In Turkey, presented a new domestic attack helicopter T629

In Turkey, presented a new domestic attack helicopter T629

In Turkey, a closed presentation of the model of the promising attack helicopter T629 was held, the development of which in the interests of the Turkish army is conducted by Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI). It is reported by NPlus1 with reference to Aviation Week.


According to the portal, the new T629 attack helicopter will occupy a niche between the light attack T129 ATAK and the heavy ATAK 2, which has been under development since the beginning of last year. The T629 has been under development since 2017, in 2019 TAI defended the helicopter project and began assembling the first flight model. The technical details of the new helicopter are not disclosed, it is known that its weight will be 6 tons. At the presentation, the T629 was armed with 70-mm unguided missiles and anti-tank L-UMTAS. The first helicopter flight should take place at the end of this year.

Note that Turkey is not armed with attack helicopters of its own design. The country launched the production of light attack helicopters T129 ATAK, developed on the basis of the Italian A129 Mangusta. The twin-seat helicopter has a maximum take-off mass of 5 tons, a maximum speed of 278 km / h, and a flight range of 510 km. In service with a 20-mm gun TM197B, UR and NAR.


In addition, since 2019, TAI has been developing the ATAK 2 heavy attack helicopter. The maximum take-off weight is 10 tons, of which 1,2 tons are payload. The first flight of a heavy helicopter is scheduled for 2024-2025.
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  1. Zaurbek 6 June 2020 12: 01 New
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    There is only one question - why do the Turks need three attack helicopters? The answer is only one. The Turks have a lot of common genes with the Russians and they followed the path of the USSR and the Russian Federation in creating and equipping the Air Force with helicopters. It remains to add a couple more models to the Altai tank.
    1. alone 6 June 2020 12: 17 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      There is only one question - why do the Turks need three attack helicopters?

      I believe that one type of attack helicopter is being prepared for export ..
    2. Bashkirkhan 6 June 2020 12: 32 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      Turks have many common genes with Russians

      If only with the Crimean Tatars. By the way, the engines of the T-129 are American CTS-800 with a power of 1361 hp, manufactured by the Light Helicopter Turbine Engine Company (LHTEC), which is a joint venture of the British concern Rolls-Royce and the American Honeywell. There are problems with their supplies. In general, the release of CTS-800 engines should have been carried out since 2009 at the plant of the Turkish company Tusaş Engine Industries (TEI). But "gentlemen believe in the word" and the Americans did not give the Turks localization of engine production.
      1. svp67 6 June 2020 12: 37 New
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        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        If only with the Crimean Tatars. By the way, the engines of the T-129 are American CTS-800. There are problems with their supplies.

        Well, it’s not in vain that they are now friends with the Ukrainians, they already installed engines for UAVs, in which case they can also for helicopters ...
        1. Bashkirkhan 6 June 2020 12: 46 New
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          Turks want to have helicopters weighing 10 tons or more. Such as the Russian Ka-52 Alligator and Mi-28N Night Hunter, as well as the Boeing AH-64 Apache. So, interest in Motor Sich products is understandable.
          1. Zaurbek 6 June 2020 13: 00 New
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            I would just buy a Mi28 production license ....
            1. Pavel57 6 June 2020 14: 13 New
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              Quote: Zaurbek
              I would just buy a Mi28 production license ....

              Then, the Ka-52. They know him well.
              1. Zaurbek 6 June 2020 14: 31 New
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                Here we must look at the complexity of production ...
          2. svp67 6 June 2020 13: 32 New
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            Quote: Bashkirkhan
            Turks want to have helicopters weighing 10 tons or more

            Ukrainians produce engines for Mi-2 ... so that they have something to offer for a light helicopter
      2. Zaurbek 6 June 2020 13: 03 New
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        With Crimean, Kazan, Karachais, etc.
    3. cormorant 6 June 2020 13: 12 New
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      In Turkey, a closed presentation of the model of the promising attack helicopter T629
      The key words here are the presentation of the model. Now it is only polystyrene and plywood. When it flies and whether it flies at all, then conclusions must be drawn. I would call the article "Turkish dreams of a domestic attack helicopter."
      1. Piramidon 6 June 2020 15: 16 New
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        Quote: cormorant
        The key words here are the presentation of the model. Now it is only polystyrene and plywood.

        I liked the "video" with this presentation. laughing Slideshow of five repeating photos, such as "tales of a white bull" good The whole helicopter did not see any fragments. request
    4. venik 6 June 2020 22: 29 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      There is only one question - why do the Turks need three attack helicopters? The answer is only one. The Turks have a lot of common genes with the Russians and they followed the path of the USSR and the Russian Federation in creating and equipping the Air Force with helicopters.

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      Wrong answer!:
      - "Cobra" - is outdated and displayed out of operation.
      - "Mongoose" is too light and not able to solve problems in combat high intensity;
      Conclusion: Something like Crocodile and / or Alligator / Night Hunter is needed!
      WHAT UNDERSTANDING?? request
  2. Thrifty 6 June 2020 12: 06 New
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    In fact, their industry has reached this level. Unlike the Chinese, the Turks invested in technology, they decided not to pull it off, but how to do it themselves. You can blame the Turks, but their weapons are always cheaper than those bought even from NATO neighbors.
    1. alone 6 June 2020 12: 19 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Unlike the Chinese, the Turks invested in technology, they decided not to pull it off, but how to do it themselves. You can blame the Turks, but their weapons are always cheaper than those bought even from neighbors in the NATO block.

      About 40 years ago, they even bought simple ammunition. And now, as you can see, they provide their army with 70-75% of their own military products ..
    2. Krasnodar 6 June 2020 12: 27 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      In fact, their industry has reached this level. Unlike the Chinese, the Turks invested in technology, they decided not to pull it off, but how to do it themselves. You can blame the Turks, but their weapons are always cheaper than those bought even from NATO neighbors.

      Not always
    3. alexmach 6 June 2020 12: 29 New
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      Unlike the Chinese, the Turks invested in technology, they decided not to pull it off, but how to make it themselves

      The delusional generator does not fall silent?
      Turks, unlike the Chinese, have direct access to Western military developments. That’s the whole secret.
    4. svp67 6 June 2020 12: 40 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      . Unlike the Chinese, the Turks invested in technology, they decided not to pull it off, but how to do it themselves. You can blame the Turks, but their weapons are always cheaper than those bought even from neighbors in the NATO block.

      You have a confusion in your head. And what about the Chinese, something heavily from weapons bought abroad? There are simply different possibilities. Turkey, as a NATO country, for a long time took advantage of this advantage in military-technical cooperation, China did not have such opportunities, they were forced to rely more on their intelligence and industrial espionage.
    5. Zaurbek 6 June 2020 12: 58 New
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      China has mastered a turbo turbo engine for helicopters, what have they mastered from Turki engines?
      1. Oquzyurd 6 June 2020 13: 24 New
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        TEI "TS1400" Gas turbine engines are ready, waiting for certification. They will soon install on their civilian helicopters, then on military ones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhcP8-d-2c4
  3. Fungus 6 June 2020 12: 14 New
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    Some garbage but not a helicopter
    1. KVU-NSVD 6 June 2020 12: 41 New
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      Quote: Fungus
      Some garbage but not a helicopter

      And what exactly do you think is garbage?
  4. Mountain shooter 6 June 2020 12: 20 New
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    So far, a minimum of information about the helicopter. Rather, his performance characteristics. The Turks are active, enterprising and are developing their mechanical engineering, including the military-industrial complex. To make a combat helicopter without having its own civilian helicopter construction is expensive ... I believe that engines, gearbox and propellers are still partially bought ... But anyway, a significant achievement.
  5. rotmistr60 6 June 2020 12: 30 New
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    The fact that the Turks are trying to do their own thing on their own is only a plus. In the future, this makes it possible under difficult conditions (the same sanctions by the United States) to feel less vulnerable. In addition, if you get something decent, then you can export with organized promotion, i.e. make money on it.
    The first flight of a heavy helicopter is scheduled for 2024-2025.
    Wait and see what happened and how good.
  6. silberwolf88 6 June 2020 12: 32 New
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    Any country ... claiming independence of its policy ... regional significance (or perhaps more generally) is simply obliged to have its own developments in the field of weapons ...
  7. gabonskijfront 6 June 2020 12: 37 New
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    The Turks do not know much about military design, they have no idea about the beautiful. Looks like a cab in a tailcoat.
  8. 013Azer 6 June 2020 12: 55 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    .I suppose, the engines, gearbox and screws are still partially purchased ... But still, a significant achievement.

    Yes, but for several years, work has been ongoing on the creation of engines for helicopters and tanks, turboprops for heavy UAVs have already been done, and work is also ongoing on a turbojet for the Turkish JET.
    This is a 2000 strong engine for helicopters, the development is not yet completed, but they create them in 4 different versions.

    The heavy UAV engine is ready, and flew several times.

    The engine of the Altay tank. So far they have reached 1000 forces, but much is still ahead, and the development has not stopped.

    And work on creating a turbojet for my future JET


    Undoubtedly, all these engines will be ready, based on a very advanced level of engineering, and all the exact sciences and education in general in this country. They just need to be patient.
    1. Sarkazm 6 June 2020 16: 38 New
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      Quote: 013Azer
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      .I suppose, the engines, gearbox and screws are still partially purchased ... But still, a significant achievement.

      Yes, but for several years, work has been ongoing on the creation of engines for helicopters and tanks, turboprops for heavy UAVs have already been done, and work is also ongoing on a turbojet for the Turkish JET.
      This is a 2000 strong engine for helicopters, the development is not yet completed, but they create them in 4 different versions.

      The heavy UAV engine is ready, and flew several times.

      The engine of the Altay tank. So far they have reached 1000 forces, but much is still ahead, and the development has not stopped.

      And work on creating a turbojet for my future JET


      Undoubtedly, all these engines will be ready, based on a very advanced level of engineering, and all the exact sciences and education in general in this country. They just need to be patient.

      All is correct. Turkey is consistently and step by step moving towards the independence of its military-industrial complex, which, among other things, is pulling up industry in general.
      The Turks made conclusions from the Cyprus crisis, when all NATO countries supported Greece, leaving Turkey without spare parts and ammunition, the Turks have a good memory. But nothing is impossible to create from scratch, you need to grow staff, you need continuity, you need your own school - the Turks have come very close to this, and this is not just a desire, for example, of leadership or generals, it is as part of a national idea - whoever comes to power, to prevent this from happening, there has always been continuity in this direction, although there have been attempts to sabotage. We generously squandering the legacy of the USSR do not value what we have, and the Turks who created everything in fact from scratch value every achievement and are not scattered by them.
      The task was to have in Turkey its own production of the main battle tank, light tank, infantry fighting vehicle, armored personnel carrier, light and medium helicopters, light twin-engine fighter, anti-aircraft missile systems from MANPADS to medium radius, artillery, communication systems, missiles from tactical, anti-ship to air highly maneuverable air air battle. Now look at how much of this ALREADY the Turks have 100% of their own, for which positions the ALREADY samples are, but the dependence on foreign suppliers and cooperation remains, which the Turks have at the test stage ... They are great, they have done a lot of painstaking work.
      Apparently, Ukrainians will not just take the engines, although it is possible at the first stage, and gradually receiving part of the technology will produce their own.
    2. Free wind 6 June 2020 21: 20 New
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      Azerbaijani, tank engine, 1000 horses, six-cylinder, And what are the maximum revolutions? I thought there MTVishny diesel stands. I can not understand the timing drive. The engine is very interested.
    3. Insurgent 9 June 2020 16: 32 New
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      Quote: 013Azer
      The heavy UAV engine is ready, and flew several times.

      So this is the outskirts of dviglo belay
  9. Comrade Michael 6 June 2020 13: 04 New
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    infa nothing ...
  10. knn54 6 June 2020 13: 05 New
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    In "129" the Turks were carried away by stealth technologies. Almost 50% of all aviation materials are composite.
    Even composite pylons are removable. They are suspended from the fuselage and reduce radar visibility.
    Therefore, I had to “sacrifice” the reservation and decent ammunition ..
    So an easy reservation will create very big problems in a real battle.
    1. V.I.P. 6 June 2020 14: 41 New
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      They make boron carbide armor. It is very light compared to titanium. In Turkey, there are very large deposits of boron, so they make from it ...... Well MI-24/35/28 and Ka-52 with armor. What is there in Syria with them? Shot down .... And no armor can save the turntable from normal air defense systems. And from the rifleman. enough boron ...
      1. knn54 6 June 2020 18: 48 New
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        Porcelain armor made from boron cabid is very expensive. And by helicopter it only protects crew seats.
        And the Turks do not do it. USA, China, Russia and who else in Europe.
        And 7,62 doesn’t always save from armor-piercing ones, but against 12,7 it won’t pull at all.
        1. V.I.P. 6 June 2020 19: 31 New
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          Turkey is the world's largest producer of boron. The country accounts for 71% of global boron production. Boron carbide is one of the hardest materials on earth and therefore is also used in the production of tank armor, the hulls of nuclear power plants and bulletproof vests. They have a do-it-yourself principle in Turkey. So they are going to use boron carbide everywhere. For them it’s cheap ...
        2. Oquzyurd 6 June 2020 20: 53 New
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          “Ceramic armor from boron cabid is very expensive” If you buy, it’s expensive. If you produce it yourself, it’s much cheaper.
          Turkey has 78 percent of the world's boron reserves. At the moment, together with the Chinese (with Dalian Jinma), they are building a boron carbide production plant in the city of Balikesir. Previously, the Turks simply mined cheese, sold for a penny, bought very expensive finished products from boron.
          Technological production of boron carbide will increase the added value of boron from the mine by 2 thousand times.
          The world price of the highest quality boron raw materials in the world in Turkey under the name Colemanite costs $ 200 per tonne. In the new plant, this product will be turned into a powder called boric acid. Here the tone of this state reaches 600 dollars. In the next process, production will begin of an ingot of boron carbide, which is the hardest element after diamond. When boric acid turns into boron carbide, it will turn into products in the form of plates with a ton up to 40 thousand dollars.
          The conclusions are that boron products for the Turks will be very cheap (cheese and a plant at home), moreover, they will earn very good money on the export of finished boron carbide.
  11. V.I.P. 6 June 2020 14: 47 New
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    Turks are developing their defense industry. They have a lot of their armored vehicles, ATGMs of 3 generations, strike drones, bombs for them, have their own air defense practices, have barrage ammunition, make a bunch of DUM (and many buy them from them), have their own cruise missiles, good thermal imagers and optics .. ..Israel. South Korea, China used to buy everything, but now they sell weapons ...
  12. nobody111body 6 June 2020 17: 31 New
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    Well, tapericha kirdyk to Russian PMCs in Libya, what terrible little things have the Turkish Erdogan; but it’s possible to do so - we’ll buy this piece of iron with a fan and take off against the background of this helicopter of our Chvkist, it will poke a finger at this helicopter and make grimaces and below the article how the Haftar warriors kicked the Turks
    1. V.I.P. 6 June 2020 19: 33 New
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      The Turks have already thrown Haftar (along with PMCs) from Tripoli and from a bunch of other cities.
      1. voyaka uh 6 June 2020 21: 38 New
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        Now they take the city of Sirte on the coast. Haftarovtsy run away.
        Right blitzkrieg staged the Turks!
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    1. V.I.P. 7 June 2020 09: 35 New
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      What kind of attack helicopters will they buy from us? ..... There was a tender for a long time, our Ka-50s with tandem cabins were offered (for 2 pilots). But the Turks bought an Italian helicopter ....
      1. Hydrogen 7 June 2020 12: 31 New
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        I heard on the news that they are going to buy KA-52.