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Resonant accident with the participation of a drunk Efremov: the actor faces up to 12 years in prison

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Resonant accident with the participation of a drunk Efremov: the actor faces up to 12 years in prison

Russian actor Mikhail Efremov faces up to 12 years in prison for a traffic accident he caused, as a result of which a person died. According to the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, at the time of the accident Efremov was intoxicated.


As previously reported, the incident involving Efremov took place on June 8 at about 23-00 on Smolenskaya Square in Moscow. The actor, driving a Jeep Grand Cherokee SUV, flew into the oncoming lane, where he collided with a Lada car. 57-year-old Sergey Zakharov, who was driving a domestic car, was hospitalized with various injuries, including an open hip fracture and a head injury. He later died in a hospital.

Efremov, who was driving an SUV, was intoxicated. According to some media reports, police officers who arrived at the scene were not able to get an explanation from the actor due to his severe intoxication. It is reported that Efremov, having learned that a person was injured in an accident with his participation, said that he would cure him.

So much hurt? I will cure him. I have money ...

- he said.


Initially, a criminal case was initiated against Efremov under Part 2 of Art. 264 "Violation of the rules of the road and the operation of vehicles", however, after the death of the Lada driver, it was retrained for part 4 of this article, which provides for a punishment of imprisonment of up to 12 years.

Currently, Efremov is on his own recognizance not to report on the application of other preventive measures against him.

Meanwhile, it became known that only from the beginning of this year, Mikhail Efremov was brought to administrative responsibility 10 times for violation of traffic rules.
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  1. Ravik
    Ravik 9 June 2020 11: 41
    88
    The actor is good.
    Man shit.
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 9 June 2020 11: 51
      102
      Well, now the libers will win, like let's forgive the "great Russian actor", he needs to cut off his term, because he is so talented! But in fact, now he's just a killer ...
      1. Infinity
        Infinity 9 June 2020 11: 58
        91
        Is this not the same "actor" for an hour who was 2018 minutes late on stage in Samara in 35 and was drunk? And at the remarks of the audience, he began to swear at them, because of what the performance was inspected by the almost empty hall?
        https://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1989762/

        PS: I really hope that he will be imprisoned if he really is to blame. Everyone should be equal before the law. And if one of the liberals speaks out, they will only reveal their hypocrisy.
        1. jovanni
          jovanni 9 June 2020 12: 13
          74
          Quote: Infinity
          Is this not the same "actor" for an hour who was 2018 minutes late on stage in Samara in 35 and was drunk? And at the remarks of the audience, he began to swear at them, because of what the performance was inspected by the almost empty hall?

          Yes, and in his hatred and contempt for his homeland and the people living in it, he reached an extreme point. First turned into an ever-drunk pig, and then into a killer.
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 9 June 2020 13: 25
          17
          Already a whole wave rushed. In the spirit of him, they set him up, they say that 1/3 of the country drives drunk, you can't put a great folk, the FSB interfered with a "special elixir" in the mineral water and in general he just felt bad.
          They did not keep themselves waiting.
          1. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 9 June 2020 14: 43
            14
            Already a whole wave rushed.

            Kamment from "Echo of Matzo", with a smell -
            wattman
            June 09, 2020 | 10:12
            And what is so bashfully said about the car of the deceased: Wagon.
            Where do such vans are made in which they die in a collision.
            In this case, the driver of a normal car - no scratches!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 14: 46
              +2
              Quote: Rostov Dad
              And what is so bashfully said about the car of the deceased: Wagon.

              Yes, it seems to be an ordinary "heel". Or something like that.
              1. lis-ik
                lis-ik 9 June 2020 15: 28
                12 th
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: Rostov Dad
                And what is so bashfully said about the car of the deceased: Wagon.

                Yes, it seems to be an ordinary "heel". Or something like that.

                Wils this. It is generally not clear how such machines were allowed to operate. Whoever was driving this miracle knows perfectly well that there are barely enough places there and will completely crush it in a decent collision. Regarding the accident, there can be no double interpretation at all.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 15: 43
                  -4
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  Wils this.


                  This is a miracle based on Grants. I wonder how many stars her safety? Or, in general, I guess, and have not experienced?
                  1. lis-ik
                    lis-ik 9 June 2020 15: 50
                    -1
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    This is a miracle based on Grants. I wonder how many stars her safety? Or, in general, I guess, and have not experienced?

                    That’s all the crap on the base of the Lada, docked with the frame van and is the VILS.
                    Previously, they were based on 2105, then 2109, and now Grant went to the move. But the essence remains the same. There are no stars and cannot be.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 15: 54
                      -3
                      Quote: lis-ik
                      and there is a VILS.

                      I don’t argue. With the frontal cabin rests on a stiffer wagon and Khan. Although a full-fledged Grants has security level.
                      1. syndicalist
                        syndicalist 11 June 2020 12: 23
                        0
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        With the frontal cabin rests on a stiffer wagon and Khan.

                        If the van is loaded, then at the frontal, it will also run into the driver from behind
                  2. fraders
                    fraders 9 June 2020 17: 04
                    31
                    when on a hundred, on the forehead, a frame crap, weighing 2 tons, flies in, the safety stars do not care at all, just like pillows and belts
                2. ultra
                  ultra 9 June 2020 16: 22
                  12
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  Whoever was driving this miracle knows perfectly well that there are barely enough places there and will completely crush it in a decent collision.
                  Exactly, and even motorcycles are allowed on public roads, and there are not even seat belts provided. sad
                3. Maximilian37
                  Maximilian37 10 June 2020 03: 24
                  +8
                  And where is the car? Are you one of these? Liberastov?
                  If it weren’t for the VILS, there would be another car or a sidewalk full of people.
            2. Fitter65
              Fitter65 9 June 2020 15: 58
              22
              Quote: Rostov Dad
              Kamment from "Echo of Matzo", with a smell -
              wattman
              June 09, 2020 | 10:12
              And what is so bashfully said about the car of the deceased: Wagon.
              Where do such vans are made in which they die in a collision.
              In this case, the driver of a normal car - no scratches!

              Yes, if it were not for this drunken artist driving a "normal car", then the person riding in the van would have survived, and his family would not have lost a loved one.
        3. Slavs
          Slavs 9 June 2020 14: 57
          14
          Quote: Infinity
          if he really is to blame.

          Are you seriously ????
        4. 4ekist
          4ekist 9 June 2020 19: 43
          +6
          ... And to the remark of the audience began to swear .......

          Allowed acting hamlo.
      2. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 9 June 2020 12: 02
        53
        Quote: Jovanni
        Well, now the libers will win, like let's forgive "the great Russian actor

        not for howling, and I’m almost sure that the punishment with imprisonment will follow. in fact, I should get it in full, but the lawyers will bring money to the family of the deceased and I think they will slap 2 years of settlement colonies and parole in a year, but these are my thoughts and only, I would give all 12 years ..... no matter what kind of actor he is. ... it is important that he KILLED with aggravating !!
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 9 June 2020 12: 45
          16
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          in fact, I should get it in full, but the lawyers will bring money to the family of the deceased and I think they will slap 2 years of settlement colonies

          Quote: Infinity
          PS: I really hope that he will be imprisoned if he really is to blame.

          Quote: Jovanni
          First turned into an ever-drunk pig, and then into a killer.

          yes Just for comparison:
          https://www.gazeta.ru/auto/2018/01/19_a_11618198.shtml
          But in general, it's time to move away from practice when former merits are counted. The law should be one for all: for the artist, for the deputy, for the official, for the ordinary citizen.
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Drunken overslept, but never a fool. Efremov is an example of how you could be born with a golden spoon in your mouth, having all the opportunities for developing talent, and even talent itself, having money, connections, friends, everything for self-realization, so stupidly lowering your own life into the toilet.

          Something often in the field of justice began to fall born with a golden spoon in the mouth (or with a silver in the pope? belay ) Obviously some kind of justice is not "right" ...
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 9 June 2020 13: 12
            +7
            ... so mediocre to flush your own life into the toilet.

            Let them let them down in the forest on the branches of birch.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 9 June 2020 12: 52
          16
          I do not agree with you. Of course, there will be no public statements and requests from this public - they know that murder is murder and I will not substitute. But from the back door, with leverage and with the loot to trample how to give a drink. Of course, I will follow how events are developing. I’m not hope that at least ten of these shit will be slapped. The matter is resonant.
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 9 June 2020 13: 00
            20
            Quote: 210ox
            I’m not hope that at least ten of these shit will be slapped. The matter is resonant.

            resonant and quite simple ..... there is a fact of a fatal accident and aggravating (drunk and more than once) + 100% video of his guilt .... must be put in a week, BUT .... lawyers will be delayed by 3- 8 months (state of health, coronavirus, the judge will fall ill .... and this bastard.. After everyone has cooled down, they will slap at least ..... which is very sad, I personally for the full term, it will be fair !!!
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 9 June 2020 14: 15
            10
            Quote: 210ox
            I’m not hope that at least ten of these shit will be slapped. The matter is resonant.

            It seems like Bochkaryov’s employees slammed in the act, kept drugs in his underpants, pleaded guilty and suddenly ... By the decision of the court, a fine of 30 thousand rubles for possession of drugs ... This seems to be better known, they will now begin to smear him. # they are children hi
          3. Peter is not the first
            Peter is not the first 9 June 2020 14: 25
            +6
            It will be obligatory from the back door, but the "agitated acting bohemia" will also begin to intercede in print, on the Internet and on the air for the "first" stumbled genius actor whose power cannot understand.
          4. Alexy
            Alexy 9 June 2020 14: 26
            10
            In Sevastopol, one businessman from the construction sector knocked down two teenagers to death. At the time of the incident, he was intoxicated. He was given three or four years of settlement, and he was already released by udo, in my opinion, after 1,5 years. The matter was also resonant, at the local level.
        3. PalBor
          PalBor 9 June 2020 13: 22
          22
          Already started to howl. Like, an honest, not good creator slandered!
          1. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 9 June 2020 13: 46
            19
            "... What prevents ... to drip ... a couple of drops of" elixir "...."

            - Something hefty often they "drip" to him ...
            8 - ((
            - no other than that "elixir" for him - a thrill.
            Yes, and ... "he has money" ...
            - we wax everything "in the subject".
            And besides, in ONE - A DRINKED PIG.
          2. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 9 June 2020 13: 46
            +7
            Quote: PalBor
            Like, an honest, not good creator slandered!

            then I apologize, I was wrong ...... such liberals must be driven out of the country ..... and who is this antonich ???
            1. PalBor
              PalBor 9 June 2020 14: 03
              +5
              I do not even know. I found the link in LJ. Yes, the drinking companion is probably from "bohemia" laughing
              1. PalBor
                PalBor 9 June 2020 14: 24
                10
                By the way, the dead guy is my fellow countryman. I personally did not know, but it turned out that there were common acquaintances. A simple working man, children, grandchildren. Therefore, no matter what the verdict of the murderer, Misha must now contain them or at least pay a huge amount (in addition to the term). Moreover, he himself says that he has money before ...
          3. Pereira
            Pereira 9 June 2020 14: 27
            0
            And in the restaurant I ate buckwheat with a Novice. Elixir aggravated. So lucky.
            1. Shkworen
              Shkworen 9 June 2020 15: 32
              -1
              breaking quarantine :)
        4. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 10 June 2020 10: 53
          +1
          Yes, you can forgive under several conditions:
          1. Repents.
          2. He will give ALL his property and money to the family of the person he killed.
          3. Will serve 12 years from call to call.
          4. After serving, he will leave for the monastery.
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 9 June 2020 12: 28
        21 th
        Quote: Jovanni
        Well, now the libers will win, like let's forgive the "great Russian actor", he needs to cut off his term, because he is so talented! But in fact, now he's just a killer ...

        Leave the political cliches. It is unfortunate that the talented actor has ended. Maybe not 12, but he will get 5-6 years for manslaughter.
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 June 2020 12: 35
          31
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Maybe not 12, but he will get 5-6 years for manslaughter.

          Here's what I disagree, "alcohol or drug intoxication" must be considered as an aggravating circumstance
          1. Bashkirkhan
            Bashkirkhan 9 June 2020 12: 45
            +5
            Quote: svp67
            "alcoholic or drug intoxication" must be considered as an aggravating circumstance

            A state of intoxication is not an aggravating circumstance. And and for a long time. This is a qualifying attribute of a particular part of Art. 264 of the Criminal Code. In connection with the dissemination of the facts of the commission of these crimes in a state of intoxication, the need has ripened to introduce such a qualifying attribute of the offense provided for in article 264 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation as finding the person who committed the crime intoxicated.
          2. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 9 June 2020 12: 49
            0
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Maybe not 12, but he will get 5-6 years for manslaughter.

            Here's what I disagree, "alcohol or drug intoxication" must be considered as an aggravating circumstance

            It goes without saying.
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 9 June 2020 13: 11
          32
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          It is unfortunate that the talented actor has ended.

          his father was a talented actor.

          and this one, in the rays of glory, sheared coupons.

          And he was always a pompous arrogant snickering cynical bastard - we recall his drunken boorish antics with obscenities on the stage and after it addressed to the audience.

          He went to this accident regularly and for a long time. and they caught him more than once, then it was necessary to plant him and then save Sergey Zakharov. WHO let go ?! Find and punish them1

          Have you seen the video with this drunken hare? "I will cure. I have money up to me."

          Not a word of remorse, nor regret ..

          He didn’t like him before, but now he died and ceased to exist ....
          assassin...
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 9 June 2020 16: 11
            +4
            his father was a talented actor.

            And with such talent - he was not much better than his own son!
            I still remember his appearance at Oleg Dal’s wedding!
            Although "some are no longer there, and those are far away" ...
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 9 June 2020 17: 36
              -5
              Quote: hohol95
              And with such talent - he was not much better than his own son!
              I still remember his appearance at Oleg Dal’s wedding!
              Although "some are gone, and those are far away."..

              that's it.

              And yes. with all this, Oleg SUCH-did not commit. hi
          2. 210ox
            210ox 9 June 2020 18: 36
            +1
            Here, in this tragic case, I completely agree with you. Where do such villains grow from? The father is the famous actor and director. Oleg Nikolaevich, like all of us, was not without sin, but behave like that, no way. This one will now crawl and repent, I generally for the fact that I would pay my family with the property and their loot to the last penny. And to the prison under the shkonka.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 9 June 2020 23: 40
              -2
              Quote: 210ox
              Oleg Nikolaevich, like all of us, wase without sinBut SO behave no.

              This is the bottom line!
        3. K-612-O
          K-612-O 9 June 2020 13: 33
          +2
          It just goes through the toughest, most recently changed article about traffic accidents, and there at least 7ka shines
        4. Voyager
          Voyager 9 June 2020 13: 52
          +7
          It is unfortunate that the talented actor has ended.

          Not sorry. Be at least three times talented, but if a person is shit, then he is dear to prison.
        5. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 9 June 2020 14: 17
          +6
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Leave the political cliches.

          where did you see politics here ???
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          talented actor ended

          it is very interesting in which films or performances did he show exactly the TALENT?
      4. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 9 June 2020 12: 48
        13
        already howling, on twitter all guano rose
      5. Wolverine
        Wolverine 9 June 2020 12: 55
        +4
        Quote: Jovanni
        Well, now the libers will win, like let's forgive the "great Russian actor", he needs to cut off his term, because he is so talented! But in fact, now he's just a killer ...


        Well, along the way, the liberals will soon end, howl is not howl but the end is the same, you can’t live against the laws of nature, it’s a pity that having lived to an old age I didn’t understand that I would have to answer for everything ...
      6. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 June 2020 13: 13
        12
        Quote: Jovanni
        But now he’s just a killer ...

        In less than six months, he violated traffic rules 10 times, and he was released and released until a murder happened. All these vacationers also need to be judged.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 9 June 2020 13: 44
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          In less than six months, he violated traffic rules 10 times, and he was released and released until a murder happened. All these vacationers also need to be judged.
          What can I say ?! And how many, in general, there were road accidents, when some "major" or "celestial" (who imagined himself ...) drunk, sometimes and deprived of rights (as it turns out later ...), kills people, and even on a pedestrian transition, and only then it turns out that he is "listed" dozens (sometimes, and for a hundred ...) fines (and therefore such a number of violations ...) for tens, or even hundreds of thousands of rubles! And I went quietly without any problems! Long ago, the offense cards were canceled, by which it was possible to determine the "portrait" of the offender and take timely measures! The entire modern traffic rules system is poor, if not vicious! Because of this, innocent people are dying!
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 9 June 2020 14: 14
            +2
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Long ago, the offense cards were canceled, by which it was possible to determine the "portrait" of the offender and take timely measures!

            Well, this is definitely a poor system. I live in a small post-Soviet republic, but there all violations are recorded on the computer from 90 moves, and the amount of insurance and fines depends on the violations. Several years ago, in the village of Kallaste on the shores of Lake Peipsi, the three of them went out at night from friends and sang a song, got into the police. The second guy and I were fined 30 euros, and from the third 50 euros, the answer to his indignation was simple "You have already committed 6 traffic violations, and your coefficient on fines has increased to this level, and all fines, regardless of violations, are applied. this coefficient ". Re-surrenders, deprivation of rights for certain terms and deprivation of rights for life, everything comes from violations and their fixation.
            1. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 9 June 2020 14: 46
              +2
              But I mentioned "days gone by!" What then computers? But the "cards" (coupons?) Were also beneficial to society! But what the hell is going on now ... I don't know, I don't understand! And in Russia traffic offenses are recorded (should, in any case ...) in computer databases! But why will the malicious violators "freely" drive around, still committing violations and not paying fines, until they kill someone - who will explain?
        2. DVR
          DVR 9 June 2020 14: 45
          +2
          In less than six months, he violated traffic rules 10 times, and he was released and released until a murder happened. All these vacationers also need to be judged.

          And so they let them go because the howl would have risen. The entire cultural intelligentsia would be on their ears: "Repression, totalitarianism ...". Look, with Platoshkin, no one began to go into the essence of the matter, whether there was his fault or not, everyone knows everything at once, even here on the website. And this one, too, was an implacable fighter against the regime. He did not like everything, the poor man, he was so sick of the country that the locale did not dry out.
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      7. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 9 June 2020 13: 39
        +1
        Quote: Jovanni
        Well, now the libers will win, like let's forgive the "great Russian actor", he needs to cut off his term, because he is so talented! But in fact, now he's just a killer ...

        Well, you know what country we live in. There have been cases and worse. A person is declared insane and voila, freed. By the way, he was already released on a subscription
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      9. sailor roman
        sailor roman 9 June 2020 20: 10
        0
        In any case, whoever tried, even to the smallest extent, to justify him, it was a "subhuman" who committed meanness, cowardice and an act not worthy of a citizen and a man. No matter how events ended, for most people he ceased to be any significant person, and for himself too ... A stinking insignificance ...
      10. blackice
        blackice 10 June 2020 08: 11
        0
        Liberals may be conquered.
        And I would like that not only the drunk Efremov would answer for his own. It is possible for judges and prosecutors to go there, the golden youth and other "thugs rag" of the servants of the people, and not accuse the troupe of a premeditated collision with a quietly (120 km / h) car driving above the aforementioned individuals.
        Then it will be fair.
    2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 9 June 2020 11: 52
      +9
      A drunkard is worse than a fool.
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 9 June 2020 11: 53
        24
        Drunken overslept, but never a fool. Efremov is an example of how you could be born with a golden spoon in your mouth, having all the opportunities for developing talent, and even talent itself, having money, connections, friends, everything for self-realization, so stupidly lowering your own life into the toilet.
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 9 June 2020 11: 56
          +8
          Quote: Bashkirkhan
          Drunken overslept, but never a fool.

          A drunk durak?
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 9 June 2020 12: 22
            +5
            A drunk durak?

            - so far into the universe philosophers (drunk or sober) have not looked
          2. 210ox
            210ox 9 June 2020 12: 55
            10
            A drunk durak does not sleep. He flies down the street and hurries to kill someone. It would be better to the pillar itself death.
    3. figwam
      figwam 9 June 2020 11: 54
      14
      Everything is forgiven for officials and liberals, but then all these forgiveness then have a bloody end.
      1. blackice
        blackice 10 June 2020 08: 23
        -1
        Liberastam forgive?
        Excuse me, who is this?
        In bulk? So he is periodically planted on a zugunder, and his surroundings are specifically screwed on.
        Who else do you think is a liberalist?
    4. Borik
      Borik 9 June 2020 11: 55
      +9
      Vodka killed many good actors.
    5. Yrec
      Yrec 9 June 2020 11: 56
      -3
      Drank up. Self-isolation, it seems, influenced.
    6. letinant
      letinant 9 June 2020 12: 12
      39
      Quote: Ravik
      The actor is good.
      Man shit.

      Actor, shit and man, SHIT. Check out his recent roles, he played himself, a boor and an alcoholic. I will end it with the words: "I do not like the Soviet people." And we all come from the USSR, he just hates us.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 9 June 2020 13: 16
        +4
        Quote: letinant
        "I don't like the Soviet people." And we all come from the USSR, he just hates us.

        The vicissitudes of nature, when good people have bad children are born.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 9 June 2020 13: 18
        +1
        Quote: letinant
        I will end it with the words: "I do not like the Soviet people."

        Uh-huh. He still grumbles it. Apparently, in the eighties he suffered from the "bloody regime".
        This is what it was necessary to trick then that his father Oleg Efremov hid his son from problems in ... Afghanistan. am Though not for long, but Mishan was there. And yes, I will also end with his words (phrase from the CF):
        "Our people are wonderful. Only people, shit."
    7. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 9 June 2020 12: 14
      -5
      Quote: Ravik
      The actor is good.
      Man shit

      Great is Russia ... Norilsk Polar Drama Theater named after Vl. Mayakovsky is waiting for his heroes.
      Lev Gumilyov “sat” here, the camp theater artist was Olga Benois, played by Evdokia Urusova (actress of the Yermolova Theater), Vitaly Golovin (son of the Bolshoi Theater singer, accused of the murder of Zinaida Reich), Georgy Zhzhenov, Innokenty Smoktunovsky (as a civilian) others. The whole Lviv choir chapel was exiled here. In the camp clubs, the violinist Koretsky played Ravel and Paganini, Sarasate and Bach, the composer Kaydan-Deshkin directed the camp jazz, and among the musicians - the name, for example, Ivan Bacheyev, drummer from the Tsfasman orchestra, assistant art director Gosjaz Knushevitsky.
      1. antivirus
        antivirus 9 June 2020 12: 26
        +1
        yes, in Norilsk it is necessary to build a reservoir, Potanin will ask you to send Efremov to him? to direct for correction by work or only on the stage of a prison tiatrist?
        1. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 9 June 2020 12: 36
          +4
          Quote: antivirus
          send for correction by work

      2. akarfoxhound
        akarfoxhound 9 June 2020 12: 27
        +5
        Compared, squinting, opu with a finger ?! You also tell that from political repression "talent" will go down
      3. 210ox
        210ox 9 June 2020 12: 57
        +6
        Why humiliate honored people. And this shit is a place under the shkonkoy, and not in the polar theater.
    8. credo
      credo 9 June 2020 12: 24
      +8
      Quote: Ravik
      The actor is good.
      Man shit.

      The phrase "The actor is good" as an indulgence to justify the vices that part of the acting workshop suffers.
      But if this phrase is taken as an axiom, then it does not matter that some actor or performer constantly drinks without drying out and sends the audience to three letters, is guilty of the death of an outsider, is seen in domestic violence to loved ones and relatives, pours slops on the country and its residents, because they do not do what he sees and wants and so on, so on, so on in the same spirit, the main thing is that "Actor is good", and everything else does not matter.
    9. iouris
      iouris 9 June 2020 12: 33
      +4
      Shit man can't be a good actor. Directors and actors, as well as producers, work for people, work hard, because they IMPLEMENT real spiritual and moral values. In any case, Mikhail Efremov himself arranged his acting and moral death (unless, of course, I understand something in life).
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 9 June 2020 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: iouris
        Shit man can't be a good actor.

        Yes, who knows ... in March Leshchenko re-coronated the people at parties, and even Malakhov, then he turned the arrows like a child, and the national artist and all that. A good artist, athlete, etc. is not a fact that a person is good, far from a fact.
    10. Civil
      Civil 9 June 2020 12: 33
      +3
      Drunk driving criminal. Already not a young man, the son of the great Oleg Efremov ... ehhh
    11. Terenin
      Terenin 9 June 2020 12: 43
      +5
      Quote: Ravik
      The actor is good.
      Man shit.

      Actually, this phrase is the beginning of the Overton Window. If you didn't know ...
    12. Atlant-1164
      Atlant-1164 9 June 2020 12: 54
      +8
      sorry for his Father.
      The case when the son clearly did not go to his father
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 June 2020 13: 12
        +3
        Oleg Efremov probably foresaw such a result of his son. According to relatives, he almost cursed him.
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    14. Vlad7461
      Vlad7461 9 June 2020 13: 09
      +4
      Here is his father was an actor, and he is so-so, a craftsman
    15. DominickS
      DominickS 9 June 2020 13: 21
      +7
      After the recent, excuse me, vysyra "On Paris", where he starred together with Pevtsov, to call him an actor, like the others who quite voluntarily kept him company, no longer turns his tongue. Once again I am convinced that it is difficult to find a worse anti-Russian rubbish than the one filmed by our directors who are kind to the Culture Foundation.
    16. Swed
      Swed 9 June 2020 13: 29
      +2
      Quote: Jovanni
      Well, now the libers will win, like let's forgive the "great Russian actor", he needs to cut off his term, because he is so talented! But in fact, now he's just a killer ...

      Oleg Nikolaevich Efremov, was a great talented actor and a wonderful person - and this is so ..... miserable ... not even a semblance ....
      1. tatarin1972
        tatarin1972 9 June 2020 14: 55
        +7
        Oleg Nikolaevich Efremov was also an alcoholic, like his son.
    17. Sibguest
      Sibguest 9 June 2020 14: 30
      0
      Sergey, hello.
      With all due respect: Does he have many good roles? (not from modern Chernukha).
      His father is deceased (earth rest in peace): here was the Actress, Director Man!
    18. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 June 2020 15: 32
      0
      Quote: Ravik
      The actor is good.
      Man shit.
      I agree. He’s a very rotten person, and even a terry liberal, like Navalny.
      Well, about the accident. That's what alcoholism leads to, far from an intelligent person. 12 years of course will not, but 5 years may well be. And since the case is resonant, it’s unlikely that Efremov will succeed in putting everything on the brakes and get off with a banal fine. Although with our judicial system, after Serdyukov, and that silver woman who shot down the child and proved that the child was drunk to death, I would not be surprised at anything.
      But for this, in conscience it is necessary to punish the maximum terms, regardless of regalia and merit.
    19. Pravodel
      Pravodel 10 June 2020 06: 51
      0
      And the actor is shit, and the man is shit. Compare to dad. Although he abused alcohol, he was an actor. Any film, performance with his participation is a gift to those who watch it, and a contribution to the development of Russian-Soviet art. To understand the greatness of the father's actor, it is enough to watch the film "The Case of Polynin" - a duet with A. Vertinskaya. The son in talent did not go to his father: in comparison with his father, he is a supernumerary actor who surpassed his father in alcohol. This often happens with the children of great ancestors, whose descendants in no way justify the hopes of their parents; children understand that they do not live up to their parents and, for example, get drunk. It would be better if the son was a woodcutter or a stoker, he would bring less harm with his antics and his acting.
    20. siberalt
      siberalt 10 June 2020 15: 18
      -1
      Oh well. The team is given face! Yes, just something no information who answered how on other cases when children or wives of the "conscience of the nation" crushed children to death. A person can only be judged when he is personally acquainted with him, and not from a wiki or the Internet. The court will judge, and sharpening the fringes on occasion is even dirtier than what Efremov did. Everything should be only according to the law, taking into account all the circumstances. There is no need to turn into an areal crowd gathered on a whistle to the square to decide whether to hang the villain or drown him.
  2. Serg65
    Serg65 9 June 2020 11: 41
    60 th
    Well, a man drank with grief, well, immediately for 12 years then?
    1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
      ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 9 June 2020 11: 44
      37
      And he left two children orphans. He left his father without a father and drank the car and the driver. There is not just one good reason to get drunk at the wheel of a car.
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        1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
          ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 9 June 2020 12: 05
          10
          Honor and conscience are not compatible things for this person.
        2. Altona
          Altona 9 June 2020 12: 10
          -2
          Quote: Serg65
          And here the American idea collapses, Platoshkin was arrested

          -------------------------
          And what does Platoshkin have to do with it? Although the analogy is in place. Nikolai Nikolayevich will receive a sentence for nothing, and Efremov will receive a symbolic sentence for the murder, because he will most likely be neglected.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 17
            +4
            Quote: Altona
            And what does Platoshkin have to do with it?

            Is Efremov not the same "fighter" against the regime as Platoshkin? tribute from one pocket!
            Quote: Altona
            Nikolai Nikolaevich will receive a term for nothing

            Nikolai Nikolaevich, is it a sfig? Just Platoshkin .... be easier! Eugene, do you really think that calls for the overthrow of power, calls for unrest, this is a childish trick and does not even attract a domestic hooligan ???
            Quote: Altona
            he’ll probably be smeared.

            I think that no, I’m tired of everything!
            1. Altona
              Altona 9 June 2020 12: 40
              -1
              Quote: Serg65
              Is Efremov not the same "fighter" against the regime as Platoshkin?

              ---------------------------
              This has nothing to do with it? It's about an accident with consequences. Platoshkin did not call for riots, do not talk nonsense. He called for protests within the legal framework - a dash in the ballot and a single picket. All! The overthrow of the "power", which has long been illegitimate? If a new Constitution is adopted, be so kind as to go to competitive elections, the new Constitution is a new set of powers that are given by the people and have not been issued before. In general, you have a mess in your head about the structure of power.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 52
                -1
                Quote: Altona
                The overthrow of the "power", which has long been illegitimate?

                On the basis of what is illegitimate?
                Quote: Altona
                If you have adopted the new Constitution

                But Russia adopts a new Constitution ??? And I didn’t know ....
                Quote: Altona
                If you have adopted the new Constitution, be kind, go to competitive elections,

                And have the elections been rescheduled? And you still tell me about some kind of porridge !!!!
                1. Altona
                  Altona 9 June 2020 13: 55
                  -4
                  Quote: Serg65
                  But Russia adopts a new Constitution ???

                  --------------------
                  And haven't they declared the new amendments a "new constitution", on the basis of which one can nullify and be re-elected? And you read them by the way? I told you that it contains new powers of the president. And this means that from the moment these "amendments" are adopted, the election of a new president should be announced. However, such things do not reach you if you did not understand the previous post. You will also justify Hitler's power tomorrow. What? There was order, the Reichsmarks were free, goods from the motherland, the commandant's office was working. And then you understand, partisans, calls for resistance.
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 10 June 2020 09: 26
                    +2
                    Quote: Altona
                    Tomorrow you will justify Hitler’s power in the same way.

                    And this tells me a man whose leaders are sucking on thieves, Nazis and homosexuals laughing good
                    Quote: Altona
                    And haven't the new amendments been declared a "new constitution"

                    About the announcement you will not throw a link?
                    Quote: Altona
                    And by the way did you read them?

                    Imagine yes. Out of the 41 amendments, as I understand it, only Article 81, Part 3.1 worries you? laughing And why are you worried, by peaceful means, you still will not push your candidate for the kingdom, and not by peaceful means, so you immediately put the entire constitution under the knife! And is it worth it to spoil your nerves?
                    Although this is what interests me ... in January, Mr. Zyuganov swore by his mother that the Communist Party would accept the amendments, and in June he refused! Did the financial factor prevail?
                    Quote: Altona
                    And this means that from the moment these "amendments" are adopted, the election of a new president should be announced.

                    laughing These are sick fantasies of liberals, communists, nationalists, homosexuals, oligarchs on the run .... and what is the most significant Radio Liberty and the New York Times!
                    Quote: Altona
                    However, such things do not reach you,

                    Yes, so what do we need with our ... face in your ranks crying
            2. Altona
              Altona 9 June 2020 12: 43
              10 th
              Quote: Serg65
              .be easier!

              -------------------
              How much easier? And who will answer for the spill of diesel fuel? Are the "fighters against the regime" to blame again?
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 9 June 2020 13: 10
                -4
                Quote: Altona
                And who will answer for the spill of diesel fuel?

                what Have you forgiven Potanin?
                Quote: Altona
                Are the "fighters against the regime" to blame again?

                laughing Well, you yourself know everything! And then, of course, to blame! Only not small clerks like you, but your financial wallets and ideological inspirers! Won Prokhorov in defense of Potanin pulled himself up, and there Khodorkovsky is on the way!
              2. Paranoid50
                Paranoid50 9 June 2020 13: 22
                0
                Quote: Altona
                And who will answer for the spill of diesel fuel?

                And this is here ... Trouble is trouble ... laughing Well, if so, it’s already in the process, they answer. One uncle in the near future will be relieved by about 10 billion rubles.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 9 June 2020 13: 56
                  0
                  Quote: Paranoid50
                  And this is here ... Trouble is trouble ...

                  ------------------
                  Well, why are they dragging Platoshkin? Spilling fuel in the water is a real crime, as is an accident with a murder. So, trouble is trouble.
            3. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 9 June 2020 12: 49
              +5
              Quote: Serg65
              Eugene, do you really think that calls for the overthrow of power, calls for unrest, this is a childish trick and does not even attract a domestic hooligan ???

              You are a liar! Give a link to at least one video where these calls take place.
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 9 June 2020 14: 37
                0
                Quote: ROSS 42
                Give me a link

                deleted them already .... May videos were
            4. Tank hard
              Tank hard 9 June 2020 16: 06
              -1
              Quote: Serg65
              I think that no, I’m tired of everything!

              Sergey, hello! Your words, yes to God in the ears. Let's see how it comes out. Again, I will repeat that something is happening with the "creative intelligentsia" of Russia. And money is poured to them, and honorary titles, but everything is bad for them, and the power is not the same, and the people are not the same, and this has been going on since Soviet times, and maybe it always was like that ... hi
          2. K-612-O
            K-612-O 9 June 2020 13: 40
            -3
            Kozyrev’s henchman will receive a well-deserved term, they will give even a little, for how they and the boss all surrendered to the last.
            And I hope the 12ka will come to this "talent" of the people.
        3. Albert1988
          Albert1988 9 June 2020 12: 16
          +4
          In some situations, sarcasm is inappropriate ...
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 9 June 2020 12: 57
            +2
            Quote: Albert1988
            In some situations, sarcasm is inappropriate ...

            Well, why !? Nothing new...
            In history, every nation and country has its own Pilate, Christ and crowd winked
            As it is with Afanasevich, our Bulgakov ... Pontius Pilate pleaded not guilty to Christ and brought to trial the crowd, led by priests and Pharisees, who sentenced him to be crucified. Barbara was released thanks to the same crowd ... crying
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 9 June 2020 13: 22
              +2
              An interesting comment ... just yesterday I was in a polemic with a forum member ... the question is how to live according to law or justice? According to the law, Efremov can get away with a short term, according to justice Efremov should be punished to the fullest ... that's the dilemma.
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 9 June 2020 14: 03
                +3
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                An interesting comment ... just yesterday I was in a polemic with a forum member ... the question is how to live according to law or justice? According to the law, Efremov can get away with a short term, according to justice Efremov should be punished to the fullest ... that's the dilemma.

                The fact is that both by law and by justice, Efremov needs to be soldered to the maximum, the only problem is that "the severity of Russian laws is compensated by the non-binding nature of their execution" ... They may try to smear it, but, I hope, public resonance will not allow .. ...
        4. neri73-r
          neri73-r 9 June 2020 12: 20
          +7
          Quote: Serg65
          Quote: ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
          There is no justifiable reason to get drunk behind the wheel of a car.

          It seems so to you! And here the American idea collapses, Platoshkin was arrested, Putin doesn’t leave, the US embassy canceled the reception of citizens, and even this damned coronovirus ... plans were to dump this rash from Nice for at least a couple of months, and this broke off ... here and washed down the honor and conscience of the Russian people! He is suffering for Russia, but he is 12 years old !!!

          So for sure, poor fellow fought with Regim, Putin put him in the throat and put him behind the wheel. Well, the liberals didn’t bleach this, but here is a simple criminal.
          1. snake
            snake 9 June 2020 12: 49
            +4
            Unfortunately, the opposition in Russia, both systemic and “non-systemic,” is so rotten and compromised that even zero opposition somehow looks like it against their background. Apparently that's the reason. That is why these two "oppositions" grew up. The entire choice of the Russian people consists of two evils.
            1. Altona
              Altona 9 June 2020 13: 58
              -1
              Quote: serpent
              that even zero against their background still somehow looks.

              -------------------------
              Well, yes, especially with the famous words "she drowned". Or the daughter of an official who hit two women in a car and escaped punishment. Do you have a memory like a canary?
              1. snake
                snake 9 June 2020 17: 25
                +1
                Quote: Altona
                Do you have a canary memory?

                What does my memory have to do with it? There is no real independent opposition in the country, consisting of decent people. The authorities tried.
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 9 June 2020 14: 40
              0
              Quote: serpent
              Unfortunately, the opposition in Russia, whether it is systemic or "non-systemic", is so rotten and compromised

              The whole problem of the opposition is that there are many Lenins among its ranks, but there are no Stalin and Trotsky!
              1. snake
                snake 9 June 2020 17: 26
                -2
                Quote: Serg65
                There are many Lenins among her ranks.

                Where is there at least one "Lenin"?
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 10 June 2020 07: 44
                  0
                  Quote: serpent
                  Where is there at least one "Lenin"?

                  Yes, take the same Platoshkin, the same balabol as Lenin ... land to the peasants, factory workers, women and men!
                  1. snake
                    snake 10 June 2020 14: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Serg65
                    the same balabol as Lenin

                    Easy cornering, mister! Lenin is anyone, but not balabol. But Platoshkin is not Lenin even once.
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 10 June 2020 15: 01
                      0
                      Quote: serpent
                      Lenin is anyone, but not balabol.

                      Mister, after I read about how the Great Lenin in 1907 surrendered Stalin, Krasin and Bogdanov, but remained clean, I stopped looking at Lenin in pink light! Lenin spoke a lot, but when he came to power, he immediately forgot about his verses! Stalin, by the way, did not forget Lenin’s betrayal; therefore, he put the entire Leninist guard under the knife and launched the construction of the USSR in no way along the Leninist path!
                      Quote: serpent
                      But Platoshkin is not Lenin even once.

                      Come on! Meli Emelya, your week!
                      1. snake
                        snake 10 June 2020 15: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Serg65
                        I stopped looking at Lenin in pink!

                        Pink light is out of the question. But "Lenin - balabol" is too much.
                      2. Serg65
                        Serg65 11 June 2020 10: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: serpent
                        "Lenin is balabol" is too much.

                        Sergei, and you take off your rose-colored glasses and at least read the Stalinist history of the CPSU (b) thoughtfully, analyze, compare the facts, count how many of Lenin's associates are absent from this story! Read about the Bolshevik center and what happened in it in 1907 after the Tiflis expropriation! Remember how Lenin watered Trotsky with the last words before the revolution and how he treated "so tenderly, so tenderly" to the same Trotsky after the revolution. Think why Lenin loved Trotsky so much from 17 until his death ... what is the reason? Try to answer the question of what Lenin accomplished from what he promised the people.
                      3. snake
                        snake 11 June 2020 11: 49
                        -1
                        Quote: Serg65
                        what Lenin did from what he promised the people.

                        Did something; did not fulfill something. He influenced the history of Russia and the world significantly. Here is Zhirinovsky, for example, who thrashes exclusively with his tongue, here he is really what you called Lenin. Therefore, it is inappropriate to characterize Lenin as a "balabol". No matter how you feel about him.
                      4. Serg65
                        Serg65 11 June 2020 12: 38
                        +2
                        Quote: serpent
                        Here Zhirinovsky, for example,

                        laughing Sergey, Zhirinovsky is generally no one and there is no way to call him!
  3. savage1976
    savage1976 9 June 2020 12: 36
    +3
    The comrades of your sarcasm did not understand.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 9 June 2020 13: 16
      +4
      Well, emoticons must be set. But what sarcasm can be upon the murder of a cattle drunkard?
  4. 210ox
    210ox 9 June 2020 13: 14
    +3
    What is this "honor and conscience" !? He killed a man ..
  • 210ox
    210ox 9 June 2020 18: 48
    0
    I myself rarely, but I can drink. And tightly. But then for three or four days I don’t approach the car at all. Even if there is no such movement in our village. Dismiss, I drank, not a step to the car.
  • Ravik
    Ravik 9 June 2020 11: 45
    +3
    Now, if they give 12 years, then it will be "out of grief"
  • tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 9 June 2020 11: 45
    17
    This Makar can justify everything, but in fact a man died.
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 June 2020 12: 08
    +7
    Quote: Serg65
    Well, a man drank with grief, well, immediately for 12 years then?

    You had to stick a die at the end (srkzm).
    And not everyone will understand that you voiced liberal-bohemian moans in this way.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 19
      -2
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      You had to stick a die at the end

      I will consider for the future.
  • credo
    credo 9 June 2020 12: 09
    +3
    Quote: Serg65
    Well, a man drank with grief, well, immediately for 12 years then?

    It seems you, too, have just woken up from a hangover, if you didn’t understand that for 12 years it’s been shining not for drinking, but for drunk driving, which led to an accident and the death of the victim.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 20
      -3
      Quote: credo
      Looks like you also just woke up from a hangover

      belay Are you a teetotaler, a member of the cockroach committee?
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 9 June 2020 16: 13
      0
      Quote: credo
      Looks like you also just woke up from a hangover

      It seems that not everyone understands the irony ... Well, not everyone is given. request
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 10 June 2020 09: 37
        +3
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Well, not everyone is given.

        laughing Quenching is not the same! At the Moscow Council, such an irony was quickly taught!
        Hello my friend!!! hi
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 10 June 2020 09: 39
          0
          Quote: Serg65
          At the Moscow Council, such an irony was quickly taught!

          Ahhhh! Yelling into the voice! laughing Hi! hi
      2. region58
        region58 10 June 2020 12: 22
        +1
        Quote: Tank Hard
        not everyone understands the irony ...

        Quote: Serg65
        Quenching is not the same!

        More likely in a hurry to press a button ... without delving into the meaning of what was written.
        "Rough age! Rough morals! No romanticism!" (C).
  • iouris
    iouris 9 June 2020 13: 44
    +4
    Quote: Serg65
    Well, a man drank with grief, well, immediately for 12 years then?

    1) According to my observations, he has been drinking for the past twenty years and all the time behind the wheel, and drives exclusively on cars that kill others, but not them. 2) The punishment has not yet been assigned and, according to my observations, punishment can be avoided.
  • ANB
    ANB 9 June 2020 17: 19
    +2
    . Well, a man drank with grief, well, immediately for 12 years then?

    Of course, well then 12 then.
    Actually, you need 20 and confiscation of property in favor of the victims.
    Interestingly, what does he do on a subscription with accusations of a particularly grave nature?
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 9 June 2020 11: 42
    14
    with his lifestyle, this once had to happen ...
    Now this topic will be daily presented in the media before and the sentencing field ...
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 9 June 2020 11: 43
    +3
    Fir-trees - bottles ... he himself went to this, alcohol - he did not even deny that he was always under a fly. The person is very sorry, how will he live with this?
    1. Sobol
      Sobol 9 June 2020 11: 52
      12
      Quote: Hunter 2
      how will it live?

      Yes, he does not care about Man.
  • Russian Moldavian
    Russian Moldavian 9 June 2020 11: 45
    20
    God does not hit with a stick, drunk Russophobe waited for karma
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 11: 51
      +6
      where does he have Russophobia or not? what difference does he have political views? everyone is equal behind a glass and a glass .. and the fact that he is a chronic alcoholic has long been known to everyone and sooner or later something like this should happen, it’s only his fault and no one else but the family of the deceased is condolences
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 9 June 2020 13: 03
      +6
      Quote: Russian Moldovans
      God does not hit with a stick, drunk Russophobe waited for karma

      A Russian man, because of what kind of character ... you think - he would have killed a reptile, but how would he get into trouble, like, like, a pity for a shit ... request
  • Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 9 June 2020 11: 46
    11
    What kind of cinema - such and artists.
  • avia12005
    avia12005 9 June 2020 11: 47
    14
    Only at the maximum - 12 years.
    1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 9 June 2020 12: 20
      +6
      Quote: avia12005
      Only at the maximum - 12 years.


      Your words and the judge’s ears. I doubt that this stub is soldered to its fullest.
      1. avia12005
        avia12005 9 June 2020 18: 36
        +1
        This so-called "creative elite" has finally become sanctified.
  • stalki
    stalki 9 June 2020 11: 48
    19
    Sorry for the guy and his family, there is no actor. For such a life must be given. And then such people take their life, they will serve it and continue to live. Where is justice here?
  • Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 9 June 2020 11: 49
    15
    It would be significant to plant, but the "exceptional" will not surrender their ...
    And a man died, a father of a family, a son. I was driving on business, making plans for the future, but the drunk who left on the road crossed out everything. And, it may well soon turn out that, of course, "in the jungle, all animals are equal, but there are ones that are smoother ..." (c)
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 12: 28
      +2
      Quote: Rusfaner
      yes, the "exceptional" will not surrender their ...

      I think they will surrender, he already got everyone, and he played drunks, or rather he did not need to play them.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 11: 49
    +9
    Quote: Serg65
    Well, a man drank with grief, well, immediately for 12 years then?

    Why such grief? Just think a little what you write ...
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 9 June 2020 11: 57
      -8
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Just think a little what you write ...

      Read my post above!
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 01
        +7
        There was a tragedy. A man was killed, and this is not the best reason for jokes or any sarcasm.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 11
          12
          What kind of jokes ??? Efremov rang out, decided that he had grabbed the Almighty by the bells! Is he the first time he's driving drunk? No, not the first! It was only thanks to his father that all his tricks were forgiven, and what was the result? This tolerance is already across the throat !!!
          Efremov, feeling his impunity, simply began to greyhound and lost the coast, now let him write letters to the Gaavg court on Putin’s tyranny in Mordovia !!
          And he maintains at his own expense the family of Sergei Zakharov for life !!!!
          And you say jokes!
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 13
            +4
            He beguiled the shores for a long time ... and there are so many people like him who are chronically ill with alcoholism on the roads and villages of our country ...
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 32
              10
              Quote: Andrey VOV
              .and here are how many people like him who are chronically ill with alcoholism on the roads and villages of our country ...

              Andrei, he has already been caught in a drunken state 10 times and still continued ... why? Because he knows that if he is arrested, his liberal friends will raise such a howl about "Putin's lawlessness"! And instead of the "Magnitsky case" there will be "Efremov's case" about the mockery of Putin's bloody gebni! How nice to fight the regime and do what you want !!!!!
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 37
                +2
                10 traffic violations lately, I haven’t found anywhere that all 10 times for driving while drunk, and again ... he goes drunk, stops him sergeant or lieutenant, oh, Efremov ... I'm your fan, let's take a picture and go .. and then what will spit ...
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 9 June 2020 12: 45
                  +4
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  he goes drunk, stops him sergeant or lieutenant,

                  So raise all the old things and all the sergeants and lieutenants a couple of years old for abuse of authority ....
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 9 June 2020 13: 07
        +7
        Quote: Serg65
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Just think a little what you write ...

        Read my post above!

        All are inflated. Tragedy. Not immediately understood sarcasm.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 9 June 2020 13: 25
          +2
          Quote: Terenin
          All are inflated. Tragedy

          Yes, a tragedy, but it did not happen from scratch !!!!
          Quote: Terenin
          Not immediately understood sarcasm.

          what To be honest, he froze ... I can't stand Efremov!
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 9 June 2020 16: 16
          +3
          Quote: Terenin
          Not immediately understood sarcasm

          Well sometimes you can! wink
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 9 June 2020 19: 06
            +5
            Quote: Tank Hard
            Quote: Terenin
            Not immediately understood sarcasm

            Well sometimes you can! wink

            We can’t, but we can! (with) wink
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard 9 June 2020 16: 15
        +3
        Quote: Serg65
        Read my post above!

        Land, here a significant part is not able to understand irony, sarcasm, just humor. Humble yourself. wink
    2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 9 June 2020 12: 24
      +5
      [/ Quote]
      Why such grief? [/ Quote]

      Efremov and the like now have one grief - a referendum on the Constitution. They are unable to influence him, and they are eating blue with buckets until they lose their pulse.
      It would be better if this bastard himself was killed. So there’s no damn it, the tselekhonek didn’t even get scratched. But the guy is not alive.
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 28
        +1
        Yes, he does not care about referenda and stuff, he is a chronic alcoholic in the stage when vodka is his everything ...
        1. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
          Aleksey Aleksandrovich 9 June 2020 12: 37
          +2
          He is not just a chronic drunk, he is also a chronic fighter with a bloody regime. Drunk with a keen sense of social responsibility.
          1. tatarin1972
            tatarin1972 9 June 2020 15: 11
            0
            Well, yes, with a sense of social responsibility, did you understand what you wrote? A fighter against a bloody regime, what are the words ?! In childhood, he played a boy who loved Kharms, in the current years he reads Orlusha. Don't you find that these two poets are somewhat similar? Kharms's words: "If they give me a mobilization leaflet, I will hit the commander in the face, let them shoot me; but I will not wear a uniform and I will not serve in the Soviet troops, I do not want to be such shit. If I am forced to shoot a machine gun from attics during street battles with the Germans, then I will not shoot at the Germans, but at them from the same machine gun. " Orlusha said that he would guide NATO tanks on their way to Moscow, and without any sarcasm.
  • eleronn
    eleronn 9 June 2020 11: 49
    +9
    And for me, so let him sit. It will be useful for a star-laden celestial to lie on a bunk.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 9 June 2020 11: 50
    +5
    I respect him as an actor, but the way he behaves like a man causes me disgust. Let him answer in all severity of the law.
  • Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 9 June 2020 11: 52
    10
    wangyu. They will mow and will not be deprived of freedom. Now the best lawyers will defend the "best" actor.
    1. Kart
      Kart 9 June 2020 13: 01
      +3
      He has money up to ... according to him.
      Stop going to the lawyers.
  • Galleon
    Galleon 9 June 2020 11: 53
    11
    Efremov also had 2 passengers - an actor with his wife. How could they get into a car with a driver "in the wood" ?? How could they let him get behind the wheel ??
    It’s a pity for the hard worker, as it was a pity for actor Viktor Stepanov - and here and there the death from what appeared on the road next to a crappy person.
    I hope that the forced abstinence in the "closed LTP", at least for a while, will save this khanurik from the opportunity to drink.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 02
      +4
      He was the only one, the information that someone was with him, in this case it was about actor Stibunov, was refuted, as eyewitnesses. So the traffic police
    2. Boratsagdiev
      Boratsagdiev 9 June 2020 12: 08
      +1
      Such passengers need to be involved as accomplices.
      Indulge in crime, instead of stopping it.
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 9 June 2020 16: 19
      +1
      Quote: Galleon
      Efremov also had 2 passengers - an actor with his wife. How could they get into a car with a driver "in the wood" ?? How could they let him get behind the wheel ??

      Weird question... repeat But what about such "flowers of the nation" as Mara Baghdasaryan? They are all one.
    4. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 9 June 2020 17: 07
      0
      Quote: Galleon
      what a pity actor Victor Stepanov was - and here and there is death from what appeared on the road next to a crappy person.

      Yuri Stepanova request Victor Stepanov died his death, but also early 59 in total
  • PValery53
    PValery53 9 June 2020 11: 53
    +4
    For premeditated murder of a person - what will the "fate solvers" "come up with"?
    1. Andrey Shch
      Andrey Shch 9 June 2020 11: 56
      +4
      According to the prevailing judicial practice, with one person killed in an accident, usually 2-3 years in a colony settlement.
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 02
        +5
        CC tightened in this case
  • lubesky
    lubesky 9 June 2020 11: 55
    +4
    He went for a long time to this, it is strange in general, that his path to the problem took such a long time ....
  • fn34440
    fn34440 9 June 2020 11: 55
    +3
    In the heat, eating vodaru is not very smart. Moreover, sho neurons in the brain decrease with each glass of C2H5OH and the innate self-preservation instinct is destroyed. Not a kid. It's time to think.
    And what his drinking companions thought about, and they are constant with him, seating the dodka behind the wheel. Everyone knows their surnames.
    1. alien
      alien 9 June 2020 13: 25
      +1
      Quote: fn34440
      And what his drinking companions thought about, and they are constant with him, seating the dodka behind the wheel. Everyone knows their surnames.

      All his drinking companions are the same - potential criminals and accomplices like Efremov, who have become normal - drunk driving.

      Efremov, humanly, is advised: to pay all material and moral damage to the victims, if there are young children, to take up to maintenance until adulthood. The only way.
  • Vita vko
    Vita vko 9 June 2020 11: 55
    +4
    In his car there were 2 more people who could not help but see what condition Efremov was in, which definitely makes them accomplices. But unfortunately, the imperfection of the Law, which provides such loopholes for the excuse of the stoned children of oligarchs, allows criminals to evade responsibility. Then these accomplices will still collect signatures on mitigation and petitions to court.
    1. fn34440
      fn34440 9 June 2020 11: 59
      +4
      Stebunov and his wife were NOT in the car of Efremov. Do not read the yellow press.
      1. Kart
        Kart 9 June 2020 13: 03
        +2
        What's the difference?
        The main thing is to shout a chant about the "stoned children of oligarchs" (quote), and of course about bad government.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 9 June 2020 11: 59
    +3
    It's time to do something with repeated repeated traffic violations ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 9 June 2020 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      It's time to do something with repeated repeated traffic violations ...

      Since the beginning of this year, Mikhail Efremov has been prosecuted 10 times for violation of traffic rules.
      Sometimes the traffic police show simply miracles of "humanism".
      1. Van 16
        Van 16 9 June 2020 12: 48
        +1
        Now, if he had not received fines for previous violations, but had been closed for a couple of times for fifteen days, who knows, maybe this tragedy would not have happened. Impunity corrupts.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 June 2020 12: 54
      +4
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      It's time to do something with repeated repeated traffic violations ...

      A wonderful practice is the deprivation of rights for a period of 3 months to life and harsh punishment for driving without a license (without aggravating - 1 year of corrective work at the location of the MSW processing plants) ... I see all these baghdasaryans together with Efrem and other "elite"
      good
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 9 June 2020 13: 19
        +1
        Unfortunately, our system has too many "exceptions" for it to work efficiently, even when good rules are written. We are overwhelmed with "untouchables" and there is no rigid and independent system of professional protection for an ordinary employee involved in issuing fines. This is a hole that will endlessly generate such situations, sucking in the corruption component and spitting out corpses and scandals.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 June 2020 11: 59
    +7
    Ravik (Sergey)
    The actor is good. Man shit.
    There was a good actor, but all came out a long time ago (drunk on the stage, the movie is no longer so hot). And I completely agree with the second. In the morning I read my daughter’s answer to the question of why she didn’t go to the scene of the incident, so almost literally - it’s not (obscene) to go drunk. He is already an adult, I’ll put the gears on him ... This is also a confirmation of what kind of person he is.
    1. Kart
      Kart 9 June 2020 13: 04
      0
      No, this is a confirmation of what kind of people we are.
      He was not the first day to drink too much. And all do not care, even relatives.
      And the rest then and in general for the joy on the bones to jump, but to tell what they are right and good.
  • HAM
    HAM 9 June 2020 12: 00
    +3
    Our "stars" very many have become obnoxious from impunity: some are "starving", others have de ... mo ... ". Talented and vulnerable" .. mln ... allow themselves boorish words and deeds .. but this is already too much , only to judge, in spite of the merits. Words that money before ... explain everything ..
    1. igor67
      igor67 9 June 2020 12: 15
      +6
      for discount Konstantin Miladze, Dyuzhev, Yakubovich. Radzinsky was shot down to death and no one sat down,
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 31
        +1
        Now he will sit down .... of course there will be no exemplary process, but they will not let go of the brakes
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 9 June 2020 13: 00
        +1
        Quote: igor67
        for discount Konstantin Miladze, Dyuzhev, Yakubovich. Radzinsky shot down to death and no one sat down

        For a start:
        As the investigation established, the victim of Yakubovich, a 30-year-old merchant from Kyrgyzstan, was drunk and ran across the road under the very nose of an approaching car. Although Hyundai Accent TV presenter was moving at a slow speed, and Yakubovich hit the brakes, a collision was inevitable.

        And here is another option:
  • DominickS
    DominickS 9 June 2020 12: 00
    +3
    It turns out that he is not only a drunk in our nedokino.
    1. Kart
      Kart 9 June 2020 13: 07
      +1
      Just an alcoholic.
      This disease is such.
      It was just necessary to pay attention to it on time, on this problem, but this does not always help.
      As a rule, a person dies gradually in front of indifferent people, and then, after the abyss, he receives only angry cries and ridicule.
      People...
  • lubesky
    lubesky 9 June 2020 12: 02
    +3
    And as for the fact that he will escape punishment, he will NOT escape. He can overwhelm the relatives of the deceased with money - and in this case with capitalism I don’t see anything illegal, hiring the best lawyers is also legal, the acting environment will start writing letters - this is also the norm - everyone always tries to help a colleague or a person from his circle of society, even if his guilt is obvious. The ability of the rich to mitigate responsibility under capitalism is the norm. So on his conscience will remain the death of a man because of his bestial behavior, but I do not see anything reprehensible in legal movements of mitigation of responsibility. In general, it is necessary to move towards huge fines for NOT severe articles in favor of replenishing the budget with a target expense item - for social programs, for example, medicine. And all these statements - even if in any case the maximum term, execution, and so on - these are all requests of society for social justice, which unfortunately have nothing to do with the reality of the state structure ...
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 9 June 2020 12: 06
    +6
    To thump or not is your own business, but when it comes to those around you ...
    Need to tighten fines and deadlines. They themselves are broken - to hell with them, more often the innocent suffer.
    "... in the form of imprisonment for up to 12 years." - 3-4 years will give a maximum, and maybe even conditional to get off.
    Unfortunately, in Russia, real terms are rarely given for "murder with the use of a vehicle".
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 17
      +3
      the terms are just what they give, it's just that we have all our life, starting from the king of peas, there are equal, but there are who are more equal before the law and the judicial system is such that a judge can calmly give below the lower limit ... it is necessary to cancel these reservations in the Criminal Code " before "and so on, but clearly without any 10, then a dozen and no conditional
      1. Boratsagdiev
        Boratsagdiev 9 June 2020 12: 20
        +1
        3-4 years, and often conditionally, do you consider real?
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 25
          +4
          From my personal practice, in 1999 a man, the chief engineer of a poultry farm, drunk, knocked three boys to death, they barely saved him from lynching, so he was 8 years old then a real term ... but he couldn't bear it, he hanged himself, his conscience gnawed, and the major player literally two weeks, son of one of ours there, also an accident, drunk, two to death .... 4 years .... settlement .... that's more equal, that's the prefix "before /" ....
          1. Boratsagdiev
            Boratsagdiev 9 June 2020 12: 28
            0
            this is an exception to the rule and it’s only 8 years ...
            and could still go out on parole.
            1. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 33
              +1
              in the old uk it was a ceiling. by chance, he could ... or transferred to a settlement, but from practice, as always, a simple hard worker for a bag of potatoes in a detention center and in a zone and for one corpse. and "difficult" water off a duck's back. . unfortunately it was, is and will be, unfortunately
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 9 June 2020 13: 04
        +2
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        it is necessary in the Criminal Code to cancel these clauses "before" and so on, but clearly without any 10, then a dozen and no conditional

        Tell you who came up with the decision at the discretion of the judge and why this is not a corruption component?
        So also "Antibiotic" said:

        yes
  • kitpit
    kitpit 9 June 2020 12: 06
    +3
    I'm afraid this freak will get off conditional
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 9 June 2020 12: 07
    +1
    Alcohol in any form is evil. But the state is interested in taxes on alcohol sales) And until the state itself changes, there will be drunken jesters, majors, and so on. Half of the country thinks that a glass or a bottle of beer is okay, but no more. It's funny that doctors claiming the benefits of alcohol in small doses themselves drink and I don't know what a doctor who does not use it speaks about the benefits of alcohol) ...... and our showbiz and bohemia, consisting of pea jesters who consider themselves special, are known before the moment they talk and look about them, respectively, the conclusion, do not look, do not post, do not quote. But it is necessary to return people to their origins, and who will give them back, then) Who will live on credit, work in order to live in an anthill, buy something that is "outdated, bespontovo,
    not fashionable, and so on ", no state will allow it. IGNORING A TV CHANNEL, BANKING SYSTEM, GREAT SPORT AND OTHER ATTRIBUTES OF A COLONY ARE LETHAL FOR THIS SYSTEM, THEREFORE YOU WILL NOT GIVE IT TO YOU, YOU WILL GIVE IT!) ETC.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 15
      +4
      What sources do you urge to return people to? To plow and torch? And what, is alcohol money to the treasury an invention of today? And not show business and other majors that you don’t drink?
  • Well done
    Well done 9 June 2020 12: 11
    +3
    Assassin. I have no words.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 June 2020 12: 13
    +5
    12 years, of course, will not give him. 2-3 years of "settlements" and a fine of 3 million. That's all. He is not the first of the "elite" people to be so kurales at the wheel. And the result is the same, if there is a financial instrument, then the punishment is always very mild, even if there are victims.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 9 June 2020 12: 14
    +1
    5-6 years to give and deprive for life rights.
  • kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 9 June 2020 12: 16
    0
    Everything is clear, it’s all the bloody GEBNY rigged up, instead of MAKLAN added ositinol, turned off the brakes, finished off the man in the hospital, DESPOTION COMES !!!!!!!!
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 9 June 2020 12: 16
    +3
    He has money before the buoy, which means that he will have enough for a batch of petroleum jelly for 12 years.
    Such things should intersect strictly and at times, like intentional murder. Others should not be habituated.
    1. Kart
      Kart 9 June 2020 13: 09
      +1
      Others do not care deeply with the device.
      Absolutely.
  • askort154
    askort154 9 June 2020 12: 24
    +4
    Meanwhile, it became known that only from the beginning of this year, Mikhail Efremov was brought to administrative responsibility 10 times for violation of traffic rules.

    Here it is our jurisprudence in full color. With one "skinning" for the wrong parking, or arrival at the stop line. Those returning from fishing or hunting in the morning with a "smell" will not be released without 30 thousand. And clearly drunk "stars" and "majors" kill innocent people, while not only do not bear the punishment provided for by law, but often make the victim out of the culprit. The old saying - "the law is like a drawbar", becomes more relevant with every century. In Soviet times, political officials were not subject to jurisdiction, now they are joined by millionaires and their offspring.
    A good actor, long ago turned into a natural drunk, everyone sees this, but they issue a permit for the operation of a "unit" of increased danger.
    Doctors give the necessary information, the Department of Internal Affairs - a certificate of management. So they should sit next to him in the dock. But alas! Even in the new constitution this will not be prescribed. They crushed, and they will crush.
  • musorg
    musorg 9 June 2020 12: 31
    +1
    It will pay off and receive conditionally. And the main culprit of the traffic police! Violations 10, and continued to ride. Is it only him?
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 12: 34
      -1
      the number of violations can be many, and the ulcer and teetotaler, it is necessary to look at what these violations are, have they really never received a fine?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 June 2020 12: 32
    0
    Any court decision will be dissatisfied.
  • Dr. Frankenstucker
    Dr. Frankenstucker 9 June 2020 12: 32
    +2
    I think there will be resonance. Now, of course, there are "medical contraindications", certificates of infirmity, collective letters in defense, about condescension to the "popularly beloved artist" and so on ...
    I wish him to sit down.
  • north 2
    north 2 9 June 2020 12: 36
    +4
    my personal opinion .
    Mikhail in the roles of theater and cinema gradually slides into the likeness of his father Oleg. Uniformity in
    the embodiment of all the heroes. Only heroes for Oleg Efremov were selected through censorship of thin. Soviets, and
    The role of Mikhail is selected by the Bykovsky party of liberals-Russophobes. But the reader Mikhail Efremov is magnificent. As he reads Bykov’s poems, this talent is to convey so clearly and Russophobically as Russia and Russians portrayed the talent, Bykov also sings.
    The genes of drunkenness probably crawled to Mikhail, too, from his father, who drank very hard. I can’t understand how Dostoevsky’s Russian rock Sukachev found a friend in primitive Mikhail Efremov.
    And to be honest, it’s a pity that alcohol killed another person, through my work, biography and actions of which I try to refute for myself Tyutchev’s axiom that Russia cannot be understood by the mind.
    And the more I don’t understand her, the more I believe in her and love her more ..
    1. Dr. Frankenstucker
      Dr. Frankenstucker 9 June 2020 13: 06
      +1
      Quote: north 2
      how in primitive Mikhail Efremov a friend found Dostoevsky of Russian rock Sukachev ..


      converged on the field of alcoholism. Or they have one narcologist.

      and why Garik suddenly "Dostoevsky"? Some kind of strange metaphor, to put it mildly.
      1. north 2
        north 2 9 June 2020 14: 33
        0
        because such songs as Olga, I Know I Have Edges, Give Me Water, Zero Kilometer, Autumn performed by Sukachev is highly philosophical content of the work, because of the deep meaning in the words, with a non-aggressive melody. In these songs, Sukachev poking around in the Russian soul in the same way as Dostoevsky poking around in the Russian soul in his novels.
        1. Dr. Frankenstucker
          Dr. Frankenstucker 9 June 2020 15: 03
          -1
          Quote: north 2
          there is a highly philosophical content of the work


          even so?
  • pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 9 June 2020 12: 39
    +1
    Quote: akarfoxhound
    Compared, squinting, opu with a finger ?! You also tell that from political repression "talent" will go down

    When the revolution of the world circus wins, and the clowns come to power, then Efremov will be rehabilitated ...
  • iouris
    iouris 9 June 2020 12: 39
    +1
    The alcoholic's father starred in the movie Beware of the Car! I warned you. Did not help. How did it happen that he was not deprived of his rights ???? Why then is there traffic police?
    1. edmed
      edmed 9 June 2020 14: 58
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      Why then is there a traffic police?

      And the traffic police are angels in shining armor striking the wicked with a punishing sword? Or ordinary people walking on a sinful land who are driven into the framework of "plans, sticks, who to take and who not to touch, and at the same time salute from a drunken judge. Prosecutor, authority, bureaucrats, major, with .. change ", knowing that they stopped the wrong one and attracted the" untouchable "they stuff a full cap and I can force and" sit down "
  • 1536
    1536 9 June 2020 12: 42
    +3
    How much rope does not curl, and the end will always be. And what did someone want to get from this spireman and the stupid man wearing pink or green glasses (who likes it)? It’s time to already take off these glasses. Naturally, all this is regrettable.
    Most of all sorry for Comrade. Zakharov, a simple Russian peasant from Ryazan, who died untimely at the hands of this alcoholic. We must shed tears about Zakharov, we must condole with his family! His death should serve as the beginning of putting things in order among these "elites" of all stripes from all volosts, ready to sell their homeland, and now, as we see, also kill.
  • Old26
    Old26 9 June 2020 12: 47
    +4
    Quote: Zaurbek
    5-6 years to give and deprive for life.

    Will life-long deprivation of rights change anything? How many such "Famous" Mara have already had, who with fifty fines and EMNIP deprivation of rights. And the other who killed someone drunk in a car. He also had no rights, he was deprived. What stopped him?

    Quote: lopuhan2006
    Alcohol in any form is evil.

    "Alcohol is our enemy and we destroy it." It's not about whether it is evil or not. And in specific behavior. One will drink and call a taxi for himself, leaving the car in the parking lot, the other will get drunk and get behind the wheel.
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 9 June 2020 12: 51
    +1
    I beg your pardon, but what does this tragedy have to do with the military theme? The site, as far as I know, is thematic and is called "Military Review" ... Or have I missed something?
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 9 June 2020 13: 08
      +3
      I agree with you.
      Under the tsar, they were called scornfully - "actor" or "actor". No one could have thought that they and others like them would become something like the elite, they would always be heard, and their statements on topics in which they didn’t know a damn thing, would shave off the kind of ultimate truth.
      An alcoholic who portrayed himself on stage, what are we discussing about him?
      The fact that our law enforcement and judicial systems are ill, we already know that.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 9 June 2020 17: 23
        0
        Quote: glory1974
        Under the tsar, they were called scornfully - "actor" or "actor". No one could have thought that they and others like them would become something of an elite

        The fact that the title-People’s Artist introduced Nikolai 2 doesn’t bother you?
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 10 June 2020 08: 36
          0
          oh, that the title-People’s Artist introduced Nikolai 2 doesn’t bother you?

          very symbolic. And Nicholas II himself and his close associates made their mistresses from artists, brought them closer to power, and spent state money on them. What ended everyone knows.
        2. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
          Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 10 June 2020 09: 42
          -1
          We will destroy the whole world of violence to the ground, and then we will build ours, we will build a new world. WHO WAS NOTHING, THAT WILL BECOME ALL "
          So a good wish has come true: these very "WHO WAS NOTHING" BECAME EVERYTHING and are crawling out of all the cracks! So we are reaping the results of our own labors !!! And this is just one of the most numerous examples from our everyday life !!! ALAS...
    2. iouris
      iouris 9 June 2020 17: 14
      0
      Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
      What does this tragedy have to do with military issues?

      This topic is directly related. This actor brings up (future) defenders of the homeland all the way.
      1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
        Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 10 June 2020 09: 33
        0
        "Brings up (future) defenders of the Motherland" ???? belay How??? Is he a full-time tutor in a military school or cadet corps? Does it have anything to do with the educational work of the Ministry of Education?
        This actor is only engaged in political satire. No more. In this part, he is the first, not the last ...
        Do not get me wrong: I do not in any way justify or defend him. Moreover, I believe that he should be punished. Severe, if not cruel. HE KILLED A MAN !!!
        However, I am convinced that this topic is not related to the subject of the site either directly or indirectly hi
  • artifact
    artifact 9 June 2020 12: 52
    +1
    They are discussing this topic on TV, Sheinin says that the police came to him, and he closed in his apartment and did not let them in because of his unwell condition. if so, a logical question arises - shouldn't they have been detained on the spot !?
  • Mitya2424
    Mitya2424 9 June 2020 12: 55
    +2
    Appoint the head of the club in the general regime IR for 10-11 years, let the culture be in the criminal masses, the opposition is x ...... renov.
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 9 June 2020 12: 56
    +1
    Quote: Ravik
    The actor is good.
    Man shit.

    Amateur prison will now go uphill. Now at least put Hamlet. But they won’t put him in prison. And where are the gayts looking? Such rights must be deprived forever.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 June 2020 12: 57
    +3
    Meanwhile, it became known that only from the beginning of this year, Mikhail Efremov was brought to administrative responsibility 10 times for violation of traffic rules.
    I tried if he would collect such a collection in the USSR angry
    Accident involving drunk Efremov:
    Can not be. A member of the "Congress of Russian intellectuals", no, he is not like that. repeat Drunk mug and killer angry . Nature rests on children. request
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 9 June 2020 12: 59
    0
    Quote: Andrey VOV
    What sources do you urge to return people to? To plow and torch? And what, is alcohol money to the treasury an invention of today? And not show business and other majors that you don’t drink?

    How primitive) Poking criticizing) This does not concern you, do not worry)
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 13: 38
      +1
      It seems that you are used to picking and calling it incomprehensibly to what, without proposing anything concrete, but this applies to all, because we are all either pedestrians, passengers or drivers, and we are not so in us ..
  • faterdom
    faterdom 9 June 2020 13: 02
    +4
    He went to this, persistently and for a long time. He, of course, was not the first, and during the Soviet era the "stars" were starring ...
    So, for example, Maksakova Sr. brought down a man (not drunk, she just couldn’t drive well), M. Tariverdiev took the blame on her and became convicted. And she considered it normal for herself ...
    And, since the apple is not far from the apple tree rolling away, this is how it came true: the composer Tariverdiev’s son Karen became a spetsnaz hero, Maksakov’s daughter Masha, a high-society and near-bandit party girl, at the same time a deputy of the State Duma from EP, the wife of a fraud deputy who was shot dead in Kiev, and now shares some banduigans some apartments in Moscow.
    And Efremov apparently all his friends and relatives forgave and allowed everything - the result is obvious! So he didn’t have good friends, some non-affiliates.
    1. DeKo
      DeKo 9 June 2020 13: 14
      0
      Maksakova Sr. knocked down people twice
  • prior
    prior 9 June 2020 13: 03
    12
    Efremov is a typical wretched face of modern Russian bohemia.
    Scrape any of this class - dirt, vulgarity, debauchery will come out ... and this is in the best case.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 9 June 2020 13: 08
    +3
    I always said, I say and I will say: "Drunk driving = killer"!
    And further - all accordingly!
  • DeKo
    DeKo 9 June 2020 13: 13
    0
    Plant immediately. After all, Efremov, he himself boasted of the citizenship of Ukraine and Albania. Dump there and that's it