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Warsaw has raised tariffs for pumping gas through the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline

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Warsaw has raised tariffs for pumping gas through the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline

Poland continues to try to get as much money as possible from Gazprom. According to a statement by the Polish Energy Regulatory Authority (URE), Warsaw has raised tariffs for transporting gas through the Polish section of the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline. New tariffs come into force from 2021.


The head of URE approved a tariff for natural gas transmission services for 2021 for the Polish section of the Yamal-Europe transit gas pipeline system, owned by EuRoPol GAZ

- said in a statement.

According to the decree, from 2021 the tariff for the gas operator GazSystem will be increased by 10-13% depending on the type of fuel at the entrance to Poland. On gas output, the tariff will increase by 0,1%. At the same time, for the gas operator EuRoPolGAZ, the tariff for pumping methane gas through Poland increased by 16,5% compared to the current tariff.

Recall that Warsaw accuses Gazprom of allegedly non-compliance with the 1996 Yamal contract for the supply of Russian gas to Poland and demands a reduction in the price of its supply through the Yamal-Europe pipeline. The Poles also accuse the Russian company of failing to comply with the decisions of the Stockholm arbitration, according to which Gazprom was supposed to reduce the cost of gas supplies to Poland. Gazprom, in turn, appealed the arbitration decision.

On May 26, gas transit through the Yamal-Europe pipeline through Poland to Germany was stopped, but on June 1 it was resumed again.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 June 2020 06: 29 New
    20
    Do not wash, so ride. And this (dirty tricks, lawsuits, insults, etc.) will continue from the Polish, Baltic, Ukrainian and other parties until we start sensitively giving hand in hand and not looking back to the west, but what will they say.
    New tariffs come into force from 2021.
    For six months, a lot of things can change, let's see.
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 6 June 2020 06: 58 New
      +6
      It seems that the Germans from the Polish freaks are not enthusiastic. They will begin to put pressure on the Poles.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 6 June 2020 07: 04 New
        +5
        That which is not enthusiastic can be assumed, because an increase in transit prices will entail an increase in gas prices. But will they begin to put pressure on the Poles - the question?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 6 June 2020 12: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: rotmistr60
          That which is not enthusiastic can be assumed, because an increase in transit prices will entail an increase in gas prices. But will they begin to put pressure on the Poles - the question?
          In fact, the situation seems to be PARADOXAL and extremely BLUE in relation to Russia from the Polish side. Namely.
          In Poland, there are only 2 sections of the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline with Russian gas:
          1. One passes in transit through Poland to Germany from R. Belarus.
          2. The other - it delivers gas directly to Warsaw through R. Belarus.

          Currently, the owner of the Polish section of the Yamal-Europe pipe is EuRoPol GAZ. Wherein the Polish and Russian sides each own 48% of the shares in it, another 4% is owned by the Polish company Gas Trading SA., which serves the Polish section of the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline.
          But the OPERATOR of natural gas throughout the gas transmission system in Poland is the UCP Gaz-System SA (Polish: Operator Gazociągów Przesyłowych GAS-SYSTEM SA). This company was established in 2004 as a subsidiary of PGNiG (Polish Oil and Gas Mining Co.) under the name PGNiG - Przesył Sp. Z OO, and then - in 2005 - all its shares were transferred to the State Treasury - i.e. nationalized by Poland - and was renamed the UCP Gaz-System SA.
          And now this OGP company Gaz-System SA owns and operates the entire GTS in Poland, EXCEPT for the Polish section of the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline owned by Euro SA Pol Gaz. And, as I understand it, the Polish section of Yamal-Warsaw.

          And now ATTENTION! Currently - this Polish UCP Gaz-System SA is also responsible for the CONSTRUCTION of the LNG terminal in иноwinoujцеcie and the Baltic gas pipeline between Poland and Denmark. And the Polish government also really needs money for this CONSTRUCTION. But where to get them? We decided to rip off from Russia - from Gazprom! And in the meanest way - and not small! Namely.

          One side. Poland decided to tear 10 times more from Russia for transporting gas to Europe, without affecting, in fact, Germany itself in any way! This is for that Germany and the entire EU be on the side of Poland against Russia. Those., this is to knock down the heads of Germany and the EU with Russia to change the price of Russian gas.
          And on the other hand. Poland already raises the question of allegedly 15-year losses incurred by Poland from Poland’s agreement with Russia in the amount of more than 848 million zlotys (more than $ 200 million)which is why the former members of the board of EuRoPol GAZ - Mikhail Sh., Zdislav J and Miroslav - have already been arrested in Poland.
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 6 June 2020 11: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: ltc35
        They will begin to put pressure on the Poles.

        And why push ....
        "The report specifies that 16,5% is an increase in comparison with the current tariff, namely the tariff approved for 2017. In subsequent years, the Polish regulator tried to increase this tariff, but Europol Gaz is still blocking these actions through the courts. URE notes that the tariff set for 2020 is 15,4% higher than the current one, thus the tariff set for 2021 will be 0,95% higher than the tariff set for 2020. This is close to the estimate inflation in the EU, which, according to the European Commission's forecast, will be 0,6% this year.https: //www.kommersant.ru/doc/4372144
        And for comparison - "So, at the current zloty exchange rate, the rates for booking for a quarter are $ 7,4 per thousand cubic meters, for a month - $ 8,4, and a day - $ 13. This is 2,5-4 times cheaper, than the cost of transit of Russian gas through Ukraine.
        https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2020/06/01/c-1-iyunya-polshe-vse-ravno-skolko-gazprom-podast-gaza-dlya-tranzita
    2. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 6 June 2020 07: 30 New
      0
      until we start sensitively giving hands and not looking back to the west, but what will they say

      What, by whom ?! Can you army ?! Need to make them respect themselves? Do you forcibly want to sell gas or something? Does your market play according to state laws?
      1. mark2
        mark2 6 June 2020 07: 36 New
        +2
        And what does the market have to do with it? This is a bazaar.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 6 June 2020 17: 00 New
          0
          The Poles also accuse the Russian company of non-compliance with the decisions of the Stockholm Arbitration, according to which Gazprom was supposed to reduce the cost of gas supplies to Poland.

          And you (Poles) walk around the bazaar (market), bargain!
          Quote: mark2
          And what does the market have to do with it? This is a bazaar.
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 June 2020 07: 37 New
      13
      Quote: rotmistr60
      For six months, a lot of things can change, let's see.

      Even if it changes, there will be nothing to look at. Already seen enough of the feuds of Ukrainian NAFTOGAZ and GAZPROM. I won the FRIENDSHIP (gas pipeline).
      The only time that something has changed in a direction favorable to Russia (although, how to look) is the termination of the contract on Mistral. In all other respects, the country (for some reason) makes concessions, paying fines, compensations, transferring shares and assets ...
      PS Sometimes I get the impression that our army is armed with bows with arrows and spears. lol
      1. CSKA
        CSKA 8 June 2020 11: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: ROSS 42
        paying fines, compensations, transferring stocks and assets ...

        What compensation did we pay? And what shares and assets did we transfer and to whom?
    4. Yezhov
      Yezhov 6 June 2020 09: 41 New
      -4
      Quote: rotmistr60
      For six months, a lot of things can change, let's see.

      I also hope so .. Generally insolent!
    5. Vend
      Vend 6 June 2020 10: 48 New
      -3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Do not wash, so ride. And this (dirty tricks, lawsuits, insults, etc.) will continue from the Polish, Baltic, Ukrainian and other parties until we start sensitively giving hand in hand and not looking back to the west, but what will they say.
      New tariffs come into force from 2021.
      For six months, a lot of things can change, let's see.

      Well, Gazprom will increase the price of selling gas to Poland, and maybe all of Europe))
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 6 June 2020 11: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Do not wash, so ride. And this (dirty tricks, lawsuits, insults, etc.) will continue from the Polish, Baltic, Ukrainian and other parties until we start sensitively giving hand in hand and not looking back to the west, but what will they say.
        New tariffs come into force from 2021.
        For six months, a lot of things can change, let's see.

        Well, Gazprom will increase the price of selling gas to Poland, and maybe all of Europe))

        This is what the United States is seeking, through Ukraine and Poland, to equalize the price of its gas on the European market.
        They think the most cunning of all ... "kindergarten" ...
        1. Vend
          Vend 6 June 2020 15: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: Wend
          Quote: rotmistr60
          Do not wash, so ride. And this (dirty tricks, lawsuits, insults, etc.) will continue from the Polish, Baltic, Ukrainian and other parties until we start sensitively giving hand in hand and not looking back to the west, but what will they say.
          New tariffs come into force from 2021.
          For six months, a lot of things can change, let's see.

          Well, Gazprom will increase the price of selling gas to Poland, and maybe all of Europe))

          This is what the United States is seeking, through Ukraine and Poland, to equalize the price of its gas on the European market.
          They think the most cunning of all ... "kindergarten" ...

          Maybe you are right
    6. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 12: 32 New
      +5
      Please open the mechanism of "giving hands"
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 6 June 2020 14: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Zorin
        Please open the mechanism of "giving hands"

        For example, compare the cost of the final pumping of our gas to Germany through Poland, Ukraine and SP-1 and try to reduce the volume of transit through Poland by increasing transit through Ukraine.
        Now we are not in such a bad situation, because we are forced to load Ukrainian transit for several years ahead, and this gives us the opportunity to manipulate the volume of pumping through Poland. And after the Bulgarians have completed their section of the gas pipeline, we will still have room for maneuver. I don’t even mention about SP-2 - it will be possible to speak about this factor no earlier than 2021.
    7. 7,62h54
      7,62h54 6 June 2020 14: 34 New
      0
      It is necessary to give not by hand, but by the neck. Better remember
    8. Serhio Dias_2
      Serhio Dias_2 7 June 2020 20: 21 New
      -1
      You won’t give hands especially, because there they are aimed at LNG. That's all.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 June 2020 06: 32 New
    +9
    Let Gazprom decide whether to pump gas through the apple empire, or to redistribute the flow along other branches. That is why it is necessary to complete the gas pipeline to Germany!
    1. knn54
      knn54 6 June 2020 08: 07 New
      +6
      The cost of transit of Russian gas through Ukraine is about $ 31,7 per thousand cubic meters. Poland receives only $ 7 per thousand cubic meters.
    2. ancient
      ancient 6 June 2020 13: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      That is why it is necessary to complete the gas pipeline to Germany!

      You need it, you need ..... but who will give it ... to finish it recourse

      The Danes (not without the "prompting" of the Americans took a pose ... and ....) everything "rested" on the fact that the Danish energy regulator does not issue a license to resume work precisely because of the lack of international insurance from "Academician Chersky".
      At the same time, the Danes do not recognize Russian insurers.
      "Akademik" is in the German Mukran and is waiting for the resolution of the conflict.

      It is clear that not a single international insurance company will risk becoming under sanctions even for a triple insurance fee.
      Losing business because of a one-time contract is stupid. bully

      At the same time, Denmark's position is quite unambiguous - there is no insurance - there is no license (also, probably, "Russian classics" are read wink ... so "- Insurance in the morning - license in the evening. Insurance in the evening - license in the morning. - Is it possible to have a license in the morning, and insurance in the evening? - You can, but insurance ahead!" wassat

      Well, Gazprom has not yet come up with what to do about it. request
      Given that he extremely clumsily tried the other day to solve the problem by transferring toxic property to a completely non-core office dealing with things infinitely far from pipeline systems, the quality of lawyers in Gazprom is not so hot. fool
      It is unlikely that he will be able to create some kind of furious scheme that the Americans will miss and do not have time to react. crying
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 6 June 2020 21: 44 New
        0
        If Denmark rests - "Knight's Move" - ​​Germany "returns to the home harbor" of the Jutland Peninsula, with a referendum of course. Jutland becomes a federal state of the Federal Republic of Germany good ... Faroe Islands and about. Greenland "are returning to their native harbor" - to Russia ... good
        1. ancient
          ancient 6 June 2020 22: 41 New
          +2
          Quote: cat Rusich
          "Knight's Move" - ​​FRG "returns to home harbor"

          Well, I don’t even know how to react .... laughing Rather, I will believe in the "replacement" or castling of "friend Leksei", to "friend Igor" wassat as

          laughing bully
    3. Serhio Dias_2
      Serhio Dias_2 7 June 2020 20: 22 New
      0
      The branch can be a lot ... Who will buy it?
  3. Comrade
    Comrade 6 June 2020 06: 39 New
    -1
    Warsaw accuses Gazprom of allegedly failing to comply with the 1996 Yamal contract for the supply of Russian gas to Poland and demands that prices for its supply via the Yamal-Europe pipeline be reduced.
    Clowns, lower their prices laughing
    In fact, Poland is simply an American puppet, acting on the orders of an overseas puppeteer.
  4. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 6 June 2020 06: 48 New
    +3
    Have you decided to arrange "time to collect stones" for Gazprom?
  5. Eug
    Eug 6 June 2020 06: 50 New
    +5
    Are they able to change the tariff unilaterally? Or does someone agree on this increase?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 June 2020 09: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: Eug
      What can they change the tariff unilaterally? Or does someone agree on this increase?

      Now they can. The old treaty rested in Bose, but there is no new agreement on transit with Poland, and therefore we only lease the capacities of their gas pipeline, now they, as landlords, will do a damn about. Ideally, this is to stop pumping in their area altogether, but this is not in our interests yet, until we complete the construction of SP-2. But what will happen later will be more interesting.
      1. Eug
        Eug 6 June 2020 12: 45 New
        0
        In theory, the rental price should also be clearly specified. A common practice is% of the rental value. This value is almost always known and is reflected in the annual corporate report. It is contraindicated to play with it, because it is closely related to the value of shares, insurance, etc. How can you not stipulate this - I cannot imagine .. although if the gas pipeline has been modernized and its cost has increased - then everything is correct.
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    1. Genry
      Genry 6 June 2020 07: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: mark1
      Increased but pumping continues, then Gazprom is all .....

      It is written that they will rise from 2021. Or didn’t you read?
  7. venik
    venik 6 June 2020 06: 54 New
    +3
    "....Poland continues to try knock out as much money as possible from Gazprom.... "
    "....Recall that Warsaw accuses Gazprom of allegedly non-compliance with the 1996 Yamal contract on Russian gas supplies to Poland and demands lower prices for its delivery via the Yamal-Europe pipeline...... "
    =======
    Oh, this is a SWEET word .... FREEBIE!!!
    How many followers and ardent supporters she has !!!
    And proud "psheki", as always - "in first ranks "!
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 June 2020 07: 30 New
      14
      Quote: venik
      Oh, this is a SWEET word .... FREEZE !!!

      What are you saying? Was this Gazprom not caring for the content of the contracts, but stupidly pumping gas to receive dollars and euros, replenishing the pockets of owners and shareholders? If you now say that GAZPROM is the property of the Russian people, I just laugh at you ... post.
      This is a common stranglehold when state interests are put in second place after personal ones. Just think with your head: Poland dictates the conditions of Germany and Russia. Clearly - Ukraine. These whole life they lived on Russian gas biting apples and other fruits and vegetables delivered to the RSFSR. What about Poland? With what kind of power structures did she start yapping louder than her weight?
      When people come to power, whose life will be directly connected with the development and prosperity of the country, with an increase in the well-being of the whole people, then they will cease to export raw materials from the country to Polish pennies (Euro cents) and American cents.
      It was necessary to get to such a state in the economy when any foreign country with a favorable climate had the right to insert its sentences, lines, words and even punctuation marks into Russian treaty documents, registers and legal acts ...
      No.
  8. prior
    prior 6 June 2020 07: 27 New
    -2
    The solution to the issue on the surface. Sell ​​gas only for rubles, sell rubles for 70 dollars.
    Payment upon delivery at the Russian border. And let yourself raise the price of transit as much as you like.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 6 June 2020 10: 45 New
      +6
      Buy from other countries that's all
    2. cniza
      cniza 6 June 2020 13: 00 New
      0
      Quote: prior
      The solution to the issue on the surface. Sell ​​gas only for rubles, sell rubles for 70 dollars.
      Payment upon delivery at the Russian border. And let yourself raise the price of transit as much as you like.


      Oh, if so simple it would be possible to solve this problem ..., everything is very complicated there.
  9. svp67
    svp67 6 June 2020 07: 27 New
    +1
    Poland continues to try to knock out as much money as possible from Gazprom.
    Stupid policy, with this the prices for the final product will also rise ... This already happened as soon as supplies through this gas pipeline were suspended. Their main task, for the sake of the "big white lord", is to make our gas supplies less competitive with respect to "shale gas"
    1. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 12: 38 New
      +2
      Logically, but in what place is Poland losing? Due to the fact that Gazprom’s gas will cost Western Europe (the same Germany) more expensive, Poland is neither cold nor hot
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 June 2020 12: 58 New
        +2
        The price does not depend on the cost of the tariff for pumping, from the word in any way.
        1. Oleg Zorin
          Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 13: 03 New
          +1
          Yes you are right. Then Poland is all the same all the same
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 June 2020 13: 26 New
            0
            But we don’t really, they reduce our profit, therefore we need to finish S.P. faster 2 ...
      2. svp67
        svp67 6 June 2020 13: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Oleg Zorin
        Logically, but in what place is Poland losing?

        And the prices? In the EU, they are formed by the "spot market" ... As soon as supplies through this pipeline were stopped, the prices on it increased and Poland had to purchase gas more expensive, since long-term contracts are now prohibited in the EU and prices are set monthly ...
  10. Sibguest
    Sibguest 6 June 2020 07: 38 New
    +1
    Churchill’s description of Poland from the 30s and 40s is not relevant.
    Modern Poland is an aging bitchy prostitute who is already attracting interest from clients.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 June 2020 12: 57 New
      0
      So what conclusion? , right time to rest.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 6 June 2020 07: 39 New
    +4
    They need to bite off the babosiks anywhere, whatever they like ... to improve their balance, otherwise the payment for the "freedom molecules" will go sideways for their own consumers, and they will not be happy about it. Everything is quite expected, plus the haberdasher is always ready to help the cardinal ...
    Everything is expected.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 6 June 2020 08: 30 New
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      "freedom molecules" will come out sideways

      Yes, it has already happened ... it is not for nothing that they are so hysterical about SP-2 ... It is very difficult for them. What if they finish building ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 June 2020 09: 06 New
        +2
        Here is the flounder ... pah, the cod spawns and explodes, build.
        And then Frau Bundes, or whoever follows her, will show everyone in the geyrops their deutsche mother.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 6 June 2020 09: 17 New
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Here is a flounder ... pah, cod spawns and explodes, build

          There is no cod. Denmark there is another crowbar in the wheel ... Insurance, damn it, I need ... European. and the US promised annihilating sanctions. For any European insurance company. Maybe this Denmark is generally superfluous? I would sell Greenland striped-eared, well, my territory at the same time ... how much is that territory?
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 June 2020 09: 18 New
            0
            So from the very beginning they knew that they would PIT. A lot and inspired.
            Need to break through and THIS?
            1. Mountain shooter
              Mountain shooter 6 June 2020 09: 44 New
              +5
              Quote: rocket757
              Need to break through and THIS?

              Are there options? There are no options. A la ger ... What did the "European International" do? Introduce into the public consciousness of Europeans the image of Russia - as Mordor, which can be shit just like that, because, because ... Not paying attention to anything. Well, Russia could not allow the American base in Sevastopol ... is it really not clear to someone? This would mean that there is NO more Russia on the Black Sea! Oh Tagged, what have you done, toad ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 June 2020 11: 00 New
                +1
                Scolding all sorts of different, pity yourself, wait for pity from others .... useless. It is necessary to break through, there is NO other way out!
                1. cniza
                  cniza 6 June 2020 12: 54 New
                  +3
                  That's it, we must find solutions and go ahead.
            2. cniza
              cniza 6 June 2020 12: 55 New
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              So from the very beginning they knew that they would PIT. A lot and inspired.
              Need to break through and THIS?


              And how many more nasty things will be ahead, they were worried not so, and a solution can always and should be found.
        2. cniza
          cniza 6 June 2020 12: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Here is the flounder ... pah, the cod spawns and explodes, build.
          And then Frau Bundes, or whoever follows her, will show everyone in the geyrops their deutsche mother.


          Cod is just an excuse; in fact, there other problems are solved which are not spoken out loud.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 June 2020 14: 30 New
            +1
            It would be used, but these people will always find a reason to run into!
            The owner said face ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 June 2020 16: 46 New
              +2
              They snarl at the owner and do the right thing.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 June 2020 17: 31 New
                +1
                Ha, the owner should not only demand. It is their responsibility to have and fulfill. It seems he forgot about it ..... the result is obvious.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 6 June 2020 17: 39 New
                  +2
                  He not only forgot, but decided to make money on it as well ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 6 June 2020 17: 45 New
                    +1
                    Exactly, exactly ... the owner’s priorities have changed.
                    Being a mongrel forever undernourished ...... herself, herself!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 6 June 2020 18: 06 New
                      +2
                      And at the end he will wipe his legs and throw him out.
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 18: 25 New
                        +1
                        The obvious result, because the owner is just that.
                      2. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 18: 38 New
                        +2
                        There are more than enough examples before our eyes, but it seems to them that they will not do this to them ...
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 19: 44 New
                        +1
                        Let GEYROP deal with them.
                        We put crosses on the map, where necessary, and all business.
                      4. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 19: 52 New
                        +2
                        It looks like Europe with them with the device ...
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 19: 54 New
                        +1
                        They put it on her ... themselves, now themselves
                      6. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 19: 56 New
                        +2
                        Yes, this will not change anything, who and what, but the result is clear - now complete independence without money ...
                      7. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 20: 02 New
                        0
                        Oh BABOSIKI is a theme!
                        It’s like we don’t care, but the screech will reach us if / when there starts a showdown.
                      8. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 21: 10 New
                        +2
                        They stop giving them money and I suspect that they don’t know either.
                      9. rocket757
                        rocket757 7 June 2020 10: 42 New
                        +1
                        There, after all, the big brother is "nearby".
                        We don’t know how he will behave, but he can do this and that!
                        We will see.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 6 June 2020 07: 49 New
    +2
    Honestly, this whole story begins to surprise. We, with the stubbornness of a ram, are promoting our gas pipelines, selling cheap fuel to those who are trying to trick us, rob, put sticks in the wheels of our projects. Can all eyes be turned towards Asia? There alone, India and China can more than compensate for the Polish ways. It is most likely to loop the system and transfer gas to those who are ready for a normal dialogue
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 6 June 2020 09: 08 New
      +1
      Walk through the "bazaar" and look for someone who is too honest there?
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 June 2020 12: 49 New
        +2
        Yes it's endless fuss hi
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 6 June 2020 14: 33 New
          +1
          This resource, they say, is finite .... then they will find something else soldier
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 June 2020 16: 48 New
            +2
            Unfortunately, it is still not clear for certain how this hydrocarbon substance appears and how much is there (shale does not count).
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 6 June 2020 17: 33 New
              +1
              In any case, everything is of course.
              Those who are friends with reason are aware of this and take measures for the future, albeit a distant one.
              1. cniza
                cniza 6 June 2020 17: 40 New
                +2
                Not everyone understands this, someone lives by the principle - "after us, even a flood" ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 6 June 2020 17: 49 New
                  +1
                  Well, yes ... there were such people near Norilsk. All of them together in that slurry and dip ... you can not even take it out, the environment will be cleaner.
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 6 June 2020 18: 08 New
                    +1
                    Oh, this is a classic - "maybe it will carry it through", it did not carry it and it is not yet known how it will all end ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 6 June 2020 18: 27 New
                      +1
                      Orders have been given, promises too .... we will see.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 18: 39 New
                        +2
                        You can watch it, but will everyone show it.
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 19: 47 New
                        +1
                        Now it’s impossible to conceal anything, besides, the topmost one will have to prove himself a master!
                        Greens will be allowed there for sure, it just so happens that it is in the interests of the highest.
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 19: 54 New
                        +2
                        God grant that everything would be tidied up faster ...
                      4. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 19: 56 New
                        +1
                        Take away. Now let everyone else check. We do not need such surprises.
                      5. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 19: 58 New
                        +2
                        There are such ancient reservoirs, every second, if not all, and time only until winter, may not be in time ...
                      6. rocket757
                        rocket757 6 June 2020 20: 05 New
                        +1
                        Now the dough is not measured to swell it is necessary .... but it was necessary to think earlier.
                      7. cniza
                        cniza 6 June 2020 21: 13 New
                        +2
                        So they hoped for permafrost and it melted, and so it exploded ...
                      8. rocket757
                        rocket757 7 June 2020 10: 44 New
                        +1
                        Well, this is a well-known, familiar topic ....
                        but roasted rooster is not the first time biting !!!
                        Only he who was not going to do that at all could not wake up.
  • Adepton
    Adepton 6 June 2020 12: 58 New
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    Maybe you really should turn all eyes towards Asia? There, India and China alone can more than compensate for the Polish habits. It is most likely to loop the system and transfer gas to those who are ready for a normal dialogue

    Yes, it seems they are already transferring gas to China, after such statements by the Poles and the junta in Kiev .. The most interesting thing is that it usually happens in the summer, but as winter begins, silence .. hi The most annoying thing is that all this later affects gas prices inside Russia .. That's the trouble ..!
  • Suslin
    Suslin 6 June 2020 08: 11 New
    +3
    All that remains for Gazprom is to file complaints with all European courts. Have sunk to negative profits, i.e. direct losses. And they are afraid to finish building the SP-2 and lose everything they can, and cannot do anything. And this is "our everything!" A disgrace to "effective managers"!
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 June 2020 08: 31 New
    -4
    Cut all the pipes in FIG. By supplying cheap gas to our civilizational rivals and Russophobia, we are developing their economy, not ours.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 June 2020 08: 33 New
    -3
    Rumor has it that the fight against Nord Stream - 2 is the fight between the United States and Germany, since it is cheap gas that will allow Germany to make more marginal products, and German industry is a direct competitor to the United States.

    LNG from the USA to Europe has never been a priority, priority is to Asia - it is useless to compete with pipes, but to make use of a more expensive route through Ukraine - that makes sense.
  • Sergey985
    Sergey985 6 June 2020 08: 48 New
    +8
    Excuse me, what kind of nonsense are you writing? That contract has ended. He more than satisfied with the Poles. It was impossible to extend it under the previous conditions, in connection with the current European legislation. For us (meaning Gazprom), the ideal option is the current state of affairs. The pipe laid through the territory of Poland is the property of the Poles. All expenses for maintaining it in working condition on them. Apart from Gazprom gas, there can be no other gas in it by definition. We need to drive gas through the pipe, we buy out the pumping power. No, the pipe is empty. I suspect that very soon the Poles will cut it into scrap metal. For Russophobia you have to pay.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 6 June 2020 11: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Sergey985
      The pipe laid in Poland is the property of the Poles

      Not quite - the pipe belongs to EuRoPol Gaz, - Gazprom - 48%, PGNiG - 48% and Gas-Trading SA - 4%
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 June 2020 09: 24 New
    -1
    Poland continues to try to knock out as much money as possible from Gazprom.

    But does the cost of transit not affect the price of the delivered goods?
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 June 2020 12: 47 New
      +2
      No, it does not, it is tied to the price of petroleum products and is constantly changing.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 6 June 2020 15: 07 New
        0
        Quote: cniza
        No, it does not, it is tied to the price of petroleum products and is constantly changing.

        Yes? And I, a sinful thing, thought that it affected, respectively.
        http://docs.cntd.ru/document/901901070
        https://inosmi.ru/politic/20200528/247513114.html
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 June 2020 16: 51 New
          0
          These are our internal affairs, and there are wolf laws on the market.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 6 June 2020 20: 24 New
            0
            I think that the principles are universal.
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 June 2020 21: 15 New
              -1
              The external energy market, it does not take into account the costs of the manufacturer, these are its problems ...
              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 7 June 2020 09: 51 New
                0
                Quote: cniza
                this is his problems...

                Yes? And for some reason I always thought that the larger the diameter of the gas pipeline (and its congestion is higher) or the more the consumer buys gas, the lower the tariffs and price will be for him. what
                In short, damn leg break ...
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 June 2020 10: 36 New
    -4
    The more Psheks will increase transit prices, the hotter the Germans will want (and help us) in laying pipe-2 and remove any restrictions on pumping volumes, following the example of their decision on pipe-1.
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 6 June 2020 14: 51 New
      0
      the hotter the Germans will want
      as it is clear from the article and the information on the comments, the Germans have folded their pens and are waiting, they cannot even insure "Academician Ch.", no, the Indians (Gazprom) do not care about their problems
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 June 2020 10: 41 New
    -2
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    Rumor has it that the fight against Nord Stream - 2 is the fight between the United States and Germany, since it is cheap gas that will allow Germany to make more marginal products, and German industry is a direct competitor to the United States.

    LNG from the USA to Europe has never been a priority, priority is to Asia - it is useless to compete with pipes, but to make use of a more expensive route through Ukraine - that makes sense.

    You wrote about this somehow not confidently. But in vain. For it is absolutely true. Is an example with the removal of any restrictions on the volume of gas through the pipe-1- not an example? Doesn’t the threat of the Germans impose draconian taxes on American liquid gas? And the example of getting out of sanctions, done by Siemens for installing their (!!!!!) turbines, which they recognized as not entirely their own?
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 6 June 2020 10: 53 New
    0
    As the article says, Poland decided to cut some money from Gazprom? This is not even funny. The end consumer will pay. The Germans will definitely be delighted. Taking this opportunity, I want to convey another international hello to European spiritual solidarity, and wish her further success in the fight against coronovirus and its consequences.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 June 2020 12: 45 New
      +2
      We cannot set prices, they are floating and are now practically the lowest ...
  • Andrey Ostroushko
    Andrey Ostroushko 6 June 2020 12: 35 New
    -1
    The increase in the tariff for pumping gas will be the cost of Russian gas for Western consumers. Again, this increased tariff will be paid by the consumer: the European economy and the Western consumer. Gazprom does not lose anything and remains with its economic profits. Who has done worse to anyone?
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 June 2020 12: 44 New
      +2
      So yes not so, the price is set by the market and now it can be said at the bottom, and costs are rising ...
  • cniza
    cniza 6 June 2020 12: 42 New
    0
    On May 26, gas transit through the Yamal-Europe pipeline through Poland to Germany was stopped, but on June 1 it was resumed again.


    So we will butt with them until we finish the joint venture 2 ...
    1. Adepton
      Adepton 6 June 2020 12: 48 New
      -4
      Quote: cniza
      So we will butt with them until we finish the joint venture 2 ...

      That's why Victor is eager to finish building the joint venture so as not to hear these freebie mongrels ... 130 km left!
      1. cniza
        cniza 6 June 2020 13: 03 New
        +2
        We would have to shut up the main thing, these themselves will shut up.
        1. Adepton
          Adepton 6 June 2020 13: 08 New
          -4
          Quote: cniza
          We would have to shut up the main thing, these themselves will shut up.

          With the main thing, everything is more serious .. The ocean protects them, although it has already begun there hi
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 June 2020 13: 28 New
            +1
            It seems that no ocean will help them, it’s too much evil they sowed, the time has come for the harvest ...
            1. Adepton
              Adepton 6 June 2020 13: 57 New
              -5
              Quote: cniza
              It seems that no ocean will help them, it’s too much evil they sowed, the time has come for the harvest ...

              So yes, but just like that they don’t surrender Victor .. The fight continues! soldier
              We would land on the continent, and there the Indians will join)))
              1. cniza
                cniza 6 June 2020 14: 03 New
                +1
                Not these are not our methods, we will go the other way ... hi
              2. Oleg Zorin
                Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 15: 02 New
                -1
                Seems to me it's already a clinic
  • Oleg Zorin
    Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 12: 44 New
    -1
    What got so excited was the shares in the "Polish" pipe: Gazprom - 48%, PGNiG - 48% and Gas-Trading SA - 4%. The national estate will receive its share for pumping
    1. Adepton
      Adepton 6 June 2020 13: 09 New
      -5
      Quote: Oleg Zorin
      What got so excited was the shares in the "Polish" pipe: Gazprom - 48%, PGNiG - 48% and Gas-Trading SA - 4%. The national estate will receive its share for pumping

      Russia wants to cut it off! And he will do it .. Bored bastards .. negative
      1. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin 6 June 2020 13: 13 New
        -1
        Cut off his share of 48%? Like a shot in your leg
        1. Adepton
          Adepton 6 June 2020 13: 24 New
          -4
          Quote: Oleg Zorin
          Cut off his share of 48%? Like a shot in your leg

          All cut off! Tired of freeloaders Russophobia feed .. hi
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 June 2020 14: 57 New
    0
    Psheki now, after Ukraine, of course, is the main support of the overseas Fuhrer on the eastern front. Even Aunt Angela from Germany promised a penalty for the most democratic gas from AI. But in Swinoujscie, liquefied gas will come at almost cost, especially when the rest of the pipes are equipped with plugs and there will be nowhere to go to pump for downloading rights. There are jokes about Russian business, it's time to compose about Polish. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 June 2020 14: 59 New
    0
    By the way, yes, Lyaksandru Rygoravych is a rather unpleasant hook on the left. good
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 June 2020 15: 08 New
    0
    I didn’t get into Gazprom - the day was in vain! laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 6 June 2020 15: 11 New
    0
    The consumer pays for everything. laughing
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 June 2020 16: 50 New
    -3
    Quote: Igoresha
    the hotter the Germans will want
    as it is clear from the article and the information on the comments, the Germans have folded their pens and are waiting, they cannot even insure "Academician Ch.", no, the Indians (Gazprom) do not care about their problems

    Tell me, why do they fall under the sanctions threatened by penguins? Just the insurance company is threatened to be pressed. Alexandrov Matrosov they never had, and never will be. It was the Bolsheviks who mutilated our consciousness with such concepts as proletarian solidarity, the brotherhood of peoples and so on. How did the German proletarian brothers teach us class solidarity in 1941? Do not wait. There is no hope. Do not ask. But make sure that without you they can’t do it without a tooth.
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 June 2020 16: 57 New
    0
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: Eug
    What can they change the tariff unilaterally? Or does someone agree on this increase?

    Now they can. The old treaty rested in Bose, but there is no new agreement on transit with Poland, and therefore we only lease the capacities of their gas pipeline, now they, as landlords, will do a damn about. Ideally, this is to stop pumping in their area altogether, but this is not in our interests yet, until we complete the construction of SP-2. But what will happen later will be more interesting.

    So, if they resolve the transit issue through Poland for a longer time, the Germans will be very happy about this. And those who receive gas from this pipe. This will increase their desire to finish building, finally, this annoying pipe.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 6 June 2020 17: 29 New
    0
    "According to the order, from 2021 the tariff for the gas operator GazSystem will be increased by 10-13%"
    So it is necessary to increase the gas price for the "gentlemen" by 20-26%. So that we fought for, we ran into
  • aviator6768
    aviator6768 6 June 2020 18: 45 New
    0
    Managers "dreams come true" have only one hope (only one - the cold winter 20-21 ... our conditions ... We will see, in principle - all the same, from this fuss "it is not hot, not cold" ... just try ... This year, the gasprom has such losses that +/- a couple of yards already than ... (unproved hello hot with his "trifle")
  • NordUral
    NordUral 6 June 2020 21: 36 New
    +1
    As a citizen of Russia, I was rather fed up with sponsoring the sale of natural and labor-produced resources and products all over the world (at sassy prices), buying all of this either at overpriced prices, or a low-quality product. It’s time to start tying these. And return to the industrial economy with new technological opportunities. True, this is possible only within the framework of another socio-economic reality. What I hope for.