generations in politics ... I don't know how you live.
    4. parusnik
      parusnik 14 June 2020 07: 46 New
      20
      Now defending the CIA constitution ... for the sake of "protest" ...
      ... And why in 1993 they did not vote against her ... Or just now they realized that she was the CIA-shnaya ..
      1. SVD68
        SVD68 14 June 2020 08: 21 New
        -4
        Quote: parusnik
        ..And why in 1993 they didn’t vote against her ... Or just now they realized that she was the CIA-shnaya ..

        Why do you think you did not vote against? Voted against, of course. I personally definitely voted against. Just the point? Even then they considered it as necessary.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 14 June 2020 11: 30 New
          +7
          Even then they considered it as necessary.
          ... I, too, voted against, but when I came to the vote, I recognized the legitimacy of the constitution, if the majority votes for it, which happened as a result, more than 50% voted "for", for the CIA-shnuyu Constitution. The paradox is, in the CIA-shnoy Constitution, they do not cancel, but only make amendments, but in fact it remains CIA-shnoy, with a national flavor ... It turns out that you come to vote for or against, nevertheless, you confirm the legitimacy of the existing CIA-shnoy , with or without amendments ...
          1. SVD68
            SVD68 14 June 2020 14: 35 New
            +2
            I agree with you.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 June 2020 12: 57 New
        0
        .. And why in 1993 they did not vote against her
        You're lucky. The question is not understood, and those and these advantages are instructed.
      3. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 14 June 2020 17: 01 New
        0
        I was 9 years old then ... these are whiners-marasmatics who "honor and conscience" need to ask about it. Then it was their time (by the way, then they also whined "about glasnost, democracy and jeans", even I remember that). Eternal crybaby
    5. 210ox
      210ox 14 June 2020 07: 57 New
      -1
      Yes, the Constitution is Amerz. So it must be completely changed. And copies of the former, burn!
      1. Pilot
        Pilot 14 June 2020 08: 21 New
        -5
        Quote: 210ox
        Yes, the Constitution is Amerz. So it must be completely changed. And copies of the former, burn!

        I agree, but who will change, again the Putin bourgeois? No, it’s not good, first you need to bring the socialists into power and then we will change the Constitution already in the interests of the majority of citizens. In the meantime, it’s more correct to go about your business, not paying attention to that cockroach fuss ..
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 44 New
          +3
          Your socialists only talk much, and in the case of ordinary thieves, but also a beggar.
          1. Pilot
            Pilot 14 June 2020 11: 20 New
            -3
            Quote: Thunderbringer
            Your socialists only talk much, and in the case of ordinary thieves, but also a beggar.

            Do you like handing out labels to the right and to the left, then you enroll those who disagree with you in homosexuals, and now socialists have been appointed as thieves. Well then reprove Platoshkin, what did he steal?
            .................................................. .................................................. .........................................
            As for the talkers, the socialists are not suited to nonsense, so don’t worry. Your talker is cooler than the mountains. yes As for poverty, I agree, only misunderstandings, if socialists are your thieves, then why are they poor? request Diseased, they didn’t want to get better alone. laughing
        2. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 14 June 2020 17: 05 New
          +2
          As a former member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I’ll say that there are no close and there are no socialists. Either the very old people who need more attention, or the repulsed schizizans, or cunning crooks who jump from party to party, in search of personal gain. Alas and ah
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 08: 24 New
        14
        Quote: 210ox
        Yes, the Constitution is Amerz. So it must be completely changed. And copies of the former, burn!
        Baba Yaga against. For history, lay in the archives and libraries so that the EBN writhes. angry
      3. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 14 June 2020 11: 32 New
        +4
        Have you read American? In terms of text, it is more like the French Constitution. A section on federal relations recalls the Constitution of Germany, Austria, and India.
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 June 2020 12: 59 New
        -1
        Yes, the constitution is abominable.
        So presidents were elected by it. Now that the presidents never lie down are not timothy?
    6. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 14 June 2020 08: 45 New
      -10
      Quote: Cottodraton
      How your whining lifted. It’s neither, it’s not that way. You remind me of Novodvorskaya. Wrestling - for the sake of anarchy!

      How many minuses from the electorate Martirosyan, a logical candidate to replace Pu.
    7. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Cottodraton
      Now defending the CIA constitution ... for the sake of "protest" ...

      they are couch troops from a neighboring country (this site is very popular with them)
    8. NordUral
      NordUral 14 June 2020 14: 53 New
      +4
      I'll go to evil and vote
      And why go - lather the rope and into the loop, to spite me, for example.
    9. stylet
      stylet 17 June 2020 12: 47 New
      0
      Join
  • Far B
    Far B 14 June 2020 05: 18 New
    -6
    So it’s clear that all this farce is in order for the galley comb to continue the rowing with all his might, and there’s nothing to do with redistribution, so, by the way, they just ran by. I repeat my IMHO: we must go and vote against, because a boycott would only make sense if the minimum turnout threshold had not been canceled.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 June 2020 05: 35 New
      +8
      you and your associates just need to decide whether you want changes to the constitution or the old one suits you. Now you want to vote against. OK. and then what? and then we will just live the old way and that’s it. and nothing will change voooooobsche. ) struggle for the sake of struggle. no more. I'm here on the drum. I was not going to walk and I won’t go. but to vote against just because of a few points that you don’t like it is such a treshak .. for the sake of laughter, in my last article on this subject I wrote just one phrase — how I like to read comments in this topic. I was bombarded. question for what? for the fact that I like to read?) here and there too) minus for the sake of minuses)))
      1. Far B
        Far B 14 June 2020 05: 49 New
        16
        The article says in Russian in white (if you did not know this before) that most of the amendments that really deserve attention have long existed as laws. But as laws they are stupidly not executed. Why do they suddenly begin to be executed after being introduced into the Constitution? Because the Constitution is cool, and ordinary laws suck? Well, nonsense.
        As for "nothing will change if you vote against." So I assure you - nothing will change, even if you vote for. Because the arena will remain the same. And we will still be promised milk rivers with jelly banks, but in fact we will have an increase in the retirement age, new taxes and fees, and other tasteless buns. Because when revenue drops in a brothel, it is not the internal regulations that need to be changed, but new girls must be recruited. No other way.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 June 2020 05: 58 New
          -2
          because the constitution is the main law of the apparently country. "A large tree grows out of a small one, a nine-story tower begins to be built from a handful of land, a journey of a thousand or so begins with one step." but to compare your country with a brothel
          1. Far B
            Far B 14 June 2020 06: 07 New
            +7
            Do you think that ordinary, simple laws should not be executed? Just what is written in the constitution? Yes, this is how we live ... Listen, and then let's cram into the Constitution all-all-all! And the civil code, and family, and administrative - finally everything! Well, for the laws to work, if nothing else. To walk - so to walk!
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 14 June 2020 06: 14 New
              +5
              I do not call for a vote against. I'm just trying to understand what the old is better than the new, what if you say you want to leave it so ...
              1. Far B
                Far B 14 June 2020 06: 25 New
                -1
                What an exuberant fantasy you have, however. Where did you read that I want to leave the old Constitution? Or trying to conjecture for me? It’s not worth it, right, it’s not going well for you. For me, what's new, what's the old constitution is one vegetable. What is called, radish horseradish is not sweeter. As Comrade Stalin said, they are both worse. If we are to change, then change not only, and not so much the Constitution, as those who are responsible for its implementation, and even better - the socio-political formation, in other words, the system. On socialism.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 14 June 2020 06: 33 New
                  +3
                  Well, what conclusion should I draw when you say that you will vote against? what are you, as it were, but still against it?))) you can’t be a little pregnant. if you do not want a new one, then the old one is satisfied. I do not observe other variations. therefore, I ask, what is good in the old that you are ready to leave her? and spend your absolute right to vote on it. if you would care you wouldn’t just go. and you want to vote against.
                  1. Far B
                    Far B 14 June 2020 06: 41 New
                    0
                    And you do not draw conclusions, you also do not succeed. I do not see any reason to change the flea - for nothing. And I will only vote against zeroing, which I transparently hinted at in the very first comment to this article. If you really decided to draw conclusions, then at least take into account the entire branch of comments.
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 14 June 2020 06: 49 New
                      -1
                      Now it’s clear even for what you decided to spend your time) I wanted to understand this. that for the sake of one point you are ready to leave everything as before. your right. but I don’t care, I won’t go to the floor for this reason)
                      1. depressant
                        depressant 14 June 2020 10: 36 New
                        -1
                        The conversation between colleagues Far D and carstorm 11 seems close to the point. I will also express one of my assumptions why such a rush.
                        I repeat: one of many. After all, the reasons are probably a whole complex, and therefore there can be many assumptions.

                        The laws of the Russian Federation, from the point of view of representatives of big business, have gained an excessively critical mass of benefits for the poor - pensions, benefits, etc., which looks like a slide into the Soviet system and strains the rich. In addition, there are too many in the State Duma, albeit in words, albeit in many cases only declaratively, but nevertheless socially oriented political parties: the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party, the Socialist Revolutionaries - but there is not a single party that openly drowns for the interests narrow wealthy segment of the population. Even EP, in fact not being the savior of the people, now and then dresses up in white robes of the highest virtue. However, she is mainly engaged in making decisions that he needs at Putin's command. Namely - in the interests of their "friends", throwing soothing handouts to the people in the form of benefits, often simply drowning in a bureaucratic sea and therefore, in fact, often - populism.
                        All this, naturally, hinders those capitalists who are not Putin's "friends". They can only bribe United Russia, but they cannot fearlessly strengthen their economic positions within the country and expand their stratum.
                        There is also no doubt that the outlined external pressure on all our rich is increasingly accumulating their economic interests in Russia, which forces them to a much closer consolidation within the country, and this can only be done in the form of legal party representation in government bodies. Even simply because it often turns out like this: I bought a deputy, and the money wasted, because under the pressure of the political authorities lobbying works poorly, or does not work at all. It seems to us that the authorities give the oligarchs privileges by whistle, but they do not think so. They want to receive benefits as a result of the activities of their own party. They are humiliated by their dependence on the president. We believe that the authorities are feeding us from their own hands, but the oligarchs also believe that they are feeding from Putin's hands. Do not want! All oligarchs do not want - both "friends" and foes. They are tired of it. What forces both of them to unite behind Putin's back.
                        The increased pressure from the law enforcement agencies inside the country, which acts extremely selectively, not according to the law, but according to the concepts of whom the law enforcement officer sees, and Putin's “friends”, also prompts the joint political construction of the oligarchs - Putin's "friends" and enemies. - no. But where is the guarantee that the law enforcement officer will not come to the "friends"? There is no such guarantee!
                        Thus, there are three factors that objectively force the large capital of our country to form their own political party:
                        - "Soviet" redundancy of social guarantees for the population;
                        - both external, that is, from the side of another's law, and internal pressure from law enforcement officers;
                        - Weak returns on lobbying under Putin’s dictatorship.
                        Obviously, the situation in which all the oligarchs (Putin’s friends and enemies) see themselves cornered is extremely critical for them and should be resolved. Indeed, some time ago, Deripaska announced that he was going to stir up his own political party. Once the attempt was in the form of the party of Prokhorov. But she was artificial, also dressed in white clothes and was a failure, like the E-mobile.
                        Apparently, at the moment the situation has become aggravated, and, from the point of view of all oligarchs, it seems to them so favorable for entering the political world that Putin's "friends" and enemies are united and are ready to give Putin a fight. Which can overthrow Putin from the throne and lead to serious destabilization and weakening of the state. Hence follows Putin's hasty shoveling of the Constitution with the introduction into it of the social that already works - he is defending himself! But he does not protect us, he protects himself, pretending to protect us.
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 13: 46 New
                        -13
                        Planet Shelezyak: no water. There is no vegetation. Populated by robots.

                        That's all you need to know about the nickname "Depressant"
                      3. Motorist
                        Motorist 14 June 2020 18: 48 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Populated by robots.
                        That's all you need to know about the nickname "Depressant"

                        You think? And how to distinguish them from people - in too literate text? You, like, a programmer - tell me!
                        PS Wow, wrote this comment - the computer freezes; Rise of the Machines...
                      4. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 14 June 2020 19: 00 New
                        -11
                        Quote: Motorist
                        And how to distinguish them from people - in too literate text?

                        One more time:

                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Planet Shelezyak: no water. There is no vegetation ...

                        + nickname "Depressant". Everything seems clear? request

                        Life is Beautiful. It is only necessary to correctly select antidepressants (s).
                      5. Motorist
                        Motorist 14 June 2020 19: 14 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Does everything seem to be clear?

                        Clear.
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        choose the right antidepressants

                        Diamond dust in grease. laughing
              2. aglet
                aglet 14 June 2020 13: 31 New
                +6
                "This is what I wanted to understand. For the sake of one point, you are ready to leave everything as before"
                and you decided that then, after the "encouragement," everything will go differently? I will disappoint you a little - the laws by which we live in the old way have not been canceled, and for each of the 400 hundred amendments there will be no new law take. everything will remain as it was, except for, well, you know how
          2. Mar.Tirah
            Mar.Tirah 14 June 2020 08: 01 New
            12
            Quote: carstorm 11
            You can’t be a little pregnant. if you do not want a new one, then the old one is satisfied.

            And I will explain to you only one correction, and you already decide whether she is pregnant or not.
            This wording DOES NOT CANCEL, for example, the possible transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan, as Japan is a neighboring state. Damansky moved to China as a result of delimitation. According to international laws, the border was drawn along the main channel of the Amur ... Neighboring countries
            1. Abkhazia
            2 Azerbaijan
            3. Belorussia
            4. Georgia
            5 Kazakhstan
            6. China
            8. Latvia
            9 Lithuania
            10. Mongolia
            11 Norway
            12 Poland
            13. USA (maritime border)
            14 Ukraine
            15. Finland. And not a single legal assessment from lawyers. Morons.
            1. flicker
              flicker 14 June 2020 08: 46 New
              +9
              This wording DOES NOT CANCEL, for example, the possible transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan, as Japan is a neighboring state. Damansky moved to China as a result of delimitation.

              And "delimitization" is generally needed or not, is there a need for it between neighboring states?
            2. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 14 June 2020 09: 27 New
              15
              Oleg! However, you are right! Without going into the essence of your comment, I thought. "Well, here's another mourner." Took the trouble to figure it out. And what turned out to be. I quote "Delimitation of the border (lat. Delimitatio - the establishment of borders) - the definition of the general position and direction of the state border between neighboring states through negotiations". So you are right. Through negotiations - even Kaliningrad, even Vyborg. But through negotiations! Demarcation is different. This is after laying the border line on the map as a result of delimitation, fixing the border line on the ground.
            3. tagil
              tagil 14 June 2020 09: 41 New
              +9
              Quote: Mar. Tira
              Damansky moved to China as a result of delimitation. According to international laws, the border was drawn along the main fairway of the Amur.
              So what's your explanation? If you even have no idea what you are explaining, or are you a border guard? I'll explain to you, because unlike you, I have an idea of ​​what you are "explaining" here. The Russian Federation concludes a separate agreement on the passage of the State Border with each country with which it borders. So, the main fairway along the Amur has changed, if it passed along the Chinese side, then we would get a section of Chinese territory. But it changed in favor of China. Damansky Island was given away. In a hundred years the fairway will change again, Damansky will return, maybe with some Chinese city. So do not throw a tantrum.
              This wording NEVER CANCEL, for example, the possible transfer of the Kuril Islands to Japan
              Do not meddle with a clever air about the "Law on the State Border".
              1. snake
                snake 14 June 2020 12: 10 New
                -5
                Quote: Tagil
                So, the main channel along the Amur River has changed, if it had passed along the Chinese side, then we would have got a piece of Chinese territory. But he has changed in favor of China. Father Damansky gave. In a hundred years, the fairway will change again, Damansky will return,

                Why wait 100 years?
              2. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 15 June 2020 06: 16 New
                +5
                How tired I am of such all-knowing urya-patriots. Right Roman, why do we need expert advice, expertise, discussion of amendments, here it is, the conclusion !!!!! You have already decided everything, discussed everything and found the "right" solution. A month and not We managed to do it in a day. You saw AMUR, were on it, you know hydrography, hydrogeology, what would you think like that? As for the Chinese town that joined us, are you a dreamer? The main fairway will change if the EARTH turns over because all the rivers in Siberia and In the Far East, and in general, all currents are directed to the NORTH. If you do not understand why, I will explain separately. The border with China runs along the Upper and Middle Amur, and in some areas its channel is divided into several branches. The border follows the channel of the deepest channel. I form almost all ducts, bends of different sizes and roundings. As a result of flooding, powerful streams in places straighten these bends. Accordingly, the main current moves in them over time. In most cases, the channels along the Russian coast develop more actively. This negative trend will continue to develop in the future. And it may so happen that the deepest channel is formed along the Russian coast, leaving China a number of islands. There are several such sites on the border Amur. The main threat arises at the mouth of the Sungari, where several large Russian islands with an area of ​​about 300 square kilometers may eventually change their affiliation. And this territory is almost equal to the area of ​​Singapore. They gave away not only the island drenched with Russian blood, they gave away a lot. In 2005, Russia, by agreement, gave China one and a half islands in the Khabarovsk Territory - the Tarabarov Island and part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island went to the Celestial Empire. An agreement on these territorial concessions was signed between the leaders of Russia and China. Legally, the island of Tarabarov and half of the island of Bolshoy Ussuriysky after the demarcation of the Russian-Chinese border were transferred to China in October 2008. And they will give it back as it was more than once. There is no law in the constitution prohibiting giving land to other states to any authorities, these are the tricks of the amendment and created to bargain. I am offended for the state. Because those borders that I guarded were shamefully given by the former Shevardnadze in the Bering Sea gave 34 thousand square miles of the oil-bearing region by a sole decision, and then led it through the Politburo, as a result of the delimitation of maritime spaces in accordance with the Agreement in the Bering Sea, the United States withdrew: a part of the exclusive economic zone of the USSR with an area of ​​23,7 thousand square kilometers, actually transferred by the Soviet Union to the United States of America back in 1977; part of the exclusive economic zone of the USSR with an area of ​​7,7 thousand square kilometers; an area of ​​the continental shelf with an area of ​​46,3 thousand square kilometers in the open central part of the Bering Sea
                Quote: Tagil
                I'll explain to you, because unlike you, I have an idea of ​​what you are "explaining"

                And here is more detailed, because I don’t know anything about you. Judging by the presentation, there is this same developer of the amendment. Do not explain to me the border guard of the two seas, who never had in his hands a collection of laws on the state border?
              3. tagil
                tagil 15 June 2020 09: 35 New
                +1
                How tired I am of such all-knowing urya-patriots. Rights Roman, why do we need expert advice, expertise, discussion of amendments, here it is, conclusion !!!!
                I, too, am tired of reading all sorts of experts similar to you who may possibly walk by sea, but climb onto land and still explain what delimitization, demorcation, limology, and barrier are. Leave the Amur hydrography alone, because the border passes according to the contract, and not hydrography.
                The line of the Russian-Chinese state border from the seventh border point to the eighth border point, which are described in Article 2 of the Agreement between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the People’s Republic of China on the Soviet-Chinese state border on its eastern part of May 16, 1991, runs as follows :
                From the seventh border point, the state border line goes up the Prorva River (the Hailar River on the Chinese map) in the middle of the river’s water stream or in the middle of its main sleeve in the general southeast direction to the middle of the water stream or the middle of the Prorva river’s main branch (on the Chinese map - the Hailar river) with the middle of the water stream or the middle of the main arm of the Argun river (on the Chinese map - the nameless river), then goes down the river Argun (on the Chinese map - the nameless river) in the middle of the water stream or in the middle of its main sleeves in the general north-north-east direction to the border point 7/1. This border point is located in the middle of the water stream or in the middle of the main branch of the Argun river (on the Chinese map - the nameless river) with approximate rectangular coordinates: x = 5, y = 490.
                From border point 7/1, the state border line runs in a straight line northward, crossing Bolshoi Island (on the Chinese map - Abagaytu zhouzhu island), to border point 7/2. This border point is located in the middle of the water stream or in the middle of the main arm of the Prorva River (Ergunache River on the Chinese map) with approximate rectangular coordinates: x = 5 496 160, y = 20 564 380.
                From border point 7/2, the state border line runs downstream of the Prorva River (Ergunache River on the Chinese map) in the middle of the river’s water stream or in the middle of its main branch in a general east-northeast direction to the eighth border point.
                The line of the Russian-Chinese state border from the tenth border point to the eleventh border point, which is described in Article 2 of the Agreement between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the People’s Republic of China on the Soviet-Chinese state border on its eastern part of May 16, 1991, runs as follows :
                From the tenth border point, the state border line goes down the Amur River (on the Chinese map - the Heilongjiang River) in the middle of its main channel in a general east direction to the border point 10/1. This border point is located at the intersection of the middle of the main channel of the Amur River (the Heilongjiang River on the Chinese map) and the line running along the perpendicular from the shore from border point 10/2.
                From the border point 10/1, the state border line runs along the above perpendicular southward to the border point 10/2. This border point is located on the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island (on the Chinese map - Heisyatszydao Islands), has rectangular coordinates with an approximate value of x = 5 358 650 and a value of y = 23 482 570.
                From the border point 10/2, the state border line runs in a straight line in a southeast direction along the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island (on the Chinese map - Heisyatszydao Islands) to the border point 10/3. This boundary point has approximate rectangular coordinates: x = 5 358 300, y = 23 482 740.
                From the border point 10/3, the state border line runs in a straight line in a south-south-west direction along the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island (on the Chinese map - Heisyatszydao islands) to the border point 10/4. This boundary point has approximate rectangular coordinates: x = 5, y = 349.
                From the 10/4 border point, the state border line runs in a straight line in a southeast direction along the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island (on the Chinese map - the Heisyatszydao island) to the 10/5 border point. This boundary point has approximate rectangular coordinates: x = 5, y = 349.
                From the 10/5 border point, the state border line runs in a straight line in a southeast direction along the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island (on the Chinese map - the Heisyatszydao island) to the 10/6 border point. This boundary point has approximate rectangular coordinates: x = 5, y = 349.
                From the border point 10/6, the state border line runs in a straight line in a southerly direction to the eleventh border point.
                The line of the Russian-Chinese state border described above is plotted in red on maps of the PRC and maps of the former USSR on a scale of 1: 100000. The values ​​of the rectangular coordinates given in the description of the state border line are measured on these maps.
                The above maps with the red line of the Russian-Chinese state border are attached to this Supplemental Agreement and form an integral part thereof.
              4. tagil
                tagil 15 June 2020 09: 41 New
                0
                Any natural changes that may occur on the terrain in the border strip do not entail changes in the position of the Russian-Chinese state border demarcated on the terrain in the areas specified in Article 1 of this Supplementary Agreement, as well as in the ownership of the islands, unless the Contracting Parties agree otherwise.
                The ownership of the islands that appeared on the border rivers after the demarcation of the border line is determined in accordance with the position of the demarcated border line, and the ownership of the islands that appeared directly on the demarcated border line will be determined through consultation between the Contracting Parties on an equitable and rational basis.
                In 2005, Russia agreed to give China one and a half islands in the Khabarovsk Territory - Tarabarov Island and part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island went to the Celestial Empire. An agreement on these territorial concessions was signed between the leaders of Russia and China. Legally, the island of Tarabarov and half of the island of Bolshoi Ussuriysky, after the demarcation of the Russian-Chinese border, departed to China in October 2008.

                The islands legally and in the international legal sense did not belong to anyone, and at the conclusion of the 1991 border agreement between the USSR and the PRC, the ownership of the three islands was also not determined.
              5. Mar.Tirah
                Mar.Tirah 15 June 2020 10: 30 New
                +1
                Quote: Tagil
                I'm also tired of reading all kinds of experts like you,

                Actually, it was about constitutional amendments and tricks that could come to us sideways, rather than reprinting publications, and yet the tricks in the amendments are still a whole bunch. Well, this is the site’s policy. You didn’t understand me, dear, well, whoever wanted to understand that if the borders are sacred, then they should be sacred and not touching for everyone Only then do not be surprised that they cut off a piece of land or sea as a result of negotiations or friendship from Russia, as it was after my first post in the Bering Sea. All the best.
              6. tagil
                tagil 15 June 2020 11: 02 New
                -1
                borders are sacred then they must be sacred and not touched
                So what is the problem if the amendment to the Constitution clearly says "Prohibition of actions aimed at changing the border of the Russian Federation." In my opinion, there is nowhere more clear.
  • AUL
    AUL 14 June 2020 08: 29 New
    +3
    Quote: carstorm 11
    I'm just trying to understand what the old is better than the new, what if you say you want to leave it so ...

    The trouble is not that the old is better than the new, but that the new is no better than the old, and even shame with zeroing - an amendment for a specific person!
    1. snake
      snake 14 June 2020 12: 18 New
      -5
      Quote: AUL
      The trouble is not that the old is better than the new, but that the new is no better than the old

      The old constitution did not prevent Putin from promising "18 years of brilliant victories" at the elections in 10. And then, all of a sudden, he decided to make us "happy" by extending his "wise" rule ...
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 12 New
    -4
    Quote: carstorm 11
    let's say you want to leave her so ...

    they really want to leave the priority of international law, but they cannot say directly about it - that’s why they are expressively florid.
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 06: 19 New
    +2
    Is the foundation of this tower strong?
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 06: 22 New
    -7
    Quote: carstorm 11
    "A large tree grows out of a small one, a nine-story tower begins to be built from a handful of land, a journey of a thousand or so begins with one step." but to compare your country with a brothel

    You give the wrong examples. You need to remember another image:

    Compare photos before serving in government agencies and after ...
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 June 2020 06: 23 New
      +3
      what for? the conversation does not seem to be about people in this service but about the constitution.
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    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 June 2020 07: 15 New
      0
      I do not care who is at the helm. . because whoever you do not want to put in his place will also run into reality and everything will be exactly the same. although a communist, even a socialist, even a capitalist, is first and foremost a person of the system. and to fight the system even at the very top will naturally end in a fatal defeat for the one who starts it. you will be thrown a bone that would be left behind and everything will end there. and everything will remain as before)
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 14 June 2020 07: 32 New
    14
    Quote: Dalny V
    most of the amendments that really deserve attention have long existed as laws.


    only amendments in the form of laws, unlike those prescribed in the Constitution, the court from the district to the supreme can both take into account and not take into account. And what is written in the Constitution is mandatory for execution without any interpretation by all Russian courts.
    1. AUL
      AUL 14 June 2020 09: 38 New
      -7
      Quote: lopvlad
      only amendments in the form of laws, unlike those prescribed in the Constitution, the court from the district to the supreme can both take into account and not take into account. And what is written in the Constitution is mandatory for execution without any interpretation by all Russian courts.

      The judge, taking the decision, is guided by:
      - laws
      - clarification (interpretation) of laws by the supreme court,
      - enforcement practice (well, a very vague concept),
      - own conscience (an even more vague concept)
      but not the constitution. An interesting picture, isn't it?
    2. Freeman
      Freeman 14 June 2020 15: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: lopvlad
      Quote: Dalny V
      most of the amendments that really deserve attention have long existed as laws.


      only amendments in the form of laws, unlike those prescribed in the Constitution, the court from the district to the supreme can both take into account and not take into account.And what is prescribed in the Constitution is mandatory for implementation without any interpretations by all courts of Russia.

      Three times HA! wassat


      Shl. This is a photo from the official website of the State Duma, and not "evil trolling from a liberal."
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 14 June 2020 08: 47 New
    -15
    Quote: Dalny V
    And we will still be promised milk rivers with jelly banks,

    Honestly, you need a new mobilization and everyone needs to plow like in the 30s and you will be immediately ready to work like Pavel Korchagin?
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 33 New
    -6
    There was one document - and now there will be two documents that can be poked in the face.
  • Pilot
    Pilot 14 June 2020 06: 40 New
    +4
    Quote: carstorm 11
    you and your associates just need to decide whether you want changes to the constitution or the old one suits you. Now you want to vote against. OK. and then what? and then we will just live the old way and that’s it. and nothing will change voooooobsche. ) struggle for the sake of struggle. no more. I'm here on the drum. I was not going to walk and I won’t go. but to vote against just because of a few points that you don’t like is such a treshak ..
    I will not answer for everyone, but I will voice my position. I don’t see the fundamental difference between Yeltsin’s and Putin’s constitution, because the main thing for me is missing
    socialist course of the country
    The faces are all the same, and the songs are all the same, since the time of Yeltsin, so let them go through the woods with their Talmuds!
  • Miyamoto musasi
    Miyamoto musasi 14 June 2020 07: 55 New
    -4
    It is necessary before that those laws that are
  • Stas157
    Stas157 14 June 2020 06: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: Far In
    So it’s clear that this whole farce is for to galley ragger and further rowing with all my might,

    For our non-alternative to become already non-alternative. And his friends (who aren’t like oligarchs), while he rules, will make a dag scratch (from the public domain).
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 16 New
      -3
      Quote: Stas157
      For our non-alternative to become already non-alternative.

      in the sense of ours? you are from Ukraine ... why "our"?
  • Tatyana Sementsova
    Tatyana Sementsova 14 June 2020 07: 41 New
    +9
    Do you want to row the other way? Tell us which one? And how are the amendments hindering you? Are they holding you by the "oars"? Explain how what exactly .... We will listen to you with pleasure. Only briefly, clearly, without "FOR" wink
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 19 New
      -3
      Quote: Tatiana Sementsova
      And what are the amendments preventing you?

      worried that Stockholm arbitration could no longer subsidize their country ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 35 New
      -3
      There they do not hold for the "oars" but for the "coconuts" - the Bounty is coming to an end.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 14 June 2020 13: 01 New
    +2
    a boycott would make sense
    meaning is always there. The people boycotted and boycotted the mask regime, and when they do not come to the polling stations, they might think a little. For example, they will increase the number of the National Guard.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 14 June 2020 14: 55 New
    +1
    one has to go and vote against, because a boycott would only make sense if the minimum turnout threshold had not been canceled.
    The only way, Michael! Therefore, I persuade not to go. Only NO!
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 14 June 2020 05: 40 New
    +6
    After the Serdyukov-Vasilieva case, I realized that the laws in Russia do not work and they can be interpreted in their own way, Putin and his team are the main violators of the laws of the Russian Federation, all of them under trial.
    1. Ragnar Lodbrok
      Ragnar Lodbrok 14 June 2020 06: 34 New
      +5
      Exactly, we have a law (read-Constitution) that draws, as it turned, it happened. As we see.
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    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 05: 58 New
      10
      And who is the employer? Gulchatay show your face.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 14 June 2020 05: 59 New
        10
        It is necessary to ask the author.
    2. saigon
      saigon 14 June 2020 06: 31 New
      +3
      An interesting person expresses his opinion, and you immediately have an employer, order, glue labels.
      You like that vote for and happiness to you in bright tomorrow.
      I don’t like a lot of amendments repeating existing laws and I am against it, I don’t like zeroing the deadlines and I am against, after the pension reform any initiatives of the government and its faithful Edrosia cause rejection.
      Do you just turn on the foolish mode or do you sincerely think that four hundred amendments adopted in an emergency order is this wonderful?
      You like the amendments vote for and quietly be proud of it.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 14 June 2020 11: 15 New
        +5
        and you immediately have an employer, order, glue labels

        Not immediately, but based on the analysis of a series of articles by this author on this topic.
        1. saigon
          saigon 14 June 2020 12: 51 New
          0
          About it is difficult to analyze Roman always shakes him)).
          But excuse what he is wrong right now.
          And if he used to drown for power, then he was reforged.
          What is not surprising, a person’s opinion is changing, a simple example of how many former communists fervently bruise their foreheads in temples, not otherwise they have seen.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 June 2020 13: 03 New
          0
          analysis result
          and you read the author’s articles in 2014. maybe it will come why he was disappointed. If you are really capable of analysis.
  • Xopek
    Xopek 14 June 2020 05: 48 New
    -3
    Apparently they are in a hurry while there is an opportunity to push through "with popular support." In 4 years, part of today's stable electorate - pensioners, will leave for natural reasons, and new ones will not "come" instead. I talked with people who were 5 years old before retirement and now 10 years old. It had a very sobering effect. But they won't vote because of the virus. well, his "so risk it." But the fearless current retirees will go and vote. On TV, they say that a plateau, a recession, they just would not be canceled, it is not fools who sit, but people with education (C). But the older people get, the more they will realize that earlier they would have already retired, and they will work for another 5 years.
    1. Tatyana Sementsova
      Tatyana Sementsova 14 June 2020 07: 45 New
      +9
      And call the exemplary team surname in power, which would suit you. And how do they suit you more. (If possible) Thank you.
      1. bar
        bar 14 June 2020 08: 36 New
        +6
        And call the exemplary team surname in power, which would suit you.

        This is a question below the belt. laughing
        The task of whining all-crawlers is whining. They don’t know anything else. They are not able to degenerate any constructive proposals. All of this resource, with the exception of increasingly rare articles on military subjects, the editorial staff devoted to the sewer of discontent. Perhaps it was for this that he was created.
        1. Thunderbringer
          Thunderbringer 14 June 2020 10: 50 New
          +7
          Specific people are behind any resource, and resource owners are above them.
          Apparently the owners have changed.
          Initially, it was completely different, and definitely created as completely patriotic.
          1. Rozz
            Rozz 14 June 2020 11: 05 New
            +5
            The resource owner is normal people.
            The article is simply scandalous ...
            And ours is all in business. Who is in the country, who is in the field ... Therefore, liberals loafers clouds like clouds, like a mosquito
          2. snake
            snake 14 June 2020 12: 26 New
            -9
            Quote: Thunderbringer
            Specific people are behind any resource, and resource owners are above them.
            Apparently the owners have changed.

            The Zaputins are not able to reason outside the "master - slave" paradigm. After all, where is it seen that any person does not have a master? ̶U̶m̶u̶ ganglion is incomprehensible.
        2. tatra
          tatra 14 June 2020 11: 18 New
          -2
          The enemies of the communists tell and prove everything about themselves, including the fact that when before the last "Putin elections" the "left" united, created their own Program for Russia and its people, chose their presidential candidate, the enemies of the communists in power and their paid propagandists on TV, in the media, on the Web, staged a large-scale frenzy against the candidate from the "left" in the eternal for the enemies of the communists with lies, slander, rudeness, insults, hypocritical "righteous anger" in order to discredit both him and the "Left" program, which they themselves admitted their alternative for themselves, their power and the System. And by the example of the persecution and robbery of Grudinin, the authorities showed that they would not allow anyone to "protrude", that the "political field" of Russia should be thoroughly cleaned out. Only liberals hated by the people can pretend to be the opposition, so that the authorities slip them over to the people as a "horror story" - if you don't want Putin and United Russia, then they will be.
          1. stylet
            stylet 17 June 2020 12: 56 New
            0
            Grudinin is neither a communist nor a leftist, he is a bourgeois, the Communist Party showed this advancement
            1) In the entire Communist Party there is not a single worthy candidate;
            2) Zyuganov understands that they will not vote for him, but does not want to resign;
            3) The Communist Party completely discredited itself as a party.
        3. Tatyana Sementsova
          Tatyana Sementsova 14 June 2020 12: 27 New
          +5
          So I about the same ...... And for this statement the admin issued a warning to me ..... For trolling !!!!! request
        4. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 June 2020 13: 10 New
          0
          sewer discontent
          What are you doing here, Mr. Cesspool? Go where there is one contentment.
      2. Vika728
        Vika728 14 June 2020 10: 46 New
        +4
        The main thing for them is to pour mud - they pay for it.
        And measures - they don’t pay for it
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 June 2020 13: 08 New
        -1
        example team
        Protest This is a provocation. And then it turns out that all these people took all the money abroad, as was the case with Grudinin.
      4. Minato2020
        Minato2020 15 June 2020 05: 40 New
        -1
        Quote: Tatyana Sementsova

        And call the exemplary team surname in power, which would suit you.
        And how do they suit you more. (If possible) thanks.


        There was one contender with the team, but crashed in a helicopter ...
        Another crashed in a car, the third is serving or departing ...
        So there will be no more surnames and teams ... at all ...
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 22 New
      -3
      Quote: XopeK
      I talked with people who had previously been 5 years before retirement and became 10.

      give a specific example (year of birth / gender / length of service, there was a term / became)
      Or did you come up with everything?
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 05: 48 New
    +5
    The situation resembles a scene from Pinocchio ... when the cunning Aliska sniffed his gold from Leopold's cat ... he poor fellow realizes that he was cheated but cannot prove anything because of ignorance of arithmetic ... a classic situation. The main drafters of the laws of Klishas and Krashennikov ... for all disputed laws, please contact them.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 14 June 2020 08: 19 New
      +9
      - We have five gold ones. So? Five is not divided into two? Not divided, right? Let's try to divide ... into five! It turns out ... one! Get it!
      - Don’t confuse me!
      “Basilio, when did I confuse you?”
      - Don’t confuse me!
      - Well, when did I confuse you?
      - Do we have four gold?
      - Four.
      - Well, four by five is not divided? Not sharing! So I’ll take this non-dividing half for myself. Well, I'm always glad to help a friend ...
      - Deceived ... Yes? Confused ...
      - Are you kidding?
      - Oh, you mean one!
  • Owl
    Owl 14 June 2020 05: 52 New
    0
    The so-called "popular vote on amendments to the Constitution" is simply an exercise in portraying popular support for the "amendments" already "adopted" by the current "rulers" and approved by the "guarantor." All the so-called patriotic amendments have the level of bylaws and most often duplicate the non-working laws adopted in Russia earlier. The creatures who are "in power", by their actions, showed complete disregard and disrespect for the ordinary population of Russia, that is, for the People, removing everything from the "amendments" (accounts and real estate abroad, criminal punishment for dual citizenship while in the civil service), which may complicate their "sweet life at the expense of the taxpayer with elements of theft and treason".
    1. Nikolaich
      Nikolaich 14 June 2020 08: 44 New
      16
      The creatures who are "in power", by their actions, showed complete disregard and disrespect for the ordinary population of Russia, that is, for the People, removing everything from the "amendments" (accounts and real estate abroad, criminal punishment for dual citizenship while in the civil service)

      However, the lie is Mr. Good and the like. Here I have a text comparing constitutions before my eyes, where black and white ... Art. 94, p. 4. Well and accordingly, it is similar for officials, deputies, judges, prosecutors, etc.
      A senator of the Russian Federation may be a citizen of the Russian Federation who has reached 30 years of age, has been permanently resident in the Russian Federation, has no citizenship of a foreign state or a residence permit or other document confirming the right to permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation in the territory of a foreign state. In accordance with the procedure established by federal law, senators of the Russian Federation are prohibited from opening and having accounts (deposits), from storing cash and valuables in foreign banks located outside the territory of the Russian Federation.
      1. Owl
        Owl 14 June 2020 21: 12 New
        +2
        In Russia, unfortunately, it is necessary to prohibit opening and having accounts (deposits), keeping cash and valuables in foreign banks, not only for government officials of any level and deputies, but also for their closest relatives. Example: a working pensioner, the owner of 7 companies - Volodin's mother, it will also be with deposits, real estate, with equity participation in business abroad, deposits and other "benefits in the territory of a potential ally" will be recorded on children, parents and other relatives ...
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 25 New
      -2
      Quote: Eagle Owl
      The so-called "popular vote on amendments to the Constitution" is simply an exercise to portray popular support for the "amendments" already "adopted" by the current "rulers" and approved by the "guarantor."

      and in a neighboring country, constitutional amendments were made without a vote .... and nothing ....
  • AsmyppoL
    AsmyppoL 14 June 2020 05: 56 New
    +9
    Too many emotions and often off topic ....
    A liter of milk - what does the Constitution have to do with it?
    The author seems to have no idea about the system of standards, specifications, etc. When products are manufactured in accordance with them and correspond to them ...

    This is the same as advocating that only cars developed in the design bureau of our country and made entirely of our parts should move on Russian roads.
    Or the same thing about TVs - only ours ...

    Electronic voting. I know many employees at work who participated in election commissions. Recently, they even passed tests or an exam. Small, but a penny went to the family budget. In the upcoming elections, about 90% of them refused to participate in commissions. There is one reason - coronovirus. We have a peak in the province, however ... Fear will be infected. The expected heat and sitting in rooms without an air conditioner in masks and gloves is almost two shifts .... They all just dream and talk about voting remotely ... And then only the civil position of each person ...

    My relatives and I will go to the polling station and vote for amendments to the Constitution.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 28 New
      0
      Quote: AsmyppoL
      Too many emotions and often off topic ....

      this is a cover (manipulation)
  • Fungus
    Fungus 14 June 2020 06: 00 New
    +4
    It's time to change the constitution written by the Western bourgeoisie. And now the time has come. I am glad.
    1. Lebed
      Lebed 14 June 2020 06: 20 New
      +6
      It's time to change the constitution written by the Western bourgeoisie. And now the time has come. I am glad

      Now do you want a constitution written by local bourgeois, disciples of the western? laughing
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 14 June 2020 13: 29 New
        -1
        Quote: Lebed
        Now you want a constitution written by local bourgeois,

        of course! it won’t be worse !!!!
    2. aglet
      aglet 14 June 2020 13: 47 New
      +4
      "It is high time to change the constitution written by the Western bourgeoisie. And now the time has come. I am glad."
      yes, it’s time to change it to the one written by patriotic bourgeois. and then somehow it turns out unknowingly, there are bourgeois, but the constitution is not written for them
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 14 June 2020 06: 08 New
    -6
    What is it they want to stir up that popular approval is needed? It’s scary to imagine even.

    That's for sure. Scary, because it is incomprehensible.
    1. Russian jacket
      Russian jacket 14 June 2020 06: 15 New
      -5
      Fear of change is something that both sides play on. Instead of issuing not emotional remarks, but analyzing the fact.
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 06: 18 New
      +1
      We'll all die someday
      ... Scary ... well, Roman ... brought the people to panic fear.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 14 June 2020 06: 20 New
        -2
        It's not about death. We will die. But our children and grandchildren live in this country with a new constitution in a new empire.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 06: 44 New
          +9
          Everything is so ... but just as thought
          and our ancestors said ... of course one must strive for excellence.
        2. Rozz
          Rozz 14 June 2020 11: 06 New
          +4
          For children, for grandchildren ... However, a tear does not break through ..
          For a red word and for cheap popularity these words?
      2. LeonidL
        LeonidL 14 June 2020 06: 47 New
        12
        He is not alone - this is what is called the information war! Majesty, eloquence without specificity ... Do not be afraid, a very limited circle of people reads, half are not assigned to Russia, they are not frightening everyone.
        1. Pas7
          Pas7 14 June 2020 09: 01 New
          +9
          The war we see here. Barin said to scold the amendments and they immediately wow-wow.
          Barin across the ocean every cent controls
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 06: 11 New
    -8
    Do you want a new constitution? Receive and sign!
    Yes, they did, but NEW!
    1. Roxx7
      Roxx7 14 June 2020 11: 23 New
      +7
      New will be soon in your America.
      Senators and the president are only Afro-Americans. Compensation for every Negro - a million bucks
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 11: 58 New
        -8
        Quote: RoXX7
        New will be soon in your America.

        Roma, in your, your America, America Rum Posner and Bulk. negative And Russia, this shit is already full. request
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 14 June 2020 06: 30 New
    0
    If you don’t want the Yeltsin Constitution, vote for a new one. I, however, belong to these things on a daily basis. I lived under the Stalinist Constitution, and under Brezhnev’s, and Yeltsin’s, too. I live for the first two. This is what should be, probably the essence of our life is located. If you look at the article of the current Constitution on national currency, then there is such pathos, even tears welling out. But after all, pennies were left only in sales receipts.
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 14 June 2020 07: 31 New
      -3
      Quote: nikvic46
      .I lived under the Stalin Constitution, and under Brezhnev and Yeltsin, too, I still live. The first two were invisible to me

      This is where the Soviet power suited me. They did it so that I had no reason to notice it, did not put a spoke in the wheels, did not tighten the screws and did not leave people to their fate, explaining this with good intentions and the intrigues of the enemy, as ours does. "scout",
    2. aglet
      aglet 14 June 2020 14: 24 New
      +1
      we are not offered a new constitution. we are offered amendments to the old one, and it is unknown who makes these amendments, moreover, all the amendments in one package. I read some amendments, but they are written in very oak language, if you wish, you can interpret them as you like. but it’s not a matter of just wondering if there is a person here who has read all of them, compared them with the articles of the current constitution, analyzed the results and said yes, I read everything, compared and understood, and I will vote for amendments the right thing! and I urge everyone to this! is there such a person? respond. it was enough for me that I read that children are the main wealth of the Russian Federation. not parents, not family-states. I have enough of this, I repeat, to make a decision. 400 amendments written in the office, many at the level of good wishes, because the state has neither the strength nor the influence abroad to guarantee the implementation of these articles, but what is abroad, and inside some current articles at the dream level, and in regions (especially national ones) do not work, or come with a terrible creak, why do you think that the new ones will work? So, it will, if there is, the same Yeltsin’s constitution, with Putin’s patches and then, possibly 2020, and further, in order. this is for those who wish https://www.znak.com/2030-2020-01/putin_minimum_trizhdy_obechal_ni_pri_kakih_obstoyatelstvah_ne_menyat_konstituciyu
  • LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 June 2020 06: 44 New
    +3
    Another cry-meaningless little article. Nobody holds the author’s mister for the folds like anyone else - they don’t like amendments, vote against. But if you write an article that is clearly critical, and you don’t like everything from milk to Putin, it makes sense to write clearly what you don’t like and why in the amendments, what you want to add and why. And so the porridge spreads over the saucer.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 14 June 2020 07: 10 New
      -2
      Quote: LeonidL
      it makes sense to write clearly what you don’t like and why in the amendments, what you want to add and why.
      And what is there to write something? All these purely populist amendments simply create a beautiful screen for the main amendment - the zeroing of the terms of Putin, who thus plans to stay in power for life. This completely negates the democratic principle of the need for constant change of power and his own words about "will not cling to power and change the constitution."
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 14 June 2020 15: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: LeonidL
        it makes sense to write clearly what you don’t like and why in the amendments, what you want to add and why.
        And what is there to write? All these purely populist amendments are simply create a beautiful screen for the main amendment - zeroing Putin’s terms, who thus plans to remain in power for life. This completely negates the democratic principle of the need for constant change of power and his own words about "will not cling to power and change the constitution."

        Look wider.
        The main amendment is the creation of a new authority, the State Council. With vague powers and the principle of formation.
        Perhaps it is under his future head (guess who?) That the terms of the "future president" are limited and the powers of the "branches of power" are redistributed.
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 14 June 2020 07: 43 New
      14
      Quote: LeonidL
      But if you write an article that is clearly critical, and you don’t like everything from milk to Putin, then it makes sense to write clearly what you don’t like and why in the amendments


      so it is necessary to give reasonable arguments and this is difficult, especially when they are not. It is easier to flop on the floor like a small child and whine, "I don't want to, bad, vote against."
      1. aglet
        aglet 14 June 2020 14: 45 New
        0
        "so it is necessary to give reasonable arguments and it is difficult, especially when they are not."
        Do you have reasonable arguments for all 400 amendments? bring them, if any. and so you sit on the floor in the same way and whine - she is good, vote for her
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 14 June 2020 11: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: LeonidL
      it makes sense to write clearly what you don’t like and why in the amendments, what you want to add and why.


      If you ustravaetsya EBN and its course, your right. Only EBN in comparison with GDP kid on the part of "state building"
  • arlekin
    arlekin 14 June 2020 06: 49 New
    -3
    "If I thought that a totalitarian or authoritarian system is most preferable for us, then I would simply change the Constitution. As you understand, it was easy to do. It does not even require any nationwide vote, it was enough to pass this decision in parliament, where we (the United Russia party) had more than 300 votes. " Putin. year 2012.
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 14 June 2020 06: 52 New
    -6
    We have failed to create a just society. Man is not worthy yet. So after the USSR, all this is tinsel. Eat each other - climb up with bloody elbows ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 07: 37 New
      11
      Horror ... painted.
    2. swetlana1
      swetlana1 14 June 2020 11: 44 New
      +3
      Of course you prosrali and our Russia no longer lies in front of you, but stands with a sword in his hands
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 14 June 2020 06: 53 New
    15
    He began to read the article and guessed the author in three paragraphs.
    1. Cruorvult
      Cruorvult 14 June 2020 09: 08 New
      +6
      pfff, nubas, I understood from the title whose "masterpiece" it is.
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 14 June 2020 09: 50 New
        +8
        Quote: CruorVult
        I understood from the title

        "By the title" I had suspicions, but when I started reading I was confident.
    2. aglet
      aglet 14 June 2020 14: 47 New
      +1
      "I started reading the article and after three paragraphs I guessed the author."
      and what did he write about, understand?
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 14 June 2020 06: 57 New
    13
    Read the article and comments. I remembered a quote from Demyan Bedny, which my beloved late mother-in-law loved to repeat. "You criticize the Soviet government, your criticism is of no use to us." But seriously. The history of the reworking of the constitution is a bad sign, it means that the leader is getting old. Leonid Ilyich at first ruled quite reasonably. Kosygin's reforms bore fruit, there was a detente, at least for a while. Everything was tolerable in the shops, at least in those cities where I visited. But Ilyich grew old and wanted to immortalize himself with the constitution. So it is now. It is sad. But there is nothing to do, old age has its own quirks. I know from myself.
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 14 June 2020 07: 54 New
      10
      Quote: mikh-korsakov
      A constitutional redo story is a bad sign


      for those who want to ruin and sell Russia in parts, a very bad sign.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 14 June 2020 08: 12 New
        +8
        rr You are right, if I understood your comment correctly, that liberals of all stripes and representatives of "pigs against" who joined them in our country and abroad, united in their malice and innuendo, want to fail the vote. I'm right about that. that the posing of the question of changing the constitution in the face of a rabid anti-Russian, and if not anti-popular, because Putin was elected by the people, anti-Putin hysteria, is untimely. In the face of a sudden sharp drop in living standards due to the virus, the risk of voting failure is high. And this will cause such consequences that 92 will seem good. For they will choose the one for which our and foreign sponsors will give more money. Is the story with Grudinin evidence-based?
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 14 June 2020 11: 55 New
      +6
      The decision on the new Constitution was made under Khrushchev. But the development process dragged on for almost 15 years. And to be honest, recently, despite sympathy for the ideas of socialism, I have come to the conclusion that the 1993 Constitution is a much more elaborated document compared to the Soviet Constitutions. Yes, the huge powers of the President, but they are honestly spelled out. Do we find any mention in the Soviet Constitutions of the Secretary General of the Central Committee, of the Politburo of the Central Committee, of the Plenum of the Central Committee of the party, that is, of those bodies and structures that really controlled us?
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 14 June 2020 16: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Do we find in the Soviet Constitutions any mention of the Secretary General of the Central Committee, of the Politburo of the Central Committee, of the Plenum of the Central Committee of the party, that is, of those bodies and structures that really controlled us?

        But yak! fellow
        Here you are.
        Constitution of the USSR 1977 year.

        Article 6. The guiding and guiding force of the Soviet
        society, the core of its political system, state and
        public organizations is the Communist Party
        Soviet Union
        . The CPSU exists for the people and serves the people.

        Since the CPSU is "leading and directing", then its "bodies" are also managers.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 14 June 2020 16: 28 New
          +1
          Only common words, without any specifics. And until 1977, even this was not.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 14 June 2020 06: 57 New
    +5
    I would like to ask: where are they, these hosts .........., who want to ruin your Power?

    You see them every day, and more than once ...
    I’d like the milk package to have a guaranteed capacity: liter. Like before. And now there may be as many as you like. From 830 to 1000 grams.

    Does the milk carton contain as much product as is written on the carton? Then what's the problem? Moreover, on the price tag in your photo there is also a given price per kilogram. It's not at all clear why this "sketch"? You say the laws don't work for us? Probably yes ... Otherwise, you would be invited to the local branch of the UK and politely asked:
    Already in Moscow, dozens of cases of “recommendations” to public sector employees began to vote remotely / online on mos.ru. Naturally, “for” the amendments and in some places with the subsequent provision of confirmation of the “correct” vote. A wave of complaints and indignation has already begun.
    First of all, it began in educational institutions, but municipal service enterprises have already gone into business.
    Yours? Please provide specific examples of complaints of people with names and addresses that have become known to you. After all, these are facts about the presence of corpus delicti on the part of certain officials. Otherwise, sign the resolution to initiate an UD against you ..... Then you will start writing in a public space truthfully and reasonably. And today it is not entirely clear from what considerations you are trying to introduce into the reader's brain the myths about someone's demands for confirmation of the "correct vote", born, obviously, at other people's funds, but profitable for those "hosts ...." I fully agree that you can have a negative attitude towards the work of the government, or its individual representatives. We still have the right and the opportunity to express our opinion in the public space (if VO does not cut it out again). But why direct "shadows on the fence"?
    It is clear that the main one is the 81st article of the old Constitution, that is, zeroing. But the election is not tomorrow.

    We got to the main. Do you care about zeroing? And why? Yes, because you know that your point of view is not supported by that peoplewhom you want to convince to boycott this vote. So "our supposedly friends who have sat behind the hill" also want the same ... Coincidence? Not sure...
    1. Uran53
      Uran53 14 June 2020 07: 42 New
      -4
      I’m from a provincial hole and our state employees also vote as the leadership should, because it’s like, literally, to be left without a job. And if the UK would like to understand this issue, what would it hinder him to conduct an anonymous survey among employees of municipalities? But why should the prosecutor’s office write against the wind, they’re so good. And a tip: take off your pink glasses and ride away from the Garden Ring at least 100 kilometers in any direction
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 14 June 2020 07: 55 New
        10
        I always love to read this) but can I ask, how does the leadership control how people vote?) such a leader came out and said that everyone would vote as I said. let’s lower the nuance that having written this on the phone to the head, he will fly so that there will be little if you put it on the network. Imagine that he does not care. so he ordered, and then what? walks home and watches how someone puts an online tick? goes into the booths to personally verify that you have followed his instructions?) who gives instructions without the ability to monitor their implementation? )))
        1. stylet
          stylet 17 June 2020 13: 04 New
          0
          You are right, voting is anonymous
      2. cavl
        cavl 14 June 2020 08: 36 New
        11
        Are you from a provincial hole? In the sense of the United States? Do you think we have bears walking in the center of the city, all drunk people swaying around, and the ballots with a tick show before stuffing bosses?
      3. Hagen
        Hagen 14 June 2020 09: 03 New
        12
        Quote: Uran53
        our state employees also vote as the leadership should, because to remain without a job of death is like, literally.

        And how do superiors get information about your vote?
        Quote: Uran53
        And if the UK would like to understand this issue

        SC will be disassembled if there are reasons for a showdown. You complain (reasoned) - SK understands ... You are silent and resign yourself to how you are being manipulated - SK is also inactive, because there is no reason to stand up for your defense without your appeal.
        Quote: Uran53
        But why should the prosecutor write against the wind

        Who, interestingly, acts as a wind for your prosecutor's office?
        Quote: Uran53
        And a tip: take off your pink glasses and ride away from the Garden Ring at least 100 kilometers in any direction

        Do you advise me this? laughing I have 3000 km to the Moscow Ring Road. Let me give you advice: do not be afraid of your own shadow ...
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 14 June 2020 11: 10 New
          -1
          Quote: Hagen
          And how do superiors get information about your vote?

          simple - newsletter photo
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 14 June 2020 12: 21 New
            0
            about how. that is, a person will consciously pick up a punishment proof of coercion to vote?) are you serious?) one of the collective will take it off and his career will end. I understand the turnout to provide. it’s possible, but here's what to vote for, and even photos to put it big-top, sorry. There are simpler ways to become famous all over the country and lose your job.
            1. would
              would 16 June 2020 03: 42 New
              0
              It is sincerely funny to read your idyllic comments. And here is an example from harsh reality - when soldiers elected in Khabarovsk and the governor voted (citizens of the country all the same). And together with them, their commander went into the booth for a secret (!!!) vote and watched the unconscious soldier put a daw where necessary, and in some cases openly photographed their form in the booth. This has been repeatedly recorded and published, the LDPR officially announced this. The check was carried out ... with two times guess its results?
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 16 June 2020 06: 15 New
                0
                I myself was from Khabarovsk and more than once I voted on the personnel. No one went anywhere. It seems that we have nothing to do. If this happened this is an isolated case. You can’t keep track of everyone. But do not consider this a system. This is not true
                1. would
                  would 16 June 2020 07: 10 New
                  +1
                  So who is talking personally about you or about your treble?

                  If this happened this is an isolated case


                  It was not fixed individually. That is, it was a system. Which in particular is confirmed by the use of not a smartphone, but a serious and large camera in one of the cases. Even in the network there were materials in the truth of which one can doubt, but which completely fit into what is happening.



                  So all the same, guessed what the results of the audit were? Is the end of the career of captured faces?
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 16 June 2020 08: 25 New
                    -1
                    It's not at all what HF. business in the sense of what is happening. All the times in which I personally took part, everyone around wanted only one thing - that this would quickly end as an extra headache. And even a hint of something to force someone to do. The officer circle is quite narrow and I have never heard that someone would be ordered to do this. But I do not exclude the option that someone can offer someone financial support for such actions. Let your vote and we will pay you for it. It’s possible. I didn’t meet with an order from above, I didn’t hear, and there weren’t even rumors. As for the punishment, I don’t see that someone is forcing someone to vote for a certain candidate. As you cannot see this
                    1. would
                      would 16 June 2020 08: 35 New
                      +1
                      Just the same thing is what treble. Because one treble can differ absolutely from another. For example, I also took part in a similar one and an FSB officer was sitting on our site and he did not hide the fact that he received an order to prevent fraud in this area. Well, this does not affect other HF and other areas.

                      As for the punishment, I don’t see that someone is forcing someone to vote for a certain candidate.


                      Here I also hint at it. Here you are writing in response to the newsletter photo

                      "Oh how. That is, the person will knowingly take in his hands the proof of compulsion to vote punishable?) Are you serious?)"

                      Well, take it. And how does this prove that he was forcing someone to something? No way. This is just a photo that for some reason was given to an employee, he himself will say that he has no idea why he was given this photo and in general he did not really look at it. Even the statement of the victim is not enough, it will be unproven. There is only audio fixation where a specific employee will say this very clearly. And then try to lower the brakes ...

                      In this case, according to the results of the inspection, no violations were revealed, the soldiers who still did not expect to write statements for their commanders, and the supervisory authorities explained the photos very simply - the military simply took pictures of each other. And no one lost his job.
                      1. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 16 June 2020 09: 33 New
                        -1
                        You confuse my words a little. If I take it off and give it back and if he takes it off it’s different situations. He can say that he took a pancake out of love for art and go prove that it is not. Even if a soldier speaks about coercion, his word is against the word of the person taking it off. Taking my photos, plus my testimony, is already evidence.
                      2. would
                        would 16 June 2020 10: 55 New
                        +1
                        Taking my photos, plus my testimony, is already evidence.


                        Nothing like this. This will explain to you. any an investigator or just a person who is familiar with the proof as such. The only option is if the citizen himself admits and tells everything himself. And if there is “I don’t know why they gave me, to be honest, I didn’t look, I don’t know anything,” then there will be an unequivocal refusal to initiate UD.

                        By the way, this is not only a matter of criminal law, it often occurs in civil law in courts. I met myself

                        Did you receive this document? No, I didn’t.
                        Have you been to this institution? You know, I often go to work there.
                        Why does the plaintiff claim that you took the document? I do not know
                        What do you have to do with ....? Nothing, I learned about everything just before the meeting.
                        Do you work in ....? Worked, but quit.
                        Are you currently working in the same organization? Now yes.

                        In short, the witness was lying like he could.

                        Court decision - the facts claimed by the plaintiff are not proven, the plaintiff did not prove the fact of receiving the document, as well as the fact of the work of this witness in the period from to. All.
        2. Hagen
          Hagen 14 June 2020 12: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: Silvestr
          simple - newsletter photo

          Do you have that? You tell me the number of your hospital, but at the same time the phone number to which you reset the reports ... We will remotely remind you if we have nobody ... wassat
        3. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 14 June 2020 16: 07 New
          +2
          This is completely stupidity, then the boss is a finished stupid person. And if subordinates do this, then they are also cowardly and finished. Even the bosses are well aware that in the era of the Internet and social networks, the publication of such instructions will mean the end of a career. And the superior for such eccentrics also will not intervene. Now people are not stupid, many subordinates go to various meetings with voice recorders and record what management says. So, just in case.)

          PS And if a person photographs someone else's ballot in collusion with another voter? Or after photographing, it will immediately ruin or take it away with you?
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 14 June 2020 16: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Sergej1972
            This is completely stupidity, then the boss is a finished stupid person.

            I think this chatter about the photo of the ballots is a fiction for the "catchphrase". We must somehow “mark” the territory around us.
        4. stylet
          stylet 17 June 2020 13: 05 New
          0
          photoshop to help
    2. BigBoss
      BigBoss 14 June 2020 09: 40 New
      13
      I’m wondering how management checks how state employees vote? The vote is secret. You go into the booth, check the box and throw the completed ballot paper into the ballot box. Who will find out later, who voted and how? The boss, what checks each ballot paper with a state employee before the state employee puts it in the ballot box? fool Even if the boss gave such an order, he does not hold the budget employee by the hand when voting.
      1. aglet
        aglet 14 June 2020 15: 00 New
        +1
        “I’m wondering how the management checks how the state employees vote?
        before the vote, the votes of state employees and perplexed workers were conditionally counted "for", with the sum of such votes, and the desired 103% should be obtained. but in fact, it turned out -23%. that is, the charged voters voted against. this is where the distribution of elephants begins, with the deprivation of prizes and other snacks. This method is very well worked out by teachers in schools
        1. Uran53
          Uran53 15 June 2020 06: 54 New
          0
          Here I am about the same! Thank you for explaining to these democrats and free people how elections are being held in the outback.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 June 2020 14: 48 New
      -1
      Finish combing already.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 08: 35 New
    -3
    Quote: Hagen
    Moreover, the price tag per kilogram is also present on the price tag in your photo.

    And so they deceive. 930 there, wipe the glasses.
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 14 June 2020 08: 54 New
      +9
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      And so they deceive. 930 there, wipe the glasses.

      Where is "there"? On a bag or on a scale? If the weight of the content is less than what is written on the package, then send a claim to the RPN. What is the difficulty? There is a checkweigher in every store ... How else can you cheat? I don't quite understand you ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 09: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Hagen
        How else can you be deceived? I do not quite understand you ...

        So that I offhand see a liter, or one and a half, for example. But in fact - there is either 930 or 1,350. Hesitated labels to study. What is the calculation. And they can also write on the price tag the price for one hundred grams, wait a minute, calculate how much the product actually costs.
        1. ViKLeV
          ViKLeV 14 June 2020 09: 16 New
          +2
          And the conclusion: Putin is to blame
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 09: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: ViKLeV
            And the conclusion: Putin is to blame

            And in what ways did you come to this conclusion?
        2. Hagen
          Hagen 14 June 2020 10: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          And they can also write on the price tag the price for one hundred grams, wait a minute, calculate how much the product actually costs.

          You have the phone at hand, for sure. What is the difficulty?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 10: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Hagen
            What is the difficulty?

            The fact that going to the store resembles a mathematical puzzle with an unknown result, as a rule, you leave more money there.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 14 June 2020 10: 56 New
              +7
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              going to the store resembles a mathematical puzzle with an unknown result, as a rule, you leave more money there.

              When you know what you want to buy, you do not overpay. And when you go into the same Okey without a pre-thought out plan, and even on an empty stomach, the purchase price depends on the depth of the stroller laughing , and after all that is characteristic, everything is necessary. laughing As they say smart - on the market there are two duraka - one sells, the other buys. This has always been the case with both white and red. What does this have to do with constitutional amendments, I don’t understand ...
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 11: 09 New
                -2
                Quote: Hagen
                When you know what you want to buy, you do not overpay.

                I write about the same as the author. Liters have turned into milliliters, kilograms - into grams. Like an anecdote on advertising "how much to hang in grams?"
                - Count me 42 cherries.
                - Are you from the sausage department? We have a crazy seller there.
                Already not funny.
      2. aglet
        aglet 14 June 2020 15: 02 New
        0
        "Where is that 'there'? On a package or on a scale?"
        Do you often weigh packages of milk? but at least with rice or buckwheat?
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 07: 00 New
    -3
    I would like to ask: where are these host of buggers, wanting to break up your Power?
    They are around us, everywhere. In the government, the Duma, government committees, commissions, advisory councils, in the directorates of independent and conscientious SMRAD (mass media, agitation and misinformation).
    1. Developers of the history of the USSR
    2. creators of juvenile laws, protecting children from parents
    3. Human rights.
    4. Congress of intellectuals.
    5. their name is Legion, chop not chop. request
    1. Uran53
      Uran53 14 June 2020 07: 28 New
      -9
      These are just the amendments that never hit anyone, as they themselves rewrote the constitution
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 14 June 2020 08: 09 New
        +7
        These are just the amendments that never hit anyone, as they themselves rewrote the constitution
        .... Bees, against honey ... laughing
      2. flicker
        flicker 14 June 2020 08: 13 New
        11
        it’s just the amendments that never hit me,
        they are just amendments and hurt.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 07: 02 New
    19
    Eh, Roman ... Have you decided again to “touch” society?
    Everything is written from the heart, everything is illustrated by examples. There is not only one paragraph where the motivation of all these amendments adopted by law would be indicated. The fear of staying “not in power” pushed all this tribe of leaders and managers to change the constitution only because when a new “guarantee obligation” was adopted, it would be necessary to arrange new elections at all levels. But what about? You can’t remain the guarantor of what is no longer ...
    So they carry their aspirations through the actors, the media, and the officials to the “fooled masses”. But do we need to step on the rake again, once again believe in the bright tomorrow, when in the hateful "today" it is already clear that it is difficult to milk milk from an old goat?
    Therefore, prescribe a rich life in the Constitution or not - it will come only when the laws begin to work.

    Therefore, therefore, and therefore to expect the benefits of the constitution in a state built on capitalist backlogs is a waste of time.
    It would be nice for all “FOR” agitators to give an example from their personal lives, like “without flexing your back”, “like sweating your face”, “like being malnourished and not getting enough sleep” ... Like, having once promised two “Volga” vouchers each came to the conclusion that infantile Russian society is obliged to say "thank you" to Russian business.
    We apologize generously for not being able to go to GB and personally express gratitude.
    I’ll also go to vote if they don’t cancel, otherwise:

    and I will vote against.
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  • savage1976
    savage1976 14 June 2020 07: 06 New
    -6
    It's funny that so many screams were about the need to change the Constitution and now it is changing, but now the same people are shouting about the inviolability of the constitution, not the changes, the voting will not take place at the wrong time, and apparently the changes were initiated by the wrong people. So why on the sofas butt creases! Go to the polls, go to power, become deputies, presidents, ministers, establish life in the country. But on sofas is better.)))

    "Then I have a question: what the devil are you sitting here and being clever? You have been given life once? Go to work! You are not interested in the tricks that get up in the Kremlin? Go to work! You do not want to waste time on me (you want, otherwise it would be would have already dumped from the site)? Go and work!
    You have everything for this. You will have everything. The main thing is to work! "Banshee.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 07: 57 New
      +2
      And you forgive me for the indiscreet question why hang around here? Why not at work plowing sweat? smile
      1. savage1976
        savage1976 14 June 2020 08: 24 New
        -5
        And firstly, everything suits me in the first place in my life, secondly, there is an understanding that not only life wants to change, thirdly, I am well aware that the changes must be slow, gradual and verified, and then they will be long-lasting, and sharp throwing will lead to the collapse of everything society. And that’s exactly how I see the planned changes to the Constitution, calibrated, neat and gradual.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 08: 29 New
          -1
          If all the citizens of Russia were happy with life, how happy you would be in our society ... but alas, not everyone lives like you. hi
          1. savage1976
            savage1976 14 June 2020 08: 51 New
            +4
            And universal happiness will never come. One hair is not of the same color, the other is not tall, the third member is small, the fourth has breasts, someone has no children, and so on to infinity. How will you make everyone happy? No way. Life is a struggle, it was, is and will be. There will be happy, unhappy, rich and poor, healthy and sick.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 10: 06 New
              0
              Quote: savage1976
              And universal happiness will never come.

              And we do not strive for common happiness, and not for the “happiness” of Russian billionaires and millionaires, but for the well-being of most citizens, in a system of social relations, when everyone receives according to the results of their creative work, and not according to the principle of proximity to the feeding trough and level and permissibility use the speculation mechanism.
              Quote: savage1976
              One hair is not the same color, the other is not tall, the third member is small, the fourth has breasts, someone has no children, and so on to infinity.

              You do not get hung up on physiological features. Simply put, some are speculators, others are “hunchbacked and create” for pennies.
              Quote: savage1976
              Life is a struggle, it was, is and will be.

              Life is really a struggle, not a devouring of the weak. Life in human society is not life in the jungle.
              Quote: savage1976
              There will be happy, unhappy, rich and poor, healthy and sick.

              You forgot to add that there will be poor working people, because their salaries are handouts. There will be disenfranchised pensioners who were forced to work to death, while forgetting to lift the moratorium on indexing beggarly pensions to working pensioners. There will be rich people who, in a pandemic, will make billions in fortunes and poison nature due to their own greed. There will be patients who are compelled by the compassionate population to receive treatment with SMS, and those who simply have nowhere to be treated, and there will be healthy people who have made insurance medicine in the country, and go abroad to get treatment and rest ...
              As a result of such a struggle, the Russian population simply began to die out, because three deer in the forest for a hundred wolves were no longer enough.
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 14 June 2020 10: 52 New
                -2
                There are not only physiological moments, happiness for everyone is a very different concept. And in your world there will be patients who will not even be allowed to sms, because they will be banned from talking about them, millions of political prisoners will work for free, anonymous letters will become fashionable again, well-fitted sneaks for handouts, there will be hidden accidents , because they will be banned from reporting and there will again be a shortage of goods of all categories, there will again be blat, back door, trade from under the floor and as a result of which you will have nothing but general poverty. So it was already, only a few history does not teach anything. And Russia and the USSR as a whole began to die out much earlier than it fell apart. There aren’t enough deer at all.
                1. AU Ivanov.
                  AU Ivanov. 14 June 2020 12: 27 New
                  -8
                  Plus, the very discussions on the Internet will be covered. We will, like in the good old days, go to the kitchens. Expressing their approval in public, turning into a stormy prolonged ovation.
                  1. savage1976
                    savage1976 14 June 2020 12: 59 New
                    +1
                    It is for this reason that the Platoshkin program, although it contains many interesting and good points, is fundamentally unacceptable to me just because of one point that introduces the supremacy of one single party and the prohibition of others into the Constitution. This is a regression of development.
                2. depressant
                  depressant 14 June 2020 13: 20 New
                  +5
                  I sometimes ponder what Putin's weakness is, and my conclusion is not at all that he owes his appointment to someone and is forced to work it out to the end by "zeroing". And not that he surrounded himself with "friends" who are worthless, but occupy important government posts. Even under these conditions, much can be done. Putin's weakness lies in the fact that he does not complete the good deed he has begun. He's not picky. He is not able to induce decisive actions in their "worthless", which would force them to leave on their own due to the impossibility of proper execution. Or he does not see the consequences of his actions.
                  For example, Crimea. Why is the flooding of Crimea not included in the list of national projects? Watering would not lead to new sanctions. It turns out they’ve attached, and so will it? Will not do!
                  Or another example. I really respect Andrei Removich Belousov, the author of national projects and our current vice-premier, but the infrastructure project in Siberia should be implemented only in conjunction with the creation of a number of industrial enterprises along the Trans-Siberian Railway. Otherwise, trains will transport exclusively Chinese consumer goods through us to Europe, along the way supplying them with adjacent territories and thereby killing the development of our light industry there. That is, it was necessary to think over everything in a complex. And so with Putin in everything. He took the solution of problems solely on himself, not trusting this business, including small and medium-sized businesses. Perhaps, based on the fact that such enterprises around the world began to systematically destroy. And no matter for what reason. But we are in a different situation, we have left the Soviet system, we are only learning capitalism. Small and medium business is a school of new economic relations for us! But no, everything is in the pen. So it was and will be in the future. A complete rejection of assistants to the new economic formation. So the transition to socialism is outlined? I do not see the prerequisites, except for the support of the general population. Especially in conditions of complete submission to IMF policy. But you cannot build socialism with the IMF. Contradictions, understatement, incompleteness of the begun affairs. Political unfinished. This is annoying.
                  1. savage1976
                    savage1976 14 June 2020 14: 18 New
                    +2
                    Well, to rule the country, do not toss the bags. A lot of nuances, vectors, difficulties. Here, many with his wife can’t fix life, but agree on the life of 146 million people, and even have no fun with 7 billion others. In some ways, Putin is acting right, in something not. Comrade Stalin was also going to beat the enemy on his territory, but for some reason 3 years had to be beaten on his own. Was Comrade Stalin a stupid man? Hardly, just against him, too, were not stupid people. The main thing is that Victory remained with Comrade Stalin and the people of the USSR.
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 14 June 2020 13: 56 New
              -1
              Quote: savage1976
              And universal happinesse never comes. One hair is not the same color, the other is not tall, the third member is small, the fourth has breasts, someone has no children, and so on to infinity. Life is a struggle, it was, is and will be. Will be happy, unhappy, rich and poor, healthy and sick.

              Exactly!
              Quote: savage1976
              How to make everyone happy

              So, here it is just simple:

              Every woman is a man!
              Each man, two women!
              To each child, for candy!
              To everyone who disagrees, in the face!

              And everything is OK!yes (joke if that)
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 14 June 2020 14: 20 New
                0
                You are not joking like that, otherwise many will accept the party’s program and direction of activity. Men for all the women are not enough. Do not prompt in general.))))
    2. Lyuba1965_01
      Lyuba1965_01 14 June 2020 20: 21 New
      -1
      Show me in the State Duma at least one simple hard worker. They are not there because no one will let them go there, even if the people choose them. So, alas, with all the desire, a simple person will not get there and will not be able to work there for the good of the country. Well, for whose benefit do different entrepreneurs, artists, athletes work there - I think, understandably and without explanation.
      1. savage1976
        savage1976 15 June 2020 01: 52 New
        +1
        And show at least one simple hard worker among the cosmonauts of the USSR. And among the doctors, show a simple hard worker? There are no such. It’s strange, because after all, the road is open to workers. So maybe this is because when you become an astronaut, a change of profession occurs and you are no longer just working for, but an astronaut or a doctor. So in the Duma you are no longer a simple hard worker, but a deputy.
        1. Lyuba1965_01
          Lyuba1965_01 15 June 2020 11: 51 New
          -1
          Yes, the astronaut will be elected. But will they choose a hard worker before he becomes an astronaut? Will they choose a doctor? Which one? A simple district or head doctor? Here, as they say, the difference is very big. But, even if they choose a local doctor. then he will make decisions of his party, party discipline, so to speak. And he will not trample against it: who wants to change the sinecure to the usual not so well-paid job?
          1. savage1976
            savage1976 15 June 2020 13: 17 New
            +1
            Then what are the claims to the deputies? Then if you please claim to the parties and to all ordinary people that by becoming deputies they betray the interests of ordinary people. What is it, maybe upbringing, or maybe society? Or is necessity and life so arranged?
            Deputies State. Duma of the last convocation:
            Ivan Loor - From 1974 to 1976, he served in the Soviet Army. In 1976, he began working as a tractor driver at the Plotnikovsky state farm of the Kamensky district. In 1979, Ivan Loor received the specialty of an agronomist-organizer, and in the same year he was appointed manager of the Ob branch of the Plotnikovsky state farm, and in November 1982 he was invited as director of the Transmashevsky state farm of the same name plant. From October 1986 to April 1997, Loor led the Plotnikovsky state farm [2]. What is not a collective farmer?
            Vladimir Lazarevich Yevlanov-In 1967 he received a secondary technical education with a degree in Electrical Engineering of Electrical Equipment, and graduated from the Kuibyshev Aviation College in the year. In 1967, he was called up for military service in the Soviet Army, was demobilized in 1969. From 1969 to 1972 he worked on the ships of the fleet of the ocean fishing base in Sakhalin as an assistant captain and electrician. What is not a worker?
            Vitaly Borisovich Efimov-Born on April 4, 1940 at the Krasnaya Zarya state farm (now CJSC Malino, located in the village of Bereznetsovo, Stupinsky District [3]), Moscow Region [4]. In 1957-1959 he worked at the Sergach MTS (apprentice locksmith, locksmith 3rd grade) [4] [5].

            In 1964 he graduated from the Gorky Agricultural Institute with a degree in mechanical engineering [4]. In 1964-1986 he worked in Gorky: he headed the repair shops of the Novinki school of education at the Gorky Agricultural Institute (1964-1968), was the chief engineer of motor convoy No. 1303 (1968-1976; since 1973 - PO of freight transport No. 8), chief engineer, then - Head of the Volga-Vyatka Transport Administration (1976-1983), head of the Gorky Territorial Association of Freight Motor Transport (1983-1986) [4] [5]. In 1967 he joined the Communist Party [6]. What is not a communist from the work environment?
            So are they, immigrants from the Aboche-peasant class accepting bad laws? So are they traitors to the interests of the working-peasant class? So where then are not the traitors? Once all becoming deputies suddenly become traitors? You can go through all the deputies, they all started almost from the bottom and with their own labor made their careers, and they would thump and scream that the authorities didn’t give me, I would then ........ There are a lot of people, but they all have to arrange their own lives they can’t, not so much as arranging someone else’s.
            1. Lyuba1965_01
              Lyuba1965_01 16 June 2020 00: 03 New
              -1
              We started from the bottom, made a career, became deputies. However, these former workers accepted the PRN yes a. I had in mind a completely different thing: is there at least one person in the State Duma who would have gone to the deputies from the machine tool? Well, have you elected a worker, not a worker in the past, who made a career as a deputy? So that immediately from the machine tool - and to the deputies?
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 16 June 2020 01: 18 New
                0
                Once again, let's go over a new one. And workers become doctors from the machine? Well, he sharpened the workpiece on the machine, the team voted that he was now a doctor, put a working file and went to do heart surgery. Or launched into space. Why do we need to study, the main thing is that the pens are raised for you and let's go replace any specialties.
                1. Lyuba1965_01
                  Lyuba1965_01 16 June 2020 09: 09 New
                  0
                  During the Soviet era, our neighbor was elected a deputy several times in a row (then she herself refused this). She was the head of the worsted plant. I went to the session, returned - and again to work. She died about 10 years ago. Until the last day, some of those whom she helped when she was a deputy came to her. And what about modern deputies? They see life from the window of a personal car, they don’t visit their factories, well, there a couple of times a year there will be visitors and everything else for the rest of the session. Life changes very quickly, like the conditions of this life themselves. And what they know about it if they are sitting in their seats at a good salary? And they will vote for anything, if only they would not be thrown out of there. And before, those who were chosen from the machine tool still continued to work in their team, so they looked into the eyes of voters almost every day.
                  1. savage1976
                    savage1976 16 June 2020 12: 27 New
                    0
                    And how many bills has your neighbor prepared? Not at all, she just said "Yes" for the bills that the party showed her without even reading them. And then they are surprised that the country has collapsed.
                    1. aglet
                      aglet 16 June 2020 16: 36 New
                      0
                      the current deputies are doing exactly the same thing - the party ordered, and that's it. and such laws come up that there are doubts about their health
                    2. Lyuba1965_01
                      Lyuba1965_01 16 June 2020 16: 54 New
                      0
                      This neighbor helped people, and more specifically. She was a deputy in the Republican Council ... What laws did she adopt? Did the country fall apart? Yes, not from the laws, but from our stupidity and naivety.
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  • Uran53
    Uran53 14 June 2020 07: 26 New
    -8
    There is only one analogy regarding the "referendum" - everyone's favorite pension "reform". And if the PR was "recommended" by the IMF, then by whom? The darkest one is unlikely to be able to master two more terms due to his age, and the oligarchy will not give up its power anyway.
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  • parusnik
    parusnik 14 June 2020 07: 41 New
    10
    The story develops in a spiral. Once upon a time 115 years ago, when the upper classes could no longer, but the lower classes did not want, the lower classes, bam, and the highest manifesto in October about freedoms ... The people also split, some climbed the barricades, others shouted hurray and thanked for the freedoms .. It ended up that the guard arrived and dispersed everyone ... The same is now, the government decided to prevent a social explosion in the country by granting amendments to the Constitution, and so much that the eyes run up with happiness, like in an expensive supermarket, from a beautifully packed Give me some corrections and more, more ... Here, here ... here's the receipt, we don't accept the purchased goods back ... Everything will settle down, it will settle down, but the cherry will not be pricked up, the beets will not bloom and the chickens will not farrow ... All this is reminiscent of an episode from the film "Feast of St. Jorgen", when one rogue heals another: "Heal, club! Who are they talking to!" ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 14 June 2020 08: 01 New
      +3
      smile All will be cured ... time is needed.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 10: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: parusnik
      The same thing now, the authorities decided to prevent a social explosion in the country by granting amendments to the Constitution, and so many that, with happiness, eyes widen, like in an expensive supermarket, from beautifully packaged goods.

      good
      What about EBN? The HMS artificially created a production crisis and a shortage of goods, excluding some of them from the consumer basket, which led to a shortage of everyday products. The EBN clan removed this slobber, seducing people with loud songs, appeals, colorful overseas packages and cap money. countries. Many then had their eyes widen, and some still remained "cross-eyed."
      A social explosion with such an attitude towards the population, to its rights, is a real inevitability bordering on provocation.
      Essentially, the most common decisions that improve the situation of the population have not been and will not be accepted. I cannot recall a single law when people would say, this is the CORRECT DECISION! (I don’t mention the reunification of Crimea ... Although, so much time was spent on “show-offs” for European and overseas partners, and the solution to the problem of fresh water in Crimea rests on the blackmail of the Ukrainian authorities. For almost 6 years this issue could not be resolved?)
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 14 June 2020 12: 31 New
        +1
        The crisis of production, with washing out the already meager assortment of goods, happened even under Brezhnev. And it was not artificial - it is a natural flaw in the administrative - command system.
        1. Minato2020
          Minato2020 15 June 2020 06: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: AU Ivanov.

          The crisis of production, with washing out the already meager assortment of goods, happened even under Brezhnev. And it was not artificial - it is a natural flaw in the administrative - command system.


          The deficit in the USSR was created artificially by the administrative means of the Communist Party.

          Those living in the USSR during the tobacco shortage did not know that the absence of tobacco products was the result of the closure of 26 factories by the communist Yeltsin and were very upset (to say the least)))))

          Nikolai Ryzhkov, in 1985-1990. - Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, in the television program “USSR. The collapse of the empire ”(episode 7), shown on December 11, 2011 (NTV channel) tells how this tobacco famine was artificially created in the country:
          “Gorbachev calls me and says:“ Here’s Yeltsin, can’t you come to me? ”
          I've come. And I already knew what was going on. For several days almost riots took place.
          I say: “Mikhail Sergeyevich, why are you asking me?
          There is Boris Nikolaevich next to you, and ask him.
          Boris Nikolaevich, I may be mistaken, 28 tobacco factories.
          Of these, 26 were stopped for repair in one day. So what are you asking?
          That (i.e. Gorbachev):
          “Boris Nikolaevich, on what basis did you decide to stop
          almost entirely the tobacco industry of the republic. Why did you do this? ”
          https://ss69100.livejournal.com/2353654.html

          Conscious sabotage and / or sabotage
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPbceuIQw3o
          600 Seconds by Nevzorov, 1989. 1:38 - chickens and pigs die and rot in the factory.

          The deficit in the USSR was created artificially by the administrative-command communist system.
          And the situation in which the store shelves were empty (and any products and goods were abundant in the country) could lead only to one thing - to riots of the population, which the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU actually sought. In the cities of the country, primarily in large industrial centers, where there is a large working class, mass protests of people skillfully translated into riots and riots begin in Moscow and Leningrad. By the fall of 1990, the situation was already ripe for this.
          Newspapers and magazines are full of messages about bread, vodka, tobacco, meat and other riots. Moreover, the fifth column acts as the creators of these publications. Thus, an article by academician S. Shatalin, the “godfather” of the “500 Days” program, in the magazine “Spark” is preceded by photographs of crowds of people at stores with a remark: “Every day, as if by magic, goods that were still in short supply are becoming scarce. There is nothing to shave, nothing to wash, nothing to brush your teeth, nothing ... ”and so on.

          There were many signs of deliberate bringing the miners to a riot: a delay in funds, a ban on the issuance of workwear, and more. But the disappearance of goods from store shelves is especially significant. At first, there was no meat and dairy products, bread products. Then there was no bedding, socks, cigarettes, razor blades. And then tea, washing powder, toilet and laundry soap disappeared from the shelves. And all this for a short time. The miners had nothing to eat and nothing to wash.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 15 June 2020 08: 40 New
            +1
            Here, in Novgorodskaya, even under Brezhnev, in stores there was a ball of kati, both in food and in manufactured goods.
            1. Minato2020
              Minato2020 16 June 2020 01: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Here, in Novgorodskaya, even under Brezhnev, in stores there was a ball of kati, both in food and in manufactured goods.


              The Soviet people worked, carried out and exceeded the five-year plans.
              The deficit in the USSR was created artificially by the administrative means of the Communist Party.
              The directors of vegetable depots and zavmagi made good money on this.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 08: 01 New
    -1
    It is clear that there are no other problems in the country, except for the terrible crowd of pederasts, who are ruining our foundations and statehood.
    Ah smartie, right, well said. smile If we cope with the main problem, then everything will be solved by itself.
    There are no problems in culture, in social programs. Well, medicine has shown itself in all its glory in dealing with the virus.
    Well, who sits in culture, writes the history of the country, who ruins education, social programs with medicine? Everywhere, without exception, they sit their own, crowds of pederasts. Other people will not be allowed there. angry
    Although no, there is also the Dark Lord Liberal, aka Alexey Navalny. Also a terrible liberal force, which is just waiting for the moment to ruin Russia.
    So he is one of these, like Zhirinovsky, Grudinin and Platoshkin. The words are different, but they want one to surrender us to the West. angry
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 14 June 2020 08: 05 New
    +4
    Author! All liberals love the Russian Federation?



    Nobody openly attacked the USSR either, but with the help of the cold ideological war they defeated him, the television and America’s voice also took part ...
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  • flicker
    flicker 14 June 2020 08: 07 New
    +1
    All the way.
    July 1 - I vote for the amendments, for the sovereignty of Russia.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 14 June 2020 08: 44 New
      -9
      The West through its global corporations and its representatives on the boards of directors of major Russian companies
      applauds you standing
      fool
      1. flicker
        flicker 14 June 2020 08: 53 New
        +5
        applauds you standing
        oh well, but for some reason it seems to me like that fool you knock yourself on the head bully
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 14 June 2020 08: 58 New
        -6
        Quote: Pilot
        The West through its global corporations and its representatives on the boards of directors of major Russian companies

        So that's why they are here that we are not sovereign. Do you have to understand your refusal to vote so that you continue to prefer that they are here?
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 14 June 2020 11: 51 New
          -2
          Quote: Boris55
          Quote: Pilot
          The West through its global corporations and its representatives on the boards of directors of major Russian companies

          So that's why they are here that we are not sovereign. Do you have to understand your refusal to vote so that you continue to prefer that they are here?

          How will the homegrown bourgeois be sovereign from the global capitalist world? And who runs the country (owns), in the person of zeroed out? Whoever dines with the girl dances her, so forget the word, sovereignty, before the reds come. My refusal is regarded as indifference to cosmetic amendments that will not change anything, except as an extension of the board of the raw materials administration of the global cap. of the world.
      3. Pas7
        Pas7 14 June 2020 09: 06 New
        12
        This is your boss from the States said so? Not in vain in December 2016 in the states created an agency to counter Putin. And the money was released and used this year too! Her, you use such liberal democracy and openness in your own states. We do not need these liberal-paid squeals.
        We will decide how to vote at the polling station ...
    2. 30143
      30143 14 June 2020 08: 55 New
      12
      Good morning! Do not interpret that I am interfering with your choice.
      Can i ask you?
      If so, then: who wrote the Constitution of the Russian Federation? Here on the forum it was repeatedly written that the partners. And who now corrects, corrects, supplements it?
      I have a feeling that the brain of people has been paralyzed. Unlearned to think for yourself, draw conclusions. The ability to search for the extremes, thank God, has not been lost.
      Sad however!
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 14 June 2020 09: 03 New
        -18
        Quote: 30143
        And who now corrects, corrects, supplements it?

        10 was proposed by Putin, the rest are almost the same. The main thing is that the "Putin's" would pass, and the rest will recover later. That is why they are so yelling against, because understand the full depth of the amendments proposed by Putin, practically nullifying all their efforts in eagerness to serve the overseas master because of a puddle.
        1. 30143
          30143 14 June 2020 09: 14 New
          12
          Oh well...
          And youth is now pragmatic. Maybe leave. Yesterday I watched Malinin. Emma popularly explained why she taught children abroad.
          And those who have learned there already look very different. Therefore, they sculpt the entire non-Russian world as an image of the enemy.
          But, after all, ordinary people everywhere live the same. Everyone has the same problems ...
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 14 June 2020 09: 37 New
            -8
            Quote: 30143
            And youth is now pragmatic. Maybe leave.

            Pragmatic - won't leave. Obolvannaya - yes, but not for long.

            Quote: 30143
            And those who have learned there already look very different.

            This is true. "To defeat a powerful enemy, raise his children." And for this reason it is necessary to go and vote for amendments, for sovereignty.

            Quote: 30143
            Therefore, they sculpt the entire non-Russian world as an image of the enemy.

            I will express the Aesopian language.
            Once the shepherds divided among themselves flocks of sheep and drove them each into their pen. In order that the herd would not disperse, you need to convince them that behind the corral are enemies who dream of depriving them of pasture. When the shepherd’s dogs are no longer able to cope with the obstetric sheep in the herd, then the dogs of the neighboring shepherds come to the rescue. As a result, the herd is heaped near the shepherd, everyone who did not arrange for it is sent to the slaughter and life is getting better ...

            We are engaged in modeling not only us, but everyone else.

            Quote: 30143
            But, after all, ordinary people everywhere live the same. Everyone has the same problems ...

            So capitalism is everywhere, that's why they live like that everywhere, but it was not always like that. There was a time and prices reduced ...
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 09: 51 New
              +4
              Quote: Boris55
              we must go and vote for amendments, for sovereignty.

              Amendment prohibiting calls for the alienation of Russian territory.
              Article 67:

              b) adding part 2.1 follows:

              "2.1. The Russian Federation protects its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions (with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states) aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed. ”

              There are exceptions in brackets, so there is nothing to amend.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 14 June 2020 09: 54 New
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                For reference, if anyone did not know and forgot.

                Amendments to the Constitution proposed by Putin:

                - Limit the priority of international law
                - Change the procedure for appointing the Russian government. The head of government, deputies and ministers will be approved by parliament
                - Change the procedure for appointing heads of law enforcement agencies. The President will appoint them after consultation with the Federation Council
                - Amend the prohibition on the same person to hold the office of president for more than two consecutive terms
                - Raise the residency qualification for the president of Russia from 10 to 25 years
                - Prohibit foreign citizenship and residence permits abroad for judges, heads of constituent entities of the Federation, deputies and senators, the head of government and ministers
                - To tighten this ban for the head of state: the president should not have a residence permit or foreign citizenship, not only at the time of election, but even in the past
                - Turn the Council of State into a constitutional body
                - To give the right to the Federation Council to remove from office the judges of the Constitutional and Supreme Courts. Such resignations will be initiated by the President of Russia for misconduct discrediting honor and dignity
                - To give the Constitutional Court the right to verify the constitutionality of federal laws before they are signed by the head of state. The president will initiate such checks.
                - To prescribe in the Constitution the mandatory indexation of pensions and the norm on the minimum wage equivalent to the cost of living.

                Who has a claim to them?
                All the rest is for EP (including zeroing), it was she who accepted them in three readings and took on the form of a law approved by the Federation Council and local authorities.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 10: 07 New
                  0
                  Quote: Boris55
                  For reference, if anyone did not know and forgot. Amendments to the Constitution proposed by Putin:

                  I read them.
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Prescribe in the Constitution the mandatory indexation of pensions and the norm on the minimum wage equivalent to the cost of living.

                  Well, the cost of living is made-up from a consumer basket, where, for example, 4 pairs of socks for 1,9 years rely on a pensioner. Probably, you can shrink up to a pair of socks a year.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 14 June 2020 10: 15 New
                    0
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx
                    I read them.

                    Very well, and as I understand it, you have no complaints on this issue.

                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    and the cost of living make-up from the consumer basket

                    This is a different question. They will be in the Duma about Russian deputies, they will change the contents of the basket, and much more. So forward to the ballot box by voting, and if we want it to be as it is, then we are sitting at home.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 10: 37 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Very well, and as I understand it, you have no complaints on this issue.

                      There is. However, I will not crush the water in a mortar, the amendments were adopted and approved by the Federation Council, there is little to do - it remains to sign. And then Putin decided to play democracy. While he is convinced that the majority of Russians support the amendments, he needs to be "approved." So fanfare is blowing on all channels, explaining to the unreasonable about the status of the Russian language, without affecting what it means
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      with the exception of delimitation, demarcation, re-demarcation of the state border of the Russian Federation with neighboring states
                      ... And even if a great miracle happens, and Ellochka the cannibal draws "we do not approve", then Putin will ask everyone to treat with understanding. Voting is not a referendum and does not matter.
                      Quote: Boris55
                      and if you want it to be as it is, then sit at home.

                      I kind of explained that I did not see the main difference between the current constitution and the amended.
                      Quote: Boris55
                      They will be in the Duma about Russian deputies, they will change the contents of the basket, and much more.

                      And where did they come from our stupid, current, I can not imagine.
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 14 June 2020 11: 37 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And then Putin decided to play democracy.

                        Putin needs the amendments to enter immediately, not waiting for the next election at all levels.

                        We read the Law (http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/62988):
                        "... If according to the results of the all-Russian vote changes in the Constitution of the Russian Federation will support more than half of citizenswho will take part in it, the amendments provided for by the Law on Amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation in chapters 3–8 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, will come into force."

                        We are not voting on the changes. The Duma has already adopted them and enacted them in the form of a Law approved by the Federation Council and local authorities, so that they would take effect immediately after the publication of the voting results or not. The last word is ours. In my opinion it is quite democratic.

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And even if a great miracle happens

                        If yes, if she had a grandmother, then she would be a grandfather.

                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I kind of explained that I did not see the main difference between the current constitution and the amended.

                        If there is no difference, then why are the liberals screaming?
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 14 June 2020 12: 07 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Boris55
                        then why are the liberals screaming?

                        Putin does not squeal. He is reset to zero.
                  2. aglet
                    aglet 14 June 2020 15: 45 New
                    +1
                    "Very well, and as I understand it, you have no complaints about this issue with Putin."
                    is it about a pair of socks a year? no, no questions, I’ll say more, I am amazed at his generosity
                    "This is a question of a different order."
                    that is, la-la-la-the president’s question, and the number of socks per voter unit is a question of the Duma. And whose wishes does the thought fulfill at the click of a finger? Volodina, Kozlova, or Putin, after all? The owner must be alone, and he for his actions, inaction, he must be accountable to the law and to the people, without shifting his responsibility onto the shoulders of others - the State Duma, the Federation Council, the State Council, etc.
              2. aglet
                aglet 14 June 2020 15: 36 New
                +2
                "Prescribe in the Constitution a mandatory indexation of pensions and a norm on the minimum wage equal to the subsistence level."
                directly write there specific numbers, or streamlined phrases, such as the size of inflation?
                "To empower the Constitutional Court to review the constitutionality of federal laws before they are signed by the head of state."
                and now they don’t check these laws? or just spelling?
                "Convert the State Council into a constitutional body"
                a muddy body that has existed without much sense has been called constitutional for 20 years, and then everything will turn around, it will work
                "To give the right to the Federation Council to dismiss judges of the Constitutional and Supreme Courts."
                and he still has this right, however, the number of reasons for the imprisonment has been significantly reduced since 2005. but they are not invited to increase
                "Limit the priority of international law"
                not to exchange, as the patriots shout here, but to limit. And you can limit it in different ways. well, and so on. and ep takes great care of his existence, even the president is ready to throw sweets if he doesn’t stop feeding her
              3. stylet
                stylet 17 June 2020 13: 22 New
                +1
                You're right! EP did this so that they shouted about zeroing from each iron and took the conversation away from discussing the importance of amendments in order to prevent more people from voting. So that they are now shouting interestingly, if not for the amendment about Putin, how would they call him names?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 14 June 2020 12: 28 New
    -2
    July 1 - I vote for the amendments, for the sovereignty of Russia.
    ... I understand you correctly, at the moment Russia does not have sovereignty, and if it is not, does it depend on someone or is it a colony?
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 14 June 2020 17: 33 New
      +2
      The question is posed correctly, in the world there is only one sovereign and one decision center around which everything revolves, but the first of July is still far from sovereignty.
      This is the first step and the beginning of discussion in society on what foundation our society and state are built.
      https://youtu.be/6Vv7KeEpyz8
      https://youtu.be/108yQSunVrI
      https://youtu.be/0KvBJajVRHo
  • bandabas
    bandabas 14 June 2020 08: 25 New
    +3
    And the lemons "fell in price" right up to 100.99. Everything for us ... gentlemen, voters.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 14 June 2020 12: 29 New
      +1
      Yeah, the lemon rate is falling ... laughing
      1. bandabas
        bandabas 14 June 2020 20: 39 New
        0
        Nothing wrong. After July 1st, it will jump.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 14 June 2020 08: 30 New
    13
    Letter (s) of the offended person ...
    Not everywhere is the story going on in social networks, some where else with legs, pens, a head you need to work!
    Let’s go the textbooks read something, what to bark and smear the snot here .....
  • Boris55
    Boris55 14 June 2020 08: 35 New
    -8
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    It is clear that the main one is the 81st article of the old Constitution, that is, zeroing.

    If United Russia, in the person of Tereshkova, had not slipped this amendment (a pig), what would the entire "progressive" public rattle about? Does anyone else believe that Putin and United Russia are united?

    My personal opinion is that there should not be any restrictions on the length of stay, subject to a clear and enforceable right of voters to remove the negligent leader of all levels of government.

    A simple example.
    If you have a toothache. You will go to whom - a young doctor who has just graduated from a university or a doctor of pre-retirement age. I am sure that everyone will prefer an experienced doctor. So why when the health of all of us depends on the manager of the highest level, do we (some) prefer the young? Where does such irresponsibility come from?

    I am very sorry that Putin will not take advantage of this amendment, although humanly I understand him.

    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    The fact that she is somewhat different from our expectations ...

    The social system, and this is exactly what you expected, by the Presidential Decrees and the Laws of the Duma - does not change.

    Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities, and rightly so, but in order to start doing something, you first need to raise your ass and take the first step.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 10: 39 New
      +3
      Quote: Boris55
      So why when the health of all of us depends on the manager of the highest level, do we (some) prefer the young? Where does such irresponsibility come from?

      Where did you get this? We need a competent manager of the highest level who does not transfer “screwed up” officials of the highest level from chair to chair, but points them to the door. We need a decent manager of the highest rank, who, if he gives a word (promise), holds it and fulfills it on time. We need an honest manager of the highest level who does not wipe his feet on the great power that his "mentors" destroyed, does not say that she only produced galoshes for Africa. We need a person who is not afraid to leave the public post, because 76,7% of voters “love and respect him”. We need a manager of the highest level who knows life and understands that it is impossible to live in our country on a minimum wage of 12 130 and a pension in the amount of (average) about 15 000.
      By the way, why did your idol not live with an old experienced wife who gave birth to two daughters? And here you strive for us to plant the idea of ​​sturgeon of the second freshness.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 14 June 2020 11: 20 New
        -1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Where did you get this?

        From the article, a good obscene language yelling about not allowing a competent manager for the next term, and Putin is such. Remember from what swamp he pulled out a crumbling country. Look at our army, at our agricultural, on our authority in the World, etc. There are flaws? Yes, they aren’t only for those who knock on the keys.

        We still live according to the colonial, State Department Constitution. An attempt to change it at least somehow meets with resistance from the liberal public, realizing that they are being dragged from the Western feeder.

        Quote: ROSS 42
        ... you can’t live in our country on a minimum wage of 12 130 and a pension of (average) about 15 000.

        If you do not use drugs (alcohol, tobacco), if you do not register all relatives in your apartment and pay for all of them for housing and communal services - then it is quite possible and quite decent.

        ps
        My average consumption is 4-5 thousand for one. Housing and communal services for one ~ 2 thousand. Yes, I don’t go around restaurants and don’t pop black caviar. I do not starve and spoil my grandchildren with sweets.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 14 June 2020 11: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: Boris55
          We still live according to the colonial, State Department Constitution.

          It remains to find out who such a young and handsome served in the department of the mayor of St. Petersburg, who had a hand in this "colonial, State Department" constitution?
          Why did the right statesman not say this about the first term of his stay and did not say that we would go the other way, but identified his successes with the growth in the number of billionaires who came from Russia?
          Why can an ordinary Russian, “if you do not use drugs (alcohol, tobacco), if you do not register all relatives in your apartment and pay for all of them for housing and communal services”, can live, and an effective manager needs to pay millions so that he cannot “escape”?
          Why, as a result of coming to power, only the EBN board was evaluated “at its true value”, and the results of the Soviet era are presented as life in a concentration camp?
          Why is the population robbed by the Gaidar-Chubais reforms, the Kirienkov default and other liberal abominations, forced to listen to, see these people in full form and in the form of a monument, for incomprehensible merits?
          You do not tell me about your "bitter" fate, as if your patience is a model of life of a citizen of Russia. I am also not spoiled by classrooms and rides on the riviera. Why did the population of Russia stop growing in this “sweet” Putin era? This is the most important indicator of time.
          There are no more cases and problems left in Russia, except for discussing Efremov’s fate, voting issues and coronavirus statistics.
          Grandchildren buy sweets? This is nice, but nothing like sweets with palm oil, because they don’t sell cheap sweets made from natural ingredients in stores.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 14 June 2020 12: 36 New
            -3
            You, apparently, forgot about the Soviet soya sweets, just for the candy conversation. The result of the Soviet era is the collapse of a power that was collected for centuries, then with blood. Yes, there were many achievements, but judged not by the process, but by the result.
            1. aglet
              aglet 14 June 2020 16: 10 New
              +3
              "You probably forgot about Soviet soy sweets"
              then there were soy and chocolates. it is now - "chocolate" sweets with soybeans - a common thing. in the Soviet era, the state of Russia was saved at least twice by the communists - in the civil and patriotic wars, and it was finally destroyed by the liberal democrats - Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others like them, who sold for cents of Judah. ​​What Chamberlain and Hitler could not do, did two simple Russian guys, communists in high positions. but the process is still underway, not all results have been identified
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 15 June 2020 07: 51 New
            -2
            Quote: ROSS 42
            It remains to find out who such a young and handsome served in the department of the mayor of St. Petersburg, who had a hand in this "colonial, State Department" constitution?

            I wonder how it’s sideways and which hand he put to her? laughing
        2. aglet
          aglet 14 June 2020 15: 58 New
          +2
          "We still live according to the colonial, State Department Constitution."
          it will remain so, with only 400 amendments
        3. Azis
          Azis 15 June 2020 23: 44 New
          0
          Quote: Boris55
          if you do not register all relatives in your apartment and pay for all of them for housing and communal services
          и
          I have one
          Yes, taken out of context, but ... I will not register my wife and children in my apartment, I will not pay housing and communal services for them, everything will turn out fine for one, let's say, and even my granddaughters will remain for study. Do you reject all your relatives? Selfishness, no? Therefore, muesli wins. For example, I have a bunch of relatives from current countries, the former USSR, I myself am from such a state. Spit on them? Kick out? They need registration in order to gain a foothold in Russia. They are Russian by nationality, upbringing and faith. Yes, we arrived, because it’s hard there. I can help you with what I can, but the minimum wage is 12500, or a pension of 15000 is not enough even for your rootless single-handed life. Your calculation, we consider from a pension of 15000 - 4000 (food) -2000 (housing and communal services - firewood, water from a well, splinter, huh?) = 6000. There are 9000 left. Even if you eat only one RPI - 350 * 30 = 10500. And that's it other? Air taxes -hzsk, phone / internet -1000 (or is there no connection?), Can I take sweets to my grandchildren?
    2. aglet
      aglet 14 June 2020 15: 55 New
      +2
      "So why, when the health of all of us depends on the highest-level manager, we (some) prefer the young? Why such irresponsibility?"
      because in 20 years of his tenure in power, this old dentist has managed to do so many things that doubts creep in whether he is a dentist? or is it all like a proctologist ?. that's why people want another "dentist", not necessarily a young one, another. it has already exhausted itself, but does not want to part with the power, is ready for anything, even to replace the constitution, possibly repeated
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 08: 42 New
    -5
    The Dark Lord, strong ... One word - Liberal.
    However, what about those who oppose him? Who are they? Those who are for President Putin and his team? Communists, or what? No, they are ... liberals!
    How is it that everything is against the liberals, for Putin, and he is a liberal ...
    fool fool You are late with kin about ten years. Sands are 100% liberal. And Putin's team is still in its infancy, he is only forming it, "from what was." And the cinema, so he passed the KGB school for 5 and passed. recourse
    1. Gennady Bogdanovich
      Gennady Bogdanovich 14 June 2020 10: 37 New
      -6
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And Putin’s team is still in its infancy, it only forms it

      Turn on your brains. And what has the GDP been doing for 20 years if only now it forms a team? Unsuitability?
      Regarding the KGB, GDP is a traitor. Instead of defending his homeland (USSR), he went over to the henchmen to Sobchak. In short, the Vlasovite is a former officer, a former communist.
      For 13 years he became a colonel, it is not necessary to serve but to curry favor. Scouts illegal immigrants who worked in prisons for decades, retired colonels
      If he had any heroic episodes in his KGB career, now both the iron and the toaster and the television would tell this. Common Gray Clerk (Stork Leader)
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 14 June 2020 11: 06 New
        +9
        Quote: Gennady Bogdanovich
        Turn on your brains.
        Do not turn on your own. There is nothing to turn on, judging by the avatar, everything is drunk. fool
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 14 June 2020 18: 14 New
      +1
      Who is Sands? Talking head voicing the opinion of the owner. Or do you seriously think that he has an influence on politics? No one asks the opinion of parrots, so that there is nothing to do with his political views.
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  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 14 June 2020 08: 58 New
    +6
    From the point of view of a sociologist, freedom is a complex of rights and obligations. From the liberal point of view, freedom is permissiveness for them.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 14 June 2020 09: 06 New
    13
    The author is so burned that he decided to take revenge. Liberalism has also brought it here. Do not replace liberalism with LIBERASY, which smells of extremism. Gentlemen "liberals", where are your deeds aimed at creation? We have already seen enough of the reformers from your camp. Or has your memory gone? Do not cherish yourself with the hope that you are the mind, honor and conscience of the nation. "Small spool, but expensive" - ​​well, this is clearly not about you. A completely different saying comes to mind))) All that we observe is continuous tantrums, stench and persecution of those who are not with you. Disgusting sight.
    And here's another thing. It is not worth, as it were, implicitly to withdraw from the blow of homosexuals, thus enlarging their few ranks. This will not bring you additional points (although it depends on how you interpret it). Well, our people do not like them, as well as the so-called "liberals", in principle.
  • alone
    alone 14 June 2020 09: 11 New
    +5
    There is one important detail in the whole history of amendments to the constitution ... That will have to be voted not on points, but on the entire package of amendments .. Maybe someone from the lawyers will tell me whether this is so legally correct?