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The expert named the reason for the rapid retreat of the Haftar army in Libya

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The expert named the reason for the rapid retreat of the Haftar army in Libya

In Libya, fighting continues in the area of ​​the city of Sirte. A few weeks ago, the city was under the complete control of the Libyan National Army, but now the forces of Marshal Haftar are faced with the advance of the enemy and barely contain the onslaught.


It can be noted that, by and large, the PNS forces and pro-Turkish militants do not have a united front in the region of Sirte. The offensive is carried out according to the scheme worked out under Tarhuna: the use of Turkish attack drones and ground attacks by relatively small groups from several directions at once. Often, at key road sections, road junctions, and entrances to settlements, single military equipment is used that fires under “control” from UAVs, which also act as aircraft guides for ground targets.

It should be noted the ease with which the PNS forces, supported by Turkey, are moving both south and east of Tripoli. This suggests that the forces of Marshal Haftar for all the months of "operations to capture the capital of the country" have not created any effective lines of defense.

LNA troops advanced to Tripoli, leaving no reinforced rear. That is why the system works like a chain of dominoes - as soon as its first element fell over, the fall covered the subsequent ones. One gets the impression that the marshal is ruined by excessive self-confidence and confidence in the forces that he commands.



Middle Eastern expert Alayedin Mahmari names a specific reason:

Haftar forces acted without actually creating a rear military infrastructure. They drove all the equipment to Al-Vatiyah, and the blow that was received there became too painful for Haftar and his troops to recover. Now they are forced to retreat, but without the defense lines created earlier, this retreat can go all the way to Benghazi.


Meanwhile, reports came from Egypt that Cairo had invited the Tripoli (PNS) authorities to stop the offensive and remain in their positions, moving on to negotiations on a comprehensive peace. But in the command of the PNS troops, the decisions on whose behalf are made, apparently, not in Tripoli, but in Ankara, the Egyptian proposal was rejected and the attack on Sirte continued.

Recall that earlier Egyptian troops were deployed to the Libyan border. Apparently, Cairo understands that pro-Turkish militants can quickly reach the east of Libya and enter Egyptian borders. And if they are not met there in a timely manner, then they may well leak into the territory of Egypt, which already has enough problems with terrorists - in the Sinai.

PNS forces lose their "mobile firing point":

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  1. Grits
    Grits 9 June 2020 07: 05 New
    +3
    It would be interesting to look at the fight between Egypt and Turkey in a foreign country. But, most likely, there will be no fight. I think that the Egyptians will collapse and all these statements and the pulling together of troops are an attempt to save face before defeat.
    1. Russobel
      Russobel 9 June 2020 07: 34 New
      -15
      "It would be interesting to look at the fight between Egypt and Turkey in a foreign country."
      Do you want to watch Vasya and Kolya in your apartment ?!
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 9 June 2020 09: 17 New
        +4
        I'm not in mine. But sometimes I look from the balcony.
    2. Civil
      Civil 9 June 2020 07: 35 New
      +1
      Who lost the air, he lost the war, at this stage, although the Hussites can, however, the terrain is different there.
    3. Shurik70
      Shurik70 9 June 2020 07: 36 New
      0
      What is the shaded area on the map?
      Judging by the map, the purpose of this offensive is not destruction, but the displacement of Haftar’s forces.
      It is strange.
    4. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 9 June 2020 07: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Gritsa
      all these statements and the pulling together of troops are an attempt to save face before defeat.

      On the face of the well-known dilemma (!): "The lower classes" (Ebipet ...) "want, but they cannot ...", and the "upper classes" (the USA ...) "can, but do not want ..."! In general, the United States will shout at Egypt, and it will pull troops in the opposite direction ...
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 9 June 2020 09: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: Gritsa
      It would be interesting to look at the fight between Egypt and Turkey in a foreign country. But, most likely, there will be no fight. I think that the Egyptians will collapse


      Throw tanks and helicopters for the parade?
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 June 2020 07: 10 New
    +5
    Haftar forces acted without actually creating a rear military infrastructure.

    There are no fortifications and strongholds, few long-range reconnaissance assets, and an acute shortage of air attack weapons (be it airplanes or UAVs). These are perhaps the main reasons for the defeat of the Haftar army.
  3. Gardamir
    Gardamir 9 June 2020 07: 15 New
    +3
    How much do experts pay? I would go to experts.
    1. Altona
      Altona 9 June 2020 08: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      How much do experts pay? I would go to experts.

      ---------------------
      Gardamir, I am also inclined to this thought. The fall of Haftar was already evident at the end of April. It was only necessary to monitor the Internet for a couple of days, without disdaining enemy and frankly anti-Russian resources, they directly excitedly talk about it and release videos for the slightest reason.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 9 June 2020 07: 18 New
    +2
    The batch is certainly small-town .... but then there is no country now and no one from the outside will restore it! Everyone has their own interests!
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 June 2020 07: 24 New
    +4
    Basmachi is basmachi ... that 100 years ago in Turkestan, now in Libya. The same manners of warfare, the same tactics and no strategy ... Savages, s ... any technique cannot help them ...
  6. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 9 June 2020 07: 50 New
    +2
    Yesterday, it seemed like there was news that Egypt sent troops into Libya, and all was quiet. A column of military in the sun went warm or what? Where did it go, why can’t you hear what Egypt is doing?
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 9 June 2020 08: 56 New
      +3
      The news could be fake. not a single authoritative source confirmed it
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 9 June 2020 09: 56 New
        0
        Maybe a fake to distract someone’s strength, only if this can really save the situation. Or maybe they will wait when they cease to pay attention to them and really come in, there will be an unexpected.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 9 June 2020 09: 58 New
          +4
          No, the fact that they threw something to the border there is still a fact and recorded on video. But the fact that they crossed this border and struck a blow is all speculation. No need to believe any post on VO.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 9 June 2020 10: 06 New
            +1
            Yes, I didn’t read about it on a military review, or rather, first there, but then I saw the news on the Internet. I don’t know about the strikes, but about the entrance of the military convoy was in the news.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 9 June 2020 09: 25 New
      +4
      Easy - for Sisi is a very big fan of Parades and shows. The viewing parade of victory over Coronovirus is worth what. In general, I will not be surprised if they turn around at the border in the desert and conduct a review for Sisi.



  7. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 9 June 2020 07: 53 New
    +1
    One blanket for such a crowd, there will always be someone who gets less, that's to divide.
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  9. knn54
    knn54 9 June 2020 08: 37 New
    +5
    1. Not an army, but a "vinaigrette".
    2. Strongly stretched his troops.
    3. The Turks closed the airspace, depriving him of his superiority in the air.
    This sharply weakened the military capabilities of the Haftar army.
    Almost the last hope of the Marshal of Libya. NO people of the interventionists (militants and Turks) do not like.
    And the MAIN THING is not to lose the airbase. As for the coast, there is no arguing against Turkish frigates.
  10. alexmach
    alexmach 9 June 2020 08: 54 New
    +7
    Looks like it’s time for Marshal to be demoted to corporal
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 June 2020 09: 19 New
      10
      He is with Gaddafi colonel was.
      In 2011, revolutionaries made him a general, because he doesn’t sound like a general’s commander in the rank of colonel.
      Then a pocket thought in Tobruk awarded him and promoted him, at the request of Haftar. I would not be surprised if he dreamed of appearing as Generalisimus at the parade on the occasion of the capture of Tripoli.
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 9 June 2020 09: 24 New
      10
      Haftar fought in Chad in the same way in the 80s. The same style, the same result. Apparently, in 30 years I have not learned anything.
      I did not really understand why Gaddafi then renounced him ?. Now understand.
    3. Jager
      Jager 15 June 2020 00: 49 New
      0
      There was one famous corporal. He finished badly.
  11. donavi49
    donavi49 9 June 2020 09: 14 New
    +3
    They drove the entire machinery in al-Watiyah


    In AlVatia they took 3,5 trophies. Compared to Tarhuna, there was no equipment at all. Therefore, the appeal is untenable. Yes, a strategic position was lost. However, this is again a hundred kilometers from Tarhuna and the main direction.

    Haftar slept 3 hits:
    1) The collapse of the western claws, breaking the road to Tunisia in March.
    2) The fall of Al-Vatiya and the end of all dreams of the West of Libya.
    3) The collapse of positions and flight from Tripoli.

    2,5 months passed between the first and the last.

    Here Lyamin has an excellent post on abandoned equipment in South Tripoli
    https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/931503.html




    And even from the rembase, where they threw the T-62M in green, a bunch of T-55, BMP - at first there were doubts, but was it firewood? But then the broads made a video, like several abandoned tanks, they simply demanded to add diesel fuel and they went. As a result, more than 30 tanks and BMP + 9 Palmaria in the vicinity were abandoned at that base alone.
    1. boss
      boss 10 June 2020 03: 40 New
      +1
      And who ever thought how many Haftars had lost various equipment since the start of the triumphal attack on tripoli?
      How many?
      Aircraft
      Tanks
      Lightly armored vehicles?
      Means of air defense?
      Artillery and rocket mortars?
      In the comparison table with the loss of pns.
      And how much, at least approximately what is left?
      And then the dns dps does not save at all.
      Havtar’s armor doesn’t end.
      Got ratings and opinions?
  12. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 June 2020 09: 32 New
    +4
    So, the PNS does not win because it fights well and right, but because the LPR fights badly and not right?
    Familiar motive. wassat
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 9 June 2020 10: 00 New
      +4
      And in the course of the PNS, he began to fight much better only with the appearance of Turkish curators there. Well, before that, the truth was a year withstanding a "decisive offensive" on Tripoli.
      1. Mikhail Ya2
        Mikhail Ya2 11 June 2020 08: 13 New
        0
        Mirror situation, as in Syria. If not for the Russian Federation, militants in Syria destroyed Assad.
  13. steelmaker
    steelmaker 9 June 2020 09: 35 New
    +5
    So much for the marshal! Clown! Education must be received, not bought !!
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 June 2020 09: 59 New
    0
    ... without leaving reinforced rear. That is why the system works like a chain of dominoes ...
    And there is nothing to add. Hope for Allah, but don’t be bad. And the Turks apparently liked the tactics with the UAV, but constantly repeating it is possible to sort out big troubles.
  15. pereselenec
    pereselenec 9 June 2020 10: 05 New
    0
    The expert named the reason for the rapid retreat of the Haftar army in Libya


    NO SHOWER
  16. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 9 June 2020 10: 54 New
    0
    The Turks understand their real interest, and therefore support the PNS, but Haftar probably has not promised anything to anyone or not much.
  17. Dysindich
    Dysindich 9 June 2020 11: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Gritsa
    It would be interesting to look at the fight between Egypt and Turkey in a foreign country. But, most likely, there will be no fight. I think that the Egyptians will collapse and all these statements and the pulling together of troops are an attempt to save face before defeat.

    And it does not smell close to the confrontation between Turkey and Egypt, and it never smelled. (and the Turks have not lost their minds yet). In the border area, there has never been any frontal interaction. Traditionally, gangs of neglected people who sneeze on who is in power in Libya are traditionally operating there. They are opposed by Egypt (since they raid Egyptian territory and kill the Egyptians). Turkey never supported these scumbags (they have no oil resources, but as an ally - a bandit, is weak).