On the ruins of an ancient civilization


"I want to tell you this so that you know that there will still be blood ..."

M.A. Bulgakov. The Master and Margarita


So, a very large environmental disaster occurred in Norilsk. 20 thousand tons of oil products into the river - this, sorry, is no worse than in the Gulf of Mexico.

However, no one asks the inhabitants of the waters, so ...

So we reflect on the eternal Russian theme "Who is to blame and what to do with it."

I will give out the main consideration right away so as not to languish. The global warming is to blame for the incident, the Soviet Union, which built the facility without foreseeing warming after 40 years, and the shop manager.

Why is that? But because that's how we live.

And now, poor Mr. Potanin will have to lay out 10 billion rubles from his pocket ...

Okay, maybe you don’t have to splurge like that. In 2015, when Mr. Potanin divorced Mrs. Potanina, the Presnensky court in Moscow concluded that Vladimir Potanin is neither a co-owner of Norilsk Nickel, nor a co-owner of Interros holding, which owns a 30,03% stake in Norilsk Nickel.

And rumors spread, opinions began to be expressed that there was enough ugliness to do, it was necessary to “Nornickel” to tear from private hands and return to the state. So that the state takes care that its leading combine brings profit to the treasury and does not crap into the state rivers. So that it, the state, does not spend later on cleaning up these rivers.


Well, everything was explained at the highest level, there will be no re-privatization, we are not barbarians, after all ... How can offend such worthy people like Vladimir Potanin and Oleg Deripaska? Dear people, order bearers for their services to the Fatherland and the state ...

Yes, they can also have problems and accidents. Like, for example, RAO UES led by Chubais. Remember, there was an accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station? So what? And nothing. The accident happened in 2009, and RAO "UES of Russia" was liquidated and torn apart in 2008. So no one is to blame.

Mr. Chubais and his team from 1998 to 2008 did nothing but make profit from the hydroelectric power station. Well, it’s not stated in any law that the owner is obliged to make repairs. There is a possibility - there will be a repair. There is no possibility - do not exact. Then the state (that is, taxpayers) will correct everything at its own expense, if something happens.

And in Norilsk, as part of the investigation, who was detained? Correctly (to those who did not think about the owner or CEO of the enterprise), the head of the boiler-turbine workshop! It turns out who the pest is!

However, the CEO also did not evade responsibility! A WARNING (!!!) was announced to him about the impermissibility of violating the law during the operation of especially dangerous facilities.

Laughter and tears at the same time. Twenty. Thousand. Tons It is poured into the river, and the CEO is threatened with a finger and reminded that doing this, in general, is not good. But if you have at hand the head of the workshop, which can be detained and imprisoned, then, in general, it is possible.

Found Vyacheslav Starostin. Having worked all his life at the enterprise.

Miracles, and only. Moreover, in the execution of the General Prosecutor's Office, which issued such a warning. True, as many as three cases have already been opened, but ...

Land damage, water pollution and safety violations during work. Here are three articles (246, 250 and 254 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) on which they will conduct an investigation. I wonder what will happen in the end.

And so it is with us. Punishment is borne by anyone, but not the owner.

Of course, Abramovich is not to blame for the fact that the Raspadskaya mine exploded. The mechanics, engineers and employees who appeared before the court were to blame. The Directorate was not touched. Directors and owners are not guilty of the deaths of more than 100 people.

Of course, Shtengelov is not to blame for the tragedy of the Winter Cherry, when 156 people died. But no one was punished there at all. Stengelov is now developing tennis in Australia. About Kemerovo affairs and does not remember, most likely.

Of course, Chubais had nothing to do with the tragedy at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station, where 75 people died.

Thank God that only nature will perish in Norilsk. And it’s a pity that if anyone will be punished, this is another switchman.

Alas, a vicious practice at the state level: anyone is to blame, but not the owners. The owners of factories, mines, enterprises - they are illegal. The owners of life who just have to take everything from this life or even a little more.

So, let's say, there were no questions to Potanin in this regard and cannot be. Although he is the founding father of collateral auctions, which, in fact, allowed him to buy such enterprises as Norilsk Nickel, Svyazinvest, NLMK, Siberian-Far Eastern Oil Company, Novorossiysk Shipping Company, and North-West shipping company "...

About many we hear enthusiastic responses in terms of successful work?

No. And do not hear. Not for that, everything was started.

Yes, under President Yeltsin, a grand carnival was organized with the distribution of state-owned enterprises on the cheap. And whoever had the money (or, as in the case of the smart Mr. Potanin, a method in the form of collateral auctions), were purchased according to the full program.

Perhaps only in Russia this could happen. People who had nothing to do with enterprises received them in their complete submission.


The time of building socialism has sunk into the past with the country that built factories and ships. The country is everything, but factories and factories, mines and forests have remained. Well, they can’t disappear without diligent owner’s hands, right?

How many, I remember, in the 90s there were groans on the topic that under the USSR everything was bad, because there were no masters. “State means nobody!” There was such a cry-slogan.

Well, the owners have appeared. Not building, not paying a brick in the wall, not buying a single machine. But they appeared. Of course, there’s nothing to be done about it, no constitution can be regulated, how many “issues” the SC and the prosecutor’s office had, in addition, to Potanin in the past - and all “over the past years” have resolved.

I'm about something else now.

I mean that it turns out very strange: what, the USSR is to blame for the constantly occurring tragedies?

You know, that bitter anecdote from the 40s recalls when the tsar was accused of not being able to stock guns and ammunition for a hundred years.

Now the situation is about the same.

The enterprises received almost free of charge work to their fullest, not knowing the repairs. The main thing is the profit to the owner. And to pay and pay in the literal sense of health, life or freedom will be anyone, but not the owners.

A pleasant caste was formed on the ruins of socialist and social Soviet civilization.

Therefore, they will work on machines received after reparations after the Great Patriotic War, without replacing equipment, descend into mines for the safety of which the owner did not find money, and so on.

In general, as one of our video freaks says: “Capitalism is a class!” Yes, I agree, someone completely. Those who are at the very top and throw handouts from time to time to those who, with a sparkle in their eyes and foam around the silicone-filled lips, tell the story of how bad it was under the Soviet Union and how cool it will be under capitalism.

Who?

Yurochka, perhaps, will be. Ksenia is simply nowhere better. As for the rest, I’m not so sure.

On the whole, the events of recent years show that the margin of safety that was laid during the construction of structures in the USSR in the late 80s is approaching its natural end.

So, we still have a lot of bloody reports about the tragedies that will happen at Russian enterprises, whose owners, instead of making proper investments, develop tennis in Australia, buy paintings in the collections of French museums, buy the largest yachts and the most expensive villas in Israel.

Each, as they say, his own.

In the meantime, the owners of life will fully enjoy it, enjoying their significance, in the state of switchmen they created, those who deserve it will be sent to court and to prison.

No, I didn’t deserve it. Did the head of the ill-fated CHP plant deserve a court? No. But, alas, Putin will not ask him about this on video, the level is not the same. Because, as in one famous Soviet TV series: "It will sit! .."

And the storekeeper will be to blame for the fall of the rocket at the start. And the deputy chief engineer is to blame for the methane explosion in the mine.

So, on the ruins of the Soviet Union, an oligarchic and bureaucratic state of switchmen arose. Of course, with full approval ... No, not the people.

So, there will still be blood. Our blood. Not the master. Alas, we will pay our owners in full.
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  1. Pessimist22 9 June 2020 05: 28 New
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    Exactly the only video on YouTube I watched, with Konstantin Semin.
    1. Reptiloid 9 June 2020 06: 15 New
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      Everything is as it is written
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Exactly the only video on YouTube I watched, with Konstantin Semin.
      It was Joseph Vissarionovich who was not accused. This is strange even.
      1. rocket757 9 June 2020 06: 56 New
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        Dmitriy soldier
        in the article an exaggerated retelling of what everyone already knows about ... i.e. what's the point?
        Moreover, the case has not yet been completed, but, although the consequences can be predicted with some probability, we must wait for the real facts and solutions ... but for now this is an empty sketch.
        Moreover, the systematic solution of OUR PROBLEMS must be approached in a very different way ...
        1. Reptiloid 9 June 2020 07: 13 New
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          Good morning Victor! hi Accusations against the USSR, multiply every day. That's what pisses me off. And somehow no system analysis is visible.
          But perhaps a system analysis has been made and it is not in much favor of today's ones, therefore the accusations of the USSR continue
          As if EBN weren’t in nature at all, negative when exactly did the destruction begin am
          1. rocket757 9 June 2020 07: 22 New
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            It is not interesting to anyone to blame the current rulers and those who have, and this is dangerous.
            However, this is a specific matter, it has nothing to do with the USSR, so completely frostbitten / stupid people who DO NOT DARE to yank in any other direction will be barking in that direction.
            1. Reptiloid 9 June 2020 09: 06 New
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              Victor, I’m more interested in how they will award the reindeer herder Berdyev, who is on deer for several days, what would the photo be in Odnoklassniki?
              Otherwise, no one would know. am Neither the governor, nor the owners ..... And so the leaders learned from social networks.
              1. rocket757 9 June 2020 09: 15 New
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                The slip of the effective came out. Now their MOST will probably have to fork out!
                I think that the corresponding "buns" will be received by all "uninvited" even by law.
                And the reindeer herder sho, it is indicative to sink into the permafrost, as a warning to the descendants ??? it makes no sense, the martyrs were, are and will be, if only someone could see their torment and tell EVERYTHING! And this time has already come! The World Wide Web, however, didn’t get there, and could not be cut down with a vigorous ax!
            2. DVR
              DVR 9 June 2020 15: 29 New
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              current rulers and having, and it's dangerous

              It sounds so ridiculous from the mouth of the accuser :) You probably write and the whole thing shakes with fear.
              Yes, here all the branches are overwhelmed with accusations, the whole YouTube and the Internet as a whole. And fair criticism and outright lies. Have fun, thanks.
              1. rocket757 9 June 2020 18: 24 New
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                Everything happens the first time, then again .... distant, anonymous, not specific yapping towards anyone, this is pf-e, few people are interested.
                Concrete speeches against specific serious guys, on a specific ... topic, end in different ways.
                1. DVR
                  DVR 9 June 2020 19: 52 New
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                  Concrete speeches against specific serious guys, on a specific ... topic,

                  Well, yes, in the 90s coup with the connivance of all and the betrayal of the elite. Further, the brothers steered, all the rules - everyone was silent. Fell each other - no matter the day, then the news. No one spoke of injustice. I didn’t think that my small town would be lit up in one documentary series shown throughout Russia. His mother, about whom the film was shot, taught in a parallel class, sometimes with us. Now all of a sudden they began to be afraid. When Abramovich and Deripaska sawed everything, when the Gaidars and Chubais sat silently and did not protrude, and now all the softs are “military”. When unique competencies are restored, when strategic enterprises are built, when we are already in the Premier League in a number of areas - and all the moans and groans that we have already got. Yes, the maximum that these groaning and protesting are capable of, is to let gravy into the socks from tension) And maybe this is for the best ...
                  1. rocket757 9 June 2020 20: 21 New
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                    Well, yes, and the man who phoned the whole world about the spill of diesel fuel in the region, where against the "effective managers" of a particular company, the regional authorities, with their head, did not dare to blather ... yes, yes, this person did NOT RISK ANYTHING ??? Are you sure about that?
                    I, from such illusions, delivered for a long time and forever, it seems.
                    When good, meaningful things happen in a country, we rejoice.
                    When the bad happens, there is no joy, it is necessary to understand, punish the guilty and seeks to prevent a repetition in the future.
                    Everyone should receive the "earrings", who deserved what.
                    1. DVR
                      DVR 9 June 2020 22: 43 New
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                      Well, yes, there is always a risk. There are enough tyrants, and they will always be. And now what? In the USA (not at the moment) you can get a lead pill for an oblique look. And censorship will give a head start 3 times. There are a million examples. He sued the cops (even before the reform) out of principle, without resorting to a lawyer - he won twice. They warned that hunting for me already, there would be set-ups. And why all these sketches? Where were everyone in the 90s when the little guys taxied? When a country is on the brink of an abyss. I, too, was the anti-Putin of the year before 2011-2012. Then he somehow rethought what actually happened in the 91st, in fact, that we have why the king is good, and the boyars are bad, etc.
                      I already wrote here, we could not help but see:
                      Do you agree that the leadership of the Russian Federation will hand over everything, as they have already passed it, tomorrow the West will transfer trillions of them to personal accounts, and will give all guarantees of immunity. They will do everything without deception, because then the whole world is “in your pocket”. Fortunately, an example of this is still alive, I made the price cheaper, I could not evaluate what I was selling, I probably regretted it (maybe I regret it, which I doubt). “And believe me, in a day all Western media will admire their genius and insight. And then the Western elite will organize a celebration in London of their anniversary (eightieth anniversary, apparently) and will again admire their wisdom. In the meantime, it will go on for tens of millions of lives. .. of our lives, it’s already passed, and the bill is worth tens of millions (and I’m not talking about the Second World War).

                      Well, let's swing, who will use it? You or your like-minded people? You will burrow in the burrows or dig in the forest belt, and everyone will be silent. Everything has already been painted here, and beyond them are real resources and organization, action plans are detailed to the smallest detail, including transferring nuclear weapons to NATO countries. Resources are such that never dreamed of. In Ukraine, they also wanted lace panties to Europe, but they received ... Thousands of victims and the neo-Nazi regime.
                      It will be like this:
                      https://vk.com/video163296047_168410119
                      or like this
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=0Z_BomHI25E&feature=emb_title
                      These are the easiest moments.
                      Well, everyone knows about Odessa - it will also be, and a lot of what else.
                      Fear further, shake.
            3. Motorist 10 June 2020 00: 27 New
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              It’s not interesting for anyone to blame the current rulers and those who have

              If the bosses are guilty, then this turns out to be a mistake or negligence at a senior level. Insurance is not paid for this, you need to look for the extreme (or really guilty - the human factor has not yet been canceled) staff.

              Under capitalism, this everywhere it works, not only
              on the ruins of the Soviet Union
          2. Civil 9 June 2020 08: 17 New
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            hi Accusations against the USSR, to multiply every day

            Yeah, because running out of resources former national enterprises.
            Unfortunately, nothing like this can be built, because there are no such resources.
            1. Reptiloid 9 June 2020 08: 25 New
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              Quote: Civil
              ...... Unfortunately, nothing like this can be built, because there are no such resources.
              in my opinion, the point is not in the availability of resources, but in the correctness of their use.
              There were reports of bonuses to the company's management on the network, they are commensurate with 10bn.
              1. Lexus 9 June 2020 08: 53 New
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                in my opinion, the point is not in the availability of resources, but in the correctness of their use.

                Greetings, colleague!
                See how many disagree with your point of view. Apparently, it is much more important to encircle the country "takeaway" with all these "Powerlessness of Siberia" and a bunch of "Outflows". Ah, well, palaces, yachts, planes, paintings and other trinkets - how could a little dwellers live without them.

                But if you have at hand a shop manager who can be detained and imprisoned, then, in general, you can

                Pralna, a person worked there all his life. So, I definitely knew about the problem. / Sarcasm / I do not exclude that the technical staff repeatedly informed them that the barrel was already kirdyk, and it’s time to build a new one, but who listens to them when the Forbes race is much more important.
                1. Reptiloid 9 June 2020 09: 11 New
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                  Who knows,Lexus, dear! maybe they informed, maybe they did screeds and sealants request We will not know about it.
                  1. Lexus 9 June 2020 09: 22 New
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                    Alas, now any trial ends with finding a terpil and hang everything on it. At first they are intimidated, and then they seem to loosen their grip. They will scout for a “deal” (consideration in a special order), and even there will be no keen from the courtroom and publicity of the materials of the process. Dark deeds love silence. (WITH)
              2. New Year day 9 June 2020 10: 07 New
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                Quote: Reptiloid
                in my opinion, the point is not in the availability of resources, but in the correctness of their use.

                The problem is systemic! If managers become related, then the result is appropriate.
                Only two super-duper managers were kicked out. but billions have already gone into the tundra - “Power in Siberia” has been built, and there is no gas under which the pipe was built. Wrong little

                Where is the pipe m and why, if there is no gas? request
                https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/08/poshlo_poehalo/?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com
                1. Lexus 9 June 2020 11: 13 New
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                  Where is the pipe m and why, if there is no gas? request
                  https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/08/poshlo_poehalo

                  Colleague, thank you, read the article on the "Ribbon". It says that "trillion losses" looms to Gazprom because of this "ill". So, after all, he is already in a “hollow” and debts, like a silly dog ​​in fleas. I want to ask the "believers" - at whose expense will the banquet be? SMS voting will be collected? No line is foreseen in the ranks of persons deceived by hooligans - the people have already sponsored the victory over the “carpet-moth” and “zeroed out”, without demand, held back. Masks dropped, the last skins torn off. I would like to remind you that for the hungry, the triple chins of well-fed "rowers" in gastronomic terms will be preferable to the bastards' mates in misfortune. Does History Teach Nothing?
                  1. bk316 9 June 2020 16: 03 New
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                    It says that "trillion losses" looms to Gazprom because of this "ill".

                    Read not nonsense scribblers, but at least Sylvester's help
                  2. And it's good that she, History, and x does not teach anything, dear Lexus. Wouldn't it be nice for us, people, to see how the meeting of ET and X will take place with the people in an “informal setting”? Vysotsky (?) Had a song on ,, Odessa motives ,, .. Such words were in it: ,, .. and the bladder freed ,,. Eccentric cunning do not believe that it is NECESSARY to PAY FOR ALL? Well, okay. It will be more pleasant for us people, in due time, to look into their surprised-frightened pig eyes
                2. bk316 9 June 2020 14: 24 New
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                  the problem is systemic

                  Greetings. What kind of system and not one but two problems here.

                  - "by kinship" - everything is clear here, the manager is still nothing, but imagine a neurosurgeon "by kinship", by the way the programmer "by kinship" is also that crap - we know, we saw it.

                  - “Manager is not a specialty” - everyone can lead us, and so they think, not only at the top, they explain in 90% how the COUNTRY should be managed. But there are no managers and is not expected, even if Miller is a good leader, but what's the point if he has such deputies? And I damn know where these come from, they can't sit in the head, so they’re wonderful deputies. am
                  1. New Year day 9 June 2020 15: 26 New
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                    Quote: bk316
                    they cannot sit up to the chief, therefore wonderful

                    because they are ZAMy! laughing
          3. New Year day 9 June 2020 08: 25 New
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            Quote: Reptiloid
            Accusations against the USSR, multiply every day.

            on the bench still World War I, the Pechenegs and Polovtsy.
            Quote: Reptiloid
            system analysis done

            and it consists in the fact that the resource of the constructed USSR is ending, and the appetite of the newest Khoyazayev is gone. Living on the principle of “after us at least a flood” they don’t think about their homeland, as there is always a private plane with a spare aerodrome in the West
          4. Krasnoyarsk 9 June 2020 08: 32 New
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            Quote: Reptiloid

            But perhaps a system analysis has been made and it is not in much favor of today's ones, therefore the accusations of the USSR continue

            And why is it spent on system analysis if the perpetrator is already there - the USSR?
            But my question is - 20 tons of diz. fuel = 000 cubic meters, what was the capacity if the capacity of 24 meters in diameter and 390 meters in height is 10 cubic meters?
            Or am I counting something wrong?
            1. Aviator_ 9 June 2020 08: 48 New
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              Counted incorrectly, 750 cubic meters will be, but this does not change the essence
              1. Krasnoyarsk 9 June 2020 08: 56 New
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                Quote: Aviator_
                Counted wrong, 750 cubic meters will be,

                Well, to be precise - 785 cubic meters.

                Quote: Aviator_
                but it doesn’t change the essence

                How not to change? Can you imagine a capacity of 24.390 cubic meters?
                1. Aviator_ 9 June 2020 09: 11 New
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                  Of course, the coefficient there (the Greek name for the number was banned) is not 3, but more. Does not change the essence of your question, I'm talking about it. In fact, one can imagine a hypothetical situation when the tank bursts when filling, and the filling continues, despite the hole (this is an assumption). Then you can pour so much. But it’s not clear where the filling comes from - from the pipeline?
                2. Motorist 10 June 2020 00: 43 New
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                  Can you imagine a capacity of 24.390 cubic meters?

                  Diameter 40, height 20 (offhand). Will it go like this?
                  1. Motorist 10 June 2020 00: 58 New
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                    By the way, what is diesel fuel? Arctic, or what? I always counted the ship's summer at 0.85 - 0.86 (23500 m³).

                    And those who are on TV do not distinguish cubes from tons - they could easily confuse.
            2. KERMET 9 June 2020 08: 56 New
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              For example, the capacity of the RVS-50000
              Already from the name it is clear how much tank volume is
              1. Krasnoyarsk 9 June 2020 09: 06 New
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                Quote: KERMET
                For example, the capacity of the RVS-50000

                5000 cubes found. I did not find others. Him
                Diameter = 20.92 m.
                Height = 15 m.
                Can you imagine a capacity 5 times larger?
                What is the point of making such a capacity, if it is much easier to make 5 tanks of 5 cubic meters each?
                Something about this oil spill song is wrong.
                1. Pashhenko Nikolay 9 June 2020 10: 32 New
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                  20000 cup containers are almost standard at the bases. 40 m diameter, 18 m height. There are more.
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                  In terms of metal content, 4 to 5000 will be worse at times.
                  And by the complexity of manufacturing, by the way - too.
              2. hydrox 9 June 2020 09: 14 New
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                That's right, this is the most massive size meter for TransNeft.
                But for large enterprises, this size is not running, they use more than 5-10 thousand people, usually at least 2 pieces, for the Severs there may be a larger quantity due to the specifics of delivery.
                1. Krasnoyarsk 9 June 2020 09: 37 New
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                  Quote: hydrox
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                  there more than 5-10 thousandths are used, usually at least 2 pieces, for the North

                  You say - "Here is a stubborn one!"
                  But I’ll still say - it’s about 24 thousand cubic meters!
                  And if such containers do not exist in nature, then: 1. either not one tank but two or more has become leaky and this is unlikely, or 2. the volume of solarium that has got into the river is specially overestimated. What for? To get more funds to eliminate the consequences.
                  1. ghby 9 June 2020 14: 19 New
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                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    You say - "Here is a stubborn one!"
                    But I’ll still say - it’s about 24 thousand cubic meters!
                    And if such containers do not exist in nature, then: 1. either not one tank but two or more has become leaky and this is unlikely, or 2. the volume of solarium that has got into the river is specially overestimated. What for? To get more funds to eliminate the consequences.

                    https://r-stroitel.ru/catalog/rvs/ смотрите изучайте, вот видео еще есть
                    1. Krasnoyarsk 9 June 2020 16: 30 New
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                      Quote: ghby
                      / see learn

                      Everything, everything, men, give up!
                  2. hydrox 9 June 2020 14: 36 New
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                    If you looked carefully at the photographs, then there are at least 3 such PBCs. All pumping is recorded by time and by volume in the logbook.
                    The way the PIC sole was made is a flagrant violation: since the time of Stalin, ALL buildings were built in Norilsk on a grillage or on piles, while the space under the building was MANDATORY blown and forbidden to the fence. The same was true for other structures. It is seen in the photo that the pallet production in the tank is surrounded by concrete slabs.
                    The embankment was carried out with violations, so the solarium went straight to the Kara Sea :: with such volumes and the absence of obstacles to the lake. She reached Pyasino from 0,5 days to 1 day: did the solarium get into the Kara Sea - you need to look at the weather report and the direction of the winds (south winds aggravate the situation).
                    1. Krasnoyarsk 9 June 2020 16: 34 New
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                      Quote: hydrox
                      since the time of Stalin, ALL buildings were built in Norilsk on a grillage or on piles, while the space under the building

                      In distant childhood, he lived in Dudinka for several years (by our standards, it is next to Norilsk), even sidewalks for pedestrians were there on stilts.
                      1. hydrox 10 June 2020 06: 33 New
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                        I served for two years in a place between Alykel and the Airport ...
                        What mushrooms, cloudberries and deer were there !!!!!!!
                    2. cradle 10 June 2020 02: 27 New
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                      I’m embarrassed to ask, what is a grillage? Well, in your understanding, kaneshno. And it is not necessary to build reservoirs on a pile foundation in the areas of VM. We are currently making a concrete foundation (2.70 m deep, in Yakutia), a heater on top, then a concrete slab, and then RVS itself. But this is 1000 cubic meters.
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                        As for the grillage, you, as a builder, were taught the course “Foundations and foundations, and what you call a heater is called“ thermal insulation ”in textbooks for your case. Floating foundations are usually called“ Swedish ”(or Finnish), and the bases are chosen by nature of soils :: there are rocky, but there are quicksuits, the rest are in-between. Dig up more knowledge on heat-insulating substrates ... big science, you know.
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                        no need to write pseudo intelligences. You yourself wrote in the previous koment that they say with an IVS or on piles or on a grillage. I have raised this issue, because without a grillage, piles cannot be connected in one frame. You wrote nonsense, and dodging trying to teach me how to teach construction. You dig into the terms insulation and thermal insulation. A specific question was about the grillage. The grillage is the upper part of the pile or column foundation, which distributes the load from the load-bearing elements of the building (structure). FSE has to do it yourself. He asked himself, he answered ...
        2. bk316 9 June 2020 14: 33 New
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          Accusations against the USSR, to multiply every day

          And who actually blames? THIS must be a complete imbecile.
          Well, where does the USSR? Yes, under the USSR there were accidents and worse, and under the EBN, the capital fund was also stolen. So what?

          Specifically, this capacity and foundation that no one has examined in 20 years?
          Well then, you need to plant supervision.
          Or examined and wrote?
          Well then, you have to plant the operators.
          Only I think everything was different - examined and saw subsidence, ONLY AGREED. For it’s expensive to repair such a tank. Someone from the technical supervision goes to Kruzak .... And the money for Kruzak will not come out of nowhere, so it’s good to sit here to someone who pretended to be nothing wrong, to someone who knows and continues to operate and who organized this process ... .
          1. hydrox 9 June 2020 16: 55 New
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            Yes, it is clear that this is collective gouging, but in addition it is also a belief that they will protect, smear, help out, and 21 thousand cubic meters in the Kara Sea does not cost anything if billions flow to bank accounts.
            In the hot Gulf of Mexico, all the oil oxidized over the season and went to the bottom, in the Arctic this process will be dragged on for decades, and no one knows where the currents will bring this oil - because it can be herring and cod spawning cans ...
        3. Comrade Michael 9 June 2020 16: 43 New
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          The system is built on this, the next protects the body of the previous one, and blame everything on the USSR, which has long since died.
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          In the USSR, you wouldn’t know anything at all about such accidents and emergency situations, and they would put that guy in the heat and power plant vryatli or do something because he had been working in his post for only a month during this time, he would only manage to accept the economy as it is.
      2. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 07: 53 New
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        in the article an exaggerated retelling of what everyone already knows about ... i.e. what's the point?

        There is nothing to make sense of, but people need to be reminded of the poor, and maybe poor Russian billionaires. A reminder is always needed, otherwise it will seem to the people that everywhere "quiet, smoothness and God's grace." Although even a child now knows that greedy Russian capitalism (and whether it was Russian ??? Won Abramovich was a Russian oligarch, and now an Israeli billionaire) capitalism can only squeeze juices from industry, land and people, but is not in a hurry to build.
        1. rocket757 9 June 2020 08: 06 New
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          Tell Vlad, for what purpose do they resemble what seems to be already tightly spelled out in the subcortex of our layman?
          What do we have, some scribbles reminiscent of nothing, nothing prepositional? And will it be any good, at least some? It seems to me that there will be no talk, neither now, nor later.
          I remember the dialogue, from the Dogma movie ... how there the punished "angel" was indignant, they overthrew him for it ... after all, he himself was not at the barricades, he only composed poems / ballads, sang for those who sought them! It's cool, really.
          1. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 09: 22 New
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            What do we have, some scribbles reminiscent of nothing, nothing prepositional?

            Proposalkins ended after 1953, and now only boltalkins remain.
            1. rocket757 9 June 2020 09: 34 New
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              Proposalkins ended after 1953, and now only boltalkins remain.

              Then, all the same, they were somewhat different, because the pro-salkins, then, automatically became executives! And it was very useful for BUSINESS, because the route for non-executives was well known!
          2. Dante Alighieri 9 June 2020 09: 28 New
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            For what purpose do they resemble what seems already spelled out tightly in the subcortex of our layman?

            Victor, but tell me why it was necessary to go to the people of revolutionary-minded youth in the 1870s. Didn’t the peasants themselves understand that although serfdom was abolished, nothing really changed for them (peasants), for together with the freedom of the land they did not receive, and therefore still depended on the landowner? Understood. Peasants in general, and then and now, are well aware of both their personal benefits and their immediate costs. If someone speaks impartially about the inhabitants of the countryside - do not believe it, because most likely this is a native of this very area, for some reason ashamed of its origin. Peasants always and everywhere are a very prudent and rational layer of society, even if not burdened with "extra" knowledge, which are of little use in direct life. But that's not the point. The bottom line is that the young people, just endowed with this knowledge, began a large-scale agitation and educational campaign among the peasantry, explaining to them what the peasants themselves perfectly understood, but could not put on in a form that could be understood by the majority. In your opinion it was an empty labor, but in reality everything is not so simple. The answer here lies in formal logic. You can not study, and even more so deal with a phenomenon that is corny has no definition, is not expressed and lives in the head in the form of an abstract idea. Only by calling black black and giving him a definition can we take further steps towards him. In my humble opinion, Roman, does the same thing that the Narodniks and others like them did in the 1860s and 70s, and he does this, albeit with caution (Article 280 of the Criminal Code, although authoritative, voluntarily closes it all few people want it), but quite consistently. Of course, you reasonably note that the Narodniks did not achieve their goal, for they were alien to the bulk of the peasantry. And it will be true. By half. For the second part of the truth is that without the actions of the Narodniks, the events that would have happened almost half a century later in October 1917 would not have been possible, the basis for which were the ideas that the revolutionary agitators, anchored in the minds of the peasants, multiplied by understanding the peasants of their personal benefits from the overthrow of the landlord-oligarchic system.
            1. rocket757 9 June 2020 09: 52 New
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              Victor, but tell me why it was necessary to go to the people of revolutionary-minded youth in the 1870s.

              I don’t want to argue, I just give an example from ... FILM "Eternal Call" !!! Such a good Soviet film!
              Remember, there was such a moment in the history of the Russian Empire when prosperous owners were allowed to redeem various properties from the COMMUNITY property. In the film, it was the Cedar massif, where the whole community harvested pine nuts ...
              The peasants, community members, understood perfectly well that, as it were, they could not do anything according to the LAW, although they REMOVED from them what they had traditionally considered theirs, communal. Only Riot !!! What would be the consequences for the rebels, for the community? It’s not difficult to guess ....
              They were just lucky that at that moment there was a LITERATURE person in the community, a revolutionary, a populist, a legalist, it doesn’t matter ... he just taught HOW TO PROPERLY GO, Schaub to defend HIS !!!
              This HELP, it helped ... not by words supported, worried about them, but Taught how to do the right thing.
              The point is ... MUSTERS are more than enough for us, we have TEACHERS leading the deficit.
              I have NO questions for the author of the article, it’s NOT INTERESTING to me anymore, but distracts others and they let out all the steam in the whistle .... not productively.
        2. depressant 9 June 2020 09: 21 New
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          Yes ... tihonmarine, it remains only to shrug and freeze in amazement. People, entering a new apartment, the first thing they are planning is repair! Someone capital, someone cosmetic, but they are up to. Often, just to make the spirit of the previous owner disappear ... For example, let’s say, having received the enterprise in possession, the first thing I would organize was to check the condition of the good I got and repair it if necessary.
          These are not oligarchs. The Soviet good, preserving the imprint of collective ownership, arouses disgust and hatred in them, reminding in its spirit of a communal apartment that they did not go into counts or princes with a snout. Therefore, using it squeamishly (the money recovered as an end product does not smell), the oligarchs perceive the Soviet legacy as just a consumable. They are not going to live in Russia! Because he unscrewed the good, squeezed out of it dollars, and you can throw it away. Repair and even, God forbid, modernization is when you have a sense of master. And where did he get that feeling from? We shout to them: "You are thieves! Thieves!" Do you think the oligarchs do not know, do not realize that they are thieves? This gives rise to a paradox - on the one hand, they are formal masters, on the other - the so-called nesuns from the 70s:
          "Drag every nail from work, you're the boss here, not the guest!"
          So they drag it hastily - oil, gas, etc. Turning into personal states. A "consumable" in the form of entire industries turns into rags.
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            Quote: depressant
            Yes ... oligarchs perceive the Soviet legacy only as a consumable. They are not going to live in Russia! Because he unscrewed the good, squeezed out of it dollars, and you can throw it away. Repair and even, God forbid, modernization is when you have a sense of master. And where did he get that feeling from? We shout to them: "You are thieves! Thieves!" Do you think the oligarchs do not know, do not realize that they are thieves? This gives rise to a paradox - on the one hand, they are formal masters, on the other - the so-called nesuns from the 70s:
            "Drag every nail from work, you're the boss here, not the guest!"
            So they drag it hastily - oil, gas, etc. Turning into personal states. A "consumable" in the form of entire industries turns into rags.
            hi smile request thank you very much, Lyudmila! I could not articulate it completely. But I will continue your thought. Yes, they know that they are thieves and they know that they will once lose the stolen goods. Therefore, they do this, ------- To snatch, one more time, while I have time, one more piece ....
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          Abramovich was a Russian oligarch, and now an Israeli billionaire)

          So Abramovich is perhaps the first who to the end trampled on that path that each of the first hundred Russians (former! (And from the next 5 thousand !!) from the Forbes list wants to go through. This path may not necessarily end in Israel, but "there is NO extradition from Israel !!"
        4. Overlock 9 June 2020 17: 44 New
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          it is necessary to remind the people of the poor, and maybe the poor, Russian billionaires.

          Are the rich crying too? hi
          Starring Potanin
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        . In the meantime, this is an empty sketch.

        Good article. If you think this is an empty sketch, then what can Roman Skomorokhov do in the framework of this article? He is not a legislator in any way to amend laws and tighten the responsibility of the owners of plants, ships for the maintenance and safety of their property. It remains to state the facts.
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          If you consider this an empty sketch, then what can Roman Skomorokhov do in the framework of this article?

          If I thought that what was written is NOT true, I would have said so, BUT, in fact, although the article is distorted, everything is so, or almost so!
          I believe that there is no longer any sense in such articles, because THIS has already been understood, memorized and ... NOTHING!
          It’s time to give a system analysis, write in such a way that it becomes clear WHAT TO DO, so that we crawl out of the quagmire into which we are already sucked by the very best!
          It’s just that nothing can be built, achieved, by criticizing the current system, we must try to captivate the people with the process of creating, improving OUR life! It's time, it's time.
          1. Dante Alighieri 9 June 2020 09: 41 New
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            It’s time to give a system analysis, write in such a way that it becomes clear WHAT TO DO, so that we crawl out of the quagmire into which we are already sucked by the very best!

            Unfortunately, the recipes and schemes of what to do fall under the relevant articles of the criminal code, which means that it is impossible to do such an analysis within the country without the occurrence of well-defined legal consequences, and if done outside of the Russian Federation, such work will automatically turn into a product of the State in the eyes of ordinary people. Depa, even if the latter did not know about him. I will say one thing: there are practically no legal ways to influence the situation. This does not mean that I urge you to specific actions, on the contrary. However, I think you are capable of making quite certain conclusions for yourself. But in general ... read the classics of philosophical and political thought (it’s still possible) everything is described there: both schemes and recipes for how to do it, and don’t.
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              Unfortunately, recipes and schemes of what to do fall under

              Recipes? This is not a culinary college, Schaub distributing them ... however, this place of exchange of opinions will do.
              Quote: Dante
              But in general ... read the classics of philosophical and political thought (it’s still possible) everything is described there: both schemes and recipes for how to do it, and don’t.

              Self-education is for .... but why?
              It’s just that there are more organized, thematically prepared communities where everyone can turn to and “savvy” on the relevant topics, but we all whistle, let off steam ....
          2. depressant 9 June 2020 11: 07 New
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            Colleague rocket757, let me disagree with you. Criticism of what is is not an empty sketch. There is a government to develop strategies and plans. It does its work. But in the absence of responsibility at the legislative level for the deed and loud criticism of the lured "fourth power", namely the media (in the leading media there is only a lingering pushing even now), not only the old Soviet legacy, but also the new one, will collapse for the construction of which, by decision of political authority, money was found. Criticism of VO is our only weapon against the outrages that are being created, but for reasons of personal security we use it very carefully. Not only that. So you take a moderate position, and a number of colleagues sing praises to the government - because the shelves are full in stores? Or was a greenhouse built somewhere on the site of an old factory in Moscow? Therefore? So shelves full of goods - this is very fixable! Do we not know ...
            Now back to your proposal to inspire people with the process of creation. To take the same “Power of Siberia” mentioned above - much more constructive and inspiring! However, the new owners, or rather the mistreated owners, cannot adequately build a new one. The first deputy head of the 307th department of Gazprom and the head of the drilling unit at Gazprom dobycha Noyabrsk at the Chayandinskoye field were fired for numerous technical violations !! Criminal cases will be opened. And the pipe itself? I remember that a host of Asian workers were driven into the laying, there was Babylon! Knowledgeable people from there wrote with alarm posts that all this flimsy structure would collapse. It turns out that the Soviet is collapsing from old age and due to changing climatic conditions, and the new - due to sheer incompetence and is an amazing thing! - lack of a sense of master in ... the owners! So why break the Union? To feed Sechin's insatiable belly and all sorts of potanin?
            I demand that the criminal law be changed so that such gentlemen are responsible for the outrages they create, not only in rubles, but also in prolonged imprisonment. Maybe then they will have a mysterious mastery. And for some reason it seems to me that such laws will be a process of creation and will inspire people very much.
            1. rocket757 9 June 2020 12: 07 New
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              let me disagree with you.
              No problem. This is normal!
              Quote: depressant
              Criticism of what is is not an empty sketch.
              Not empty, but useless already, on topics in which there is already nothing new.
              Quote: depressant
              There is a government to develop strategies and plans.
              They, in fact, who are appointed? They will set up plans in favor of those who appoint them, It was so, it will be so.
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              VO criticism is our only weapon against the outrages
              It is doubtful that this is an effective weapon, and it’s not the only one.
              Quote: depressant
              Here you are in a moderate position
              Critical, but I’m always looking at the balance ... + on - it may not do harm, it’s just useless. Estimates by the FACT of the event, and not as it seems to someone.
              Quote: depressant
              Now back to your proposal to inspire people with the process of creation. Take the same “Power of Siberia” mentioned above
              This is the result of the work of many, many just work. It is also important, but cannot fundamentally change anything, for people, society. Creation, this concept is broader, here and .... in short, a lot of things.
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              I demand to change the criminal law so that
              Our LAW doesn’t allow us to steal, take bribes, and much, much more. Even on it you can organize everything you need and destroy, all that is not necessary! The main thing is who and how performs it, controls the execution!
              Quote: depressant
              Maybe then they will have a mysterious mastery.
              No doubt ... NO! They are already what they are. They even had all the opportunities to prove themselves. The question is, what else do you want from them?
      4. Slavs 9 June 2020 12: 45 New
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        In the meantime, this is an empty sketch.

        I would say a statement of facts ... Not a sketch.
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        a systematic solution to OUR PROBLEMS, it is necessary to approach in a very different way ...

        How ? Or is it an empty sketch?
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          How ? Or is it an empty sketch?

          I'm not a theorist ... I suggest going to the Leningrad Discussion Club. There you can find answers to most questions. You can say the classic, academic zone. I can’t tell, do not explain.
          I showed you the direction, and there myself, myself.
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          I would say a statement of facts ... Not a sketch.

          So I did not contradict the essence of the article, everything is practically there, as there is ... the term "sketch" entered incorrectly, yes, but I already explained what I had in mind. It happens.
          1. depressant 9 June 2020 14: 09 New
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            rocket757, laws! Our laws with an ambiguous meaning, containing a corruption component. In the “white” part, our laws allow us to condemn a person for a minor offense for several years in prison, for the “corruption” part - to release a villain who has stolen billions. This kind of legislation deprives the population, law enforcement agencies, courts, business - small and large - of the comprehensible game rules. And it is no secret that these laws were drawn up by the government and adopted by deputies, who are in many convocations sitting in the Duma, and are lobbied by a little more than a hundred rich people. These people from the government and the Duma are no longer capable of anything else. Is the coronavirus history payout to doctors and the rest of the medical staff not an example? They knew that payments would be considered under a magnifying glass, but they had a reservation: Putin’s wishes have no legal force! It means either to give Putin more authority, which society is afraid of, or to disperse the current Duma and recruit new people into it, and to abolish the sinecure in the form of the Federation Council. This will automatically increase the importance of the Security Council and ... drive out lobbyist Medvedev from there! Society longs for his blood, so let Putin give society a Medvedev head. And let the new Duma only adopt such laws, without which it is generally indispensable. For example, the law on corruption. And I don’t need to say that almost every law has a corresponding reservation - I don’t see it! There is nothing to stamp nonsense that no one performs. But, basically, let the new Duma deal with shoveling old laws, correcting what this one has piled. Otherwise, society will have nothing to breathe, much less develop. ..
            For example, they concealed an oil leak that led to an environmental disaster, which means an aggravating circumstance, an additional several years in prison.
            And where is finally our military journalistic investigation? Those that are ahead of the event, and not braided?
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            Quote: rocket757
            the term "spell" entered incorrectly

            Well then, be careful)) The word is not a sparrow ...)

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            the systemic solution of OUR PROBLEMS must be approached in a very different way ...

            I thought you have a solution ... Criticizing - suggest ...)
            My opinion is state property.
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            I showed you the direction, and there myself, myself.

            )))
            Don’t be angry about what, maybe I misunderstood the message in your first comment.
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              Answers to difficult questions should be sought where they can answer or will be taught to find them yourself. Any transmission link, these are possible / mandatory errors.
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        Moreover, the systematic solution of our problems must be approached in a very different way.

        God forbid - not for the oligarchs, but here’s the very approach to identifying the perpetrators ....

        there was an article here on the VO about the quality of armor steel during the war. And there was a figure that 1943 (!!!!!!!!!) about 50% (!!!!!!) armor steel was marriage belay ....
        That is from half of the products worth doing OUR tanks - and from the second half it would be better to make tanks of the Wehrmacht lol so that OUR it was easier ...
        Not in 1941-43 - in 1943 !!!! 50% of the marriage ....
        According to the logic of the author, apparently the directors of the plant in those the conditions were necessary ... I don’t even know what was needed .... but obviously something terrible ...
        and they were not even shot for such a marriage in wartime .....
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          God forbid - not for the oligarchs, but here’s the very approach to identifying the perpetrators ....

          The approach is different ... sometimes the innocent are punished, and the buns fly to the completely guilty! It happens on garlic!
          Again, since we feel like it, it’s not always the case.
          It is necessary to look at specific examples ...
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          According to the logic of the author - apparently the directors of the plant in those conditions should have ..

          Highly qualified specialists were not punished for nothing, on someone’s whim. Understood and made decisions.
          State basis, this is the legality of decisions, otherwise it is impossible, although .......
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            Quote: your1970
            According to the logic of the author - apparently the directors of the plant in those conditions should have ..

            Highly qualified specialists were not punished for nothing, on someone’s whim. Understood and made decisions.
            State basis, this legality of decisions, otherwise it’s impossible, though .......
            - these directors have driven 50% MARRIAGE in wartime - it was quite possible to shoot - as saboteurs, within the existing criminal law ...
            1. rocket757 10 June 2020 17: 26 New
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              Each specific case was understood and ....
              What can the director do if the ore is not the right one, there is still not enough quality coke and still a bunch of objective reasons that can’t be blocked by anything else.
              When the real sabotage, this is a special case, but with that system of control, personal responsibility, rather objective circumstances, rare cases of criminal activity, but not at a high level, that's for sure.
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                God be with him - with armor ...

                When purchased under a license aircraft engines could not release, with these what? When anti-aircraft guns purchased with all the stuffing - could not release? When all 45mm shells turned out to be defective (the most massive PT caliber)?
                On the eve of war?

                Put it on modernity !!!
                "Armata / PAK / aircraft carrier will not be released because
                Quote: rocket757
                the ore is not the same, quality coke is still lacking and there are still a bunch of objective reasons that can’t be blocked by anything else.
                !!! "- and there will be a wild flurry of yelling at VO:" Everything is gone !!! Plant / shoot / fire from a gun !!!!! Vorye !!! Julie !! "and the like assortment ...

                Some double standards, no? Then it was possible (despite the fact that the war was on-1943 !!!!!) to drive a certain amount of marriage - and now ???
                "They made samples - but they didn’t shoot. The army refused to accept. As a result, it was not possible to bring it to mind!" - if you substitute this sentence 2020 - VO hysteria is provided, and if 1938 - sort of like normal: "The ore is not the same ...."
                1. rocket757 10 June 2020 19: 08 New
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                  I am not posting hysterical information for screeching, but for sane people.
                  Point by point:
                  1. During the war, COOPERATION was violated in so many positions, in raw materials, in app. parts and accessories.
                  2. Factories were urgently evacuated, relocated, repurposed, and so it was, they had to produce products on equipment that was poorly designed for the right purpose.
                  3. Industry suffered serious losses in experienced workers and technical personnel, respectively, the production culture fell to a level above which people simply could not, were not ready to rise ...
                  I can add more points, all objective, because it was.
                  By the way, this is the question of why it was not possible to repeat / copy many devices / equipment that were bought abroad, even with all the documentation !!! I read a documentary review on this topic .... we did not have that production culture, as at the oldest enterprises over the hill, before it had time to “grow up”, did not learn, did not have time.
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                  Put it on modernity !!!

                  And sho, in the last decade before the collapse, everything was fine? NO, there are plenty of jambs left, and then the “funny” 90 years, as it began, so until now for some positions, industries, everything is not so good as it should b.
                  What now .... yes, we need to work, we still need to restore a lot of things, and the restored DEVELOP is not slowed down by any nonsense.
      6. siberalt 10 June 2020 18: 14 New
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        The most stupid and cheap thing is to express your opinion with the statement that everyone knows this, as I do. It’s like at the chairman’s collective farm meeting - I think so, like our party, who is against it? Or Gorbachev’s - this is our opinion and everyone agrees with it, I think no one is against.
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      Regarding Vissarionovich ....
      They didn’t mention it because they start to be afraid - yapping ...
      If the reward finds a hero, then I dare to assume that retaliation will overtake the nth characters.
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      As the old joke says, “It’s worth saying“ You can ”a couple of times, and soon you feel someone’s getting comfortable on your neck! Pa!” And as the classic said, “While the lower classes are obedient, the thieves above are agile! And they feel with impunity!"
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    I will give out the main consideration right away so as not to languish. The global warming is to blame for the incident, the Soviet Union, which built the facility without foreseeing warming after 40 years, and the shop manager.
    fool negative Th not blame the mirror, if the mug is crooked.
    Everything worked fine for the Soviet Union. He has been gone for 30 years. and yet the tanks served properly.
    Devastation in the heads. fool Instead of knowledge and responsibility for the business, there is one loot. Welded metal structures get tired and corrode in aggressive environments; cracks develop in them. Did not know? For their timely detection, monitoring and control systems are used. Yes, this is costly and serious, it’s easier to cut profits.
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            And no one denies.
            Only some dolbaki decided to conduct an experiment on the coast, which was strictly forbidden by the construct itself, but they tried ...
            At the same time, they simply did not think about the degree of terrible consequences: (in the head (even if it fits into it)), it still does not linger because of its immensity.
            What is the point of blaming the dead if this incident needs to be pushed into the heads of the living ...
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              Bashkirkhan, with all due respect, your example of an accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is extremely incorrect. Blocks, including the fourth, were regularly stopped for preventive maintenance and maintenance on a schedule — these are the features of an aggressive radioactive environment. The rules of prophylaxis were strictly observed. The fourth power unit exploded before such a procedure. It is impossible to compare the most complicated technical structure, the process in which it is possible to follow an unpredictable scenario due to reasons that cannot be determined instantly, with the structure, the essence of which is a drain tank, and that it flows is visible to the naked eye and without a protective suit. But oil is also an aggressive environment, and to hope that it is much less destructive than radiation was a crime. There is also a regulation on prevention and repair. The shop manager honked many times, the owners, saving money in their pocket, ignored him. The state did not save money on the prevention of power units. Therefore, your example is the defamation of discussion participants.
              1. Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 13: 16 New
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                The fourth power unit exploded before such a procedure.

                Here was a series of articles about the Chernobyl accident. Chernobyl notebook.
                https://topwar.ru/113508-chernobylskaya-tetrad-chast-1.html
          2. Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 09: 37 New
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            Efremov drank up to the jail. The driver he crashed into drunk died.
      2. CT-55_11-9009 9 June 2020 11: 35 New
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        It was. And deviation from test plans, and neglect of safety rules, and flaws in construction due to the rush to deliver on time, and silence of both the disaster and its magnitude. Only then responsibility was borne not by switchmen, but by the culprits. The chief engineer of the station, for example. He ordered to turn off the security system.
        1. MelkorAintGood 9 June 2020 22: 58 New
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          No need to talk nonsense. The Chernobyl nuclear power plant exploded, and it was an explosion, due to the criminal characteristics of the reactor, when the STOP button accelerates the reactor. And no protection was turned off, everything was according to the regulations (AT THIS TIME).
          Once again: the rods were launched - self-acceleration and explosion occurred. Who is to blame? Academician Alexandrov, who knew about the flaw? Maybe he?
          1. Vadim237 10 June 2020 17: 06 New
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            In general, everything, starting from the institute that RBMK developed the one who accepted it and approved as the development, the authorities of the nuclear power plant that allowed the experiment to be carried out to check the turbine unit and ending directly with the participants in the experiment.
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    3. AU Ivanov. 9 June 2020 08: 24 New
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      Yeah, fine. Chubais also blew up the Chernobyl nuclear power plant? And Rotenberg is probably to blame for breaking the dam in Kiev. Kyshtym, Arzamas, everything was really normal in the USSR.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Yeah, fine. Chubais also blew up the Chernobyl nuclear power plant?

        They blew up the same "effective" under the guise of cost accounting.
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          Unfortunately, they were also effective at other sites in Soviet times.
    4. Andrey Krasnoyarsky 9 June 2020 08: 48 New
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      Not everything and not always worked fine in the USSR. And there were disasters, and accidents and people died. Only in the media about these incidents is silence, because there is nothing to disturb Soviet citizens with bad news. So many people got the impression that in the Union there was an earthly paradise, and now hell is total. But still, the author of the article outlined a serious problem. If in the USSR everyone involved, including ministers, was attracted for a serious accident, then why are they now only “switchmen”. Should the shop manager at his own expense organize the security system, and not the owners of the enterprise? That is the question.
    5. Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 08: 53 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      In mediums, cracks develop in them. Did not know? For their timely detection, monitoring and control systems are used. Yes, this is costly and serious, it’s easier to cut profits.


      All this reminded me of the Alien 3 epilogue:
      "Fiorina 161 is closed. The remaining equipment is sold for scrap."
  • Far B 9 June 2020 05: 47 New
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    Well, if Putin calmly puts on the constitution, which he, like, is the guarantor, and does not bear any responsibility for it, then why should the Potanins and Deripaska be responsible for something? She, too, is not the last man. With money, with yachts, with a position in this, like him, in worship. In no way can such respected people be fingernail. This is not a concept. Who will render them after such respect? Hands off Potanins and Deripaska! Today it is our everything.
    In short, something I felt straight about. I’ll go, valerian, adit, I’ll accept. Exactly 57 drops.
    1. Lexus 9 June 2020 09: 13 New
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      Well, if Putin calmly puts on the constitution

      Yes, "sovereign fish" is now not the same. And the people, for some reason, everything goes to her to bow.
      1. depressant 9 June 2020 12: 14 New
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        Lexus, a little before a heart attack did not laugh!
        wassat love
        1. Lexus 9 June 2020 12: 49 New
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          Lyudmila Yakovlevna, hello! love
          The most ridiculous attempts of today's unthinkable things, and, accordingly, the “breakthroughs”, not where they were planned, cause nothing but a homeric laughter.repeat
          1. depressant 9 June 2020 14: 38 New
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            Hello Lexus! love
            And I have their ridiculous (I’ll clarify: worthless) attempts to cause sharp rejection and angry sarcasm. 20 years ago, these people quickly learned some rules of governing the state and the economy, claiming that we are part of the world system and must live by its rules, but without noticing that both external and internal circumstances are changing. Not wishing to accept the fact that the true ability to lead the state and the economy consists in the flexibility of thinking, the ability to change ourselves after time and thereby make adequate decisions. Hence the ridiculous and strange decisions on oil and on the constitution, driving us into the past.
            So it turns out that their inertness is our everything. Education is being killed so that a dizzy smart population could not appreciate their stupidity and backwardness, medicine is being killed, so that those who are still able to think critically on the remnants of Soviet education quickly die out. They remake us for themselves, and not themselves for new times. Canning the era of oligarchy. Here is such stagnation, openly cynical.
            1. Lexus 9 June 2020 14: 55 New
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              I completely agree with you. You only do not respond to the character below, please. He is offended by everyone and everyone. It is so customary in their gang to cluck out of the gateway and then wonder why I don’t see men in their corner.
              As is known

              To deep thought you need to grow (C)

              but it is not given to everyone.
        2. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 14: 15 New
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          I didn’t laugh until my heart attack!

          And it would have been (s).
          1. depressant 9 June 2020 16: 13 New
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            Golovan Jack, why don’t you love me like that?)) I am always on the side of programmers! Well, do not grumble))
            1. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 16: 18 New
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              Quote: depressant
              Golovan Jack, why don’t you love me so much?

              Personally, I am completely indifferent to you. However, some of your phrases cause me a reaction that is close to emetic.

              As for the phrase you quoted - it was a banter banter, do not focus. Live happily ever after, flood yourself in moderation ... I repeat - you personally are indifferent to me.
    2. hydrox 9 June 2020 10: 09 New
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      Quote: Far In
      why Potanins and Deripaska should be responsible for something

      So they do not answer, because our being and theirs are divided Hell.
      This Hell virtual, but there is nothing stronger than this feature of integrity and jurisdiction (therefore, it rusts and manages GOSconcern and no one can either fire him or hold him accountable). Because in his hypostasis, he, that Potanin, that Deripaska or Abramovich are the most influential members of the conglomerate named "oligarchy - Russian division" and the authorities have a collective security agreement with this conglomerate, and the population has the authority of such a collective agreement on trust no
      1. depressant 9 June 2020 13: 11 New
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        And I presented such a picture. Potanin is taken by the scruff (there is enough material for the case). Well, or any of the same. All the "same" understand that without Putin's instructions this could not have happened. And since everyone knows that Putin and him, “everyone”, have a little material, then everyone will sharply fuss. Personal liners immediately fly up, laying their wings in the western direction, crammed with official and bank small trains, jam traffic jams, creak and the vertical will begin to collapse, and stocks of “national treasures” that have fallen to almost zero will go cheap on world exchanges. And Putin will stumble here - there’s no vertical, there’s nothing to lean on, and, looking around, he will see homeless people, pensioners and middle-class workers with a salary of 17 thousand rubles coming out from under the rubble of the vertical .
        M-yes ... Not a support. We are not vertical.
        Because Potanin lived, is alive and will be.
        1. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 14: 18 New
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          Once

          Quote: depressant
          stocks of "national treasures" that have fallen to almost zero will go cheap for packages on world exchanges

          - your modest pension will be reset to zero, water will stop flowing from the tap, and rolls will stop growing in the store.

          Is this exactly what you are missing in this life? wink
          1. depressant 9 June 2020 16: 29 New
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            Golovan Jack, are you a seer? )) No further, as a couple of hours ago, hot water was really turned off for 4 days under the pretext of some kind of breakdown. According to the regulations, it is required to be turned off for two weeks, and indeed it will be turned off in due time - in accordance with the regional schedule. And these four days, consider a week, either savings or theft of funds for heating. And so every year: four days plus two weeks. Well, at least not for a month, as it was once. Consider an achievement? But I pay for hot water on the counter. Meanwhile, hellish heat. And then you want me to die. I'll go smoke, cry, wipe away the tears))
            1. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 16: 54 New
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              Quote: depressant
              And then you wish me death

              In no way.

              Quote: depressant
              And these four days, consider a week, - either savings, or theft of funds for heating

              This will be taken into account in a monthly payment. For me, for example - it is taken into account.

              But the point was not for: as soon as what you so joyfully described there begins — they will stop paying your pension (because there will be nowhere), hot water and rolls will end for the same reason. Everything is simple - there is no money at the entrance (you joyfully sold Gazprom-Rosneft, etc.) - there is no product at the exit. The law of two pipes in action request
              1. depressant 9 June 2020 18: 01 New
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                Golovan Jack, well, be objective! )) Where am I and where is Gazprom. I will not sell it, just as I did not sell Rusal.
                1. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 19: 36 New
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                  Quote: depressant
                  I did not sell Rusal

                  But this is one of those “feeds” of yours that causes me a sharp rejection.

                  A person who even knows a little about the subject knows that Rusal was not "sold" by anyone.

                  Okay. Sorry, if something is wrong, thanks for communicating. I'm tired, I'm a fly fly (s) laughing
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                    Golovan Jack, yes, everything is fine! )) Have a good rest! After all, tomorrow is another hot working day love
  • codetalker 9 June 2020 05: 58 New
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    Surprisingly, a decent article.
    1. Aviator_ 9 June 2020 08: 52 New
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      Indeed, surprisingly, the material is sharp. I didn’t expect it.
  • viktor_ui 9 June 2020 05: 59 New
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    At us, at Themis ... not a face, but a muzzle covering a class of feudal lords-aligarchofreglov and sipped them. Normal people will sit at their dealings. Ugliness of a state scale. They robbed the USSR and still on it and blame their squalor.
    1. Reptiloid 9 June 2020 06: 23 New
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      Quote: viktor_ui
      ...... They robbed the USSR and still on it and blame their squalor.
      Did the USSR blame that under RI that everything was wrong? According to relatives and according to Soviet books ---- no. The USSR was directed to the future. They talked, thought about the future. And they did not look for the guilty in the past.
    2. Uncle lee 9 June 2020 07: 39 New
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      Everything is classic!
      1. Lexus 9 June 2020 09: 34 New
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        Everything is classic!

        Everything has even become much simpler. Two described parasitic "grimaces" of capitalism have already merged into one conditional, immense face. A rogue official, a rogue businessman, a rogue preacher, a rogue judge, a rogue athlete and others. Of course, it is extremely difficult to find the poor among them.
    3. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 08: 01 New
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      Quote: viktor_ui
      Normal people will sit at their dealings. Ugliness of a state scale.

      This is how the “animal face” of capitalism manifests itself, but in the 90s we did not believe this.
      1. Keyser soze 9 June 2020 08: 54 New
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        This is how the "animal face" of capitalism manifests itself ....


        Capitalism is capitalism, but you rolled back into its feudal variety, and it is not very pleasant. Soon the king will be with you, new boyars will sparkle with medals .... wait for the 1861st and that’s it ....
        1. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 09: 41 New
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          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Capitalism by capitalism, but you rolled back into its feudal form

          Well, feudalism has ended, but capitalism has begun, and it is in Russia at the stage of American capitalism at the beginning of the 19th century. But there will be no kings and boyars, the capitalists themselves will not give, but they need a convenient leader, on whom they can blame everything, and make their own dirty games themselves. Leader at any time can be replaced by the pleasing. Yes, and you also, or say no? Yes, others have the same thing. If you do not believe, look at the United States.
          1. Keyser soze 9 June 2020 11: 41 New
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            Yes, and you also, or say no? Yes, others have the same thing. If you do not believe, look at the United States.


            Vlad, of course you understand that it’s easy to say - “but in the USA they beat blacks ....”, but this is only consolation.
            Yes, we also have an oligarchy, but the difference is 1. It is changeable and often goes to the bunk. 2. We are replacing the government and management of the country. This is after all the evolutionary process. 3. We are kept by EU laws, which the oligarchy does not like, but they are there, as is the European prosecutor, who can send everyone to turn large stones into small stones. And in the next election, our government, which both ... presented itself poorly in a crisis with a virus and stole money, will notably go away into oblivion and may be on the bunk, let's see.

            I give an elementary example of EU legislation - I was stolen 600 euros from a bank card. The bank returned them to me without a hitch, because EU laws adopted by Bulgaria are imperative and it must do so.

            Example two - my colleague in Berlin, who is engaged in digital advertising, has a net salary of 5400 euros. So capitalism in Germany and Bulgaria is slightly different. Ohhhh very different ... but for UTB I should blame not capitalism but my own people, who, due to the Balkan mentality, chose thieves and dumbasses to be ruled. That's all...

            PS And our Bulgarian Premier is truly a unique Neanderthal and stupid people. Moreover, the patient Dunning Krueger, on his head. I look forward to his arrival at the European prosecutor's office after the election.

            Have a nice day :) I’m going to work further on the path of advertising and effective management ... ahah ... drinks
            1. depressant 9 June 2020 15: 12 New
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              And we have not ratified the UN Declaration on Corruption of 2006, which allows the Duma to create such laws that your drawbar. Where he turned, it happened. I believe and will continue to believe that the true background of the amendment to the Constitution on the priority of Russian laws over international ones is a way for our corrupt officials to evade responsibility before the people of Russia, the responsibility imposed by this Declaration.
  • Van 16 9 June 2020 06: 28 New
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    Everything is correct in the article.
    In general, the higher the position and the greater the condition, the less responsibility. The Kingdom of Curved Mirrors is somehow.
    1. Shuttle 9 June 2020 08: 10 New
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      Quote: Van 16
      Everything is correct in the article.
      In general, the higher the position and the greater the condition, the less responsibility. The Kingdom of Curved Mirrors is somehow.

      Unfortunately, this is not only with us. This is always so under the rule of the capitalists.
  • Ryaruav 9 June 2020 06: 35 New
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    Putin and co rule, bring the country to the handle, saw the branch on which the diplomas sit
    1. Gardamir 9 June 2020 07: 02 New
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      You think? Misha spotted is well settled.
      1. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 08: 05 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        You think? Misha spotted is well settled.

        It has its own fund, organized by the West, and the Triple Alliance does not forget it, well, at least of all visitors to the site, no one is better and richer than Misha the labeled one.
    2. Greenwood 9 June 2020 07: 51 New
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      This is called "stability." Now they like to mention about it in advertising voting for amendments to the Constitution.
    3. Shuttle 9 June 2020 08: 15 New
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      Quote: Ryaruav
      Putin and co rule, bring the country to the handle, saw the branch on which the diplomas sit

      Not Putin, but the power of capital. Do you think if instead of Putin there would be some Khodarkovsky, Navalny, Gozman or, excuse me, Dud, it would be different? Unfortunately no. It is not a matter of persons, but irreconcilable contradictions of the interests of the owners of the means of production and the people who work for them.
  • rocket757 9 June 2020 06: 51 New
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    Okay, scoffed, it’s not clear who .... what next ???
    Chatter about anything ... to retell what everyone already knows about!
  • nemez 9 June 2020 06: 59 New
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    So people begin to quietly buzet. If it weren’t for quarantine that had turned out well, there would have been protests.
    1. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 08: 07 New
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      Quote: nemez
      If it weren’t for quarantine, it would be protests.

      Yes, again questions and questions, "quarantine" was successfully turned up, or "built on time."
    2. Shuttle 9 June 2020 08: 18 New
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      Quote: nemez
      So people begin to quietly buzet. If it weren’t for quarantine that had turned out well, there would have been protests.

      Buzet is not necessary. Need to study. Learn, study and study.
  • Gardamir 9 June 2020 07: 00 New
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    On this occasion, I want to congratulate everyone on the holiday. June 12, Day of Russia, for Potanin, for Abramovich, Deripaska, Chubais, Serdyukov, Ksyusha. And many others who received many tasty buns from the Union. For them, this holiday. And keep a social distance, Potanin is far away.
    1. Deniska999 9 June 2020 07: 06 New
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      Ok, today is only the 9th. A drop of patience and congratulations.
      1. Gardamir 9 June 2020 07: 13 New
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        You are hinting at the sign that if you congratulate in advance, many will not live up to the date. I'm going to rewrite the list in the direction of increasing characters.
    2. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 08: 12 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      June 12, Day of Russia, for Potanin, for Abramovich, Deripaska, Chubais, Serdyukov, Ksyusha.

      Well, this does not concern Abramovich, since already in 2018 he is an Israeli citizen and an Israeli billionaire, the other day he bought the richest house in Israel. But Serdyukov will not be given their citizenship.
  • Dimy4 9 June 2020 07: 03 New
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    The owners of factories, mines, enterprises - they are illegal.

    Above the law, it will be more accurate. So it’s convenient to trample the law and those who are forced to live under these laws.
  • Doctor 9 June 2020 07: 15 New
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    It will only get worse. The oligarchs are not properly invested in maintaining the technological level, especially with regard to security.
    I have long read the forecast of an avalanche-like increase in technological accidents since 2023, if nothing changes.
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      Quote: Arzt
      a forecast of an avalanche-like increase in technological accidents since 2023, if nothing changes.

      Are you hinting at the USA? repeat
      1. Doctor 9 June 2020 07: 26 New
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        Are you hinting at the USA?

        No, the article was a group of our specialists.
        The point is that the safety factor in the USSR (before overhaul) ranged from 30 to 50 years, depending on the type of production.
      2. parusnik 9 June 2020 08: 02 New
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        Are you hinting at the USA?
        ... in the world, a colleague ... in the world ...
    2. rocket757 9 June 2020 07: 27 New
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      Quote: Arzt
      I have long read the forecast of an avalanche-like increase in technological accidents since 2023, if nothing changes.

      Question - How can something change, for the better, if, in principle, nothing fundamentally changes in the SYSTEM .... the same predatory attitude towards the territory in which they are used to taking!
      And the people ... everything hid in the cracks and we get out only toga, when something completely vigorous was splashed into our cracks! We ourselves chose it or did not choose it, as many now strive to prove ... pf-e, to think, to act, it was necessary to start much earlier.
      1. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 08: 15 New
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        Quote: rocket757
        pf-e, to think, to act, it was necessary to start much earlier.

        There were no "leaders" then, but some "talkers".
        1. rocket757 9 June 2020 08: 46 New
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          There were no "leaders" then, but some "talkers".

          Now the confusion is no less! By the way, the authorities have at least something in the asset, although their liabilities are such, it wouldn’t overwhelm us all and thoroughly!
          There are almost academic associations, with quite understandable goals, but not with very big opportunities and expansion, without joining large masses of working people to them, it’s simply not possible ... by the way, because their possibilities are limited, few people are ready \ want them join .... vicious circle! The people believe very few people and do not want to take a decisive step, CHOICE!
          and we’ll be sitting in the cracks, with our little world, a finger, maybe it’ll carry it ???
          1. tihonmarine 9 June 2020 09: 27 New
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            Now the confusion is no less!

            You listen to Zyuganov and Zhirinovsky, so they sneak from time to time, you already want to go to the toilet. Others are not even heard, as if dumb, although it happens from around the corner they bark, Mahakakda and the like.
            1. rocket757 9 June 2020 09: 58 New
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              These are generally not worth touching, there is nothing but blah blah.
              There are several centers of education that are worth listening to, but ... many are repelled by the fact that they are all from the Soviet past, and they also have academic roots ...
              although their position is precisely defined and understandable, it was too painful to run into everything serious about the Soviet Union, precisely because their ideas, for the current government, are dangerous specifically, clearly.
      2. parusnik 9 June 2020 08: 40 New
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        [B]
        We ourselves have chosen or not chosen, as many now strive to prove ... [
        /bapter....I don’t want to prove anything, there was a candidate against everyone, I voted for him ... Then, they killed my candidate and many approved it ... And they don’t want to remember him, even in the updated constitution. .. Since then, I do not go to the polls, to honor his memory ... smile
        1. rocket757 9 June 2020 08: 54 New
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          I don’t want to prove anything, there was a candidate against everyone, I voted for him ..

          Do not appropriate your MY favorite candidate!
          Although, he is so vast, uncertain, he was enough for everyone!
          Quote: parusnik
          Since then, I do not go to the polls, I honor his memory.

          I don’t want to ... but then someone else will vote for me, since I DO NOT NEED! No, the option is not acceptable ... especially, to the polling station 150 meters so! and the chairman of the commission lives next door ... a sincere person, as you refuse him.
          Okay, jokes as jokes, but we don’t have any choice ... so even though you can speak out against everyone, albeit not officially, let them not be counted, but to ruin the percentage of those I don’t like, holy thing!
          1. parusnik 9 June 2020 10: 42 New
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            but then someone else will vote for me, since I DO NOT NEED!
            ... I explain ... the votes of those parties that did not score 5% are then distributed among those parties that have passed the 5% barrier ... So are the candidates ...
            1. rocket757 9 June 2020 10: 58 New
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              It has long been understood that without creating something of your own, you will feed someone else's uncle.
              1. parusnik 9 June 2020 16: 21 New
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                And we feed him already ... laughing
                1. rocket757 9 June 2020 18: 28 New
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                  It’s absurd to feed someone who sits on your neck and hangs your legs ... It is necessary to create other options for relationships.
            2. AK1972 9 June 2020 16: 54 New
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              I explain ... the votes of those parties that did not score 5% are then distributed among those parties that have passed the 5% barrier ... So are the candidates ...

              You are only partially right. They are also distributed in percentage terms. As a result, the winning party receives the lion's share of these votes, I hope you understand which one.
              1. rocket757 9 June 2020 18: 29 New
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                It is necessary that "idyll" .... to correct. In our common interests!
  • Vitaly Tsymbal 9 June 2020 07: 19 New
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    The author is right !!! In the country of bureaucratic oligarchy, there are no guilty ... there are “successful managers” from the circle, as they say - “you know whom” and “switchmen” who are punished “you know what for everything” ... I still wonder why not arrested, the cleaner of the airport through which a pandemic crawled into our country. I hope that this woman "with a low viral responsibility" will be found "you know by whom" and she will not pass punishment "you know who or what" !!!
    But nothing, here we will vote for amendments to the Constitution and immediately the Russian people will be happy under the leadership of the resetting “you know whom” and how people will remember the ancient epics as “everything”, you yourself know when and where, it was wrong and bad until GREAT RESET! !! And there is also a “wise authoritative head” that will propose changing the chronology, let’s say since 2000 to write in history textbooks - not our era, but the era BEFORE GREAT ZERO and the era of GREAT ZERO.
    Do not believe ??? But in vain ... "Nullified" the retirement date - nullified ... "Nullified" the responsibility of successful managers for the plunder created by all the people in the USSR - nullified ... I'm afraid that only the profits and nest egg earned by overwork are not nullified "you know whom "...
    1. Uncle lee 9 June 2020 07: 48 New
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      ERA OF GREAT ZERO.

      Cursing: I spent the pay - zeroing ...
      I drank 0,5 l - I reset the bottle ...
      I repaid the debt - I canceled the loan ...
      The wife found a stash - zeroing srateg. stock
      I went to the toilet - zeroing the womb .... Sorry! hi
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal 9 June 2020 12: 33 New
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        I mess up; whoever hurts, then says something about drinks
  • Doccor18 9 June 2020 07: 28 New
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    The article is like a cry from the soul. What's the point? ...
    “It's a shame for the state,” said one hero.
    Was at PAZ (Pavlovsky Bus Plant) in 2000. It was like in 1941, after the German bombardment. Devastation, dull workers roam. I went to the MSC of the enterprise, one nurse of retirement age sits there, and the doctor is her peer. Everywhere you feel discouraged. But in Soviet times, this plant worked in three shifts! Which of the citizens did not remember the little-eyed PAZ running along all the paths of the huge USSR?
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      But in Soviet times, this plant worked in three shifts! Which of the citizens did not remember the little-eyed PAZ running along all the paths of the huge USSR?

      We all remember the “groove”, and the thousands of factories working in 3 shifts, and the country that they themselves gave into the hands of the Potannins and Abramovichs.
      1. Gardamir 9 June 2020 09: 02 New
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        I don’t agree about myself, although I also recently considered it. But...
        Remember how an honest girl is courted. Flowers, and a promise to get married. And as I got my way, I immediately forgot about promises.
        They also promised a lot of things, the rights of freedom. But in fact, if you want a demonstration, get permission. No one spoke about raising the retirement age. True, the owners will come, and the Gauleiters will come.
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          And as I got my way, I immediately forgot about promises.

          Well, we are like that innocent girl, we were watched and abandoned.
      2. Vitaly Tsymbal 9 June 2020 12: 57 New
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        I, I confess, also believed that AMERICAN jeans and chewing gum are a symbol of FREEDOM !!! fellow JOKING ... I had jeans and chewing gum (Afghan and East Germany), but I wanted a revolution)))
    2. AU Ivanov. 9 June 2020 10: 59 New
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      PAZiki and now in full growth release.
  • Greenwood 9 June 2020 07: 49 New
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    Naturally, nobody will touch Potanin. All these oligarchic and closely related bureaucratic clans guarded by the Russian Guard are what Putin’s vertical of power rests on. While this vertical is strong, all these lackeys will continue to grab, grab and grab again, taking the loot abroad. I can’t imagine how much more this vicious system will function in Russia.
  • Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 07: 53 New
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    From the time of these, it so happened in Russia, the “switchman” always answered. The author sympathizes with the detainee, saying that he’s not to blame .. but what did he see doing nothing, simply could have covered himself with pieces of paper at least as always, but this isn’t possible. Thank God that Potanin will pay out of his pocket, of course, that 10 yards for him rubles .. but nonetheless. Again, the author gently wrote so, they say they handed out property, and there is a clear surname led by Yeltsin who arranged this ... but Roman has blamed Putin recently for everything ... don't slip , please, to the level of jellyfish and other similar channels and sites
    1. Pilot 9 June 2020 08: 29 New
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      Thank God that Potanin would pay out of his pocket, of course, that for him 10 yards of rubles ... but nonetheless.
      The guarantor will not abandon his own in trouble, he will find something to compensate for the loss of potanin. Too big a catastrophe, so that it was possible upstairs, not to notice, and financially, the silence, to keep silent, and even before the voting,
    2. parusnik 9 June 2020 08: 33 New
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      Andrei, I understand you correctly: Yeltsin handed out everything, but Putin takes away the handed out? ... smile
      1. Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 08: 46 New
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        Where did you read this in my comment? One doesn’t give it away, the other doesn’t give it away. It’s just that every accident, catastrophe has a specific surname, name, middle name, and the easiest way to say is to blame the USSR, Yeltsin or Putin, and that's all .. one handed out, others draw out all the juices, the third one does not pay attention to it, the fourth ones have bolted everything on the spot. here and the domino effect. here and on ... interesting. just maybe someone knows who they put in for the tragedy in Bhopal in India ? first. what came to mind from such major technological disasters
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          But there is a clear surname led by Yeltsin, who arranged this ... but, recently, Roman has blamed Putin for everything
          ... I didn’t read it, I made a conclusion from this phrase .. Maybe I didn’t understand correctly ...
      2. Andrey VOV 9 June 2020 08: 52 New
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        Although ... stop, he took away the assets of Yukos and Sibneft and gave it to Rosneft, how he gave it, they all carried out according to the law, as at one time mortgage auctions)))) well, you understand ..
  • Tiglathpalasar 9 June 2020 07: 56 New
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    Correctly written! But the correctness of words does not make it easier. From the whole of today's situation, the wolf asks the wolf to howl from hopelessness. Is everything really rolling in tartarara ?!
    1. NordUral 9 June 2020 09: 49 New
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      From the whole of today's situation, the wolf asks the wolf to howl from hopelessness.

      Do not howl, but think and act. The whole people go to the polls and vote correctly.
      1. apro 9 June 2020 10: 15 New
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        The whole people go to the polls and vote correctly.

        If anything depended on our vote, they wouldn’t let us into the elections ...
        Only armed with theory. Having organized something you can change ...
        1. NordUral 9 June 2020 10: 19 New
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          How it depends! Therefore, such calls not to go, they say it’s still useless. But you have to go. And to control. But for this you need to organize for each election. But so far things are bad with this, confusion in the ranks of the opposition.
          1. apro 9 June 2020 10: 20 New
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            How it depends!

            That is, to ride one parasite .. what would plant another?
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              Why put a parasite? Under the Union, many leaders worked for the Idea. I believe that now there are many such. The main thing is to cleanse the country of these.
  • Free wind 9 June 2020 07: 57 New
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    We do not know and will not know much. So the tanks of the PBC 20000, very reliable, service life without maintenance for at least 30 years, earthquake resistance of up to 9 points. what happened to this tank. With such a scale of leaking fuel, the hole there should be meter per meter. How not to notice that. Leakage usually begins with a small leak. There are a bunch of sensors there, in case of "unauthorized selection" of theft, they write that a couple of liters can be hooked. Around the store, catchers should be equipped. MES inspections are carried out, the State Technical Inspectorate carries out inspections, and with instruments that determine the presence of corrosion and cracks. In the event of a leak, pumping to standby tanks should be initiated. Etc. An interesting reaction is not going to tell anyone, on the statement of Potanin, that the capacity is “well, there are a couple of billion,” “oh well, probably less, hee hee, well, give us the data.” Yes, as an aircraft carrier. this barrel is worth, which is already shy as a girl. Of course, the fish will feel bad, many species feed on the surface, taimen, grayling, whitefish, tugunok. and prefer shallow water and coastal waters. Pike only spawned.
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      Quote: Free Wind
      there the hole should be meter per meter.

      A long crack is likely.
      Quote: Free Wind
      Leak usually begins with a small leak

      Generally not. A crack develops immediately, once the metal has lost its strength, then it breaks as much as it can. This is not a stone wall, the stored liquid will not break the crack)
      Quote: Free Wind
      There are a bunch of sensors there, in case of "unauthorized selection" of theft

      About a couple of liters of nonsense. The sensors measure the level, and the size of the mirror at the tank is simply monstrous. And what will you do when you learn about the leak? What to do with a solarium? It’s really there, the sea, it takes a week to pump out the tank, and where to pump?
      Quote: Free Wind
      Catchers should be equipped around the store.

      Which have the appearance of an earth embankment a meter high.
      Quote: Free Wind
      MES inspections are carried out, the State Technical Inspectorate carries out inspections, and with instruments that determine the presence of corrosion and cracks.

      Corrosion is already visible. You can determine its thickness by poking a spot with a device. But the bottom bursts, and in principle there is no access to it. And to determine the future crack - there are no such devices.
      In the event of a leak, transfer to standby tanks should be initiated.
      Keep EMPTY containers in the size of the main ?! Are you kidding me? Here we have capitalism ...
      The tank should be emptied after the expiration of the standard operation, washed, and a real check was made. There are methods, but you have to climb inside the tank for about a week somewhere, cut pieces of the bottom, measure different things there ... A bunch of money.
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        have the appearance of an earth embankment a meter high.

        ,,, maybe the embankment did not match?
        4.2. The height of the guard must be at least 0,2 m. above the estimated volume of spilled liquid, but not less:

        - 1 m - for tanks with a nominal volume of up to 10000 mGOST R 53324-2009 Fencing of tanks. Fire safety requirements;

        - 1,5 m - for tanks with a nominal volume of 10000 m. GOST R 53324-2009 Tank guards. Fire safety requirements and more.
        1. Mikhail3 9 June 2020 09: 37 New
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          It didn’t exactly match. It never matches, because it is washed away by rain, snow, and it does not pass the fluid pressure test. Given the volume of the tank, it was obviously simply washed away by a stream. First, a hole was washed under the tank, then the stream tore a piece of the embankment.
          Technical supervision should monitor the embankment every year. No one, after the collapse of the USSR, does this anywhere. In addition, the earth will not restrain the solarium. It will just give several hours, then it will soak and melt, almost like sugar in tea.
  • parusnik 9 June 2020 08: 00 New
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    Few people know that, for example, in 2007, the Sea of ​​Azov was saved from an environmental disaster. Sea. Barge, 40 tons of diesel fuel. To the eyeballs. Coming from Kazan. Destination point is the port of Kavkaz. Sea, excitement 4 points. The barge began to sink. Help arrived. They were stranded. They were pumped out. Why the barge began to sink. It did not meet the requirements of the Register. It was just full of holes. Like Zhvanetsky: I’m your steppe .. I’m your barge .... It turned out like this ... This was not written anywhere and wasn’t reported. As it happened, the holiday season and the remains of the fish in the Sea of ​​Azov were saved. In Norilsk And so on the country. The meaning of capitalism, the maximum profit at the lowest cost, profit in your pocket. Someone said about socialism that with dirty water from a trough, a child was thrown out .....
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      Someone said about socialism that with dirty water from a trough, a child was thrown out .....

      It was this dirt that splashed him out, and we were silent. What we are doing so far.
  • Shuttle 9 June 2020 08: 05 New
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    Privatization of profits and nationalization of losses is a classic of the capitalist state.
  • New Year day 9 June 2020 08: 28 New
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    But if you have at hand a shop manager who can be detained and imprisoned, then, in general, you can

    the fish rots from the head, but they clean it from the tail request
    1. NordUral 9 June 2020 09: 44 New
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      If we are like rams, Sylvester, then that is the only way.
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        If we are like rams, Sylvester, then that is the only way.

        Alas! request
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      In Russia, fish rots from the head and tail at the same time.
  • Russian jacket 9 June 2020 08: 57 New
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    Nothing will change until there is criminal liability for tops and directors. And their responsibility in this system and relations is from the realm of utopia.
    1. NordUral 9 June 2020 09: 42 New
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      Nothing will change until there is criminal liability for tops and directors.
      In the first place - the owners should be.
      In general, it's time to tie up with such owners. And then they will transfer everything to the West (although here everything is very complicated) - then what to do - to fight with the West in order to return it to the people. The process has already begun.
  • Mikhail3 9 June 2020 09: 09 New
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    Well, it’s not stated in any law that the owner is obliged to make repairs.
    Yes, it’s generally registered! More precisely - it was prescribed. What I don’t know now ... Every technical building has a standard term of operation. It is for reasons of rust, metal fatigue and accumulated changes in the relief. At the end of this period, a commission should be created that decides whether it is possible to extend the service life or whether it is time to destroy the building and build a new one. And already the commission is responsible if the tank burst during the extended period.
    Under this business, there is an economic component - depreciation rates for the main equipment, which are laid down in the price of the manufactured goods, and many more are designed so that there are no accidents. But no one is observing all of this right now.
  • bubalik 9 June 2020 09: 18 New
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    I would like to note that bloggers and regional activists who have sounded the alarm turn out to be speakers of information “upstairs”. Their numerous posts on social networks are more effective than the actions of regional officials.
    1. agond 9 June 2020 09: 28 New
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      Kerosene is not oil, it is better kept on the water, it had to be set on fire right away and it was almost completely burnt out, so reduce pollution, and waiting for it to go to sea would be a new crime
  • Million 9 June 2020 09: 35 New
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    A common thing for the current government.
    Yesterday, Mishka Evremov killed a person in an accident, and nothing will happen to him. They released him on a subscription ....
    Not the first case with artists ...
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      The article was already retrained for a more serious one, immediately after the person died in the hospital ... In general, he was drunk as a pig. He will get what he deserves.
  • NordUral 9 June 2020 09: 39 New
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    Upstairs is a gang of thieves and traitors. And it’s time to realize it all.
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 09: 43 New
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    hmmm ... only it seems to me that the author is looking for another hype to dance on the corpses and PR in a disaster? Only with the corpses no luck, well, at least something will be promoted ...

    “So, on the ruins of the Soviet Union, an oligarchic and bureaucratic state of switchmen emerged. Of course, with full approval ... No, not the people.”
    And we, those who voted for GDP, the majority of the people turn out to be for him not the people? And who are we? And who is he refusing us the right to choose our own destiny?

    "And that means there will still be blood. Our blood. Not the owner's. To our masters, alas, we will pay in full."
    Feel how much joyful anticipation here? I remembered an old film about the ghouls ....
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 10: 12 New
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    And the person who wrote the VICTORY is the author of the article, a priori cannot sympathize with the USSR, it is not him, it just uses modern technology to build society when they parasitize on good feelings for the USSR ....
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  • Kvazi 9 June 2020 10: 18 New
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    I read ... Now I understand 1937 and the approval of the workers to execute such rubbers .. about myself 37 years as an electrician in Norilsk
    1. Mordvin 3 9 June 2020 13: 59 New
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      I understand 1937 and the approval of the workers to execute such rubbers

      Who are you talking about?
      Quote: Kvazi
      37 years old as an electrician in Norilsk

      And how are you, all the way?
  • Alexfly 9 June 2020 10: 22 New
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    You, the author, are most likely absolutely right. And the reason for this is irresponsibility ...
  • Name Surname 9 June 2020 10: 32 New
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    In addition to Chubais, who authorized its operation, the Soviet authorities were also to blame for the accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station, which decided to set another record, and built it without reinforcement, only concrete. Now we are waiting for this time bomb to crash and wash everything off to Krasnoyarsk
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      building it without reinforcement, only concrete. Now we are waiting for this time bomb to crash and wash everything off to Krasnoyarsk

      Secure the mine. Deliver with fittings. Weak or what?
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        Raise Mordovia. Weak or what?
    2. VladimirGore 9 June 2020 11: 42 New
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      According to this logic, the most successful blacks, they had no accidents at nuclear power plants, hydroelectric power stations, rockets did not fall.
      Give the country bananas! and safe and tasty! Descendants will not blame you for failures! our modern slogan is right, otherwise they will smear shit for 100 years.
      1. Name Surname 9 June 2020 17: 57 New
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        You’d better read about the history of the construction of the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station, and how many years it was not taken into operation, how the French patched a tearing-off dam, why it was placed TAK below the Mainskaya hydroelectric power station, and how it really should have been done, and how it would have saved from accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya.
        A flogging pseudo-potriotic delirium does not need a lot of brains
  • MstislavHrabr 9 June 2020 11: 28 New
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    Is Roman Skomorokhov a pseudonym for K. Semin? Or is it now customary, watched the video and retold what he saw and heard? So then the link to the video had to be thrown ...
  • Revival 9 June 2020 11: 33 New
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    The population, in a large percentage, approves of such an attitude towards itself, which means it deserves
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    The population, in a large percentage, approves of such an attitude towards itself, which means it deserves

    ABOUT! how are we to you? unworthy of you? Inert, not understanding your great intentions, go to the USA, there are now many who want to smash everything, they will understand you, but one thing, they will need to be repainted in black ...
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      go to the USA

      And so the civil wars begin, instead of reaching a compromise, one must send each other to hell, resting against the hooves like a ram.
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 13: 20 New
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    Threat is another opponent of the regime, a certain Efremov came under the rink of repression REGIME! I worry for the author and his fans ....
    1. Overlock 9 June 2020 17: 50 New
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      Threat is another opponent of the regime, a certain Efremov came under the rink of repression REGIME!

      from sumy and from prison do not renounce!
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 13: 59 New
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    Threat is another opponent of the regime, a certain Efremov came under the rink of repression REGIME! I worry for the author and his fans ....

    Someone already pressed the minus, I knew that, because all their principledness and the pain of the soul for the people end when it comes to someone from their party. Lies, hypocrisy is the essence of opponents of Regime
  • Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 14: 21 New
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    Yes. The site turns yellow, turns yellow. The influence of China, probably laughing
  • faterdom 9 June 2020 15: 23 New
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    Today I looked at Karaulov, he became aware that this tank was banned from operation since 2016, completely and officially, and the TFR found this document ...
    And what, in four years you can throw reproach: "Well, my friend, haven’t you changed the tank? Now it’s going to be more expensive ..."
    Is that how it should be? Prohibited? - Prohibited! - Exploited? -Exploited? We get the Criminal Code, try on what describes this act and serve the verdict. It is possible and with confiscation, for the sake of such a case, urgently collect a trained DG, an amendment to the Criminal Code - sign here, and there you will get gray pants, a jacket and a cap!
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 15: 56 New
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    go to the USA

    And so the civil wars begin, instead of reaching a compromise, one must send each other to hell, resting against the hooves like a ram.

    Who is the compromise? So for whom are we also worthy of poor governance? That is, we are slaves and he is Dartanyan? Do you really think that with a brow who thinks so, there may be a compromise?
  • andrew42 9 June 2020 16: 22 New
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    Potanin and his companions have a good chance to repeat Gref’s feint with Sberbank. “Sell” to the Norilsk Nickel state and congratulate the esteemed Russians on yet another “people's enterprise”, with fixed assets, but without money.
  • Old Horseradish 9 June 2020 17: 42 New
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    So, an environmental disaster on a state scale of the Russian North and the Arctic. In any normal state, a competent commission is appointed with representatives of the competent authorities and ALL activities of the company are checked. From and to. Because such a company is essentially a threat to the country, the environment, life and health of people. Based on the results of the commission, a decision is made. Here is the question of nationalization (effective owners are not able to effectively manage and are a threat to the life and health of citizens).
    "Patrushev warned that the accident at the thermal power plant in Norilsk is in the hands of those wishing to discredit Russia
    Moscow. the 9th of June. INTERFAX.RU - The fuel spill at CHPP-3 in Norilsk as a result of underestimating the threats posed by climate change may play into the hands of those who seek to discredit Russia's policy in the Arctic, said Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev.
    In addition, he said, underestimation of the possible consequences of climate change leads to serious environmental consequences and material costs.

    He emphasized that special attention should be paid to ensuring the security of fuel and energy facilities in the Arctic. "

    By the way. Diesel fuel cannot be stopped, and it goes straight to the Kara Sea. The direct culprit is Potanin and his comrades. And they must be held accountable.
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 18: 08 New
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    Victoriousness takes place as a phenomenon - it is an admonition of the current bourgeois power to the feat of our ancestors, who fought against capitalism, and not FOR it, fought against Hitlerism as a ram of "all bourgeoisie." This is victory when Demons are played with Our Victory.



    About how it should be understood that you are against the celebration of May 9, since now it is not the USSR? Yeltsin is delighted, what are the supposedly current Communists different from liberals? it was precisely these Lenin who stigmatized the Trotskyists, and Stalin took an ice pick. All the same, the smartest person was ....
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      We must understand that the one who wrote this is not all right with his head, the capitalists do not let the poor live everywhere.
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    So, an environmental disaster on a state scale of the Russian North and the Arctic. In any normal state, a competent commission is appointed with representatives of the competent authorities and ALL activities of the company are checked. From and to. Because such a company is essentially a threat to the country, the environment, life and health of people. Based on the results of the commission, a decision is made. Here is the question of nationalization (effective owners are not able to effectively manage and are a threat to the life and health of citizens).
    "Patrushev warned that the accident at the thermal power plant in Norilsk is in the hands of those wishing to discredit Russia
    Moscow. the 9th of June. INTERFAX.RU - The fuel spill at CHPP-3 in Norilsk as a result of underestimating the threats posed by climate change may play into the hands of those who seek to discredit Russia's policy in the Arctic, said Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev.
    In addition, he said, underestimation of the possible consequences of climate change leads to serious environmental consequences and material costs.

    He emphasized that special attention should be paid to ensuring the security of fuel and energy facilities in the Arctic. "

    By the way. Diesel fuel cannot be stopped, and it goes straight to the Kara Sea. The direct culprit is Potanin and his comrades. And they must be held accountable.


    I don’t know, maybe someone wants to live according to concepts, I prefer by law.
    There were man-made disasters during the Soviet era, and on an order of magnitude more significant, with hundreds of victims, etc.
    Was the profile minister legally responsible for this? No. How could he know that he had director N - slobber? carried in accordance with the law of the specific culprit. I don’t like Potanin, but he has dozens if not hundreds of enterprises, I’m sure he didn’t even know about capacity problems. There is a specific culprit of the director, and he will bear RESPONSIBILITY
    1. Old Horseradish 9 June 2020 18: 30 New
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      I prefer by law.

      You would be silent here about the law. Even the so-called oligarchs in moments of frankness talk about privatization, that it stood very far from the rule of law. In Soviet times, it was a common national property. Or state property. Here's the question, who did she hit? The answer is elementary - an environmental disaster on a state scale of the North of Russia. This means, at least, the incapacity of management, and to the maximum ............
      Vladimir Potanin: “Which country has been privatized”
      https://www.forbes.ru/sobytiya/lyudi/83751-vladimir-potanin-kakaya-strana-tak-i-privatizirovali
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    I prefer by law.

    You would be silent here about the law. Even the so-called oligarchs in moments of frankness talk about privatization, that it stood very far from the rule of law. In Soviet times, it was a common national property. Or state property. Here's the question, who did she hit? The answer is elementary - an environmental disaster on a state scale of the North of Russia. This means, at least, the incapacity of management, and to the maximum ............
    Vladimir Potanin: “Which country has been privatized”
    https://www.forbes.ru/sobytiya/lyudi/83751-vladimir-potanin-kakaya-strana-tak-i-privatizirovali


    Oh how do you prefer as in a gang of concepts
    Threat and yes for privatization, I think it is necessary to bring not only Potanin to justice, but also you!
    Judging by the nickname, you were an adult in the 90s, why didn’t you allow the collapse of the USSR and privatization? According to the law of the USSR for treason, the motherland was supposed to the highest degree? Draw conclusions!
    1. Old Horseradish 9 June 2020 20: 43 New
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      Boy, in the late 80s and early 90s I was a young guy who served in the SA in the Far East. We firmly believed in the Central Committee of the CPSU, Gorbachev. But Yeltsin was no longer believed. How the deposits of the population were covered, how the USSR collapsed in the 91st year. What specifically could I oppose to party functionaries from the regional committees? And what could the people do if they were betrayed by the elite of power in the person of the Central Committee of the CPSU? As for the conclusions - they are talking about the conclusions now. And you rave about some Pharisee legitimacy. Well, all that after the 91st year, to put it mildly, is not entirely legitimate, including and all this so-called privatization.
      1. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 21: 12 New
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        Quote: Old Horseradish
        in the late 80s and early 90s, I was a young guy who served in the SA in the Far East

        So what then, to the devil, “old” hell are you? You’re absolutely young as hell, since you yourself decided to call this vegetable laughing
  • WayKheThuo 9 June 2020 20: 38 New
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    So, a very large environmental disaster occurred in Norilsk. 20 thousand tons of oil products into the river - this, sorry, is no worse than in the Gulf of Mexico.

    The author, 5 million barrels of oil spilled in the Gulf of Mexico (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_Explosion_ of the Oil Platform_).
    This is about 651 900 tons (plus / minus). Our 20 tons were not nearby.
    Was it really difficult to check?
  • Oleg1 9 June 2020 20: 57 New
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    Quote: Old Horseradish
    Boy, in the late 80s and early 90s I was a young guy who served in the SA in the Far East. We firmly believed in the Central Committee of the CPSU, Gorbachev. But Yeltsin was no longer believed. How the deposits of the population were covered, how the USSR collapsed in the 91st year. What specifically could I oppose to party functionaries from the regional committees? And what could the people do if they were betrayed by the elite of power in the person of the Central Committee of the CPSU? As for the conclusions - they are talking about the conclusions now. And you rave about some Pharisee legitimacy. Well, all that after the 91st year, to put it mildly, is not entirely legitimate, including and all this so-called privatization.

    So you also served in the CA? Oath text:
    I swear to conscientiously study military affairs, to take care of military and national property in every way and to the last breath to be devoted to my People, my Soviet Motherland and the Soviet Government .....
    If I violate this solemn oath of mine, then let me suffer the harsh punishment of Soviet law, the general hatred and contempt of the workers ”
    You violated it, who are you after that? There is nothing to justify, they taught me in the army: Each ram should carry its own I-Tsa. You wear yours! And do not make excuses for age. From the point of view of the law you are a criminal and from the point of view of morality a traitor.
    And yes ... even though you are "Old Horseradish", behave culturally!

    Quote: WayKhe Thuo
    So, a very large environmental disaster occurred in Norilsk. 20 thousand tons of oil products into the river - this, sorry, is no worse than in the Gulf of Mexico.

    The author, 5 million barrels of oil spilled in the Gulf of Mexico (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_Explosion_ of the Oil Platform_).
    This is about 651 900 tons (plus / minus). Our 20 tons were not nearby.
    Was it really difficult to check?

    So the goal was not to resent the emergency, but to tell us how bad it is in Russia, to rock the country .... the manuals of the liberals have not changed an iota since the late 80s.
  • aviator6768 9 June 2020 22: 50 New
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    I personally only have questions for Mr Putin! How long? (read the classics ...) Or - Have the courage ... Well, go to the rank-and-file director, whisper (conversation will not give you your environment), well, be more cunning, you will learn simple and effective moves for at least equalizing the situation. can’t you smell it, well, not the 8th year ... It won’t give you zeroing, they’ll sweep away ... Nikolai was killed brutally and treacherously, but there were so many reasons ......
  • beeper 10 June 2020 06: 54 New
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    The article says it all right good -This is true for the ex-Ukrainian SSR, the current "Ukraine" amerocolony!
    But the word "master" about such people only hurts the eyes and ears!
    What kind of owners are they, these nouveau riche privatizers ?!
    The owner of the farm is always in order - the roof in the workshop (or fuel storage, etc.) does not flow and the workers are provided with everything necessary for work, protected and satisfied with the salary, and these "owners" are NOT the owners! negative
  • ruivit1988 10 June 2020 07: 19 New
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    From here is the conclusion. A president, a minister, or any top manager has far less responsibility than an electrician or plumber.