The probable date of the official ceremony of the transfer of the APRKSN "Prince Vladimir"

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The probable date of the official ceremony of the transfer of the APRKSN "Prince Vladimir"

Strategic nuclear project nuclear missile cruiser project 955A (code "Borey-A") "Prince Vladimir" will officially form part of the North fleetas expected next week. It is reported by Interfax, citing a source in the industry.

The ceremony may take place next week. It depends on a number of factors, including the situation with coronavirus

- stated the source of the publication.



Recall that the acceptance certificate of the submarine was signed on May 28 at Sevmash. However, officially it will become part of the Russian Navy only after the ceremony of raising St. Andrew’s flag.

On June 1, 2020, the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy Nikolay Evmenov approved the acceptance certificate for the nuclear submarine. According to him, the date of the official ceremony will be determined in the near future.

In the near future, the date of the solemn ceremony of admission of the submarine to the Navy will be indicated. The strategic submarine cruiser Borey-A, Prince Vladimir, will carry out missions as part of the submarine forces of the Northern Fleet

- the press service of the Northern Fleet quotes the words of the commander in chief.

Strategic nuclear project "Prince Vladimir" of the modified 955A Borey-A project was laid down at Sevmash in Severodvinsk on 30 on July 2012 of the year, and the conclusion from the workshop took place on November 17 of 2017 of the year. The Borey-A project is distinguished by less noise, more advanced systems of maneuvering and retention at depth, as well as control weapons.

To date, the 955th fleet of the Russian fleet is powered by three 4th-generation project 955 (Borey) nuclear missile submarines - the strategic missile cruisers Yuri Dolgoruky, Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh. In addition, four more serial ARPKSNs of this project 27A are under construction at the Sevmash - Prince Oleg (officially laid down on July 2014, 26), Generalissimus Suvorov (laid down on December 2014, 18), and Emperor Alexander III (laid down on December 2015, 23 years) and "Prince Pozharsky" (laid down December 2016, XNUMX).
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    1. +15
      6 June 2020 17: 30
      The good news ... for every Borey is a significant enough strengthening of Russia ... and its freedom ...
      1. +10
        6 June 2020 17: 41
        Yes, you are right. A big "thank you" to the United States, who arranged such a life for all countries on earth with the help of their dictatorial military regime. If you want to live, be able to turn around. Here we go. But this is not all that should be transferred to the Navy this year, including for testing. Well, Khabarovsk should be launched soon.
        PO Sevmash JSC will transfer four nuclear submarines to the Russian Navy in 2020, including the strategic submarine prince Oleg. About this "Star" said the first deputy general director of the enterprise Sergey Voronko
        “Next year, Sevmash plans to transfer four nuclear submarines to the Navy. These are Belgorod, two multi-purpose nuclear submarine cruisers of the Yasen-M project - Kazan and Novosibirsk, and the strategic nuclear submarine cruiser Prince Oleg, ”Voronko said.

        https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201912161653-yV9o2.html

        And so they have to cope, albeit with a shift of terms to the right.
        It is expected that by 2023-2024 the Navy will receive 17 new nuclear submarines. Eight of them are strategic missile carriers (their series consists of three Project 955 ships already handed over to the fleet and five Project 955A under construction, of which, as described above, the first will be launched this year). Seven are multi-purpose nuclear powered ships, of which one, project 885, has already been handed over to the Navy, one, the main project 885M, has been launched and five serial ones are under construction. Plus, at least two special-purpose submarines of projects 09851 and 09852.

        https://www.korabel.ru/news/comments/o_stroitelstve_podvodnyh_lodok_na_sevmashe.html
        1. -1
          6 June 2020 18: 13
          Well you keep information :)
          If it’s not difficult for you, don’t you remind how many new contracts were signed (how many boreas and ash trees)?
          1. +2
            6 June 2020 18: 39
            Secret information is not given to anyone! fool tongue
            1. 0
              6 June 2020 20: 03
              Quote: Simon
              Secret information is not given to anyone! fool tongue

              A lot of media usually don’t ring about secret information. And if they ring, then this is not secret information, but well-known information.
        2. -23
          6 June 2020 18: 14
          The problem is that they are building an unhealthy * mo under the guise of fighting squares
          1. +3
            6 June 2020 18: 59
            Quote: Fizik M
            unhealthy * mo under the guise of fighting pl

            Did you check a miracle laughing fool
            1. -1
              7 June 2020 08: 45
              Quote: 79807420129
              Did you check

              bunny, I'm one of those that REQUIRED the necessary tests
              which a number of rats in the military industrial complex and the navy are
          2. 0
            7 June 2020 02: 05
            Fizik M (Maxim) Yesterday, 18:14
            -18
            The problem is that they are building an unhealthy * mo under the guise of fighting squares
            Reply
            Crawled out ... It would be better to keep silent in a rag !!! tongue : bully negative
            1. -3
              7 June 2020 08: 49
              Quote: aszzz888
              Crawled out ...

              the animal "crawled out" - this is about you, an individual that can only crawl and lick
              Quote: aszzz888
              It would be better to keep silent in a rag !!!

              a bit of reality
              https://topwar.ru/157559-apkr-severodvinsk-proekt-885-jasen-sdan-vmf-s-kriticheskimi-dlja-ego-boesposobnosti-nedodelkami-protivotorpednoj-zaschity-podlodok-vmf-rf-net.html
              https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
              https://topwar.ru/156337-kuda-bezhit-admiral-evmenov.html

              Well, what an animal, can you reasonably object to this? Or is it not written in your rotten and stupid manuals (and there is only a stubborn tearing of a trampoline and a pseudo "patriotic" screech)?
        3. -10
          6 June 2020 19: 03
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Yes, you are right. A big "thank you" to the United States, who arranged such a life for all countries on earth with the help of their dictatorial military regime

          I wonder what kind of life the USA made all countries of the world? What definition did you mean? I suspect that they meant a bad life. But is this really the case when viewed objectively? I think that Japan, Australia, Canada, China, the EU countries and many other countries will not agree with you. Perhaps the Syrians, Libyans, Iranians, most of the Serbs and Russians will agree. And I understand them very well. The United States has done them a lot of evil for their rebellion.
          But let's now look at the history of mankind. Is under the leadership of the United States the world has become worse than it was before? Of course not. The whole history of mankind is wars, conquests, death, etc. Each country tried to become the main one in the world, to subjugate as many countries as possible. This is the natural behavior of people. I will say more, such competition is an evolutionary mechanism of development that occurs through natural selection on a global scale. Is it possible to make less people die because of this? Sure. Humanity is gradually, step by step, going towards this by spreading generally accepted rules.
          As for us, Russia, we need not complain about the United States, but engage in the development of the country. Agree, we are far behind developed countries in terms of development, living standards, development level of civil society, political culture, etc. These lags remain and even increase due to the fact that the people of our country are excluded from governing the country and the ability to influence the decisions made by the authorities. Theoretically, this is not so, but practically this, unfortunately, is a fact. It is through a change in this situation that we, the people of Russia, can and should move in our development and catch up with other countries. This must be understood and promoted by every patriot of his country and ordinary sane people who are going to live in Russia and further, wishing her only good.
          1. -7
            6 June 2020 21: 24
            This should be understood and promoted by every patriot of his country and ordinary sane people,


            I can wager your very sensible writing will collect minuses like fleas on a mongrel. Well, the "patriots" will not understand that the greatness of one country is expressed first in the care of its citizens and their welfare. And civil society and in general you have a dirty word ... laughing
            1. -1
              6 June 2020 22: 25
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              I can bet that your very reasonable scripture will collect the minuses, like a flea on a mutt.

              I knew about this even when I decided to write these my thoughts. Well, okay, I’ll survive somehow, not in the first.
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              Well, the "patriots" will not understand that the greatness of one country is expressed first in the care of its citizens and their welfare.

              For many, the TV still beats the refrigerator. And some do not even need a TV, they are naturally "gifted" with intelligence. This applies to the hooray patriots in full measure. But with these it's okay, as they say, with them everything is very clear. I turned to people for whom the word think is not just a word, not a stupid repetition of conclusions hammered into them by propaganda, but this word means the process of thinking, the analysis of information, and, first of all, asking oneself important questions. For example, the question: "Why is this so?" A thinking person is difficult to manipulate. That is why they are dangerous for authorities like ours.
            2. +3
              7 June 2020 06: 53
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              in caring for citizens and their well-being.

              Is this "concern for citizens" in the United States? Blunt squeezing so-called. "State" more and more money from people, addicted to the lending needle, as a result, more and more people, in the end, are just homeless.
              What about medical care? Once a person gets sick and falls into bondage, he then has to pay huge sums to the bills of medical institutions. Not one medical insurance covers the full cost of treatment.
              What about housing? It's just squalor, all of America lives in barracks - in houses made of slats and plywood, which, however, cost many thousands, in order to acquire even such, if I may say so, "housing", a person has to take huge loans and then pay off his whole life ... Such a barrack costs from 200 thousand dollars to a million, depending on the location. Not everyone can pull such a loan, but only a highly paid specialist, so many Americans remove "corners", or even simply live in mobile vans.
              When I read Volkov's fairy tale "The Wizard of the Emerald City" as a child, for a long time I could not understand why the family of the girl Ellie lived in the van. Can't you build a house? It turns out that this is a common occurrence in the United States.
              What about retirement in the United States? It is simply impossible to live on it. Many retirees, because they cannot make ends meet, sell their homes and go to a "nursing home", or even just become homeless.
              In the United States, there is a real police arbitrariness that has nothing to do with the widely advertised, so-called. American "democracy", the police authorities can not only grossly humiliate any person, but also simply kill for the smallest violation. We are now witnessing protests against police outrage in the United States, which, however, are brutally suppressed, despite the declared "rights and freedoms."
              And many many others...
              I would not want to live in the USA ...
          2. +7
            6 June 2020 22: 53
            - I do not consider myself a patriot of this power and I understand you when you say that it is necessary to engage in the development of the country, but only when I start to do this, for some reason, the country from which "the world has not become worse" introduces against me sanctions, hunts for my citizens all over the world, keeps them in prisons, incites neighboring countries, and so on, so on ... ???
      2. -18
        6 June 2020 18: 13
        This is very BAD news, because the fleet is being handed a ship with critical flaws and not passing the necessary tests.
        1. -14
          6 June 2020 18: 19
          Quote: Fizik M
          critical fleet is being handed over to the fleet

          Hurray patriots do not think so.
          1. +2
            6 June 2020 19: 00
            And who thinks so? "Experts" at VO?)
            1. 0
              6 June 2020 21: 06
              Hurray patriots do not think so.

              For that, your beloved USA is building a miracle of a zumvolt boat, which like troughs cannot find a place at all .. for what it .. miracle)
              1. 0
                7 June 2020 02: 02
                Quote: krot
                For that, your beloved USA

                This is what the USA crossover made my beloved?
                1. 0
                  8 June 2020 20: 08
                  This is what a crossover

                  And drink less .. Thoughts will clear up.
            2. +1
              7 June 2020 08: 51
              Quote: codetalker
              And who thinks so? "Experts" at VO?)

              including officers DEMANDING the necessary tests (and improvements)
              one of which is me

              incl. materials of arbitration courts with a full obser in our case on modern means of PTZ PL (including the "newest" "promising" complex "Kartech")
              1. +1
                7 June 2020 14: 37
                I am not familiar with the details of this process, but as far as I understand (since there was arbitration and a delay in reception) your comments were heard, and the product was sent for revision, right? If any claims remain after this, then you need to express them again (not only here).
                1. -2
                  8 June 2020 06: 13
                  Quote: codetalker
                  (since there was arbitration and a delay in reception)

                  links are given, "Severodvinsk" was adopted "naked" - WITHOUT the prescribed means of countermeasures ("Module" and "Fins")
                  Quote: codetalker
                  your comments were heard, and the product was sent for revision

                  in this case, the "product" is not only the "fired products" but also the complexes and the ship itself
                  THERE WAS NO REAL ESTABLISHMENT
                  but it was "somehow shove"
                  yes, Lasta needs to be improved and implemented, and in a forced manner
                  but "Module" is JUST, by definition, its TTZ was formed back in the late 80s, and since then THREE GENERATIONS of weapons that it must "counteract" have changed
                  Quote: codetalker
                  it is necessary to express them again (not only here).

                  it's done
                  answers (close to the text) "tests are carried out in accordance with GOST"
                  that it is FALSE, because a whole series of critically necessary (and mandatory (!) - for confirming TTZ and TTX) tests there is simply a SSUT to conduct (replacing with false "calculated data")
          2. -1
            6 June 2020 19: 03
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Hurray patriots do not think so.

            Is this an official statement on behalf of their faction?
            Actually, as the cheers believe, everyone knows ... they think, Hooray!
            1. 0
              6 June 2020 19: 22
              Quote: mark1
              Is this an official statement on behalf of their faction?

              No, I'm an oppositionist. laughing
              1. +2
                6 June 2020 19: 36
                There are patriots, there are traitors. If you are not the first, then you are the second.
                1. -1
                  7 June 2020 08: 53
                  Quote: Fungus
                  There are patriots, there are traitors. If you are not the first, then you are the second


                  for me, trampoline breakers are pseudo "patriots" even worse than traitors
                  for with the latter everything is clear, this is a clear enemy, but trampoline rippers are hidden
                  incl. and because very often their pseudo "patriotic" screeching is well paid for - RATS gnawing our defenses
              2. 0
                7 June 2020 00: 08
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                No, I'm an oppositionist.

                Hi Lyokha!
                1. +1
                  7 June 2020 02: 00
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  Hi Lyokha!

                  Navalny, or what? Wrong address. I do not respect this pepper.
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          1. 0
            7 June 2020 08: 54
            animal, heart-rending pseudo "patriotic" diarrhea here you have

            a bit of reality
            https://topwar.ru/157559-apkr-severodvinsk-proekt-885-jasen-sdan-vmf-s-kriticheskimi-dlja-ego-boesposobnosti-nedodelkami-protivotorpednoj-zaschity-podlodok-vmf-rf-net.html
            https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
            https://topwar.ru/156337-kuda-bezhit-admiral-evmenov.html

            Well, what an animal, can you reasonably object to this? Or is it not written in your rotten and stupid manuals (and there is only a stubborn tearing of a trampoline and a pseudo "patriotic" screech)?
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        3. -1
          6 June 2020 21: 04
          Quote: Fizik M
          This is very BAD news.

          This is a fake: the title is meaningless. It also makes little sense to discuss the likelihood that the "ceremony" will take place on any given date.
        4. -2
          6 June 2020 22: 42
          Industry issued what it could, and not what the fleet wanted (needed by the Navy). This is, unfortunately, an old problem. But we have no other industry yet.
          1. +1
            7 June 2020 08: 58
            Quote: K298rtm
            Industry issued what it could, and not what the fleet wanted (needed by the Navy). This is, unfortunately, an old problem. But we have no other industry yet.


            no industry can
            and understanding of the acuteness of the problem is just there (General designer of "Rubin" Baranov to me about "this issue" - "You pose questions from which it is just right to shoot!")
            there are attempts to solve them, but the solution can only be COMPLEX and SYSTEM
            and for this, "at the top" it is necessary to realize the acuteness of this problem, and the solution of the "personnel issue" by persons who have consciously SABOTATED this decision for many years (see.
            https://topwar.ru/157559-apkr-severodvinsk-proekt-885-jasen-sdan-vmf-s-kriticheskimi-dlja-ego-boesposobnosti-nedodelkami-protivotorpednoj-zaschity-podlodok-vmf-rf-net.html )
    2. +3
      6 June 2020 17: 55
      after the transfer to the military, the compilation of lists of necessary improvements that are discovered during operation will begin ... the more complex the equipment, the more such lists will be ... common practice ...
      1. +4
        6 June 2020 18: 11
        So ordinary that you could not write about it.
      2. -15
        6 June 2020 18: 16
        There are already such shortcomings there that if it were not for the "personal gratitude" of Uncle Kolya to one VIP-rat in the military-industrial complex, there would be no question of taking this crap
        1. +1
          6 June 2020 20: 53
          Quote: Fizik M
          There are already such shortcomings there that if it were not for the "personal gratitude" of Uncle Kolya to one VIP-rat in the military-industrial complex, there would be no question of taking this crap

          Comrade Klimov, announce the entire list of jambs please. And then your statement is unfounded.
          1. -3
            7 June 2020 09: 00
            a bit of reality
            https://topwar.ru/157559-apkr-severodvinsk-proekt-885-jasen-sdan-vmf-s-kriticheskimi-dlja-ego-boesposobnosti-nedodelkami-protivotorpednoj-zaschity-podlodok-vmf-rf-net.html
            https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
            https://topwar.ru/156337-kuda-bezhit-admiral-evmenov.html

            and specifically
            https://mina030.livejournal.com/24483.html

            so roll your video into a tube and shove it, "Jamshut" here you are
        2. 0
          7 June 2020 09: 32
          Quote: Fizik M
          There are already such shortcomings there that if it were not for the "personal gratitude" of Uncle Kolya to one VIP-rat in the military-industrial complex, there would be no question of taking this crap

          rating - 14
          and it pleases, because these disadvantages are not from normal people, but from paid BOTS
          then their owners from FACTS "blaze"
          1. +4
            7 June 2020 13: 20
            yes you spit on these minuses ... just the majority is not in the subject ...
            This winter I had a chance to meet two schoolmates of the school ... they are consultants in the former 28th Navy Research Institute on torpedo subjects ...
            basically, they say the same thing ...
            1. -2
              7 June 2020 20: 40
              Quote: kepmor
              yes you spit on these minuses ...

              I don't care for them
              and sometimes the interest is simple - stupidly like a "reverse reaction" of the owners of bots (these are not abstract faces and offices, but in some cases they are quite specific)
              there is a "shaft of minuses", it means that the owners flared up (and this is a sign that there is "resonance")
              1. 0
                8 June 2020 04: 32
                Bots here are naughty of course, but not by them single))
                It's just that people are very mottled on this resource. People who discuss politota have little contact with naval topics. They will not participate in the discussion under your article, but they will throw minuses in the commentary under the news. They are used to looking for fascists and national traitors. And in general, the format with the ability to minus and virtual shoulder straps is flawed.
                1. -1
                  8 June 2020 07: 49
                  Quote: Demagogue
                  It's just that people are very mottled on this resource.

                  "her majesty statistics" allows a lot to be analyzed
                  when + and - go in random order and for some time - it is clear - people are people
                  but when a "bunch of cons" happens "at once", and especially when it is accompanied by a simultaneous "bunch of pluses" to "certain posts" - these are bots that have received the corresponding. task

                  by the way, this was especially evident in the topics on "Status-6"
                  1. -1
                    8 June 2020 07: 53
                    In terms of their status, they and Timokhin literally minus you. Seamlessly))) professionals))
                    1. 0
                      8 June 2020 07: 58
                      Quote: Demagogue
                      By Status

                      I personally was more interested in calculating who they are on command plus
                      for it is precisely such posts that scoundrels tried to push "upward" under the guise of "reaction of the outraged public"
                      1. 0
                        8 June 2020 08: 03
                        It is clearly seen when hammering one of them purposefully. That is, someone -10, and next to a similar thought, zero reaction. Yesterday, some gopniks wanted me to promote my plush marshal with the entire available news feed for weeks.
                        But they need to be sorry. People at low wages sit without
                        growth prospects.
                        1. -2
                          8 June 2020 08: 39
                          Quote: Demagogue
                          But they need to be sorry.

                          I have an absolutely rational attitude towards them wink
                          now, this time he even said "thank you" - for they show "it did or didn’t blow" "there"
                        2. +1
                          8 June 2020 09: 01
                          Does someone decision maker read comments?
                          It is unlikely that my statement that the old Shells with Pfars are not being taken out against the UAV by the Turks was readily read by someone and gave the command to wet. If only a personal initiative of bots.
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    3. +11
      6 June 2020 18: 31
      Health workers Sevmash. Take care of yourself.
    4. -6
      6 June 2020 18: 52
      Some of the leaders of the fleet and industry have a great desire from the family for a day — two to run away and have a drink in the DITR of SEVMASH at a gala banquet in honor of the delivery of the order to the fleet? Or with the genius of the leadership of the Arkhangelsk region fly for a couple of days to Solovki? Or someone for a large sum insured against Covid-19 and wants to get insurance, hoping that his illness will be guaranteed in a mild form?
      Is it okay that thanks to the tireless daily care of the head of the Civil Defense and Emergencies Department of the Administration of Severodvinsk, Mr. Magomedov, in May 2020, it suddenly turned out that there were no stocks of masks, respirators, gloves, and suits for working with especially dangerous infections in the hospitals and policlinics, at the ambulance station of Severodvinsk? The decree of the President of the Russian Federation on high readiness was in March 2020 ... Is it okay that Mr. Golubtsov quietly resigned from the post of chief physician of the Central Medical Unit No. 58 of the FMBA of the Russian Federation at his own request? There were no coronavirus tests in the factory clinics and the tomograph in the factory hospital was quarantined since March (people went to Arkhangelsk to pay for CT of the lungs), people in the wind at + 2 + 8 stood for hours on the street to get an appointment with the factory clinic, and the reception was in one general queue? In city hospitals, CT was not done (there is no tomogrof), smears on covid were not taken (tests only in May went in the normal amount), the city Rospotrebnadzor brings a decree on quarantine for family members 10-12 days after the family gets sick tests and they are positive (people wait up to a week for test results). Today there are no places in either the factory or the city hospitals, there are no doctors, nurses, or cleaners. As the doctors of the 3rd polyclinic of the city hospital 2 say - an order from above to make a diagnosis - ARVI, no one taught doctors how to recognize and treat Covid-19 ... For some reason, they remembered the disinfection of public places and factories only in May ... The genius of administrative work - and about. Governor of the Arkhangelsk Region Tsybulsky rode a helicopter over the Northern Dvina in April and reported: "Everything is under control!" The flood is terrible this year - losses - millions ...
      GMO Severodvinsk Skubenko reported about covid-19: "Everything is under control!" True, the geniuses from "Okeanpribor" did not sit in compulsory quarantine for 2 weeks, they wandered around the city, and through factories, and on orders, the fleet must quickly - to hand over the order as soon as possible! The naval hospital is overcrowded, both city and factory hospitals are overcrowded. As a result: the city has been closed since June 06, 2020 - wise acting Governor of the Arkhangelsk region Tsybulsky decided that the traffic police blocked all 3 roads. The police, the Ministry of Emergency Situations and Mr. Magomedov go shopping to check the observance of the mandatory mask and glove regime. I already wrote about the closure of the pine forest on the island of Yagry ... Will there be a holiday on the delivery of the order with fireworks? This is what the Internet throws up: https://yandex.ru/turbo/h/vybor-naroda.org/lentanovostey/167360-situacija-v-severodvinske-proval-dejatelnosti-vlastej.html, here's another https: //www.severreal .org / a / 30655357.html
      No one willing to come to the Far North for a "long ruble"? There is work: http://tv29.ru/new/index.php/zdrav29-kalendar-zdrav/23586-bolnichnyj-gorodok-severodvinskoj-gorbolnitsy-2-stal-biologicheski-opasnoj-zonoj-po-kovid-19
      And more about the statistics at the regional headquarters level. Polyclinics and the hospital of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB - only in Arkhangelsk (the general statistics do not include employees, pensioners and members of their families, of course) from Severodvinsk they all go to Arkhangelsk; naval hospital (military personnel, pensioners and members of their families are not included in the general statistics of sick people); I don’t know the polyclinic of the Russian Railways gives statistics to the headquarters (it is only in Arkhangelsk, the Severodvinsk railway workers go there for treatment). All sick from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB and Russian Railways Severodvinsk get in the statistics for the sick in Arkhangelsk?
    5. +5
      6 June 2020 19: 08
      Quote: Fizik M
      There are already such shortcomings there that if it were not for the "personal gratitude" of Uncle Kolya to one VIP-rat in the military-industrial complex, there would be no question of taking this crap


      Audiences are invited to guess on their own which particular flaws?))
      Launch a voting ballot with options: no PTZ, incorrect operation extinguished, noise ...
      1. +1
        7 June 2020 09: 03
        Quote: Demagogue
        Audiences are invited to guess on their own which particular flaws?)) Launch a voting ballot with options: no PTZ, incorrect operation extinguished, noise ...

        turn on the brain
        with noise there everything is OK (if it’s a little wrong now, then they’ll bring it), but to the West we concede, but quite a bit
        SAC works well, but "there are nuances"
        but with the PTZ full SEAM ...
        https://topwar.ru/157559-apkr-severodvinsk-proekt-885-jasen-sdan-vmf-s-kriticheskimi-dlja-ego-boesposobnosti-nedodelkami-protivotorpednoj-zaschity-podlodok-vmf-rf-net.html
        https://topwar.ru/156811-arkticheskij-torpednyj-skandal.html
        https://topwar.ru/156337-kuda-bezhit-admiral-evmenov.html
        and specifically
        https://mina030.livejournal.com/24483.html
        1. +1
          7 June 2020 09: 10
          Well, ptz and torpedoes is a constant.
          1. 0
            7 June 2020 09: 31
            Quote: Demagogue
            Well, ptz and torpedoes is a constant.

            this is not a "constant" but a SABOTAGE
            I remind you that Americans and Fritz still can not repeat on AT what we did in 1998 (!!!)
            and the ONLY effective device PTZ (GPD) MG-104 "Throw" was removed from the ammunition kit (it was necessary to replace the batteries stupidly), and now ALL carriers of the "Barrier" are "naked"
            etc. - there are many more examples
            1. +3
              7 June 2020 09: 38
              Is the situation better with torpedoes? And the fleet does not have drills with afar, the modern helicopters and planes are flat, torpedoes to them, the stealth drummer. Yes, there is nothing. About minesweepers you can not even start too)

              1. 0
                7 June 2020 09: 43
                Quote: Demagogue
                Is the situation better with torpedoes?

                better
                in the sense that there is a complete failure with PTZ (not even NK, despite the working "Package")
    6. +1
      6 June 2020 19: 37
      Great submarine
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        7 June 2020 09: 04
        Quote: Fungus
        Great submarine

        is it you in the body Yavisor sang or wrote in the training manual? lol
    7. +2
      6 June 2020 20: 17
      Beautiful boat! Even outwardly, in comparison with the previous unmodified ones, it is clearly better. I am convinced that all the comments on the operation of the previous ones are taken into account and eliminated. And comments and suggestions for improvement have ALWAYS been, are and will be! Donkey is the last and a bruise (if not an enemy) is the one who does not understand this!
    8. +2
      6 June 2020 23: 16
      More atomic missile cruisers, larger and formidable, so that probable opponents have a coward who cowards))
    9. +1
      6 June 2020 23: 31
      Specialists explain to the ignorant - anaerobic plants - really needed or not? As far as I understand, time under water is slightly increasing ... it costs togo ... well, noisiness, complexity, energy costs ... Many powers are anaerobic (different - in service - have we refused, or simply not yet?
      1. +1
        7 June 2020 09: 05
        Quote: aviator6768
        Specialists explain to the ignorant - anaerobic plants - really needed or not?

        Need
        for BF, Black Sea Fleet and for export
        + for battle laws

        but for the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet there is nothing better than "Dollezhal's eggs" for the submarine (diesel-electric submarine)
    10. 0
      7 June 2020 09: 28
      personally for those who are on "armored train and in wooden helmets", etc. lovers of "tearing the trampoline" and pseudo "patriotic" UGAR (for normal people and PATRIOTS of the country this is clear and so, and they do not need to "chew" it)
      for the INDEPENDENCE of the country, powerful and effective Armed forces are needed, including SSNF
      Let me remind you that with all the troubles of the 90s, our missile launchers regularly fired SLBMs (including BEFORE important political events), to show (there is someone) that "the Russian bear, though knocked down, but can get up and hit it"
      however, this requires effective BATTLE ships and their weapons (and countermeasures)
      not "parade decorations" and lured media
      1. +2
        7 June 2020 12: 45
        Tell me, do these anti-torpedo means require some kind of refinement of the boat itself? Just loading new products on board and updating the BIOS for them is not enough? Or do we need special TAs, for example?
        1. +1
          7 June 2020 14: 27
          Yes, a revision is needed.
    11. +3
      7 June 2020 20: 34
      sergo1914 (Sergey), dear, thanks for the kind words!
      Fizik M (Maxim), dear, I fully share your position: "for me, trampoline breakers are pseudo" patriots "even worse than traitors, because with the latter everything is clear, this is a clear enemy, but trampoline breakers are hidden, including and because very often their pseudo "patriotic" screeching is well paid - by RATS gnawing our defenses "
      Well, for those who, for their comment about Covid-19 in Severodvinsk and the region of cons, sketched out ... A good welder of SEVMASH that cooks titanium in an airless chamber (the central channels of the Russian Federation were somehow allowed to shoot this process and compared the welder with a diver or cosmonaut), prepares for 7-10 years, as well as fitters - fitters, and equipment adjusters on the "Arctic" - 10-15 years. And if one worker in their team gets sick, the whole team is in quarantine for 2 weeks. This is Mr. Budnichenko for today on vacation, but SEVMASH is working, for example, Mr. Novosyolov can sign for him. And without a team of specialists that they got sick or were in quarantine for 2 weeks at the dacha they feed mosquitoes - the deadline for the delivery of the order is right, because they are all exclusive to our defense industry, there is no one to replace them! Nizhny Novgorod, St. Petersburg and Komsomolsk-on-Amur have not been building nuclear submarines for many years ... Minusators, turn on your bright little heads, you are not all drunk, this is what the operational headquarters of the Arkhangelsk region issued today: http: // tv29 .ru / new / index.php / koronavirus / 23594-na-7-iyunya-v-severodvinske-vyyavleno-46-novykh-sluchaev-covid-19
      36 people are employees of GRCAS enterprises, some of them are married, so the spouse will be either on sick leave in the next 2-3 days, or in quarantine for 2 weeks. Some of the spouses are also employees of GRCAS enterprises, and adult children live with some of the sick together in the apartment, and also workers of GRCAS plants ...
    12. -2
      8 June 2020 08: 41

      Panama Russian fleet Rustam Beck. Author's edition. 1908 The book was published in Geneva. You can download it at: https://istoriki.su/roulette/905-panama-russkogo-flota.html
      The book was scanned and placed by Tatyana Kravchenko, an employee of the Literary Museum https://www.facebook.com/tukravchenko
      Panama - in the sense of a scam. After the great scandal that erupted in France in 1892 - 1893 due to the monstrous corruption and theft at the construction of the Panama Canal, any large-scale fraud was called Panama.

      I strongly recommend reading it (especially considering that it was written not from the couch, but by a risky, initiative military officer), with emphasis in the text:
      https://mina030.livejournal.com/16792.html
    13. -1
      8 June 2020 08: 50

      Panama Russian fleet Rustam Beck. Author's edition. 1908 The book was published in Geneva. You can download it at: https://istoriki.su/roulette/905-panama-russkogo-flota.html
      The book was scanned and placed by Tatyana Kravchenko, an employee of the Literary Museum https://www.facebook.com/tukravchenko
      Panama - in the sense of a scam. After the great scandal that erupted in France in 1892 - 1893 due to the monstrous corruption and theft at the construction of the Panama Canal, any large-scale fraud was called Panama.

      I strongly recommend reading it (especially considering that it was written not from the couch, but by a risky, initiative military officer), with emphasis in the text:
      https://mina030.livejournal.com/16792.html
      1. -1
        8 June 2020 10: 52
        Our propaganda reminds me very much of the Spanish before the war of 1898 with the United States. The old empire is also no longer pulling, but the public was assured that the old battleships, like our old Moscow and others, would trample amers without options. Americans had already built monsters like Iowa by this time, and the Spaniards from the new one had one armored cruiser Columbus, class Garibaldi, without main guns. Instead, they stuck logs. Our lack of PTZ and torpedoes is absolutely the same.

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