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12 June - Day of Russia

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In our country, the main state holiday is the Day of Russia. This status was assigned to him in 1994 by a corresponding presidential decree.


On June 12, 1990, the first Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR adopted the Declaration on the State Sovereignty of Russia, and the next year this day became non-working. Exactly one year after the adoption of the Declaration by popular vote, the majority of Russians elected Boris Yeltsin to the post of first president.

Actually, June 12 can be considered the birthday of the Russian Federation. True, Russia can not be called a young state, because our country has a millennium history. Both the Soviet Union and the Russian Empire are part of our common past.

There is an opinion that the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR was the impetus for the collapse of the USSR. But let's face it. By the time the Congress adopted the declaration, the centrifugal mechanism had already been launched long ago, and the union leadership had virtually withdrawn from power, transferring most of the authority to the field. In order to prevent complete chaos and anarchy, the leadership of the RSFSR assumed the role of the union center, preserving the country, although letting the union republics that decided to go their own way into free navigation.

Thus, a powerful, multinational Russian state with a thousand-year history managed to survive and continue the glorious work of its ancestors.

For a long time this holiday was called Independence Day, but later they decided to rename it to Russia Day. Officially, on June 12 they began to call it that since 2002. Apparently, for more than 10 years they have not decided who exactly we all suddenly became independent from.

Officially, Russia Day is a holiday uniting all the citizens of our vast country, regardless of nationality, political or religious views. True, there is still one problem here - far from all citizens can say what kind of holiday is celebrated in our country on this day. But, by and large, this is not the most important. It is much more important that peace, unity, and the brotherhood of peoples are preserved in our country. And this factor certainly can not depend on the date and day of the week.
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  1. apro
    apro 12 June 2020 00: 17 New
    67
    Holiday ??? I don’t think ...
    The day when the Russians abandoned the Russians ... the day of the destruction of the country ...
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 12 June 2020 00: 38 New
      53
      Driban is really a Great Country - the USSR - and I do not consider eating his remains a holiday.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 12 June 2020 00: 39 New
        51
        Russian Independence Day from 14 Soviet republics and mourning for the destruction of the USSR. That’s all you need to know about this day.

        This day will never be a real holiday that I would like to celebrate. For the common people, he brought nothing, unlike the insatiable elite. So let this shame be celebrated by a nullifier with his friends. They have good reasons (in the form of assigned untold wealth)! Normal people do not want to have anything to do with it.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 12 June 2020 00: 51 New
          33
          Officially, Russia Day is a holiday, unifying all citizens of our vast country, regardless of nationality, political or religious views.

          Seriously?
          1. Far B
            Far B 12 June 2020 01: 37 New
            26
            Yeah. "The main holiday of the country", but "not all citizens can say what holiday is celebrated on this day." This is all you need to know about the so-called. "the day of independence of Russia", now - more bashfully, "the day of Russia". As for me, this is really the bottom of Russia, which Putinism continues to successfully transform into a classic banana republic.
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 12 June 2020 01: 52 New
              +6
              Basement similar to a cave ...
              The actor ... strangled himself!
              (C) "At the Bottom", play, Maxim Gorky

              Still see this scene!
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 12 June 2020 08: 18 New
              24
              Quote: Dalny V
              but "not all citizens can say which holiday is celebrated on this day"

              And how many millions of Russian aliens abandoned throughout the former USSR.
              1. Civil
                Civil 12 June 2020 11: 54 New
                +6
                Everything for me is said in kamenty, paid on a holiday, deceived - on a gloomy calendar day.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 12 June 2020 12: 25 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Civil
                  Everything for me is said in kamenty, paid on a holiday, deceived - on a gloomy calendar day.

                  Holidays all celebrate differently, they each have their own.
              2. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 12 June 2020 13: 38 New
                +6
                "And how many millions of Russian non-citizens have been abandoned throughout the former USSR."
                20-25 million. Yes, probably, as many pro-Russian, Soviet. But there is no exact data on the latter.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 12 June 2020 14: 49 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                  20-25 million.

                  Well, here I am one of them.
            3. Olgovich
              Olgovich 12 June 2020 08: 41 New
              -26
              Quote: Dalny V
              country holiday


              Russia-THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. like its core -Russian people!

              And they deserve a special day calendar to mark this.

              Thanks to Russia, this world, albeit imperfect, exists.

              Glory, glory, you are my Russia,
              Glory to you, our Russian land.
              May it be strong forever and ever
              Our beloved home country.


              Glory, glory, from generation to generation,
              Glory to our great Russian people.
              Enemies encroaching on the edge of the native,
              Strike with a merciless powerful hand.


              Long live Russia!

              RUSSIA and the Russians, with a HOLIDAY! hi
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 12 June 2020 09: 17 New
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                Quote: Olgovich
                RUSSIA and the Russians, with a HOLIDAY!

                Yes, it is with the holiday of common misfortune!
              2. Tibul
                Tibul 12 June 2020 09: 46 New
                15

                Russia is the BEST country in the world. as its core is the Russian people!

                And they deserve a special calendar day to mark this.

                Yes. Not June 12! This is the day when they betrayed Russia.
              3. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 12 June 2020 12: 18 New
                +6
                Quote: Olgovich
                Thanks to Russia, this world, albeit imperfect, exists.

                I agree, I support.
            4. Arlen
              Arlen 12 June 2020 11: 56 New
              14
              30 years ago, the final step was taken towards the formation of a capitalist system in our country, to the rejection of all the achievements of socialism. I don’t know how to call this day when the people of our country were deprived of everything that made their life confident and directed forward. But certainly not a holiday.
              Our people were made "independent" both from equality with a decent standard of living and from free medical care with a high culture and education. All the current tragedies of our peoples - ethnic wars and conflicts, bloody terrorist attacks, economic crises and poverty, the plight and humiliation of millions of Russians in the near abroad, the extinction of the population, etc. - are the result of the destruction of the USSR, the greatest tragedy and the greatest crime of the 20th century.
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 12 June 2020 01: 22 New
          17
          Quote: Stas157
          Independence Day of Russia from 14 Soviet republics and mourning for the destruction of the USSR. That’s all you need to know about this day.

          This day will never be a real holiday that I would like to celebrate.

          It is also the day of independence of Russia as a state from the peoples of Russia itself.
          Not a holiday.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 12 June 2020 07: 36 New
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            Officially, Russia Day is a holiday uniting all the citizens of our vast country

            But what about citizens who have dual citizenship? Does this holidays unite them with us?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 12 June 2020 08: 29 New
              11
              Quote: Svarog
              Does this holidays unite them with us?

              They celebrate holidays in countries of second citizenship. I don't know about everyone, but I know about Boris Gryzlov's daughter that the daughter of the ex-speaker of the State Duma, one of the founders of the United Russia party, Evgenia lives in Tallinn, and received Estonian citizenship. So, as a citizen, she celebrates Estonian holidays.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 12 June 2020 10: 16 New
                14
                Quote: tihonmarine
                that the daughter of the ex-speaker of the State Duma, one of the founders of the United Russia party, Yevgenia lives in Tallinn, and received Estonian citizenship.

                Peskov’s daughter lives in France.
                Here is the price of the educators of their children who teach us to love our homeland
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 12 June 2020 10: 27 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Here is the price of the educators of their children who teach us to love our homeland

                  But they did not teach their children, or did not want to.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 27 New
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            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            It is also the day of independence of Russia as a state from the peoples of Russia itself.

            More truly, when nothing depends on the peoples of Russia! - Even they adopted a constitution without a people, now we need a candy wrapper, a wrapper
      2. Arlen
        Arlen 12 June 2020 01: 49 New
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        Quote: lexus
        eating up his remains

        The appearance of well-being is only supported by the rampant sale of raw materials. Raw materials in nature are not replenished. Consequently, such a squandering of non-replenished resources for purely cosmetic, fake purposes is a plunder of the future of the whole people, deprivation of all prospects of the whole country.
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          1. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2020 03: 44 New
            -18
            Quote: lexus
            After this event, a different, good and honest life began. "

            appeared "lace panties"?
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 25 New
              +8
              Quote: poquello
              appeared "lace panties"?

              Not a single revolution in Russia took place "from above," as did the Maidan. So the "lace panties" will be delivered by the counterparties of the Rotenbergs and Usmanovs request
              1. aglet
                aglet 12 June 2020 12: 24 New
                +3
                "Not a single revolution in Russia happened" from above, "and neither did Maidan."
                quite right, they all happened "laterally". the lower classes did not matter and do not have - extras
                1. poquello
                  poquello 12 June 2020 14: 37 New
                  0
                  Quote: aglet
                  "Not a single revolution in Russia happened" from above, "and neither did Maidan."
                  quite right, they all happened "laterally". the lower classes did not matter and do not have - extras

                  I apologize, I read below when I already answered
              2. poquello
                poquello 12 June 2020 14: 35 New
                -3
                Quote: Silvestr
                Quote: poquello
                appeared "lace panties"?

                So the "lace panties" will be delivered by the counterparties of the Rotenbergs and Usmanovs request

                in how, and I thought Lexus would deliver, it's his wet dreams
                Quote: lexus
                And sweaty, gloomy, tastelessly dressed people went out into the streets, and went to speak with the authorities. On the way, they killed the police, took weapons in the regional departments, and whoever didn’t have enough, he took the weapons in the nearest hunting store.

                Quote: Silvestr
                Not a single revolution in Russia took place "from above," as did the Maidan.

                firstly, the Maidan was not in Russia, and secondly, the Maidan was organized by traitors, including, thirdly, the "top" and "bottom" is communist delirium because everything is done "from the side"
              3. Ded_Mazay
                Ded_Mazay 13 June 2020 16: 26 New
                -1
                Since when did the "palace" coup d'etat called the Maidan, staged by the Ukrainian oligarchs with some political support from the SGA, become a revolution?
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 12 June 2020 09: 15 New
            +6
            Quote: lexus
            Greetings, Comrade!

            I greet you! Beautifully you wrote!
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 10: 20 New
              -17
              Quote: Malyuta
              Beautifully you wrote!

              Exactly at st. 295 of the Criminal Code laughing

              Quote: Greenwood
              It will be possible to understand by the example of VO who is more on the site - patriots or patriots

              You, undoubtedly, rank yourself among the patriots. And you dream of the times when it will happen exactly as the "Lexus" colorfully described there.

              For some reason, you forget that if it happens (and the classic "Maidan" scenario is described, whatever one may say) - your Chinese bank will immediately collapse and leave for your homeland, and you, my young friend, will have nothing to eat.

              But your "patriotism" (for now. While there is something to eat) - prevails over elementary common sense.

              Cool yes
              1. Virus-free crown
                Virus-free crown 12 June 2020 10: 45 New
                +9
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Quote: Malyuta
                Beautifully you wrote!

                Exactly at st. 295 of the Criminal Code laughing
                .

                Of course, you still know me a little - but work hard - if you give references to the Laws - justify them hi

                I, to put it mildly, hefty boring in this matter and adhere to the principle "Not knowing the law does not absolve from responsibility" bully

                I put you a minus for the comment repeat
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 11: 03 New
                  -15
                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  work hard - if you give references to the Laws - justify them

                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  the classic "Maidan" scenario is described, anyway

                  Objections?

                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  You still, of course, know me little

                  It is enough to read your comments to see the next fighter, for all the good and against all the bad. There are a lot of you here, ahem.

                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  I put you a minus for the comment

                  Scared a hedgehog, practically laughing
                  1. Virus-free crown
                    Virus-free crown 12 June 2020 11: 41 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    work hard - if you give references to the Laws - justify them

                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    the classic "Maidan" scenario is described, anyway

                    Objections?

                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    You still, of course, know me little

                    It is enough to read your comments to see the next fighter, for all the good and against all the bad. There are a lot of you here, ahem.

                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    I put you a minus for the comment

                    Scared a hedgehog, practically laughing


                    As far as I remember, I have never been "a fighter for all good against all bad" hi
                    Well, since you "fit" - a question for you - JUSTIFY the link to Art. 295 of the Criminal Code - I've just re-read it personally - the concept of "classic" Maidan "script" is absent in this article as a class !!! recourse
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                      1. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 12 June 2020 12: 43 New
                        0
                        Quote: Golovan Jack

                        ... Of course, there is no direct appeal here - the Lexus is still sober, laughing ...
                        Careful ...


                        Are we talking about the law? bully

                        Since there is no DIRECT appeal, then the nefik is invoking the Law !!! laughing
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 12: 55 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Since there is no DIRECT appeal, then the nefik is invoking the Law !!!

                        Show me in the Law the obligation of "direct" invocation wink
                      3. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 12 June 2020 13: 28 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Since there is no DIRECT appeal, then the nefik is invoking the Law !!!

                        Show me in the Law the obligation of "direct" invocation wink

                        Section 295. Attempt on the life of a person administering justice or preliminary investigation
                         
                        Violation of the life of a judge, jury or other person involved in the administration of justice, prosecutor, investigator, interrogator, defense counsel, expert, specialist, bailiff, bailiff, or their relatives in connection with the consideration of cases or materials in court , by conducting a preliminary investigation or by executing a sentence, court decision or other judicial act, committed with the purpose of obstructing the legitimate activities of these persons or out of revenge for such activities, -
                        (in the edition of the Federal Law from 08.12.2003 N 162-FZ)
                        the applicable sentence is deprivation of liberty for a term of from twelve to twenty years, with restriction of liberty for a term of up to two years, or life imprisonment, or the death penalty.
                        (in the edition of Federal Laws from 21.07.2004 N 73-ФЗ, from 27.12.2009 N 377-ФЗ)
                         ====
                        To start, to argue with me, study the Criminal Code laughing
                      4. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 13: 48 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Corona without virus

                        Ok, we reclassify to Article 280. Public calls for extremist activities

                        Система ГАРАНТ: http://base.garant.ru/10108000/ec9561bc1cc4447b1920d624bcdb5435/#ixzz6P9AuTGxT

                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        to argue with me, study the Criminal Code

                        Neither one nor the other - not the slightest desire ...

                        * whatever - is written together. Lawyer. USE laughing
                      5. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 12 June 2020 14: 12 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Corona without virus

                        Ok, we reclassify to Article 280. Public calls for extremist activities

                        Система ГАРАНТ: http://base.garant.ru/10108000/ec9561bc1cc4447b1920d624bcdb5435/#ixzz6P9AuTGxT

                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        to argue with me, study the Criminal Code

                        Neither one nor the other - not the slightest desire ...

                        * whatever - is written together. Lawyer. USE laughing

                        1. "Change shoes on the go" - you can see right away, a lawyer laughing lol
                        2. Silver medalist of the times of the USSR - 4 just in Russian and lit-re - "by pull" wassat so then 3 with a solid plus hi
                      6. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 14: 21 New
                        -8
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        immediately visible lawyer

                        Not a single place. And proud of it laughing
                      7. New Year day
                        New Year day 12 June 2020 15: 29 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        Not a single place. And proud of it

                        but I blur: what is the difference in the articles, the main thing is to stick and show yourself
                2. New Year day
                  New Year day 12 June 2020 15: 24 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Exactly at st. 295 of the Criminal Code

                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  Section 295. Attempt on the life of a person administering justice or preliminary investigation

                  I do not understand, Golovan, we have a bailiff or something? laughing
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Ok, we reclassify to Article 280. Public calls for extremist activities

                  It’s clear - the troll writes what he himself doesn’t know about. Changing shoes on the fly
                  However, it is always request
                3. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 20: 48 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  It’s clear - the troll writes what he himself doesn’t know about

                  Sylvester, do not be fooled. And then I'll remind you about Chersky ... and your other foams laughing

                  (aside): the campaign was remembered by the doctor of his violets. Well, it’s necessary belay request laughing
  2. AUL
    AUL 13 June 2020 16: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Of course, you still know me a little - but work hard - if you give references to the Laws - justify them

    This is not his style! It’s possible to blurt out something arrogant, with a mentor tone - but it’s not going to argue on the merits!
  • Greenwood
    Greenwood 12 June 2020 11: 05 New
    +9
    Golovan, you again overheated in the sun, huh?
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    For some reason, you forget that if it happens (and the classic "Maidan" scenario is described, whatever one may say) - your Chinese bank will immediately collapse and leave for your homeland, and you, my young friend, will have nothing to eat.
    Don’t worry about me, I’ll always find a job for myself, age, knowledge of languages ​​and profession allow. It’s better to worry about yourself, you’re already old, soon you will not need anyone. lol
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    prevails over elementary common sense.
    Someone, just not a forum troll about "common sense" to speak.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 11: 23 New
      -9
      Quote: Greenwood
      Someone, just not a forum troll about "common sense" to speak

      A young man, in this case you are a troll: without saying anything in fact, you instantly went on to discuss my humble person.

      Quote: Greenwood
      I will always find something for myself, age, knowledge of languages ​​and profession allow

      I, too, what is commonly called an "IT specialist". At the same time (unlike you, vyunosh), I have real work experience, connections and real projects, carried out by me personally and under my leadership, about which a sufficient number of smart people know. You'd better be silent about "languages" - you've already tried to portray something in angelic, not too successfully laughing

      But even I do not want any sharp movements, simply because I have a good idea of ​​what exactly they can lead to. If it is realized, my current experience will not help me, and I will have to recall a completely different experience, namely, acquired in the army and then in civilian life in the 90s.

      To be honest - I would not want to remember all this request
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  • Greenwood
    Greenwood 13 June 2020 14: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    unlike you
    The scattering of pussy went, no? lol
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    I have real work experience, communications and real projects, carried out by me personally and under my leadership, of which a sufficient number of smart people know.
    Ahah. lol You do not praise yourself, no one praises.
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    You'd better be silent about "languages" - you've already tried to portray something in angelic, not too successfully
    I don’t remember that I was portraying something here. This is not an English forum. And at work I communicate with clients in English quite often.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 13 June 2020 15: 05 New
      -4
      Quote: Greenwood
      You will not praise yourself, no one will praise

      Leave my sorrows to me ... I'll figure it out yes

      You, as usual, tried to blur the main thing that was told to you. I repeat: if your desires, do not give fate, come true - you will have nothing to eat ..... vyunosh. And no amount of "knowledge of English" and the ability to press buttons will help you.

      Fortunately, your wishes will not come true. On the other hand, it's a pity - I would love to look at you in an environment when you no longer pay money for your usual "work", and you cannot do anything that is really in demand request

      There was such a cartoon - "In the Land of Unlearned Lessons". Look, he's about you yes
  • Greenwood
    Greenwood 12 June 2020 09: 47 New
    11
    Quote: lexus
    After this event, another, good and honest life began.
    It is interesting to see what more this post will have - pluses or minuses. It will be possible to understand by the example of VO who are more on the site - patriots or patriots.
  • New Year day
    New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 22 New
    +9
    Quote: Arlen
    The appearance of well-being is only supported by the rampant sale of raw materials

    Which are already especially not needed. The market put everything in place; Gaidar Jr. used to say. And what more can be offered? - Own computers, machine tools, airplanes, telephones, kettles, irons, refrigerators? laughing
    1. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 12 June 2020 09: 01 New
      +9
      Quote: Silvestr
      What more can you offer?

      Effective managers. The guarantor, as it were, said that you need to pay sec-sellers according to international standards. And then they are so efficient, so effective, pay them less than in the United States, so they will instantly entice you abroad. So put up for auction. With a starting price of 1 ruble. Maybe he will buy some African tribe, goat security. All the profit to the country ...
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 12 June 2020 09: 03 New
        11
        Quote: Lannan Shi
        pay them less than in the USA, so they will instantly entice you abroad.

        Who needs this rabble there? Well, if you need to ruin something or steal, then please laughing
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 June 2020 14: 40 New
      -6
      The market removed the skewed planned economy towards the military-industrial complex, which was created in the USSR since the 60s - there was no competition, no marketing, no saving production, no high-tech side effect, technical backwardness, or the amount of goods corresponding to the real consumption of goods by the population, a side effect of an increasing deficit from year to year. In the 90s, all this ended, foreign goods, cars and everything else came, and the population itself kicked off our manufacturers by massively buying foreign products - for 69 years in the USSR they were engaged in garbage in terms of the development of civilian products, Western companies attracted the development of private owners in competition, developed their brands and occupied sales markets, creating a service base around the world. "Own computers, machine tools, airplanes, telephones, kettles, irons, refrigerators" In Russia, they have never done this in step with the times - and only recently, in some areas, goods that meet the needs of today and tomorrow began to appear. Non-commodity exports for the last year amounted to more than $ 210 billion - how many people buy and sell.
  • ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 12 June 2020 02: 43 New
    0
    Driban Russi by the means of the USSR, are you talking about this moment?
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 12 June 2020 04: 16 New
    11
    Therefore, a powerful, multinational To the Russian state with a thousand-year history, it was possible to survive and continue the glorious work of their ancestors.
    Well, suppose all the lost territories were part of the Russian Empire, that is, what was saved there. fool
    a holiday uniting all the citizens of our vast country, regardless of nationality, political or religious views.
    People with goats will never unite, no matter how many holidays you enter.
    True, there is still one problem here - far from all citizens can say what kind of holiday is celebrated in our country on this day.
    This suggests that for a holiday there is a void, how many do not hit the drum.
  • aglet
    aglet 12 June 2020 12: 12 New
    +4
    but for me this day is a holiday! it's my son's birthday! and the rest, I agree with the previous speaker
  • Arlen
    Arlen 12 June 2020 02: 00 New
    12
    Quote: apro
    country destruction day

    On this day, June 12, 1990, a declaration of independence was adopted. The adoption of the declaration marked the beginning of the actual disintegration of the Great Country. This is not a holiday.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 12 June 2020 03: 53 New
      21
      Dances with dances on the bones of the once great state to call a holiday ???? ....
      for me it went so blasphemously ...
      I'm not one of the Putriots ... let them keep the dances with tambourines under the tricolor ...
      1. poquello
        poquello 12 June 2020 04: 47 New
        -8
        Quote: kepmor
        Dances with dances on the bones of the once great state to call a holiday ???? ....

        it’s like it, but you went to work like a holiday)
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 12 June 2020 04: 59 New
          +9
          dear, it’s a festive day for you ??? ... so celebrate, and not come out with bile ...
          1. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2020 05: 15 New
            -22
            Quote: kepmor
            dear, is the holiday today for you ???

            Well, as if equivalent, that November 7, June 12)
            Quote: kepmor
            rather than bile come ...

            ) yes here is just a bile parade
            Quote: apro
            country destruction day

            Quote: lexus
            Driban is truly a Great Country - USSR

            Quote: Stas157
            For the common people, he brought nothing, unlike the insatiable elite.

            Quote: Dalny V
            bottom of Russia

            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            Independence Day of Russia as a State from the Peoples of Russia itself

            Quote: Mavrikiy
            The people with the goats will never unite
            1. Tibul
              Tibul 12 June 2020 07: 48 New
              12
              This is not a "parade of bile", but the pressure of the TRUTH. The only good thing about you is that at least November 7 is a holiday for you too.
            2. Greenwood
              Greenwood 12 June 2020 09: 50 New
              12
              Quote: poquello
              well, as if equivalent, that November 7, that June 12
              Do I understand correctly - you are equating the social state-superpower of the USSR with the corrupt banana republic of the Russian Federation?
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 12 June 2020 10: 20 New
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                Quote: Greenwood
                ..you equalize the social state-superpower of the USSR with the corrupt banana republic of the Russian Federation?

                do not compare with the Pechenegs and Polovtsy! There were no social programs at all
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 12 June 2020 14: 49 New
                -2
                And when did it become a banana republic in your universe?
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 13 June 2020 14: 58 New
                  +2
                  Around the time when the minimum wage became at the level of banana republics.
              3. poquello
                poquello 12 June 2020 14: 51 New
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                Quote: Greenwood
                Quote: poquello
                well, as if equivalent, that November 7, that June 12
                Do I understand correctly - you are equating the social state-superpower of the USSR with the corrupt banana republic of the Russian Federation?

                I don’t even equalize it, the Bolsheviks stuck the label “USSR” on Russia for a while and it’s puffing up that there was no history except the USSR and there never will be, and that everything was worse, I will never agree with this tale
    2. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 12 June 2020 10: 10 New
      +9
      Quote: Arlen
      This is not a holiday.

      As far as I remember, although I want to forget, June 12 is the day of the election of EBN ...
      This is the tragedy of many millions.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 12 June 2020 07: 34 New
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    Officially, Russia Day is a holiday uniting all the citizens of our vast country, regardless of nationality, political or religious views

    Only social justice can unite, it is difficult to call a teacher and an official united .. too different incomes ..
  • Alekseev
    Alekseev 12 June 2020 08: 39 New
    +6
    Quote: apro
    Holiday ??? I don’t think ...

    That's right!
    But .. who is to blame? What to do?
    Blame, of course, as always, on grandiose historical turns, all, but to a different extent. Not only Mishka Marked, but also the CPSU as the ruling party, are to blame for not being able to carry out the necessary transformations and keep the country from collapse. But we witnesses of those events perfectly remember what crap they carried as ordinary people from the nat. suburbs, and their leaders, dreaming of unlimited sovereignty.
    Tajiks compared their land a little, much like Switzerland lol and in Ukraine, everyone was sure, as one taxi driver in Zaporozhye told me at the time, that there is no land richer than Ukraine. fellow And every illiterate giant certainly believed that he was right.
    In these conditions, the Declaration on the State Sovereignty of Russia was the right step, nothing can be proved to a person until he has plenty of crap because of his stubborn misconceptions. Even when there is plenty of slurping, everything is one, rests in repentance, an uncluttered nenko is the most striking example.
    Is another thing worth celebrating? And what to celebrate? Is it not better without fireworks to just think on this day how to prevent such cataclysms in the future?
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 12 June 2020 09: 20 New
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    Quote: apro
    The day when the Russians abandoned the Russians ... the day of the destruction of the country ...

    This day our descendants are cursed!
  • Finches
    Finches 12 June 2020 09: 51 New
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    30 years ago - June 12, 1990 - traitor of the Motherland Yeltsin B.N. with accomplices at the Congress of People's Deputies of the RSFSR adopted the Declaration (100% written in the US State Department) on the sovereign status of Russia, starting to finish off the USSR and giving an example to other republics ... - The United States is still standing ovation! Therefore, I personally do not consider this day to be a holiday, and the only desire that wakes up in me is the desire to dig Yeltsin, judge, hang and bury back ...
    1. aglet
      aglet 12 June 2020 12: 32 New
      +4
      "A flurry of ridicule escorted him to the grave,

      Some laughed just madly.

      And only I, only I alone sobbed.

      I so dreamed of seeing him hanged ... "

      Healer Bellock. "To the death of a politician"
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 June 2020 14: 56 New
      -2
      This process was inevitable and the beginning of this inevitability of the crisis and the subsequent collapse of the USSR was laid in the 60s. The USSR is gone and there will never be again since all people have changed in all 15 republics, all now with their own mustaches with their economies and national views.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 12 June 2020 14: 04 New
    -1
    The day when Russia refused to milk it to a maximum of 14 "fraternal" republics and 120 hanging around the neck in the form of rogue countries of lovers of free support.
  • Yarhann
    Yarhann 13 June 2020 00: 27 New
    0
    pathetic and stupid speech. you need to know a little bit the history of your country (RF and USSR), and not just the tops.
  • Alien From
    Alien From 12 June 2020 00: 21 New
    +2
    I love my country! The name does not matter (RI, USSR, RF) we are power! Happy holiday dear forum users !!!)
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 12 June 2020 04: 31 New
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      Well, if the name of the country is not important for you, then yes ... you can celebrate at least every day ... the main thing is that the liver can withstand ...
      and "we are power" is vooooooh ... just so specific ... like a kid ...
      1. aglet
        aglet 12 June 2020 12: 34 New
        +2
        "Well, if the name of the country is not important to you, then yes ... you can celebrate at least every day ... the main thing is that the liver can withstand ..."
        it’s not even the name of the country, it’s the social structure of the country
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 12 June 2020 00: 22 New
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    ... this holiday was called Independence Day ..., ... Apparently ... they didn’t decide on whom exactly we all suddenly became independent from.

    Therefore, we simply celebrate the birthday of our city. Komsomolsk-on-Amur- HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!
    1. And why do you need
      And why do you need 12 June 2020 03: 51 New
      +5
      Good cloudy morning, fellow countryman. So it is, we will celebrate the day of the city.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 12 June 2020 10: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: Why do you need it?
        Good cloudy morning, fellow countryman. So it is, we will celebrate the day of the city.

        Happy Hometown Day, countryman !!! And the day it went wrong, just lovely! good drinks drinks drinks
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 June 2020 13: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: Fitter65
      Therefore, we simply celebrate the birthday of our city. Komsomolsk-on-Amur- HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!

      You probably did not delve into the past of the city when:
      On May 10, 1932, a Komsomol detachment landed in the area of ​​the village of Perm, founded on August 18 [30], 1860.
      December 10, 1932 - the village of Perm was transformed into the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
      In May 1933, prisoners arrived at the construction of the city [9].
      In Soviet times, the city was a military-industrial center of national importance.
      In the period from 1959 to 1993, the city was closed to foreigners.
      The day of the city is June 12, in honor of the date June 12, 1933, when they laid the foundation for the hull workshop - the first industrial facility of a shipyard.

      Such an interesting coincidence, it seemed to me all the time that the appearance of the name of the city was its birthday.
      By the way:
      Holiday City Day on this day is June 12 celebrated by such Russian cities as Novgorod, Kolomna, Kemerovo, Perm, Kirov, Krasnoyarsk, Khanty-Mansiysk, Ufa, Saransk, Kirov, Tambov, Belogorsk (located in the Amur Region), Gagarin (this is Smolenskaya region, if not mistaken, the former city of Gzhatsk), Penza, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Syktyvkar, Izhevsk.

      I believe that this is happening (it began to happen) due to cost savings for "salute shooting" ... Or did they find stones and foundations for corps workshops in all cities?
      This is strange on June 12th ... Until 1994, it was an ordinary summer day.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 12 June 2020 15: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        You probably did not delve into the past of the city when:

        You will be surprised that you just delved into the history of the city of Youth. Back in the distant 70 years, when I was studying at Chingis secondary school, we young Komsomol members wrote a letter to the Komsomol members of Komsomolsk-on-Amur. In their reply letter they sent us photographs, souvenirs and books on the history of the city. When I looked at those photos, I didn’t even assume that I was looking at my future home, where I will live for almost 23 years
        My mother-in-law's father participated in this famous passage
        1933 ended - the second year of construction of Komsomolsk-on-Amur. But the results did not satisfy the government. Then the government made a decision on the creation in the fall of 1933 of the Special Military Building Corps, which faced two tasks: to build industrial enterprises in the Far East and to improve combat training in order to be ready for any surprises. For seven weeks the first team of 6 military builders traveled from Khabarovsk to Komsomolsk-on-Amur. In incredibly difficult conditions, they covered 400 kilometers of skiing on ice hummocks. Every day, soldiers walked 25-30 km
        You then look basically Wikipedia flipped through, where in the first place they read about prisoners. But about the Komsomol members of the first and second calls did not hint a word. About the soldiers of the Special Building Corps, also silence, but about the prisoners, this is mandatory. Well, in continuation of the topic, but moved the city’s birthday to June 12, so what? In Novosibirsk, the city’s day was also moved from the beginning of June to the last Sunday of June. Here the truth is painfully tragic ...
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 12 June 2020 00: 32 New
    -3
    Happy Holidays and no members of the forum! I wish Russia and its people (as well as its allies) prosperity and well-being, the development of its vast expanses and immortality for evil to the empirialists and their henchmen ...
    Russia and its peoples have exhausted their limit on wars, revolution and poverty, so that there can only be a carefree future and prosperity ahead ...
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 12 June 2020 01: 39 New
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      Quote: Lara Croft
      Russia and its peoples have exhausted their limit on wars, revolution and poverty, so that there can only be a carefree future and prosperity ahead.

      Here are the drunks and cheer carefree: they do not care,
      what to celebrate, if only "booze" was a day off.
      It is normal for normal people to think about the future of the country, children, grandchildren, and not only their hard-earned ones.

      Attention is drawn to the fact that on "independence day" not only the mausoleum is covered,
      but also the monument to Minin and Pozharsky is fenced off with a scene for the Sabbath, as something unnecessary!
    2. codetalker
      codetalker 12 June 2020 01: 40 New
      -18
      Judging by the minuses, people do not want prosperity)
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 12 June 2020 01: 43 New
        -16
        Quote: codetalker
        Judging by the minuses, people do not want prosperity)

        Either from another planet, or a state hostile to the Russian Federation ....
        1. Tibul
          Tibul 12 June 2020 07: 59 New
          13
          Hurray patriots cause dislike in many normal people. If this is a holiday for you, celebrate, no one will say a word to you, but do not let your cockroaches out of their head.
          1. codetalker
            codetalker 12 June 2020 13: 52 New
            -1
            The "normal" as usual did not understand and rushed to blame, stigmatize, etc. You can simply read carefully, but "normal" is apparently not interesting.
        2. Andobor
          Andobor 12 June 2020 10: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Lara Croft
          or a state hostile to the Russian Federation ....

          Yes, the information war is in full swing.
          - Hostility to the Russian state is not a reason for the ban.
      2. New Year day
        New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 33 New
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        Quote: codetalker
        Judging by the minuses, people do not want prosperity)

        Do you mean the "development" of domestic health care, education, the growth of the well-being of citizens, their social security? Or maybe 25 million new jobs? Or slipping off the oil and gas needle?
        Remember your thought ...
        1. codetalker
          codetalker 12 June 2020 13: 54 New
          +1
          I meant what I wrote.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 12 June 2020 15: 02 New
          -3
          And you have 25 million highly skilled workers - unemployed for these new 25 million jobs.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 12 June 2020 15: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            And you have 25 million highly skilled workers - unemployed for these new 25 million jobs.

            after the coronavirus is already a bunch, must be employed. Although 25 million, but there is!
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 12 June 2020 20: 49 New
              -2
              Highly skilled and 100000 will not be typed up by the unemployed - all the rest are low-skilled labor. They only work as sellers of loaders laborers and office plankton to work.
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 12 June 2020 10: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: codetalker
        Judging by the minuses, people do not want prosperity)

        judging by the growth in the Forbes list, not everyone has bloomed. While some are poor, others are thriving. Who are you worried about?
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 June 2020 05: 01 New
      24
      Quote: Lara Croft
      so there can only be a carefree future and prosperity ahead ...

      A people cannot have a carefree future and prosperity with torn pages of past history, with ideals soiled and slandered, ideals toppled from pedestals, with parts of the once great land cut off and torn off by the roots, which was abundantly watered with blood.
      I don’t know what feelings on this “festive day” people feel when they have turned out by the will of three villains outside the country, which was called RI, the USSR. But I am firmly convinced that they did not want such a "bright future."
      I won’t bother. Most stood before me and expressed the main thoughts, which he himself, without suspecting, summed up:
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      People with goats will never unite, no matter how many holidays you enter.

      hi
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 12 June 2020 00: 40 New
    +1
    "..But let's face it. By the time the declaration was adopted by the Congress of People's Deputies, the centrifugal mechanism had long been launched, and the Union leadership actually removed itself from power, transferring most of the powers to the localities ..."
    June 12, 1990? This is not true, but excuse.
    Further, "..the leadership of the RSFSR assumed the role of a union center, preserving the country, although letting the union republics float freely .."
    So saved or released in swimming? An obvious contradiction.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 00: 40 New
    21
    Our most important holiday is the New Year. And the day of Russia, pah, I only recalled from this article that we have a day off tomorrow.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 12 June 2020 01: 29 New
      10
      And the day of Russia, pah

      Celebrating the killing and dancing on the bones - the lot of the possessed.
    2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 12 June 2020 04: 44 New
      21
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      Our most important holiday is the New Year. And the day of Russia, pah, I only recalled from this article that we have a day off tomorrow.

      I do not know? Anyone like, I have the best holiday Victory Day!
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 04: 48 New
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        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Anyone like, I have the best holiday Victory Day!

        I will not argue. hi
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 12 June 2020 07: 35 New
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        the best holiday is Victory Day!
        And by the way, it was then that the inhabitants of the Soviet Union defended their independence.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 35 New
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        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Anyone like, I have the best holiday Victory Day!

        This is the only holiday that still unites the former republics of the USSR hi
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 12 June 2020 11: 35 New
          +8
          Quote: Silvestr
          This is the only holiday that still unites the former republics of the USSR

          And the holiday which the Novovlasovites unscrupulously use to strengthen their power.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 12 June 2020 00: 44 New
    22
    I do not think that this remake Yeltsin .. for me a holiday.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 12 June 2020 10: 56 New
      +5
      Russia was independent 400 years ago. How can an independent state become independent again? Nonsense.
  • codetalker
    codetalker 12 June 2020 01: 00 New
    +6
    Well, let's not juggle. Yes, the state “cracked”, and the council of people's deputies finished it off. It doesn’t matter that the person is sick, but the doctor: “Yes, let him be up, well, he’s suffering.”
    There is no feeling that the holiday has entrenched "among the people." And no one will explain that we are celebrating something? Independence from whom? Russia Day? Why is this day - the day of millennial Russia? Well and so on.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 12 June 2020 01: 04 New
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    I love Russia, but I don't consider June 12 a holiday, because whatever you call it, it was this "Declaration on the State Sovereignty of Russia" adopted on June 12.06.90, XNUMX that gave impetus to the parade of sovereignty and the subsequent collapse of a single country into national apartments. So just a day off.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 12 June 2020 01: 54 New
      -3
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      "Declaration on the state sovereignty of Russia" adopted on 12.06.90, the date gave impetus to the parade of sovereignty and the subsequent collapse of a single country into national apartments.

      Well, I think the national apartment of the former RSFSR looks more advantageous against the background of the republics' friend of its "breadwinners" .... let them build their independence on their own, as they say, you can't be lovely ... each of the "breadwinners" of the RSFSR received as much independence as he could carry, and the Russian Federation relatively recently paid for the debts of a common house, no one even said thanks to her, but only demand, from old memory, prices for energy resources, as in the Smolensk region, and return the territories that never belonged to them by law ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 03: 16 New
        +8
        Quote: Lara Croft
        and the Russian Federation paid off relatively recently for the debts of a common house, no one even said thanks to her,

        The Russian Federation itself shouldered these debts, and with joy, it was presented as a victory for our economists: "We will give less than we will receive," have you forgotten, or what? However, judging by your nickname, you rode in a wheelchair for those years.
        1. tatra
          tatra 12 June 2020 04: 53 New
          10
          The enemies of the USSR, who seized Russia, and for 30 years cowardly whine "and we have nothing to do with it, it's the communists to blame", they love to grovel that they paid the debts of the USSR. BUT, firstly, their "Liberator" Gorbachev collected 90 percent of these debts, and secondly, they forgave other countries many times the large debts that those countries owed the Soviet Union.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 12 June 2020 15: 11 New
            -1
            Yes, if they hadn’t forgiven, hell would one of them give to Russia since there are neither those who gave nor those who took the sky to ask for these debts.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 19: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              to hell who of them that gave Russia

              And why Russia could not send to
              Quote: Vadim237
              horseradish

              western debts of the USSR?
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 12 June 2020 20: 58 New
                -1
                Why Russia couldn’t send on because everything was documented - the country borrowed from the Paris Club, the IMF and other capital countries know how to count money and arrange everything correctly. The country lived in the late 80s and all 90s.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 21: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  the country borrowed from the Paris Club, the IMF and other capital countries

                  Took the USSR. So RF screwed up?
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 12 June 2020 10: 35 New
          -4
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          However, judging by your nickname, you rode in a wheelchair for those years.

          What are there fool you don’t hear, it turns out that some of them can determine the year of birth by nickname, this is my friend’s schizoid ....
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 10: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: Lara Croft
            by nickname they can determine the year of birth, this is my friend’s schizoid ...

            What, incorrectly suggested? But for the young one, up to 30 years old, Lara Croft is accepted, but the older ones are unlikely to be put on, except for Mikhan, and even then because of the death of fantasy for her thousands of nicknames.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 12 June 2020 10: 50 New
              -7
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Lara Croft
              by nickname they can determine the year of birth, this is my friend’s schizoid ...

              What, incorrectly suggested? But for the young one, up to 30 years old, Lara Croft is accepted, but the older ones are unlikely to be put on, except for Mikhan, and even then because of the death of fantasy for her thousands of nicknames.

              Apparently now all the doctors are celebrating in your hospital ... and you only have a sedative ...
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 11: 15 New
                +5
                Quote: Lara Croft
                Apparently now all the doctors are celebrating in your hospital ... and you only have a sedative ...

                Boo boo boo ... Got it.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 12 June 2020 11: 16 New
                  -4
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Apparently now all the doctors are celebrating in your hospital ... and you only have a sedative ...

                  Boo boo boo ... Got it.

                  And?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 11: 20 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Lara Croft
                    And?

                    S. Tired, in a word.
                    1. Lara Croft
                      Lara Croft 12 June 2020 11: 23 New
                      -2
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Quote: Lara Croft
                      And?

                      S. Tired, in a word.

                      Exactly fool he got into someone else’s dialogue, and when there weren’t enough arguments for his own nonsense, he writes tired, this is the clinic ....
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 12 June 2020 11: 31 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        It’s like he got into someone else’s dialogue, and when there weren’t enough arguments for his own nonsense, he writes tired, this is the clinic ....

                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        It’s clear when there are no organizations, they become personal, here you’re not one like that, so I won’t be upset

                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        Apparently now all the doctors are celebrating in your hospital ... and you only have a sedative ...

                        Quote: Lara Croft
                        this is schizoid, my friend.

                        Good stream of consciousness. Until the evening. Take the pill yourself.
                      2. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 12 June 2020 11: 33 New
                        -3
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Good stream of consciousness. Until the evening. Take the pill yourself.

                        I say again, I was not going to talk with you, ask the doctor for yourself better dust, right thing ...
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 June 2020 05: 17 New
      18
      Quote: Lara Croft
      The Russian Federation paid off relatively recently for the debts of a common house, no one even said thanks to her ...

      RF paid? And who is it-the Russian Federation? Usurped power, spit on the will of the people plunged a large part of the population into a miserable existence and paid? How did you pay? Undermined by the health of the nation, its inability to elementary reproduction? Maybe they paid off with the ditched education system of secondary and higher schools, as a result of which the seller is the most demanded profession in the country?
      An interesting system of reckoning with the emergence of hundreds of dollar billionaires, which cannot explain the lightning speed of the results of such accumulation, and 190 dollar millionaires, who were able to fit into the market against the background of “reckoning”.
      Interestingly, they will say thanks to someone or, like Chubais, blame the “infantile” society for ingratitude (from 1:01)
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  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 12 June 2020 01: 31 New
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    Apparently, for more than 10 years they have not decided from whom exactly did we all suddenly become independent. But the people, I hope, understood already from what (!)we became "independent" ... ! "Independent" of honesty, decency in human relations ... from guaranteed work, from housing allocated for impeccable work ... but what is there to talk about ?! From many things they were "independent"!
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 12 June 2020 02: 07 New
      -15
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      "Independent" of honesty, decency in human relations ... from guaranteed work, from housing allocated for impeccable work ... but what is there to talk about ?! From many things they were "independent"!

      Those. in order to be honest and decent, you need to return the USSR, so what ...?
      from guaranteed work

      there was such a thing and the USSR Constitution of 1977 and the RSFSR of 1978 gave such a guarantee, however, the article for parasitism was in the Criminal Code .....
      Any right implies not only rights, but also obligations, incl. passport regime and compulsory training after high school ...
      from housing allocated for excellent work ...

      it was like that, they stood in line for housing in 1982 and got an apartment in 2002 already under the modern Russian Federation ... my parents didn't need it anymore, they needed it when they were young ...
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 12 June 2020 03: 24 New
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        Quote: Lara Croft
        Those. in order to be honest and decent, you need to return the USSR, so what ...?

        Judging by the response to the comment, you forgot to turn on the "smart" when you answered ... Or is it under repair?
        PS I would like to answer you on the other two "points", but changed my mind, considering the first ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 June 2020 04: 07 New
          -15
          Quote: Nikolaevich I

          Judging by the response to the comment, you forgot to turn on the "smart" when you answered ... Or is it under repair?
          PS I would like to answer you on the other two "points", but changed my mind, considering the first ...

          that is, Naham and merged
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          from whom exactly did we all suddenly become independent

          from the leading and guiding role of the CPSU
          1. Tibul
            Tibul 12 June 2020 08: 16 New
            -3
            from the leading and guiding role of the CPSU

            And so, and yet not so. This is foam. Yes, the CPSU in the person of the rulers is a complete negative, but the Trotskyists began with Khrushchev, who broke true socialism and embarked on rails of rapprochement with capitalism. Sooner or later, both Brokeback and Chubaty and Putin should have appeared.
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 11: 41 New
              -1
              Khrushchev did not break socialism, although the transition to market relations was already relevant. The administrative-command economy has already outlived itself. Brezhnev, instead of giving green light to Kosygin’s reforms, continued to cling to obsolete communist dogmas. But then the country could still be saved. No wonder Deng Xiaoping chose the Kosygin-Liberman reforms rejected by Soviet bonzes as the basis for the transformation of China.
            2. poquello
              poquello 12 June 2020 15: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Tibul
              from the leading and guiding role of the CPSU

              And so, and yet not so. This is foam. Yes, the CPSU in the person of the rulers is a complete negative, but the Trotskyists began with Khrushchev, who broke true socialism and embarked on rails of rapprochement with capitalism. Sooner or later, both Brokeback and Chubaty and Putin should have appeared.

              depending on what you mean by real socialism
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 12 June 2020 10: 38 New
          -5
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Judging by the response to the comment, you forgot to turn on the "smart" when you answered ... Or is it under repair?

          It’s clear that when there are no organizations, they become personal, here you’re not one fool so I won’t be upset laughing
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 12 June 2020 05: 35 New
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        How old are you that you talk about the causes of "parasitism"? This article was for several reasons, the main of which was to teach a person to creative work, and not to speculation.
        Quote: Lara Croft
        Those. in order to be honest and decent, you need to return the USSR, so what ...?

        Especially for "you"! We want to live in a country where honesty and decency would be appreciated at a high level and would be a criterion in the selection of personnel for high positions, and not serve as an occasion for ridicule and humiliation.
        Judging by the scribble, you are a product of the EBN era, and you undertake to talk about things without even having a clue about their essence.
        Take the flag and go outside ... Your time has not run out yet ...
        1. poquello
          poquello 13 June 2020 03: 44 New
          0
          Quote: ROSS 42
          How old are you that you talk about the causes of "parasitism"? This article was for several reasons, the main of which was to teach a person to creative work, and not to speculation.

          )))))))))))))))))))) speculators satisfied the demand of the working people which took place due to the curvature of the distribution system
      3. aglet
        aglet 12 June 2020 12: 47 New
        +1
        "from guaranteed work

        there was such a thing and the USSR Constitution of 1977 and the RSFSR of 1978 gave such a guarantee, however, the article for parasitism was in the Criminal Code .....
        Any right implies not only rights, but also obligations, incl. passport regime and compulsory work after university ... "
        But will it be in the constitution of 2020?
        "and the article for parasitism was in the Criminal Code ....."
        if now introduce this article, how many so-called workers "will ring with shackles"? baristas, prostit-tarzans, guards of all stripes? who have you forgotten? , yes, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the National Guard
  • Brigadier
    Brigadier 12 June 2020 02: 54 New
    10
    And who "celebrates" him, except for Putin's media?

    Who among the people celebrates this Yeltsin "holiday" of independence from the USSR?
    This is it! request
  • cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 12 June 2020 03: 23 New
    14
    For me personally, the main holiday in Russia on May 9 (June 24), without a victory over the Nazis and we would not be there as a people (Russians) and the country itself !!!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 June 2020 05: 41 New
      +9
      Quote: cokol-161
      without victory over the Nazis, we would not be there as a people (Russian) and the country itself !!!

      And for me, the main holiday is also November 7, the day that laid the foundation for the creation of a country that defeated European fascism.
      May 9 is the day of the Great Victory, it is a celebration of the joy of the living and the memory of the fallen.
  • engineering
    engineering 12 June 2020 03: 28 New
    +4
    Controversial questions arise about this holiday, but what is, is, December 30, 1922 is considered the day of the formation of such a structure as the USSR, which after 68 years successfully collapsed, June 12, 1990, created a new structure, the Russian Federation will pass another hundred years will be called differently, this does not change the essence. we remain and will be RUSSIAN, as A.V. Suvorov said these wonderful words,
    ... he, as was supposed to be the commanders of his time, often before the battle inspired his miraculous heroes with a fiery speech. "We are surrounded by mountains ... surrounded by a powerful enemy, proud of victory ... Now there is no one to wait for help from, one hope for God, the other for the greatest courage and the highest self-sacrifice of the troops you are leading ... We will face the greatest works, unprecedented in the world! We are on the edge of the abyss! But we are Russians! God is with us!"
    https://eot-su.livejournal.com/2158678.html
    1. tatra
      tatra 12 June 2020 05: 03 New
      13
      Judging by the monstrous demographics of the Russian people after the destruction of the USSR, and the dominance of Muslims in post-Soviet Russia, 100 years later, if the enemies of the Communists still own Russia, the Russian people in Russia will become a national minority. And Russia will become one of the poorest and most backward countries in the world.
      1. poquello
        poquello 12 June 2020 05: 30 New
        -15
        Quote: tatra
        Judging by the monstrous demographics of the Russian people after the destruction of the USSR, and the dominance of Muslims in post-Soviet Russia, 100 years later, if the enemies of the Communists still own Russia, the Russian people in Russia will become a national minority. And Russia will become one of the poorest and most backward countries in the world.

        in RI the peoples swore allegiance to the Russian tsar and served faithfully, the Communists made the brothers of the other peoples, and if you are so worried about the Russian people, vote for the constitution
        Vladimir Putin proposed to enshrine in the Basic Law that the Russian people are state-forming, and the state language is Russian.

        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/02/03/2020/5e5d010e9a794718c0f57783
        1. tatra
          tatra 12 June 2020 05: 37 New
          +8
          Yes, we are watching the "history" of the enemies of the USSR about the centuries-old period of the Russian State before the October Revolution. For the Russian enemies of the USSR, this period begins and ends with the rule of the last Russian monarch, falsified for the sake of profit in anti-Sovietism, and the enemies of the USSR, who seized the national republics of the USSR, squeal, as the Russians occupied and oppressed them at that time.
          YES, the Soviet people have always been for the Friendship of Peoples, for how many generations of our ancestors live in one big country, and your anti-Soviet people - for the dismemberment of that great centuries-old country, for hatred between peoples, for waging wars on the territory of the USSR occupied by you .
          1. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2020 05: 53 New
            -12
            Quote: tatra
            Yes, we are observing the "history" of the enemies of the USSR about the centuries-old period of the Russian State before the October Revolution

            the worthy history of the great people and the USSR in it is an instant in general, and the Communists, by the way, tried to cover up this story of the great people. For example, on June 12, the Yeltsin’s bullshit of the CPSU, by the way, people’s deputies accepted the declaration for about 900, as there was no king like that about the overthrow of the tsar, but what about Yeltsin and Gorbachev about the June 12 blast, and the fact that the CPSU didn’t do much brain work before comes in.
            1. tatra
              tatra 12 June 2020 06: 05 New
              13
              Unlike your anti-Soviet people, whose only history in the world is the history of their country — evil, boorish, slanderous, with the justification of the criminals and external and internal enemies of their country and people, the praise of collaborators and separatists of their country, the Soviet people always respected the history of their country. And the enemies of the USSR, after your capture of the USSR / Russia, began to destroy not only Soviet, but also Russian, and impudently plant foreigners.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 12 June 2020 07: 44 New
                -11
                Quote: tatra
                , the Soviet people have always respected the history of their country

                what And what happened to the Leninist Bolsheviks? Well, what about personalities in the history of the USSR? And Vasya Stalin for what drove into the grave? Well, as part of the story? I’m silent about Beria ... the enemy of the people of Beria, there is no trust in you, Comrade Malenkov came and kicked you !!! Communism and respect for history are completely different things !!!
                Here is the enemy of the people of Lexus with accomplices ... June 12 is a holiday on the bones !!!! And November 7 is not on the bones? Gentlemen, as communists, you are now behaving one on one like white emigres! Come bile too! Those in returning all that was former had hope for Hitler, but who are you heels .... who do you want to wash, in order to come to power? Although you are already gratifying the oligarchs for their promises to attach you to the state body!
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 40 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Serg65
                  And what happened to the Leninist Bolsheviks? Well, as with personalities in the history of the USSR

                  They became Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Putin, Sechins, Rotenbergs, Chubais request
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 12 June 2020 08: 43 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    They became Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Putin, Sechins, Rotenbergs, Chubais

                    Those. Above you are listed there are receivers of the Leninist Guard ????
                    laughing Even I did not expect this!
                    1. aglet
                      aglet 12 June 2020 13: 57 New
                      0
                      "Ie the above you listed are the successors of the Leninist guard ????
                      laughing Even I didn't expect this! "
                      Well, if they were all communists, or rather, members of the party, then they were- successors of the Leninist Guard
                      1. Serg65
                        Serg65 12 June 2020 14: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: aglet
                        Well, if they were all communists, or rather, members of the party, then they were- successors of the Leninist Guard

                        Those. are the Bolsheviks in power now? Then why such a cheese? Why then do pseudo-communists tear their own hair?
                      2. aglet
                        aglet 12 June 2020 14: 08 New
                        +1
                        they are not Bolsheviks, and they have never been. for personal gain, to destroy the country that all the people built for generations- I do not know what to call it. are the boys bad? too simple. enemies of the people? like that. they pretended to be communists, but cherished this dream in themselves, and did share it — bought them all in the bud, not me, not you — but the secretary general and a bunch of first secretaries, they were fewer, therefore it was cheaper to buy
                      3. Serg65
                        Serg65 12 June 2020 14: 16 New
                        -2
                        Quote: aglet
                        there were fewer, because it was cheaper to buy

                        Do you like a marine theme? Then tell me .. Fleet Admiral Gorshkov, Vice Admiral Kulakov ... well, or, for example, also bought Marshal Grechko?
                      4. aglet
                        aglet 12 June 2020 14: 26 New
                        0
                        I explain, one general secretary was cheaper to buy than several military commanders, and Marshal Grechko died in 1976, Admiral Gorshkov died in 1988, Admiral Kulakov died in 1976. any questions?
                      5. Serg65
                        Serg65 12 June 2020 15: 00 New
                        +1
                        Quote: aglet
                        any questions?

                        Of course have!
                        Marshal Grechko adopted his granddaughters so that these adult girls could get departmental apartments - Article 147 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR from 4 to 10 with confiscation of property!
                        Admiral Gorshkov awarded his grandson Senior Lieutenant Gorshkov with the Order of the Red Star for a 3-month trip on the hydrographic vessel Admiral Vladimirsky. The same admiral ordered that a fourth-year cadet Pyotr Gorshkov, his teacher, with the rank of captain of the 4rd rank and classmate Petr, BPC, be reserved to deliver this trinity from the Mediterranean Sea to Sevastopol ... because Petya was late for Leningrad’s birthday women Zina! Art. 3 Excess of power up to 170 years!
                        Admiral Kulakov, his son held a high post in the anti-Soviet organization of the All-Union Agricultural Union of Agriculture, ..... the admiral saved his son by his authority! The same article 170 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR
                        Did these Americans also buy these admirals and marshals?
                      6. aglet
                        aglet 12 June 2020 15: 45 New
                        -1
                        so you yourself cited these examples as the most incorruptible
        2. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 09: 36 New
          -9
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Serg65
          And what happened to the Leninist Bolsheviks?


          They became Yeltsins, Gorbachevs, Putin, Sechins, Rotenbergs, Chubais

          Interesting idea! belay

          Doctor, would you deign to explain in more detail - how did the "Leninist guard" become the Yeltsins?
          1. aglet
            aglet 12 June 2020 14: 01 New
            +1
            all this Leninist guard was Trotskyists. Yeltsin sacredly fulfilled their precepts - to destroy the country - on the drum, the main thing is that the partners are happy
      2. aglet
        aglet 12 June 2020 13: 55 New
        -1
        "And why was Vasya Stalin driven into the grave?"
        well, about what Efremov is being watered for - an alcoholic, dishonored his family
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 12 June 2020 14: 03 New
          0
          Quote: aglet
          drunk, disgraced his family

          And how many drunks were the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB of the USSR purposefully driven into the grave?
          1. aglet
            aglet 12 June 2020 14: 29 New
            0
            "And how many drunks did the Central Committee of the CPSU and the KGB of the USSR purposefully drive into the grave?"
            who considered them, maybe because the union was destroyed in 1991, and not earlier
    2. aglet
      aglet 12 June 2020 13: 48 New
      +1
      "And the enemies of the USSR, after you seized the USSR / Russia, began to destroy not only Soviet, but also Russian, and impudently implant foreignism."
      as long as it does without foreignism, our "odinestrets" howl loudest of all, how Russians destroyed and humiliated them, preventing them from living in their feudal "states"
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 June 2020 07: 30 New
    +2
    The CPSU profiled everything
    listen to smart people.

  • aglet
    aglet 12 June 2020 13: 53 New
    +1
    "and the communists, by the way, tried to cover it up, this story of a great nation."
    the Communists’s big mistake was that they put these Narodniks on a par with the Russian people, so they came up with the idea that they are also great. nomads, shepherds, hake catchers in the cold sea, and other tribes
  • poquello
    poquello 12 June 2020 06: 28 New
    -7
    Quote: tatra
    YES, the Soviet people have always been for the Friendship of Peoples, for how many generations of our ancestors live in one big country, and your anti-Soviet people - for the dismemberment of that big centuries-old country

    than general phrases would ask about the existence of separatism in Russia until 1917
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 12 June 2020 09: 37 New
      -9
      Quote: poquello
      than general phrases would be interested in grinding

      Give it up. This is the "organ".
  • Overlock
    Overlock 12 June 2020 10: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: poquello
    the same communists made of other peoples brothers

    Do you have brothers? I have- and very well
    Quote: poquello
    in RI, people swore allegiance to the Russian Tsar and served faithfully

    maybe the army and the police swore? So we also swear allegiance to him. Where are the people here? Is it to blame and shoot?
    1. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2020 17: 10 New
      -2
      Quote: Overlock
      Quote: poquello
      the same communists made of other peoples brothers

      Do you have brothers? I have- and very well

      so dial yourself, there are a lot of them, they are only "for"))))))))))))))))
      Quote: Overlock
      maybe the army and the police swore?

      learn history
  • aglet
    aglet 12 June 2020 12: 51 New
    +1
    "in the Republic of Ingushetia the peoples swore allegiance to the Russian tsar and served faithfully, the same the communists made brothers out of the rest of the peoples, and if you are so worried about the Russian people, vote for the constitution
    Vladimir Putin proposed to enshrine in the Basic Law that the Russian people are state-forming, and the state language is Russian. "

    But will he cancel the Russian article?
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 12 June 2020 15: 43 New
    -2
    Oh, what a poor Russia - the sixth economy in the world in terms of purchasing power from 200 countries. What a monstrous demography you have there - 250000 less are born than they die in a year, so in the 90s every month 150000 more died than they were born. And if we take the statistics for Russia, then in the 1913th, 1000 children were born per 47 population, then in 2019 there were 11 children - in fact, over this entire period of time, the birth rate in Russia was decreasing and the Russian people will not become a national minority in 100 years since a hundred people lived and live.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 12 June 2020 05: 49 New
    +6
    Quote: engineering
    another hundred years will pass, they will be called in another way, this does not change the essence. we stay and will be RUSSIAN

    Your words yes to God in your ears!
    We remain and will remain RUSSIAN, but with such love for the Russian way of life, with such a demographic problem, it may happen that half of the population remains in the country, and part of the country will generally speak Chinese.
    When Suvorov uttered this phrase, his “Science of Winning” enjoyed success. Today in the fashion of "Science to steal" ... I can’t accurately quote the names of the authors.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 12 June 2020 08: 09 New
      -8
      Quote: ROSS 42
      "The science of stealing" ... I can’t accurately quote the names of the authors.

      Something with memory? I will help you!
      Brezhnev Leonid Ilyich.
      Grishin Victor Vasilievich.
      Medunov Sergey Fedorovich
      Ishkov Alexander Akimovich ......... by the way, even Brezhnev could envy his order iconostasis !!!
      Rytov Vladimir Ilyich.
      These people were the founders of "The Science of Thieves"!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Serg65
        Brezhnev Leonid Ilyich.
        Grishin Victor Vasilievich.
        Medunov Sergey Fedorovich

        What Brezhnev stole? He had the whole country ... like now. Is it possible to steal from yourself? About friends, of course. So nothing has changed
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 12 June 2020 08: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          What Brezhnev stole?

          He closed his eyes to all and was sincerely happy to receive bribes in the form of expensive padarkas, and the coolest collection of Galina Brezhneva's bruliks in the USSR was not formed from scratch! In addition, Leonid Ilyich, being the head of the Political Directorate of the Transcarpathian Military District, was noticed in relations with the famous swindler "Colonel" Nikolai Pavlenko!
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 46 New
            +9
            Quote: Serg65
            He turned a blind eye and sincerely rejoiced in bribes in the form of expensive paddock, and the coolest collection in the USSR of brunettes of Galina Brezhneva was not formed from scratch!

            And if you go back today? What has changed? - Nothing! As the princes from the mud began to steer us, buy villas abroad, etc. This is more serious than Galina’s pants! It’s just that the current one doesn’t feel like repeating the fate of Galina, so they are trying to hide behind the new constitution
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 12 June 2020 09: 09 New
              +2
              Quote: Silvestr
              And if you go back today?

              And then the question arises, why change the flea, if the change of power does not bring anything good for the people?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 12 June 2020 09: 14 New
                +6
                Quote: Serg65
                the question arises, why change the flea, if the change of power does not bring anything good for the people?

                Good question! But if you take the quality and standard of living, then the country is very far from the leaders with the wealth that it possesses. Maybe we are such and enter into indecent power? But while there is an opportunity to compare - people are comparing. It is for this reason that Stalin’s renaissance
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 12 June 2020 09: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  It is for this reason that Stalin’s renaissance

                  Where does he take it, the new Stalin? Nature rarely gives such people.
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 12 June 2020 09: 20 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Where does he take it, the new Stalin?

                    Time, he is among us. Waiting in the wings. But much more is needed for its appearance.
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 12 June 2020 09: 44 New
                      -1
                      Blessed is he who believes! I don’t even see a hint of Stalin among the left opposition!
                    2. New Year day
                      New Year day 12 June 2020 15: 38 New
                      0
                      Quote: Serg65
                      I don’t even see a hint of Stalin among the left opposition!

                      he's not there! Do you believe that those who are sitting in drawers have at least some chance? Of course not. Those who are in the shadows always come to power.
  • Fungus
    Fungus 12 June 2020 04: 22 New
    -4
    Happy holiday to all drinks
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 12 June 2020 04: 50 New
    +5
    Here on November 7, I celebrated and my parents also sincerely had fun .. and this "day of independence from the people and the court" is the black day of the calendar.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 12 June 2020 06: 41 New
    -9
    Happy holiday, all of us! Happiness, health, tranquility and good luck!
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 12 June 2020 07: 23 New
    13
    Each date is backed up by something.
    On June 12, US President George W. Bush was born during which the Union collapsed. It was on this day that a referendum on the independence of the RSFSR and the election of Yeltsin were held.
    Yeltsin in honor of such a significant event on this date appointed Independence Day.
    Well, to those who still believe that this day is a holiday

  • Tibul
    Tibul 12 June 2020 07: 26 New
    +3
    The author is sick all head! June 12 is a holiday, and November 7 is a day of sadness. By the way, Yeltsin chose the people, it’s true. That's why he was chosen, although many saw what it was ...? Only in order to remove the Brokeback!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 12 June 2020 08: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: Tibul
      Yeltsin chose the people, that's true. That's why he was chosen

      Personally, I, for the first and only time, voted for him only because he challenged the CPSU. This leading and guiding party of the Trotskyist Communists got it so that there was nowhere to go. These Ukrainians in power brought the country to a pen. They can’t create anything ...
      1. Tibul
        Tibul 12 June 2020 10: 05 New
        +4
        Challenged the CPSU? He, like the rest of the "members" threw out a membership card. It's a challenge? Those who are in power precisely from them only diluted with bandits. Even before the election, he showed that he was going to fight not with the snickering elite that led the country to that situation, but for capitalism. The same Trotskyist-Westerner, only no one expected that he would immediately begin with the sale of Russia, no one expected that he was stupid to such an extent. In the election, candidates - he and Brokeback. Many hoped that he was not so stupid.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 12 June 2020 07: 38 New
    +8
    Shvaboda! Shvaboda! (C) "Your friends, your friends are waiting for you there!" (C) "Do not forget to say, rex, pax, fax and a big money tree will grow" (c) "Come with us to the country of d.uraks" (c) ..... After all this, the proclamation of sovereignty, there was a cry in Russia: Take as much sovereignty as you want!
  • New Year day
    New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 15 New
    +7
    Like it or not, it was with this that the process of the collapse of the USSR began. Personal ambitions and the struggle for power, ignoring the decisions of hundreds of millions of citizens - the main reasons for this
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 12 June 2020 08: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Silvestr
      Like it or not, it was with this that the process of the collapse of the USSR began.

      Much earlier. That was the final point.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 12 June 2020 08: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Silvestr
      it was with this that the process of the collapse of the USSR began.

      The process began much earlier, in my opinion, the "Uzbek case" became the first domino bone.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 12 June 2020 08: 48 New
        +5
        Quote: Serg65
        "Uzbek business" became the first domino bone.

        Because no one wanted to give stolen goods request
        Take someone else’s and not for long, give your own and forever laughing
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 12 June 2020 08: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: Silvestr
          Because no one wanted to give stolen goods

          There was stolen shish yes a penny! The point is even worse than you, Selevstr, think! The Uzbek business was the beginning of the purification of the communists of the old pharmacy from the apparatus of power and the arrival of Andropov’s nest boys to power!
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 12 June 2020 08: 49 New
        -8
        Quote: Serg65
        in my opinion, "Uzbek business" became the first domino bone.

        It all started with Nikita, and preparations for this began during the Second World War ... It was Khrushchev and Brezhnev who knocked out the communists on the war fronts under the slogan: "Communists go ahead!" and recruited new, flexible ones. And they did not sleep in the rear ... By 1952, they noted their superiority in the party by renaming it from the CPSU (b) to the CPSU, showing the whole world in this way: "We are our own, bourgeois. In our abbreviation there is no longer any mention of the Bolsheviks ( b), soon they will not be in power, wait a bit ... ".
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 12 June 2020 09: 03 New
          -1
          Quote: Boris55
          This Khrushchev and Brezhnev knocked out the Communists on the fronts of the war

          laughing Boris, from this perspective .... the question arises .. under what slogan did Stalin knock out the Communists in the 37th?
          Khrushchev during the war was under the dense wing of Stalin, and Colonel-General Major Brezhnev at that time was nothing at all!
          If we plunge into those distant days, then it was the repressions of 37-38 that raised to the top careerists and hangers-on, who, after March 5, 53rd, became at the helm of power ....
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 12 June 2020 09: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Serg65
            and Colonel General Major Brezhnev at that time was nothing at all!

            Have you heard the thread about Malaya Zemlya and the "exploits" of Leonid Ilyich there? And about the Kharkov boiler and Khrushchev's participation in this? They were the ones who recruited people to the "new" party.

            Quote: Serg65
            If we plunge into those distant days, then it was the repressions of 37-38 that raised to the top careerists and hangers-on, who, after March 5, 53rd, became at the helm of power ....

            Then let's dance from the stove.
            The Bolshevik Party, in view of its small number, was not able to rule the country. She was forced to unite with other parties, as a result of which the number of Trotskyists in the party significantly exceeded the Bolsheviks, which today allows the current Trotskyists to blame all their atrocities on the Bolsheviks. Only when Stalin managed to take Beria at the head of the repressive apparatus, the repressions were minimized, but on the ground the control belonged to the Trotskyists, who were hiding behind the Communist party ticket ...

            A couple of pictures about who really arranged the genocide of the Russian people and how power changed depending on the number of party members:


            1. Tibul
              Tibul 12 June 2020 10: 22 New
              +1
              Here you are right! The Trotskyists had real power, and Stalin arranged them as an economic manager-elder. With the coming to power of the Trotskyists with Khrushchev, everyone heard that Stalin was a villain and the people continued to love this villain. The temples were blown up by the Trotskyists, and now you can often hear that it was the villain Stalin. On the radio (in every house and in the squares there were big black speakers, there was no TV), he apologized to the faithful, even though he was an atheist, for the destroyed temples. You can also hear now that Stalin banned the ringing of bells. Lying! Ringing and factory hooters banned Khrushch.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 12 June 2020 11: 00 New
                -1
                Quote: Tibul
                Here you are right! The Trotskyists had real power, and Stalin arranged them as a business manager.

                So you agree to the Martians !!!! Can you confirm your nonsense with anything?

                Quote: Tibul
                The temples were blown up by the Trotskyists, and now you can often hear that it was the villain Stalin. On the radio (in every house and in the squares there were big black speakers, there was no TV), he apologized to the faithful, even though he was an atheist, for the destroyed temples. You can also hear now that Stalin banned the ringing of bells. Lying! Ringing and factory hooters banned Khrushch.

                My dear young friend, give you a denyuzhku for ice cream? Go eat some ice cream!
                1. Tibul
                  Tibul 12 June 2020 11: 14 New
                  0
                  For you, I am not a young friend. I was born under Stalin, the truth was still small to understand something. But I remember well the coming to power of Khrushchev and his rule and his followers. Here in the comments I’m not going to teach you history.
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 12 June 2020 14: 10 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Tibul
                    I was born under Stalin, the truth was still small to understand something. But I remember well the coming to power of Khrushchev

                    Do not remember Stalin, but already 6 months after the death of Stalin, already remember the arrival of Khrushchev ..... you were small smart !!!
              2. poquello
                poquello 13 June 2020 06: 04 New
                0
                Quote: Tibul
                You can also hear now that Stalin banned the ringing of bells. Lying! Ringing and factory hooters banned Khrushch.

                and de hrest on the belly?
                NKVD Top Secret
                We hereby inform you that at the meeting of the ARC (anti-religious commission. - M. L.) on the issue "On the settlement of bell ringing" the following resolution was adopted:
                “Soviet legislation regarding church and religion quite definitely puts forward the provision that the manifestation of the activities of religious organizations should be strictly limited only by the scope of religious confession and worship within the organization itself. This situation logically implies the need for strict restriction of the external ritual and ritual-technical manifestations of the activities of religious organizations, including primarily bell ringing.
                The bell ringing made by the churchmen throughout the given district sharply contradicts the principle of separation of the church from the state, for it affects the living conditions and rights of the broad non-religious masses of the working people, and prevents the working people from using their rest.
                With all these conditions and the demands coming from the culturally grown broad working masses, it is necessary for our government bodies to embark on the application of strictly restrictive and even prohibitive measures in relation to church bells.

                In accordance with our legislation and in the interests of the general public, it is necessary:
                1. Prohibit the completely so-called chime or ringing all the bells.
                2. Allow by the decision of local authorities to ring the small bells, set the weight and at the set time at the request of religious organizations.

                When reducing bell ringing, bells should be removed and transferred to government agencies for use in household needs.
                During these events, local non-governmental organizations are obliged to conduct a wide awareness campaign.

                The indicated decision of the NKVD must be made through the Central Committee.
                Secretary (signature), December 6, 1929 N 118

                http://pravosludm.narod.ru/arxiv/n00402/st13.html
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 12 June 2020 10: 50 New
              +3
              Quote: Boris55
              Have you heard the thread about Malaya Zemlya and the "exploits" of Leonid Ilyich there?

              Not only heard but also talked with participants in those events! They didn’t hear about Lena there ...
              Quote: Boris55
              And about the Kharkov boiler and participation in this Khrushchev?

              And here Nikita had a secondary role ...
              Quote: Boris55
              She was forced to team up with other parties in as a result, the number of Trotskyists in the party significantly exceeded the Bolsheviks

              Ohhh ... this theory collapses completely if you carefully analyze the events from the 17th to the 37th year! Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin, Rykov, Tomsky ... they were the very Bolsheviks !!!!! Or not?
              Trotskyism ... it was Trotsky who organized and executed the October Revolution, it was thanks to Trotsky that the Bolsheviks survived the Civil War ... what was his fault? Only in the fact that he did not agree with Stalin in character ... and that’s all !!!
              The Khrushchevs, Beria, Malenkovs, Mikoyans, Brezhnevs, Andropovs, Chernenkovs, Gorbachevs have nothing to do with Trotsky ..... this is Stalin's product! Stalin’s problem is natural distrust, and on this all these figures played and destroyed competitors in the struggle for a place in the sun ... in the end, the death of the Great Highlander was accelerated! After the death of Stalin, all this jackal flock got into a fight between themselves!
              And who made these pictures? And most importantly for whom? I especially liked the first picture! The author boldly wrote down both Lenin and Dzerzhinsky into the Trotskyists! And I didn’t even think that from 17th to 22nd there was a war and even the terrible famine caused by this war ... good full go .otism !!!!
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 12 June 2020 11: 25 New
                -3
                Quote: Serg65
                Trotsky ..... this is a product of Stalin!

                To begin with, let's define the terms - what is Bolshevism and what is Trotskyism, otherwise each of us will talk about his own and ultimately send each other to where Makar did not drive calves.

                "Trotskyism - This is not at all one of the varieties of Marxism. A characteristic feature of Trotskyism in the communist movement that operated in the 20th century “under the hood” of Marxism was the complete deafness of the Trotskyists to the content of their criticism, combined with their commitment to the principle of suppressing the declarations proclaimed by the Trotskyists in life, the system of defaults on the basis of which they actually act united in a collective unconscious.

                This means that Trotskyism is a psychic phenomenon. Trotskyism, in a sincere personal manifestation of the well-being of its adherents, is characterized by a conflict between the individual consciousness and the unconscious, both individual and collective, generated by all Trotskyists in their totality. And in this conflict the collective unconscious of the Trotskyists viciously triumphs, suppressing the personal conscious well-intentionedness of each of them by the totality of their all.

                This is a feature of the psyche of those who have managed to become a Trotskyist, and not a feature of a particular ideology. The psychic type of “Trotskyist” can be accompanied by a variety of ideologies. It is for this reason - of a purely psychological nature - that equal relations with Trotskyism and Trotskyists personally at the level of intellectual discussion, arguments and counterarguments are fruitless and dangerous for those who view Trotskyism as one of the ideologies and do not see its real AML-ideological background, do not depending on the ideology that encircles it, which the psychotrocist can sincerely repeatedly change throughout his life.

                Intelligence, which is addressed in discussions in an effort to enlighten the interlocutor, or to identify with him the truth, on the basis of which it would be possible to overcome previous problems in relations with him, is only one component of the psyche as a whole. But the psyche as a whole (in the case of its Trotskyite type) does not allow the psycho-Trotskyist to process information intellectually, which is capable of changing the doctrine that is currently being worked out by that of many ideologically formed branches of Trotskyism, to which the psycho-Trotskyist psychologically belongs.

                This psychic trait, characteristic of many individuals, is a historically more ancient phenomenon than the historically real Marxist Trotskyism in the communist movement of the twentieth century. For this property of the psyche of individuals, there was no other word in the past besides the word "obsession." And in the era of the dominance of the materialistic worldview, for this phenomenon there were no words in the language that correspond to the essence of this type of mental impairment, which was called again, but not by its essence, but by the pseudonym of one of its most prominent representatives of Trotskyism in the 20th century communist movement.

                Trotskyism in its essence - a schizophrenic, aggressive, politically active psyche that can hide behind any ideology, any sociological doctrine.
                Therefore, Marxism is originally an expression of psychic Trotskyism. Marx and Engels were psycho-Trotskyists. Hitler was also a psycho-Trotskyist: for the identity of the relation of Hitlerism and Marxism of the Trotsky version to many phenomena of society, see the work of the USSR Supreme Council “Look back in anger ...”. The anti-communist psychologists at the sunset of the USSR were dissidents. And now the majority of activists of bourgeois reforms in Russia and their opponents from the ranks of various patriotic parties and all supposedly communist parties who are not capable of abandoning Marxism are also the psychotrots.

                Bolshevismas the history of the CPSU teaches, arose in 1903 * g. at the II Congress of the RSDLP as one of the party factions. According to his opponents, the Bolsheviks until 1917 * g. never represented the real majority of the members of the Marxist party, and therefore opponents of the Bolsheviks in those years always opposed their self-designation. But such an opinion stemmed from a misunderstanding by the diverse Mensheviks of the essence of Bolshevism.

                Bolshevism - This is not a Russian variety of Marxism and not party affiliation. And the “Jewish Bolshevism" used by Hitler in Mine Campf is completely meaningless, since Bolshevism is a phenomenon of the spirit of Russian civilization, and not the spirit of the bearers of the doctrine of biblical global slavery on a racial basis.
                Bolshevism existed before Marxism, existed in Russian Marxism, somehow it exists today. It will continue to exist.

                As stated by the Bolsheviks themselves, members of the Marxist party of the RSDLP * (b), it was they who expressed in politics the strategic interests of the working majority of the population of multinational Russia, as a result of which only they had the right to be called Bolsheviks. Regardless of how infallible the Bolsheviks are in expressing the strategic interests of the labor majority, how much this majority is aware of its strategic interests and true to them in life, the essence of Bolshevism is not the numerical superiority of the adherents of certain ideas over the adherents of other ideas and the thoughtless crowd, namely this:
                in a sincere desire to express and implement the long-term strategic interests of the labor majority, who want no one to parasitize on their work and life. In other words, historically, in every epoch, the essence of Bolshevism is in active support of the transition process from the historically established crowd of “elitism” to the multinational humanity of the Earth of the future era. "
          2. poquello
            poquello 12 June 2020 14: 13 New
            -1
            Quote: Serg65
            it was the repressions of 37-38 years that raised to the top of careerists and hangers-on

            mm, and Ivashutin for example?
        2. Pilot
          Pilot 12 June 2020 09: 52 New
          +6
          Quote: Boris55
          there is no longer any mention of the Bolsheviks (b), soon they will not be in power either, wait a bit ... ".
          belay What do you use, what do you see in the power of the Bolsheviks? wassat The former kapesesnikov there in bulk, but what side are they to the Bolsheviks? request
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 12 June 2020 10: 18 New
            -2
            Quote: Pilot
            What do you use, what do you see in the power of the Bolsheviks?

            I spoke about the renaming of the CPSU (B.) In the CPSU. It happened in 1952. I'm not talking about today, I'm talking about what happened. The current Bolsheviks have no relation whatsoever.

            Bolshevik in power is Putin. He, in those conditions and with the environment that is, how he can defend the interests of the majority.
            1. Pilot
              Pilot 12 June 2020 10: 33 New
              +4
              Quote: Boris55
              Bolshevik in power is Putin. He, in those conditions and with the environment that is, how he can defend the interests of the majority.
              wassat I have no more questions! fool
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 12 June 2020 11: 34 New
                -5
                Quote: Pilot
                I have no more questions!

                Who are the Bolsheviks-see the definition of the post above.
        3. aglet
          aglet 12 June 2020 14: 16 New
          +1
          "It was Khrushchev and Brezhnev who knocked out the communists on the war fronts"
          and Khrushchev, and Brezhnev, in those days were small fry, they could not throw such cries of the people. under this slogan, real communists went into battle, they did not need orders
    3. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 10: 20 New
      -4
      The process of decay has begun since Brezhnev’s time. The merging of power and crime occurred in the reign of Brezhnev.
  • georggy
    georggy 12 June 2020 08: 26 New
    +6
    THIS IS NOT A HOLIDAY! IT'S A SHAME,
  • Boris55
    Boris55 12 June 2020 08: 32 New
    +3
    I do not consider June 12 a holiday, and is it possible to consider the day of the death of the USSR as such ...



    A remarkable picture at the beginning of the article. It’s not a secret for anyone that both near the Kremlin wall and in it the best people of our land (mostly) are buried. In Soviet times, Red Square wasn’t allowed to talk loudly ...
    1. Magog
      Magog 12 June 2020 20: 40 New
      +1
      on Red Square they didn’t even allow loud conversation
      In the same place, "Execution Ground" is located, that is, the stylized place of Christ's execution within the framework of the religious idea "Moscow - the Third Rome" / New Jerusalem ... And the ROC calmly looks at this Sabbath! Dancing and celebration on the bones / in the cemetery ... I'm not gloating - that's how it works!
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 12 June 2020 08: 36 New
    +6
    Yesterday I asked my elderly mother if she would celebrate tomorrow. She couldn't remember what kind of holiday it was. And then when he told her, she replied: "Oh, this one ... we used to prepare for the holidays in advance, but now it is ..."
  • Van 16
    Van 16 12 June 2020 08: 45 New
    +6
    By and large, just another day off. Yesterday there was such a traffic jam from the city - it’s some kind of horror, I haven’t seen this for a long time, people rushed to the nature and gardens))
  • AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 12 June 2020 08: 55 New
    -3
    Russia Day is November 2 - the foundation day of the Russian Empire. Here it is necessary to celebrate it, and not this day of the collapse of the country by the Communists.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 12 June 2020 09: 00 New
    +3
    An idiotic "holiday". Day of shame. By the way, in our city the inscription on the screens "June 12 - Day of Russia" was made by some alternatively gifted or color-blind person, since the inscription is made against the background of the flag in blue letters with a partial outline, so it clearly reads: June 12, Russia's laziness.
  • Δεγραδ-Οτραδ
    Δεγραδ-Οτραδ 12 June 2020 10: 36 New
    +6
    Celebrating the death of the greatest nation in history. It is immediately obvious for whom our "elites" fought in the Great Patriotic War.
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 12 June 2020 10: 46 New
    -6
    Quote: Tibul
    Hurray patriots cause dislike in many normal people. .

    And rightly so ... you just have to be a patriot ...
    If this is a holiday for you, celebrate, no one will say a word to you, but do not let your cockroaches out of the head.

    First, let them say in the teeth and get, some more to me fool fool they will give advice on which holidays to celebrate and which not ... secondly, watch your cockroaches, unlike you, they remember your inactivity very well when your party members and comrades broke up the Union and now smile at what you write here .. .
  • Tomich3
    Tomich3 12 June 2020 10: 49 New
    +1
    same comments every year
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 12 June 2020 12: 43 New
    0
    It would be better if we celebrated "Carnival" on this day like in Rio, there would be more positive and the meaning of such a holiday would be more understandable to ordinary people ..
  • Radikal
    Radikal 12 June 2020 13: 18 New
    +5
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: lexus
    After this event, a different, good and honest life began. "

    appeared "lace panties"?

    And they were not translated from individual representatives. For example, recently publicly awarded .... lol wassat
    1. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2020 14: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Radikal
      For example, recently publicly awarded ..

      man's envy does not do better, well this is an overture
      Quote: Radikal
      And they were not translated from individual representatives

      ett does not matter, it is important that during a violent change of power, anarchy and arbitrariness usually reign
  • AleBors
    AleBors 12 June 2020 13: 31 New
    +3
    Another anniversary from the moment when they started to destroy us ...
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 12 June 2020 14: 06 New
    +4
    He returned from work, watching the news, a question arose. Well, honestly, tell gentlemen / comrades 60-70, or even 80th birthday - who celebrates, though not at the table, but in the soul, experiences, if not elevation, then just the feeling of a holiday? ...

    I am not ashamed to admit - I do not know by heart the words of the words of the Anthem. Like many of my colleagues, I walked past the Vlasov flag hung upside down for a week without noticing it. It’s not because I don’t like the Motherland, my people, but how to say, well, it didn’t enter my heart, the characters who stood behind all this and all that they created were disagreeable and disgusting to me. They accepted one thing, argued one thing, on state documents and institutions do not understand that either the imperial eagle, or without crowns, etc., well, at least the heads do not print beak to beak, merged into a gay kiss.
    The very name of the Russian Federation is not mine, not to my heart, instead of the unitary state of RUSSIA, and the provinces according to the economic principle, and cultural autonomies where they want it, the federation does not understand who and with what.
    I’m not idle, the youth still know, but the main reason for them to hang out was they were the same, but they wouldn’t tell me so by box or radio that I wouldn’t know another holiday ... We stayed from the USSR - New Year, 23 February 8, March XNUMX, Easter was not bypassed in his family and in the USSR, Parents' Day (Radonitsa), Victory Day, Day of the kind of troops and everything else was stolen, then only the birthdays of loved ones.
    1. Alexfly
      Alexfly 12 June 2020 18: 27 New
      +2
      and you are most likely absolutely right ...
    2. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2020 19: 35 New
      -1
      Quote: Sarkazm
      Remained from the USSR - New Year,

      no wonder for someone who calls the Russian tricolor Vlasov one, "Life has become better. Life has become more fun," Stalin said in 1935 and allowed the Christmas tree banned in 1927
    3. Magog
      Magog 12 June 2020 20: 06 New
      0
      Remained from the USSR - New Year, February 23, March 8 ...
      "New Year" is against the rules of Orthodoxy: we ought to fast before the Nativity of Christ, and we - Orthodox Christians - wash down the Russian salad "Olivier" with champagne; "February 23" - the defeat of the Red Guards by the Germans and the shameful flight of the "workers' militia", and we are celebrating "Defender of the Fatherland Day"; "March 8" is practically a Jewish holiday "Purim" and a celebration of the massacre of "Persians" - according to the Bible - but in fact the description of "oprichnina in Russia of the 16th century", headed by Elena Voloshanka / Moldovan woman - a secret Jew - she is also biblical Esther. Such is the "Day of women and mothers". Etc. on "historical" myths and holidays. "Easter": the main slogan concerns the "Resurrection of the Savior", but the fact that it is just the Feast of Spring - New Year - Sowing, etc., the church somehow does not advertise. It's just that once the execution of Christ COINCIDED with Easter ... On "Victory Day" one should not hold magnificent parades, but go to the mass graves to bow to our dead soldiers, remember everyone in "moments of silence", drink a glass to commemorate the ruined souls, and so on "to drown out the bitterness of tears" for the dead, but the remains of many thousands (if not millions!) annually on the former battlefields to collect and solemnly bury - then and sooner this Great Patriotic War will end ... "The Last Fallen Soldier" will not soon be buried with such the practice of the Victory Day!
  • Revival
    Revival 12 June 2020 14: 20 New
    +2
    What is the article about?
    Something about nothing
  • tatra
    tatra 12 June 2020 16: 29 New
    +2
    All these "days of independence" are a holiday of the separatists, moreover, the cowardly ones. They divided the USSR among themselves, and did it out of fear, and for 30 years they cowardly dump the blame for their dismemberment of the USSR on the Soviet communists. But still they celebrate every year under the spell "we won our freedom and independence." And "Day of Russia" is a stupid name. It's as if every country has a Country Day.
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 12 June 2020 17: 36 New
    +4
    I remember 12.06.91/04.11/XNUMX well. He arrived by appointment at the service (the day before he clarified whether they would work), and there was a watchman who explained that the lads from the mayor's office had arrived for the opening with the words: "If you work, you have a khan!" Here is such a parsley! And "this" holiday ?! I'm not talking about XNUMX (what is it called correctly ???) - this is generally far beyond common sense.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 12 June 2020 17: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Radikal
    For example, recently publicly awarded ..

    man's envy does not do better, well this is an overture
    Quote: Radikal
    And they were not translated from individual representatives

    ett does not matter, it is important that during a violent change of power, anarchy and arbitrariness usually reign

    When I was posting a comment, I immediately calculated your primitive answer - mind you, here on the site none of my like-minded people ever mentions this glamorous, guipure-lurex "theme", and it is not at all surprising to me that this is just what your party is different, apparently this question is for it, including for you, is very relevant. lol As for the second, musical part of your ... post, anarchy and arbitrariness have not ceased in the country since 1991, though the forms have become more hidden and sophisticated, although it also happened as in the photo of the episode from the beautiful film. Curiously, when were you watching this movie, which side were you on? winked Who are closer to you from heroes and other characters? wassat
    1. tatra
      tatra 12 June 2020 17: 58 New
      +2
      Enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR proved that for the sake of profit they are ready to pretend that they are FOR someone or something. As a huge number of them during the Soviet era, they pretended to be FOR the Communists. And in order to be AGAINST someone or something, they are ready to be FOR anyone and anything, just as they are in order to be against the Communists, they were FOR the last Russian monarch, FOR interventionists, Nazis, collaborators of the Civil and the Great Patriotic War.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 12 June 2020 21: 07 New
        -3
        Don’t worry, you red mutants will soon disappear and with you all these representatives of the former CPSU who corrupt banditry, hackerism and other things in Russia have been bred in the center and in the localities since the 60s.
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 June 2020 23: 19 New
          -1
          Quote: Vadim237
          Don’t worry, you red mutants will soon disappear and with you all these representatives of the former CPSU who corrupt banditry, hackerism and other things in Russia have been bred in the center and in the localities since the 60s.

          this is in the course of the reincarnation of Novodvorskaya with the opposite charge, Ampilov smokes
    2. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2020 19: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: Radikal
      When I posted a comment, I immediately calculated your primitive answer

      really? and how was Solomin awarded? By the way, "Hero of Labor" and not lace panties
      Quote: Radikal
      anarchy and arbitrariness do not stop in the country since 1991

      I sympathize with you, have not you tried a doctor?
  • evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
    evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 12 June 2020 18: 02 New
    +6
    The author does not distinguish ,, state ,, from ,, country ,,. States come and go, Russia remains.
    ,, Holiday ,, June 12 - a holiday for the destroyers of Russia. Internal and external. This is the undoubted defeat of Russia. This is how they perceived and perceive, for example, the foreign experts involved, who even issued a medal in this regard - ,, For victory in the ,, cold ,, war ,,.
    To date, the Russians do not have their INDEPENDENT state. Quasi-state ,, Capitalist Russia ,, - non-viable ,, education ,,, semi-colony of the West. “A raw materials appendage,” as US President Clinton put it a quarter century ago. Sorry, but it is.
    ... Soldiers and officers of the German regiment, Brandenburg, specializing in Russia, wore Soviet uniforms most of their time. But on the other hand, and from this they did not become. And this is a great example of inconsistency, form and content ,,. For those who want to understand, in the holidays,
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 12 June 2020 18: 10 New
    +3
    Anyway gentlemen, but I always wanted to become a citizen of Russia. And in the end (one way or another) he became one.
    With what I personally congratulate you!
    I became a citizen of Russia quite deliberately (you see what’s the matter). And not just at the place of birth. My place of birth was at one time dissociated from the Russian Federation (without asking me). Then they called it a foreigner, well, and Khokhl to the heap.
    I am not a patriot ur. But I have something to compare. There are tons of questions. There is an understanding, not all at once.
    Nevertheless, in general, I am glad that I have Russian citizenship.
    Russia is mine. The rest is from the evil one.
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly 12 June 2020 18: 24 New
    +2
    Sorry, but this day is not a holiday .. Although, thanks for the weekend ..
  • Magog
    Magog 12 June 2020 19: 23 New
    +1
    It is believed that the Declaration on State Sovereignty of the RSFSR was the impetus for the collapse of the USSR. But let's face it. ... In order to prevent complete chaos and anarchy, the leadership of the RSFSR assumed the role of the union center, preserving the country, although letting the union republics that decided to go their own way into free navigation.
    The author's logic is off scale! This is called: "we see what is ordered!" June 12, 1990 is the mournful date of the beginning of the actual collapse of the USSR. And June 22, 1941 - the collapse of the very idea of ​​the Soviet Union ...
  • Radikal
    Radikal 12 June 2020 21: 46 New
    -1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Radikal
    When I posted a comment, I immediately calculated your primitive answer

    really? and how was Solomin awarded? By the way, "Hero of Labor" and not lace panties
    Quote: Radikal
    anarchy and arbitrariness do not stop in the country since 1991

    I sympathize with you, have not you tried a doctor?

    My dear - you have a continuous stream of consciousness, it would be time for you to take care of this issue yourself. lol
    1. poquello
      poquello 12 June 2020 23: 30 New
      -2
      Quote: Radikal
      Quote: poquello
      Quote: Radikal
      When I posted a comment, I immediately calculated your primitive answer

      really? and how was Solomin awarded? By the way, "Hero of Labor" and not lace panties
      Quote: Radikal
      anarchy and arbitrariness do not stop in the country since 1991

      I sympathize with you, have not you tried a doctor?

      My dear - you have a continuous stream of consciousness, it would be time for you to take care of this issue yourself. lol

      I even wondered if the words "pussy, ass, toilet" are obscene for you? tell us about anarchy and arbitrariness "have not stopped since 1991"
  • Radikal
    Radikal 12 June 2020 22: 02 New
    +3
    Quote: Vadim237
    Don’t worry, you red mutants will soon disappear and with you all these representatives of the former CPSU who corrupt banditry, hackerism and other things in Russia have been bred in the center and in the localities since the 60s.

    Vlasov-Hitler darling from your words pulled .... Those, too, communists, Bolsheviks, underground and partisans were called bandits. And you probably call yourself the heir of the winners, but accidentally do not hold the bandage of a policeman under your pillow? sad
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 12 June 2020 22: 48 New
    +2

    In our country, the main public holiday

    In our country, the main holidays are Victory Day and New Year.
    And on June 12, the whole country celebrates my call to the SA (12.06.91/XNUMX/XNUMX.) laughing
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 12 June 2020 23: 58 New
    -1
    Quote: poquello
    Quote: Sarkazm
    Remained from the USSR - New Year,

    no wonder for someone who calls the Russian tricolor Vlasov one, "Life has become better. Life has become more fun," Stalin said in 1935 and allowed the Christmas tree banned in 1927
    It's about the celebration of the New Year, and not about Christmas, or the Christmas tree in general as an attribute and symbol of this holiday.

    You mentioned I.V. Stalin, well, he not only returned the tree, but for example morality, and morality, and family, and marriage, etc., etc. After 1917, some comrades not only blasphemed the Christmas tree, but also marriage, everywhere there were slogans "Down with shame!" In such a way, Stalin restored the institution of the family, "socializers", someone socialized one in a crowd, then then in batches he shot others, some to the wall, and whom he sent to wave ...
    Well, that's the way.
    1. poquello
      poquello 13 June 2020 00: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Sarkazm
      Quote: poquello
      Quote: Sarkazm
      Remained from the USSR - New Year,

      no wonder for someone who calls the Russian tricolor Vlasov one, "Life has become better. Life has become more fun," Stalin said in 1935 and allowed the Christmas tree banned in 1927
      It's about the celebration of the New Year, and not about Christmas, or the Christmas tree in general as an attribute and symbol of this holiday.

      You remembered I.V. Stalin, well, he not only returned the Christmas tree, but for example, morality, morality, family, marriage, etc., etc. After 1917, some comrades not only blasphemed the tree ...

      difficult years of rule to see your favorite hero? Stalin at the helm since 1924, with this tree banned
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 13 June 2020 00: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Magog
    On "Victory Day" one should not hold magnificent parades, but go to mass graves to bow to our dead soldiers, remember everyone in "moments of silence", drink a glass to remember the ruined souls and so "drown out the bitterness of tears" for the dead, and the remains of many thousands (if not millions!) annually to collect and solemnly bury on the former battlefields - then this Great Patriotic War will end sooner ... "The Last Fallen Soldier" will not be buried soon with such a practice of the Victory Day!
    In general, I agree, the parades began under Brezhnev, as did the decay of the USSR in general.

    I don’t agree only about the ruined souls, who fought, who died innocent - they didn’t commit a sin to ruin their souls, on the contrary, their souls are clean, and who atone for many sins and saved their soul ...
    1. Magog
      Magog 13 June 2020 11: 34 New
      0
      About "ruined souls" we can agree with you. But on the eve of the invasion, the country famously chanted "If there is war tomorrow." "On the woe to all bourgeoisie, we will fan the world fire!" - how to deal with it? Well, etc. So the souls are different - someone is bright, who simply defended the right to live on their land ...
  • Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 13 June 2020 17: 52 New
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    Quote: Magog
    "On the woe to all bourgeoisie, we will fan the world fire!" - how to deal with it? Well, etc.
    As with any HISTORY. He wrote a little higher, everything changed with the advent of Stalin and the strengthening of his influence, the alignment of the people of his team. And the stronger Stalin stood on his feet, the less downhill was given to the descent. I’m not mentioning a Stalinist, I’m just trying to see history and people as they are, and not judge by imposed stereotypes.

    Quote: Magog
    So different souls turn out - someone has bright ones who simply defended the right to live on their land ...
    And there is.