“Remind prisoners”: Estonian users commented on Danish military awards

The Danish servicemen received new awards the other day. We are talking about the Danish military contingent, which in the format of rotation was located in Estonia. Danish troops were sent to the Tapa military base as part of a program to “protect” the Baltic countries “from potential aggression”.

The new awards are Estonian medals, which were presented to Danish soldiers and officers by the Secretary of the Ministry of Defense of Estonia, Kristjan Prikk. According to Prikka, “the Danes have always come to the aid of Estonia, in various historical periods. "

From Prikka's statement at the ceremony:

The Danish military played an important role in Estonia’s struggle for freedom. And today, the Danish military administrative unit helps the Estonian state to maintain high level security. More than 3,5 soldiers of our allies from the countries of Northern Europe helped Estonia fight for independence, 210 of them from the Danish company.

It is worth noting that in the rotation format, one Danish unit is replaced by another. And already at the end of the year, the Danes in Estonia will be replaced by the French, who are going to transfer to the military base of Tapa also Tanks.

The Estonian Defense Ministry publishes a photo of the Danish military award "for assisting Estonia in the framework of the NATO partnership":

The Danish servicemen themselves say that this is an “important reward”, which went “quite easily”.

Commenting on the award photo, users in the Estonian social media segment noted:

For some reason, they do not resemble defenders, but prisoners.

Could they be built in terms of growth, or is it now also infringing on someone else's rights?

Comments

[Insurgent]

“Remind prisoners”: Estonian users commented on Danish military awards

Yes, in the photo, the Danish military dressing resembles that of "Ze-Ka"...

I won’t be surprised if an Internet meme appears on the network regarding this.

Although ... With the prisoners, I probably got excited ... They have, and then, the ranks are slimmer and the bearing is younger ...

[SRC P-15]

Estonian Defense Ministry publishes award photo of Danish military

So are they also dated?

[mitroha]

More than 3,5 soldiers of our allies from the Nordic countries helped Estonia fight for independence

I can’t understand, with whom are they all fighting for independence? It's just, right now, they are fighting, with whom? The doctor seemed to be on the site, Silvestr, if I'm not mistaken. Or someone else with medical education. Can you explain, if in the history of the struggle for independence with the ephemeral adversary on whom they seem to depend, then what is usually written in the diagnosis? And what about those who help them in this struggle.

[Sergey269]

Share the software, I really want to feel the aroma through the monitor! Underestimating the enemy always leads to very unpleasant consequences. The death of one soldier at the hands of these so-called defenders of a HUGE ESTONIA, for parents, for commanders - a tragedy! Tell me, with what fright these brave warriors were transferred to the border with Russia, to demonstrate not shaved muzzles? These are professional bandits, they know how to kill no worse than you and me! You can laugh on the Internet, but in fact, you have to work hard!

[Uncle lee]

an "important award" that came "quite easily".

They themselves admit that the reward is fake, only "for presence"!

[Crane]

Medal "For Domestic Merit"

[Ros 56]

And weren't the Estonians themselves awarded medals "For Sexual Merit"? Here's a bad luck.

[Crane]

But the most interesting is the statement of the nimble estes about the help of the Danes in their independence. Especially from the XNUMXth century, and then from the XNUMXth, together with the Swedes, they were so democratized and independent.

[Ros 56]

It’s like in that joke about the cowboy who looked into the hollow. Or maybe they liked it for so many centuries.

[Hto tama]

The Danes probably fucked up that they fought for something , especially for the independence of Estonia

[alexmach]

They definitely fought for something there, at least at the time when they owned parts of Estonia.

[alex neym_2]

Sorry: not in parts but in bodies ...

[avg]

Quote: Hto tama

The Danes were probably awesome that they fought for something, especially for the independence of Estonia

I've been a little fucked up too. But, this is today's Europe - 3.14..ry in parliament, blacks call Merkel mom, Breivik lives in a suite, the Danes save Estonia.

[Revolver]

Quote: avg

this is today's Europe - 3.14..ry in parliament, blacks call Merkel mom, Breivik lives in a suite, Danes save Estonia.

- Stirlitz!
- Yes, gruppenführer.
- Stirlitz, you are aware that the Russians are approaching Berlin. And it bothers me that they even infiltrated the Imperial Security Directorate.
- Muller, what are you talking about? Chancellor Baba, Germany pays pensions to Jews, solid Turks work at Daimler-Benz factories, [non-traditional people] pass in parades instead of troops, but are you worried about the Russians? Take a sedative, Muller!
Stirlitz went out, slamming the door. Yefim Kopelyan's voice: "It's true," thought Mueller.

[KVU-NSVD]

Yeah, the Danish unit in the photo does not inspire confidence ... neither in terms of dressing, nor in physics, nor in age composition - some sort of hodgepodge .... With such guarantors for Estonia’s independence, you can be calm .. By the way, what is their interesting broad and hard pocket on the left sleeve of the jacket? For an individual package?

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

For an individual package?

For large chevrons.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

With such guarantors for the independence of Estonia, you can be calm.

"Danish Estland" is the possession of the Kingdom of Denmark, which existed for 127 years from 1219 to 1346 with its capital in Reval. In 1559-1645, the Danes returned the islands of Saaremaa and Muhu. So these are the guarantors, even those carriers of freedom. Although from them in Estonia remained the Danish coat of arms "three lions".

[alexmach]

... not straightened

Stand in a position "at ease"

neither in physics nor in age composition

In three photos you can see two fat men, they are two, apparently not young. Think about it.

[voyaka uh]

They have no drill training. Placa, "Left ... right. Attention."
In Israel, either. We have: the worse the soldiers march, the more combat-ready they are.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: voyaka uh

We have: the worse the soldiers march, the more combat-ready they are

Well, the guerrillas are balmy

[Mouse]

Danish military unit

whole unit ... no longer zero!

[voyaka uh]

Aha we once in the Golan, for a long time, inadvertently frightened UN peacekeepers from Austria, patrolling the neutral zone. It was winter. We jumped out in a jeep to meet them when they were returning to the pit. territory. We are dirty, our clothes are baggy, our helmets are wearing hoods, and the jeep is also in dirty camouflage nets. Machine guns stick out. The guys were sure that ran into unpleasant partisans. They persuaded them in English that this was the regular army of Israel. Peace to the world!

[Revolver]

Quote: voyaka uh

In Israel, either. We have: the worse the soldiers march, the more combat-ready they are.

Yes, I heard about the Israeli army: "When talking with the commander, do not twist the buttons on his uniform, do not wave your hands, do not pick at the nose."
Compare with the Russian one: "In the presence of superiors, the subordinate should look dashing and silly, so as not to embarrass the supervisor with his cleverness."
And nothing, both those and others fought quite successfully.

[Grigory M.]

Somehow
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/grimnir74/16472677/4178908/4178908_original.jpg

[Grigory M.]

In Israel, either. We have: the worse the soldiers march, the more combat-ready they are.

Something like this ... Probably the most uncomfortable ....

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: voyaka uh

They have no drill training. Placa, "Left ... right. Attention."
In Israel, either. We have: the worse the soldiers march, the more combat-ready they are.

at the courses of a young fighter, they marched a little in the dining room.

as a rule, soldiers in peacetime are dressed in uniform, marching in a glance, the lawn is shiny in part, but combat efficiency is low.
soldiers during the fighting are not dressed according to the charter, their eyes are arrogant and if they can send a general. and they can fight many times over their peaceful version.

[Sergey269]

This is not the presentation of awards, but a divorce to work from the movie "Operation" Y "..." From the alcoholic vodka outfits did not come, the muzzles at the so-called. Danish military personnel hurt sour. He served in Tapa in 81, the memories are not the most pleasant ... Especially after washing in a bath with slightly warmed water, and on the street - minus 20, and in the barracks - plus 11. But we looked slimmer!

[Threaded screw]

Ordinary contractors, in general, they got to nothing in vain about their appearance, otherwise you can run into such ones.

And then they will not care what they are dressed and how they stand.

[Sergey269]

And in the mid-90s we were just like that!

[svp67]

In the first photo, at the head of the formation more "Saracens" than "Viking" ...

[Sergey269]

Stock of fresh meat ... "NZ"

[Moore]

According to Prikka, “the Danes have always come to the aid of Estonia, in the most diverse historical periods.”

There is nothing to cover here. Checkmate. And they came and helped. They helped mostly rectally, though.
As they pulled themselves up in those distant Europe in 1219, it was only in 1346 that the Livonian Order managed to drive this ruinous place. In the meantime, they possessed, had fun with the solution of the pagan question - the "languagefrei" was a success no worse than the purely Estonian "Judenfrei" in 1941.
The second coming to the island of Ezel in the 17th century spoke of some kind of understatement in relations between the high parties. Yes, they came again and again spread rot. Well, until the Swedes kicked them out.
In all these historical conflicts, the fact that the Estonians themselves (chud) took part in them exclusively as terpils is clearly traced. Genetic memory is a great thing, hence the heels of the descendants of the owners.

[alexmach]

Firstly, the place is not dead, but at one time it was very promising, and even in the 19-20 centuries and now it is not the last. What is the main base of the Baltic Fleet at one time only.

Secondly, the Estonians vrylyat the Chud, the Chud lived much noticeably to the south.

And the last thing about the fact that they took part only in the role of tolerating is also not true, according to legend, the Finougri also participated in the same vocation of Rurik, on a par with the Slavs, as if two out of five called. And before that, they did "drive away the Varangians", while presumably and most likely those very Danes.

[English tarantas]

Well, of course, you remembered King Peas, or rather Prince Rurik. Then they said A, speak B, where did the Varangians and Novgorodians go then, to go robbing, is it not in the Baltic states?

[alexmach]

where are the Vikings and Novgorodians

The Varangians - anywhere, almost reached Venice, according to rumors America was torn off and lived in Greenland. In addition, the slave trade was traded along the same Path From the Varangians to the Greeks, while trading with coastal tribes ...

This, and why remember there, heard such a city of Tallinn? Estonian - Danish city. There are a lot of blondes in Estonia ... all the descendants of these overseas feudal lords, Swedes, Germans or Danes. Mostly apparently Swedes.

[English tarantas]

Something seems to me that all the Balts initially have a true Nordic appearance, or very similar to the Slavs, so probably not the descendants, but the native Aryans.

Varangians - anywhere

Well, to the Baltic states permanently, from the earliest times and until now they have not stopped fighting at all.

[alexmach]

Something seems to me all the Balts initially have a true Nordic appearance

I can’t say for everyone, among Estonians, everything Nordic is from the Vikings.

well, or very similar to the Slavs, so probably not the descendants, but the native Aryans.

There was some kind of study of the genetic Estonians, which somewhat disappointed them - it turned out that they had no one closer to the Russians.

[English tarantas]

According to archeology, the Slavs settled across Europe from the Baltic and the border area with it, and before settling in the Baltic there was one culture that the Slavs carried and changed, and in the Baltic it changed without going far geographically. Therefore, most likely the Baltic and Slavic ancestors were very close tribes, it was in the times before and during the Great Migration, that is, in antiquity, and ancient historians and travelers described the Slavs who settled from the Baltic as tall, fair-eyed, fair-skinned Caucasians with blond hair, mostly fair-haired, but why aren't you Aryans?

[alexmach]

Aryans are fiction, and data on the ethnogenesis of the Slavs are very contradictory. The hypothesis of descent from the Balts is just a hypothesis, and given the fact that the very same Estonians belong to another, moreover, the once very widespread language group makes everything completely confused. Well, the very great migration of peoples mixed all the ethnic maps in Eurasia so much that it is hard to imagine how much.

[English tarantas]

You generally missed.
1. The ethnogenesis of the Slavs has been studied quite well; there is no more information about us, but not much less than about other ethnic groups. Pots, houses, sometimes inscriptions and references in written sources, just a study of geography and DNA analysis + statistical analysis of analyzes - all these are generally sources of information about all ethnic groups and Slavs too.
2. Did I write somewhere that the Slavs descended from the ancestors of the Balts? I wrote that we once had a common culture, not a language, not a state (more precisely, early state formations), and that this could mean that the ancestors of the Balts and the ancestors of the Slavs had very similar phenotypes and their modern representatives can be very similar, since general culture means at least constant communication, incl. high frequency marriage, i.e. a mixture of geno and phenotypes.
3. Aryans are not fiction, their descendants live quietly in Central Asia. Do not confuse real Aryans and Nazi propaganda, in my comments I spoke about the image of a "true Aryan" invented by the Nazis.
4. In addition, the belonging of Estonians to another language group does not confuse anything at all, but does not give any answers. We do not have written sources that will reliably tell what language the Proto-Slavs, ancient Estonians spoke and wrote, maybe we spoke the same language, or maybe changed it, and more than once, think the English themselves even though they once spoke the German language and now they continue in general, but in English there are words of non-Germanic origin and how many English borrowings in Russian per day do you borrow English, and how many words do you consider native Russian, and is that not so?
5. Yes, resettlement entailed a lot of things. But here's a concrete speaking example for what I wrote above: Hungarians. What language do they speak? Does it prevent them from being Christians? Does their origin prevent them from living in European culture and European values? Does it prevent them from having other genes and different phenotypes than, say, the neighboring Slavs, Germans?
Archeology simply provides information, while other sciences provide knowledge with which archeology systematizes and parses the information received, looking for patterns. By the way, I advise you to dig up the ethnogenesis of the Slavs, I myself became interested a year or two ago, there is enough information, of course not as much as about some, but much more than about most of the known peoples, ethnic groups, nations.

[alexmach]

The ethnogenesis of the Slavs has been studied quite well. There is no more information about us, but not much less than about other ethnic groups.

So after all, anyone's ethnoginesis is rather vague and arbitrary.

Pots, houses, sometimes inscriptions and references in written sources, just a study of geography and DNA analysis + statistical analysis of analyzes - all this in general and sources of information about all ethnic groups and Slavs too

I admit, I’m not so deeply absorbed in this topic, but DNA research in Europe in terms of ethnogenesis is, by and large, useless. Europeans live quite locally and mix intensively for millennia. These are not some kind of Polynesian Indians living very apart.
Inscriptions - what inscriptions? Slavic writing appeared relatively recently, pre-Cyrillic - almost not preserved, if any.
External sources do not deserve special trust - in ancient times there was no ethnography and interest in the study of neighbors. What is worth, for example, the same description of Svyatoslav in the Byzantine chronicles licked from Attila.
I do not want to say that there is no data, they are, but as far as I know, it is impossible to draw any definite conclusions on these data.

ancient Estonians, maybe we spoke the same language, or maybe changed it, and more than once, think the British themselves even though they once spoke the German language and now generally continue, but in English there are words of non-German origin and how many in Russian the language you pronounce English borrowings per day, but how many words do you consider native Russian, and is that not so?

No, here it is not necessary about the British, as they spoke the language of the Romano-Germanic group, they say so. Just borrowed from the Normans, also Romano-Germans, 3 \ 4 words. But Estonians have a completely different language, of a different origin, of a different grammatical structure, here you cannot do with borrowed words and is once very common in Eurasia. For representatives of this language group met from the Urals to eastern Europe.

[Moore]

Quote: alexmach

Firstly, the place is not dead, but at one time it was very promising, and even in the 19-20 centuries and now it is not the last. What is the main base of the Baltic Fleet at one time only.

It was promising only and exclusively for the creation of hemorrhoids for Pskov and Novgorod. For Russia - yes, access to the sea, for which they fought. For the Danes - a suitcase without a handle.

Quote: alexmach

Secondly, the Estonians vrylyat the Chud, the Chud lived much noticeably to the south.

Well, don’t believe me, believe the local professor referenced by Vicki: For the first time, a chud identified as “Finnish people either the esthlanders"In 1734, a professor from Abo Algot Skarin (1684-1771)

Quote: alexmach

And the last thing about the fact that they took part only in the role of suffering - is also not true

I am talking about specific historical events, not from Romulus associates. Or do you think that the Ests were equal partners with the Danes and all sorts of other Livonians?

[alexmach]

It was promising only and exclusively for the creation of hemorrhoids for Pskov and Novgorod. For Russia - yes, access to the sea, for which they fought. For the Danes - a suitcase without a handle.

Yeah .. Danes are fools just rushing there.
Shipping is the basis of international trade to this day. At a time when they could only sail in a coastal way - without losing sight of the coast, the presence of intermediate bases was simply necessary. Any coastal land in the Baltic was "strategically important." Especially considering the existence of river trade routes that made the transport system truly open and "internationally integrated".

Well, don’t believe me, believe the local professor whom Vicki refers to: For the first time a chud identified as “Finnish or Estlandian” in 1734 a professor from Abo Algot Skarin (1684-1771)

The fact that he so identified them in the 18th century does not mean at all that 800 years before that, that was all.
The ingenious Mikhail Vasilievich Lomonosov not long before that led the Russians out of the Prussians, but the Romanovs personally from Augustus. Believe this nonsense too?

I am talking about specific historical events, not from Romulus associates. Or do you think that the Ests were equal partners with the Danes and all sorts of other Livonians?

The annals clearly write who was there and with whom they were equal partners, indicating them in one list. But the argument that Rurik’s calling is semi-legendary and 100% historically unconfirmed is fully justified.

[Moore]

Quote: alexmach

Yeah .. Danes are fools just rushing there.

The Danes rushed along the entire coast of the Baltic Sea where there was enough strength to reach out and where the probability of snatching a cradle was lower than the statistical one.
They clearly overestimated their capabilities, and therefore, in the end, they had to concede this land, favorable from your point of view, to the Livonians. The costs of maintaining these territories clearly exceeded the logistics nishtyaki.

Quote: alexmach

The fact that he so identified them in the 18th century does not mean at all that 800 years before that, that was all.

Which in turn does not mean at all that it is you who are right.

Quote: alexmach

The chronicle clearly writes who is there and with whom were equal partners, indicating them in one list.

I would not want to repeat that we are considering a slightly different historical era.

[alexmach]

The Danes rushed along the entire coast of the Baltic Sea where there was enough strength to reach out and where the probability of snatching a cradle was lower than the statistical one.

Actually, at one time, the Swedes didn’t really pile on very seriously, and they didn’t crush the whole Baltic ... they didn’t grow together a bit.

They clearly overestimated their capabilities, and therefore, in the end, I had to concede this land, favorable from your point of view, to the Livons

Or just at some historical moment, the Livonians were significantly stronger.

The costs of maintaining these territories clearly exceeded the logistics nishtyaki.

Yes what expenses there, tea unemployment benefits did not pay that.

Which in turn does not mean at all that it is you who are right.

Almost all of the Finno-Ugric peoples whom they met from Novgorod and even to Murmansk are called miracles in the Russian chronicles, and the finougres themselves do not know such a word, and there are a lot of different veins here for every square kilometer. There, only the names of the tribes in languages ​​have survived to this day.

I would not want to repeat that we are considering a slightly different historical era.

What kind of historical era do you prefer to consider? The Danes in the Baltic have probably already shy away the last thousand years.

[Prisoner]

Especially funny is the Afrodatan with medals from the Danes, who, according to some woodpeckers who were frostbitten in history, “always came to HELP (help, Karl! )

[Alex 2020]

Tell me, when exactly did the Danes fight for the independence and freedom of Estonia? Found only this ...
Estonia, also known as "Danish Estonia" is the possession of the kingdom of Denmark, which existed 127 years from 1219 to 1346 with the capital in Revel (now Tallinn), which got its name during this period. The colonization of the Baltic states was carried out mainly by German mercenaries from Westphalia. The crisis of the Danish monarchy in 1346 and the turmoil in Denmark in the mid-1343th century were exacerbated by the peasant war of 1345–XNUMX, when Estonian peasants, with the help of the Pskovites, rose to fight the Danish-German feudal lords.
Due to the fact that the Danish government was fragile due to the relative remoteness of Denmark and its small demographic potential, under pressure from German knights, the Danish territories in Estonia were sold to the Livonian Order, which had strengthened by that time. After their long absence in the Baltic States, in 1559–1645, the Danes managed to regain control of the islands of Saaremaa and Mukhu, as well as the Kurland bishopric, with its center in Piltene in northwest modern Latvia. But already in 1645, all Danish lands were again captured by Sweden. During the Northern War of 1700-1721, Russia took possession of all the dominions of Sweden in the Baltic states (Estonia - in 1713). Corresponding territorial changes were recorded by the Nystadt Peace Treaty of 1721.

[gabonskijfront]

Three days in the field and they will look like normal wars, dirty, torn, constantly hungry, who have dysentery, who have an exacerbation of hemorrhoids, ready to surrender to anyone for a mug of boiling water. But after that the soldier begins to form.

[iouris]

In what historical periods did Denmark "always come to the aid of Estonia" ??? When did the inhabitants of these places know that they were "Estonians"?

[Operator]

Estonians have the memory of the Danish colonialists in their subcortex - as soon as they are seen, they immediately assume the "ku" pose and take out the Vaseline from their pockets.

In the first photo, the credible Afro-Dane is the sex symbol of all of Estonia

[Pvi1206]

and the Danes need these little spools? ... Estonian authorities are promoting ...

[besser best]

And Tallinn is translated into Russian as "Danish City".

[tatarin1972]

Strange people, both Estonians and Danes. The entire Estonian army is 5500 people, 3500 "double basses" and 2000 conscripts, the whole army does not reach the division, the Danes company is strong reinforcement, instead of 3 minutes, they will hold out for 3 minutes, 10 seconds.

[Revolver]

To grow in size? Not up to date and politically incorrect. Correct in pairs (or more) in accordance with orientation and identification.

[Poetry]

Slowly spinning a turntable a local windmill,
A local sailor walks on a slow schooner,
Children are slow here. The same parents.
Slow in the circus, lions and tamers.
Slowly clouds are floating in the sky
Slow flights of thoughts, flights of a fist.
Estonian elevators barely creep up the mountain,
Doctors slowly cut and darn here.
Cars drive slowly along the roads,
In a local colony, the term is slowly stretching.
The second hand slowly makes a circle,
Their joy and slow fright are slow.
Even Estonian phrases seem slower
Slower clatter of hooves, creaking of a mattress,
The local grasshopper slowly jumped into the grass,
Slower even the deceased is worn in a coffin.
Even chew slower in the gardens,
Estonians are slowly kind, slowly angry.
If someone says that Estonians are brakes,
That Estonians will be against, the rest for.
2019 Kingisepp.

[Poetry]

After the "gardens" - because evil.

[Poetry]

After the "gardens" - because evil. Author.

[Poetry]

Ahead is "Field Marshal" Stoltenberg,
Which mentally has already exposed us all ...

[Lord of the Sith]

A good example of how a herd in camouflage differs from military personnel in uniform))
Fighters, damn it)) It seems that they dressed absolutely civilians in cartoons and ordered to be built.

[Peter is not the first]

More than 3,5 soldiers of our allies from the Nordic countries helped Estonia fight for independence

While we are in quarantine, it turns out that the world is restless! We even missed a war in Estonia.
Again, Russia did not show up for war.

[APASUS]

The Estonian Defense Ministry publishes a photo of the Danish military award "for assisting Estonia in the framework of the NATO partnership":

For visiting a local bar?

[Olddetractor]

What "aggression", such are the defenders. Something has rotted in the Danish state ...

[pepel]

“According to Prikka,“ the Danes have always come to Estonia's aid, in various historical periods. ”- at the genetic level, he remembers who is the true master in Estonia. Clap bows with medals to the sovereign.

[k_ply]

The "harsh" past of Estonian citizens is making itself felt.