Czech Republic exchanges domestic self-propelled howitzers for French

The Czech armed forces will adopt French 155-mm / 52 caliber CAESAR self-propelled howitzers on a wheeled chassis. This was stated by Czech Minister of Defense Lubomir Metnar. A contract for the purchase of new howitzers may be signed before the end of the year.

The Czech Ministry of Defense decided to purchase French CAESAR howitzers, which should replace the Dana 52 systems in the Czech army. It is also specified that howitzers purchased by the Czech Republic will be carried out on a Tatra T815 chassis with an 8x8 wheel arrangement manufactured by the Czech company Tatra Trucks. In total, it is planned to order 52 CAESAR artillery systems with an option for another 12 self-propelled guns. In addition, the supply of two simulators and ammunition will be included in the contract price. Deliveries are provided for the period from 2022 to 2026.

The French company Nexter Systems produces CAESAR self-propelled howitzers on three chassis: Tatra T815 (8x8), Renault (Arquus) Sherpa 10 (6x6) (the main production version) and Unimog U2450L (6x6) (for the National Guard of Saudi Arabia). The CAESAR self-propelled gun version, performed on the Tatra T815 (8x8) chassis, was first introduced in 2015, and Denmark was its first customer.

The CAESAR self-propelled howitzer, executed on the Tatra T815 (8x8) chassis, has an armored cabin and a gross weight of 32 tons, equipped with a 8 hp Tatra V410 diesel engine. Calculation reduced to three people. The installation accommodates 30 rounds of ammunition (12 more than the self-propelled guns on a 6X6 chassis).

SAU CAESAR is currently in service with France, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Thailand. At the same time, the base chassis for CAESAR self-propelled guns is Renault Trucks Defense Sherpa 5 with a 6x6 wheel arrangement, all Saudi systems were made on the Mercedes / Unimog U5000 (6x6) chassis.

Comments

[svp67]

Czech Republic exchanges domestic self-propelled howitzers for French

They sailed ... how many centuries did Czech cannons serve the Austrians, Czechs and Slovaks, the Germans ... and then, that's all, "blown away"?

[Hermann]

The production where the Czechoslovak howitzers were produced Dana remained in Slovakia.

[Thrifty]

Hermann - as an option, buy equipment from Slovakia, or make a gun together! It’s cheaper to do than to pay uncle for the service of someone else’s equipment.

[Hermann]

So the Slovaks have a 155mm howitzer Zuzana, they offer it for export, in Cyprus there is.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Thrifty

German hi - as an option, buy equipment from Slovakia

Will they sell?
Slovaks work, make very adequate tools

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Thrifty

German hi - as an option, buy equipment from Slovakia

Will they sell?
Slovaks work, make very adequate tools

More than. I think ours took the idea of ​​their guns as a prototype of our promising self-propelled guns.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

More than. I think ours took the idea of ​​their guns as a prototype of our promising self-propelled guns.

"Eve"?

There are 12 shells in an automated loading system.
By the way, they made its unarmored three-axle version with the expectation of transportation by "Hercules". Which is pretty cool. Apparently, they were counting on an American order.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Spade

Quote: Aron Zaavi

More than. I think ours took the idea of ​​their guns as a prototype of our promising self-propelled guns.

"Eve"?

There are 12 shells in an automated loading system.
By the way, they made its unarmored three-axle version with the expectation of transportation by "Hercules". Which is pretty cool. Apparently, they were counting on an American order.

Yes, but we want a loader and a lightly armored turret.

[Lopatov]

There is an automatic loader.

[Zaurbek]

EU and wonderful procurement rules when your own defense industry does not have preferences.

[knn54]

"Dana" and the current Slovak "Zyuzana" have a serious drawback - the lack of the ability to load from the ground.

[Zaurbek]

Would make such a Coalition ..

[dvina71]

already experiencing.

[Zaurbek]

This is a more complex and expensive car ...

[dvina71]

Quote: Zaurbek

then a more complex and expensive car ..

Msta S already has a chassis .. and for the army the most ideal ..

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

Msta S already has a chassis .. and for the army the most ideal ..

Alas, I don't think so. Yes, tracked self-propelled guns, all the more we need, but now we really need to make all the towed artillery self-propelled and transfer to a wheeled chassis, like the same "Caesar" ... and this is a 105-mm self-propelled howitzer

3, THREE minutes, upon arrival, deployment, short fire attack, folding and departure ...

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

wheel chassis

Well .. ok .. The battery on the wheeled chassis got up .. let’s shoot .. let’s bum .. the 30mm bomber detached with the fugasikami and over the slope .. It seems that the damage is not great, but the wheels of that ... and quickly take your legs in any way. ., and the guard, meanwhile, sent coordinates to its arte ...
I’m all about the fact that the army chassis should be most not susceptible to military accidents, which very often affect the outcome of a battle, as well as a battle ..
If Che..in the Western armies it is now customary to promote combat passes .. Do we have a cheat on this? Who will be the liability?

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

I’m all about the fact that the army chassis should be most not susceptible to military accidents, which very often affect the outcome of a battle, as well as a battle ..

In this case, the security of these vehicles relies on light armor, high cross-country ability and high speed of movement on roads ..

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

high speed of movement on roads ..

Ie .. is this a weapon of retreat? Can you imagine the roads after processing them with a caliber of 152mm?

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

Ie .. is this a weapon of retreat?

Those. weapons with highly operational and maneuverable properties. And having them, you can very quickly concentrate artillery on the desired site, strike and quickly transfer to another site

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

quickly concentrate artillery in the desired area

Let's say ... the necessary site is located on a hill, which is surrounded on all sides by swamps, streams and very soft soil .. lowland in a word ... the only dorgaa .. ground, which after passing the first car becomes even less passable ... ponyash track. .
Let's ... concentrate ..

[V.I.P.]

Well, yes, but towed howitzers in this situation, of which a breakthrough in the Russian Federation, they are better than this, yes ???)))). The fact that Kamaz is rubbish is understandable. If they did on another chassis it would be better.
A lot of countries produce howitzers on a wheeled chassis. And many buy them.
How many have sold for money, but not for thanks, tracked Msta?

[dvina71]

Quote: V.I.P.

A host of countries produces howitzers on a wheeled chassis

Tell me a lot of countries that over the past decades have used barreled artillery in wars .. although they would .. although they would .. equivalent to the Russian / Soviet army?
Look, Italy has a wheeled tank .. and?

Quote: V.I.P.

towed howitzers in this situation

It depends on what you tow .. you can kamaz, and you can tracked conveyor ..

Well, so how is it with a concentration on the hill among the swamps?
Or will we be Jewish .. question to question?

[L-39NG]

CAESAR shot in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Mali. Saudi Arabia also took advantage.

[dvina71]

Quote: L-39NG

CAESAR shot

Shot ... how much? Battery? Division?
So for a second ... in Afghanistan, 443 artillery and mortar units were lost. And more than 2k units were withdrawn from Afghanistan .., they also left the Afghans worn out ..

In order to isolate and retain enemy gangs in certain areas, to exclude their maneuver, and also to prevent possible assistance to militants from outside, the regiment used fire blocking. For this purpose, barrage and concentrated fire was planned and conducted on the likely routes of maneuvers of the illegal armed formations and the approach of their reinforcements.

In particular, it was precisely this method of conducting artillery fire that was used in the area of ​​the Komsomolskoye settlement from March 4 to 19, 2001.

forces artillery regiment ..
But about the load on the regiment ..

For the entire time of the fighting as part of the combined group of troops (forces), the regiment completed over one and a half thousand fire tasks, spending about fifty thousand shells on it. It turns out that each barrel guiding on average fired from 2 to 3 thousand shells

[Lopatov]

Quote: L-39NG

CAESAR shot in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Mali. Saudi Arabia also took advantage.

That's for sure, shot.
For example, in Afghanistan, how many were there? Four or six?

By the way, Caesar is not particularly suitable for use in local conflicts, he is a "old-style" system, when there is a pronounced line of contact.

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

Well, so how is it with a concentration on the hill among the swamps?

The answer has already been given to you ... There is nothing complicated and beyond natural in this

[Lopatov]

Quote: V.I.P.

Well, yes, but towed howitzers in this situation, of which a breakthrough in the Russian Federation, they are better than this, yes ???))))

It is intended.
Even much simpler "cornflowers" are sometimes quite buggy.
And there were a lot of approaches to the guns firing at the preliminary roll of the barrel. But not one came to the series.

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

And there were a lot of approaches to the guns firing at the preliminary roll of the barrel. But not one came to the series.

Well, God bless them that we won't have other systems, the same NONA, PAT ... yes "Hyacinth", MSTA ... any system can be taken as a basis, but abandon the heavy, in this case unnecessary armored tower , which will greatly change the weight of the system, towards its reduction

[Lopatov]

Quote: svp67

but abandon the heavy, in this case unnecessary armored turret, which will greatly change the weight of the system, in the direction of its reduction

..and limit the capabilities of the system.
By making it much more vulnerable to art. enemy fire.

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

By making it much more vulnerable to art. enemy fire.

How? Do you think that the KamAZ wheeled chassis is capable of withstanding it. That is, this wheeled ACS will be destroyed in any case, whether it has an armored turret or not, but so, without such a "dead weight", its speed and cross-country ability will increase.

[Lopatov]

Quote: svp67

Do you think that the KamAZ wheeled chassis is able to withstand it.

No.
A more adequate chassis.

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

No.

Then what is the argument about the armored tower? On this particular chassis it is not needed ...

Quote: Spade

A more adequate chassis.

Now, if it appears, then we'll see ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: svp67

Now, if it appears, then we'll see ...

At the moment, it is not a fact that self-propelled guns on a wheeled chassis will appear at all

[svp67]

Quote: Spade

At the moment, it is not a fact that self-propelled guns on a wheeled chassis will appear at all

Here I am more inclined that the fact. In our country, especially recently, they began to follow the "world" tendencies more than to set their own.
So, I’m more confident in their appearance, if only for the purpose of selling abroad, and for this she must be in our army

[nekromonger]

everything is right, they are again preparing for the past war.

[saigon]

Well, towed ones have one advantage - cheaper.
Mobility is certainly beautiful, but only if we take into account the road where it was decided to drive, all the artillery on wheels is not correct.

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

Let's ... concentrate ..

Milchelovek, have you ever heard about the engineering troops and the equipment that they have on equipment. When carrying out any operation, the head of the engineering service is tasked with preparing various entrance routes, roadways, column tracks. This time. Answer yourself for what technique is it easier to prepare such paths for tracked forty-ton vehicles or wheeled twenty-ton vehicles? These are two. And yet, you somehow understand in a peculiar way the meaning of concentrating artillery to solve the necessary fire mission. This does not mean driving her down on one heel in order to inflict a fire blow from there. This means that there can be and will be many such "heels", the main thing is that the firing range of a particular system would allow this task to be performed from them, and then the task of starting with his officers, they calculate the start and end times of firing and all the initial data for firing ...
So that there will be a specific task, to solve it, we will decide how and where to concentrate artillery. They did, we know.

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

Milman, have you heard anything about the engineering troops and equipment that they have on the equipment

Sweetheart ... how does engineering support combine with very fast concentration in a particular area?

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

Sweetheart ... how does engineering support combine with very fast concentration in a particular area?

And so the man is that any action is prepared and practiced in advance, if you think like a movie Chapai, then these are your problems, any military operation is being prepared. The artillery strike, for the sake of the artillery strike is not carried out, it pursues certain tasks and goals.

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

And so the man

Well, she’s already good .. you look like my wife .. when she feels that there are no arguments in the dispute .. begins to bustle and sculpt a hunchback)))
Preparing for a quick focus in a certain area in advance ... seriously?
Already during the Great Patriotic War, it became clear .. any hint of the presence of artillery immediately becomes the object of close attention ... they built false positions, carefully concealed the real ones ... For this they put artillery on the chassis .. so that where the position was there. ., and the tracked chassis has a higher passability ..

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

That's why they put artillery on the chassis ..,

You do not even live in the 20th, but in the 19th century ... They put artillery on a caterpillar chassis so that it could go right behind the tank units and support them with fire, since the towed vehicle simply did not have time to do it.

Quote: dvina71

Well, good already .. you look like my wife ..

Do we know each other ...? I have no sisters, no ... Strange you are.
Would you like me to compare you with anyone? But turn this comparison will not be in your favor, even my cat is more competent in those issues that he is trying to solve ...

Quote: dvina71

the crawler chassis has a higher passability ..

Yes, but wheeled chassis have made a huge leap forward in this, and besides, they are much cheaper. Can you answer why, with all the positive qualities of tracked self-propelled guns, they did not rearm all artillery on them? I will tell you that because of the high price, both production and operation.
But and last, show those where I deny the need to have tracked self-propelled guns, I started this whole conversation with the fact that now there was a need to transfer TOWED artillery to a wheeled self-propelled chassis, of different payloads from light to heavy, the main thing is to increase the speed of their maneuvering

[Bad_gr]

Quote: svp67

there was a need to transfer the towed artillery to a wheeled self-propelled chassis of various carrying capacities from light to heavy, the main thing is to increase the speed of their maneuvering

I support this opinion. Namely "TOWED artillery",
and not adapting what was done under the tracked chassis. Variants of the "CAESAR" type are quite a viable system, but to sculpt a tower from a caterpillar "coalition" on a KAMAZ chassis, I think, is a dead-end branch.

[svp67]

Quote: Bad_gr

But to mold a tower from a caterpillar "coalition" on a KAMAZ chassis, I think, is a dead-end branch.

We have already discussed this with Lopatov, and in terms of this basic chassis, he agrees too ...

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

track understand ..

And about gaty, fascin you had to hear something? And I strongly doubt that within a radius of a dozen kilometers it will be impossible to collect sites and dirt tracks ... You are like a child, by God ...

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

And about gaty, fascin you had to hear something?

Oh .. don’t tell me about how to move on soft ground .. It's difficult and slow .. Again the same question .. How does this fit with a very fast concentration?
There is no question for me how this will be done by the equipment on the caterpillar highway .. but the unit load of the wheeled chassis will be several times greater. Which naturally affects the passability .. And drag an engineering battalion behind each division .. for what?

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

How does this combine with very fast concentration?

How strange you are. This allows you to get there quickly and without getting stuck.

Quote: dvina71

And to drag an engineering battalion behind each division .. for what?

You are somehow strange. Apart from wheeled divisions, in any part of another completely different wheeled vehicles, these roads, in particular, will be built for it ... without this, there will be no timely transportation of material resources

Quote: dvina71

how the technique will do on the caterpillar highway ..,

I know from experience that in such a terrain, without preliminary preparation, she will do no better, or even worse. If the truck can still be pulled out with the same tank, then the caterpillar equipment often has to be pulled out with the deployment of chain hoists, which is quite a long time.

[dvina71]

Quote: svp67

This allows you to get there quickly and without getting stuck.

Where? Where is there? Tatara. 4 axles. 8 wheels .. Dan's weight is 52 - 30t .. 4 tons per wheel .. and the contact spot is several times smaller than that of a crawler chassis .. YOU are arguing with obvious things .. caterpillar chassis .., with equal weight. I'm not talking about the maximum angles of slopes and the maximum angles of elevation ...

Quote: svp67

You are somehow strange. In addition to wheeled divisions, in any part is completely different other wheeled vehicles, these roads, in particular, will be built for it ...

You are not? We are talking about combat use .. in the context of counter-battery combat. And you propose to lay to the gati positions ..
Obviously, the caterpillar chassis gives a greater choice of firing positions .. and less tied to the conditions of the area .., which means it increases survival ..

Quote: svp67

If the truck can still be pulled out with the same tank,

A truck weighing 30t .. you don’t pull out any tank yet .. only a winch system with many blocks .., work for several hours ... Good mobility .. and a log like a goose will not help ..

[svp67]

Quote: dvina71

We are talking about combat use .. in the context of counter-battery combat.

You pour smart words, not even fully understanding their meaning ... but you heard about the artillery preparation of the offensive, advancement, accompaniment of the offensive and advancement in depth, as well as about fire obstruction of advancement and deployment ... and so on and so forth?

[Grits]

Quote: dvina71

Let's say ... the necessary site is located on a hill, which is surrounded on all sides by swamps, streams and very soft soil .. lowland in a word ... the only dorgaa .. ground, which after passing the first car becomes even less passable ... ponyash track. .
Let's ... concentrate ..

So, you need to have two types of vehicles in the artillery unit - wheeled and tracked. And depending on the task, choose one or another type of machine.
Based on your introductory note, I would naturally choose tracks. And on wheels held it until the moment when you can quickly push artillery along the track, hit and knock back.

[dvina71]

Quote: Gritsa

So, you need to have two types of vehicles in the artillery unit - wheeled and tracked. AND

I think not on a wheeled ... too defective, from a military point of view, chassis. There is a special caterpillar dt-10 and dt-30 .. the cost is at the level of 8x8 wheeled chassis ... but ... At least the road, at least the swamp, at least the crossing .. no means at hand and engineering support ... In fact .. point I poked it on the map and moved out there ... Arctic airplanes were installed on them ..., you can put 152mm, the carrying capacity and size of the platform allow.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: svp67

Those. weapons with highly operational and maneuverable properties. And having them, you can very quickly concentrate artillery on the desired site, strike and quickly transfer to another site

Artillery is, first of all, "maneuver with fire", not "maneuver with wheels."

[svp67]

Quote: pmkemcity

Artillery is, first of all, "maneuver with fire", not "maneuver with wheels."

Now, without the "quick maneuver with wheels" function, artillery becomes DISPOSABLE, which means it is not needed. The means of armed struggle on the battlefield made a sharp leap forward in the field of attack ...

[Klingon]

and if the counter rotate 30mm subcaliber? or both? after all, in cannons on the tops, selective nutrition and the type of ammunition can be chosen, and the tower of that and the caterpillar will be ragged .. so what is it ..
and in general, if VERTUKHA arrives, then according to custom it will crash first with NURSES, who will bother out of a 30mm bundle there? and (or) ATGM will launch .. or did you play DCS on Apache?

[lucul]

Well .. ok .. The battery on the wheeled chassis got up .. accelerated .. let's shoot .. Then bam .. 30mm anti-shatter gun detached and over the slope ..

Do you think the wars in the 21st century will continue to be trenches? ))) After all, under the trench wars, the towed artillery was designed ....
War of the future is war of drones. It’s like tank wedges for the 30-40s, and some people emphasized cavalry in those years.
The analogy is direct .....

[dvina71]

Quote: lucul

After all, it was under the trench wars that towed artillery was designed ....

Yes? Something tells me that there wasn’t four of a kind .. in large numbers they went to each other .., and the artillery was already towed in the wagon train ..

Quote: lucul

War of the future is war of drones

While the basis of the computing complex is on-off computers .. there will be no drone wars ..
Maybe some place will be taken by remotely controlled systems, but the reaction time .. under the serious influence of air defense .., starting with the same MANPADS and detection stations .. some UAVs will not go into battle .. and everything will return to the good old barrel artillery when performing precision strikes and MLRS in the area ..

Quote: lucul

This is like tank wedges for the 30-40s, and some people emphasized cavalry in those years .....

Actually ... the cavalry took part in the Berlin operation ... we must not focus, but competently apply the available means ..

[Lopatov]

Quote: svp67

and such a 105 mm self-propelled howitzer

The Americans abandoned it, because it is expensive, difficult and unreliable. Gave India as a bonus on the M777
Together with 155 "Brutus" of a similar design

[Oleg Zorin]

I’ll tell you, as a mortar to the gunner, the departure is too long. Shooting, the position must be left much faster

[nedgen]

Can't Americans understand what a normal semi-automatic shutter could not do? And a unitar for a howitzer is not such a blessing. Cannot be varied by charges

[Lopatov]

Quote: nedgen

And a unitar for a howitzer is not such a blessing.

There is no unitary. The charge is variable.
Just at first they put a shell into the shell, and then they send it to the gun.

[Lopatov]

Here it is clearly visible.
Pay attention to the axis of the projectile and the axis of the sleeve. They do not match.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: Spade

Here it is clearly visible.

Sorry for the tactless question - what kind of footcloths do they tear from shells and throw to the ground?

[Lopatov]

Quote: pmkemcity

Sorry for the tactless question - what kind of footcloths do they tear from shells and throw to the ground?

This is the additional charges in the bags.
Apparently, this is how they control the correctness of completing the charge - "footcloths are ripped off" by the gun commander.
Otherwise, the gifted soldier will leave an extra bundle in the sleeve, and the projectile will fly away not into the "cauldron" of the landfill, but with a flight to the farmer's land. Who will definitely not be happy.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: Spade

This is the additional charges in the bags.

He throws them to the ground. There is sand, mud, all kinds of straw ... Then he "forgets" and leaves, to the delight of the kids, or is it all somehow used?

[Lopatov]

Quote: pmkemcity

He throws them to the ground. There is sand, mud, all kinds of straw ... Then he "forgets" and leaves, to the delight of the kids, or is it all somehow used?

They don’t know.

They usually burn us so playful little hands do not get there. Not just kids.

Although it should be returned with capping and sleeves

[APASUS]

Quote: svp67

3, THREE minutes, on arrival, deployment, short fire raid, folding and departure.

This is if you make a provocation, come to shell the market for example, and since the crew is not protected at all, in combat conditions one response shell is enough to put this tricky crew

[Klingon]

so it's not even a howitzer but a 105mm mortar !? only loading from the breech

[Lopatov]

Quote: Klingon

so it's not even a howitzer but a 105mm mortar !?

??
Howitzer.

This is a very cool, expensive and complex tool.
A shot from which occurs during the roll of the barrel. That is, returning it after a rollback. Thus, the recoil energy is partially utilized. That allows you to install the howitzer on light chassis.
It is somewhat similar to Cornflower, but it is not the trunk assembly that is moving there, but only a massive shutter. And still the system is complicated.

[Klingon]

Thanks, I didn’t. thought about the mortar because of the short barrel

[Mavrikiy]

The Czech armed forces will adopt the French CAESAR 155-mm / 52 caliber self-propelled howitzers on a wheeled chassis. This was stated by Czech Minister of Defense Lubomir Metnar.

And the wind in their back. But if there is still a loan from France for the acquisition, then "do with it what you like" Such a sky is blue .... Another 100 years with its national howitzers in the Tatras would have lurked, and sho?
And sho Lithuanian cinema seem to us? Ah, they are now in NATA responsible for the wipes, well, you always want to eat.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

But the Czech Republic, once ranked among the top five in arms exports.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

But the Czech Republic, once ranked among the top five in arms exports.

I’ll tell you a terrible secret, only no, no .... It will always be there, because Skoda arms factories are a forge of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, 150 years ago, the organization of 1859, and the continuation of affairs,

In 1899, a joint-stock company emerged from an ever-expanding enterprise, and in the period before the First World War, the Skoda plant became the largest arms factory in Austria-Hungary.

Maybe the gold of the Republic of Ingushetia has contributed to the development ... But it was not for nothing that the Poles cleaned up the "Teshin volost".

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

So sure, but not for long .

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

So sure, but not for long .

So sure, but not yet evening. Americans can give the whole Czechs to the Poles, without Munich. Watch your hands. the circus is still the same and although the magician is drunk, there are enough firecrackers in his pants.

[L-39NG]

As for the gold, you will ask the commissars to whom the gold was transferred for free passage home, and Admiral Kolchak not only encouraged his army with beautiful promises. And also, in 2010, the Mir micro-submarines found at the bottom of Lake Baikal, at a depth of 420 meters, shiny objects that looked like gold bars.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: L-39NG

Regarding gold, you ask the commissioners

These commissars have long been in the land, and you seem to have exclusive info. Only for God's sake do not share. Let the sweet grains of omniscience give you exclusive pleasure.

[L-39NG]

Not the Czech Republic, but Czechoslovakia. After the division into the Czech Republic and Slovakia, the company that produced the artillery systems remained in Slovakia. They offer modernization and caliber change by 155 mm, but the French barrel’s potential turned out to be large and the price is lower than that of the new Slovak ZUZANA. The Frenchman has a longer range, 42 km standard HE EFRB and 55 km special shells. A wide range of projectiles used, for example BONUS Mk II (Nexter Systems). France will supply the trunks, the rest will be both assembly and assembly will be done in the Czech Republic.
And the export of military material is such that it’s a sin to complain.

[Lopatov]

Quote: L-39NG

than the new Slovak ZUZANA

You do not seem to own the information.
Their new system is called "Eva", it is cheaper than the French one and is ahead of it by a generation, being an analogue of the Scandinavian self-propelled guns "Archer"

[L-39NG]

There are no orders for Eve, because it exists only as a working demonstrator. Since 2015, it has been shown at exhibitions and this is limited to this. Slovakia itself cannot take them into service. They take Zuzana 2. Production of a limited series will be more expensive than buying trunks in France and picking up CAESAR SA in the Czech Republic, in addition, this is not the first joint development of Nexter Systems and Tatra Trucks. There is such cuttlefish - Titus.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: L-39NG

Limited edition production will be more expensive than buying trunks in France

It will be like with the Indians - "they took it into account, wept."

[Lopatov]

Quote: L-39NG

There are no orders for Eve, because it exists only as a working demonstrator.

..because they are clearly purposefully spread rot.
Otherwise, how to explain the complete lack of interest in the latest generation of cheap self-propelled guns?

[L-39NG]

Based on the modern concept of artillery "fired and fled" - within 90-100 seconds after the first shot, the CAO must withdraw from the firing position and move at least 300 meters from the firing position. Otherwise, the counter art will be destroyed. fire. "EVA" loses in rate of fire. PzH 2000, 20 rounds in 120 seconds. Archer FH77BW, 20 shots in 120 seconds. Caesar, 18 shots in 120 seconds. "EVA", 10 shots in 120 seconds. And due to the fact that there are enough orders for Caesar-Tatra, not only for the army of the Czech Republic, but more than half of the production will be at Czech factories, we will not remain at a loss.

[Lopatov]

Quote: L-39NG

Based on the modern concept of "shot and run" artillery

... the most common American 155 mm gun has no right to life.

Quote: L-39NG

"EVA" loses in rate of fire. PzH 2000

However, ahead of her generation.

Quote: L-39NG

PzH 2000, 20 shots in 120 seconds.

Game.
After this, the barrel is definitely a replacement

Quote: L-39NG

Caesar, 18 shots in 120 seconds.

Similarly.
In addition, the soldiers will quickly get tired. For "Caesar" loading is completely manual.

"Eva" is one or two generations ahead of the mentioned ACS.
Her "classmates" are "Archer", German "Donar" / AGM / RCH 155; American Crusader, NLOS-C and XM1299; Russian 2S35 "Coalition-SV"

[Viktor Sergeev]

There was only one question left: the Czechs have nowhere to put money or who the French had to put?

[Lech from Android.]

The Czechs change their orientation again ... What

Joy.)))

[aviator6768]

Happen. God forbid .... The trunks, ammunition, engines will be at the forefront ... And "we will buy everything and they will bring everything to us" - this is to the Guardians with the Maginot Line ... two weeks and there is no COUNTRY ...

[cat Rusich]

"... If tomorrow is on a campaign, if tomorrow is a war ..." - the Czech Republic will join NATO, or "Uncle Sam" will defend or the Czechs will surrender, they are no strangers, the experience of 1938-39 and 1968. The resource of the barrel will be enough for the entire war (unless, of course, the Centennial or not to shoot thousands of shells a day), the engine will "survive" the barrel and the calculation or a direct hit - then the "finish", the production of ammunition is a separate topic, if you are not "one warrior in the field "The ammunition will be delivered or the war will end earlier than the BC. France did not use up ammunition, the fighters did not end - the war ended in the heads of the generals and marshals of the French General Staff (De Gaulle was an exception), and the resource of the barrels was not exhausted and the ammunition did not run out ...

[Strashila]

"The calculation has been reduced to three people," cool, and on the video splash screen ... six.

[Baron pardus]

Excuse me, but who are interested, in the days of capitalism, the "invisible hand of the market" and democracy, such "anachronisms" as decency, success and development of their own industry and patriotism? The French gave someone on their paws, they decided to adopt the French self-propelled guns. Were there comparisons in times of trial? Accuracy, range, ease of maintenance, speed of deployment and folding of positions, rate of fire? If there were, they don't write about the results. Do you think the official cares about his own, Czech factories, workers, etc.? They gave him on the paw, or there they arranged their son as a consultant somewhere and he did not care about everything else. These are capitalism, market relations and democracy. And this happens EVERYWHERE, not only in India or the Czech Republic. It's the same in the USA. With the same arrow. On trials XM8, XK416 and SCAR-L made M4 like a tortoise god. So what? The guys from COLT brought whoever needed it, arranged someone as a "consultant" and that's it, we went into battle with the M4, which, by the way, has FOUR times more delays than XK416 and SCAR and 6 times more than XM8. They tried to say that they say "the troops are familiar with the ergonomics of the M4", but the ergonomics of the XK416 are the same. But all the same, it is not the tests that decide, but which of the arms companies how much "donated for the re-election" to various "respected people". This is CAPITALISM. This "market relations" is the "free hand of the market".

[Grits]

Quote: Baron Pardus

The guys from COLT brought whoever needed it, arranged someone as a "consultant" and that's it, our guys went into battle with M4

Interesting, and YOURS is who? And against whom did they go into battle?

[Ros 56]

That's right, it's time to close Czech factories, the sixes are not supposed to have their own production.

[pmkemcity]

Calculation reduced to three people

And at the end of the video, even the seventh in the frame lit up?

[1536]

Again, these Czech Poles are leading Europe to war.

[pmkemcity]

Quote: svp67

Now, without the function of "quick maneuver with wheels," artillery becomes DISPOSABLE, which means that it is not needed.

It was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines. In the conditions of general massacre there will be such chaos that it is the towed artillery, as it can survive the artillery attack "across the squares", will be the most tenacious. Plus, it can be towed by inexpensive labor.