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China officially refuses to participate in nuclear disarmament talks

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China officially refuses to participate in nuclear disarmament talks

China will not take part in any disarmament negotiations with Russia and the United States. This was stated by the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China, Hua Chunying.


Speaking at a briefing, Chunying said that China has repeatedly stated its position and does not intend to change it. Thus, Beijing will not participate in any tripartite arms control talks with Moscow and Washington. According to her, the United States, trying to drag China into negotiations, wants to shift responsibility to others.

The US continues to try to drag China in. This is their usual behavior when they want to shift responsibility to others. In recent years, the United States has withdrawn from a number of international agreements (...) and now they are discussing the possibility of resuming nuclear testing. When an official of such a country talks about goodwill negotiations, this is absurd

- she said.

Earlier it was reported that Russia and the United States agreed to hold talks on nuclear disarmament, which will be held June 22 in Vienna. It is assumed that they will discuss the issue of extending the START-3 treaty. As stated by the special envoy of the President of the United States for arms control Marshall Billingsley, China was also invited to the negotiations.


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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 9 June 2020 13: 45 New
    17
    Ну и правильно делают. Прежде всего своя страна и свой народ, а не чьи либо "хотелки".
    1. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 9 June 2020 13: 56 New
      10
      the Chinese firmly decided to sit on the bank of the river .. and wait for something to float past their shore)
      1. credo
        credo 9 June 2020 14: 03 New
        -7
        Quote: Atlant-1164
        the Chinese firmly decided to sit on the bank of the river .. and wait for something to float past their shore)

        In China, all rivers flow either from north to south, or from west to east, and what is unusual about it that can pass by them?
        1. tech3030
          tech3030 9 June 2020 14: 27 New
          +1
          Well, either in a ditty-ax or ..ono.
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 9 June 2020 14: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: tech3030
            Well, either in a ditty-ax or ..ono.

            From the village of Kukuevo? laughing
    2. credo
      credo 9 June 2020 14: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: marchcat
      Ну и правильно делают. Прежде всего своя страна и свой народ, а не чьи либо "хотелки".

      But it seems to me that the Chinese could offer something more original, for example:
      - созыв не трёх, а всех стран мира, имеющих ядерное оружие, включая Англию, Францию, Израиль, или участвующих в ядерных разработках, включая КНДР, Иран, и похоже в этом случае не Китай бы отказался от таких переговоров, а возможно сами США, что и подтвердило их недоговороспособность. Тогда бы Китай оказался "на белом коне", а США можно было бы лишний раз упрекнуть в его воинственности и отсутствии желания к миру.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 9 June 2020 14: 33 New
        +3
        It was just that there was no hope that everyone whom they called would abandon the cuts. And so the Chinese in fact adamantly defend their and only their interests, and not some partners like us there.
        1. credo
          credo 9 June 2020 16: 16 New
          -9
          Quote: evgen1221
          It was just that there was no hope that everyone whom they called would abandon the cuts. And so the Chinese in fact adamantly defend their and only their interests, and not some partners like us there.

          Вот только не надо представлять, что Китай может и в одиночку сдюжить. Это всё мечты. Ведь США не просто так пытаются пристегнуть Россию к своему "элитному клубу 7-ми". Если бы этот финт у них удался Китай оказался бы в кольце недругов с непредсказуемыми для него последствиями.
      2. Nikolai Korovin
        Nikolai Korovin 10 June 2020 09: 32 New
        0
        Насколько я могу судить, арсеналы Англии, Франции и Китая примерно одинаковы и гораздо меньше, чем российский и американский. Все остальные владельцы в сумме располагают, по-видимому, арсеналом в объеме одного из трех "младших" постоянных членов Совета Безопасности. Так что приглашать один Китай явно нелогично. Англия и Франция могут явно не слабее Китая в этом отношении. Так что все-таки приглашать надо всех. В т.ч. и КНДР. Иран пока вроде можно не приглашать. Наличие атомной электростанции - это еще не наличие оружия.В общем, Договор о нераспространении давно приказал долго жить, но почему-то этого никто не принимает во внимание. Нужен новый - и о нераспространении, и об ограничении, распространяющийся на всех владельцев.
      3. gsev
        gsev 10 June 2020 11: 06 New
        0
        Quote: credo
        And it seems to me that the Chinese could offer something more original,

        And what is the point of negotiating with the US to the Chinese? All the same, the United States unilaterally withdrew from treaties with Russia, and also withdrew from the treaty with China. Now the intrigue remains, how many charges does the PRC have, 300 or 3000, what are these charges?
    3. Civil
      Civil 9 June 2020 15: 16 New
      -5
      Why is China negotiating? A thriving and growing PRC with an irresponsible United States and depressed Russia ... there are no parties and bases for negotiations from the point of view of the Chinese leadership.
      1. credo
        credo 9 June 2020 16: 19 New
        -6
        Quote: Civil
        Why is China negotiating? A thriving and growing PRC with an irresponsible United States and depressed Russia ... there are no parties and bases for negotiations from the point of view of the Chinese leadership.

        You have a lot of adjectives in the text and a little semantic load. Everything is not as clear as you imagine.
        1. Civil
          Civil 9 June 2020 19: 31 New
          -2
          Quote: credo
          Quote: Civil
          Why is China negotiating? A thriving and growing PRC with an irresponsible United States and depressed Russia ... there are no parties and bases for negotiations from the point of view of the Chinese leadership.

          You have a lot of adjectives in the text and a little semantic load. Everything is not as clear as you imagine.

          Excuse me, of course, a strong and rich Russia dictates its adamant will to poor and miserable mattresses and Chinas.
          1. nPuBaTuP
            nPuBaTuP 10 June 2020 11: 58 New
            0
            There are no less adjectives, but the meaning has disappeared altogether ....
  2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 9 June 2020 13: 47 New
    0
    The American authorities do not even have faith in their people.
  3. mark1
    mark1 9 June 2020 13: 49 New
    +4
    Why are we dancing around nuclear disarmament? It is most unprofitable for us. In other matters, perhaps out of love for the process.
    1. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 9 June 2020 14: 03 New
      0
      Quote: mark1
      What are we dancing

      Russia will have to participate in these deliberately failed negotiations. The reason is simple - to withdraw, it means giving the US a reason to just shrug it off and say - you see, we wanted, but the Russians refused. But I think the negotiations will end in nothing, the United States wants to get what is beneficial for them and not make the concessions we need, i.e. impose a priori impossible conditions. . My forecast is that a series of START treaties will not be extended
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 9 June 2020 17: 06 New
        -2
        Most likely, START-3 will be extended under current conditions. That is, everyone will remain with their own.
  4. Sergey39
    Sergey39 9 June 2020 13: 52 New
    +6
    Correctly she said. The United States is not negotiable at this stage.
  5. svp67
    svp67 9 June 2020 13: 54 New
    -4
    Earlier it was reported that Russia and the United States agreed to hold talks on nuclear disarmament, which will be held June 22 in Vienna.
    Now, without China’s involvement in such negotiations, it can be concluded for no more than five years ...
    1. asv363
      asv363 9 June 2020 14: 37 New
      +1
      There is nowhere to go below the level prescribed in the START-XNUMX (START) Treaty, which means either automatically renew for five years (the mechanism is spelled out in the text of the treaty), or that's it, Russia does not need any new START.

      Моя позиция не очень популярна среди профессиональных "сокращенцев", однако менять её не намерен.
    2. Nemchinov Vl
      Nemchinov Vl 9 June 2020 18: 13 New
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Now, without China’s involvement in such negotiations, it can be concluded for no more than five years ...
      Now it makes no sense at all (!) nothing and With no one conclude ....
  6. -ш-
    -ш- 9 June 2020 13: 58 New
    0
    hahaha and well done
  7. donavi49
    donavi49 9 June 2020 14: 07 New
    +2
    Well, they have a final solution to the Ladakh issue there, there will be nuclear weapons rather than disarmament.

    Hindus pull everything they can.


    The Chinese also take parts from the north and central Asia and transfer them to Ladakh.





    So far, only fights on sticks and standing face to face.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 9 June 2020 15: 50 New
      +1
      Why China is annoying China, I still do not understand.
      No one will have an easy victory.
      States will be happy by releasing the 2 most populous countries ...
      Testing something is not the case. I don’t understand Comrade X. hi
    2. svp67
      svp67 9 June 2020 16: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: donavi49
      Well, they have a final solution to the Ladakh issue there, there will be nuclear weapons rather than disarmament.

      I don’t think that any of the parties will decide to use nuclear weapons in a local border conflict. And while I more believe in the success of China, its army and the organization in general are more credible ...
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 9 June 2020 17: 13 New
        -3
        The United States wants to divide and dominate. It will be very similar to the Iran-Iraq war of the 80s, but on a much larger scale. I hope it doesn’t reach the use of nuclear weapons. No one draws any conclusions and doesn’t learn from the mistakes of others. Just to shout America with us and into battle. And the Americans provoke conflicts and derive their geopolitical benefits from them, then convert it into their political and financial capital. This conflict is an American trap for both India and China.
  8. steelmaker
    steelmaker 9 June 2020 14: 09 New
    +1
    Then it is necessary to bring England, France and Israel to the treaty. So it will be more honest. And so China is right.
  9. askort154
    askort154 9 June 2020 14: 11 New
    0
    China officially refuses to participate in nuclear disarmament talks

    Number of nuclear warheads:
    - Russia - 7500 pcs.
    - USA - 7260 pcs.
    - China - 260 pcs.
    (for 2018)

    Naturally, China needs to catch up. Knowing this, the USA stubbornly insists on his participation, leading a double game.
    1. Gorecc
      Gorecc 9 June 2020 14: 27 New
      +5
      and this is exactly the statistics of 2018?))

      а то я эти картинки и таблицы где у "бедного" Китая всего 250-280 ядерных боеголовок и его отставании в этом аспекте даже от Франции - слышу аж с начала 2000-х...
      Tobish for so many years, China becoming an economic and industrial superpower could not increase the number of its nuclear warheads? or maybe they even scored on this matter?) Yao think, when in the future a military clash with the United States looms, and nuclear India with territorial claims is also nearby .. who needs it at all laughing
      But seriously, no one except the Chinese themselves knows for sure how many nuclear warheads are real for the People’s Republic of China, but if we talk even purely logically, then there is no doubt that to put it mildly, China should have much more than is customary to say ..
      1. gsev
        gsev 10 June 2020 10: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Gorecc
        in so many years, has China become an economic and industrial superpower unable to increase the number of its nuclear warheads?

        And where could China get uranium to produce plutonium? Recent deposits in Ukraine and Afghanistan are in the hands of the United States. Comrade Stalin back in 1940, organized for the USSR uranium mining in Xinjiang.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 10 June 2020 16: 27 New
          0
          And where could China get uranium to produce plutonium?

          Everywhere. Does Iran take it? Does Pakistan take it? DPRK? bully
          Colleague Gorecc meticulously noticed.
          China has underground tunnels, allegedly 3000 km. And how many China is actually hiding warheads in - nobody knows for sure.
          That jankers fidget. Is it still possible to be rude, or is it already necessary to beware?

          In the fall of 2011, a group of researchers at Georgetown University in Washington, led by Philip Carber, published a study from which two key conclusions followed: firstly, China has a secret distributed system of tunnels with a length of 3 thousand kilometers, and secondly, this network is able to accept (and since it was built for some reason, probably, according to the authors of the publication, it’s accepting) about 3 thousand nuclear warheads.

          https://realt.onliner.by/2020/01/15/china-122
          https://rg.ru/2011/01/20/stena-site-anons.html
          1. gsev
            gsev 10 June 2020 17: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Alex777
            Everywhere. Does Iran take it?

            I suppose that to all countries not included in the friends of the USA, uranium is available only from its territory or the territory of the allies. In China, the problem of searching for uranium ores at one time was acute. For the first time, the actor played the premiere of Zhou En-lai, it seems, in the film about the search for uranium ores.The reduction of nuclear warheads in the USSR and the USA is partly due to the realization that there are few raw materials for their production and warheads may be required after 400 years.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 10 June 2020 19: 43 New
              0
              The reduction of nuclear warheads in the USSR and the USA is partly due to the realization that there are few raw materials for their production and warheads may be required after 400 years.

              I can not agree with you.
              My IMHO is that Obama cut warheads to get the opportunity for a preemptive strike by reducing the number of targets.
              And to increase the significance of advantages in conventional weapons. First of all, in missile defense.
              But it so happened that there was hypersound and Sarmat.
              If it were raw materials, we would not sell uranium left and right.
    2. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 9 June 2020 17: 03 New
      +1
      China does not need to catch up. China did not and does not strive to achieve parity. They are quite happy with the principle of reasonable sufficiency for dealing unacceptable damage.
    3. FIR FIR
      FIR FIR 9 June 2020 23: 38 New
      +1
      - China - 260 pcs.

      Yes, yes, since 1964, 260 bg. Do not make me laugh. AT LEAST 5.000 bg. Confident third place in terms of quantity. Plus thousands of BRDS and OTR, which can be equipped with apple. China has the third nuclear potential in the world, MINIMUM. The maximum is the first, but they know how to keep secrets and go to their goal.
  10. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 9 June 2020 14: 30 New
    0
    Я так и не понимаю почему називают ето "переговори о ядерном разоружение". Точнее будет "переговори о ядерной монополии" двух держав и их сателитов.
    A nuclear monopoly is even worse than complete nuclear disarmament.
    Только полное ядерное вооружении всех стран мира будет лучшая гарантия для сохранения "холодной войни" в международних отношениях.
    1. bk316
      bk316 9 June 2020 15: 23 New
      +1
      Только полное ядерное вооружении всех стран мира будет лучшая гарантия для сохранения "холодной войни" в международних отношениях.

      You write garbage. 2-3 nuclear charges in 404 will not lead to anything good, and in Egypt, a dozen other will not add anything. Here it is necessary that everyone had a level of guaranteed destruction, but this is impossible,
    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 10 June 2020 01: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Я так и не понимаю почему називают ето "переговори о ядерном разоружение". Точнее будет "переговори о ядерной монополии" двух держав и их сателитов.
      A nuclear monopoly is even worse than complete nuclear disarmament.
      Только полное ядерное вооружении всех стран мира будет лучшая гарантия для сохранения "холодной войни" в международних отношениях.

      Aha, uncles from any Somalia, the most that!)))
  11. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 9 June 2020 14: 32 New
    0
    It is necessary to play against the USA dirty, just give the slack and that’s it, the end.
  12. demiurg
    demiurg 9 June 2020 14: 55 New
    -1
    China is putting on land and sea-based ICBMs. This is a direct allusion to the United States. Europe and the entire territory of Russia are covered by the BRDS. And the question is not the number of warheads, the question is in the very possibility.
    As long as Pakistan / India has only BDS, this is just a threat to the bases. It's a shame, annoying but tolerant.
    But if in San Francisco near the earth 1-3-5 megatons crash, the US economy will not survive this. And if there are at least 10 such explosions ...
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 9 June 2020 17: 01 New
      0
      Why sets? Already stand. China fully possesses sea, air and land-based facilities. In quantities sufficient to cause unacceptable damage.
  13. Threaded screw
    Threaded screw 9 June 2020 15: 09 New
    +1
    Bravo was not found among 1.5 billion not a single hunchback!
  14. faterdom
    faterdom 9 June 2020 15: 11 New
    -2
    And why should China, which has all the bargaining chips for the Future on its hands, negotiated with losers, albeit heavily armed? What conditions can they set for him?
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    1. kot423
      kot423 9 June 2020 15: 53 New
      0
      Nu-nu, hope ... Already here, head over heels in lace shorts, they also hoped.
  16. Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 June 2020 16: 00 New
    +1
    China will not take part in any disarmament negotiations with Russia and the United States.

    Did someone naively expect something else?
    Китай не будет ни с кем считаться, особенно сейчас, когда он максимально близко подобрался к своей главной цели - стать "срединным" государством не на словах, а на самом деле.
  17. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 9 June 2020 16: 02 New
    +4
    Ядерное разоружение не в наших интересах, хотя конечно , я всеми лапами за мир. У нас миллиарды вложены в развитие этих технологий , да что там, солидный кусок нашей безопасности зависит от этого "последнего аргумента" , СЯС прекрывали много лет нашего разгильдяйства и бестолковых военных экспериментов и реорганизаций - сейчас отказываться от этого безумие и глупость. Я считаю что нам не следует идти навстречу США в их самострое после развала старых договоров, т.к времена СССР канули в лету -и ядерную гонку США придется вести уже не с одними нами, но также с КНР, КНДР,вероятно в какой то момент подключится Иран . Пусть тратятся . Наша территория защищена - это все что должно нас волновать.
  18. Free wind
    Free wind 9 June 2020 16: 39 New
    -3
    Chineses are our enemies. those who claim that the Chinese are our friends are our enemies.
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 9 June 2020 16: 58 New
      0
      They are enemies who have no reason to support the Russian Federation in any way. But there are reasons to take advantage of the Russian Federation
  19. Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 9 June 2020 16: 56 New
    +1
    China is the only country in the nuclear club that has committed to the following non-nuclear states:
    Китай обязуется не применять и не угрожать применением ядерного оружия против государств, не обладающих ядерным оружием или государств безъядерных зон в любое время и при любых обстоятельствах. Китай является первой из стран ядерного клуба, объявившей о принципе неприменения первым ядерного оружия. КНР не будет первой применять ядерное оружие в любое время и при любых обстоятельствах. Суть стратегии КНР состоит в сознательном отказе от борьбы за ядерный паритет при сохранении за собой технических возможностей для нанесения гарантированного ущерба противнику в случае применения ядерного оружия или ядерного шантажа в отношении КНР. Кроме того, КНР обладает в разы меньшим количеством ядерных зарядов. Учитывая все вышеизложенное непонятно, в каких "переговорах по разоружению" может поучаствовать Китай
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 9 June 2020 17: 15 New
      -3
      China attacked some countries without using atomic weapons. USSR, Vietnam, India. Chinese henchmen, you need to be shot.
    2. Dikson
      Dikson 9 June 2020 18: 27 New
      0
      Why do they need nuclear weapons? They can easily trample half the world with boots .. And they will never agree with the states or with us .. Silent expansion at one moment can turn into concrete attacks on the enemy .. In China there is someone to fight for a long time ..
    3. yfast
      yfast 9 June 2020 21: 55 New
      0
      The Chinese simply fart at the border of any country, and they will not need any weapons in a fair wind.
  20. Old26
    Old26 9 June 2020 19: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: credo
    Quote: marchcat
    Ну и правильно делают. Прежде всего своя страна и свой народ, а не чьи либо "хотелки".

    But it seems to me that the Chinese could offer something more original, for example:
    - созыв не трёх, а всех стран мира, имеющих ядерное оружие, включая Англию, Францию, Израиль, или участвующих в ядерных разработках, включая КНДР, Иран, и похоже в этом случае не Китай бы отказался от таких переговоров, а возможно сами США, что и подтвердило их недоговороспособность. Тогда бы Китай оказался "на белом коне", а США можно было бы лишний раз упрекнуть в его воинственности и отсутствии желания к миру.

    The Chinese will not offer such an unrealistic option. Yes, and we would not agree to such an option. This means putting forward an option that will initially be a failure and for which someone will not agree. For the option is not implemented in principle. The option that everyone will agree to the complete and universal destruction of nuclear weapons is not considered as initially fantastic.

    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    My forecast is that a series of START treaties will not be extended

    Nevertheless, it can be extended if it also remains bilateral ...

    Quote: Gorecc
    and this is exactly the statistics of 2018?))

    No, of course. Even our and American numbers do not correspond to the number of BBs we have with Americans for 2018. Chinese 260 units - a significantly lower figure. This is evidenced by 2-3 details.

    First. The amount of accumulated material (plutonium, uranium) according to open data from the Chinese is about 10 tons of plutonium and 30-40 tons of uranium. And they have only 260-280 warheads. I DO NOT BELIEVE

    The second. The number of carriers of Yao among the Chinese is approximately the following. 98 ICBMs, 72 dual-purpose ballistic missiles (nuclear version, but not nuclear, conventional), 80 short-range ballistic missiles, 48 ​​SLBMs. A total of 298 warheads (if all infantry fighting vehicles with nuclear warheads). If 1/3 with YBG, then 250 BG. And this is taking into account only monoblock warheads on missiles (and after all, some of them have from 3 to 7-10 warheads on warheads). Plus, at least one and a half hundred bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons are not taken into account. That is, the number of warheads should be no less than 350-400 warheads.
    In addition, China has 94 operational-tactical complexes, 189 short-range, about 70 launchers of long-range KLNB (and possibly 2/3 of 72 medium-range missiles with conventional warheads). And this is another 353 - 401 BG. But in the case of a large batch, all these conventional BGs will be replaced by nuclear ones. Then, in total, the Chinese will need at least 800, or even 1000 BG. What you yourself understand is almost 3-4 times more than the 250 Chinese charges voiced

    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    It is necessary to play against the USA dirty, just give the slack and that’s it, the end.

    Предложите свой вариант "грязной игры" против США

    Quote: demiurg
    Europe and the entire territory of Russia are covered by the BRDS.

    Всю территорию России китайские БРСД в действительности накрывают. Из "европейских" стран, китайские БРСД накрывают только одну - Украину

    Quote: demiurg
    As long as Pakistan / India has only BDS, this is just a threat to the bases.

    У Индии уже есть МБР. Она испытывается. Это "Агни-5"

    Quote: demiurg
    But if in San Francisco near the earth 1-3-5 megatons crash, the US economy will not survive this. And if there are at least 10 such explosions ...

    Wow. Their Secretary of Defense believed that the damage that the United States would not survive was 2/3 of the economy and 40 to 60% of the population. Moreover, an elementary calculation shows that the United States will cease to exist as a state when using from 266 to 426 warheads for 165 purposes on its territory. Do you want to solve this problem with 10 warheads? Yes, you are fantastic, my friend
  21. ficus2003
    ficus2003 9 June 2020 23: 11 New
    -1
    Quote: marchcat
    Ну и правильно делают. Прежде всего своя страна и свой народ, а не чьи либо "хотелки".

    The reason is not this, but injustice. China has 300 warheads, and the United States and Russia 1550 each. China is already 5 times smaller with a population of 4-10 times more. You need to be an extreme cynic to demand from China a reduction in nuclear weapons.
    1. boss
      boss 10 June 2020 04: 05 New
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      What justice are you talking about?
      Little to China, has the right and increase the quantity.
      А вот теневой ядерный клуб - Пакистан, Индию, Израиль и Северная Корея, непаханное поле. Для переговоров, где цель одних, это сохранение "статуса кво" и признания ядерными державами, с другой стороны желание контролировать любое количество ЯО, обогащённый уран, тяжёлую воду.
      It is necessary to pull all suspects of possession for bargaining, and not just China
      1. ficus2003
        ficus2003 10 June 2020 10: 56 New
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        For you, justice is also inaccessible as the desire to understand something or reckon with the balance of power.
  22. Old26
    Old26 10 June 2020 14: 57 New
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    Quote: ficus2003
    The reason is not this, but injustice.

    What is the injustice? Is China limited by treaties?

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    China has 300 warheads, and the United States and Russia 1550 each.

    The United States and Russia do not have 1550 warheads, but about three times as many. As well as the fact that China is unlikely to have a number of BGs equal to 250-300, as the media say. I wrote a little higher that there are doubts about this figure.

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    Those. China is already 5 times smaller with a population of 4-10 times more.

    And what, is there already some kind of “person / number of warheads” ratio that the population has already started to use?

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    You need to be an extreme cynic to demand from China a reduction in nuclear weapons.

    А в чем цинизм? Китаю предложили участвовать в договоре. Он отказался, не желая быть связанным какими-то ограничениями. Но любой договор - это компромисс. И если ты даешь свое согласие участвовать в каком-то договоре, то ты обязан следовать его положениям и в зависимости от "потолков" договора возможно и сократить собственное ядерное оружие или средства доставки. Это, уважаемый, не цинизм...
  23. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 11 June 2020 09: 13 New
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    На данный момент ядерное оружие является единственной гарантией невмешательства в дела страны со стороны американцев и вообще Запада. Мы этой гарантией не пользуемся, позволяя творить у себя что угодно, а вот китайцы поступают по другому. Трампу надо "политических побед", одной из которых он сделает сам факт начала хоть каких то переговоров? Ему придется заплатить китайцам за такой шаг, и заплатить много. Причем китайцы хотят оплату вперед, иначе заявление не было бы таким жестким.
    Китайцы молодцы. Это не наша "элита", тьфу...