The launch of the new generation Glonass-K satellite has again been postponed

The launch of the next navigation satellite of the new generation “Glonass-K” has been postponed again with the possibility of further transfer. This was reported by RIA News with reference to an informed source.

According to the interlocutor of the news agency, the launch was to take place from the Plesetsk cosmodrome in mid-July, but was postponed to the end of July due to delays in the production of the satellite itself. According to the plans, the delivery of the spacecraft to the spaceport was supposed to take place at the end of June. The launch of Glonass-K is planned to be carried out using the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle with the Frigate booster.

The launch was postponed to the end of July, tentatively on the 29th, but further launch transfer is not ruled out due to delays in satellite production

- the agency leads the words of the source.

Note that this is not the first transfer of the launch of this satellite "Glonass-K". Previously, the launch was planned for March, then in May, then at the end of June, mid-July, now at the end of July.

Recall that at present there are two Glonass-K satellites in orbit, the first of which was launched in February 2011, and the second in December 2014. At what one of them works, and the second passes tests. In February this year, the representative of the Reshetnev Information Satellite Systems enterprise, Roman Fatkulin, announced that nine Glonass-K spacecraft would be launched into space in 2020-2022.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Nowhere to rush. Run and screw up - much worse. Plesetsk is a military spaceport, they always have everything regularly ... satellites are another matter ...

[Bar1]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nowhere to rush. Run and screw up - much worse. Plesetsk is a military spaceport, they always have everything regularly ... satellites are another matter ...

just put off ten years, nowhere to hurry.

[KCA]

Do not tell me how many unsuccessful launches from Plesetsk were, well, for 20-30 years? The military has a little more control over all the stages of preparation and launch, they found one cant - they will check everything up to the cogs

[military_cat]

The satellite was put off due to sanctions on foreign components. And import substitution somehow did not work out, over the past 6 years only Angstrem-T went bankrupt. I think today even people with a very optimistic view of things can already state that modern aerospace electronics works only in international cooperation, and there is no other way.

[KCA]

Angstrom-T went bankrupt, but did not close, but where to go if the main partner is AMD? They’ll give Rostekha back and the process will go on, I won’t tell you about the entire aerospace, but I don’t have rockets, they test radio equipment, work in full swing, there’s no pandemic, almost every week testers and people in stripes come

[military_cat]

Quote: KCA

not rockets, but radio equipment

Yes, in air defense this is also clearly visible: the United States, China, Israel, and India are making systems with kinetic defeats that deliver an ultra-precise strike directly to the target without scattering a cloud of rods or fragments; this is a qualitative transition in guidance tools. Russia does not have such systems.

[RESEARCHER]

Here I read all your messages and that's what I think about. And not cover nafig and "Voennoye Obozreniye" and all other social services. networks at the same time. You look, and people will be drawn to work in the military-industrial complex again. Well, after that, of course, not immediately, but after a while everything will fly again where it is necessary and with what accuracy

[military_cat]

No need to be wise, people are drawn to where they pay, and they work well where it depends on the quality of their work whether they will continue to work in this place.

[strelokmira]

And not cover nafig and "Voennoye Obozreniye" and all the other social services. networks at the same time. You look, and people will reach for work in the military-industrial complex again

In order for the people to reach somewhere, it is necessary that there be places, and so please arrange 2 million unemployed

[RESEARCHER]

During the Great Patriotic War, no one paid much to anyone, and the people themselves reached out where they needed to. And he made the greatest feat in the history of mankind. And our enemies received much more, and they lived better than us.
Unfortunately, the best national features of our people are lost, which is a pity.

[strelokmira]

During the Great Patriotic War, no one paid much to anyone, and the people themselves reached out to

Now is not a war, and the thesis "work for free" sounds blasphemous

[RESEARCHER]

What a war. Sanctions, corruption, enemy NGOs, bureaucratic lawlessness, shyness of authorities and direct sabotage on the ground. And artificial intelligence is too stupid, and we hope for it, as manna from heaven. Oh, and the era of digitalization comes back to us.

[kjhg]

Quote: RESEARCHER

What a war. Sanctions, corruption, enemy NGOs, bureaucratic lawlessness, shyness of authorities and direct sabotage on the ground.

You would watch less than the evening brains, would protect your health and the health of your loved ones. War and sanctions are for the electorate. And for the masters of Russia - the most blessed time to increase their capital by stripping the people.
They would have climbed out of their trench already. It looks unpleasant when an adult allows himself to manipulate cunning uncles As you can’t understand, it’s just because of people like you that the existence of such a rotten system is possible.

[RESEARCHER]

Somehow it immediately became sad. Because the readers of "Military Review" who too bypass those who, in spite of the difficulties, work and do not whine at their fate. The audience here really reminds me of American blacks. In the sense that they just have a karmic grudge against their fate, and do not want to take their butt off their soft sofa and go to work. So you can wait your whole life for your Platoshkin or Grudinin and hope for quick changes.
You have almost no chances for "changes" in this way, dissatisfied gentlemen, but once again to destroy Russia, as you could once the USSR.
Flag in your hands and Roman Skomorokhov in fellow travelers.
I have the honor, gentlemen, comrades.

[Malyuta]

Quote: RESEARCHER

You have almost no chances for "changes" in this way, dissatisfied gentlemen, but once again to destroy Russia, as you could once the USSR.
I have the honor, gentlemen, comrades.

I am very sorry, but there is no desire to die with you under Putinism.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Malyuta

die with you under Putinism there is no desire

Your wish will come true - you will die separately. Since neither I, for example, nor my friends and acquaintances - that’s not a single time and no one — are not going to die at all

[Malyuta]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Your wish will come true - you will die separately. Since neither I, for example, nor my friends and acquaintances - that’s not a single time and no one — are not going to die at all, yes

I am very sorry, but I have the opinion that hating people is your only political credo

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Malyuta

I have the opinion that hating people is your only political credo

You wrote nonsense. Both in form and in essence. But it's not even about that: you, IMHO, interpret the term "people" too freely.

And so, scribes are not people, and I really do not like these a little ... for their arrogance and annoyance, in particular.

That's something like

[Malyuta]

Quote: Golovan Jack

You wrote nonsense. Both in form and in essence. But it's not even about that: you, IMHO, interpret the term "people" too freely.

Unfortunately, you have translated my opinion into the category of firm conviction.

[Roman123567]

Actually, some RESEARCHER (LEO) wrote nonsense, dissatisfied with the fact that he was instructed with minuses for previous nonsense ..
This can be seen if you read carefully ..

[mitrich]

Where are you going to get to? Immortals, or what?

[snake]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Since neither I, for example, nor my friends and acquaintances - that’s not a single time and no one — are not going to die at all

Few people are going to, but someday we will knock over a pile for you.

[AnderS]

Since neither I, for example, nor my friends and acquaintances - that’s not a single time and no one — are not going to die at all, yes

Seriously? So you’re not going to? Tell this to the Jews who were taken to Sachsenhausen or Auschwitz ... They, too, were not going to die, and did not even suspect what fate awaits them there ...

[RESEARCHER]

Here we have already started a discussion, although I don’t have anything against you, and how can I have something in absentia. I’m sure that after a personal meeting we would part as friends rather than enemies.
More positive and become charging.

[Malyuta]

Quote: RESEARCHER

I’m sure that after a personal meeting we would part as friends rather than enemies.
More positive and become charging.

I agree with you and thank you for your kind words.

[snake]

Quote: RESEARCHER

Somehow it immediately became sad. Because the readers of "Military Review" who too bypass those who, despite the difficulties, work and do not whine at their fate.

Look how everything turned, sad hard worker! It turns out that he was slammed down because he plows like Papa Carlo, and not for repeating propaganda mocking cliches, in the spirit of the overtaxed mediocrity officials.

Quote: RESEARCHER

I have the honor, gentlemen, comrades.

Let's goodbye!

[bk316]

for repeating propaganda mocking cliches,

No, it’s just how you are different .....

[snake]

Give examples or limit yourself to unfounded statements?

[snake]

Quote: RESEARCHER

During the Great Patriotic War, nobody paid much to anyone

And in besieged Leningrad, there weren't even "macaroshes". Come on, Russians, work for an idea, and leave high salaries to Ragozin, Miller and Sechin, for money is not about happiness, according to "Researcher".

Quote: RESEARCHER

the best national features of our people are lost

And the intelligence of some individual representatives of our people is also lost ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

So you need to demolish this damn capitalism and you can again work for the idea. No, of course you need money, but to live your life for the purchase of iPhones, etc. ... somehow petty ... do not you?

[snake]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

live life for the purchase of iPhones, etc. ... somehow petty ... do not you find?

Something you go from extreme to extreme. On the one hand - the Great Patriotic War, on the other - iPhones. There is nothing wrong with iPhones. After all, technology. This is not for you to pump natural raw materials from the bowels of the country.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

No extremes - of us (you, me) make a consumer society. Earn - buy, earn - buy ... buy more ... take a loan - buy again ... Earn more - buy more. The iPhone was just an example, you can put anything in its place. And how without raw materials? What will you fuel your Ferrari with? Another thing is that money from this raw material does not go to the people. But as I said, this is capitalism. And if you want to replace ideology with money ... nothing good will come of it - get a nation of gobs.

[snake]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

No extremes - of us (you, me) make a consumer society.

It is what it is! You’ve divorced the middle class with 17 thousand - consume as much as you like. All go with iPhones. And who does not go - drives a Ferrari. Everyone buys, if not in themselves.

[military_cat]

For an honestly working person, the money he earns is the equivalent of the benefits he brings to society. There is nothing wrong with making an honest contribution to the public good and acquiring things for which other people have made their honest useful contribution.

[Roman123567]

if you want to replace ideology with money ... nothing good will come of it

But I think the opposite is true ..
And the fact that in the Union money was not for the most part the greatest value for people, and did not push them, again, for the most part - to kill, theft, corruption, exorbitant profit .. all this was just the same good !!

But when everyone and everything, young and old, has money at the forefront, they have exclusively money .. - it’s just that nothing good can come out a priori !!

[Comrade Michael]

Back in the 90s and 2000s, we were bred well on patriotism, we worked for a penny. At the same time, patriotic breeders lived on a grand scale, while we (unofficial patriots) made ends meet ... No, this tale about patriotism no longer channels - money for a barrel (moreover, real, not slavish handouts), then talk ...

[pereselenec]

What prevents you personally from stopping going to VO and going to work hard at the defense industry or Roskosmos? There, a couple of vacancies I already looked at you:

[Keyser soze]

There, a couple of vacancies ...

Eto how much is 12 thousand ... 200 euros ?! For the rocket engineer?!? Ahhhhhhhh ... If this is not photoshop ... things are seams .... It’s better to prepare for the October Revolution, the second edition, than to go to work ....

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Keyser Soze

If it's not photoshop ..

Not Photoshop, but a curve sketch.

[Reducer]

Apparently, the numbers opposite the specialties interfere!

[Greenwood]

Lord, in our office the cleaning lady gets 3 times more.

[DVR]

this is a qualitative transition in guidance tools.

If this is a qualitatively different level, then why does the aforementioned India you buy S-400, despite the threat of sanctions? Oh yes, and China you mentioned too (plus Turkey is a member of NATO).

[military_cat]

Air defense not only consists of guidance.

[KCA]

Have you ever read anything about the A-35 / A-135 / A-235 ABM systems? So even at the dawn of their development there were missiles with kinetic damage, back in the mid-50s, and in the case of air defense, a shrapnel shot is more effective than a kinetic blow, well, a kinetic projectile will hit the SU-25 engine, so what? He will fly to the base, there are many such cases, although they were hit by the Stinger, and it’s not at all clear where the blow will be in such a fool as the TU-95 or the TU-160, and the shrapnel will immediately turn the plane into broken meat

[military_cat]

Quote: KCA

So even at the dawn of their development, there were missiles with kinetic defeat

Where can you read about it? Sounds like something on the level of the "megopolis-express" newspaper about flying saucers from the ancient Egyptians.

[KCA]

Yes, someone bothers you, read
https://topwar.ru/102833-rozhdenie-otechestvennoy-protivoraketnoy-oborony-strany.html, я-ж пишу, что вы какие-то свои фантазии пишете, а по вопросу ничего не читали никогда

[military_cat]

I checked the books referred to in the article (7,8), where they talk about high-explosive fragmentation warheads everywhere. "Kinetic defeat", which we are talking about (where the missile flies directly into the target), does not provide for a high-explosive fragmentation warhead.

[KCA]

I don’t understand, but the phrases from the article: “Thus, the system“ A ”created at the test site, whose general designer was G.V. Kisunko, experimentally confirmed the fundamental possibility of intercepting ballistic targets; for the first time in history, the possibility of a precisely calculated meeting was shown. a projectile with a projectile. "[8]. The same effect (with non-nuclear (" kinetic ") defeat of a ballistic target), American specialists were able to achieve only in the summer of 1984." is not enough for you? Well, refute, although it makes sense to argue, are you an engineer-developer of air defense and missile defense missiles of Russia? Maybe a tester? Do you even have a 3rd form clearance to argue what air and missile defense systems are there? I have not, the conversation is over

[d4rkmesa]

And no one will tell you other details about the non-nuclear version of the A-135 / A-235.

[Dmitry Vyazmenskiy]

Cat, you can read on the Internet

[Bar1]

Quote: KCA

Angstrom-T went bankrupt, but did not close, but where to go if the main partner is AMD? They’ll give Rostekha back and the process will go on, I won’t tell you about the entire aerospace, but I don’t have rockets, they test radio equipment, work in full swing, there’s no pandemic, almost every week testers and people in stripes come

there’s no bazaar, like everything in this Russia’s air defense is now a commodity, they shove it both here and there, even they sell it to enemies.
But at the expense of components, then what to say, take computers, ALL COMPUTERS are made on a hill, so what kind of war can there be? As the mess begins, all the computers just stand up and the end of the war. This is seen by everyone except Putin, who does not want to make his own computers.

[KCA]

Well, again, you are showing incompetence, all computers for domestic use are made not only in our country, but also at least 90% in China, but the military

[Bar1]

Quote: KCA

Well, again, you are showing incompetence, all computers for domestic use are made not only in our country, but also at least 90% in China, but the military

it’s a lie, the competent one found which military computers we have made? can you show?

[shahor]

Quote: Bar1

what military computers have we made? can you show?

Well, back in Soviet times they made the Elbrus complex. This is such a calculator for calculating flight paths and interception conditions for missile defense. Well, Taiwan was making a desktop calculator, and this one is a 2-story

[KCA]

Dodo, just like that, and also "Beads-4", which stood on the "Buran" and completely controlled its flight and landing, which is even listed in the Guinness Book of Records, it was almost 32 years ago

[Bar1]

Quote: shahor

Quote: Bar1

what military computers have we made? can you show?

Well, back in Soviet times they made the Elbrus complex. This is such a calculator for calculating flight paths and interception conditions for missile defense. Well, Taiwan was making a desktop calculator, and this one is a 2-story

in general, looking at the control panels of the same c300 / 400, you can see that there are by no means old old computers, and modern computers. So the elbrus is by, and the system is also likely to be Windows-based, so everything is controlled from there, so all that we are told about readiness for war is a lie.

[UserGun]

Quote: KCA

but also 90 minimum% in China

In which China? As far as I know, Asus, Acer and others on the continent are not eager to place production. And this is the lion's share of PC production.

[KCA]

China considers Taiwan its territory, and the Taiwanese themselves are nonsense against it, only the world democratizer is interfering

[UserGun]

Tell me, have you been to Taiwan? Most likely not, but I had to go there for an internship and study, so I can say that the inhabitants of this island really do not like (to put it mildly) continental And the "world democratizers" are very much loved there, because they know what they owe for their well-being.

[KCA]

It’s strange, and Formosa’s economic ties with mainland China are growing from year to year, and they understand there that the democratizer simply doesn’t have time, if desired, China will wreck Taiwan so quickly that the US will not even have time to wake the president

[UserGun]

And why would they not grow? China on the continent is just an assembly site And Taiwan supplies them with almost all electronic components, all of a sudden Bullshit, about the fact that China does everything on its own, just ravings of local couch war pennies. Indeed, almost all production of at least processors and soc components of Chinese phones and other consumer goods is done at TSMC, UMC, MediaTec Where are they located? Right in taiwan

[KCA]

TSMC has already caught a multi-billion dollar blow from Trump, stop working with Huawei, swallow and forget? I doubt, most likely they will transfer a couple of factories to China, so quietly and imperceptibly, the Chinese can do this, but the prices for the iPhone will definitely increase, not for a dozen contract TSMC Elbrus to compensate for the losses

[UserGun]

What enchanting nonsense ... would you at least have enlightened something before releasing all this game here))) Well, do not forget that TSMC is building a factory at the pagan Yankees, including for new Apple processors)))
You strive so ridiculously to "lower" the United States and "raise" the PRC, which is even funny

[KCA]

Well, that is, do you think that the loss of billions of billion contracts with Huawei is complete garbage and TSMC will continue to continue kissing the gums with the United States and will not make any attempts to get its billions? Where were you in Taiwan? On the beach? And you can at least a little information about the TSMC and UMC factories in the states, Ti, DS and other chip manufacturers are just waiting for the TSMC factories, are their owners ready to give everything to the Chinese? Exhale

[UserGun]

Tyuyuyuyu ...))) Here they assured me like a spirit that China fully supplies itself and spanks processors for the whole planet))) But it won’t work out))) What fright should I believe in your game ?! ))))

[KCA]

I don’t know who assured you of what, but TSMC is the world's largest contract manufacturer of microchips, even Intel and Micron hang around ten after TSMC, although Intel and SEC are far away

[UserGun]

Quote: KCA

TSMC the world's largest contracted chip manufacturer

We know this))) Only here it is located in Taiwan, and not in some China))) and is practically equipped from scratch with pagan Americans and no less pagan Anglo-Saxons))) Moreover, they still use their own equipment and their the same technologies (take at least the same scanners ) Do you naively think that they will chop the branch on which they sit, for the sake of some PRC and the Honor counter, which imagines itself cooler than boiled eggs ?!

Schazz. yeah, we ran up and changed shoes in a jump

I’ll tell you more that after watching the Chinese, softly creeping))) very many rethink the existing puzzle and, alas, not in favor of the PRC. And as we see, even with such an example.

[Dmitry Vyazmenskiy]

Bar, and Elbrus?

[shahor]

Quote: KCA

7 to the Almaz-Antey training ground, they’re not testing rockets, but radio equipment,

Do you wear lead pants?

[KCA]

No, radiation is going towards the Ivankovo ​​reservoir, but the employees are ordered not to hang out, and the security booths are covered with an iron mesh

[UserGun]

Quote: KCA

if the main partner is AMD?

What?! What is AMD on FIG ?! When was the last time you saw her representatives ?!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: military_cat

sanctions on foreign components. And import substitution somehow did not work out, over the past 6 years only Angstrem-T went bankrupt

He is "bankrupt", plows in three shifts! I can see him from the office window. The bankruptcy of an enterprise is such a "tricky" mechanic ... People go to work, the wages are in progress, the products are shipped ... Recently, the Kurgan was bankrupt ... It works. Uralvagonzavod also tried!

[Comrade Michael]

What kind of cooperation?)))) We are for them wild Papuans, the embodiment of evil or just stupid Papuans ... Well, who and what will cooperate with us from the leaders ??? Cooperate with equals. We are not equal to them today. And we do not believe in our strength at all ... Who will take us to the common table? A little lagging behind cooperate to take your achievements, no more ...

[slipped]

Quote: military_cat

The satellite was postponed due to sanctions on foreign components.

No.

But the launch rocket has already been delivered.

[bk316]

that modern aerospace electronics only works in international cooperation,

This is good, because if so then soon the United States will not be able to threaten us either from the air or from space.
Indeed, on the territory of the United States itself soon there will be no production at all, and it will be difficult to cooperate with China.

[military_cat]

They will cooperate with Taiwan and South Korea.

[Bar1]

but don’t you tell me on which missiles the satellites are launched, aren't they on the Soviet ones? Moreover, the Putin regime has existed for 30 years.

[KCA]

Do you really think that the Korolevskaya R-7 and modern Unions are one and the same thing, you can’t see any external differences when you nurse, without getting inside?

[Bar1]

Quote: KCA

Do you really think that the Korolevskaya R-7 and modern Unions are one and the same thing, you can’t see any external differences when you nurse, without getting inside?

not only I think so, liar, but the rest, too, that 99% of them are just royal.

[KCA]

Let's start from the very top - on R-7 (East, Sunrise) was the CAC? Gradually we get to the engines that fly straight from the year 57

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Bar1

just put off ten years, nowhere to hurry.

Currently, there are two Glonass-K satellites in orbit, the first of which was launched in February 2011, and the second in December 2014. Moreover, one of them works, and the second is being tested.

Since 2014, it has been in orbit and is still undergoing tests ... The 7th year in orbit ... Well, right, so what's the hurry, hurry up?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Starover_Z

Since 2014 in orbit and is still undergoing tests ... 7th year in orbit ...

While tested, the rest of the group will rot in orbit.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Bar1

just put off ten years, nowhere to hurry.

In a hurry there will be others.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Bar1

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nowhere to rush. Run and screw up - much worse. Plesetsk is a military spaceport, they always have everything regularly ... satellites are another matter ...

just put off ten years, nowhere to hurry.

Well, yes ... Better to pull out a "raw" product ... Maybe it will fly away. Flew away, but there is no connection. So, what is next? The main thing is that they fired!

[Svarog]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nowhere to rush. Run and screw it up - much worse

Indeed, where to rush ... forever ahead. So our billionaires argue from the authorities. And meanwhile, we are getting closer and closer to African countries .. on the other hand, we will have a new president soon, maybe the terms with the new president, promises will be fulfilled ..

[Rubi0]

Of course, of course, as soon as the new elite buys a castle near London and Tesla, then everything will be settled right away ... well, or we’ll choose a new one and it certainly will not disappoint

[Comrade Michael]

The new president will protect the legacy and course of the old, as with Yeltsin ... And so on ad infinitum .... Running in a circle ... On a chain.

[DVR]

just put off ten years, nowhere to hurry

Indeed, where to rush ... forever ahead

Oddly enough, but judging by the comments, some believe that screwing up is better than moving it. Ten years, eternity - what nonsense. What do these people have in their head in general? The question, of course, is rhetorical, does not require an answer.

[Yezhov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nowhere to rush. Run and screw up - much worse. Plesetsk is a military spaceport, they always have everything regularly ... satellites are another matter ...

It is better to double-check all 10 times Eugene !!!! Remember how many strange crashes were there when you first started these systems? This is competition with GPS and so on.
The US will not be able to control Russia completely .. Russia is striving for this

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Yezhov

It is better to double-check all 10 times Eugene !!!!

Comrade Yezhov, it is necessary and necessary to double-check, but not the Five-Year Plan to check the spacecraft launched into orbit !!! YOKLMN-PRST !!! It is clear that software is checked in work, but at least 6 years ?! By the end of the test, the device can already be written off, ours, unfortunately, for over 10 years are guaranteed to not work ... Alas ....

[Reducer]

You think the launch of the satellite was postponed, the main launch-vacation of the ISS director on the next New Year's Eve in a hotel room for 1800000 rubles. At the expense of the plant, no one will postpone!

[Sklendarka]

You are wrong, I always said that sprunzhins for a trampoline should be made of 65 G, and you with springs, springs ....

[The leader of the Redskins]

The fact, of course, is not pleasant, but not fatal. I think it will work out later. You need to think positively.

[military_cat]

When everyone thinks positively, it is very convenient - you can do nothing and not answer for anything.

[hagen]

Quote: military_cat

When everyone thinks positively, it’s very convenient - you can do nothing

Think narrowly. There are such positives - to plant a small part of villains, so that another part of the same villains start working, or get ready for the second stage of planting. What is not positive for you?

[Sklendarka]

You know what half measures you have, I agree with the first half, but you can shoot the second half as well, otherwise you save everything on the small (the cost of cartridges), but you lose on the big .....

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

Well, the second one can be shot

What part do you see yourself in? And your relatives? I won’t ask about my mother-in-law, and so it’s clear - only the second part

[Sklendarka]

Quote: Hagen

Quote: Skalendarka

Well, the second one can be shot

What part do you see yourself in? And your relatives? I won’t ask about my mother-in-law, and so it’s clear - only the second part

The answer is:
I see myself among those who are given cartridges, this is the first;
The second, relatives, are worthy people, the father of the partisans, the Knight of the Order of Glory of two degrees; mom survived the bombing of Dresden ...
The third mother-in-law (got used to it for the first twenty years, now we live together) was born in Siberia, lived and educated in Turkistan, married and has been living in Minsk since 53 ... Maybe you can tell about grandfathers and grandmothers if you want, but I'm afraid , you would rather believe in aliens than about their worthy life and their trace in the history of OUR STRAYA ....

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

I see myself among those who are given cartridges, this is the first;

History knows examples when the arrows of firing squads became targets.

Quote: Skalendarka

Second-relatives-worthy people

I'm not even trying to argue, I take my word for it. But, this hardly matters in the bloody showdown with which you want to assert your views. After all, in general, I asked the question not because I doubted the merits of your loved ones, but because those whom you propose to shoot will obviously be shot with the same methods, or even more effective, that you want to use. And those who are dear to you may be under attack. Therefore, I propose to limit ourselves to planting that small part of the scoundrels whose crimes will be proven, without going over to the "dictatorship of the proletariat" and "red terror" as its consequence. Are you tired of a peaceful life and want to embark on a civil war? I don't understand your thirst for someone else's blood.

[Sklendarka]

You know, these are all just words, a dictatorship, guilty, not guilty .... Fear, Responsibility and inevitable Retribution are the things that people who rule the pencil and people who rule the country should remember.
.
,, ... may it be rewarded for his deeds ... ''

[hagen]

Quote: Skalendarka

Fear, Responsibility and imminent Retribution are the things that people who rule the pencil and people who rule the country should remember.

Retribution for what? History knows a lot of examples of retribution both for a crime and for origin, and for the fact that as a result of hard work he achieved some kind of material well-being, and for the fact that a loafer has no luck in life, but he has a revolver in his hand ... - who are the judges? This is where the problem lies. Who will determine the guilt and the degree of responsibility? What will be hidden behind "righteous anger" - a thirst for justice or personal hostility? Will there be a detailed investigation or a splash of emotions? And you - fear, responsibility ... blah blah blah ... these are all slogans on the banner.

[Comrade Michael]

Yeah, to the point ... And when the roasted rooster pecks, they will find an engineer, a security guard and a cleaning lady and everyone will be blamed on them ...

[Roman1970_1]

A hole was found in the trampoline. Now darn and launch

[alone]

Quote: Roman1970_1

A hole was found in the trampoline. Now darn and launch

A hole in Rogozin’s head .. Let him first be darned ..

[Roman1970_1]

A hole in Rogozin’s head .. Let him first be darned

This is what we are talking about.

[Asad]

They would take feasible obligations, figured we’ll do it in five years, plus a year for all sorts of absurdities!

[knn54]

Improving navigation accuracy is delayed again.

[Pvi1206]

satellite is an expensive thing ... it’s better to double-check it again than to lose it again ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: Pvi1206

satellite is an expensive thing ... it’s better to double-check it again than to lose it again ...

How to check it, if it has not yet been done? Therefore, the launch is postponed. The military is all set. They wait only when the satellite is brought up.

[Old partisan]

Coronavirus with ... Guilty.
This bastard does not allow the space industry to develop.

[Comrade Michael]

And also the Communists led by Lenin, the 90s, and the Americans (pin..sy) ... all hinder the launch ...

[Greenwood]

Ilona Mask forgot. Now the trend is that he is to blame for all the problems of Russian cosmonautics.

[Old partisan]

And I’m all interested. But in the event of a nuclear war, our missiles will fly at the enemy? Or will missile launch be postponed until operational status?
A joke of course.

[post]

and there satellites need to be launched?

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Quote: forpost

and there satellites need to be launched?

At present, in the GLONASS system, 23 spacecraft are operating for their intended purpose, 1 spacecraft on temporary maintenance, 2 spacecraft in reserve, one in testing.

[Vadim237]

24 satellites are enough for Glonass to work - and they will make this satellite and send it when it is ready. The news is about nothing.

[Klingon]

continues to continue to fly along an inclined space trajectory. At this rate, we will soon begin to purchase Chinese satellites. Or just go to their Baida

[Rubi0]

Well, if you don’t want China, then it’s time to work like in China, do you want to work according to the covenant of the Chinese founder Alibaba according to the formula 699, that is, 6 days a week from 9 to 9? It will take 72 working hours

[DVR]

Alibaba of Formula 699, that is, 6 days a week from 9 to 9?

And for disrupting the plan - eating live worms :)

[hagen]

Quote: Rubi0

It will take 72 working hours

What are you ?! How is it possible ?! So after all, there will not be enough time for a fan from IN!

[Rubi0]

So, there’s enough time to sleep and take a shower in a fashionable smart apartment as much as 12 square meters

[Comrade Michael]

They pay more. And everything costs less. An ordinary Chinese man can drive to Moscow and St. Petersburg on an excursion and everywhere in the world, but we cannot go to them ... We have no money for this, everything was stolen by effective and "patriotic" ones ...

[Rubi0]

Em 72 hours is as if equivalent to 2 work for us in 40, I think if you work this way for a year then you yourself can drive to China or Singapore

[parusnik]

Originally, there is a spaceport, there is a rocket ... the launch has been postponed due to the lack of a satellite ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: parusnik

Originally, there is a spaceport, there is a rocket ... the launch has been postponed due to the lack of a satellite ...

Satellite manufacturers cannot find import-substituted transistors.

[Comrade Michael]

This hole was plugged by "partners", and almost everywhere ...

[Narak-zempo]

Well, transferred, and so what? Wait for favorable conditions, and start up. Remember how many times Musk, the beloved liberde, suffered launches - even the last.

[Yezhov]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Well, transferred, and so what? Wait for favorable conditions, and start up. Remember how many times Musk, the beloved liberde, suffered launches - even the last.

Yes, they would kick Russia and make fun of it .. This has long been clear Such whiners under any authority have been and will be .. When Russia is completely destroyed, then they will settle down for a while and then again will bark ..

[Blackmokona]

So Musk suffers due to bad weather and other factors not controlled by him, but here they have not been able to build a satellite for half a year. What are the favorable conditions if the satellite is not yet manufactured?

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: BlackMokona

What are the favorable conditions if the satellite is not yet manufactured?

So make. Suppose that there are delays in checking and rechecking, but it will be reliable. Remember how it was with Mars-96, when they wanted to launch faster?
"Tundra" was launched recently without a hitch, and it is not easier to manufacture than GLONASS.

[Blackmokona]

But here they are not in a hurry at all. This is also not good.

Note that this is not the first transfer of the launch of this satellite "Glonass-K". Previously, the launch was planned for March, then in May, then at the end of June, mid-July, now at the end of July.

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Quote: BlackMokona

and here the satellite can’t be built for half a year already. What are the favorable conditions if the satellite is not yet manufactured?

Who told you that? OBS from RIA?

Quote: BlackMokona

But here they are not in a hurry at all. This is also not good.

Note that this is not the first transfer of the launch of this satellite "Glonass-K". Previously, the launch was planned for March, then in May, then at the end of June, mid-July, now at the end of July.

GLONASS satellites are launched according to the actual state of the constellation. Now there are enough working devices in the grouping. And on Earth there is still in storage.

[Blackmokona]

In the news that we are discussing.

According to the source of the news agency, the launch was supposed to take place from the Plesetsk cosmodrome in mid-July, but was postponed to the end of July due to delays in the production of the satellite itself.

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Quote: BlackMokona

In the news that we are discussing.

You are discussing some unnamed source, and I even guess which , but it doesn’t matter when making a wrong conclusion. I previously gave here a photo of this satellite.

[slipped]

Here are just recently launched another new satellite of the GLONASS system in operation:



The system operates two new-generation satellites "Glonass-K1", one more "K1" is being tested.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Narak-zempo

Wait for favorable conditions, and start up.

What are the favorable conditions if everything depends on the unavailability of the satellite?

[Dr. Sorge]

How do you like such a good present, Elon Musk?

[UserGun]

Yes, he doesn’t care He pulled on another 60 the other day without delay (totaling more than 400)

[Greenwood]

It seems that this month another batch of satellites will be launched (in the second half of June).

[Andylw]

again underimported.
In the new Glonass satellites, most of the components are imported - space class.
We do not have such and are not expected.
While launched from previously made pre-sanction backlogs, but they are ending ...
total degradation of the Glonass system

[post]

Where to read?

[slipped]

Quote: forpost

Where to read?

Well, here is the schedule for replacing imported components in Glonass satellites from the manufacturer The satellite "Glonass-K" delayed with the launch has the number 15L.

[post]

Source? Links lead back to topwar

[slipped]

Quote: forpost

Source? Links lead back to topwar

Journal "Russian Space" number 15. https://www.roscosmos.ru/media/img/2020/May/rk2020-03.pdf

[post]

thanks, read

[exo]

If the timing shifted to the right only by satellite launches. Unfortunately, this has become a tradition throughout the defense industry.
It’s time to publish it as a sensation, news: according to the schedule it went into operation; in accordance with the previously announced deadlines completed repairs .....

[Beby]

Quote: exo

If the timing shifted to the right only by satellite launches. Unfortunately, this has become a tradition throughout the defense industry.

Which means that the management of factories / companies / corporations, etc. almost nothing not interested in fulfilling work on time or initially called an unrealistic deadline (if only to report that everything is wonderful).

[Comrade Michael]

The market is global (for our leaders, almost everyone, officials and oligarchs). Their capital is there. Their children are there. And why should my children work here for a penny on these rich ???))) Is this patriotism? No .... My children are deprived of civil and labor rights, career prospects, everyone should buy at the most expensive prices, have no opportunity to influence any power and in no way should they get a penny ... - is that patriotism ??? Enough of my experience of the 90s and early 2000s. The labor market is also global and a simple person has the right to sell his brains and hands to the most generous and smart employers, the right to live in a more comfortable environment ... My task is to help my children acquire and develop knowledge and skills that can be well realized for good money. ... Tales and tales of patriotism, of tightening belts do not work under our system. We have wild capitalism with elements of feudalism, only a stupid slave can be a patriot of a greedy and evil master ... Children will not reach there because fools think down-to-earth (parents first of all), and smart ones know their worth ...

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Comrade Mikhail

And why should my children work here for a penny

Yes, let them go to hell to work for an American uncle for bigmak, no one is holding. It will become easier to breathe.

[Comrade Michael]

OK. And dump. I will be glad. Grandfathers will also be happy. It’s not for thieves to work for pennies with accounts in enemy banks and children abroad. And by the way, they do not work for bigmak. They live well, better than working honest Russians. Relatives have been living there for a long time.

[post]

will be on other thieves

[Greenwood]

Putin's "patriot" cannot even imagine that they are not stealing somewhere. This is impossible.

[Ramzes iv]

Quote: Greenwood

Putin's "patriot" cannot even imagine that they are not stealing somewhere. This is impossible.

Well, why .. Thinks that somewhere they row more than him ..))))

[post]

Yeah, especially on the outskirts

[Comrade Michael]

Yeah, for decent money. And they don’t steal there, count it?)

[post]

I figured they steal as if not into themselves.

[Comrade Michael]

Tales, leave for fools who knows where and what they steal. Much smaller than ours .... People live there and see everything. Yes, and our lies do not roll there at all ... It’s only possible to fool around inside.

[post]

it’s you to leave your fairy tales to yourself, don’t even try to me steal this mouin

[Comrade Michael]

Yes, they live normally there. Even the leaders there are bringing money and children ....))) They understood this.

[post]

"The mice have eaten." How the strategic stock of grain disappeared in Ukraine

https://ukraina.ru/exclusive/20200602/1027869391.html
Immediately so to speak, but looked normal live, in a big way.

[G. Georgiev]

"Postponed", But this is not news, but a tradition.

[Old26]

Quote: KCA

Do not tell me how many unsuccessful launches from Plesetsk were, well, for 20-30 years? The military has a little more control over all the stages of preparation and launch, they found one cant - they will check everything up to the cogs

Somewhere around ten. But this is not a criterion. Must be compared with the total number of starts ...

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Nowhere to rush. Run and screw up - much worse.

Of the launches of 140 GLONASS satellites, only 4 were abnormal: 2 unsuccessful, 2 partially successful (on the carrier there were 3 satellites)

Quote: KCA

Have you ever read anything about the A-35 / A-135 / A-235 ABM systems? So even at the dawn of their development there were missiles with kinetic damage, back in the mid-50s, and in the case of air defense, a shrapnel shot is more effective than a kinetic blow, well, a kinetic projectile will hit the SU-25 engine, so what? He will fly to the base, there are many such cases, although they were hit by the Stinger, and it’s not at all clear where the blow will be in such a fool as the TU-95 or the TU-160, and the shrapnel will immediately turn the plane into broken meat

The missile defense systems A-35, A-135 and A-135M IT NEVER HAPPENED missiles with kinetic damage. The anti-missile system A (anti-missile B-1000) had a fragmentation warhead. All other interceptor missiles of the A-35, A-35M, A-135 and A-135M systems had special warheads. And only now, in the tested A-235 system, according to rumors, there may be kinetic warheads instead of nuclear or fragmentation. But so far "on the water it is written with a pitchfork"

In air defense, no one plans to use kinetic interception against aerodynamic targets. The probability of hitting an aerodynamic target will be equal to or close to zero. Therefore, just as there were anti-aircraft missiles with fragmentation warheads, they will

[Antokha]

If the satellite is not ready, it is necessary to transfer, it is stupid to argue with this. Import substitution is not expected to be easy.
I'm trying to understand the essence of all disputes about salary, about working for an idea, etc.
I propose the following definition of the creed of modern man:
I will not work for the good of the Motherland for little money, because there are people who do not work, but get big
If we decompose into components, we get, again on behalf of the "modern man":
1. Homeland - this is probably not an empty phrase. At least many respected people think so.
2. I do not mind working for the good of the Motherland
3. I do not mind getting a little money if everyone gets it when there is some kind of horror in the country (war)
4. People who receive many times more than the work pays for the homeland are an example of success that I strive for.
5. People who do not work, but row a lot of money, affect me directly. I can’t work calmly and get paid since I learned about their existence.
6. To get my work, pay me a lot and remove from the society of the rich.
Conclusion: I am motivated only by money, the rest is lyrics
An alternative approach, let's call it Soviet, is this:
1. The country needs it, I will do it even if I understand the injustice of the payment system
2. I will do what is possible within the political system to eliminate injustice
There is another point that stands apart:
1. I will or will not (underline as necessary) do the work if nobody needs it.
The Soviet approach implied that we work, even if it is in the trash.
The modern approach is also: the main thing is to pay, and what you do with it is up to you
And there is such an approach: I will work only if the result is needed (I won’t leave right away, but there is a limit of patience).
Who is in the subject? Who knows how much the work of our space engineers is in demand? I dont know. Wouldn’t it be like in the USSR when nothing was introduced? Maybe Rogozin is hindering our inventions and introducing a Western one (like Serdyukov) for the sake of buying or copying? Or the industry itself does not give a good result. Who is in the know?

[Shahno]

Antokha, it is possible and so, of course. Only people do not think with your cliches. They have their own.

[Antokha]

Antokha, it is possible and so, of course. Only people do not think with your cliches. They have their own.

And this is wonderful! If only they themselves could structure them in the head. And it turns out neither a plan nor a conscious goal. Unfortunately, even managers have to observe this. And for complaints, the system is not needed, so it turns out.

[Ramzes iv]

Quote: Anton

Who is in the subject? Who knows how much the work of our space engineers is in demand? I dont know. Wouldn’t it be like in the USSR when nothing was introduced? Maybe Rogozin is hindering our inventions and introducing a Western one (like Serdyukov) for the sake of buying or copying? Or the industry itself does not give a good result. Who is in the know?

You asked questions, which you yourself answered .. What do you want to hear here?
Now you will be imposed with tables of salary engineers in Roskosmos, etc. ..
But the Mask there yes .. Freedom of creativity and financial independence, etc. ..This has long been sore mouth ..

[Antokha]

You asked questions, which you yourself answered .. What do you want to hear here?
Now you will be imposed with tables of salary engineers in Roskosmos, etc. ..

Everything is obvious about money, I asked a little about something else. So, let's say, I came up with something working for this small salary. Will the manager tell me today: we must, well, let's introduce it. Or: there is no money for implementation. Or: I don't care what you invented there.

[Shahno]

Quote: slipped

Quote: BlackMokona

and here the satellite can’t be built for half a year already. What are the favorable conditions if the satellite is not yet manufactured?

Who told you that? OBS from RIA?

Quote: BlackMokona

But here they are not in a hurry at all. This is also not good.

Note that this is not the first transfer of the launch of this satellite "Glonass-K". Previously, the launch was planned for March, then in May, then at the end of June, mid-July, now at the end of July.

GLONASS satellites are launched according to the actual state of the constellation. Now there are enough working devices in the grouping.

But objectively speaking, there are problems. I understand that, you understand. I understand because there is a specialized education and work experience in this industry .... You can mitigate the situation, yes.

[Fishery]

the priest just did not deliver on time))))))))

[veritas]

The launch of the new generation Glonass-K satellite has again been postponed

The word "carryover" is increasingly being heard in the news.

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Quote: veritas

The launch of the new generation Glonass-K satellite has again been postponed

The word "carryover" is increasingly being heard in the news.

Transferred for a thorough check. Therefore, all launches are successful.

[Dikson]

Then he will work in orbit, God forbid, about five years, and - Adyu .. like Express ... these are the components .. (

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Quote: Dikson

Then he will work in orbit, God forbid, about five years, and - Adyu .. like Express ... these are the components .. (

AM6? Most of its transponders continue their work on transmitting information via satellite, the platform is quite new, has already successfully worked out for five years, and various childhood illnesses are possible during the run-in. His classmate AM5 runs smoothly.

Glonass-K No. 701 and 702 worked 111.4 and 66.2 months respectively.

[Dikson]

Yes AM6 .. The week flashed disappointing information that he was finally sour .. ((
Obviously, you have more reliable sources of information ..

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Quote: Dikson

Obviously, you have more reliable sources of information ..

Due to the failure of the liquid circuit of the payload temperature control system, it was necessary to reduce the power of the electric power from 12.1 to 4.5 kW; accordingly, 30 of 72 transponders had to be disconnected. At the same time, the satellite is at its point and continues to operate.

[Comrade Michael]

Somehow I heard from one venerable engineer working for our headless "patriotic managers" .... He said, in his hearts, "it would be better if the Americans ruled us" .... This is an honored person, old formation, head ...) )) How is it necessary to manage so that the old guard would come to such thoughts?)