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Another project 20380 corvette for Pacific Fleet sent to the delivery base

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Built at the Amur Shipyard in Komsomolsk-on-Amur for the Pacific fleet corvette of project 20380 "Hero of the Russian Federation Aldar Tsydenzhapov" sent to the delivery base in Vladivostok. This was announced by the city resource komcity.ru.


According to the resource, the new corvette, loaded onto the Zeya transport floating dock, went to Vladivostok on June 3, 2020. The float dock was brought to the water area with the help of tugboats, along the Amur River “Zeya” you will only go during daylight hours. It is noted that the transportation of the corvette was postponed several times due to bad weather conditions.

It is reported that at the delivery base, the corvette will undergo mooring tests, verification of all systems and weapons. The act of technical readiness of the ship for the settlement of the crew was signed on May 29, the official settlement of the team on the corvette is scheduled for June 25.

The corvette of project 20380 “Hero of the Russian Federation Aldar Tsydenzhapov” was laid in Komsomolsk-on-Amur on July 22, 2015, on September 12, 2019 it was removed from the boathouse to the outfitting and transport-launch floating dock, and on October 21, 2019 it was physically launched from the dock. On May 25, 2020, it was introduced into the Zeya transport floating dock for transportation to Vladivostok. The commissioning of the Pacific Fleet is scheduled for the end of this year.

Project 20380 corvettes are classified as 2nd-class multipurpose combat surface ships of the near sea zone. At the same time, NATO considers project 20380 too large for corvettes, and defines them as frigates. Project 20380 was developed by the Almaz design bureau.

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  1. Atlant-1164
    Atlant-1164 5 June 2020 17: 12 New
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    7 feet under the keel .. "Aldar Tsydenzhapov"!
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 5 June 2020 17: 26 New
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      I am joining. 7 feet under the keel of the new corvette.
      I apologize for something off topic, but the news is important and also related to the Far East.
      JSC "Industrial Technologies" (Severodvinsk), by order of TsENKI, completed the manufacture and testing of the product "Launch table with a set of gas lining and gas reflector." Shipment preparations are currently underway.
      “A giant launch pad for Angara weighing more than 2 thousand tons is leaving from Severodvinsk in the Arkhangelsk region ... Already in July, the Barents universal cargo ship will launch along the Northern Sea Route with a launch pad and a vacuum installation complex for the Vostochny cosmodrome manned program,” a film about the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome hosted by TsENKI.
      Having passed the Northern Sea Route, a vessel with oversized cargo will enter the port of Sovetskaya Gavan, where the launch pad and the vacuum installation complex will be loaded onto barges and delivered to the Vostochny Cosmodrome by September by the Amur and Zeya rivers.

      http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/133123/
      1. ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2
        ANDREY MIKHAILOV_2 5 June 2020 21: 51 New
        0
        One news is wonderful another good good
      2. Grits
        Grits 6 June 2020 00: 52 New
        -3
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Having passed the Northern Sea Route, a vessel with oversized cargo will enter the port of Sovetskaya Gavan, where the launch pad and the vacuum installation complex will be loaded onto barges and delivered to the Vostochny Cosmodrome by September by the Amur and Zeya rivers.

        By September - this means pulling along the rivers will be at the very peak of the passage of the Far Eastern typhoons and floods.
        It's a shame that on the shore of Zeya you still have to disassemble for a further transportation a few dozen kilometers. - on the ground.
        1. Far East
          Far East 6 June 2020 02: 40 New
          0
          (The rivers will be at the very peak of the Far Eastern typhoons and floods.) No, you're wrong. it is sausage now, until the beginning of November you can safely.
          1. Grits
            Grits 7 June 2020 01: 27 New
            -1
            Quote: Far East
            No, you are wrong. it is sausage now, until the beginning of November you can dare

            For 11 years I have been working in the Civil Defense and Emergency Situations system in Primorye and I know what I'm talking about. And participated in the aftermath of many floods. If you are a Far East, then you should know that it is from the end of July to the beginning of September that the typhoons and floods season falls.
            1. Far East
              Far East 8 June 2020 12: 40 New
              -1
              (For 11 years I have been working in the Civil Defense and Emergency Situations system in Primorye and I know what I'm talking about.) And? I have been living on the coast of the Tatar Strait for more than forty years, went to the seas. I worked on tankers, served the Sea of ​​Okhotsk expeditions. and, turn the weather, local know very well! Do not align Seaside cr. with the coast of the Tatar Strait! I KNOW WHAT I TALK ABOUT. "you are our rescuer"
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 5 June 2020 17: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      7 feet under the keel .. "Aldar Tsydenzhapov"!

      I don’t understand one thing - why in the Zeya dock he was transferred to a development base?
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 5 June 2020 18: 12 New
        +7
        1. probably not enough depth of the Amur channel.
        2. Well, he has not yet passed even mooring trials.
        3. in the article
        The act of technical readiness of the ship for the settlement of the crew was signed on May 29, the official settlement of the team on the corvette is scheduled for June 25

        How else should they overtake him without a crew?
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 5 June 2020 18: 14 New
          0
          Quote: alexmach
          How else should they overtake him without a crew?

          As usual - in tow.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 5 June 2020 18: 17 New
            +2
            Well then depth. The dock has already been mentioned somewhere that it is necessary for launching ships built at the NEA.
            1. Bashkirkhan
              Bashkirkhan 6 June 2020 09: 29 New
              +2
              20380 are the most deep-seated surface ships that have ever been built there. The leaders of the project 38 had a draft of 4,2 meters, the destroyers of the project 7 - generally only 3,1 meters, and at 20380, due to the bulb with the hull, the draft was as much as 7,6 meters, he would simply demolish it when he tried to go from the factory to the sea.
          2. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 5 June 2020 18: 38 New
            +1
            Admiral Gorshkov could tell a lot of interesting things about towing warships from Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 5 June 2020 19: 06 New
            +6
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Quote: alexmach
            How else should they overtake him without a crew?

            As usual - in tow.

            It seems that the towed ship (vessel) should also have a minimum crew. Or am I missing something in towing?
            Py.Sy. Do not kick much. In towing except for aircraft, “Muscovites” and “Lada” did not participate.
            1. Petrol cutter
              Petrol cutter 5 June 2020 21: 04 New
              +5
              "It seems that the towed ship (vessel) should also have a minimum crew."
              Actually, yes. We call it (in common people) - a distillation team.
              If there is no full-time crew.
              And so, team members must be present at the new building. They arrive at the factory in the final stages of construction. Take the ship, participate in its trials.
              Oh! I climbed into the jungle already ... In general, somehow ...
            2. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 5 June 2020 21: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: Piramidon
              Or am I missing something in towing?

              Here we are in equal positions.

              Quote: Benzorez
              Actually, yes. We call it (in common people) - a distillation team.

              Therefore, I thank you and alexmach and Benzoreza for clarification.
              hi
        2. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 5 June 2020 20: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: alexmach
          probably not enough depth of the Amur channel

          Here is the reason and the main, many shallows. The fact that the corvette of project 20380 creeps into the transport and launch floating dock of project 17571 Zeya of the Amur Shipbuilding Plant, which was originally intended for receiving nuclear submarines with dock masses of up to 7820 tons from the shore stocks of the shipyard and launching them on water, is a gift of fate.
          Photo of a submarine of project project 971 in the floating dock "Zeya". You can’t say exactly what kind of boat it is — either K-263 Barnaul or K-322 Sperm Whale. Both of these boats were transported from Kamchatka to Bolshoi Kamen and Komsomolsk-on-Amur, respectively. Transportation was carried out in 2002-2003. Both boats failed to repair and were excluded from the fleet.
        3. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 5 June 2020 22: 24 New
          +1
          "2. Well, he has not yet passed even mooring trials.
          3. in the article
          The act of technical readiness of the ship for the settlement of the crew was signed on May 29, the official settlement of the team on the corvette is scheduled for June 25

          How else should they overtake him without a crew? "
          I allow myself to disagree (although I may be wrong). I spread my understanding of events purely.
          Most likely he passed the mooring tests. How without this? .. How else would they put him in the PD ?!
          Further. The actual settlement of a full-fledged crew does not correlate with the transportation of the order to the front desk. For these events, the entire personnel of the ship on board is not needed at all. The crew is partially present. The main activities and responsibilities lie with the team transporting this vessel to its destination.
        4. Fitter65
          Fitter65 6 June 2020 01: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: alexmach
          1. probably not enough depth of the Amur channel.
          2. Well, he has not yet passed even mooring trials.

          A common occurrence for the Komsomol plant. Submarines are also lowered in the dock
          1. mmaxx
            mmaxx 6 June 2020 05: 24 New
            +1
            People here poke in the face with incompetence and erudition, but they have no idea that from Komsomolsk all ships and submarines are similarly withdrawn
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 6 June 2020 10: 17 New
              +1
              People here poke in the face with incompetence and erudition

              Yes, you need to be calmer with each other and also with each, especially ordinary news
              1. mmaxx
                mmaxx 6 June 2020 14: 19 New
                0
                They stuck me out. You see, I don’t like Soviet admirals! wink wink
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 June 2020 18: 40 New
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        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        I don’t understand one thing - why in the Zeya dock he was transferred to a development base?

        So historically. smile
        Shipbuilding on the Amur is limited by the fairways of the Amur. Therefore, they build “as much as possible” on the Amur, and then drag it to Vladivostok for completion. Such a procedure is not unusual - in the same way "in two stages" were built, for example, the Potemkin EDB in Nikolaev and then in Sevastopol.
        The main problem of such a two-stage process is the weather at the transition. In 1937, during the towing, the Pacific Fleet lost its first "seven" - EM "Resolute" was thrown into the rocks by a storm and broke. Kuznetsov and Gorshkov barely managed to evade responsibility.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 5 June 2020 21: 05 New
          +3
          Mr. Ivanov-Oktyabrsky, being a member of the commission, actively demanded that Sergei Georgievich lean against the wall ..... Then there were strange relations with the Soviet admirals ....
        2. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 5 June 2020 21: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Shipbuilding on the Amur is limited by the Amur channels

          Thank you Alex
          hi
      3. blackice
        blackice 6 June 2020 06: 49 New
        0
        But another excites me. Previously, the delivery base was Vostok. Now this plant does not exist since 2012. There were no other drop-off bases. It turns out that only in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky?
  2. mmaxx
    mmaxx 5 June 2020 17: 12 New
    -14
    Good name. Not that it is incomprehensible to anyone who knows the "great" admirals.
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 5 June 2020 18: 36 New
      +6
      Have you decided to boast about ignorance? You did it.
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 05: 21 New
        0
        Let's be calmer. Emotionless.
        Boast of knowledge. Give the names of all Soviet admiral ships on the list. Let's talk about each. There we determine the erudition.
        Names of ships with Russian admirals can not show. There are plenty to choose from.
        Although I even have an admin. Makarov raises questions. It would be nice to name some PSS or hydrograph by his name. It'll be cool. And to serve on the newest ship with the name of the admiral of the deceased due to his own incompetence ..., well, somehow strange. That's when he was a lieutenant, that's another matter. In general, the figure is bright, significant, but not for how his name is used now.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 June 2020 19: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: mmaxx
      Good name. Not that it is incomprehensible to anyone who knows the "great" admirals.

      If you do not know them, then this is only from a lack of erudition. No need to flaunt your illiteracy.
      Py.Sy. By the way, almost always, one of the VO users uploads a brief biography and the merits of the person in whose honor the ship is named. But you don’t need it. Stick your main comment.
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 05: 11 New
        0
        To have your name on board for peacetime service, something very important needs to be done. Here is the "Nikolai Chiker." This name. I understand everything with him. But this, green trees, sea tug. And the whole bunch of BOD with the names of conspicuous admirals .... Isn't it too much? Ship of the first rank ...
      2. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 05: 12 New
        0
        And further. Who are you talking about? Also to stick a comment?
    3. Grits
      Grits 6 June 2020 00: 59 New
      0
      Quote: mmaxx
      Good name. Not that it is incomprehensible to anyone who knows the "great" admirals.

      If a simple sailor was awarded the great title to be inscribed on board the ship, along with the great admirals, knowing his feat was serious. Read at your leisure.
      1. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 05: 06 New
        0
        Which of the Soviet admirals became "great"? Let's go through the list? We will not touch the Russians. In my opinion, the names that can be written on board are Kuznetsov and Gorshkov.
        And all sorts of Tributs, Oktyabrsky, Fokins and all sorts of others (I won’t get into directories), I'm sorry here.
      2. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 05: 27 New
        0
        Yes. And everything is clear to me about Tsydenzhapov. On the contrary, I believe that he is worthy of more than many admirals. He fulfilled his sailor duty.
        And according to the admirals: to whom much has been given, much will be asked. And here the questions begin.
      3. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 09: 56 New
        0
        And there are no complaints to the name of Tsydenzhapov in my comment. Learn to read. Minusators. I would say it more correctly. Banyat.
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    1. FIR FIR
      FIR FIR 5 June 2020 17: 19 New
      +1
      Which next? This project has been living and developing for 20 years.
      1. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 21: 34 New
        0
        Quote: FIR FIR
        Which next? This project is 20 years old and lives develops.
        Well, the trouble is more that it just DOES NOT DEVELOP, but really, -
        Quote: Demagogue
        2/3 of the cost of Gorshkov this boat.
        over roads, as for a corvette (!), and a citizen who noticed that -
        Quote: Starshina
        Five years old corvette build is complete ....
        in my opinion, absolutely right (!).
        Another big question is whether the MF RLC "Barrier" will allow to realize the Reduta missile system, at full range (?!)but 12 cells (!), ammunition about anything !!. Initially, it was necessary to enter not 12 Reduta cells (and the sea of ​​electronics that made the project prohibitively expensive), but better 24 Calm-1 cells, and it would probably be cheaper.
        Quote: Demagogue
        Just rive them fast
        sorry Andrey, but far from fast (!), and here, -
        Quote: Demagogue
        but the price is clearly overpriced.
        I can no longer disagree with you hi
  4. Doccor18
    Doccor18 5 June 2020 17: 13 New
    15
    Good news. Seven feet under the keel of the corvette. And the eternal memory of the real Hero Aldar Tsydenzhapov.
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      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 5 June 2020 17: 53 New
        10
        Quote: Bravo
        Bravo good news about seven feet under the keel

        Excuse me at all in yourself? fool
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 5 June 2020 19: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: Sky Strike fighter
          Quote: Bravo
          Bravo good news about seven feet under the keel

          Excuse me at all in yourself? fool

          This is a nearby troll. Specially brings here present to the polemic with him. Well, such perverted masochists like it when it is watered with slops. What he achieves with his typy inserts. Judge for yourself, can a MENTALLY normal person, spread such crap? Sick person.
  5. Demagogue
    Demagogue 5 June 2020 17: 23 New
    -8
    2/3 of the cost of Gorshkov this boat. They just rivet them quickly, but the price is clearly overpriced.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 5 June 2020 17: 40 New
      +8
      The fleet is generally the most expensive type of force. It is always expensive to build. Again, the seaworthiness of project 22380 is not bad. In addition, 22350 will not be built much, but a fleet is needed.
      Corvettes of project 20380, if in a simple way, then small patrol ships - the project of multipurpose ships of the 3rd rank of the near sea zone. Their purpose:

      Actions in the near sea zone of the state, combat against surface ships and submarines of the enemy;
      Artillery support for amphibious assault during naval amphibious operations by launching missile and artillery attacks on ships and ships at sea and bases;
      Patrolling the area of ​​responsibility for the blockade.

      Due to the fact that the first ships of the project did not leave the Baltic Sea for a long time, rumors began to circulate about the lack of seaworthiness of these ships. But after the summer change of command of the Baltic Fleet, it turned out that long-range expeditions to these ships were possible. And the corvettes proved it by their campaigns outside the Danish Straits - the Boyky and the Clever corvettes successfully completed a three-month cruise along the North Atlantic, the Mediterranean Sea and the Indian Ocean.

      https://www.korabel.ru/news/comments/vse_o_korvetah_proekta_20380_i_ih_modifikaciyah.html
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      2. Demagogue
        Demagogue 5 June 2020 17: 55 New
        -4
        Not tired of copy-paste then))
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 5 June 2020 17: 59 New
          +4
          So they don’t say later that I came up with something. And then there’s a lot of those who constantly need to prove something. They ask for a reference to confirm the information, so you have to copy it ahead of schedule.
        2. ApJlekuHo
          ApJlekuHo 6 June 2020 04: 40 New
          0
          To be honest, I’m tired of these mediocrity, generally read on VO, because until recently there was somehow a normal resource, and here they were shit, homosexuals from God ..
      3. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 5 June 2020 22: 47 New
        0
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        In addition, 22350 will not be built much

        sorry, but explain
    2. FIR FIR
      FIR FIR 5 June 2020 17: 41 New
      +7
      This "boat" with a displacement of more than 2.000 tons. With a permanent base in the hangar of a heavy multi-purpose helicopter. With stationary air defense systems and long-range missiles. As for the price, the hull costs no more than 12% of the cost of a modern ship, the rest is “stuffing" ...
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 5 June 2020 17: 48 New
        +8
        Quote: FIR FIR
        This "boat" with a displacement of more than 2.000 tons. With a permanent base in the hangar of a heavy multi-purpose helicopter. With stationary air defense systems and long-range missiles. As for the price, the hull costs no more than 12% of the cost of a modern ship, the rest is “stuffing" ...

        In fairness, I must say that the Kyrgyz Republic Caliber is available only on 20385. Project 20385 - modernization 20380. The ammunition of the Redut anti-aircraft missile system has been increased from 12 to 16 cells. Anti-ship missiles X-35 "Uranus" replaced by 8 Caliber-NK missiles.
      2. Demagogue
        Demagogue 5 June 2020 18: 00 New
        -4
        "Long-range air defense system" there bullshit with Doppler radar against afar on the pot. Gus minotaur against vignette is also earth and sky. There are no displacements for the normal operation of the helicopter. And so everything is great.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 5 June 2020 19: 23 New
          +3
          "Long-range air defense system" there bullshit with Doppler radar against afar on the pot.


          There is a new multifunctional radar barrier.

          New radar stations with three stationary canvases in the form of an experiment will be installed on two project 20380 corvettes - Aldar Tsydenzhapov and Rezky.


          On old ship radars, the radar picture is interrupted due to the fact that the transmit-receive unit rotates. The new technology is much more efficient - it enables military radar operators to receive an accurate and continuous picture on the station’s screens. Thanks to such abilities, the radar allows you to confidently and at a much greater distance to detect and identify low-flying and small-sized targets. New radars will also be “farther” than their predecessors.

          Such features of the stations will allow air defense systems to confidently fight cruise missiles, which fly most of the way to the target at low altitude. The detection efficiency of small drones that are often lost among radar “noise” —the interference caused by the atmosphere or the enemy — will also increase.

          https://iz.ru/903506/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/bit-pervym-novye-korvety-poluchat-unikalnye-radary
          1. Demagogue
            Demagogue 6 June 2020 16: 37 New
            0
            There Pfar Furke stands. If 60x technology is new to you ... With it, Shell in Libya has already excelled.
            But Barrier went not far from there. Afar, which 1m2 epr detects 75 km, is something. Stealth with 20380 only Ols
            will see in general.
        2. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 6 June 2020 00: 00 New
          -1
          Quote: Demagogue
          "Long-range air defense system" there bullshit with Doppler radar against afar on the pot. Gus minotaur against vignette is also earth and sky. There are no displacements for the normal operation of the helicopter. And so everything is great.
          agree (!).
          In general, in order to bring military shipbuilding to a new level, it is perhaps necessary to do three things at first.
          1) - to intensify work with Zvezda-Reductor, for the more rhythmic release of gearboxes PO55P !!, in order to be able to increase the series 22350.1, and the speed of construction of these frigates.
          2) - Kolomna highlight his curator (Beria. L.P., preferably) smile to activate, control the targeted use of funds, and as quickly as possible launch into mass production the promising 16SD-500 (!). After which, creating from it a “quadruple power plant” (by analogy with DDA-12000), equip its main new escort TFR (a cross between the Thunder project 12441 (according to its VI, about 3000 tons), etc. 11664 (on the design and layout of weapons systems) ...
          3) - Remove from the "Shrewd" power plant, send to the "Kronstad plant" or "Metalist-Samara" (making on the basis of one of these enterprises) - center for offshore gas turbine engine building and gear assembly !!. There, disassemble the power plant (including gearboxes) to the cogs, and learn how to create a similar power plant !!!. This will be, firstly, the experience of creating its own gas turbine power plant in 72000 hp. (!). Secondly, there is an opinion that it is easier to create gearboxes for identical (pairs of engines among themselves) than for different types of turbines (or diesel engines), because they initially give the same rotation speed (!). (this is also important for paragraph 2)..).
          Thus, after 2-3-4 years, USC may have a real opportunity to release immediately (parallel) three types of power plants, for warships of the main classes (!), of various VIs: let's say a quad diesel of 16SD-500, for ships of the order of 3000 tons, the second "Gorshkovskaya" for fr. 22350.1, and the third for EM in 6500-7500 tons. (!). So for example, Chinese EM 052D? drags (diesel-gas-turbine) power plants in 65000 hp, not 72000 (!).
          Such is the opinion ...
          1. Local from the Volga
            Local from the Volga 6 June 2020 01: 26 New
            +1
            Samara metalhead, what are you talking about! there they couldn’t even make a center of competence for cameras! He is dead!
      3. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 5 June 2020 22: 49 New
        0
        Quote: FIR FIR
        With stationary air defense systems and long-range missiles

        laughing why are you posting stupidity?
      4. mmaxx
        mmaxx 6 June 2020 14: 24 New
        0
        For me, this is how ours finally realized that the need for a helicopter on such ships is very good. And it costs a lot.
    3. avg
      avg 5 June 2020 17: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: Demagogue
      2/3 of the cost of Gorshkov this boat. They just rivet them quickly, but the price is clearly overpriced.

      One-room apartment is also about 2/3 of the three-room apartment, because there is a complete set of infrastructure.
    4. Arthur 85
      Arthur 85 5 June 2020 19: 52 New
      +1
      Um. Well, one must think that two “Aurora” were worth as one “Suvorov” (I give an example from the Republic of Ingushetia, because you have a White Guard on the avatar). Does this mean that the Aurora is not needed, and the fleet should consist exclusively of EDB?
      1. bayard
        bayard 5 June 2020 20: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: Arthur 85
        Well, one must think two Aurora

        Sorry, but a very bad example. request This type of cruiser was disabled from birth and its combat value has always tended to zero (except in October 1917. smile ) Now, if you had mentioned Bogatyr, Askold, or at worst Novik, then of course yes.
        And from the actual news itself, it is already encouraging that this ship was built only 5 years. It means that the Amur Shipyard comes to life, goes to the pace (until it comes out - such ships can be built in 3 - 3,5 years). Give him God and MO order for the expected ANOTHER 10 such corvettes.
        1. Bashkirkhan
          Bashkirkhan 5 June 2020 21: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: bayard
          Give him God and MO order for the expected ANOTHER 10 such corvettes

          Gd will give, it can work out with a contract for a series of project 20380 corvettes. Pacific Fleet needs them very much.
        2. Arthur 85
          Arthur 85 5 June 2020 22: 10 New
          +3
          Yes, of course, I am for any replenishment for the Fleet: from aircraft carriers to watchdogs, it was just that Aurora first came to mind (and by the way, survived under Tsushima, which is already a fact in the biography). Bogatyr, this is an armored cruiser, two of these will cost more than the Suvorov. I don’t remember about Askold what he was.
          God forbid, of course, but, given that the Dreadnought was built a year ... In general, there is much to strive for.
          1. bayard
            bayard 5 June 2020 23: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Arthur 85
            Bogatyr, this is an armored cruiser, two of these will cost more than the Suvorov.

            "Suvorov" fully loaded cost at least 15 million rubles. , "Bogatyr" was conditionally armored - armament at the level of "Varyag" and the same Askold - 12 x 6 "guns. It cost about 6 million rubles. But the speed is 24,3 knots, and Askold generally 24,5 - 24, 75 knots.
            Novik, on the other hand, was worth some 2 million rubles.
            And all this with excellent German quality (all three cruisers were built in Germany), in contrast to the problematic boiler Varyag and the Bayan that did not have the speed.
            And the time of construction of the "dreadnought" does not include the time of its construction (and it went) before the official bookmark (several months), and the indicated time is the time of construction BEFORE launching. Completion afloat and fine-tuning to the time of delivery took a significantly longer time than building on a slipway to the descent.
            But the pace of construction at that time was really impressive. We only reached such a construction speed (on a slipway) by 1905, and even then for a production ship - the Glory (the last of the Borodino type) was built quite at our own pace ... but was late for the war.
            1. Arthur 85
              Arthur 85 6 June 2020 06: 30 New
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              So he was wrong. But still, I think, Nissin + Kassuga were more expensive than Mikasa. I just wanted to say that small ships are also needed.
              I read about Dreadnought. There also the towers were “unscrewed” from some armadillo. That is, they used the backlog for its construction. But all the same, in those days these ships baked like pies.
              1. bayard
                bayard 6 June 2020 07: 22 New
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                Quote: Arthur 85
                But still, I think, Nissin + Kassuga were more expensive than Mikasa.

                I think about the same. The displacement of the Mikasa is 15 tons, and the cruiser of the Garribaldi type - 000 tons each. And at that time, the price of the ship was calculated on the basis of VI. In addition, the sale of these cruisers could be at a discount - because the main customer refused them. And in terms of speed, they lagged significantly behind the technical specifications, having a project speed of 7 knots; in reality, they did not give out more than 500 - 20 knots. Therefore, they gave them to the detachment of armadillos, for they could not keep squadron speed in the Kamimura detachment.
      2. Demagogue
        Demagogue 6 June 2020 09: 55 New
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        What ebras are there? Ebro in modern conditions is at least udk / light aircraft carrier. Battleship.
        Pots frigate. In many fleets, all that are below the frigate are just watchtowers / mine loaders / hunters for pl.
        Corvette guard should be cheap. Karakurt with a minotaur is cheap, but it's a miracle with ancient electronics, it's complete garbage. Invest in obsolete technology, crank up a missile system that is not particularly needed for this boat. I drank the usual one.
        1. Arthur 85
          Arthur 85 6 June 2020 10: 06 New
          +1
          But in the United States or Brazil, some do not saw? Is it really so? Or remember RI, Alexey Alexandrovich did not saw?
          1. Demagogue
            Demagogue 6 June 2020 10: 10 New
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            We discussed a specific ship, not the lynching of blacks in America.
            This particular pointless drank.

            In RI sawed of course, sawed everywhere. But at the same time, the first ranks were built, not the destroyers. Since the time of RI, we have not built a single full-fledged battleship, neither battleships, nor aircraft carriers. Maximum cruisers and light aircraft carriers.
            1. Arthur 85
              Arthur 85 6 June 2020 10: 51 New
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              Well, why, and the Eagles with the Glories?
              1. Demagogue
                Demagogue 6 June 2020 11: 46 New
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                Eagles to put it mildly on a battleship do not pull. Even before WWII, they were dead by tonnage in comparison with new battleships. Less Sevastopol, which was built in the Republic of Ingushetia before the PMV. Glory is very small.

                According to their capabilities, the Eagles in the era of aviation supremacy at sea also never pulled. Aircraft is the main means of warfare at sea, everything else is just an auxiliary function. The maximum role of the auxiliary ship in the warrant. Ulyanovsk was closest to the battleship. But it was not built. It finally came to the USSR that there were enough senseless piles of scrap metal to rivet, but it was already in the spring and the Christmas tree could be brought back to the forest.
                1. Arthur 85
                  Arthur 85 6 June 2020 13: 28 New
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                  As they say, I want to find fault, and not what. True, if the USSR had completed the satellite control system, then the Granites could be regarded as a swarm of disposable UAVs, and the Eagles would become quasi-aircraft carriers, but ... If so.
                  1. Demagogue
                    Demagogue 6 June 2020 14: 37 New
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                    The USSR lost everything in the late 70s, when the Americans broke away electronically. And now everything depends on her darling only. Gorshkov in this regard is our only achievement. Modern frigate. Not without flaws, but the Gorshkovs only need to be built. And the corvettes are cheap with minotaurs, a lot. It is possible without a sight, it is not needed there. And we are building an incomprehensible zoo. It would be cheaper to invest heavily in the production of engines than to build meaningless barges with calibers for which there is no tsu. Ideal Corvette Swedish Visby. Subtle, with water cannons, with excellent gus. Cheap. But cheap is not profitable to build. So the brains are powdered by the authorities and the layman with the number of caliber and missile launchers installed on the corvette. And why is it all there, no one analyzes. The main force on the sea is airplanes, but the fleet does not have them. Neither drills from afar, nor helicopters and planes are modern, nor stealth drummers. And everything is fine.
  6. Starshina
    Starshina 5 June 2020 20: 05 New
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    Five years old corvette build is complete ....
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 5 June 2020 20: 58 New
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      Will you build faster ?! Drawings in your hands! .. hi
      1. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 5 June 2020 23: 29 New
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        Quote: Benzorez
        Will you build faster ?! Drawings in your hands !.
        my respect, uv. Vitaly, but in the USSR, the BOD 1155 (with a much larger VI, and at that time modern weapon systems) was still built ?! Fact, don't you find ?! yes
        1. bayard
          bayard 6 June 2020 07: 28 New
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          hi Greetings to Vladimir.
          And yet 5 years, this is already progress in comparison with previous dates, especially for the Amur Shipyard. If there is an order for another 10 such corvettes, then you look, and will be released for 3 - 3,5 years.
          I’m scared to guess at a higher pace - I wouldn’t jinx it.
        2. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 6 June 2020 18: 58 New
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          "Fact, don't you find ?!"
          Of course I find. I even found those times a little.
          Do you understand what business? This is difficult to explain, here you have to "cook" in this kitchen. During the construction of the ship, any team (simple working shipbuildings) is categorically interested in the maximum speed of its construction. After all, this is a salary!
          But! I returned after seventeen years of break in this industry. And what do I see?!. Systemically / not systemically, but it is not possible to disperse labor collectives on the ground. Constant disruptions in the supply of everything. From metal to tool. Constant "messing" in the drawings. People did the work, then the changes came! Now cut it out and do it all over again. The team has a question - who will pay for it? ...
          Oh ... I can talk for hours across the depths of our depths ....
  7. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 5 June 2020 20: 55 New
    +3
    Interesting photo. I see this for the first time.
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 5 June 2020 21: 35 New
      +3
      Here is another photo of Aldar Tsydenzhapov from a quadrocopter.

      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 5 June 2020 21: 53 New
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        In general, you can watch the video.
  8. Aleksandr123
    Aleksandr123 5 June 2020 21: 10 New
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    "NATO considers project 20380 too large for corvettes, and defines them as frigates."
    Yeah, the adversaries were scared. And our frigates will seem to them cruisers!
    1. Eskobar
      Eskobar 5 June 2020 23: 16 New
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      Are you scared? Are you seriously? Or are you from cheering patriots? Rather, to knock out money to "repel the growing Russian threat"
  9. Orca
    Orca 9 June 2020 07: 02 New
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    Quote: Gritsa
    on the bank of Zeya, you still have to disassemble for a further transportation so a few tens of kilometers. - on the ground.

    Hmm ... you have to definitely do something. There are 3 bridges in Blagoveshchensk: 2 automobile - through the Amur to China, and through Zeya directly from Blagoveshchensk to the left bank of the river and one railway bridge through Zeya just above Blagoveshchensk. The channel of the Amur River above Khabarovsk, and Zeya above Blagoveshchensk, has such sharp turns and turns that such a load of barges can be lifted at least to the town of Svobodny, from which it still needs to be delivered to Vostochny, to which there are still several tens of kilometers from Svobodny ., only over large water. But then other questions come up to their full height - will there be a barge under bridges in the Blagoveshchensk area during a possible seasonal flood, and will there be this very flood that provides the necessary water level, or rather, the required river depth, to guide this barge. And by the way, somewhere on the bank of Zeya, it’s hardly possible to disassemble the platform for its further transportation by land, except in the Amur backwater in Blagoveshchensk, or in Svobodny - only there it is possible to fit a more or less suitable technique to the river.
    Threat. I live here, in the Far East, and therefore I know some of its subtleties and fatnesses. wink