The deadlines for testing the upgraded Ka-52M

The development and testing of the first prototypes of the modernized Ka-52M Alligator helicopter with new weapons will be completed by the end of 2022. According to the government procurement portal, the National Center for Helicopter Engineering named after Mil and Kamov placed an order for the manufacture and testing of two prototypes of the Ka-52M, created on the basis of serial machines.

According to the document, the finalization of production vehicles in a modernized version should be completed by the end of 2020, followed by preliminary flight and joint state tests. During the modernization, the helicopter will receive new airborne systems: navigation, sighting, fire control and communications systems, as well as new weapons. At the same time, the car will retain the previous glider, but will acquire additional fuel tanks.

The full test program should be completed in September 2022. In total, it is planned to get into service 114 modernized helicopters.

The creation of a new version of the Ka-52 helicopter became known in 2018. According to the CEO of Russian Helicopters Holding Andrei Boginsky, the Ministry of Defense, having studied the experience of using helicopters in combat conditions in the Syrian Arab Republic, set the designers to create a modernized version that would take into account the proposals of the flight and engineering personnel participating in the battles.

As previously repeatedly reported, unlike its predecessor, the Ka-52 helicopter, the upgraded Ka-52M received enhanced armor and a new airborne defense system that protects the machine from anti-aircraft missiles. Armament was unified with another rotorcraft - Mi-28NM. The Ka-52M arsenal will include long-range Hermes-A missiles, guided by Vikhr-M anti-tank missiles, as well as Product 305 - aviation cruise missile with a range of up to 100 km.

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[Doccor18]

The Ka-52M received enhanced armor and a new airborne defense system that protects the machine from anti-aircraft missiles ...

The Ka-52M arsenal will include Hermes-A long-range missiles, Vikhr-M guided anti-tank missiles, as well as Product 305, an aircraft cruise missile with a range of up to 100 km.

A strong air fighter will work.

[Titus_2]

So yes ... the main thing that they unify with the Milyavites .... accordingly, the price will decrease. It’s just that some moths of Mil and Sukhoi, such as why we need to be inconsistent ... will blow ourselves up ... And so many engineering personnel have been lost so few and closing the design bureau for a moment and Kamov is a very bad decision.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Doccor18

A strong air fighter will work.

Rather, the sturdy air fighter will still intensify.

[Bad_gr]

"..... New navigation and sighting systems will be installed on the modified vehicles, as well as a fire control system and a communications complex. In addition, it is reported that the Alligator is interfaced with a new cruise missile. It appears under the name" product 305 ". the cost of the work is estimated at about 153,5 million rubles ...
..According to some reports, the Ka-52M helicopter will receive a new radar B006 “Rezets” with an active phased antenna array (AFAR). This radar has 640 transceiver modules. The capabilities of the Alligator airborne locator will be as follows: the detection range of the tank is 45 km, the ship of the destroyer type is 150 km, the fighter is 50 km, the helicopter (subject to slow speed and hovering) is 20 km.
...... Also on the Alligator during the upcoming modernization will be installed optoelectronic sighting system OES-52. It has already been installed on Ka-52 helicopters, which were exported to Egypt. The Russian development was created on the model of the French, manufactured by Safran, which was equipped with a Tiger attack helicopter. OES-52 contains five sensors - a thermal imaging camera and a television camera, a laser tracker, a range finder and a pointer for ATGMs.
..... As for the light multi-purpose guided missile (LMUR, “product 305”), information about these weapons began to appear a year ago. It is believed that promising tactical missiles with multi-range homing heads and bispectral infrared sensors are the key to the success of strike operations of promising army aviation.
...... There is evidence that the “305 product” is equipped with a highly sensitive multispectral optoelectronic homing head using not only a semi-active laser and TV / photo contrast sensors, but also a dual-band matrix IR photodetector (medium and long-wave IR ranges) : 3-5 and 8-13 microns respectively).
.... This missile can attack an object selected for destruction in the “let-forget” mode, and in a difficult jamming environment, which will noticeably unload the pilot and navigator.
.... "Product 305" is capable of attacking ground / surface targets at a distance of up to 25 km (in some sources the range and 100 km is called) with diving angles of more than 60-70 degrees. This will allow helicopter crews not to enter the affected areas of short-range and short-range anti-aircraft missile systems, such as Avenger, IM-SHORAD, VL-MICA and Spider-SR.
...... It is believed that the domestic "product 305" significantly surpasses a similar American missile type JAGM (Joint Air-to-Ground Missile). It is assumed that this missile in the US will completely replace the existing AGM-114 Hellfire and Tou anti-tank missiles, as well as the AGM-65 Mayverik general-purpose guided missiles. The carriers of the new JAGM products will be aircraft, helicopters and shock unmanned aerial vehicles.
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2020/06/11/13114747.shtml

[Threaded screw]

What is a modern helicopter without a sub-radar station ??? Absurd

[Zaurbek]

He has it .... only not supratulmonary, but in the bow. By plane

[Threaded screw]

He has it .... only not supratulmonary, but in the bow.

Thanks, Cap! I wrote without overhead radar. Need to explain why it is needed there?

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

I wrote without a sub-radar station. Need to explain why it is needed there?

Yes, explain. And then in the age of drones it is not clear why.

[Threaded screw]

Suddenly he will need to fly not only over the sea surface or God forbid to take cover and not to go blind!

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

take cover and not go blind!

Here supra-muzzle will not help you at all. Too many miracles have been attributed to her.
If you want to secretly bring / steer a helicopter - use external means of reconnaissance and control.

[Threaded screw]

If you want to secretly bring / steer a helicopter - use external means of reconnaissance and control.

It turns out that there are some fools in the world, including Mil) who finally, though not long ago, came in a sub-bus radar station. Kamovtsy go their own way soon because of the coaxial screw.

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

It turns out in the world some fools, including Mil

There was then a need. The order for the opening of the topic was signed, funding was allocated, done, reported. Now nobody needs it.

[Threaded screw]

There was then a need.

What now? All enemies are dead?

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

What now? All enemies are dead?

Now the battlefield is full of UAV scouts.

[Threaded screw]

Now the battlefield is full of UAV scouts.

Have you heard about dronopad? We make the best quality weapons the best in the world, which should not just come out victorious among equals, but out of 3 world ones (you can’t lower the bar). The helicopter should be able to independently conduct reconnaissance (especially considering the saturation of the Russian UAV army), hiding behind objects on the ground (houses, trees, hills), exposing only a block of sensors above them, and flying in envelope mode without blinding. IMHO.

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

Have you heard about dronopad?

Change "drono" not "verto" and everything in your head will settle down. The loss of a UAV is much cheaper and without casualties and is more difficult to shoot down than a helicopter (small and invisible).

[Threaded screw]

Change "drono" not "verto"

Does not change. How can they be equated in general?

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

Does not change. How can they be equated in general?

A problem with linguistics? Russian is not your native?

[Threaded screw]

A problem with linguistics? Russian is not your native?

When a person says that the UAV and the helicopter are the same thing, it’s not in the language, but in the head.

[Genry]

Quote: Threaded screw

When a person says that the UAV and the helicopter are the same thing, it’s not in the language, but in the head.

Your problems...
I look at the tasks performed and the possibilities for their implementation.
Helicopter as a weapon platform is good. But for intelligence - a good target because of its size.
UAVs, in terms of visibility, are commensurate with the dimensions of the supra-muzzle radar and reflects the signal much less.

[Zaurbek]

Most likely they could not post. Most likely, the question is important: is there a radar or not. Than in the nose or over the screw.

[5-9]

Above the 2 screws, the radar can not be placed in any way. Actual use has shown that the removal of the radar 2 meters up is mono-descriptive.

[bayard]

At the Ka-52, it is more powerful - it sees further, it can direct weapons, and if you need to look around you - spin around its axis, you will see everything. This is not difficult for a co-pilot, even continuing to fly in one direction.

[Zaurbek]

In view of unification, they will put the same

[bayard]

Radar ?!
It's impossible .
And no need.
Ka-52 radar will always be better, but with a sectoral review.
And the Mi-28 sub-muzzle radar will almost never be turned on - this is instant unmasking. Self-illumination.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Zaurbek

Most likely they could not post. Most likely, the question is important: is there a radar or not. Than in the nose or over the screw.

Most likely, dear, it is necessary to consider the actions of the strike complexes in the compartment, including the A-50 data of ground-based radars, etc. Here, then, citizens will not ask stupid questions, on which they did not put the scope to the Alligator.

[Zaurbek]

Dear, army aviation is only part of the Russian Aerospace Forces, in the USSR and in the United States it is subordinate to the ground forces .... and must be able to autonomously search for and destroy targets. Development trends can be seen in the latest versions of Apache. Radar and pairing with UAVs. And the inclusion of 3rd generation ATGM weapons.

[abc_alex]

Quote: Threaded screw

It turns out that there are some fools in the world, including Mil) who finally, though not long ago, came in a sub-bus radar station. Kamovtsy go their own way soon because of the coaxial screw.

Here you are categorically wrong.
For starters, the Mi-28 and Ka-50 are machines designed according to the ideology of the 70s. Then there were no radars for helicopters and did not even dream of. An OLS or multi-channel aiming and navigation system was what was done for both machines.
Based on the combat experience gained in Afghanistan by Mi-24 helicopters, Milevtsians immediately decided to put a rotary artillery mount on the car. Kamovtsy experience of shock machines for the aircraft did not have, and therefore went on the path to a better engineering decisions and the gun made virtually motionless. But they placed it close to the center of mass.

As a result, the Mi-28's nose is not just full, it is loaded (by mass) and experiences vibrations and heavy loads during firing. That is, it’s difficult to put a radar there, nowhere and it will shake. Apache has the same thing. The radar and the gun are not friends near. Yes, and without a gun in the nose and Mi-28 a lot of things are installed.
The radar above the bushing is not done out of trickery and not for "jumping out from behind houses and hills." And if the Mi-28 had a free nose, the designers would have installed the radar there. Yes, there is an antenna. Only small. The very "nose" is the antenna of the UR guidance station.

[a.hamster55]

Totally agree with you! Loving radar glows with its radiation like a Christmas tree. But some need to have - being away from the main group ...

[5-9]

And do not be shy, explain ..... and at the same time tell us how these book-toy explanations worked in the real world and why in the USA they abandoned hanging tactics ...

[Zaurbek]

Have they refused?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Threaded screw

Need to explain why it is needed there?

And you cap, you need to explain that attack helicopters go in groups? And with what a cross, did you decide that this group cannot consist of both Hunters and Alligators together? And who banned data transfer?
At the same time, in serious databases, there is a locator that is more powerful than the helicopter’s sphere above the propellers. This is A-50U.

[Aqr009]

What is a modern helicopter without a sub-radar station ??? Absurd

Yes, there he has these stations as .... Both in the bow and on the roof of the cabin, and above the hub, and under the bottom (optoelectronic suppression station), and in the tail part (laser irradiation detection station and ultraviolet direction finder of missile launch).
Plus, in the cockpit there is a TV on which, in live broadcast, the image of the surrounding panorama from a high-altitude drone is broadcast (possibly in 4K)

[Evdokim]

Quote: pmkemcity

Shame! Where are the sliders?

What are you talking about? Or just pissed under?

[rocket757]

"Smarter", faster, higher ... toothy, for military equipment this is not just a designation of characteristics, it is an opportunity to WIN!

[Vechernick]

And what, did they finally abandon ideas about over-the-body radar and / or optoelectronic (television, infrared, thermal imaging channels) equipment?

[RUSLAN]

I wonder how heavy he is and how it will affect his LTH?

[CommanderDIVA]

"The arsenal of the Ka-52M will include long-range missiles" Hermes-A ", guided anti-tank" Vikhr-M ", as well as" product 305 "- an aircraft cruise missile with a range of up to 100 km" - from all this arsenal there is something according to the principle "shot - forgot", if there are specialists in this area on the site, please comment pliz

[Nikolaevich I]

Oh, they promised something a lot! But popular wisdom says: promise to marry ... does not mean to sign in the act of registration of marriage! (complaint of Madame Gritsatsueva ...)

[Genry]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

from all this arsenal there is something on the principle of "fire and forget"

Shot and forgot very slowly captures the target. During this time, the guided missile will reach the target.

[5-9]

first and third ... but depends on the GOS, they will be different

[abc_alex]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

The Ka-52M arsenal will include Hermes-A long-range missiles, Vikhr-M guided anti-tank missiles, as well as Product 305, an aircraft cruise missile with a range of up to 100 km.

Most likely, of all the above, only "305" will actually be. She has a seeker, but, of course, not up to 100 km. The helicopter simply won't aim at such a distance.

[Pvi1206]

loves power to appoint timelines ... and then postpone ... it’s good there is someone to blame ... so that it would do without sanctions?! ...

[Angelo Provolone]

.............

[5-9]

The armament was unified with another rotorcraft, the Mi-28NM. The arsenal of the Ka-52M will include the Hermes-A long-range missiles and the Vikhr-M anti-tank guided missiles

Once again I meet this phrase ... On the Mi-28 they screwed the Whirlwind ???? Earlier, there were attempts on the contrary to fasten the attack on the Ka-52, because the serial production of the Whirlwind-1 was disrupted.
Hermes in real life, who saw the thread under the turntables? What and how with him ??? ... have been waiting for a long time

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 5-9

Earlier, there were attempts on the contrary to fasten the attack on the Ka-52, because the serial production of the Whirlwind-1 was disrupted.

"Kalashnikov" disrupted not the serial production of "Whirlwinds", but the terms under the 2013 contract. That is, he launched the series, but too late - and was late with the delivery of the order, EMNIP, by six months.

[abc_alex]

Quote: 5-9

Once again I meet this phrase ... On the Mi-28 they screwed the Whirlwind ???? Earlier, there were attempts on the contrary to fasten the attack on the Ka-52, because the serial production of the Whirlwind-1 was disrupted.
Hermes in real life, who saw the thread under the turntables? What and how with him ??? ... have been waiting for a long time

Not an attempt. And the military’s categorical demand for Kamovtsans to be installed on the Sturm-V car. So the Ka-52 flies with Sturm. The whirlwind remained a low-volume model, and in my opinion, no one took Hermes-A in general. And all this is not necessary. Missiles from Chrysanthemums and new missiles based on aircraft will go to the new Mi-28NM. Against their background, Whirlwind and Hermes no longer look. And since they will be on the Mi-28, then after some time they will be on the Ka-52. Maybe even at the same time.

[Ros 56]

Cool as a result, the car will turn out, then the adversaries will be delighted, even striped.