German ex-MP: Sweet talks between Putin and Merkel will not bring Russia and the West together


In 2017, Gernot Erler left the Bundestag, and before that he was a deputy for 30 years. During the years of his political activity, he established himself as a specialist in Russia and Eastern Europe.


Erler recently gave a great interview to the German radio station Deutschlandfunk, in which the politician, among other things, discusses the complex relationship between Russia and the West.

In particular, the German deputy recalls the years when relations between Russia and the West were good, but they were good from the point of view of the West. At that time, the Russians felt humiliated. Despite all kinds of summits, meetings, smiles and handshakes, in Russia there was an opinion that the West insidiously took advantage of the weakness of the Soviet Union and, later, Russia, to achieve its goals that are harmful to the interests of our country.

In particular, a sign of treachery of Western countries was the expansion of NATO, contrary to assurances that no expansion of the North Atlantic bloc in the eastern direction will occur.

According to Erler, the last straw overflowing the patience of Russia was the preparation in 2013 of signing an association agreement with the European Union. In the Russian Federation, this document was perceived as another anti-Russian attack. According to the German deputy, the West then had completely different goals. They understood that Ukraine’s entry into the European Union is impossible, therefore, as an alternative, they proposed to Kiev to conclude an association agreement with the EU.

What this led to in the end - everyone knows. Radically-minded forces seized power in Ukraine and unleashed a civil war, Crimean residents spoke out for reunification with Russia, and relations between the Russian Federation and the West completely deteriorated.

Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe, which upsets him very much. But Putin’s sweet talk with Merkel isn’t enough to establish international relations. According to the Bundestag deputy, a broad socio-political dialogue is needed at all levels, aimed at eliminating misunderstandings between Russia and Western countries. As an example, he mentions the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which ultimately led to a relaxation in relations between the NATO countries and the Warsaw Pact.
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  1. Threaded screw 8 June 2020 13: 19 New
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    Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe
    Is Russia destabilizing Europe ???
    As an example, he mentions the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which ultimately led to detente in relations between NATO countries
    So now it’s NATO already in Ukraine and Georgia, and then what?
    1. Lexus 8 June 2020 14: 04 New
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      Quote: Threaded Screw
      So now it’s NATO already in Ukraine and Georgia, and then what?

      And then grandfather and grandmother will shake together in unison. They lay on the oars. Let the people of Germany decide the fate of the Angels, but it’s time for us to change the location and “sit down” in the area of ​​the Ambarnaya and Daldykan rivers - to row diesel fuel from them. Together with friends and girlfriends, scoop up / dissolve their "merits" and restore the taiga, gnawed in favor of "friend C".
      1. Threaded screw 8 June 2020 14: 17 New
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        "sit down" in the area of ​​the Ambarnaya and Daldykan rivers - row diesel fuel from them. Together with friends and girlfriends, scoop out / dissolve their "merits"
        Not in the eyebrow but in the eye, as it is.
        1. not in the eye, but in the mouth of such de bill ...
          1. Shurik70 8 June 2020 23: 42 New
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            NATO itself killed Gaddafi.
            So it is NATO that is destabilizing Europe.
      2. Civil 8 June 2020 14: 36 New
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        The West treacherously took advantage of the weaknesses of the Soviet Union, and later of Russia, to achieve its goals,

        And who made the country weak, aren't the infantile inhabitants themselves? And now their grandchildren and children.
      3. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 8 June 2020 21: 35 New
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        Quote: lexus
        but it’s time for us to change the location and “sit down” in the area of ​​the Barn rivers


        They forgot to ask your opinion. Although, it was said, steam was released and that’s goodhi
    2. Olgovich 8 June 2020 14: 17 New
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      Quote: Threaded Screw
      Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe
      Is Russia destabilizing Europe ???
      As an example, he mentions the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which ultimately led to detente in relations between NATO countries
      So now it’s NATO already in Ukraine and Georgia, and then what?

      A full long interview of him look at Inosmi.

      the still FASCIST is an unfinished one, the son of a major Vermach murdered by us at 45 meters near Leipzig (he is still very offended).

      He is very proud that in Kosovo, contrary to international law, they beat Serpbia, that Germany reunited, and is outraged that Russia reunited with Crimea ....
      1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 14: 55 New
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        Quote: Olgovich
        the still FASCIST is an unfinished one, the son of a major Vermach murdered by us at 45 meters near Leipzig (he is still very offended).

        And what can you say about the fact that Hitler’s favorite club Schalke 04 is now sponsoring MigazPrem? What is it like?
        1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 31 New
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          You know, Hitler traveled to Berlin and lived there, then how is it?
          1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 15: 33 New
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            Quote: cniza
            You know, Hitler traveled to Berlin and lived there, then how is it?

            Are you sure that Stirlitz knew about this? belay
            1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 50 New
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              Without a shadow of doubt, he knew about Vienna.
              1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 15: 56 New
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                Quote: cniza
                Without a shadow of doubt, he knew about Vienna.

                I am very sorry, but according to our information, Comrade Isaev was carrying out another task, and you confuse Stirlitz with Schroeder. Remember, Stirlitz is our, and Schroeder is German. hi
                1. cniza 8 June 2020 16: 04 New
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                  It depends on which side to look, the place of birth is not so important, the main thing is what I am convinced of and what you are doing.
        2. Aleksey Aleksandrovich 8 June 2020 21: 39 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          gas gas


          Are you stuck on this phrase today? Or has the training manual been updated? Are you now recommended that gas exports be called that?
          1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 21: 48 New
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            Quote: Alexey Alexandrovich
            Are you stuck on this phrase today? Or has the training manual been updated? Have you now been instructed to export gas this way?

            No, what are you, I just came up with it yesterday, because it "cuts me" from time to time
        3. Olgovich 9 June 2020 07: 03 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          And what can you say about the fact that Hitler’s favorite club Schalke 04 is now sponsoring MigazPrem? What is it like?

          Do I hate vegetarians now? Do not ride on the autobahn?
          1. Liam 9 June 2020 07: 08 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            Do not ride on the autobahn?

            Well, it definitely doesn’t threaten you
            1. Olgovich 9 June 2020 07: 26 New
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              Quote: Liam

              Well, it definitely doesn’t threaten you


              And not one dozen thousand kilometers have already "threatened". and not only in Germany

              What is your sbch. business. by the way? hi
    3. Alexander Sosnitsky 8 June 2020 14: 45 New
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      the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which eventually led to detente in relations between the NATO countries and the Warsaw Pact.

      Then the USSR disappeared from the political map of the world. Thank you for such a friendship. Better you to visit us at Kolyma
      1. credo 8 June 2020 15: 29 New
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        Quote: Alexander Sosnitsky
        the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which eventually led to detente in relations between the NATO countries and the Warsaw Pact.

        Then the USSR disappeared from the political map of the world. Thank you for such a friendship. Better you to visit us at Kolyma

        It is very rare to hear from a resident of Western Europe something positive about Russia, because their brains have been rinsed and washed for centuries by the local authorities and the Catholic Church on the fact that in the east of the borders of their "Bright and Clean World" there is an enemy, day and night dreaming of how to destroy and seize this very western world.
        Therefore, it is not surprising that for centuries the soldiers of this "Bright and Clean World" invaded the territory of Eastern Europe, in general, and Russia, in particular, robbing and decreasing everything that somehow does not fit into the idea of ​​their justice.
        So there is nothing to be surprised when the Spanish press proudly recalls its soldiers and their heroism while maintaining the siege of Leningrad, or Italians who salute the remnants of their "heroes" who managed to blow their feet from under Stalingrad, or the Germans who are calm about local young nations gathering peacefully and serenely under fascist banners and slogans in Germany itself.
        And this offspring of the former Wehrmacht soldier by fascist Germany just once again reminded us of what justice means in the representation of the next representative of the Western world. Nothing new.
        1. Alexander Sosnitsky 8 June 2020 19: 27 New
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          Yes, and this is a constant in our relationship. Therefore, you need to play multi-way and catch them on their weaknesses. The most important thing. soon everyone will have nothing to eat, and the great and mighty have nowhere to rush - everything is there. During this time, it is possible to create intellectual and spiritual natural supercivilization and catch such a known weak spot. Russia is the only country that can withstand the whole world. This is its advantage without going beyond its borders. You just need to use it, time is unlimited. And do not drink like Boris the Drunk, who also created a memory center, a disgrace to the people. The Japanese understood this for a long time and became isolated on their small islands, producing all the best after 2MB. And the Russian Federation can also add territory to this, and without violence, and the technology is super, and live in pleasure. The spiritual center of the world, in contrast to the ever warlike.
  2. svp67 8 June 2020 13: 19 New
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    Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe, which upsets him very much.
    And what is Western policy directed at? Especially in light of the talk about the breakup of Russia into small states ...
    1. lubesky 8 June 2020 15: 34 New
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      So this is the norm, no? Not there it is considered that the natives of the colonized territory not only resist, but also bear some kind of reciprocal plans and measures, which is a sign of intelligence. That they cannot accept
  3. Same lech 8 June 2020 13: 24 New
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    According to the Bundestag deputy, a broad socio-political dialogue is needed at all levels, aimed at eliminating misunderstandings between Russia and Western countries.

    A famous song ... since the days of Gorbachev.
    What prevents Germany from establishing this dialogue without setting unacceptable demands of Russia ... they have imposed sanctions against us and still talk about dialogue ... these are false identities.
    Once, with the help of Gorbachev, the Germans managed to fool us ... the second time there would be no such luck for Germany.
    1. alexmach 8 June 2020 13: 46 New
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      imposed sanctions against us and still talk about dialogue ... here are false individuals

      Well, the Germans are actually just the same honest. They at least soberly assess the current situation and their role in it, and do it publicly, publicly. Of course, they don’t get to practical steps, where are they, but it’s still much more adequate than the eternal American “Russia must”
    2. Kurare 8 June 2020 13: 48 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      What prevents Germany from establishing this dialogue without exposing Russia's unacceptable demands ...

      About 40 thousand overseas soldiers with the possibility in the shortest possible time will increase in about three of their number. Although, if you look closely, Germany is almost the only one of the top 5 European countries that still has channels for a possible dialogue with Russia.
      Quote: The same Lech
      imposed sanctions against us and still talk about dialogue ... these are false personalities.

      The "Kindergarten" von der Layen did not get tired and never tires of repeating how important it is to conduct a dialogue with Russia from a position of strength. Somehow they tried to explain to her that such a dialogue is impossible, but such politicians are now in Germany / Europe
      1. Polymer 8 June 2020 20: 04 New
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        Germany is almost the only one of the top 5 European countries that still has channels for a possible dialogue with Russia.

        Not only canals, but also pipes. And they are trying to finish new ones. laughing
    3. fif21 8 June 2020 13: 50 New
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      Quote: The same Lech
      Once with the help of Gorbachev, the Germans managed to fool us ...

      With the help of Gorbachev, party officials turned into masters, and the Germans had nothing to do with it.
      Above this traitor, hangs an article for treason. hi
  4. alexmach 8 June 2020 13: 33 New
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    As an example, he mentions the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which ultimately led to a relaxation in relations between the NATO countries and the Warsaw Pact.

    another "Russians give up?"
  5. Incvizitor 8 June 2020 13: 36 New
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    It is unlikely that in general Russia and the West will bring something closer, and conversations between Putin and Merkel will only solve all the loot because they will conduct business.
  6. Pvi1206 8 June 2020 13: 44 New
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    Trump will bring Russia and Germany closer ...
    1. Raven 95 8 June 2020 14: 50 New
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      Does he need it?
    2. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 29 New
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      Quote: Pvi1206
      Trump will bring Russia and Germany closer ...


      This is a nightmare for them, for them the benefit is a war between us and Germany.
  7. Incvizitor 8 June 2020 13: 44 New
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    For the Russians, the West arouses disgust at best, and in the West pumped up by the false media of the Russian Federation, they were always feared, there would definitely not be any rapprochement, but if it is profitable, they will certainly do business.
  8. rocket757 8 June 2020 13: 45 New
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    German ex-MP: Sweet talks between Putin and Merkel will not bring Russia and the West together

    But is it for us ???
    One must have strength, and friends themselves will reach for it ....
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 28 New
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      For some reason this postulate is forgotten.
      1. rocket757 8 June 2020 16: 53 New
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        The power of the state does not combine with the selfish interests of too many! If they didn’t have a direct threat from behind the hill, they would be taken away from them altogether, they would have fished even more ... and so, they are forced to hold on to their Wishlist.
        1. cniza 8 June 2020 17: 24 New
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          So the West is helping us lol But seriously, we don’t have another option as soon as we become strong ...
          1. rocket757 8 June 2020 18: 10 New
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            At US, yes, the only way .... for some already at a subconscious level, "confuse" the public / state with their own.
            1. cniza 8 June 2020 18: 31 New
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              Oh yes - "everything is collective farm, everything is mine" is a very tenacious slogan.
              1. rocket757 8 June 2020 18: 35 New
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                There are Bender “comrades”, there are Shura Balaganov ... they have a grave reflex, they are registered in the subcortex.
                1. cniza 8 June 2020 20: 53 New
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                  There the list is very long and modern Bender does not sleep at all ...
                  1. rocket757 8 June 2020 20: 59 New
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                    Comrade Bender's "colleagues" act quietly, systemically! we can never know about them! But the others are sometimes CATCHED and PRATED publicly, Schaub was not disturbed by system mates, and something can be attributed to them ....
                    1. cniza 8 June 2020 21: 01 New
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                      Little, I would like more, but alas ...
  9. fif21 8 June 2020 13: 45 New
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    This is the revenge of a smart woman for the boorish behavior of Trump. laughing Trump demands that Russia be returned to the club of sixes in the United States, and only a woman can do it. The resources spent on confrontation with Russia in no way contribute to the growth of the EU economy. No war! Yes to business! Simple and clear formula. hi
    1. dauria 8 June 2020 14: 23 New
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      No war! Yes to business! Simple and clear formula.


      The formula is even simpler: "war is one form of business." At least from the dismantling of reteters for the collective farm market, at least the struggle of the economies of the countries.
      Even from the classics "Politics - a concentrated expression of the economy", "War - the continuation of politics"
  10. Brturin 8 June 2020 13: 50 New
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    Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe

    And the “cutie” Trump is straightforward to Europe ... it’s already reached the lobster - “If the European Union does not immediately abolish this duty [on American lobsters], then we will introduce duties on their [European] cars, which will be equivalent to <. ..> "
  11. Gardamir 8 June 2020 14: 00 New
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    Still, you need to learn how to write headlines.
    Let's just say from the article that the deputy is pro-Russian, for the unification of Russia and Germany. From the heading, it seems that the deputy is against the friendship of Russia and Germany.
  12. iouris 8 June 2020 14: 08 New
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    Africa cannot be colonized, but the BSSSR remains.
  13. Ramzes iv 8 June 2020 14: 19 New
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    In particular, the German deputy recalls the years when relations between Russia and the West were good, but they were good from the point of view of the West. At that time, the Russians felt humiliated. Despite all kinds of summits, meetings, smiles and handshakes, in Russia there was an opinion that the West insidiously took advantage of the weaknesses of the Soviet Union and, later, Russia, to achieve its goals that harm the interests of our country

    I like to read such sayings of the Aks from the west. They sing rightly so sweetly and correctly .. And before why were the bastards silent? negative
    They want to calm the angry Russian bear .. Well, well!
    Too late ! hi Stripping will begin soon ..
    Many liberties escaped, but some stayed .. negative
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 26 New
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      They chopped Vitaly, from the word at all.
  14. gabonskijfront 8 June 2020 14: 21 New
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    A confrontation with the West is very productive for Russia, on this path we have created a great country over and over again, but any kind of establishing relations ended in collapse. Only mutual distrust and upholding our selfish interests will lead us to mutual understanding.
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 25 New
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      Somehow it is tricky, but in fact everything is correct.
  15. Junior Private 8 June 2020 14: 22 New
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    Quote: The same Lech

    What prevents Germany from establishing this dialogue without setting unacceptable demands of Russia ... they have imposed sanctions against us and still talk about dialogue ... these are false identities.

    This is such an old worn diplomatic device. To put forward conditions / requirements that are known in advance that they will not be accepted by the other party. But then you can scream at every corner: "We are with Russia with all our souls, and she ...". Diplomacy in itself is not always pure occupation. And democratic negotiation processes are sheer lies and filth.
  16. Karaul73 8 June 2020 14: 26 New
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    Quote: Threaded Screw
    Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe
    Is Russia destabilizing Europe ???
    As an example, he mentions the constructive actions of the USSR in the 70s, which ultimately led to detente in relations between NATO countries
    So now it’s NATO already in Ukraine and Georgia, and then what?

    Oh, you better not know. You’ll sleep badly.
  17. Operator 8 June 2020 14: 30 New
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    What kind of "constructive" dialogue is possible between the largest nuclear power in the world and the trifle pot-bellied type of Europe - the Sodomites, gone from Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic States and Transcaucasia.

    And afterwards we’ll talk from the standpoint of strength as the only winners in the Cold War (taking into account the American Spring, of course).
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 24 New
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      You wrapped it abruptly, but there is something in it.
  18. Lord of the Sith 8 June 2020 14: 31 New
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    To begin with, all these butts were before, and now, in fact, with the Soviet Union and the United States. Europe, although at a Yankees dance, is somehow friends with Russia, because they understand that the Yankees are far away, and Russia is close.

    And these nice conversations are nothing more than business negotiations.
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 23 New
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      Quote: Lord of the Sith


      And these nice conversations are nothing more than business negotiations.


      And they must go on.
  19. lubesky 8 June 2020 15: 07 New
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    No need to be an expert to draw such conclusions. Friendship with the former Chancellor and the Italian with the West did not bring us closer. The introduction of the Chancellor to the board of directors did not bring it closer. However, this goal was not set, but the German attempt at independence in the gas issue is quite a tactical result.
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 22 New
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      It is necessary to use any opportunities.
      1. lubesky 8 June 2020 15: 27 New
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        I agree, especially in the absence of a national long-term strategy
        1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 48 New
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          If the Germans decided and expelled the United States from their country, everything would have changed a lot.
          1. lubesky 8 June 2020 15: 52 New
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            Firstly, it will cost enormous resources for the Germans, secondly, this will require a great willful decision by the majority of Germans, thirdly, from our rich history, we simply will not be allowed to get closer to Germany
            1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 55 New
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              Quote: lubesky
              thirdly, from our rich history, we simply will not be allowed to get closer to Germany


              Yes, their task is to constantly pit us, if we unite with the Germans, the end is to the West, and they perfectly understand this.
  20. Knell wardenheart 8 June 2020 15: 09 New
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    We still listen so carefully to the on-line demagogy from the EU, as if it was a sermon by Jesus Christ. They have not said anything relevant to us for a long time.
    1. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 22 New
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      And what is someone waiting for? In my opinion, all the points have been placed for a long time.
  21. cniza 8 June 2020 15: 21 New
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    Erler believes that Russia's current policy is aimed at destabilizing Europe, which upsets him very much.


    And was he a specialist in Russia?
  22. nobody111body 8 June 2020 15: 57 New
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    laughter - a coup in Ukraine began when the affairs of the Jews with Assad in Syria were inhibited; but the link Libya + Yugoslavia worked out with a bang; they destroyed Kadafi quickly; for quite some time they got muddled with a bunch of Lebanon + Afghanistan, but they grabbed Arafat and the next one among the Jews on the agenda of Ayatollah, but it’s worth it
  23. Klingon 8 June 2020 16: 26 New
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    I wonder why Germany is not offended by Italy? Rome at one time conquered all of Germany and gave it a name, making it part of its empire and the Germans - vassals
    1. tacet 8 June 2020 17: 24 New
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      1. not all - only part
      2. In the 12th century, the Germans made the Italians the Italians.
  24. Gennady Fomkin 8 June 2020 16: 41 New
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    In 2017, Gernot Erler left the Bundestag, and before that he was a deputy for 30 years. During the years of his political activity, he established himself as a specialist in Russia and Eastern Europe. When a German begins to talk about Russia, he turns into a fool. laughing Tyutchev: The smartest German, when he starts talking about Russia, will certainly be a fool.
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    Mr. Erler refers to the 70s, and his speeches are very reminiscent of the end of the 80s. Does he really think that we get up twice on the same rake?
  26. Normal ok 8 June 2020 19: 22 New
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    Erler gave a great interview to the German radio station Deutschlandfunk,

    It can be seen, like the former Chancellor Schroeder, marks a thread of a Russian company in the manager’s chair.
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      Something he was dumb, to see. It was necessary to give an interview on the "Russian Radio", and not in German. They’ll probably notice it and take it to Russian managers :)