The network discusses the topic of "nationalization" of the Norilsk Nickel company


The events that led to the spill of oil products in Norilsk and the environmental disaster were continued. One of them is reflections on the possible nationalization of Norilsk Nickel by Vladimir Potanin. The direction of the discussion is if Norilsk Nickel itself is not able to control the work of its companies and is unable to cope with an environmental disaster without the help of the Ministry of Emergencies, then the company has problems with management. Accordingly, the company could go into state ownership.


But not so simple. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said that “they haven’t heard anything about this in the Kremlin” and that “there is no theme for the nationalization of Norilsk Nickel.”

In the Agitprop program, Konstantin Semin indicates that many defenders of Vladimir Potanin, the first on the Russian Forbes list, came running. In the form of protection, more than strange arguments are presented in favor of Norilsk Nickel, either about global warming, which “flooded” the permafrost at TPP-3, or about the fault of the USSR, which did something wrong “in the north”.

Konstantin Semin:

Nothing will happen to anyone in connection with the accident. Well, was there anything to Chubais after the accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station?

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  1. Lexus 8 June 2020 14: 57 New
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    The network discusses the topic of "nationalization" of the Norilsk Nickel company

    To nationalize the losses, to eliminate the consequences of the disaster for public money, and then to privatize it again? Bravo! Applause!
    In the Agitprop program, Konstantin Semin indicates that many defenders of Vladimir Potanin, the first on the Russian Forbes list, came running.

    Now paid defenders of all with a surname “p” will also run into the VO and start screaming that we have “hpp” on everything.
    1. SRC P-15 8 June 2020 15: 05 New
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      But not so simple. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said “they haven’t heard anything about this in the Kremlin”

      Not surprisingly: the Kremlin did not immediately hear about the leak of diesel fuel in Norilsk Nickel, and even that from social networks! yes
      1. Lexus 8 June 2020 15: 12 New
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        Alexander, alas, we are already accustomed to the fact that they don’t see anything from the Kremlin, they don’t hear and carry anything. Old age, apparently, they are no longer in joy.
        1. SRC P-15 8 June 2020 15: 17 New
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          Quote: lexus
          Alexander, alas, we are already accustomed to the fact that they don’t see anything from the Kremlin, they don’t hear and carry anything.

          But I’m wondering: whose disadvantages flew away - Potanin or the Kremlin? recourse
          1. Uncle lee 8 June 2020 15: 30 New
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            Quote: SRC P-15
            whose disadvantages are these

            From the Kremlin Potanin! recourse
          2. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 39 New
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            The minus will be the population.
            You are aware that the amount of costs for damages is about 2% of Potanin’s profit for 19 year. That's just lake. Pyasina (whitefish and vendace supplies for the population of the okrug and Norilsk) for 10 years will certainly not restore the ecological balance.
            By the way, it’s interesting from which lake Norilsk feeds tap water (and the water there was excellent before!)
        2. Krasnoyarsk 8 June 2020 16: 12 New
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          Quote: lexus
          Alexander, alas, we are already accustomed to the fact that they don’t see anything from the Kremlin, they don’t hear and carry anything. Old age, apparently, they are no longer in joy.

          Is that really true? Did Peskov really say these words?
          If so, then woe to us woe.
        3. tank64rus 9 June 2020 15: 52 New
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          It turns out that our rule of law is contrary to common sense. Well, what is visible is true.
        4. Campanella 9 June 2020 22: 15 New
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          In their youth in the Kremlin they did not listen to anyone, they built their communism.
    2. Uncle lee 8 June 2020 15: 06 New
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      Exactly ! Something like that !
      1. Lexus 8 June 2020 15: 25 New
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        My picture below, of course, from the storeroom, RAO "UES" has long been safely stolen, and "little" is "working" in another, no less important / profitable direction, but its relevance has only increased. The thief is still not in prison, and the whole vast country is specifically “put to the counter”, with the exception of homies, of course.
    3. Malyuta 8 June 2020 15: 19 New
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      Quote: lexus
      Now paid defenders of all with a surname on "p" will also run into VO and they will start screaming that we have "hpp" on everything

      Sterkhozavisimy bunkeroman will be wondering for a long time why potanin poured 20 thousand tons of diesel fuel into the river, provided that CHP-3 runs on gas, in the sense of natural. belay
      Threat. all the same, it turns out that potanin is an American shpien? what
      1. Uncle lee 8 June 2020 15: 33 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        20 thousand tons of solariums

        So they have been flooded since the time of the seizure, and stood there until the tank flowed! belay
        1. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 05 New
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          Strange, but I thought that everyone is aware that standby generators are turning diesel engines ...
          Oh woe to me, woe ...
      2. Lexus 8 June 2020 15: 52 New
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        Sterkhozavisimy bunkeroman will be wondering for a long time why potanin poured 20 thousand tons of diesel fuel into the river, provided that CHP-3 runs on gas, in the sense of natural. belay
        Threat. all the same, it turns out that potanin is an American shpien?

        A colleague, well, who, if not you, should know that the gas department and its 125th motorcade have been stepping up fuel prices in Russia for a long time.))) And right now with the Norilsk accident, they, prices, once again, went up . The poses for “zeroing” are more conveniently deliberate.
        1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 16: 11 New
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          Quote: lexus
          A colleague, well, who, if not you, should know that the gas department and its 125th motorcade have been stepping up fuel prices in Russia for a long time.))) And right now with the Norilsk accident, they, prices, once again, went up . The poses for “zeroing” are more conveniently deliberate.

          Thank you, Comrade! I knew that there were enemies all around, but not to the same extent belay It is a pity that dear Vladimir Vladimirovich does not know all this repeat
          1. Lexus 8 June 2020 17: 14 New
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            It is a pity that dear Vladimir Vladimirovich does not know all this



      3. Mordvin 3 8 June 2020 16: 02 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        provided that CHP-3 runs on gas, in the sense of natural.

        Downloaded at low prices? It turns out that the Arabs spoiled us all the same?
        1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 16: 05 New
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          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Downloaded at low prices? It turns out that the Arabs spoiled us all the same?

          I always said that you can’t trust them and they still shit, directly into the river. Overlooked, damn it. no
      4. Golovan Jack 8 June 2020 16: 03 New
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        Quote: Malyuta
        Why did Potanin pour 20 thousand tons of solariums into the river, provided that CHPP-3 runs on gas, in the sense of natural

        For the gifted trolls:

        Norilsk CHP-3 runs on gas, diesel fuel is reserve for her
        Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2020/06/07/razliv-topliva-na-tec-3-v-norilske-pervye-itogi-proverok-ozvuchat-v-iyune
        1. Serg65 11 June 2020 12: 16 New
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          Quote: Golovan Jack
          For especially gifted trolls:

          Golovan, do not bother people from working, they have already paid for the order! Moreover, the liberals were ordered to patanin otmazyvat, and the "Communists" ordered all the arrows to transfer to Putin! Most of all I feel sorry for the ideological ones, it’s easiest to fool them and lead them to barricades under bullets instead of yourself .. also, Lexus ????
      5. AU Ivanov. 8 June 2020 18: 59 New
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        Diesel fuel is a reserve fuel for a thermal power plant in case of a gas outage. So in almost any power plant. The main fuel is gas or coal, and the backup fuel is boiler fuel oil.
        1. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 44 New
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          In the North, in the reserve, mainly diesel generators are frosts, you know, cruel ...
          1. AU Ivanov. 8 June 2020 20: 16 New
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            How do you replace DHA with CHP? CHP is not only electricity, but also hot water.
            1. hydrox 8 June 2020 20: 45 New
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              Without electricity, you know, no accident can be fixed.
              And in order to know this, in the North you need to visit at least once and see for yourself that even the smallest independent unit there has its own emergency diesel engine.
              And God forbid, if the commission from the district finds it faulty ...
    4. RUSS 8 June 2020 15: 21 New
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      No need to listen to the loser Semin, he was kicked out of the Russia 1 channel, now he mastered the Internet, and there he releases his non-professional videos. .
      1. Mordvin 3 8 June 2020 15: 56 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        No need to listen to the loser Semin, he was kicked off from Russia 1

        And what is there to watch? TV series about the Khatsapet milkmaids and Petrosyan laughable panoramas?
    5. Lannan Shi 8 June 2020 15: 24 New
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      Quote: lexus
      Nationalize losses

      But do not nationalize. It is necessary to confiscate. Nornickel went to potanin through a mortgage auction. Read through theft in especially large. Simply put, Norilsk Nickel is stolen property. And the stolen goods are only confiscated, but they are not nationalized or privatized in any way.
      Quote: lexus
      for people's money to eliminate the consequences of the disaster

      It seems that seized from potanin, after its landing, is enough to eliminate a dozen of these consequences. And still will be. Plus the property of all \, without exception, whose signatures are on the papers on the privatization of Norilsk Nickel. The crime is committed by a group of persons, by prior conspiracy. So, according to the Criminal Code, everyone should sit.
      But this is if you live according to the law, and not according to the concepts of a sun-faced one, playing the role of a godfather, supervising the common fund and ruining the life of Russia according to the rules of the zone ..
      1. Terenin 8 June 2020 20: 37 New
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        Quote: Lannan Shi
        But do not nationalize. It is necessary to confiscate. Nornickel

        Here I agree. They all grabbed it, taking advantage of the helplessness of the state and the venality of bureaucrats ...
    6. credo 8 June 2020 15: 44 New
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      Quote: lexus
      The network discusses the topic of "nationalization" of the Norilsk Nickel company

      To nationalize the losses, to eliminate the consequences of the disaster for public money, and then to privatize it again? Bravo! Applause!
      In the Agitprop program, Konstantin Semin indicates that many defenders of Vladimir Potanin, the first on the Russian Forbes list, came running.

      Now paid defenders of all with a surname “p” will also run into the VO and start screaming that we have “hpp” on everything.

      I don’t understand why it is necessary to nationalize when an environmental disaster just happened and you need to first think about something else and act differently, for example:
      - impose a ban on the withdrawal of the assets of Norilsk Nickel and its shareholders (Potanin, Abramovich and others) abroad,
      - assess the real amount of damage and transfer the case to court to recover it from the guilty legal entity and its owners,
      - to limit the use of Norilsk Nickel funds only for production activities and the elimination of damage,
      - others in the same vein of action.
      And only then offer nationalization. Maybe by that time the owners themselves would come to this thought.
      1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 15: 47 New
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        Quote: credo
        - to limit the use of Norilsk Nickel funds only for production activities and the elimination of damage,

        Do you have confidence that the Nornickel is not the property of Cyprus or the Order of Malta from Bermuda?
        1. Uncle lee 8 June 2020 15: 53 New
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          30,4% - the shares belonged to the president of the holding company "Olderfrey Holdings Ltd" Vladimir Potanin,
          27,8% - the company "Rusal" (UC Rusal) Oleg Deripaska,
          4,2% - Crispian Investments Ltd Roman Abramovich and Alexander Abramov
          The main shareholders of the company at the end of 2016 [17]:

          30,03% of the shares belonged to Vladimir Potanin's Interros holding,
          1. Malyuta 8 June 2020 16: 01 New
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            Quote: Uncle Lee
            30,03% of the shares belonged to Vladimir Potanin's Interros holding,

            Now I don’t understand at all how our dear Vladimir Vladimirovich could be friends with such a reptile as a bourgeois and a pest? request
          2. Mordvin 3 8 June 2020 16: 10 New
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            The question is where all these companies are registered.
          3. Lexus 8 June 2020 16: 16 New
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            Vladimir, assets owned by shareholders may well be managed by offshore companies. Well, if funds are withdrawn for a communal apartment without any problems, then these have no difficulties at all. And there they don’t violate the main American law, because the Russian hands are short, only they get to pensioners and pimple teens.
        2. Lexus 8 June 2020 16: 01 New
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          - impose a ban on the withdrawal of the assets of Nornickel and its shareholders (Potanin, Abramovich and others) abroad

          Do you have confidence that the Nornickel is not the property of Cyprus or the Order of Malta from Bermuda?

          Exactly! good It is very problematic to prohibit the conclusion of what has long been there.
        3. credo 8 June 2020 16: 05 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          Quote: credo
          - to limit the use of Norilsk Nickel funds only for production activities and the elimination of damage,

          Do you have confidence that the Nornickel is not the property of Cyprus or the Order of Malta from Bermuda?

          My and I think your confidence in the inevitability of punishment of the guilty should be based on the fact that any enterprise, regardless of its form of ownership and ultimate beneficiaries, operating in the territory of our homeland with you, must answer only according to Russian laws, which have priority over all laws of others countries of the world and international treaties. And the point.
          1. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 15 New
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            Here, in particular, Putin is in a hurry to declare the priority of Russian law over foreign, but the pence in the Constitution does not want to benefit: there is nothing about either welfare or guarantees ...
      2. Gardamir 8 June 2020 18: 10 New
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        a ban on the withdrawal of the assets of Nornickel and its shareholders (Potanin, Abramovich and others) abroad,
        Roman Abramovich, at the time of the general crisis, heartily shouted about himself to the whole world, having just bought at the Sotheby's auction the famous picture of the Norwegian artist Edward Munch “Scream” for $ 120 million.
    7. Krasnoyarsk 8 June 2020 16: 08 New
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      Quote: lexus

      To nationalize the losses, to eliminate the consequences of the disaster for public money, and then to privatize it again? Bravo! Applause!

      So and so the Ministry of Emergencies will eliminate the consequences, not Potanin. He does not have such services.
      And since the Ministry of Emergencies, then naturally for our account. Alas.
      And nationalization makes sense only when there is no question of subsequent privatization.
      1. unaha 8 June 2020 17: 27 New
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        Why at our expense? That's why there are fines from companies that caused the damage, that's how they took $ 20,8 billion from BP to compensate for the damage to the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico in 2010.
        Well, this does not take into account all our local Russian features.
        1. Krasnoyarsk 8 June 2020 20: 46 New
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          Well, this does not take into account all our local Russian features.

          Voot, the keywords are local Russian features.
          I also really want it to be the way you dream.
    8. antivirus 8 June 2020 16: 16 New
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      How is Alexander Stalevich doing? what does he see in such an oil industry?
    9. Nikolay87 8 June 2020 20: 29 New
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      Quote: lexus
      The network discusses the topic of "nationalization" of the Norilsk Nickel company

      To nationalize the losses, to eliminate the consequences of the disaster for public money, and then to privatize it again? Bravo! Applause!
      In the Agitprop program, Konstantin Semin indicates that many defenders of Vladimir Potanin, the first on the Russian Forbes list, came running.

      Now paid defenders of all with a surname “p” will also run into the VO and start screaming that we have “hpp” on everything.

      What is most terrible, you are right. But THIS will happen anyway, even if there are no such state of emergency, it is enough to simply become a loss-making company.
    10. DVR
      DVR 8 June 2020 23: 23 New
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      Now paid defenders of all with a surname “p” will also run into the VO and start screaming that we have “hpp” on everything.

      Yes, indeed, what can we talk about 116-FZ, production control, those appointed by order of those responsible for the operation of the hazardous industrial facilities, the actions of Rostekhnadzor inspectors during routine inspections, diagnostics and expert examination of industrial safety, the safety management system (if the class is higher than III), and statistics on accidents at fuel and energy facilities and man-made disasters in the USSR, Russia and the world as a whole and other things. The same accidents at oil depots (including those with the instant destruction of reservoirs) from the 60s will amount to tens and hundreds of victims. Touching on this topic, saw exclusive footage.
      It is definitely impossible to protect those responsible for what happened.
      Moreover, Guilty has already been appointed.
      I propose to think more broadly, comrades, and to consider laying the blame on Guilty (and his "friends") for the Chernobyl nuclear power plant (1986), the explosion of trains near Ufa (1989, 575 people), the Kurenev tragedy (1961 g., about 1,5 people.), although in 1961 he was still small, but we somehow know what he is capable of. The list goes on and on.
      Well, who, if not he, and the oligarch’s friends could do this?
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        Kurenev tragedy (1961, about 1,5 people)

        1.5 thousand people
      2. Nikolai Korovin 10 June 2020 12: 23 New
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        Well, a clear stump. I recall a joke of the 70s:
        Early in the evening, late in the morning! Early in the evening, late in the morning! What to do?! What to do?! - Uncle Volodya, at night! - (stroking the head) - That's right, Lenya! At night!
        So we know who ran around this tank with a grinder.
    11. Yngvar 9 June 2020 06: 34 New
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      Under current realities:
      1. Nationalization of Norilsk Nickel is a pipe dream.
      2. Potanin will not suffer in any way, from the word at all.
      3. The guilty party will be appointed from among the tech leaders, who were not given money for the repair (reconstruction, construction of a new one) of these capacities by the company’s financiers and economists (the iron capacity that it will have, then it makes no sense to spend on it. "fire!).
      4. Measures to restore the ecological balance will soon cease without normalizing, at least partially, the situation.
  2. lubesky 8 June 2020 15: 02 New
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    If our nationalization was a real nationalization - I am for all the limbs. But in fact, we just have a redistribution and change the sign. For example, they bought a controlling stake in Sberbank - and so what? I am silent about the progressive movements in the economy, but even in the Crimea, Sberbank will not appear.
    1. unaha 8 June 2020 17: 33 New
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      And what do you see the positive aspects of nationalization? Take half a trillion rubles of debt to the budget? Take all sanctions on the export-oriented company and close its markets? Or is there confidence in improving the quality of management, the appointment of managers on the basis of competence, and not proximity?
      1. lubesky 8 June 2020 17: 42 New
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        In short - margin control, reducing the cost of resources and energy within the country at times, leaving a high redistribution in private hands with control of the vacation margin. Give a huge impetus to the development of the economy, etc. But all this is useless without a comprehensive reform.
        1. unaha 8 June 2020 18: 23 New
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          “control margins, reducing the cost of resources and energy within the country at times” - well, all this happened already ... Everyone immediately forgets about lowering costs - why, everything is cheap and you can safely drain diesel fuel into the sea, into a ravine, sell it to private owners , scrap metal is everywhere and expenses in physical terms generally increase. It is impossible to pull out only part of the economy into socialism))). All either there or here.
          1. lubesky 8 June 2020 18: 31 New
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            But I didn’t talk about socialism and I didn’t talk about the state plan and state budget and I didn’t talk about command prices from the center. What I offer - we did not pass.
            1. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 22 New
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              Have you not passed the privatization of the electric power industry? Strange ...
              What, has the electricity become cheaper after privatization and is it time to nationalize it back?
              And how do you feel about the cost of heat in housing and communal services?
              1. lubesky 8 June 2020 19: 56 New
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                We are talking about the same thing, if you are commenting, read all posts
      2. lubesky 8 June 2020 17: 46 New
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        You better comment if 2% of the population produces 40% of the planet’s minerals, as you see the situation in the country, do you think you can do without a large redistribution and nationalization of production? Or are you a supporter of the idea of ​​NOT revising privatization
        1. unaha 8 June 2020 18: 27 New
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          I’m a supporter no matter what position (even if it’s bad at the moment), but stable! That is, so that neither legislation, nor the tax system, nor political situation changes at least for a significant period of time on a historical scale. Without predictability (it is better of course that predictability be with a positive sign) in general, development is unrealistic.
      3. lubesky 8 June 2020 17: 51 New
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        As if top management is competent now. I do not see the queue for our tops from behind the hill
        1. unaha 8 June 2020 18: 16 New
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          It is difficult to say how competent the current leaders are - I did not analyze (but yes, they can’t see the lines). However, in the case of nationalization, it probably will not get better. It is generally difficult to judge the quality of management of state corporations - they are not public, indicators are not particularly disclosed.
        2. The Siberian barber 10 June 2020 00: 52 New
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          "top" in our realities is based on a "legally" privatized legacy
          I did not write anything new.
          Managers from resources / production (what remains), even sports !! Apologists, answer, about really created (bridge one)
          All efficiency, as with beds in civilian hospitals, is a reduction.
          This spill, for me, has something in common with drowning, not without a well-known dock: yes, it was old) he is to blame!))
      4. lubesky 8 June 2020 18: 07 New
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        We can’t take half a trillion rubles to the budget, but can we give out trillions to the private banking sector for support?
        1. unaha 8 June 2020 18: 31 New
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          Well, somewhere above I wrote about the features of the national economy))) We have it ... where you need to make a profit - it’s so private right away, and where to write off the losses - state-owned.
    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 June 2020 23: 35 New
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      Quote: lubesky
      bought a controlling stake in Sberbank - and so what?

      This is not the nationalization of an asset, but the “privatization” (from the Central Bank to banks and beyond) of a part of the NWF spent on “buying” an asset from itself.
      People are thus deducing money from legal entities - “buying” services for their legal entity from themselves, only as from an individual (renting an office, personal car, etc.). The scheme is not tricky, it is used massively. Tax burden optimization is called.
      1. lubesky 8 June 2020 23: 42 New
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        I agree, I gave an example of sber - as a pseudo nationalization in my first post
  3. 210ox 8 June 2020 15: 03 New
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    Yeah. The Soviet legacy also has a resource. Especially now, when all this is mercilessly exploited by characters who have nothing to do with creation
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      Quote: 210ox
      have nothing to do with creation

      And yachts, more aircraft carriers, sports clubs and palaces in the warmest regions? repeat
      1. Mordvin 3 8 June 2020 15: 58 New
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        So they are in warm places.
      2. 210ox 8 June 2020 16: 14 New
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        Yes, even yachts the size of an aircraft carrier were not created by them, and not by us.
    2. Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 June 2020 00: 53 New
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      Quote: 210ox
      The Soviet legacy also has a resource.

      Such a reservoir for 40 years is usually designed, with the specified number of filling-emptying cycles not exceeded. At the CHPP - it was hardly exceeded; this is not required there. Maybe, of course, the tank itself has worn out, but maybe the soil conditions have really changed. With changing temperatures of permafrost soils, their bearing capacity changes significantly, and permafrost is now degrading everywhere on our ball. A pile in permafrost generally bears a shear strength on the surface of freezing with soil - here the dependence is directly complete on temperature. In this case, regular geocryological monitoring is required there, which costs good money.
    3. The Siberian barber 10 June 2020 00: 57 New
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      Quote: 210ox
      Yeah. The Soviet legacy also has a resource. Especially now, when all this is mercilessly exploited by characters who have nothing to do with creation

      These characters are called "effective manager")))))
      Nonsense unimaginable, wrapped in pathos (by the way, also management)
      ))))
      Yesterday's thimble, in the flea market, is also effective)))
      Other words, and ... voila !!!
  4. rocket757 8 June 2020 15: 10 New
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    It seems necessary to tighten the rules, laws and so on, for resources and the environment !!! But there is a fear that this will simply increase, fill the feeding trough for corrupt officials!
    I don’t want to remind about oak laws and fake execution.
  5. codetalker 8 June 2020 15: 50 New
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    The question, of course, is complicated. Requires expert review. Although the managerial opportunity for such a decision (nationalization) now exists. But there are no guarantees that the exact same leadership will not be lobbied through state bodies and appointed to the state enterprise. And on the other hand, good governance of the private sector can ensure the work of private organizations for the interests of the state and society. I think it’s important in this situation to restore order in the state administration of this growth. So that finally all sorts of oversight would begin to supervise, governors to work, and so on. This whole situation with Nornickel, of course, does not allow solving this problem at once, but a significant step forward can be made.
  6. lubesky 8 June 2020 16: 00 New
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    Oh, and weakly nationalize the whole "corporation" at once?
    1. Greenwood 8 June 2020 16: 43 New
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      And where to put top managers? Well, they are all friends-comrades themselves-you know-whom.
    2. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 52 New
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      Just try it!
      Well then from Russia, if the wet spot remains ...
      Their income is much larger than our defense budget.
    3. The Siberian barber 10 June 2020 01: 01 New
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      AND,..???
      Get the characters of well-known state corporations ???)))
      The question in the system, in principle, is probably
  7. credo 8 June 2020 16: 04 New
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    At the current stage of the accident results, nationalization will not be a panacea, but only an additional brake on solving the problem. Let's leave it for later when the owners themselves ripen.
    1. The Siberian barber 10 June 2020 01: 04 New
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      Ripen to what ???
      I honestly don’t understand what the leader of the monopoly should "ripen" with his hands, with a salary of millions))) is he "immature" what am I ???
      And then, if so, why is he there ???)))))
      It seems like not children, in terms of age
  8. fa2998 8 June 2020 16: 12 New
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    But is it interesting this year that the management of Nornickel will “award” billions of rubles to itself? Surely, they will say that we worked “already in the soap”, they will appoint the culprit (with the thermal power station), and let the Ministry of Emergencies and the army clean up the situation.
    Honestly assess the cost of the liquidation of the accident. And recover from Norilsk Nickel, through the court. With the seizure of accounts and a temporary moratorium on shares, etc.
    Well, “the president’s friend” will move Forbes from the first to the 3-5th place, he’s still stealing! hi hi
  9. Prisoner 8 June 2020 16: 41 New
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    After hacking in the Gulf of Mexico, no one analyzed. Let them clean and restore the ecosystem. The guilty will be jailed. Then they will analyze it. And God forbid they ask for money from the budget! And God forbid they will, having taken away pensioners, state employees and other unprotected layers of the population! Then it remains to multiply two by two, EPRST!
  10. Old Horseradish 8 June 2020 17: 02 New
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    Sooner or later they will nationalize anyway. Otherwise, the country will end up with such “effective managers” who took it for a penny, and billions were thrown to the West.
    “Norilsk Nickel is one of the most profitable enterprises in the world in its sector. Low costs help. And they manage to be kept low because the main investments were made before perestroika. The last major modernization was carried out in 1972, so wear fixed assets have already exceeded 70%.
    The need for large-scale reconstruction of Norilsk has been discussed for a long time. The plant itself, mines, thermal power plants, utility networks - all this is Soviet, they began to build under Stalin, and ended under Brezhnev. "

    "Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich acquired the most expensive villa in Israel for $ 65 million.
    Abramovich also owns a number of other real estate in Israel, including the Barsano Hotel in Tel Aviv.

    Earlier, the network published photos of the interior of the personal plane of the Russian oligarch. He owns three aircraft: the Boeing 737-700, the Boeing 767-300 and the Boeing 767-33A ER totaling about 400 million pounds. The latter is considered a favorite of Abramovich, he even has a nickname - "bandit."
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/02/villa
  11. Assyrian 8 June 2020 17: 03 New
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    Quote: credo
    My and I think your confidence in the inevitability of punishment of the guilty should be based on the fact that any enterprise, regardless of its form of ownership and ultimate beneficiaries, operating in the territory of our homeland with you, must answer only according to Russian laws, which have priority over all laws of others countries of the world and international treaties. And the point.

    Federal Law No. 116 "On Industrial Safety ....."
    All this is spelled out there. So tough that if God forbid ..... better hang yourself.
    And the President persuades him live to eliminate the consequences.
  12. Old Horseradish 8 June 2020 17: 12 New
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    Who is responsible for the environmental disaster of the North of Russia and the Arctic on a national scale? How many more trillions of dollars will be exported from Russia by “effective owners”. And how much more will we raise the West from our knees with Russia's resources?
    1. hydrox 8 June 2020 19: 57 New
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      Pets ...
  13. Shahno 8 June 2020 17: 17 New
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    Quote: Old Horseradish
    Sooner or later they will nationalize anyway. Otherwise, the country will end up with such “effective managers” who took it for a penny, and billions were thrown to the West.
    “Norilsk Nickel is one of the most profitable enterprises in the world in its sector. Low costs help. And they manage to be kept low because the main investments were made before perestroika. The last major modernization was carried out in 1972, so wear fixed assets have already exceeded 70%.
    The need for large-scale reconstruction of Norilsk has been discussed for a long time. The plant itself, mines, thermal power plants, utility networks - all this is Soviet, they began to build under Stalin, and ended under Brezhnev. "

    "Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich acquired the most expensive villa in Israel for $ 65 million.
    Abramovich also owns a number of other real estate in Israel, including the Barsano Hotel in Tel Aviv.

    Earlier, the network published photos of the interior of the personal plane of the Russian oligarch. He owns three aircraft: the Boeing 737-700, the Boeing 767-300 and the Boeing 767-33A ER totaling about 400 million pounds. The latter is considered a favorite of Abramovich, he even has a nickname - "bandit."
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/06/02/villa

    Last? Mr. Sterling ...
    By the way, who is it nearby?
    1. Greenwood 9 June 2020 03: 37 New
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      Quote: Shahno
      who is this nearby?
      Potanin.
  14. Campanella 8 June 2020 17: 24 New
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    What can I say effective private business. One of Forbes leaders showed himself in all its glory. And what can I say to create state property is one thing, and to create a business from scratch and bring it to a high level is another.
    Apologists for an effective private business have something to think about.
  15. Pvi1206 8 June 2020 17: 33 New
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    at least, it is necessary to fine the owners and managers of the company ... so that the people know who the power is in the country ... otherwise it will also be clear who the power is ...
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    First, he thinks up a stupid idea “a company could go into state ownership.”, Then they refute it.

    Of course, the oligarchs are inviolable. And what stir up something? For a state account, they will help to remove everything.
  17. Old Horseradish 8 June 2020 17: 45 New
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    Yes, you forget about the environment! Why do natives and Indians need ecology? Here is Roma Abramovich! - I bought a painting for $ 120 million. Moreover, the money earned honestly!
    You ask: "Why did Old Horseradish write about a picture of Roma on Military Review?"
    One picture of Roma is almost 60 T-90 tanks. Here a whole tribe of zombies howls together when one boat is put into operation. And here is 60! tanks with one picture. So I live like this. Two tank battalions of modern T-90 tanks! And this is from one picture. And if we ply his villa in Israel there, we get a clean tank regiment. This is arithmetic!
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      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Yes, you forget about the environment! Why do natives and Indians need ecology? Here is Roma Abramovich! - I bought a painting for $ 120 million. Moreover, the money earned honestly!
      You ask: "Why did Old Horseradish write about a picture of Roma on Military Review?"
      One picture of Roma is almost 60 T-90 tanks. Here a whole tribe of zombies howls together when one boat is put into operation. And here is 60! tanks with one picture. So I live like this. Two tank battalions of modern T-90 tanks! And this is from one picture. And if we ply his villa in Israel there, we get a clean tank regiment. This is arithmetic!

      never doubted the gdp team.
    2. Golovan Jack 8 June 2020 18: 37 New
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      Quote: Old Horseradish
      One picture of Roma is almost 60 T-90 tanks ... 60! tanks with one picture. So I live like this. Two tank battalions of modern T-90 tanks!

      You see, an old vegetable. Neither to you, nor even to Roma - they will not sell tanks, it is not due to you. And you look at the picture, and to what museum ... he will give a sort of ... it's me about Roma, old, not about you. Well, you, besides the old self, have nothing more for your soul. You, this, not from Latvians, an hour? wink laughing
      1. Old Horseradish 8 June 2020 20: 20 New
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        Golovan, you didn’t get tired of defending Potanin, and now you fit in with my beloved Roma. Are they there that they feed you with marinated bones? Where did you get such courage for the oligarchy then? The kennel is good and the marinated bones. Explain to the people.
        1. Golovan Jack 9 June 2020 01: 30 New
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          Quote: Old Horseradish
          Explain to the people

          I don’t see the people in front of me. I see a lonely horseradish. Old.

          No more request
    3. The Siberian barber 10 June 2020 01: 11 New
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      Bitter analogies about the fleet ... (((
  18. mark1 8 June 2020 19: 36 New
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    Who in the subject - why at CHPP-3 as a backup fuel for diesel fuel, why did you not like fuel oil, is it too cheap?
    1. hydrox 8 June 2020 20: 35 New
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      Diesel generators do not drive on fuel oil ...
    2. Terenin 8 June 2020 20: 45 New
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      Who in the subject - why at CHPP-3 as a backup fuel for diesel fuel, why did you not like fuel oil, is it too cheap?

      Firstly, the reception, storage and use of fuel oil as a backup fuel leads to the inevitable cost of steam for its heating, which reduces the overall efficiency of the station.
      Secondly, in addition to the standard cleaning procedure using filters, it is necessary to get rid of fuel oil flooding, which requires the use of special equipment and additional economic costs.
      Thirdly, the cleaning of storage tanks, as well as the direct burning of fuel oil, is accompanied by a considerable amount of pollutant emissions into the atmosphere, to reduce which the installation of additional elements is required.
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        Quote: Terenin
        storage and use of fuel oil as a backup fuel leads to the inevitable cost of steam for its heating, which reduces the overall efficiency of the station.

        Those. (in the far north) is used arktic diesel fuel? belay
        Quote: Terenin
        Secondly, in addition to the standard cleaning procedure using filters, it is necessary to get rid of fuel oil flooding, which requires the use of special equipment and additional economic costs.

        Those. diesel fuel is not flooded?
        Quote: Terenin
        Thirdly, the cleaning of storage tanks, as well as the direct burning of fuel oil, is accompanied by a considerable amount of pollutant emissions into the atmosphere, to reduce which the installation of additional elements is required.

        Yes, yes, but the fuel is reserve, i.e. all this "trouble" occurs relatively (and very relatively) rarely, exclusively in an emergency situation with the main fuel.
        It’s not convincing, though ... It’s been a long time since I worked at the CHPP, something may have changed without me and the solarium has become economically better than fuel oil (although even the A-92/95 will be cheaper)
  19. sagitch 8 June 2020 21: 09 New
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    I wonder what should happen to revise the results of the privatization?
    1. DNS-a42 9 June 2020 08: 04 New
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      Soviet power should happen)
  20. pogis 8 June 2020 21: 54 New
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    But I’m wondering how to collect from the soil and water 300 railway tanks solariums? Collected as long as 3.
  21. nikvic46 9 June 2020 16: 54 New
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    Nationalization is out of the question. To do this, you must have a state bank. It simply is not. All banks are conditionally state-owned. If you read the charter of the Central Bank, you can see how it was independent, and remained so.
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      In the 17th, no one heard about banks at all ... They will drive the situation under that tracing paper, the Kremlin’s undergraduates ...
  22. Campanella 9 June 2020 22: 19 New
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    All enterprises obtained as a result of Chubais privatization should be returned to the state without any payments to the "owners".
    And the government should nevertheless determine the guidelines by coordinating them, and not amendments to the constitution. And already on the basis of public rather than edrosovsky consensus to adopt the Constitution.