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Where the Ukrainian "Spartan" was blown up: oddities of the statement of the OOS press service

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The Ukrainian military published a report on the loss of their Spartan armored car. The messages indicate that the armored car blew up "on an unidentified explosive device."


The area of ​​the Palace of Culture of the coke-chemical plant Avdeevka is indicated as a place of detonation. At the same time, no infrastructure is visible on the photo.

It is important to note the fact that this area is under the control of the armed forces of Ukraine and other power forces of this country, including nationalist battalions.

From this we can conclude that the “Spartan” could have been blown up by a mine, which was previously installed by the Ukrainian security forces themselves. This assumption is also supported by the fact that earlier the Ukrainian military itself complained about the frequent absence of minefield maps created earlier by other units. It was also pointed out that during rotation some formations of Ukraine try to sell such cards to others with an indication of the location of mines.

According to the photo published by the office of the Attorney General, one can judge the nature of the damage to Spartan: the cabin withstood the blast wave, the front part is rotated by the explosion. The press service of the so-called DUS at the same time refers to "10 soldiers injured." The power of the explosive device is not reported, as well as where exactly 10 victims were located.

Also, judging by the photo, you can pay attention to such a strange thing: the APU armored car is not on the road, but in the field. And it is unlikely that she was thrown back there by an explosion. It is likely that it was along the field on which Ukrainian mines stood that Spartan was led by its driver. There are a lot of questions on the photo. Including the one about which "district of the Palace of Culture" is it?

The Ukrainian prosecutor’s office is investigating the incident in the territory controlled by the AFU.
Photos used:
Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 10 June 2020 09: 09
    +8
    Where the Ukrainian "Spartan" was blown up
    : "The Reds crashed, our Grinya!" (Elusive)
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 09: 20
      +3
      what "area of ​​the Palace of Culture" are we talking about?


      And who are their dill, fool knows? One can only assume that this is the name of the position, the opornik.

      What we have, what they have, when assigning a name to a position, it is sometimes observedtaaaaaaaaaaaa flight of creativity"that you don't understand where this name came from what yes
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 10 June 2020 09: 42
        0
        I saw a photo from a different angle, there is a road nearby, as if the muzzle was thrown to the right of the road by an explosion.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 June 2020 09: 46
          0
          Quote: neri73-r
          I saw a photo from a different angle, there is a road nearby, as if the muzzle was thrown to the right of the road by an explosion.

          I don’t know what’s from a different perspective, but even in this photo there are clearly visible clods of a freshly torn up explosion of TM - 62 (?) Land under the body ...
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 10 June 2020 09: 47
            -2
            Quote: Insurgent
            land under the body ...

            And what on the primer in the field can still be?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 10 June 2020 09: 50
              -1
              Quote: neri73-r
              And what on the primer in the field can still be?

              Do you want to be smart, throwing in such obviously absurd comments, or are you pursuing some other goal?
              1. neri73-r
                neri73-r 10 June 2020 09: 53
                -5
                Quote: Insurgent
                You want to be smart

                You would pay attention to yourself!

                However, judging by the photo, you can pay attention to this oddity: the APU armored car is not on the road, but in the field.

                I'm not going to be smart about it! Wrote that he saw in the photo in the TG bmpd.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 10 June 2020 09: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: neri73-r
                  I'm not going to be smart about it! Wrote that he saw in the photo in the TG bmpd.

                  " I saw it myself, but I won’t show it to anyone"test application for trolling ... yes
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 10 June 2020 09: 59
                    +6
                    Well, smart?
                    1. Russian jacket
                      Russian jacket 10 June 2020 10: 24
                      0
                      Normal photos. There is a road, but for some reason I do not see a funnel from a mine. It seems that the car was dragged to this place. If the car is thrown back, then on a country road at least it should be visible just from the driver's side.
                      1. Thrall
                        Thrall 10 June 2020 12: 02
                        +5
                        Here's something like a funnel

                        But up to the heap of the Tiger of the Military Police of the Russian Federation after the bombing in Syria, it seems like June 9, too.

                        Mines, it is such a thing ...
                      2. Russian jacket
                        Russian jacket 10 June 2020 12: 28
                        +1
                        Thank. In previous photos this was not visible. hi
                  2. sleeve
                    sleeve 10 June 2020 10: 54
                    0
                    This is the thing. It is clear now.
                2. neri73-r
                  neri73-r 10 June 2020 10: 00
                  -4
                  How, the road is not visible? In the morning a bad mood?
                  1. neri73-r
                    neri73-r 10 June 2020 10: 03
                    +3
                    Minus members, how are you? tongue
                  2. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 10 June 2020 10: 14
                    0
                    Quote: neri73-r
                    How, the road is not visible?

                    Well, the road ... Well,quite a bit explosion threw the car. So what ?

                    This somehow refutes the assumption that after all, the dill for some reason pulled over to the sidelines? (especially in the context of the fact that the case was "in the area of ​​the Palace of Culture)
                    Even if not for much, but that was enough for them to find the TM "put on the separatists" ...
                    1. neri73-r
                      neri73-r 10 June 2020 10: 17
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                      It's not about the road, it's about obstinacy and in trying to blame a person for what he is not to blame, in particular for a lie! hi I wrote a post stating that the article contains an incorrect statement about the field, but you put it into question without possessing information.
                    2. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 10 June 2020 10: 23
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                      Quote: neri73-r
                      I wrote a post stating that the article contains an incorrect statement about the field

                      In the article, so that you understand, the whole idea of ​​the author of the article is based on the absurdity of the statement of the dill about the "Palace of Culture" and the contrast - the actual undermining in the field ...

                      Quote: neri73-r
                      you questioned him without information.


                      And he put it right, because you yourself, not understanding the idea of ​​the article, became "brand it with a righteous verb"...
        2. gurzuf
          gurzuf 10 June 2020 18: 30
          +2
          What is the dispute about? Culture exploded near the palace, and then the "metalworkers" were dragged to the wasteland where they were hacked to metal hi
    2. Lynx-z
      Lynx-z 11 June 2020 21: 20
      0
      there towards Swallow near the factory, just such fields ..
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 10 June 2020 10: 00
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    In the armored car that blew up yesterday in Avdeevka, there were mainly officers — these are some of them:
    - Major Serbin E.A.
    - Major Kubko V.M.
    - Senior Lieutenant Smilin S.S.
    - Senior Lieutenant Shurai Yu.V.
    - Lieutenant V. Vasilyak,
    - Junior Lieutenant Sovenko I.S.
    All diagnosed with concussion, concussion, and head injuries.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 10: 25
      +6
      Quote: Sith Lord
      The officers who were blown up yesterday in Avdeevka were mostly officers

      But what about, the toy is expensive, on it the rank and file can’t be cut ...
    2. Victorio
      Victorio 10 June 2020 11: 49
      0
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      In the armored car that blew up yesterday in Avdeevka, there were mainly officers — these are some of them:
      - Major Serbin E.A.
      - Major Kubko V.M.
      - Senior Lieutenant Smilin S.S.
      - Senior Lieutenant Shurai Yu.V.
      - Lieutenant V. Vasilyak,
      - Junior Lieutenant Sovenko I.S.
      All diagnosed with concussion, concussion, and head injuries.

      ===
      I suppose that if there were an explosion at the rear axle, there would be losses
      1. DIM (a)
        DIM (a) 10 June 2020 23: 53
        0
        Free Thoughts:
        Introduction - "I'm certainly not an expert ..." a quote from a famous anecdote about a wolf and a red riding hood ...

        I would like to comment on specialists of military sappers of course, but ...
        do not you comrades think that the result is similar to the operation of an anti-tank cumulative mine?

        which burned out the suspension and engine from the side, why the cabin survived, and also threw it in front of the car.
  3. Sayan
    Sayan 10 June 2020 10: 50
    +4
    After reading, the song was remembered)))) - we’re going, we’re going to the next village to the disco))), but seriously - the more they explode, it doesn’t matter whose mines the better.
  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 10 June 2020 10: 01
    +7
    Or maybe in "impotent rage" they killed themselves. Or this method of mine clearance. It is difficult to understand the actions of people who ate cookies.
  • Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 10 June 2020 10: 24
    12
    I think it was self-blasting) June, heat, moonshine and that's the consequence of this ..)
    1. gurzuf
      gurzuf 10 June 2020 18: 32
      +1
      That's right. They themselves blew up a small explosive. Now submissions to themselves are written for extraordinary ranks and surcharges to salaries.
  • ZaharoFF
    ZaharoFF 10 June 2020 09: 16
    +7
    It was also pointed out that during rotation some formations of Ukraine try to sell such cards to others with an indication of the location of mines.

    Just awesome good Business on the blood of comrades. Mutants In the best traditions of their heroes from caches.
  • Yrec
    Yrec 10 June 2020 09: 18
    +7
    The "changers" were greedy and did not buy minefield maps from the replaceable ones. So imbeciles are blown up on their own mines.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 09: 27
      +4
      Quote: Yrec
      The "changers" were greedy and did not buy minefield maps from the replaceable ones. So imbeciles are blown up on their own mines.

      I will confidentially tell you in confidence that often there are simply no mining schemes.

      In our country, the transfer of positions was also often reduced only to indicating a landmark: " See the apricot? Do not go there - there is an OZM, and to the left - PMN and MON-50"

      And this is ideal. And we had cases when, in our rear, guys were blown up on someone’s unsystematically delivered mines, apparently back in 2014 ...
      1. Yrec
        Yrec 10 June 2020 09: 40
        +3
        All this is sad. Mina is the meanest weapon, and on its own to explode is tin.
  • silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 10 June 2020 09: 24
    0
    a crossbow practically ... maps of minefields are probably absent ... many in the contact area set quickly and situationally ... and this happens ...
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 10 June 2020 09: 24
    +6
    Sell ​​Minefield Maps is truly Ukrainian! Not one nation can think of such a thing. And ,, Spartan ,, - it's a pity, because he has one ....)
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 June 2020 09: 39
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Sell ​​Minefield Maps is truly Ukrainian!

      As they say "business and nothing else." What can you expect from the Sumerians.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 June 2020 09: 33
    +3
    during rotation, some formations of Ukraine try to sell to others such cards indicating the location of mines.
    Here it is, natural greed. And how they shout about "brothers-in-arms", "heroes" ..., in fact, trading, stealing, abandoning their wounded. And they still set themselves the goal of capturing the Kuban and reaching Moscow? Selling skins will kill each other faster.
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  • thinker
    thinker 10 June 2020 09: 47
    +1
    Quote: Insurgent
    I will confidentially tell you a secret
    what
    Donetsk, Jun 10 - DAN. Four military personnel killed and fourteen injured in a blast two APU armored vehicles in Avdeevka. This was announced today in the DPR People’s Police Department, citing intelligence data.

    https://dan-news.info/defence/v-unm-ukazali-na-realnye-dannye-o-poteryax-vsu-pri-podryve-bronemashin-v-avdeevke.html
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 10: 09
      0
      "thinker"what exactly did you want to show with your comment with a link to the news that is ALREADY under discussion?
      1. thinker
        thinker 10 June 2020 10: 19
        +2
        So to say, added information on the article.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 10 June 2020 09: 58
    +1
    The matter is muddy, like all non-fraternal news. request
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 10 June 2020 10: 06
    0
    Also, judging by the photo, you can pay attention to this oddity: the APU armored vehicle is not on the road, but in the field. And it is unlikely that she was thrown there by an explosion. It is likely that the driver took the Spartan over the field where the Ukrainian mines were. There are a lot of questions about the photo.
    All is well, but most importantly, there is no funnel. They just dragged the car, why? The wind knows.
  • V.I.P.
    V.I.P. 10 June 2020 10: 16
    0
    I wonder what mine was blown up?
  • Alexander Glinsky
    Alexander Glinsky 10 June 2020 10: 26
    +3
    Yes, and Husim ..
  • Maximilian37
    Maximilian37 10 June 2020 10: 50
    0
    tell me, on which side is the Palace of Culture of the coke-chemical plant Avdeevka?
  • svp67
    svp67 10 June 2020 10: 57
    0
    The area of ​​the Palace of Culture of the coke-chemical plant Avdeevka ...
    .... Also, judging by the photo, you can pay attention to this oddity: the APU armored car is not on the road, but in the field ....
    That yakezh tse field ...? Chu ... Tse Well, the garden of Mr. Director ....
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 11: 05
      +4
      Quote: svp67
      That yakezh tse field ...? Chu ... Tse Well, the garden of Mr. Director ....

      Seriously, apparently "LLC" - "S" for some reason, I didn’t really want to reveal the real place of the bombing, veiling the information about it with an absurd and vague definition.
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 June 2020 11: 20
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        If serious

        It would be worth looking at the location of this recreation center, it may well be that this field is immediately behind it ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 June 2020 12: 07
          +3
          Quote: svp67
          It would be worth looking at the location of this recreation center, it may well be that this field is immediately behind it ...

          I can, of course, do it, but I probably won’t, so as not to get bogged down by the dill.

  • Free wind
    Free wind 10 June 2020 11: 05
    -1
    Such an explosion, it turned its face, but the interior is not damaged, the reservation is probably not bad.
  • Say Tooth
    Say Tooth 10 June 2020 11: 45
    0
    Quote: neri73-r
    Minus members, how are you? tongue

    I think they have sadness on their sad faces, not otherwise.
  • Alex_don
    Alex_don 10 June 2020 14: 59
    0
    It’s always interesting for a journalist that it’s so difficult to open a map and see. Of course, it’s not more interesting to write with a grin what region of the Palace of Culture this is. Here is such a straightforward simple district of the palace of culture. If I hadn’t been too lazy and corny opened the Avdeevka’s map about a miracle, I would have seen that the Palace of Culture of the AKHZ is located on the outskirts of the city and is surrounded by fields on three sides. Donetsk below for reference
  • ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 10 June 2020 16: 55
    0
    Neher rummaging through alien fields
  • tarackanovaleksei
    tarackanovaleksei 10 June 2020 18: 51
    0
    Yes it is, they shoot by themselves ..... And they land mines on their own.
    This is a long time, everyone knows.
  • Cristall
    Cristall 10 June 2020 20: 45
    0
    , judging by the photo, you can pay attention to this oddity: the APU armored vehicle is not on the road, but in the field. And it is unlikely that she was thrown there by an explosion. It is likely that the driver took the Spartan over the field where the Ukrainian mines were stationed. There are a lot of questions about the photo. Including the one about which "area of ​​the Palace of Culture" are we talking about?

    it is a pity that the authors are now more on emotions than on professionalism.
    And the questions are strange, and a discussion.
    Is it not possible to write the whole news?
    And what is the conclusion that mine own?
    I did not see any evidence, except that the territory is controlled and perhaps more likely to be delivered to Ukrainians.
    But the author forgot (intentionally or not)
    The car belongs to the National Guard.
    He was the last in the column.
    The area is really the Palace of Culture (the author, by ignorance, did not even bother to check the fields out of his mind)
    The armored vehicle fulfilled its mission - during the explosion, it saved the lives of 10 passengers.
    The explosion occurred at 9-30 in Kiev.
    I went to the OOS website to find out the details, but they still figure it out.
    And after this photo something is not the same thoughts.
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