How from the Efremov who arranged the drunk accident, the network began to “sculpt” the victim of the regime

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A tragic incident - a car accident in the center of Moscow with the participation of the famous actor Mikhail Efremov, is likely to have far-reaching consequences. This incident, monstrous both in its consequences and in its absurdity, not only stirred up the whole of Russia, but more than ever sharply raised the question of the need to once and for all put an end to impunity for VIPs (“especially important persons”), allowing themselves to ignore the law and do not care related to the safety of fellow citizens.

The actor, as you know, committed a “drunken” accident, violating traffic rules in a gross manner: in the oncoming lane, having previously flown through a double continuous one, crashed into a Lada van of a food delivery company. 58-year-old van driver Sergey Zakharov subsequently died in the hospital from numerous injuries received at the time of the accident. In Ryazan, where Zakharov came to the capital to earn money, he still had a wife and children. At the wheel of his SUV Jeep Grand Cherokee Efremov was in a state of extreme intoxication. The alcohol content in his blood was 2,1 ppm. Law enforcement officers had reason to believe that the culprit of the accident was not only drinking alcohol ...



Moreover, video surveillance cameras located in the center of Moscow at almost every step made it possible to track the actor’s route along the road to the scene almost in steps. As it turned out, the previous place of his stay was his favorite pub, where Efremov was clearly not ordering milk. However, he already arrived at the drinking establishment pretty drunk: as when trying to park, Efremov almost knocked down a company of several people on the sidewalk. By the way, a few minutes before the tragic collision, his SUV dangerously “cut” another car, but, fortunately, its driver managed to escape from the collision.

According to eyewitnesses, after the accident, he did not understand too well where he was and what happened, the actor "rather mumbled than spoke." The only question that interested him was this: "Nobody died?" At the same time, Efremov promised to “cure” the victim, announcing to all those gathered that he had “money ... (a lot)”. Then there was still hope that everything would end relatively harmlessly: the driver of the van was alive, and Mikhail Efremov was allowed to go home, imposing a written undertaking not to leave the place and instituting criminal proceedings under Part 2 of Article 264 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Violation of the rules of the road and operation Vehicle".

However, the death of the victim forced law enforcement officers to retrain the charge to paragraph “a” of the fourth part of the same article, which refers to a violation of traffic rules, which was committed while intoxicated and resulted in the death of a person. The difference is very significant. If in the first case, the culprit is threatened with forced labor for up to 4 years or imprisonment from 5 to 3 years, then in the second case, the case may end with imprisonment for up to 7 years. As of the time of the preparation of the material, it was known that the Tagansky court of Moscow determined a house arrest for a period of 12 months (until August 2) with a ban on using Mikhail Yefremov and prohibiting the use of any means of communication (including the Internet) and communicating with anyone other than immediate family , a lawyer and law enforcement officials.

It is noteworthy that the desire expressed by the actor at the scene of the accident to “make amends” and the intention to “cooperate with the investigation” somewhere evaporated, it only cost the police to come to his home for questioning after Zakharov’s death. Efremova’s current wife categorically refused to let law enforcement officers into the apartment, referring to her husband’s “poor health” and calling him an ambulance, not wanting to communicate with representatives of municipal medicine, but demanding only a team from a private clinic. In the end, several crews with doctors accumulated in the courtyard, whose help, however, was not needed by anyone.

The word "monstrous" incident was described both by Mikhail Efremov himself, who said this in the court of the Tagansky court, and by the press secretary of the Russian president Dmitry Peskov, who said that "it does not matter at all who is to blame for this tragic and monstrous case." Thus, he, obviously, made it clear that the actor would be responsible for the deed, despite all the ranks and regalia. It is very significant that many metropolitan lawyers refused to defend Efremov in court. The names of such eminent lawyers as Tatyana Stukalova, Alexander Dobrovinsky, Sergey Zhorin and others are called in the media. The circumstances of the case look too unsightly and taking on a knowingly losing process is only to spoil the reputation.

Perhaps the main thing is that the tragedy on Smolenskaya again made the Russians think about the problem of permissiveness that exists in the country for some “special” categories of citizens.

As it turned out, only since the beginning of this year, Mikhail Efremov has been brought to administrative responsibility for violating traffic rules a dozen times. In total, over the past couple of years, he was issued about thirty fines for a total amount exceeding 80 thousand rubles. Efremov quite faithfully paid for them, each time escaping with a slight fear - for misconduct that would cost someone else at least a deprivation of rights. And he, presumably, was increasingly asserted in his opinion of his own exceptionalism and impunity. It all ended with what ended ...

Surely a significant role in all this was played by the fact that Mikhail Efremov did not just refer to the color of the domestic “creative class”, but to the “opposition”, and recently he was known not so much for his roles as for criticizing the authorities, often carried out in forms, going beyond the elementary bounds of decency. Didn’t get involved because they were afraid of the cries of the “liberal” press and accusations of “repression”? It may well be, only in the end it was worth a human life.

The authorities would very much have to use what happened as a casus belli to start a fierce fight against any traffic violators, and first of all with drunken driving enthusiasts. This audience must be persecuted in the most merciless manner, regardless of status: "pro-government", "opposition" or any other.

However, it is important to note the emergence of a special “group of persons” in the network, which began to turn inside out what happened in the center of Moscow.

Numerous publications appeared on the network stating that Mr. Efremov was almost deliberately “framed”. The "non-living" audience agreed to the fact that Efremova "blinded the headlights", that he "did not drink, but was under the influence of the required medications."

How from the Efremov who arranged the drunk accident, the network began to “sculpt” the victim of the regime



They even dragged something about the "automatic support and special services." All these ridiculous statements in the style of - Mr. Efremov "personally in the Kremlin instructed to pour alcohol into his mouth and whispered in his ear - get drunk and get behind the wheel" - have one purpose. The “creative public”, instead of recognizing the commission of a crime by Efremov, is trying to fashion “a new victim of the regime” out of him, in fact making it clear that the death of an ordinary driver is nothing more than an “annoying misunderstanding” for them.
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  1. +73
    10 June 2020 07: 45
    This is not a victim of the regime, this is a drunk.

    I watched the detention video yesterday. He got out of the car drunk there.
    1. +45
      10 June 2020 07: 54
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      I watched the detention video yesterday. He got out of the car drunk there.

      Yes, not just drunk, but drunk in the "smoke". I do not know how he, after all that has been done, can appear in front of people.
      1. +36
        10 June 2020 07: 58
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Yes, not just drunk, but drunk in the "smoke". ...

        and his TUMMY HARAH ?! He drank not one day and drove all the time ...

        Yesterday published the results of his honey. survey: in addition to the wild dose of alcohol (far more than 1,2), he found traces of it ...... Cocaine, Marijuana and cocoethanol (what is this?).

        This is a complete junkie!

        With the same bouquet, I won’t get away, I think.

        The scoundrel!
        1. +21
          10 June 2020 08: 02
          Quote: Olgovich
          and his PULSE HARAH ?!

          You are very right "swollen mug", even the "homeless" will look decently. And this is a mirror of Russian art. Pfyu! even disgusting to write.
          1. +12
            10 June 2020 08: 42
            This is just an actor with alcoholism.
            Do not make him a mirror of Russian art. There are different people in it.
            1. +6
              10 June 2020 08: 53
              Quote: Carte
              This is just an actor with alcoholism.

              Interestingly, the rest of the alcoholics are also former actors.
              1. +15
                10 June 2020 13: 58
                Ksenia Kachalina - the fourth wife of actor Mikhail Efremov, through whose fault Sergey Zakharov, a Ryazan, died in an accident,
                stated that the actor was allegedly framed.

                Meanwhile, Mikhail Efremov is not just an alcoholic, but also just a liberoid traitor to the Motherland.
                His famous and respected dad Oleg Efremov, probably in a coffin from such a son with a groan, always turns over.
                Namely.

                In March 2018, after a tour in Jurmala, artist Mikhail Efremov gave an interview to the Baltic edition, which was not seen in the Russian media.
                In him he spoke about his vision of the relationship between Russia and the West, and also told about plans to move to Latvia for permanent residence (which could be for the better).
                Personally, for example, the West is much closer to me. As you have here, for example. I do not understand this Russia.
                I think I have like thin esthetepurely aesthetic problems with Russia - do not converge in worldview. True, I don’t even see myself in another country, because I work in Russian. Of course, if I knew for sure that they would put me in my homeland, I would have faded. ”,
                - told Efremov, adding that he was seriously considering the option of the next move to Latvia.
                See detail - https://vk.com/wall167291003_34236
                1. +23
                  10 June 2020 14: 08
                  Efremov: "I think I, like thin esthete??, purely aesthetic problems with Russia - we do not agree on the worldview. "

                2. +5
                  10 June 2020 18: 31
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Of course, if I knew for sure that they would imprison me in my homeland, I would have faded ”,

                  Michelle later realized that they would put him in prison, but not for the tongue, but for the murder.
                  1. +2
                    11 June 2020 16: 13
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Michelle later caught himself, put him down,

                    They will put him in prison, there is no place to go, that the drunk and everything else is not a secret, but here it is more interesting how all this "elite bohemia" shows its "face", many of them for me are not only as artists but also as people to The concept of unacceptable (this is mild) for attention to them began to be treated, It is right, everything here and climbs out of them and the level of attitude towards people "not of their circle", and the intellect is real de facto ... Sadly, all this is true. :(
                  2. 0
                    18 June 2020 16: 55
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    they will put me in prison, but not for language, but for murder.

                    there are rumors that another "esthete", Panin, said that Efremov should not be imprisoned and if he was imprisoned then Panin would go to prison with him. in such situations, it would be nice if the court ordered Efremov to serve his sentence in a dog's suit. two aesthetes must understand each other! wassat
                    1. 0
                      18 June 2020 22: 31
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      Panin, said that Efremov should not be imprisoned and if he was sent to prison, Panin would go to prison with him.

                      You cannot believe such a "panin", although he is as frostbitten as Efremov.
                3. Alf
                  +3
                  10 June 2020 19: 53
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  True, I don’t even see myself in another country,

                  Because in another country, no one needs it for an organ. And in Russia, not really either.
                4. 0
                  13 June 2020 07: 36
                  This article is a clumsy excuse for liberoids: “Yes, he is not ours at all!”
                  Nevertheless, the bank blocked the account of the deceased’s widow, they do not even give it to bury.
            2. +26
              10 June 2020 09: 00
              Quote: Carte
              This is just an actor with alcoholism.

              This is just a criminal who intentionally committed the murder. Do not justify this. This is a bad manners. feel
              1. +2
                10 June 2020 11: 30
                What ?! Ksenia Sobchak, right, the thing is in them! And in Efremov and Sobchak and Putin and Medvedev and Mishustin, etc.
            3. +15
              10 June 2020 09: 08
              Quote: Carte
              This is just an actor with alcoholism.
              Do not make him a mirror of Russian art. There are different people in it.

              And if right now the "Russian art" of the Moscow spill on the crap is checked, what percentage will be? 99,9%, except perhaps Okhlobystin? Or a little less? People are different, shit is the same.
            4. +6
              10 June 2020 10: 32
              Quote: Carte
              This is just an actor with alcoholism.
              Do not make him a mirror of Russian art. There are different people in it.
              The people in it are different, but the essence is the same - a many-faced bastard. I think that he won the "competition" for the role of Zek and this series for him will last ten years.
            5. +9
              10 June 2020 13: 28
              Quote: Carte
              This is just an actor with alcoholism.
              Do not make him a mirror of Russian art. There are different people in it.
              What’s interesting to me?!. And what prevents such stars understanding / realizing, What are you - "swell lover" (!), with such a small income (!), to have a personal driver, and use his services? !!! Do you want to swell and not be connected by public transport, but ride your car (?), let him be a sober driver (!) ... and the whole problem !!!
              1. Alf
                +6
                10 June 2020 19: 55
                Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                And what prevents such stars, realizing / realizing that you are a "swell lover" (!), With such not a small income (!), To have a personal driver and use his services? !!!

                1. Money is a pity, the rich are rather stingy.
                2. What driver can handle such an "employer"?
                1. +5
                  10 June 2020 20: 28
                  Quote: Alf
                  1. Money is a pity, the rich are rather stingy.
                  semi nonsense (!). A man with his wealth, without straining, can afford to contain a driver (!). It's not about greed .... just before, hundreds of times "let go through to resolve", and there was no sense of personal responsibility (at the level of conscience, no matter how funny it may sound) .... recourse
                  Quote: Alf
                  2. What driver can handle such an "employer"?
                  Almost any ... A lot of good drivers looking for work (!). Find would not be a problem !!! There was no desire (!), from (see paragraph 1.) the absence of fear, a possible and inevitable responsibility ....
                  In other words, - "impunity - breeds permissiveness" (!)there is such a saying ... hi
                  1. Alf
                    +1
                    10 June 2020 20: 53
                    Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                    semi nonsense (!)

                    Not at all. The rich love to spend on themselves.
                    Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                    Almost any ... A lot of good drivers looking for work (!).

                    Would you go to work like this? A person who has not yet eroded such a thing as self-esteem hardly went to him.
                    1. -1
                      10 June 2020 21: 14
                      Quote: Alf
                      Not at all. The rich love to spend on themselves.
                      Then (NOW) another saying comes into force, - "miser pays twice !!"
                      Quote: Alf
                      Would you go to work like this?
                      as an actor, he was even cute to me ... ("Storm Gates", for example ?!) ... you absolutely sure that there was "arrogance" in everyday life ?!... Therefore, before the experience of personal communication, to pose the question how, -
                      Quote: Alf
                      A person who has not yet eroded such a thing as self-esteem hardly went to him.
                      rather, all the same - DIRECT EXPLANATION (!).... To draw conclusions on the topic ("went to work for him?!"), It is rather difficult to judge without personal communication (!). It is possible that under "the pressure of the incident" (and correspondingly "articles on resonance"), your score is a little hypertrophied. I drive sober (!) (this time !!), and believe me, be I driving there, "to the oncoming lane" wouldn’t fly out (only when the front left wheel breaks, but this SUCH RARENESS for no reason (!). (these are two !!) ... And then perhaps we wouldn’t have something to discuss with you (these are three !!) hi my regards (!). just have to be objective !!!
                      1. Alf
                        +6
                        10 June 2020 21: 29
                        Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                        To draw conclusions on the topic ("I went to work for him?!"), It is rather difficult to judge without personal communication (!).

                        Typically, these types are visible from the first words, even during the interview.
                        Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                        I drive sober (!)

                        I am very happy for you, really happy.
                        Quote: Vl Nemchinov
                        and believe me, if I were driving there, I would not fly into the oncoming lane

                        And what does this prove?
                        My position is as follows. I drank, do not drive. Drunk committed, get it in full, without any discounts. Caught drunk-rights for life down.
                      2. 0
                        10 June 2020 22: 01
                        Quote: Alf
                        My position is as follows. I drank, do not drive. Drunk committed, get it in full, without any discounts.
                        so in this, I fully agree with you (!!!). And my first koment - was just about that (!).
                      3. Alf
                        +1
                        10 June 2020 22: 02
                        Quote: Nemchinov Vl
                        Quote: Alf
                        My position is as follows. I drank, do not drive. Drunk committed, get it in full, without any discounts.
                        so in this, I fully agree with you (!!!). And my first koment - was just about that (!).

                        Well, tady Oh! laughing
                2. 0
                  11 June 2020 11: 59
                  From 2003 to 2005, he worked as a "personal" in one private security company. Our chief conducted constant rotation and did not attach to the "body" for more than 2 weeks. Generally wise. Rarely, after this time, there was no desire to nail the body in some slow and cruel way.
          2. -23
            10 June 2020 09: 14
            According to the male line, Efremov’s ancestors are from Mordovia, hence the appearance.
          3. +5
            10 June 2020 09: 16
            This is a mirror of the Russian opposition :)
            1. -11
              10 June 2020 09: 31
              Quote: Andrey Miroshnichenko
              This is a mirror of the Russian opposition :)

              Do not write nonsense. This is just a famous drunk. But the victim is appointed, because Putin got there. Or is it Peskov drove the blizzard again?
              1. +10
                10 June 2020 12: 13
                Where
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Putin climbed there
                ?! He turned the steering wheel, but Efremov didn’t bother to snatch it? It seems that it’s not only for Efrem to harm the intake of substances ...
                1. -9
                  10 June 2020 13: 18
                  Quote: Mikhail3
                  He turned the steering wheel, but Efremov didn’t bother to snatch it?

                  Yeah, you have glitches in your head, maybe it’s baked? I write that it would be better for Peskov to remain silent about the monstrous accident, we have a lot of such accidents with drunken vampires.
                  1. 0
                    10 June 2020 15: 09
                    I do not understand. Why is it "better to keep silent"? Since you have a lot of such accidents somewhere, say so, do not be silent. Or did someone interfere? Do you have anything to show in this regard? Write, publish, let's try through sat. And to give instructions to the president ... your crown will not fall off?
                    1. -6
                      10 June 2020 19: 20
                      Quote: Mikhail3
                      Since you have somewhere full of such accidents, so say, do not be silent.

                      And what, each such accident Peskov will comment?
                      1. +1
                        11 June 2020 08: 43
                        Without answering the questions asked, do you ask yours? This style of "communication" will not work.
              2. +5
                10 June 2020 13: 27
                And Putin got in there?)
          4. +2
            11 June 2020 12: 40
            This is the face of the Russian protest intelligentsia. You can tell the color of it.
          5. 0
            12 June 2020 15: 36
            What a "face of art", such a reflection ...
        2. +12
          10 June 2020 08: 34
          They are already sculpting the victim of the bloody regime, then the victim’s car does not comply with the safety rules, the authorities did not install a separator (chipper), then the traffic cops did not inspect.
          In how they howled at the "Echo of Matzo", already disgusting ...

          quotebonjour___
          June 10, 2020 | 01:39
          rico777_: Do not blame me! I write when there is time.
          Today I am killed. A car without control flew almost a kilometer. Where are the traffic cops? Why did quarantine be so stupidly canceled? The Coronacrisis is the latest “Chinese warning” for Putin. It's hard for people. And M.O. Efremov has three small children. The elders must support the father at all costs. Misha is a smart person. The mask behind the bars is the Sobyaninsky theater of the absurd. 21 century.
          1. +12
            10 June 2020 08: 41
            The lives of ordinary people matter!
            1. +6
              10 June 2020 09: 33
              I don’t know how, after all he has done, he will be able to appear in front of people.

              Yes, it’s very simple, quit thumping, repents ... It will enter the new role just to spit. It was not for nothing that the hypocrites were previously forbidden to bury in the cemetery.
              1. +3
                11 June 2020 21: 27
                These do not give up. He is an ideological drunk. In general, it’s amazing how his body withstands all this ... He will stop drinking only behind bars.
                1. 0
                  12 June 2020 15: 41
                  And why he doesn’t use hawthorn, he doesn’t work as a loader and reinforcer to tear himself up. You can sit on expensive elite high-quality alcohol for a long time. Delirium with a squirrel caught - in a private clinic with all the conditions for a couple of months and boldly thump again.
          2. -9
            10 June 2020 09: 04
            authorities did not establish a separator (chipper)

            I wrote about the rail on the next branch. Absolutely irrespective of the drunk driving. I want to know why there are granite borders, but there is no damn rail, although he simply must be there.
            1. -3
              10 June 2020 15: 23
              Yes, you at least get angry - if it does not reach. My wife goes there every morning, I'm a little less often. And I absolutely don’t give a damn about what exactly 2.5 tons will fly into my lobeshnik - you can’t build this second elite - build at least a rail. Has it reached all the stupid?
            2. BAI
              +9
              10 June 2020 18: 11
              I want to know why there are granite borders, but there is no damn rail, although he simply must be there.

              From what lyady in the middle of the road should the rail stand if brains should be sober and not stoned at the wheel? Why should everyone have problems because of one drunk? A drunk must be punished so that others are not habituated. We have 1 (ONE) drunk only had an accident at the intersection, so immediately joyfully overlaid the entire intersection with speed bumps. There was a road for hundreds of years, there were no speed bumps, and now please. Every day THOUSAND cars from = for ONE goat jump there.
              А
              My wife goes there every morning, I'm a little less often.
              absolutely not an argument. Do not like it - take another road or walk. Why does one have to adjust because of one? Why is this one the best of all?
              1. +1
                10 June 2020 20: 28
                Quote: BAI
                From what Lyad in the middle of the road should stand, rail
                And in order to prevent such an accident here. And it doesn’t matter Efremov or just a car whose brakes failed, in Israel even in small towns they put flow dividers
              2. -2
                12 June 2020 15: 46
                In our city, police officers were put in front of EVERY crossing in general. For 20 years, once passed pedestrians on the street, where there are no houses. And they put it there. But how the pits and sewer hatches were left.
                But on the tracks put the cables - this is good, no questions asked.
              3. 0
                14 June 2020 10: 03
                From what lyady in the middle of the road should the rail stand if brains should be sober and not stoned at the wheel?

                BAI, well, what are these rails from other places? Because it is a security element. There is a concrete island, "in the middle of the road", from which traffic lights stick out, what prevents 200 meters of the rail from extending further, in the turning zone? The conversation is not about lying, but about the rail, and precisely because there is not only a drugged representative of the "elite" who can fly out like that. There is a rail along the entire three-ruble note, it does not bother anyone ... You either did not understand the message, or you deliberately pretend, and you advise me to "use another road", that is, to adjust to some official who decided that safety is in a dangerous place no need to provide. Therefore, we have a deceased, and if there were a rail there, the person would be alive. I do not know how else to explain, are such obvious things really so difficult to understand ...
        3. +3
          10 June 2020 08: 43
          Cocoethanol, probably eggs will be wrapped in alcohol. Nothing else comes to mind.
        4. +5
          10 June 2020 09: 05
          Quote: Olgovich
          cocoethanol

          Apparently "Baltic cocktail" - a solution of cocaine in alcohol. I wonder where the completely mediocre actor got "money ..." from? Where does he get them?
          1. +1
            10 June 2020 09: 29
            Quote: Mikhail3
            I wonder where the completely mediocre actor got "money ..." from? Where does he get them?

            By the way, yes, I join the question. hi
          2. +3
            10 June 2020 10: 04
            You probably wanted to say "Baltic tea" ?!
            1. +1
              10 June 2020 12: 05
              No. There are two names for this wonderful product, tea and cocktail. The Baltic sailors, who invented it out of boredom and excess money in the year 17, did not register their trademark and company name, so I hope they will not sue me.
          3. 0
            12 June 2020 15: 52
            We will expand the cards. Down from the shoulders pea jacket.
            Walking royally, Kronstadt brother.
            We eat pineapples, paste, sausage.
            Alcohol in glasses and nose in tobacco!

            Baltic gull loves chill.
            Baltic gull famously knocks down!
            Baltic gull is a poisonous juice.
            A gram of cocaine and a sip of alcohol!

            "Baltic seagull" Orleands Band
            1. 0
              14 June 2020 11: 07
              No screaming will make THIS a poem and a song. And so the source) one hundred percent will not do.
        5. -2
          10 June 2020 09: 19
          To the count of the criminal!
        6. +25
          10 June 2020 09: 21
          Quote: Olgovich
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Yes, not just drunk, but drunk in the "smoke". ...

          and his TUMMY HARAH ?! He drank not one day and drove all the time ...

          Yesterday published the results of his honey. survey: in addition to the wild dose of alcohol (far more than 1,2), he found traces of it ...... Cocaine, Marijuana and cocoethanol (what is this?).

          This is a complete junkie!

          With the same bouquet, I won’t get away, I think.

          The scoundrel!


          This is the face of all "our" beau monde - alcohol, drugs, debauchery, pedophilia, sodomy, etc. and we are partly to blame for this, we go to their performances, we admire their talent, instead of spitting at their feet, maybe something will change.
          1. +10
            10 June 2020 12: 19
            Quote: Wolverine
            This is the face of all "our" beau monde - alcohol, drugs, debauchery, pedophilia, sodomy, etc. and we are partly to blame for this, we go to their performances, we admire their talent, instead of spitting at their feet, maybe something will change.

            I agree with the diagnosis and treatment method.
            Since 1991 I haven’t been reading newspapers; I don’t go to theaters of my own free will.
            In torment I know the modern theater, well, that is rare ...
            Pops ... ... ...
            Once upon a time, artists were not even buried in cemeteries - they are unclean people.
            Whatever play A.N. Ostrovsky, the artist is a drunkard and a liar.
            Poets and musicians are very close to them in spirit.
            When it was the end of the XNUMXth century, and they were from raznochintsy, A.N. Ostrovsky and then noticed the abominable nascent beau monde.
            And during the period of the Silver Age, the politicization and venality of bohemia manifested itself in all its insignificance.
            During the Soviet period, everything was repeated ... First, they overthrew the previous authorities, then created their own new ones. In the Soviet Union, the beau monde lived modestly by today's standards, and this beau monde was angry. They are worthy ...
            After 1991, the situation changed. The media began to play an increasing role, and commissioners of the new era were required. This was especially clearly manifested in the 1996 elections. How many of them danced around and to the glory of EBN.
            The method has been learned. Dances began all over the country ... Golden rain poured ... Sprouts from the behemoths rose ... among them was the newly formed killer.
            I respect talents. Talents are a gift from God. M. Efremov has a talent. And this obliges a lot.
            I am very sorry that this happened.
            But it’s impossible to forgive.
            It is impossible to condone this.
            And people like M. Efremov should know that there is a special demand for talent.
            It would be right. that he would execute himself.
            1. +1
              10 June 2020 13: 08
              The great actor Oleg Efremov probably turns over in his grave for filial fortunes
          2. AUL
            +7
            10 June 2020 15: 06
            Quote: Wolverine
            This is the face of all "our" beau monde - alcohol, drugs, debauchery, pedophilia, sodomy, etc. and we are partly to blame for this, we go to their performances, we admire their talent, instead of spitting at their feet,

            Anatoly, 100% correct judgment!
            The third article on this topic. Is there too much honor for this drunk and the killer?
        7. +5
          10 June 2020 11: 23
          Cocoethanol is formed when you sniff vodka with cocaine. And this comrade, who is not a comrade to us at all, was sent under house arrest. Where he will continue one hundred percent in the same vein, but now it’s kind of with grief. And it would have been necessary to cover up in the pre-trial detention center so that I could take a sober look at what had been done.
        8. +11
          10 June 2020 13: 01
          Quote: Olgovich
          This is a complete junkie!

          No, it’s a DESERVED ARTIST OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. This is a man who sows the good, reasonable, eternal to the masses ... Remember Sergey Zakharov, a singer and artist, who was convicted for a fight in 1977 and served his term. And if before the fight he was very popular, then after his release he was seldom remembered about him, but there were performances, but that glory was gone. And now? .. On the stage and on the screen, everything from bestiality to drug addicts, and then we are surprised that the level of morality in the country has fallen ... drinks hi
          1. 0
            12 June 2020 15: 56
            It would seem, what does Panin have to do with it?) And all sorts of kokorins with mummies?
            1. 0
              12 June 2020 16: 08
              Quote: Jager
              It would seem, what does Panin have to do with it?)

              Actor Panin: “If Efremov is imprisoned, I will sit next to him”
              It turns out that an "animal lover" also turns out to be a "fighter against tyranny and despotism" like a drunk addict driver ...
              1. 0
                15 June 2020 08: 36
                Actor Panin: “If Efremov is imprisoned, I will sit next to him”
                If only he wouldn’t refuse his words winked
                1. 0
                  15 June 2020 11: 43
                  Quote: sivuch
                  Actor Panin: “If Efremov is imprisoned, I will sit next to him”
                  If only he wouldn’t refuse his words winked

                  Panin? He is the master of his word, he gave the word, he took the word.
        9. Alf
          0
          10 June 2020 19: 51
          Quote: Olgovich
          With the same bouquet, I won’t get away, I think.

          I hope, but not really, knowing the "incorruptibility" of our justice.
        10. 0
          11 June 2020 21: 19
          Cocoethanol is when two are in one .... Alcohol and cocaine ... M a r finished. All. I’m not listening to Solovyov for two years already, at least, but here he said accurately and capaciously.
        11. +1
          12 June 2020 09: 56
          Quote: Olgovich
          With the same bouquet, I won’t get away, I think.

          I think it will turn off. The first - "the genius had a stroke, and he took the pills with kefir, and from there there were traces of alcohol in the blood", the second - "the reprisal of the bloody regime against the brave oppositionist who boldly read rhymes about the ugly Putin." Already started to otmazyvat.
          1. 0
            12 June 2020 22: 39
            This is how much kefir needs to be minced so that 2.1 ppm in the blood is
      2. +28
        10 June 2020 07: 59
        nothing to do with his political views. he is a killer! gotta sit down!
      3. +6
        10 June 2020 08: 07
        2,1 washed, this is a very large dose.
      4. +7
        10 June 2020 08: 38
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        I watched the detention video yesterday. He got out of the car drunk there.

        Yes, not just drunk, but drunk in the "smoke". I do not know how he, after all that has been done, can appear in front of people.

        He can, he can.
      5. +3
        10 June 2020 08: 53
        I don’t know how, after all he has done, he will be able to appear in front of people.

        And he is not with people, he must have the same scum in prison, no, he simply must appear! Sobakina mother.
      6. +3
        10 June 2020 08: 55
        He does not need to appear in front of people, only in the courtroom. And there can only be one solution - to take into custody after the meeting, with life deprivation of rights after serving. Of course, they will try to knock off the maximum term for the merits of the pope - such a right and popularly beloved. Five years sit down. But our embankment is quite quiet, and rockers spar under 200. I know of two relatively young women who died under the wheels of a motorcycle. I do not know how motorcyclists got off, but I am sure that women were disciplined, law-abiding and did not violate. But of course they attributed the violation. That is allowed in the city no more than 90 - for every 10 km of excess - deprivation of rights for a year, say. Well, from 90 to 100 - suppose the last Chinese warning before the first violation. And they laugh at fines. Accelerated to 200 - train 10 years on public transport. There are cameras everywhere. And the speed must be shown on special tracks.
        1. +3
          12 June 2020 16: 01
          So if they fly there all the time, why don’t you say it yourself? We on the promenade were also lovers of drive in the city. After statements and protests of residents of neighboring houses rolled up two speed bumps. The first weekend was only heard at night, screeching brakes and blows on the bottom of the bumps. By the morning of pieces of 5 bumpers torn away lay nearby. And all, as cut off since then - silence and peace.
          1. 0
            12 June 2020 21: 46
            It never occurred to me. I'll try to make inquiries. Thanks for the advice. And then after all, they also remove the silencer, bastards.
      7. +4
        10 June 2020 09: 23
        Not in the smoke, but in the trash, and not only drunk, but also on drugs.
      8. +6
        10 June 2020 09: 29
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Yes, not just drunk, but drunk in the "smoke".

        Exactly! This bastard was unable to connect two words! Inarticulate speech ... swollen "physiognomy" ... well, yes ... added ,, illegally damned waiters ,, a few drops of alcohol in a glass with "tea"! Pancake! These disgusting "justifiers" have no shame, no conscience! Kind people! What is this going on !? Some group of dirty tricks, imagining themselves to be the "navels of the earth", "elite", "bohemian", "celestials", got ridiculous from impunity, a feeling of their permissiveness, from a narcotic, alcoholic madness appointed themselves "the mind and conscience" of modern society! And to establish themselves in this idiotic opinion, they are helped by brainless "admirers" (!) Who, in spite of the abominations, meanness they do ... regardless of the arrogance, rudeness of self-proclaimed "celestials", still consider them their idols ! fool thereby "helping" them to establish themselves in their "chosenness"! And also, the patrons of officials, deputies, who themselves are mired in vices, help them to cherish their egoism, egocentrism, and therefore "well understand" egoism, egocentrism of the "navels of the earth"!
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      10. +3
        10 June 2020 10: 25
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Yes, not just drunk, but drunk in the "smoke". I do not know how he, after all that has been done, can appear in front of people.

        There were still traces of heroin in the blood. And in a compartment with alcohol, he could only get to prison. And if not for the Gazelle, but to the bus stop with a bunch of people?
        Soloviev called him, after an accident-Liberal scum. That is, here is the first-born who put a political mark on the drunk killer in this matter. The question is, why?
        And now everything depends on lawyers and prosecutors. Our judicial system and not such bail was released with a suspended sentence.
        In Germany, there was a show trial of two street racers from a wealthy (golden youth), one of which, at a speed of 140 km / h, drove into a jeep with a pensioner. The result is these geeks are alive, and the pensioner died on the spot. The court was open to the press, as open as possible, and like dear lawyers did not try to translate all this into an article, accident by negligence, they soldered lifeless people to these reckless persons, according to the article, the murder of a man in conspiracy, because they thought about the route of the race on the threshold.
        So, all these silveries who drive with impunity, knowing that dad, friends, will easily get rid of it, it's time to give real terms, regardless of dads and moms and friends. And to the maximum.
        1. DVR
          +2
          11 June 2020 02: 50
          Soloviev called him, after an accident-Liberal scum. That is, here is the first-born who put a political mark on the drunk killer in this matter. The question is, why?

          Do not ascribe Soloviev other people's merits. Many who called it before the accident a liberal scum, and even in every way. Soloviev is more public of course, but he did not say anything new.
        2. +2
          11 June 2020 13: 21
          Quote: NEXUS
          these silvers that are driven with impunity, knowing that dad, friends, will easily get rid of it, it's time to give real terms, regardless of dads and moms and friends.

          In general, the ideal case when such organisms still find their cherished,
          the first and last pillar, tightly, but without taking anyone with him. am
          1. +2
            11 June 2020 15: 11
            Quote: Paranoid50
            tightly, but without taking anyone with him.

            Death is not even worthless. And he took it. And of course, the binge is sound, drug can only be brought to prison. Which is what happened. And I do not care about those stars and media boobies who are trying to protect him .... HE IS A KILLER. DOT.
          2. +1
            12 June 2020 16: 08
            I personally cursed only such pole-hunters with all the curses when I once again restored cable communication because of collapsed supports. And it is obligatory either in frost or in rain. We have enough concrete chippers, trees and fields - fly in, I don’t want to.
            1. Alf
              0
              12 June 2020 16: 41
              Quote: Jager
              pole hunters

              good
      11. +5
        10 June 2020 10: 28
        Yes, not just in the "smoke", but also charged with snow and grass
      12. +8
        10 June 2020 10: 29
        And why did the pub work in quarantine mode if it should be closed?
        1. Alf
          0
          10 June 2020 20: 02
          Quote: finish
          And why did the pub work in quarantine mode if it should be closed?

          So a hard worker didn’t go there, but it’s scary to think who Efremov himself ... Khodorkovsky brought dinners from the best restaurants to his cell. One cook from a very, very restaurant did say on TV. So such a person orders ... Well, the question arose then to me, well, the cook, okay, he’s getting money for cooking, but WHAT and how MUCH are the guards in the jail?
      13. +3
        10 June 2020 10: 51
        I don’t know how, after all he has done, he will be able to appear in front of people.

        Vlad, unfortunately, can. request Not so, so commercials. The concept of conscience is different for everyone. hi And this "citizen poet" has simply "lost the edge" in his drinking, as they say. negative
      14. +1
        10 June 2020 12: 16
        Quote: tihonmarine
        I don’t know how, after all he has done, he will be able to appear in front of people.

        Such as this work on corporate parties. And there people are not going to.
    2. +10
      10 June 2020 08: 09
      This cobbler also found coke in the blood. It seems that everything will be like this - will fall into the fool, buy a diagnosis and jump off, well, or they will give a term and amnesty, we will see.
      1. +11
        10 June 2020 08: 23
        Quote: Sayan
        This cobbler also found coke in the blood.


        This is normal Yes



        Exposure killing: cocaine + hemp + alcohol = House arrest...

        1. -1
          10 June 2020 09: 15
          Quote: Insurgent
          Killing under the influence of: cocaine + hemp + alcohol = house arrest ...

          Do you doubt the Russian Themis?
        2. 0
          10 June 2020 11: 06
          Quote: Insurgent
          Killing under the influence of: cocaine + hemp + alcohol = house arrest ...

          Wildness!
          1. Alf
            +1
            10 June 2020 20: 08
            Quote: Olgovich
            Quote: Insurgent
            Killing under the influence of: cocaine + hemp + alcohol = house arrest ...

            Wildness!

            Not at all, just the realities of Russian justice.
        3. +1
          10 June 2020 12: 36
          But someone was obliged (long ago) to deprive him of the right to manage. after all, someone was obliged (a long time ago) to fire him from his job for the systematic use of alcohol and drugs in the workplace. All these "respected people" are also accomplices, murderers. Will they be held accountable? "The inevitability of punishment", "social justice", "equality" and other liberal values ​​...
      2. +16
        10 June 2020 08: 53
        No doubt! This character is the mouthpiece of our unwelcoming village bastards. They will begin to sing about how Efremov has a suffering soul, how unbearable it was for him to live under Putin's mordor. Jeep Cherokee, of course he got it with a squeaky heart, just to prevent any Putin from buying it. Now they are busy. Like, it was Sobyanin who arranged the wrong bump stop. I drove from a kilometer passed out, but the traffic police did not work! Honestly, although the events with the murdered black man in America sometimes look comical from the outside. And it would be nice to organize the movement "The lives of ordinary people matter!" After all, this is not only the story with Efremov. Too often the crimes of people from high society are let down by our authorities.
      3. Alf
        +1
        10 June 2020 20: 07
        Quote: Sayan
        they will give a term and amnesty,

        Or they will give a reprieve, about 20 years. The daughter of the Yekaterinburg chairman of the CEC, who shot down two women at a bus stop to death, was given a 12-year suspended sentence, and that was only because the wave was driven.
        1. 0
          11 June 2020 06: 48
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Sayan
          they will give a term and amnesty,

          Or they will give a reprieve, about 20 years. The daughter of the Yekaterinburg chairman of the CEC, who shot down two women at a bus stop to death, was given a 12-year suspended sentence, and that was only because the wave was driven.

          For such a sentence, he first needs to "fly in")))))), and this is problematic - a bit old wassat minus is not mine.
          1. Alf
            0
            11 June 2020 17: 34
            Quote: Sayan
            For such a verdict, he must first "fly in")))))), and this is problematic - a bit old, with a minus not mine.

            I accept. The fact is that there are creatures on the VO who, on the basis of personal dislike, mold minuses to absolutely any post, even the fact that "twice two or four."
            Are you sure that she flew? The reason for the shift of the sentence to the right is the official certificate that she is pregnant with a period of TWO WEEKS, which is even very difficult to determine.
    3. +3
      10 June 2020 08: 37
      Here we have such a "bohemian", and still teaches everyone to live ... Efremov, although he never hid that he was a complete drunk, but the problem is that they are all spoiled there, these modern "stars"! And we are all to blame - we introduced them to the rank of the inhabitants of the sky, so they spit on us from the high bell tower! The Mamaevs, Kokorins, Prigogine, Lepsy ... And the second trouble is that those who have not drunk themselves completely or chipped, the roof has not leaked from doping .. come to the Duma and rule the country! And what-Bread and circuses! "People hawala!" So it is not Efremov who is to blame, but the very essence of the capitalist system undermines concepts and values, distorting the human soul!
      1. +6
        10 June 2020 08: 54
        Quote: Finches
        Here we have such a "bohemian", and still teaches everyone to live ... Efremov, although he never hid that he was a complete drunk, but the problem is that they are all spoiled there, these modern "stars"! And we are all to blame - we introduced them to the rank of the inhabitants of the sky, so they spit on us from the high bell tower! The Mamaevs, Kokorins, Prigogine, Lepsy ... And the second trouble is that those who have not drunk themselves completely or chipped, the roof has not leaked from doping .. come to the Duma and rule the country! And what-Bread and circuses! "People hawala!" So it is not Efremov who is to blame, but the very essence of the capitalist system undermines concepts and values, distorting the human soul!

        You are partly right, but only partly in the USSR, many "Bohemians" behaved disgustingly, I remember how Gradskiy came to us in Bratsk, Tsoi - drunk on stage, swearing, and the "filmmakers" also slurped blame throwing empty bottles in the audience eventually provoked a pogrom of the hotel "taiga", where they were drinking - they were taken to the airport under the protection of riot police.
        1. +9
          10 June 2020 08: 58
          In the USSR, there was a clearly established line - which could not be crossed! And these "creative" people are often a vessel of all sorts of abominations in the main ... Especially your example from the late USSR, when permissiveness had already begun!
          1. +1
            10 June 2020 09: 39
            Exactly! In good times, the actresses were not even buried in the cemetery.
          2. +3
            10 June 2020 10: 36
            And what about the antics of Galina Brezhneva? Some have always been equal ....
            1. 0
              10 June 2020 13: 22
              Have you seen enough in the movie, or did she ruin someone too drunk?
        2. +5
          10 June 2020 12: 47
          Quote: Sayan
          came to us in Bratsk

          hi Hello fellow countryman! Although I live in another city, I consider Bratsk my own.
          Quote: Sayan
          Gradsky, Choi - drunk

          I did not find the swollen Pugachikha crawling on terns Leshchenko, yes it was, all this "elite" who raised a howl in defense of the representative of the "bohemian" pretends one goal - "we are not subject to laws for" would "
          1. +1
            10 June 2020 13: 31
            Quote: edmed
            Quote: Sayan
            came to us in Bratsk

            hi Hello fellow countryman! Although I live in another city, I consider Bratsk my own.
            Quote: Sayan
            Gradsky, Choi - drunk

            I did not find the swollen Pugachikha crawling on terns Leshchenko, yes it was, all this "elite" who raised a howl in defense of the representative of the "bohemian" pretends one goal - "we are not subject to laws for" would "

            I greet the zem, on the good side, whom we saw — Magomayev, Kobzon (he came to us in Varyag — he fished with us, talked a lot, sang) and Malezhik.
            1. +1
              10 June 2020 13: 52
              Quote: Sayan
              Sayan (Igor)

              Quote: Sayan
              Magomaev, Kobzon (he came to us in Varyag - he fished with us, talked a lot, sang) and Malezhik.

              If a person appreciates himself, then he will not fall with his face in the salad, despite the fact that he was covered with a "clearing", op of youth on the "potato" they discussed who is cooler and the artists, there was a wise man who said, "Why do you pile clowns on your neck and jesters, make idols for yourself, "according to their relics and oil", there is talent and conscience, hard currency and respect, no, half-heartedly, jester. "
      2. +3
        10 June 2020 08: 59
        Quote: Finches
        Efremov, although he never hid the fact that he is a complete drunk

        M. Efremov did not say so and did not consider himself to be such, moreover, he called himself a cheerful drinker. According to him, he did not drink, but merely swelled.
        Quote: Finches
        So it’s not Efremov who is to blame, but the very essence of the capitalist system

        His dad was a complete drunk, and moreover, the essence of the system.
        1. 0
          10 June 2020 09: 03
          His dad did not crush anyone ... as they say feel the difference!
          1. +1
            10 June 2020 09: 05
            Quote: Finches
            His dad didn't crush anyone

            Beware of the car - he has learned it well, apparently, unlike his son.
            1. +4
              10 June 2020 09: 09
              Because he lived in the USSR, he knew that neither talent nor titles could be saved if the permissible line was crossed ... And today, the Show must go on! And even from the death of a person there will be a show and someone will make money on it! Complete lack of spirituality!
              1. +1
                10 June 2020 09: 12
                Quote: Finches
                Complete lack of spirituality!

                I agree completely.
                1. +3
                  10 June 2020 12: 16
                  How many angry words, colleagues! I will add my thoughts too.
                  Over the past 30 years, many artists widely known in the Soviet era have quietly died - either not in demand by the dirty era, or who did not want to get dirty in it (in her films, theater productions, concerts). Those who quickly realized what the thief had come to power needed survived. And it was necessary for that thief to appear before society as a stronghold that cannot be shaken, moved, and even more so destroyed. Yes, we are scum, we are rascals, we can be hated, we can be laughed at and we will allow you all this, but we have come forever whether you like it or not. Forever, you know? Forever...
                  It is this passionate desire of the anti-popular political system to break out of the era of democracy and gain a foothold in our country forever and the scum from art has caught the "artist's instinct", replacing culture with pseudo-culture, turning culture into a takeaway commodity according to the lackey principle "What do you want?" And when you are a lackey in front of a lord, and even a thief, then you are a lackey with an appropriate worldview, morality and ethics. But here's the problem! Lord thieves consume at their corporate parties only what is popular among the people, for unpopular, albeit servile acceptable, they will not pay money off. So, subtly and unobtrusively hammering into people's heads the idea of ​​the immortality of thieves, which can cause rejection, it was necessary to corrupt their audience morally and ethically to the point of accepting this idea. After all, only in this case a wide audience will arise, providing the desired popularity, which is what our bohemia has been doing diligently all these years. But by corrupting, you are corrupting yourself. First you are a hypocrite for the loot, and then you are firmly convinced. That we have in the person of Ephraim - only one of thousands of the same.
                  However, society for the most part, even consuming the "creative product" of the bohemian get-together, resisted the temptation of dehumanization and now, taking Efremov as an excuse, angrily demands for a worthy answer not only the "defendant", not only the whole lackey crowd, but also those who behind it all is. For every worthy citizen has long felt like a victim.
                  1. +3
                    10 June 2020 12: 48
                    Quote: depressant
                    It is this passionate desire of the anti-popular political system to break out of the era of democracy and gain a foothold in our country forever and the scum from art caught the "artist's instinct"

                    Russian creative bohemia of any era did not differ too much from each other. In the era of democracy, the same actors and actresses drank drunkenly, explained this phenomenon in this way ... we were strangled, strangled, which means lack of freedom of creativity.
                    They got the freedom of creativity, and they drink drunkenly, as they drank, and they drink. And, no thieves, oligarchs and political system have anything to do with it.
                    Hypocrisy, that’s the reason.
                    1. +5
                      10 June 2020 13: 28
                      Agree. And during the Second World War, according to Maya Plisetskaya, many artists of Moscow calmly waited for Hitler. They didn’t care in front of whom to sing, dance and stage plays. But the current era has especially liberated them, ripped off their masks, and their essence crawled out - servants of the one who pays especially well.
                      1. +2
                        10 June 2020 13: 43
                        Quote: depressant
                        But the current era has especially freed them

                        Yes, corrupted by big money and permissiveness, which was not there before.
                        They became full and insolent.
                        M. Efremov is a sick man, he had to be treated, he is a drunk man, and some call him a grandiose actor.
                        Everything is turned upside down.
    4. -1
      10 June 2020 11: 00
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      This is not a victim of the regime, this is a drunk.

      Alcoholic ...
    5. +1
      10 June 2020 12: 15
      Quote: Ilya-spb
      This is not a victim of the regime, this is a drunk.

      One gets the impression that they are recognized as insane. ("Hey psycho, where are you going like crazy?")
      He earns his "a lot of money" at corporate events.
      It is necessary to collect money for the funeral of the victim.
      1. Alf
        -1
        10 June 2020 20: 12
        Quote: iouris
        One gets the impression that they are recognized as insane. ("Hey psycho, where are you going like crazy?")
        He earns his "a lot of money" at corporate events.

        Wait a minute, they will file a lawsuit against the spouse of the deceased, they will find the reason ...
    6. +4
      10 June 2020 12: 19
      "His acting talent made everyone believe that he was drunk," everything was so reliable that even alcohol in the blood was discovered. laughing You have to answer for everything.
      1. -3
        10 June 2020 23: 07
        His acting talent made everyone believe that he was drunk

        But read "Razor's Edge" by a writer of the same name: a good psychologist will convince anyone that the certificate says not 0,0 ppm, but 2,1!
        1. 0
          11 June 2020 21: 38
          Judging by the minuses, not everyone loves the writer Efremov. Or sarcasm is not accepted by society ... request
    7. +1
      12 June 2020 10: 21
      First of all, it’s an ub.lu.dok.
  2. +4
    10 June 2020 07: 49
    The episode, next and next.
    Pf-e, to blame, let him sit where it should be.
    1. +13
      10 June 2020 08: 01
      Quote: rocket757
      The episode, next and next.

      The fact that the whole bastard .. the "bohemian" will in every possible way shield his drunkard is not surprising, because they are all there - drunks, drunks, cocaine users. But the rotten opposition, the more cunning one, will blame society, the authorities, the state, and will represent the murderer as a victim of the regime. It is necessary to punish according to the law, in spite of any lamentations of any filth.
      1. +6
        10 June 2020 08: 36
        By law, you deserve it and get it.
        1. +5
          10 June 2020 09: 05
          It’s always annoying when artists, figlars, then I ask what they think negative about politics, about Russia, about culture. Why, --- it is not clear ... And in the deputies they are for what ....
          Quote: rocket757
          By law, you deserve it and get it.

          Greetings, Victor! hi
          1. 0
            10 June 2020 09: 35
            Greetings Dmitry soldier
            Let's discuss something more pleasant / difficult / necessary ... a nice topic for me tf-y, forget it.
      2. 0
        10 June 2020 08: 56
        Yeah, the staunch oppositionist Simonyan has already noted
        1. +2
          10 June 2020 09: 58
          The article almost leitmotif was the weaving of the opposition to the defense of this addict. The fact that the brave Simonyan was the first to speak in defense is nothing, the main thing is again to throw a known substance on the opposition. Although it is not very clever to a person it is clear that giving out the opinion of the silly Sobchak, who has long been not a real oppositionist, for the opinion of the entire opposition is simply silly.
          1. +4
            10 June 2020 11: 14
            Quote: Freemason
            and not very intelligent person understands that giving out the opinion of the silly Sobchak, who has long been no real oppositionist, for the opinion of the entire opposition is simply silly

            You write about "the opposition", as about something real and generalized, whole ...
            1. 0
              10 June 2020 11: 33
              The author of this article writes this way, well, and many commentators, the words of his wife Efremov from the opinions of all people of certain political views are not able to distinguish
              1. +4
                10 June 2020 19: 46
                I would like to add one more thing. Bohemian brethren do not exist on their own, developing solely from hypocrites. The community, called the high-society party, also includes many dubious personalities who pump the faces of people with ideas of the same dubious nature.
                For example, such was Bozena Rynska. Who remembers her now? I remember. The grotesque oppositionist and party girl made an enchanting show on Bolotnaya Street, enthusiastically singing "Internationale" when she was pushed into a paddy wagon. But the trouble is - she did not know the word and demanded on her mobile phone to be prompted to her. Everyone around was laughing! I was disgusted. These people from the "beau monde", in which all the actors are so eager to get and always fall - these people, posing as revolutionaries, are ready to attach any idea to their mercantile needs, speculate at least with communist slogans, even with the notorious capitalist set, including freedom of speech , the idea of ​​a society of equal opportunities and the admissibility of any defect as a manifestation of personality traits given by nature, which cannot be suppressed. Since the time of Bolotnaya they have learned a thing or two, have become more cunning, use the needs of a really not-so-well-fed people as slogans in their well-fed "walking protests", disguise themselves as "friends of the poor" and even their "defenders". From the assumption that the unsatisfied population bought into their deceitful care, the conclusion of the bohemian crowd as part of the false opposition follows that in the event of the outrage they have created, we will stand up as a wall to protect them. Only all these actors and those around them turned out to be not so smart. Didn't calculate the result. The people know their true value. They got a mistake!
  3. +12
    10 June 2020 07: 50
    They even dragged along something about "autos and special services". All these absurd statements in style - Mr. Efremov "was personally instructed in the Kremlin to pour alcohol into his mouth
    All actions of liberals and "creative intelligentsia" are predictable, we talked about this yesterday. Soon the western press will raise a howl, such as "The Kremlin regime removes the unwanted", in general, "Freedom to Yuri Detochkin" and punish those responsible. With such a pace, they will soon acquit all drunks in Russia, who will also be made "victims of the regime", as if they are sitting in the Kremlin and thinking about who would next pour you a sip of half a liter of vodka. It's hard to imagine what state the protesters themselves have reached. In the video, everyone saw the state of this "genius actress". Besides the fact that he was "in the trash", they also found "nonsense" in his blood. Go ahead guys democrats, show the world what you are.
    1. +2
      10 June 2020 09: 16
      They say that Misha was everywhere followed by an FSB officer and, by Putin’s personal decree, poured white powder into vodka.
      1. 0
        10 June 2020 10: 38
        Not just rained, but also forced to drink it swill threats to deprive vodka wassat
  4. +3
    10 June 2020 07: 50
    I drank, most likely, a milkshake, a glass of vodka 2-3 drops of milk.
    Considering the views of the at times sober actor, the statements of both liberals and "untouchables" are not surprising.
    And the "eloquent" silence of colleagues.
  5. +4
    10 June 2020 07: 51
    And what, this one will also be * innocently ... *, there they will remember about 1937.
    In RUSSIA, maybe someone is embarrassed to justify a drunken driver who killed another person and at the same time wonders that someone has a claim to him. But abroad do not hesitate to form from him * the victim *.
    1. +1
      10 June 2020 08: 14
      Quote: Vasily50
      In RUSSIA, maybe someone is embarrassed to justify a drunken driver who killed another person and at the same time wonders that someone has a claim to him. But abroad do not hesitate to mold from him * the victim *

      Someone in the West can and will begin to sculpt a sacrifice, but you can imagine someone from the western actors drunkenly killing a person so that they begin to justify them. In the United States, if you violated traffic rules and ran into a fine, and as always, the fine is seized in court (God forbid the federal), then neither your colleagues nor neighbors will greet you.
      1. +11
        10 June 2020 08: 22
        you can imagine someone from the western actors drunk killed a man to begin to justify them
        But you can imagine how a seasoned recidivist thief, a robber is buried throughout the country in a golden coffin and is called a national hero. Which country are such and heroes. So is the whole west.
    2. +2
      10 June 2020 12: 27
      Quote: Vasily50
      And what, this one will also be * innocently ... *, there they will remember about 1937.

      No, I don’t remember exactly 1933. Sochi a truck crashed into Stalin’s car, the driver escaped and found the one who drank with him, and he got 4 years for letting the drunk drive. Of course, after a while, the driver was found.
      Maybe a journalistic investigation (not Soloviev and Simonyan) will help to reveal where he drank, with whom he drank, who these people are, where they are. AND WHY ALLOWED IT TO HIM TO GET IT DRIVING?
      Quote: Vasily50
      In RUSSIA, can anyone be ashamed to justify a drunk at the wheel

      DRUNK DRIVING THIS IS A POTENTIAL KILLER!
      !
      Quote: Vasily50
      But abroad do not hesitate to form from him * the victim *.

      Nobody knows him abroad. for them he is no one.
  6. +22
    10 June 2020 07: 51
    Efremov simply degraded from drunkenness ... and the fire water of any bottling makes a piece of shit out of a normal brow once. Well, the behavior, comments and excuses on this matter of our variegated bohemian-vip-freaks with loot once again proves that their human essence is at absolute zero. Nasty and sad. The family of the murdered Ephraim - condolences, and the wife of Ephraim and her ilk wish to buy their brains.
  7. HAM
    +3
    10 June 2020 07: 52
    Nothing changes: at all times the "opposition" is made of criminals "fighters against the regime" ...

    "Yes, who will plant him - he's a monument!" @ ....
    1. +4
      10 June 2020 07: 59
      Quote: HAM
      "Yes, who will plant him - he's a monument!" @ ....

      If "a thief must sit," then a murderer - even more so. Article from 5 to 12. Drunkenness is considered an aggravating circumstance, which means you must get it in full.
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  8. +8
    10 June 2020 07: 53
    alcoholic degenerate killed a man, the hero of the day, a star .... angry
    1. +1
      10 June 2020 10: 13
      This is it from the role, such a role!
      1. +2
        10 June 2020 22: 23
        Baloo, I'll clarify: the antihero of the day. Because he was supposed to be good, but he was evil. And therefore such a resonance. The murder of a person became an excuse to recall everything, not only to the murderer Efremov, but also to the totality of the murderers of morality and ethics from the stratum of the so-called "creative intelligentsia." People are boiling!
        By what right did these bastards deprive me of the opportunity to watch TV? Advertising that promotes a lifestyle that the overwhelming majority of the population cannot afford, is overstepping all boundaries with loudness and impudence. Shows vile in their vulgarity and immorality. Series, the plots of which gradually inspire the inviolability of evil, and if good wins in them, then only within its boundaries, then it bears its stamp - the boundaries of evil remain inviolable! This entire set of "creative delights" is essentially a waste of culture, its garbage dump, fattening both at the expense of the state and at the expense of those who fatten especially abundantly at the expense of the state, sucking all the juices out of it. Many people understand this, and the untouchability of this dump and its manufacturers really enrages.
  9. +2
    10 June 2020 07: 54
    Or maybe this is a chance for Efremov to film the masterpiece and redemptive "Tragedy of a strict regime" or just a general one in the zone ...
    1. DVR
      +3
      10 June 2020 09: 45
      Or maybe this is a chance for Efremov to film the masterpiece and redemptive "Tragedy of a strict regime" or just a general one in the zone ...

      It is advisable that his role be under the key or near the bucket.
  10. +6
    10 June 2020 07: 54
    Our "liberal opposition" is unlucky for "heroes" ...
    1. +2
      10 June 2020 08: 05
      Quote: svp67
      Our "liberal opposition" is unlucky for "heroes"

      Everyone has their own heroes. Liberals have perverted notions of heroism. Is it possible for a normal person to call the “drug-alkanaut” who killed the person a hero, a hero ???
      1. +3
        10 June 2020 08: 08
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Is it possible for a normal person to call the “drug-alkanaut” who killed the person a hero, a hero ???

        So the question is, who are they, those people who are going to make a sacrifice from him ...
    2. 0
      10 June 2020 08: 20
      Quote: DeKo
      The press of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, have already said that it was an action by the FSB, in order to discredit liberal Efremov. Simonyan behaved very badly

      It would be too optimistic to expect anything else from these "press". They, of course, are not like the brainchild of Dr. J. Goebbels, but his spirit hovers over them invisibly and stinks.
      1. DVR
        +1
        10 June 2020 09: 48
        Of course, they are no match for the brainchild of Dr. J. Goebbels, but his spirit invisibly soars and stinks over them.

        They already Goebbels grandfather can teach a lot, worthy successors.
  11. +2
    10 June 2020 07: 57
    How from the Efremov who arranged the drunk accident, the network began to “sculpt” the victim of the regime
    Right The artistic brother-right-wingers, caught him, twisted him, and well, to pour in him a nasty vodka, vodka, br-r. Well, you know. feelIn short, you need to fold. Sausage poor and misunderstood.
    "Brilliant actor" fool as they say, in dungeons. It is a pity that no less "genius" K. Raikin has not been noticed, he would have kept him company.
    1. +1
      10 June 2020 08: 41
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Right The artistic brother-right-wingers, caught him, twisted him, and well, to pour in him a nasty vodka, vodka, br-r. Well you know

      They were envious and intriguers embroiled in confidence, and led them, you know, Major pronin .... So he coke and poured
  12. +2
    10 June 2020 07: 58
    "Drunk Driving, Potential Killer"
    I do not understand why there are so many words in this article.
    1. +2
      10 June 2020 22: 40
      Because there is a destabilization of society in the light of the coming changes. Didn't you, colleague, notice this? The former and current governors pushed themselves out with their "special" selfish opinion, the drunken mumbo jumbo barked as an expression of the hopes of the hidden oligarchic rabble, there is an invisible struggle between the concepts of the country's further development. It hurts on society and it must openly confront all the accumulated dirt that has suddenly surfaced.
  13. -2
    10 June 2020 08: 02
    The press of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, have already said that it was an action by the FSB, in order to discredit liberal Efremov. Simonyan behaved very badly
    1. 0
      10 June 2020 09: 07
      Quote: DeKo
      Simonyan behaved very badly

      "Gulchatay" opened her face a little ... wink
  14. +5
    10 June 2020 08: 04
    In a fatal accident ... who committed in an alcoholic state to recognize Killer. 10 years definitely. And yet ... It is necessary to introduce criminal, administrative responsibility as well for those who did not stop the drunk from driving (inaction resulting in death). Could ... could not ... prevent the investigation from being established.
  15. +2
    10 June 2020 08: 06
    Instead of admitting that Yefremov committed a crime, the "creative public" is trying to mold him into a "new victim of the regime", in fact making it clear that the death of an ordinary driver is nothing more than an "annoying misunderstanding"

    The victim is unlikely to succeed. He does not look like a victim, with clear signs of alcohol toxicosis. The "audience" is trying to grease the drunk, but they don't care if there were victims or not. Tomorrow, the "public" can easily be in the place of Efremov (he fiddled with his surname) and they know it.
  16. +7
    10 June 2020 08: 07
    And house arrest for the death of a person, is it that he would comfortably pour grief with whiskey? And then this "homework" will be credited to him in time, and by the time of the verdict it will not be calculated for a couple of months.
    1. +5
      10 June 2020 08: 21
      By and large, the case can be sent to court, within the time frame established by law, after 2 months, but I am sure that lawyers will delay it in every possible way, demand a bunch of unnecessary examinations and so on, provide certificates that he is ill and cannot participate in investigative actions ..but if for garlic, forensic examination of the deceased, examination of Efremov, autotechnical examination, interrogation of witnesses, recognition of the victim's legal representative of some of his relatives, clean accusation, accusation and in court ... all ... cases are garbage, but Alas, it will last a long time, but I would have been in a pre-trial detention center, then there with terms is stiffer and control is stronger ... although ... it may have changed now, but in my time, if the arrest case is there you only scratch yourself in time. And about the "victim of the regime." What a victim he is ... a drunken man, nothing more.
      1. +8
        10 June 2020 23: 21
        In 2 months we have not even stolen a bag of potatoes, with full awareness and the conclusion of a pre-trial agreement is not being investigated.
        He has a particularly serious article - according to Art. 109 of the Code of Criminal Procedure may be detained 18 months before the presentation of the Case for review. In practice, the consequence of these terms comes from. They will no longer hold out, but much less too. And the terms are being spoiled - they are released the next day. With this, and now strictly.
        And in the pre-trial detention center he doesn’t make sense now. He’s going to the planer after the trial, so he won’t shine for a day and a half. And under house arrest, even so, at least for 2 days he swelled at home - 1 day counted off.
    2. -4
      10 June 2020 08: 28
      And house arrest for the death of a person, is it that he would comfortably pour grief with whiskey? And then this "homework" will be credited to him in time, and by the time of the verdict it will not be calculated for a couple of months.
      So this is because liberalism does not begin on the echo of the matzah, but in the Kremlin and the State Duma. Otherwise, where is such a leaky legislation? For myself, we have done our favorite loopholes.
      1. +6
        10 June 2020 08: 39
        Quote: Pilot
        So this is because liberalism does not begin on the echo of the matzah, but in the Kremlin and the State Duma. Otherwise, where is such a leaky legislation?

        Oh, don’t start here these philosophical graters for universal generalizations, there is a drunk who committed an aggravated crime that entailed the death of a person. He must be punished. Given his status and loudly obsessive claims to moralizing - punish exemplary.
        1. 0
          10 June 2020 09: 24
          ,, necessary-necessary ,, - So get involved in exemplary punishment, which is what the captain-evidence included. Or are you not power? Then shout louder, maybe shout to power through the laughter of drunken judges and security officials.
        2. +7
          10 June 2020 23: 39
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          there is a drunk who committed an aggravated crime

          Let's be precise.
          He has no aggravating circumstances. Oddly enough this sounds to an unprepared layman.
          Let me explain.
          Criminal Code Article 63. Aggravating circumstances
          ...
          2. If an aggravating circumstance is provided for by the relevant article of the Special Part of this Code as a sign of a crime, it in itself cannot be re-taken into account when imposing a punishment.


          And the presented to him part 4 of Art. 264 already contains the sign of "drunkenness" and the second time it will not be taken into account. So the verdict will say that there are no aggravating circumstances.
          / Unless of course other aggravating ones are sewn, except for intoxication, and there are already seventeen of them in article 63 /
          1. +7
            10 June 2020 23: 59
            And the lack of aggravating is actually very important.
            Surely, if the hospital fails, the lawyers will try to apply Art. 62 of the Criminal Code:
            ...
            2. In the event that a pre-trial cooperation agreement is concluded in the presence of mitigating circumstances provided for by paragraph "and" of the first part of Article 61 of this Code, and no aggravating circumstances the term or amount of punishment may not exceed half the maximum term or amount of the most severe type of punishment provided for in the relevant article of the Special Part of this Code.


            That is, he has not been from 5 to 12 years. And from 5 to 6, which is very important.

            There are many nuances.
  17. +1
    10 June 2020 08: 08
    This is what the "bloody regime" is. So he strives to put the murderer behind bars, and the liberals do not like it.
  18. +7
    10 June 2020 08: 28
    Who would know this ordinary actress without his dad? Snickering buffoon, the red price to him on market day is 10 years in prison and 5 years in a penal colony.
  19. -1
    10 June 2020 08: 29
    Considering that Simonyan was one of the first to rush to his defense, the problem is not that he is an "opposition".
    A bohemian party doesn’t give up.
    1. +6
      10 June 2020 08: 46
      You carefully read what Simonyan wrote and what she meant .. well, her presentation style came out like that, she didn’t whitewash him-Efremova .. You read again, do not be lazy
      1. +2
        10 June 2020 08: 49
        I didn’t write that I whitewashed.
        Nevertheless, the general message to protect him is viewed without problems.
        I had no doubt that she could write in a veiled way, an experienced person.
      2. +4
        10 June 2020 09: 13
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        You carefully read what Simonyan wrote and what she meant .. well, her presentation style came out like that, she didn’t whitewash him-Efremova .. You read again, do not be lazy

        No, Andrei, her statement was clearly read to me in defense of Efremov. Hypocritical, as for me. But you may have your own opinion and not necessarily the most correct. hi
        1. +1
          10 June 2020 09: 17
          Well, I realized for myself that she is sorry for both Efremov and the deceased, she is sorry that the accusers themselves do the same thing .. you know everyone’s sorry, but what happened is a tragedy .. I understood so .... there are of course that generally bear a blizzard about a plot and so on, but where in the village without a fool then ..
          1. +2
            10 June 2020 09: 24
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            there are of course who generally carry a blizzard about a conspiracy and so on, but where in the village without a fool then.

            These will now be exponentially. So let us listen to them, for as Peter 1 said:
            “If you please, declare at the congress in Polat all the ministers who are going to konsilia, so that they write down all sorts of affairs that they advise, write down and with each hand the minister signs that it is necessary, it is necessary and by no means determined any business, because stupidity will be revealed ”
    2. +1
      10 June 2020 09: 41
      Quote: Avior
      A bohemian party doesn’t give up.

      And also, the best friends of alcoholics are drinking companions. It was necessary to live up to such times when jesters and buffoons began to live better than a working person, gifted with rights and affection for the authorities.
      1. +4
        10 June 2020 11: 39
        They used to live better, these jesters and buffoons. Utesov received more than Kurchatov.
  20. +3
    10 June 2020 08: 32
    What is there to write. Tragedy .. killed an innocent man, destroyed his life as well. Although, Misha destroyed her much earlier. That is why I told myself many years ago that you don’t know how to drink, you don’t need to start. In life there are enough ways to brighten up gray everyday life in a much more healthy way. Well, one must ask relatives why they didn’t sound the alarm, they allowed the drunk to go. After all, this could not but lead to tragedy. I am sure that the police knew .. hehanki yes khahanki, a great actor, ace on the brakes .. the result is terrible.
    1. +9
      10 June 2020 08: 42
      Quote: Angrybeard
      Well, one must ask relatives why they didn’t sound the alarm, they allowed the drunk to go. After all, this could not but lead to tragedy.

      90 fines per year? Out of 60, 45 were paid for this year. Questions?
  21. +5
    10 June 2020 08: 42
    Stalin is not enough in this country; he would quickly put things in order. This bohemian and liberals have already got everyone, they decide everything for money. This lady with a horse's face came out to defend herself, another one! Russian society is driven away, and this is only the beginning. Now the others are still singing loudly, is Navalny still silent?
  22. -1
    10 June 2020 08: 43
    Professor Preobrazhensky said correctly ... you don’t need to read the media in the morning ... savor all indecency ... it’s clear that it’s their bread ... they’re advertising under the guise ... but what have we to do with it?
  23. +3
    10 June 2020 08: 46


    There is a good song on this subject.
  24. +8
    10 June 2020 08: 47
    Killer and drunk. For 10-12 years, send down the taiga - another person will come out. And the rest is a lesson. But I’m afraid I’ll follow the best practice - endless investigation + endless courts, appeals, and then after a year the severity subsided.
  25. +8
    10 June 2020 08: 54
    I will say what I think. Efremov is to blame without a doubt. Let him sit until the end of days. But ... if someone sees this as social equality before the law, I will laugh in his face. Because, if instead of Efremov, who is essentially known, but only (moreover, he sits like a bone in the throat of the authorities), but is not untouchable. Now imagine that instead of Efremov there was a general of the FSB, or a deputy, or some other shadow cone. Presented? Do you think the law will work for all that? Yeah, well. Swallow and rub yourself, because in Russia there are those who do not touch. They will invent anything, they won’t buy, they’re so intimidating. And there will be no television show, nothing. Zatut news from Libya.
    Efremov is also to blame for the deaths of 30 people on the roads every year? Or those who get a paw from such drunks, and then pass up the chain, and everyone knows about it.
    1. 0
      10 June 2020 10: 25
      So it was at all times!
    2. +3
      10 June 2020 14: 24
      Efremov is also to blame for the deaths of 30 people on the roads every year?

      Did someone incriminate him?
      And we have planted more than one zone of deputies.
  26. +3
    10 June 2020 08: 58
    It is high time to introduce a system of balls (an analog of holes in the rights of the times of the USSR). Three times rudely violated and you are a pedestrian for a long time. And where does the opposition not the opposition, the liberal is not a liberal. Its nodule also covers well. A specific criminal offense for which there is a specific article. And the conclusions from what happened should not be made political, but purely in the field of road safety.
  27. +4
    10 June 2020 09: 11
    It is very significant that many capital lawyers refused to defend Efremov in court ... The circumstances of the case look too ugly and taking on a deliberately losing process is only to spoil the reputation.
    the more odious figures are smeared out. here (in my opinion) the political component comes out - recitation of verses of the orlusha (there was a moment for an answer). Dobrovinsky said yesterday that he knows how to smear it, but will not do it. The measure of restraint was very smiling - house arrest (live - thump - rejoice) for the killer (drunk at the wheel - the killer). Why didn’t they detain them right away, but let them go home?
  28. 0
    10 June 2020 09: 16
    Liberal "obscenity", molding from M.O. Efremova, a victim of the "bloody regime", somehow forgot that this is far from the first road accident involving an actor, it just used to do without corpses. And the artist got away with everything, for some reason the regime was in no hurry to at least deprive him of his rights, not to mention something more severe. The attitude towards Putin and the existing government is a private matter of every citizen, but in any case it should not serve as an excuse for a crime. The punishment must comply with the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, and not the personal opinion of the fans of the perpetrator of the criminal act.
  29. +3
    10 June 2020 09: 18
    All that Efremov did was a regularity, taking into account his drunkenness and rudeness. It’s a pity only the victim.
  30. +7
    10 June 2020 09: 20
    I got drunk in an accident - life deprivation of rights, without the right to appeal. There are victims - a criminal offense. There are victims - classification, according to art. 105 h. 2. Intentional murder with aggravating.
    1. -2
      10 June 2020 23: 03
      Did Efremov have the intent to kill?
  31. +2
    10 June 2020 09: 25
    Yesterday in court, the prosecutor's office requested a house arrest so that Efremov could not put pressure on the investigators! What is this? A clown MAY put pressure on investigators! That is, the prosecutor's office admitted that it was rotten through and through.
  32. +4
    10 June 2020 09: 36
    Ksenia Sobchak commented on the accident involving Mikhail Efremov: “It's not about Efremov. It's about us. ”

    Really. “From a sore head to a healthy one.”
    Something is too much connected with Sobchak: then the ex-KGB officer who has renounced the CPSU will be attached to the case; then they concoct the constitution with all kagal that in twenty-five years it will become necessary to amend it; then they will speak about the Russian people in such a way that at the time to look at them through the articles of the law: “How are Jews different from Russians? "Jews can create a country on a desert site, Russians will make a desert out of everything!" (Narusova, wife of Sobchak); then they climb into the presidency with their "elite opinion" in the Crimea; then tales tell us about the bitter share of the “Russian artist”.
    And, on the other hand, she is somewhere right. It's about us. In our toothlessness and dumb expectation "from a goat of milk". This allows us to adopt such laws and regulations when murder in a drug or alcohol intoxication (in cases of "special importance") is equated with an accidental error. In our country, it is already inscribed in the Constitution that all are equal, but some are more equal. Some may “spread rot” their whole lives for not having a timely replaced passport, while others may not be prosecuted even for anti-state acts, the collapse of the USSR, for example, or ignoring the results of a referendum) ...
    It has already been prescribed how Movshin for the accident with the four girls who died was "exhausted" in the colony for 1,5 years instead of 4; one "famous" actress mixed up the powder with cocaine ... Let's see how Russian justice "punishes" an alcoholic with traces of drugs in the blood ...
  33. +2
    10 June 2020 09: 37
    Acting talent led him to believe that he was drunk
    Yes, he is constantly in this image, not drying out. As far as I remember, he played drunks. Maybe the character whom he played and was not a drunk according to the script, but in the performance of this actor he became him.
  34. +3
    10 June 2020 10: 22
    He’s also stupid. If you haven’t hired a driver
  35. +4
    10 June 2020 10: 30
    And what genius did he play?
    Addict and alcoholic, the behavior of a 15 year old youth
  36. +4
    10 June 2020 11: 01
    The trouble is that the law is not for everyone, some are not punished by others ... It would have been possible to hush up the case, they would have hushed up ... It was not possible. There is a body, there is a case ... Although, what is interesting in the course of consideration, it will not be established that the deceased, before the collision was already dead ... Why am I writing this, I will not forget until now, how this one, which all the laws of figs, because money, knocked down a 6-year-old "drunk" child, who, being in a state of "intoxication" under wheels rushed. To plant this scum, it took a public outrage ..
    1. -2
      10 June 2020 12: 05
      "10 years", "to cut down the taiga", "sour cabbage soup, sweaty bodies",
      But nothing in the prison has a library, but with it
      "manager", and there is a club, amateur performance,
      greenhouse, but you never know what. I had the head of SMU
      Kleiner Zaveliy Rakhmaylovich - in the 1940th young
      the foreman built URs in Bessarabia. How to build
      the Germans showed why the IVS "marked" everyone with vouchers
      to Siberia. And there a young experienced foreman supervised
      construction sites, nothing but a pencil, a drawing and a spoon,
      Of course, I didn’t pick it up. The time had passed, and the war was over.
      Lively and healthy. And it would not be known how he would survive it.
  37. +2
    10 June 2020 11: 22
    credit to the author.
  38. +1
    10 June 2020 11: 39
    Efremov is not to blame, after the first bottle, his little devils forced him to drink further, blackmailed that they would no longer pour
  39. +2
    10 June 2020 11: 58
    Surprising off-scale PR public rascal ... the drunk killer should ALREADY be in prison! And where does the past merit? Is Streltsov stroked on the head ???
  40. BAI
    0
    10 June 2020 12: 17
    1. He has always gotten away with everything, and will let him down now. Someone from the family of the deceased said correctly: "He will serve 2 years in comfortable conditions and get out." That is why he was assigned house arrest until August? The real term has already been reduced by 2 months, because house arrest will count towards a full sentence.
    2.
    The current wife of Efremov categorically refused to let law enforcement officers into the apartment, referring to her husband’s “poor health” and calling him an ambulance
    Do not let the police (policemen)! Yes, at the slightest resistance they endure the door, but here they can’t enter!

    Definitely, the case will be let go on the brakes.
    PS. One can agree with Sobchak: "It's not about Efremov, it's about us." "In us" - all this snickering "elite" wanted to spit on ordinary people. Freudian slip.
    1. 0
      10 June 2020 13: 26
      Quote: BAI
      Yes, at the slightest resistance they endure the door, but here they can’t enter!

      Most likely there is an "elite" house. Well, now the artist will definitely go into a binge.
  41. +1
    10 June 2020 12: 34
    Soldered parasite ... there will be time to sit and think! .. parasite damn it!
  42. +1
    10 June 2020 12: 41
    If you think about it, the regime’s fault is here. A man from Ryazan, an elderly, forced was plowing in Moscow. How many are there? If the entire composition of Stand Up from the "come in large numbers" - Voronezh, Tomsk, etc.
  43. +1
    10 June 2020 13: 02
    ON SUCH SUCH
  44. +1
    10 June 2020 14: 22
    I don’t want to write about this scum. But the line of defense is looming, since it’s not possible to lower the brakes and get to the minimum, they will try to send for treatment the type was insane.
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  46. +1
    10 June 2020 16: 34
    He is a victim of vodka and permissiveness. On the wave of the 90s, we have a division into those who can do everything and the rest for whom the law, which draws. In our country, the majority of the population does not trust the courts and law enforcement agencies, and it is clear why.
  47. +3
    10 June 2020 17: 52
    Remember the story of a drunk boy - the culprit at large as a forensic expert who arranged a forgery or who was not punished did not put anyone in prison.
  48. +2
    10 June 2020 19: 23
    I would have adopted the law: you justify the offender, he goes with him under one article as accomplices after committing a crime (harboring).
    1. -1
      10 June 2020 23: 08
      And if you fly in and such a law is adopted?
      1. +3
        11 June 2020 08: 28
        I will never justify such filth. One can doubt it, one can challenge the evidence, this is normal, but to find excuses for such .... this is blasphemy.
  49. +1
    10 June 2020 19: 23
    What is the artist, even the examination is deceived.
  50. +2
    10 June 2020 19: 58
    I don’t understand one thing. Well, why, why did he drive while being in this state?
    From personal experience, I got behind the wheel in a drunk state, having quarreled with my wife. I went to the dacha. Was, one might say in a state of "passion" Thank God the traffic cops slowed me down, literally on the outskirts of the yard, and thank God. But I have at least some excuse, and I had a little less check in me. But he is after a liter of vodka ???? /

    Yes, after I stopped drinking. Generally.
    1. Alf
      0
      11 June 2020 17: 42
      Quote: Grim Reaper
      Yes, after I stopped drinking. Generally.

      good
      Quote: Grim Reaper
      But mnu has at least some excuse, and I had a little less checkmark.

      Alexei ! Sorry for the fact that my words will seem unpleasant to you, but if, God forbid, then you would have hit someone, could a quarrel with your spouse be an excuse? Would you explain to the family members of the deceased? I apologize again.
  51. +2
    10 June 2020 23: 01
    The examination has already confirmed the presence in the blood (more precisely, in a complex mix of alcohol, sleeping pills and drugs) of this alcoholic “genius” of everything that would warrant a 12-year sentence. However, today’s world is such that you look at the wet-heads, shkolota and “stage masters”, “soul engineers” and other, other, other public will try to take to the streets and shout about another provocation of Putin’s bloody regime... well, what if the genius of the stage from an overdose If you die, they will bury you in no other way than in a golden coffin, like an icon!
  52. +2
    10 June 2020 23: 13
    The main thing is that he receives punishment, like anyone else in his place. No more, no less.
  53. +1
    11 June 2020 12: 02
    To his bunk, to general regime. To us, to Siberia. Away from the centers of civilization.
  54. 0
    11 June 2020 13: 14
    But one can agree with the formulation of the question. The state should have taken care of compulsory treatment of such a citizen long ago. As well as many other equally wonderful characters. And the terrible thing would not have happened.
    1. Alf
      0
      11 June 2020 17: 44
      Quote: Lekz
      The state should have taken care of compulsory treatment of such a citizen long ago. As well as many other equally wonderful characters.

      The fact is that many such accidents happen either to the servants of the people themselves or to their families. Will our legislators pass laws that will act against them personally?
      1. +2
        11 June 2020 20: 00
        You can share your attitude towards the “servants of the people” (if only you knew who you are talking about), or you can treat it calmly. But I never had a chance to see such characters in power.
        Abstract. I remember the sincere indignation of the best part of the citizens at the “privileges of the party nomenklatura”; one such fighter even took a ride on a trolleybus. True, during the period of rabid democracy, based on the totality of what he achieved, they began to call him “the king,” but our man was advanced. It still serves as an icon for some. What do I mean, maybe without fanaticism, but with understanding?
        1. Alf
          -1
          11 June 2020 20: 08
          Quote: Lekz
          “servants of the people” (I wish I knew who else you are talking about),

          Who do you classify all kinds of officials and deputies as?
          Quote: Lekz
          But I never had a chance to see such characters in power.

          But officials and deputies, in your opinion, are not power?
          Read my post above about that “girl” who hit two women at a bus stop in E-burg, who her father was and how it ended for her.
          1. 0
            12 June 2020 11: 44
            I don’t understand why you remember the accident in E-burg. After all, the culprit was not completely drunk and was not under the influence of drugs. Perhaps you don’t know that persons exercising various powers of power in Russia cost 3 million, and with family members – 10 million. And the number of deaths is very high, under 20 thousand. Have you ever visited such a simple thing that these sets inevitably intersect?
            Abstractly. I don’t understand why hired workers, whom you call officials, should be servants of the people. As I understand it, their task is not to please the people, but to fulfill the duties of their position. And to what extent these duties benefit the people is not for them to judge.
            And with deputies, not everything is so primitive. More difficult. Sometimes the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
  55. +4
    11 June 2020 13: 41
    Efremov’s exaggerated “stardom” is not a mitigating factor, but an aggravating one. Because a public person should be a model of moral behavior and an example to follow, and not a bag of degraded crap. Therefore, there is no need to feel sorry for “Mishenka”. There is no one there to feel sorry for. “Mishenka” needs to be soldered for the maximum period provided by law, for edifying purposes.

    Quote:
    https://jpgazeta.ru/aleksandr-rodzhers-o-efremove-trebuem-spravedlivosti-dlya-sergeya-zaharova/?utm_source=politobzor.net
  56. +1
    11 June 2020 17: 59
    Quote: Carte
    This is just an actor with alcoholism.
    Do not make him a mirror of Russian art. There are different people in it.

    Little is written about the real ones. Well, who is interested in Tikhonov? But Oleg Dal is described only from the point of view of his scandalousness. And Channel One, with its garbage idol shaking other people’s dirty panties with voluptuousness, got sick of it. This whole cohort of pissants and show-offs should be collected in a heap, put on a barge and drowned somewhere far away, in the Arctic...
  57. 0
    11 June 2020 18: 04
    The father was an Actor, but this one was a drunken misunderstanding. Oppositionist x...ov.
    I'm not bloodthirsty, but 12 years is the price of a buffoon.
  58. +1
    11 June 2020 18: 13
    Quote: Mercenary
    The father was an Actor, but this one was a drunken misunderstanding. Oppositionist x...ov.
    I'm not bloodthirsty, but 12 years is the price of a buffoon.

    And the father was a scoundrel. Still drunk.... Those who crippled many destinies. So, the son had someone to follow as an example.
  59. Eug
    +2
    11 June 2020 19: 21
    I don’t lose hope of hearing from Efremov himself addressed to the “defenders”: shut up, I’m to blame, I’ll answer... but when you need to show real civic courage, and not make faces on stage, it turns out that this courage and elementary responsibility are just not there ...
  60. 0
    11 June 2020 20: 03
    I think they did the right thing by choosing a preventive measure - house arrest. Firstly, he is not a young man, he is not in good health, he can grunt in his cell. Then the liberal howl will rise incredible. It’s better to let him suffer with his “conscience” at home...
  61. +1
    11 June 2020 21: 15
    This is not Efremov’s first accident while intoxicated... I really want those who did not take away his rights back then to be found and punished... They are accomplices and organizers
  62. +1
    11 June 2020 21: 46
    Well, where is the liberda who makes up 80% of the population of this site?
  63. +1
    11 June 2020 23: 21
    "A thief should be in jail" (c)
    I’m wondering if one oligarch once staged a shooting with a “reward” pistol in a Moscow hotel. For some reason, I have not seen a message about the revocation of his weapons permit and its confiscation. Whereas for two administrative offenses under the relevant article, other weapon owners are deprived of it
    1. Alf
      0
      12 June 2020 16: 42
      Quote: IL-64
      I’m wondering if one oligarch once staged a shooting with a “reward” pistol in a Moscow hotel. For some reason, I have not seen a message about the revocation of his weapons permit and its confiscation.

      Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi.
  64. +1
    12 June 2020 09: 17
    https://avtomir.zahav.ru/Articles/6951/pyanyi_efremov_protiv_lada_est_li_chans_ucelet
    But Andreev reposted the cupcake from Life Ru like the Russian auto industry is to blame for everything, supposedly the Lada is not protected
  65. 0
    12 June 2020 22: 08
    The Lada is a mess, the driver is dead, Efremov doesn’t have a scratch, he’s a success, of course, but our cars are also safe in terms of safety.
  66. 0
    13 June 2020 03: 05
    Some began to make Misha a victim of the regime, others, even earlier, began to mold him into the image of a typical “liberal.” An ordinary drunken traffic accident, there are several of these in the country every day, there is no politics here. And if instead of Evremov it was the son of some minister or oligarch, the media would not even dare to say a word.
  67. 0
    13 June 2020 11: 44
    This is some kind of blasphemy. A mockery of thousands of innocently repressed citizens in 1937, when, following a denunciation of an objectionable person, the “troika” court sentenced him to death or 10 years in the camps without the right to correspond with his relatives! These were the victims of the regime of general denunciation, suspicion and uncontrolled power of the NKVD. And what's that? From such individuals, the current “regime,” as they call it, may lose this power if it covers up their tricks, crimes, murders of citizens that they commit while drunk. Is this what all these descendants of the executioners and perverts of the Gulag are trying to achieve? In all countries, all laws state that drunkenness and drug addiction are aggravating circumstances when committing a crime. What's here? Why do these scoundrels impose their morality on us? Do they want to destroy Orthodox churches again?
  68. 0
    13 June 2020 14: 26
    Much has already been repeated here: “The liberal “public”, molding M.O. Efremov into a victim of the “bloody regime” ...” And where are the cries of “Freedom for Yuri Detochkin”? I wouldn't exaggerate. Sometimes it seems that, stewing in your infighting forum, you are standing up for your own reality (just like your “antipodean liberals”, sitting in your forums, your own). We dug up a couple of some hysterical posts on Echo, a couple of stressful statements from the wife (and almost all wives and mothers begin to lament when this happens - “he didn’t kill it out of malice, he was drunk”). And, yes, I won’t be surprised if “Putin’s guardsmen” take care of Efremov with much greater official zeal than the sons of influential people and Caucasian “princelings” driving around Moscow,
    because he "made illicit speeches." Then he will truly become a “victim of the regime” and will have to demand a fair trial. As long as there is no reason to cry, everything is according to the law.

    Liberalism implies self-discipline and respect for the rights of others (from the right to life to the right to dissent) and the ability to dialogue. And Only self-discipline, personal responsibility and respect for the rights of others allow liberals to demand from the State to limit its interference in the affairs of Society (the “We ourselves!” principle).

    As it turns out, reading caustic doggerel is not enough to be a liberal - first of all, you need to follow the basic rules of traffic rules and not sink to the state of “alcoholic infantilism.”

    What Mr. Efremov did was outrageous. And he should get what he deserves. And if, as you say, he is “smeared out,” then this will be the next strongest blow to the principles of Liberalism, because Liberalism implies (the maximum possible in a given society and at a given stage of development) equality before the law.
  69. 0
    13 June 2020 15: 12
    Quote: Tatiana
    Ksenia Kachalina - the fourth wife of actor Mikhail Efremov, through whose fault Sergey Zakharov, a Ryazan, died in an accident,
    stated that the actor was allegedly framed.

    Meanwhile, Mikhail Efremov is not just an alcoholic, but also just a liberoid traitor to the Motherland.
    His famous and respected dad Oleg Efremov, probably in a coffin from such a son with a groan, always turns over.
    Namely.

    In March 2018, after a tour in Jurmala, artist Mikhail Efremov gave an interview to the Baltic edition, which was not seen in the Russian media.
    In him he spoke about his vision of the relationship between Russia and the West, and also told about plans to move to Latvia for permanent residence (which could be for the better).
    Personally, for example, the West is much closer to me. As you have here, for example. I do not understand this Russia.
    I think I have like thin esthetepurely aesthetic problems with Russia - do not converge in worldview. True, I don’t even see myself in another country, because I work in Russian. Of course, if I knew for sure that they would put me in my homeland, I would have faded. ”,
    - told Efremov, adding that he was seriously considering the option of the next move to Latvia.
    See detail - https://vk.com/wall167291003_34236

    When the dough is immeasurable, you can live in any country, even in Latvia, and water your native land with slop.
    This pretzel, apparently, has never been anywhere except Riga and Jurmala.
    It’s like talking about Russia based on Moscow alone, or rather, its rich areas, and then as a tourist, and as a permanent resident.
  70. 0
    14 June 2020 12: 53
    Let him rest in Kolyma for 12 years and recover from alcoholism and drug addiction.

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