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Ukraine will discuss the war in the Donbass with Bandera, a doctor and ex-prosecutor

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Decent people



It is not known what Kiev is counting on, however, they nevertheless made a decision to "strengthen" the contact group by people who will win back the representatives of Donbass. Well, so that the "representatives", God forbid, do not blurt out something that goes beyond the framework of the official Ukrainian discourse, they were chosen with special care.

DNR will be represented by two Russophobe-Bandera: bloggers Denis Kazansky and Sergey Garmash. Everything is not so clear with the LPR: the absolutely unknown and apolitical traumatologist Konstantin Libster and the ex-prosecutor, the head of the organization "Lugansk Fellowship" (which includes as many as fifteen hundred people) Vadim Goran.

Moreover, if Liebster and Goran nevertheless raise certain doubts and may well upset Kievans with excessive humanity and sympathy for their former compatriots, then Garmash and Kazan certainly will not disappoint. I remember that Garmash said that there will never be peace with LDN, "because they are not us." Kazan called for “neutralizing” all the inhabitants of Donbass who would not want to change and reconcile with Ukraine.

Ukraine will discuss the war in the Donbass with Bandera, a doctor and ex-prosecutor

In general, who else should represent the opinions and aspirations of the inhabitants of LDNR, if not this worthy among those worthy?

Sly plan


It seems that Ukraine is ready to discuss the resolution of the conflict in the Donbass with itself - simply because no one else recognizes the legitimacy of the “representatives” appointed by Kiev. It is not known how the representatives of the OSCE will perceive all this buffoonery (and generally how Western diplomats will like this buffoonery), but LDNR (and, I believe, Russia) will reliably treat the new “representatives” in particular and the very idea of ​​introducing them into negotiations as unacceptable. It is not clear what Ukrainian politicians are counting on, but it is worth recognizing the obvious: in Kiev they refuse to comply not only with the letter of the Minsk agreements, but also to adhere to the formats already worked out.

In fact, Ukraine is trying to completely nullify the existing model of negotiations by imposing its own rules. At the same time, Kiev shows, to put it mildly, disrespect not only for LDNR as one of the parties, but also for other participants and guarantors of the negotiations. It is clear that the show president Zelensky received the directive to go all-in. Question: How long does Russia plan to put up with this? Hopes that the West will pull back the Kiev madmen have melted away a long time ago.

Self-satisfaction in Kiev


What Kiev wants to agree on with itself and what it will give him is not clear. And there is no difference in how stupid this time the Ukrainian "creators" composed. The question is different: what does Russia and the West need to tire of wiping themselves off after the abundant spitting of Ukrainian politics and putting the presumptuous Kievans in their place? In the end, there is nothing surprising in Zelensky’s desire to turn the negotiations into a booth familiar to him, but why do the rest agree to humiliate themselves; why endure such an attitude?

Frankly, this whole epic with invalid Minsk agreements and an arbitrary change in the format of negotiations has grown into an absurd theater, to participate in which is lower than the dignity of any self-respecting diplomat. Moreover, no agreements were reached, except for periodic exchanges of prisoners. Negotiations were probably at an impasse. It remains only to admit this and prepare for the search for other mechanisms for overcoming the crisis. In the past, "boilers" helped well in this matter. How it will be this time is unknown. But it cannot go on like that anymore.
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  1. sleeve
    sleeve 10 June 2020 15: 05
    +3
    Arrived. So what? They will now conclude a control over the border from September 1, suppose. They will be sent. Russia is to blame. Format to shreds. Carnival.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 15: 08
      +2
      Self-satisfaction in Kiev

      Analysis from "Strana.UA"



      Interview with a blogger and politician A. Sharia with D. Pushilin.

      Published today. Currently, YouTube has nearly 200 views and 000 comments.

    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 10 June 2020 15: 20
      0
      Quote: sleeve
      Format to shreds.

      Their problem ...
      It was an opportunity for ex-Ukraine to somehow crawl away without being beaten ...
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 10 June 2020 15: 25
      +1
      Quote: sleeve
      They will conclude now

      Who are they and what will they conclude?
  2. 113262a
    113262a 10 June 2020 15: 13
    +5
    Liebster is a hereditary traumatologist, his father is now in the 2nd hospital department. I don’t know why this doesn’t work in Lugansk - he was offered the position of the main Republican Hospital of the LPR, he left for Kiev in the year 15. In 14-operated and treated militias.
  3. gurzuf
    gurzuf 10 June 2020 15: 14
    +3
    But what if the West swallows it, then Russia also has the right to legally recognize LDNR and conclude intergovernmental agreements. Correct your mistakes with Kiev.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 10 June 2020 15: 21
    +3
    It is not known how the OSCE representatives will perceive all this buffoonery (and how Western diplomats will like this buffoonery),
    .... They will accept and like it ... and you don’t need to go to the grandmother ...
  5. ZaharoFF
    ZaharoFF 10 June 2020 15: 49
    +2
    What Kiev wants to agree on with itself and what it will give him is not clear. And there is no difference in how stupid this time the Ukrainian "creators" composed.

    I sing myself, dance myself, sell tickets myself. "Creatives" from the other side, judging by the selection of clowns and the circus program in general.
    Show of the absurd with human casualties.
  6. sergo1914
    sergo1914 10 June 2020 16: 37
    +4
    A traumatologist will come in handy. Judging by the format of the meeting.
  7. svp67
    svp67 10 June 2020 17: 01
    +3
    Here it is felt that Zelensky is an actor ... and then out of a serious case he decided to arrange a "show", but there will be no case ...
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 June 2020 17: 17
    +5
    I don’t understand what kind of political masturbation they came up with?
  9. Shadow041
    Shadow041 10 June 2020 17: 43
    +8
    If Bandera like to talk to their own kind, these are their problems, but it’s very naive and stupid to consider that the Russians will fulfill their wishes.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 10 June 2020 18: 04
      -4
      Yes, they are already humbly insisting on the implementation of the Minsk agreements by Ukraine
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 10 June 2020 22: 54
        -1
        Well, it's the rules of the game, so to speak ... but they know that we know that ... Promising does not mean getting married. Russia and the LNRDNR insist on compliance with the agreements, only because they are well aware that Kukuev will never fulfill these agreements. Ukraine knows that Russia and the LPRNR are in no way going to implement these agreements. Well, we sat, shouted, drank, had a bite, ran away ... Those who sincerely worry and get angry are Germans and French. they, the real condo, politically correct (well, therefore, complete nerds) will never understand the games of Slavic partners. What is clear to both Ukrainians and Russians with Donetsk residents, Europeans cause only a constant brain liquefaction.
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 10 June 2020 23: 38
          +1
          Yeah, the inhabitants of LDNR and soldiers have been dying for 6 years already.
  10. ANB
    ANB 10 June 2020 20: 07
    +2
    Can we bring our representatives of Ukraine to the negotiations and the representatives of the republics will agree with them?
  11. stalki
    stalki 10 June 2020 20: 28
    0
    The question is different: what is needed for Russia and the West to tire of wiping themselves off after the abundant spitting of Ukrainian politics and putting the presumptuous Kievans in their place? In the end, there is nothing surprising in Zelensky’s desire to turn the negotiations into a booth familiar to him, but why do the rest agree to humiliate themselves; why endure such an attitude?
    How would that be? Substitution of concepts? Excuse me, but what is the west for? Ame_ry and make to spit in our direction, with what a fright they were equated to us in this context. Thank you, we don’t need such a lie, this is an outrageous lie. We are wiping it off, and they chuckling aside.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 10 June 2020 22: 48
      +1
      I think that’s not quite so. Everyone is tired of the ongoing clowning of Kukuev Natsik and beggars, of this monstrous Absurdistan. Ukraine is tired of everyone and is now presenting a suitcase without a handle for puppeteers ... filled with Nazi dirty trash.
      1. stalki
        stalki 11 June 2020 09: 32
        +1
        Not not no, for me such a formulation of the question is not acceptable. Poor, they can’t lift a suitcase. They are all from the same trash now. And the United States, and the state apparatus of Ukraine, and all the riffraffers taken together is one substance. No need to replace positions, we are on the one hand, they are on the other and nothing else.
  12. German Titov
    German Titov 10 June 2020 20: 54
    +2
    Yes, we are simple people. Let them "grind among themselves, between themselves" - "still do not end up, do not rub themselves" (humor 40 - army 83-84). The clownery of the "crazy valley" ...
  13. Normal ok
    Normal ok 10 June 2020 21: 22
    -7
    in any case, it’s better than a regional MMM-box
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  15. LeonidL
    LeonidL 10 June 2020 22: 43
    +1
    Doctors believe that self-satisfaction is bad for the brain, but if there is no brain, then there is no need to worry. Let the Kukuevites self-gratify themselves. In general, it is not clear what this dialogue with the deaf-blind and dumb is about? On the one hand, some "Minsk" gatherings about a certain "special status within Absurdistan" that are incomprehensible to Donbass and to all adequate people, on the other hand, statements by the DPRLNR leadership that their goal is to become part of the Russian Federation. What is the bazaar all about? Well, now these four carcasses ... Complete absurdity! Should normal people from Russia and Donbass participate in it at all?
  16. iouris
    iouris 10 June 2020 23: 47
    -1
    What to discuss? Pour it, drink it!
  17. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 11 June 2020 09: 28
    0
    Here the doctor is really necessary for all these negotiators. Psychiatrist.
  18. Thompson
    Thompson 11 June 2020 09: 58
    0
    Yes, they will immediately be sent left. Whom do they represent? It’s clearly not the LPR and the DPR. Therefore, take off let them speak in Kiev, but in Minsk it is known who the conversation is with
  19. Andrey Vasilievich
    Andrey Vasilievich 11 June 2020 11: 47
    +1
    Not Ukraine will discuss, but the Kiev regime, tricked into power. Personally, as a citizen of Ukraine, I’m not going to discuss anything with them.