The Northern Fleet will become the fifth military district

The Northern Fleet will become the fifth military district

The Northern Fleet will be equated with military districts; it will receive this status from January 1, 2021. The corresponding decree was signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin. The document is posted on the website of regulatory documents.


According to the decree, the composition of the North fleetas a new military administrative unit will include the Republic of Komi, the territories of the Arkhangelsk and Murmansk regions and the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, which will be withdrawn from the borders of the Western Military District. The borders of the remaining three military districts remain unchanged.

To establish the following military-administrative division (...) from January 1, 2021: the Northern Fleet - within the administrative borders of the Republic of Komi, the Arkhangelsk and Murmansk regions, the Nenets Autonomous District

- the document says.

Отметим, что о создании на базе Северного флота новой военно-административной единицы, приравненной к военным округам, сообщалось еще летом прошлого года. Кроме того, в Минобороны заявляли о разработке проекта указа, согласно которому будут проведены данные изменения.

Recall that 1 December 2014, the Northern Fleet was withdrawn from the Western Military District and at its base the Arctic Joint Strategic Command was created, reinforced by forces and equipment of the Western, Central and Eastern military districts.
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  1. Insurgent 6 June 2020 07: 46 New
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    The Northern Fleet will become the fifth military district

    Поднятие статуса это признание важности КСФ ,как сегмента национальной обороны.
    1. KVU-NSVD 6 June 2020 08: 27 New
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      Quote: Insurgent
      The Northern Fleet will become the fifth military district

      Поднятие статуса это признание важности КСФ ,как сегмента национальной обороны.

      Вообще то получается странная ситуация : Северный - это прямо флот-флот с прямой подведомостью целых регионов , а остальные флоты - это некие эскадры в подчинении сухопутного командования .. Прям дискриминация какая-то ..По крайней мере ТОФ по геостратегическому положению , обширности зоны ответственности и роли в СЯС достоин того-же . Опять же , а что теперь с частями Западного округа будет в этих регионах , вряд ли они все имеют отношение к флотско-арктической тематике ? И ранее подчинённые в оперативном отношении части Восточного и Центрального округов куда теперь будут подчиняться ?
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 June 2020 09: 26 New
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        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        Actually, we get a strange situation

        No :))) This situation was strange when the fleets were shoved into the combined command. We have great problems with the command of the fleets, because officers serve before the admiral's shoulder straps either on surface or on submarines. Accordingly, some do not know the surface ships, others know the submarines, and neither of them really knows the naval aviation. And here - in general, under the hunters ... Or the hunters under the admirals ... In general - game. It is a pity that only the SFs were allocated, it was necessary to display all the others
        1. KVU-NSVD 6 June 2020 09: 31 New
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          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          It is a pity that only the SF was allocated, it was necessary to display all the others

          Yes, I'm generally about the same.
          officers serve before the admiral's epaulets, either on surface or on submarines. Accordingly, some do not know the surface ships, others know the submarines, and neither of them really knows the naval aviation.
          And how to solve such a problem? The specifics are different, the submarine on the frigate is still acceptable, but the commander of the warhead in the comet is not at all.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 June 2020 10: 58 New
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            And how to solve such a problem?

            In other fleets, they somehow decide. EMNIP commander of the British forces at the Falklands Woodwart earlier, before the admiral's epaulettes, had experience as commander of a nuclear submarine and destroyer
            1. bayard 6 June 2020 16: 40 New
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              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Woodwart earlier, before the admiral's epaulettes, had experience as commander of an atomic submarine and destroyer

              This is hardly possible with us - too strict specialization.
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 June 2020 21: 32 New
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                Quote: bayard
                This is hardly possible with us - too strict specialization.

                I would call it our systemic flaw. hi
          2. water 7 June 2020 09: 45 New
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            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            And how to solve such a problem? The specifics are different, the submarine on the frigate is still acceptable, but the commander of the warhead in the comet is not at all.
            Полагаю, решается данная проблема грамотным подходом к порядку прохождения службы офицером. Кадровый орган должен "вести" офицера. А для того, чтобы "вести", он должен знать - какой специалист и на каком месте Флоту будет необходим завтра, после завтра. Необходимо возрождать работу с кадрами, кадровое планирование. Причём не так, как нынче во многих местах принято - нарисовал План, утвердил у начальника и, засунул куда подальше. И лишь к осени, к итоговой проверке, какие-нибудь отчётные документы к этому плану нарисовал, чтобы проверяющих утешить.
            And the transition from the commander of a submarine group to
            Although the commander of the warhead (service chief) of a surface ship, although difficult, on the other hand, the horizons of knowledge for the officer are greatly expanded.
        2. vladcub 6 June 2020 21: 10 New
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          "it was necessary to deduce all the others" Andrey, do you consider it necessary to recreate a separate Ministry of the Navy?
          In the Republic of Ingushetia, there was a Ministry of the Sea; in the Soviet Union, before the Second World War, it was a department of the NKVMF. There is a Lord Admiral in England, in the USA there are similar structures
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 6 June 2020 21: 31 New
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            Quote: vladcub
            Andrey, do you consider it necessary to recreate a separate Ministry of the Navy?

            Without any doubt
        3. tihonmarine 7 June 2020 15: 37 New
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          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          In general - game. It is a pity that only the SFs were allocated, it was necessary to display all the others

          The upper ranks will have larger epaulettes and other salaries.
      2. Doccor18 6 June 2020 10: 32 New
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        Actually, we get a strange situation ....

        In strategic terms, the fleet cannot be equivalent to a military base, since it is not capable of solving the whole range of tasks assigned to the military district. But in our situation, this measure is forced. Create a Northwest Military District, Arctic Military District, etc. , for this there is no opportunity, money, technology, personnel. Therefore, we went along the most realistic path - the Northern Fleet - VO.
        1. tihonmarine 7 June 2020 15: 44 New
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          Strategically, the fleet cannot be equivalent to VO

          This was shown by the defense of Sevastopol, led by Vice Admiral Oktyabrsky. During this period, the construction of the UISS which belonged to the beginning of World War II as one of the most fortified places in the world also belonged to COP.
  2. Vitaly Tsymbal 6 June 2020 08: 06 New
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    Optimization optimization ????
    1. nikon7717 6 June 2020 09: 57 New
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      lol
      I looked forward to the future in the framework of the policy to protect the Arctic, strengthening the importance of the Arctic Ocean region, strategic plans for the development of the Northern Sea Route, protecting the shelf and preventing foreign guests from being superfluous.
      I think in the future our people want to restore the Stalin’s border in the north. To the pole. Without a 10 mile zone.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal 6 June 2020 10: 43 New
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        Мне вот непонятно для чего метаться из стороны в сторону? Скажу своё личное мнение: Любой флот это корабли на море - океане и базы на суше. Главный театр военных действий водные просторы и все береговые службы предназначены для обеспечения чёткой деятельности кораблей, а не охрана сухопутных территорий которые по площади имеют громадную площадь со своими городами, промышленностью, сельским хозяйством, мобрессурсами. Так для чего переподчинять моряков сначала сухопутчикам, а потом сухопутчиков морякам??? Может, по сердюковски, это экономически выгодно, а по "шойгуйски" наиболее удобно для управления, но для для обороноспособности страны в целом это отвлечение сил флота от своих основных задач. Пройдёт время и структура и статус флотов вернётся к тому что было при СССР...
        1. nikon7717 6 June 2020 14: 57 New
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          Пройдет время и политическая ситуация изменится. Пройдет время и РФ станет сильнее чем СССР. Пройдет время и нас с вами не будет и штаты на коленях будут грехи замаливать... hi
  3. Deniska999 6 June 2020 08: 50 New
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    Of course, calling the administrative unit from several regions “fleet” is somewhat strange.
  4. Thrifty 6 June 2020 08: 54 New
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    Now you also need to recognize the Pacific Fleet as a river flatilia, and also define it as an independent region? ?? recourse
    1. Insurgent 6 June 2020 09: 35 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      Now you also need to recognize the Pacific Fleet as a river flatilia, and also define it as an independent region? ??

      SEPARATISM. yes
      1. KVU-NSVD 6 June 2020 09: 39 New
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        Quote: Insurgent
        Quote: Thrifty
        Now you also need to recognize the Pacific Fleet as a river flatilia, and also define it as an independent region? ??

        SEPARATISM. yes

        Shhh-ss. And right now it’s going to rush about the Pacific. Baltic, Caspian and (horror!) bully Black Sea Separs ..
  5. Yezhov 6 June 2020 11: 12 New
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    The Northern Fleet, and in general that region, is a stronghold of Russia's defense! It’s not casual that NATO ships have constantly begun to stick their nose there .. Everyone sniffs out!
    on its basis the Arctic Joint Strategic Command was created,

    Для чего это ? ..Думаю ,чтобы избежать кучу соглосований и времени для ответного удара по супостатам (не дай бог конечно)
  6. Lara Croft 6 June 2020 12: 35 New
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    Northern Fleet equated to military districts, he will receive this status from January 1, 2021.

    Lying. In the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated 05.06.2020 No. 374 "On the military-administrative division of the Russian Federation", not a word about this ...
    According to the aforementioned Decree of the CSF of the Russian Federation, its administrative boundaries are determined, which were previously included in the administrative borders of the Western Military District (according to the repealed Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of April 02.04.2014, 199 No. XNUMX) ...
    The status of the KSF, as it was an association, will remain, it is simply now assigned to it additionally the tasks that are assigned to the Military District. However, it turns out that the KSF of the Russian Federation will take over all formations and associations located on its territory, including relatively recently created 45th VA ...
    I think this is a run-in of the new military-administrative division of the Russian Federation ....
    The same de facto status actually exists and the KBF of the Russian Federation deployed in the Kaliningrad region ....
    CBF RF also requires increasing its status .... CBF RF should be divided into two independent associations (this has already been done after the Second World War), because in the event of war, it will already be divided by the Baltic waters washed by the Baltic countries and Finland ...
    And the territory of the Western Military District will still be reduced, it’s too large, for example, the creation of the North-Western Military District (with the creation of another OA on its territory or the deployment of a small and medium military base near Petrozavodsk into a full-fledged MSD with parts of amplification separating it from the existing 6th OA), both of these HEs would counter the threats from Ukraine and the Republic of Belarus (Western HE) and the Baltic countries, as well as Finland ... (North-Western HE) ....
    The remote and island territories of the Russian Federation (the Republic of Kazakhstan, Kaliningrad region, Sakhalin region, Kamchatka, Novaya Zemlya, etc.), which are part of the HE and KSF, would give the additional status of the Defensive areas subordinate in peacetime to the commander of the HE and KSF .. ..
  7. faterdom 6 June 2020 16: 25 New
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    То, что Арктика - отдельная история с кучей своих особенностей (мягко говоря) теперь понятно даже американцам. И защищать ее надо в едином замысле: морские пути, морские базы флота, заводы, шельф, небо, берег. И неважно будет это называться округом, флотом, или еще там как (я бы это сформулировал арктической группой сил в статусе округа).
    А то еще в советское время все громадные территории Коми, Архангельской области и во многом Карелии рассмтривались как второй эшелон обороны западной границы на севере. То есть мы все готовились к давно прошедшей второй мировой войне... к тому как и где она велась.
    То что было сделано при Сердюкове - гигантский ЗВО, куда входила вся европейская часть России кроме юга, в том числе и Москва, а управление округом в Петербурге - это я не знаю подготовка к чему... К сдаче? К потере управления войсками как у генерала Павлова в первый день той войны? Оптимизация ети....
  8. Petrol cutter 6 June 2020 20: 02 New
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    "The Northern Fleet will become the fifth military district"
    Is it good or bad?
    To a certain extent, those edges are close to me. For five years of stay.
    1. Paranoid50 7 June 2020 00: 31 New
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      Quote: Benzorez
      Is it good or bad?

      All right.
  9. Cyril G ... 7 June 2020 14: 50 New
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    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    We have great problems with the command of the fleets, because officers serve before the admiral's shoulder straps either on surface or on submarines. Accordingly, some do not know the surface ships, others know the submarines, and neither of them really knows the naval aviation.


    I can not agree with this thesis. As a result, we have a systemic problem ...